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Date: 11 Aug 89 07:04:00 GMT
From: Bryon.Smith@f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bryon Smith)
Subject: Re: Info-paranet Newsletter
Organization: FidoNet node 1:19/19 - The Rainbow Q, Fort Smith AR
> Whitley Streiber's books Communion and Transformation are
> sounding similar to your message regarding projected grays
> and voices in the night. Have you read these books?
We have Communion but I have not read it, the wife started to but didn't get
to finish it.
I mentioned that because I have contacts both in Gulf Breeze and in the
Fyffe area (who don't know each other) and I'm certain the ones in the Fyffe
area have not read these books either, but both those in G.B. and those in
Fyffe have seen either "ghosts," "apparitions," or "projections." The one
in Gulf Breeze saw what he described as faces of 4 grays, while the one in
the Fyffe area saw what she described as a "hooded figure," standing in her
house.
Either these people really have seen something, or they are loony-tunes, and
I don't think they are.
I feel there is more to these cases than first meets the eye, exactly what I
am not sure, but I consider that if these "aliens" (or whatever they are)
have abilities like this they may have affected religon on Earth for
thousands of years. They may have controled the people through religon by
inducing certain beliefs. Examp. Let's just say that the "grays" have need
of cattle for a source of food product. To ensure that they would have a
good food source somewhere on Earth they could make the people believe that
the cows are sacred so the people would protect them. Perhaps some of them
even saw a "bright light" (UFO) picking up a cow somewhere. What would the
people of an unlearned country think about seeing such a thing ? Knowing
humans as we do we know how quickly they can come to the wrong conclusions
and then fabracate something in their minds to believe about such a thing.
Perhaps "aliens" were also behind the first human sacrifices to the "gods."
If this is what has happened over the years then it was because the "aliens"
had the ability to control an ignorant people through their abilities and
"spiritual" trickery (if I might use that word). The problem now would be
that here in the US as well as many other places around the World, people
are smarter than they once were and not as likely to believe just anything.
Added to that we have so many different groups of people now that it would
be very hard to control the majority of the people just by affecting or
controling a major few. Too many people now, too many ideas... Yes I would
say that if this is what has been taking place over the years, that the
"aliens" (or whoever they are) now have their hands full and are going to
need to make some changes.
Perhaps Gulf Breeze is an experiment in testing our collective belief
system as Robert O. said at the Eureka Springs Conference this year.
Perhaps the UFO sightings in that area are a test, perhaps the "greys" are
perpetrating a hoax themselves. Perhaps the object photographed was not a
solid object but a projection perhaps from the little nemslo(sp?) object.
Perhaps some of the photos were faked to confuse the investigation.
If this little nemslo gadget is a surveillance and projection probe then
that might explain quite a lot. It might explain why people are saying they
hear voices and see faces in their houses that are ghost-like.
Fyffe, Alabama, while being similar in certain aspects is different in many
others. These people, while having certain things happen that might
frighten many people, they are not frightened but more puzzled. As yet none
of them have moved out of their homes because of this UFO. Gulf Breeze on
the other hand has produced great fear and concern by certain people causing
them to leave their homes for another place to live trying to get away from
whatever it is they have encountered. A hoax would not cause them to leave
their homes, at least if they knew it was a hoax. Someone would have
exposed something by now that would have blowen the lid off the case. I say
something very real is happening in both Gulf Breeze and in the Fyffe area.
I don't know what it is or why but it's certanly more than just seeing a
UFO.
I have doubts as to if it's the same "aliens" behind the two
situations because they are just that much different.
...Bryon
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Date: 11 Aug 89 07:29:00 GMT
From: Bryon.Smith@f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bryon Smith)
Subject: Re: UFO SIGHTING or / and ENCOUNTER.
Organization: FidoNet node 1:19/19 - The Rainbow Q, Fort Smith AR
> To all people who have seen or experienced any type UFO
> encounter.
> I am interested in your information.
> If you have seen a UFO could you please leave me a
> message with some
> details on the sighting.
Did my file on the close sighting I had ever get to you ? It's in the
ParaNet files somewhere but I forgot the name of it.
Let me know if you got it, if not I'll check my ParaNet files and try to
locate it.
I posted another account of my sighting in one of these echos, I think it
was the ET echo.
Sighting was in 1969, in Pearl, Ill. on route 100, very near midnight. It
was a very large brilliant glowing craft. Domed on top and bottom and I
would estimate it to have been about 150 ft across and about 75 ft. high.
Three other people saw it that night that I know of and one of them was with
me, the other two were in a car that came up behind us as the UFO was
leaving.
We were as close as 35 ft from it at one time, but for the most part we were
about 45-60 ft from it.
The object had been seen hundreds of times by a number of people over a
period of time. It had what I would describe as a "schedule" because it
would come down the Ill. River from the north on Mon. Thu. Fri. close to
midnight and it would stop and hover over the power lines from the power
plant on the river there, and then it would cross over Pearl, and disappear
over the Old Pearl Hill.
Another man had a close encounter with what I believe was the same object a
good year before our encounter. He said it "landed in the road in front of
him," his car died (but he had hit the breaks to keep from hitting the UFO).
He said he was unable to start the car at that moment as he had every
intention of "getting the" heck "out of there. He described the object as
being domed both top and bottom, very large, and looking like polished
aluminum, or some other shinny unpainted metal. He said it sat there
for a moment and then suddenly it took off very quickly and was gone from
sight.
Hope that helps your files.
...Bryon
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Date: 11 Aug 89 07:43:00 GMT
From: Bryon.Smith@f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bryon Smith)
Subject: Re: Corrections
Organization: FidoNet node 1:19/19 - The Rainbow Q, Fort Smith AR
> sources are illuminating the 'craft' from the outside where
> darkness should be,
While I would not say that Ed's photo are or are not a hoax (I don't have
any good ones to study), and most in this echo know that I smell something
rotten in the case. On this one point I must say that had I taken a photo of
the UFO that my friend and I had the close encouter with, and if this
(lighted outside of the UFO) were a factor in determining if the UFO was a
fake, then my photo would also have been considered a fake because the
entire UFO was "brilliant" and "lighted" and the only spot that wasn't
lighted was a dark rectangular area that was facing toward us. In fact I
would expect that the photo would have shown a large bright spot in the
middle of a black background. I'm kinda glad I didn't have a camera with me
after seeing all that has come of this type of UFO case. Perhaps there is
something that can be learned even from that.
...Bryon
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Date: 13 Aug 89 16:40:00 GMT
From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Cydonia Breakthrough
Organization: Paranet Information Service, Denver, CO (303) 431-1343
Marc:
Would you like the chance to debate Mr. Hoagland on those points
directly? It can be arranged, and I think it would be very useful. I
have already asked Dick whether there is any significance to his
prediction coming true. I'll see about getting him online here.
Jim
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Date: 13 Aug 89 16:41:00 GMT
From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Piri Reis Map
Organization: Paranet Information Service, Denver, CO (303) 431-1343
Mike:
About the Piri Reis map...have you ever seen it in comparison to an
actual map of Antarctica's coast? It seems "close" is in the eye of the
beholder. I don't see much of a match, anyway.
Jim
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Date: 13 Aug 89 20:06:00 GMT
From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Cydonia Breakthrough
Organization: Paranet Information Service, Denver, CO (303) 431-1343
Hoagland replies as follows:
Jim:
If you read our paper (MESSAG.RSH -- Lib 7), you will find we are
trying
to be a bit more ambitious.
Based on the "Cydonia Equations," Torun and I have called not only the
general polarity of the field, we have also called a fairly precise
"tilt" to the planetary spin axis of that polarity (for a geometry like
a simple kid's bar magnet -- a "dipole"): within 20 degrees. This
raises the odds to about 1 chance in 9 (180 divided by 20) AGAINST our
being right on the polarity issue alone. But we're not through yet . .
. We've also predicted the MAGNITUDE of the field -- "approximately
one
tenth Saturn's" - based again on our logical "reading" of the Cydonia
Equations, and some marvelous, previously unappreciated work that now
seems intimately related to what we've found. Realistically, the gap
between the weakest planetary field measured (Venus) and the strongest
(Jupiter) is what you should use to calculate the odds of being right
in
this case. Since that range currently is 9 orders of magnitude -- we
have a billion-to-one shot against being merely "lucky" in our
prediction of the field magnitude. Interesting odds. When you
multiply
those odds by the polarity probability (the previous "1 in 9"), the
overall odds of us pulling off what we think we're going to pull off,
are (conservatively speaking!) about ONE IN TEN BILLION.
Any takers . . .?
Remember, in its entire 30 years NASA has NEVER successfully
accomplished what we're attempting here (see Lanzerotti quote, in
RELEAS.PRS -- Lib 7).
No, Jim, science is a *process*, the construction of a set of logical
"models." We have a "model" for our predictions, which we've now
carefully layed out. Being "right" at Neptune will be a test of the
entire MODEL -- which, then, must take any thoughtful person (or
scientist) right back to Cydonia! There are over 40,000 registered
scientists in the AAAS (American Association for the Advancement of
Science), and maybe "40" in NASA's "planetary science community." The
latter don't "own" the solar system . . or any monopoly on "scientific
truth" -- at least not yet.
Dick H.
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Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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Date: 8 Aug 89 01:46:29 GMT
From: Steven.Northover@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Steven Northover)
Subject: Re: Northover
Organization: Paranet Information Service, Denver, CO (303) 431-1343
Thanks, I think,for the vote of confidence. I do not intend to disrupt
your proceedings. Nor do I plan on reporting anything you (all of you)
say to anyone.
But I do intend to actively participate in your discussions.
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