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Info-ParaNet Letters Volume 1 Issue 5
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Flying Saucers-Top Secret
Gulf Breeze photos
Flying Saucers-Top Secret
Gulf Breeze
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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Flying Saucers-Top Secret
I have been reading a book by Major Donald Keyhoe titled 'Flying
Saucers - Top Secret'. This book was copyrighted (C) 1960 by
Donald Keyhoe. As you may know, Maj. Keyhoe was the Director of
NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon)
back in the late 50's and 60's. I ran across a very interesting
chapter, Chapter 16, which deals with the Navy investigation of a
map which was discovered which caused them a great deal of
concern. I am reprinting part of that chapter here for
information. I am also interested in knowing if anyone might
have further information on this map for discussion.
Major Keyhoe is in a meeting with Captain John Brent and
Commander Larsen. Captain Brent was one of Major Keyhoe's
classmates at the Naval Academy. Keyhoe has arranged the meeting
to ask about reports that there had been UFOs 'observing rocket
launchings at Cape Canaveral. And another report, from a missile
technician at a different base, said they'd had to hold up
launchings several times because of UFO interference.' During
the discussion, the story comes out about the map....
"Why do you think UFOs are watching us?" I asked.
"They may be afraid we'll cause trouble out in space," said
Larsen. "And they'd have reason to worry, if they were dealing
with Soviet space fleets."
"Have you ever thought," Captain Brent asked me quietly,
"that the earth might be a colony started by another world?"
I looked at him, startled. "I've heard it suggested,
but--do you actually believe it?"
"I'm certain of this much," replied Brent. "A race far
more technically advanced than we are today was on earth
thousands of years ago."
He swung around to a cabinet, took out a folder. "The
Hydrographic Office of the Navy has verified an ancient
chart--it's called the Piri Reis map--that goes back more than
5,000 years. It's so accurate only one thing could explain it--a
worldwide aerial survey."
"That's almost incredible!" I said.
"The Hydrographic Office experts couldn't believe it,
either, at first. But they no only proved the map genuine, it's
been used to correct errors in some present day maps."
Commander Larsen leaned forward. "Tell him about the
seismic soundings."
"All right." The captain turned back to me. "The Director
of Weston Observatory of Boston College is a top seismologist -
Reverend Daniel Linehan, Society of Jesuits. He's so good that
the Navy got him to help in the Antarctic, to find where there
was land under the ice. The coast lines they found were
identical with those on the Piri Reis map. So the map surveys
would have to have been made centuries ago, before the land was
buried by that deep ice.
"Father Linehan revealed this on a Georgetown University
Forum, as proof that this map is genuine. The forum transcript
also contains statements by the Hydrographic Office engineer in
charge of the evaluation of the map--Mr. M.I. Walters. Other
significant points were made by A.H. Mallery, a retired sea
captain--he's the man who persuaded the Navy to examine the Piri
Reis map, after he realized how important the old chart was."
So far, Captain Brent told me, only part of the complete
Piri Reis map had been found, a section covering the coasts of
South America, Africa and a portion of Antarctica. He showed me
a copy of the ancient chart, then read the main points of the
transcript.
Early in the sixteenth century, Admiral Piri Reis, Turkish
Navy, had acquired a map used by Columbus. Combining it with
Greek maps dating back to Alexander the Great, he compiled a
world chart in 1513.
In 1953, a Turkish naval officer sent the Piri Reis map to
the Chief Engineer of the United States Navy Hydrographic Office.
To evaluate it, the Chief Engineer asked the aid of Captain
Mallery, an authority on old maps, who had previously worked with
him. After a long study, Mallery discovered the projection
method used. Confirming this and other technical points, the
Navy cartographers came to these conclusions:
1. Columbus had a map, on his historic voyage to America,
which showed the coasts of Yucatan, Guatemala, South America to
the Straits of Magellan and a large part of the Antarctic coast.
2. The original maps went back at least 5,000 years, and
some data shown went back even farther. Part of the land areas
shown had been buried under ice for twenty centuries or more.
3. Only highly trained survey teams and cartographers
could have produced charts of such "amazing accuracy." Their
operations must have covered the entire earth.
"We don't know how they could do it so accurately without
the airplane," Captain Mallery summed it up.
Captain Brent put down the transcript.
"Mallery was right. They couldn't have done it without
some type of flying machine. And there are other indications of
a highly advanced technology thousands of years before Christ."
"But couldn't there have been an advanced earth race?" I
inquired. "Archaeologists have found evidence of other lost
civilizations."
"Yes, but no trace of factories, laboratories or fuel
plants. It would have taken a huge industry to build and
maintain such an air fleet. But spaceships from another world
wouldn't require any of that--they'd bring what they needed, just
as we intend to do in our own space explorations.
"For the first stages, our men will live aboard their
ships, after landing on the moon and Mars. This unknown space
race could have done the same thing, and from that point we've
worked out several possible developments."
Using the Piri Reis map evaluations, Captain Brent and
Larsen had assumed spaceship landings at least 10,000 years ago.
Before deciding on a colony, said Brent, the unknown explorers
undoubtedly would have tested our atmosphere, gravity and other
living conditions, to make sure their race could adjust to life
on earth.
If overpopulation on their own planet had led them to plan
a large scale migration, they would plan a civilization like
their own, as far as possible. Technically trained groups would
be brought in first, then basic equipment, just as we plan for
our own space colonies. Following this, emigrants from their own
world would be ferried to earth in huge spaceships.
"That's simple logic," said Captain Brent. "Our own
planners expect giant spaceships, for this same purpose, within a
century or two."
"Yes," I said, "but if this had happened there'd surely be
signs of advanced construction--different and better than
anything we have today."
Captain Brent agreed. "That's why we think something must
have stopped them during the early stages. Possibly it was
disaster on their own planet--accidental nuclear explosions, or
an epidemic, or interplanetary war. Even if their world
survived, the earth colony might be almost forgotten as they
rebuilt. It could be centuries before their descendants got
around to checking up."
Meantime, Captain Brent continued, descendants of the first
colony on earth would have developed on entirely different lines.
When the spaceships failed to return, the colony members would be
concerned mainly with survival. Lacking machines and other
technical equipment, they would be forced into a primitive life,
their advanced civilization but an unhappy memory. To later
generations, struggling for existence, the link with another
world would seem only a myth--if thought of at all.
"And the net result," concluded Brent, "would be the same
if the first group was deliberately abandoned here."
"Abandoned?" I said. "But why should they be?"
"To get rid of undesirables."
"That's an ugly thought."
"I don't mean criminals necessarily," replied the captain.
"Though turning a planet into a Devil's Island isn't impossible."
Commander Larsen grimaced. "Bein banished like that - most
people would prefer a death sentence."
Further....
As I went out to the parking lot, I thought of another
angle to the colony theory.
What effect would this have upon religion?
At first, it appeared to deny the Biblical story of man's
creation. But the landing of spaceships on an already inhabited
world would pose no such problem, and the space race still could
have played a vital part in our civilization.
Ten thousand years ago, spaceships could have landed with
on opposition. The primitive tribes then on earth would have
been awed, probably frightened into hiding. ....
...More and more, I realized the difficulties of preparing
the public. The most peaceful contact, even with beings like
ourselves, would have a tremendous impact, raising a hundred
questions.
Why wasn't the CIA, or whatever agency was in control,
already at work on a program of prepartion?
Perhaps they were working on preparation. Recently, Don Ecker
uploaded a file (USAFTXT.FIL) which contains the chapter removed
from USAF training manuals dealing with the subject of UFOs. In
this manual, there is discussion of possible involvement with
UFOs going back as far as 50,000 years. This material was being
widely taught to cadets in prepartion for their military careers
until publicity after the Condon Committee's recommendation to
disband Project Bluebook brought unfavorable criticism to the Air
Force for teaching this despite the findings that UFOs are not
real. The main point here is that apparently there was enough
concern and curiousity on the part of the military to study the
Piri Reis maps and conclude that they were authentic and the
other conclusions that were derived from that study to
indicate that they were sufficiently concerned about the UFO
phenomenon to connect them with the maps. Another interesting
note in this material is the conclusions that the military was
drawing out of it in regards to the ancient civilizations.
Mike
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Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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From: Jim.Torson@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Torson)
Subject: Gulf Breeze photos
Organization: FidoNet node 1:304/1 - NEXUS, Flagstaff AZ
Well, now I'm confused. Uh...er... I should say *STILL* confused.
In a July 16 message, Michael Corbin tells us that ParaNet has rated
the Gulf Breeze case a hoax based on the findings of a "private
laboratory" that "clearly show a support of some kind holding the UFO
up to be photgraphed." In a July 18 message, Jim Speiser's first reason
for rating the case a hoax is "finding of a linear structure by
independent photo laboratory." Both Corbin and Speiser go on to make
the contradictory complaint that the original photos have not been made
available for independent analysis. This raises some questions that
need to be answered:
1. What is the source of these reports of findings by an independent
lab? (Sorry, it had to be asked.)
2. What lab performed this analysis, and exactly what was done?
3. If there has been a refusal to provide the original photos, then what
photos were analyzed? First generation copies? Second? Third?
Obviously, the copying process can destroy original information and
introduce spurious artifacts. The validity of analysis of copies is
thus questionable.
About a year ago I talked with Bruce Maccabee and expressed an interest
in performing computer analysis on digitized copies of the original
photos. He said that he was planning to obtain digital images using
high quality equipment and that the data would be provided to interested
people when they became available. However, I lost interest and never
followed up on this because it quickly became obvious that most people
were more interested in making personal attacks on the investagtors
rather than in examining the evidence in the case. Some obvious
questions:
1. Is Maccabee now refusing to provide the digital image data to
independent investigators? If so, what reason does he give for
refusing?
2. If the data were provided to others, what labs were involved and
what were their conclusions?
The fake UFO photos by Wim van Utrecht (IUR May/June 1989) are certainly
interesting. However, I agree with Maccabee when he says that it would
be much more difficult to fake the stereo Gulf Breeze photos. Is there
good evidence indicating that Ed is capable of faking these?
Perhaps I should clarify that I do not necessarily accept the validity
of the Gulf Breeze case. However, before we can accept a firm conclusion
of "hoax" we will need answers to questions such as those listed above.
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Jim Torson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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INTERNET: Jim.Torson@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG
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From: Linda.Murphy@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Murphy)
Subject: Flying Saucers-Top Secret
Organization: Paranet Information Service, Denver, CO (303) 431-1343
> the old chart was."
> So far, Captain Brent told me, only part of the complete Piri Reis
> map had been found, a section covering the coasts of South America,
> Africa and a portion of Antarctica. He showed me a copy of the ancient
> chart, then read the main points of the transcript.
> Early in the sixteenth century, Admiral Piri Reis, Turkish Navy,
> had acquired a map used by Columbus. Combining it with Greek maps dating
> back to Alexander the Great, he compiled a world chart in 1513.
You never heard of the Piri Reis map before? It is in so many books, even old
books dealing with cartography... All kinds of books dealing with unusual
things.... Robert Charroux, a French writer who pondered over such things as
we are in this area, back in the 60's says they wondered why it was spirited
away to the United States (he ties it in of course, with Hyperboria, Atlantis,
and the "Motherland" --- which is commonly held in belief by many today to be
the United States)... In regards to Columbus -- some facts:
The Greek mathematician Pythagoras declared the earth round in the 6th C. BC.
Aristotle reported rumors of land west of Europe, and Erastosthenes computed
the circumference of the world amazingly accurately centureis before Christ.
The Greek geographer Strabo about 7 B.C. wrote of attempts to circumnavigate
the earth...
THor Hyerdahl claims Columbus had more than rumors, that he knew where he
would find land to the west because of letters to the Vatican from Norse
priests in Greenland settlements four centuries earlier. He also cites a
request that the King of England ordered his ships to stop plundering those
settlements. Heyerdahl had hoped [this was written in Nov. 1986] had hoped to
prove in a forthcoming study that Columbus was aware of the Greenland papers.
According to the Spanish historian Antonio de Herrera, while in Portugal
Columbus likely met Martin Behaim, who in 1492 produced his magnificent globe
[pictured in the National Geographic article] -- the oldest existing on earth
today. It is now in the German National Museum in Nurnberg. Comparing the
globe, along with actual entries in the log, it is highly probable that the
Behaim cartography was used. The author [Senior Associate Editor for National
Geographic, Joseph Judge] states that 5 years of research team effort, and
sailing according to the globe/log comparisons, assisted with computers
programmed with the information, sailed several times to what the researchers
feel to be the "True Columbus Landfall" --- with this in mind, then the Peri
Reis map is totaly out of the picture --
[National Geographic (November 1986 Vol.170, No.5) has a suppliment map and
excerpts of the actual log, and the reader can follow the entire adventure..]
Also, it is well known that the Phoenecians were well versed with the seas
and oceans, and there routes were so secret, that death was the penalty to
anyone suspected of betraying the secret (they took no chances, according to
historians --). Perhaps some of these ancient masters' charts were discovered
along the way also.... BTW --- the German globe does not show ice either... So
I spose that means in the 1400's the poles were still ice-free? (just to make a
point ---)
( 1:304/1)
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Linda Murphy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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From: Joe.Holland@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Joe Holland)
Subject: Gulf Breeze
Organization: FidoNet node 1:304/1 - NEXUS, Flagstaff AZ
My offhand impression is that Ufology has not yet learned how to
investigate something as involved as Gulf Breeze, and I do not in a
general way, tend to believe the conclusions that have been reached.
The case would be more interesting to me if something had emerged
from it that told us something about the aliens. It seems more like a
study of Ufologists. That, of course, is also interesting.
--
Joe Holland - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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