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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 052
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 52
Sunday, October 1st 1989
Today's Topics:
Mj Revelations
Mj Revelations
Re: Bill Moore as 'Savior' of the UFOlogical Community
Re: And what of Socorro?
Re: Mj Revelations
Re: Bill Moore As 'savior' Of The Ufological Community
Re: Mj Revelations
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From: paranet!f303.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bill.English
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:24:34 MDT 1989
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>From: Bill.English@f303.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill English)
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Subject: Mj Revelations
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It was announced last night by Bill Knell of Long Island Skywatch, that all of
Bill Moore's papers concerning MJ were fraudulent. Knell and his investigative
team have cracked the SETI/MJ riddle once and for all. Knell states that they
were finally able to access material that shows that SETI/MJ is "not" and
never has been a groups of 12 scientist, but rather a very specialized
communications system designed to monitor the activity of UFO investigators
and supposed contactees. I will have more information from knell within the
next few days, and upload any documentation I receive from Knell for the
general populace to look at and analise.
I would point out that if this is indeed the case, even though Whitley
Streiber's book is billed as a fiction, he did in fact pay Moore $5,000.00 for
the priviledge of looking through his files. Which in this case means the book
"majestic" really is a fiction based on fiction fracated by Moore".
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:24:59 MDT 1989
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>From: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
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Subject: Mj Revelations
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> It was announced last night by Bill Knell of Long Island
> Skywatch, that all of Bill Moore's papers concerning MJ
> were fraudulent. Knell and his investigative team have
Thanks for the info, Bill. Keep us posted on this.
Mike
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From: paranet!f20.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:25:09 MDT 1989
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>From: Jim.Speiser@f20.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: Bill Moore as 'Savior' of the UFOlogical Community
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Date: 30 Sep 89 16:46:00 GMT
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-> => In regard to Moores assertion that he was doing in Paul B.
-> =>at the behest of Uncle Sam -- Why do you claim the real
-> =>culprit is Uncle Sam, not Moore?
-> =>what evidence
-> =>is there that anything that either of them say or do is
-> =>"for real"?
Jim, while its not absolute, concrete proof, I think its SAFE to say at
this point that there is some kind of "coverment" involvement, due to the
fact that, A) Doty was an agent of OSI, B) Doty was known to be involved
in passing hoax documents in the past, C) the document hoaxing was known to
Doty's superiors (confirmed by Deputy Kirtland Commander Col. Edwards) D)
Doty went largely unpunished, as far as we can tell - no notes in his
discharge file, no courts martial, as would be required in a case of
deliberate forgery of govt. docs by an AF staff sgt. Also, its not just
Doty. Jenny Randles recently revealed to me that SHE was approached with
the MJ-12 documents by an Air Force OFFICER in England, around the time
that Tim Good received them. (Doty was an enlisted man). As she found the
man and the whole situation to be squirrelly, she chose not to accept them.
One only needs to meet Jenny Randles to be assured she would not make
somethting like this up. She is a VERY credible researcher. So either Moore
has a very large circle of friends in the military who are for some reason
willing to go along with some ridiculous charade, or....you get the
picture.
Jim
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From: paranet!f20.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:25:15 MDT 1989
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>From: Jim.Speiser@f20.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
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Subject: Re: And what of Socorro?
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-> =>This may seem stupid to some people, but a lot of mysteries
NOT stupid in the LEAST, Robert. This is what its all about. Although I'm
fairly confident you will at least be able to verify such mundane
particulars as the thunderstorm, much of Moore's and Friedman's work needs
to be checked out, if only to confirm that a mystery indeed exists. I think
its fairly well established that an object DID crash (there are newspaper
accounts, even one that says it was a flying saucer!), but it would be nice
to get some old-timer on the record, perhaps one that Moore has missed.
Jim
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From: paranet!f20.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:25:20 MDT 1989
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>From: Jim.Speiser@f20.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
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Subject: Re: Mj Revelations
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-> =>though Whitley Streiber's book is billed as a fiction, he
-> =>did in fact pay Moore $5,000.00 for the priviledge of
Bill, is this fairly public knowledge? Are you certain of the amount? Are
there no percentages of the royalties involved?
I was beginning to give heed to Barry Greenwood's surmise that MAJESTIC was
Moore's way of "secretly" hitting paydirt with MJ-12, but $5000 is NOT a
lot of money when you consider he has 9 years of his life into this
project.
As to the rest of Knell's info, we await the documentation.
Thanks,
Jim
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:25:27 MDT 1989
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>From: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: Bill Moore As 'savior' Of The Ufological Community
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> that Tim Good received them. (Doty was an enlisted man). As
> she found the
> man and the whole situation to be squirrelly, she chose not
> to accept them.
Jim,
I am curious as to what is taking place. It would seem that the
'spooks' are literally coming out of the woodwork around the UFO
community. What are your theories about the purpose of why they do what they
do? Example, Linda Howe and the Doty business?
Mike
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Date: Sun Oct 1 13:25:33 MDT 1989
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>From: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
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Subject: Re: Mj Revelations
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> I was beginning to give heed to Barry Greenwood's surmise
> that MAJESTIC was
> Moore's way of "secretly" hitting paydirt with MJ-12, but
> $5000 is NOT a
> lot of money when you consider he has 9 years of his life
> into this
> project.
Could there be royalties as well?
Hmmmm..........
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