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Abduction Digest Number 58
Abduction Digest, Number 58
Thursday, April 23rd 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Ellen Crystall
Implants Are Real--Get Yours Today!
Research
Ellen Crystall
Secret Life - Questions, 2/3
I'm back once again.
Ellen Crystall
Re: Secret Life - Questions, 2/3
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Ellen Crystall
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:14:00 GMT
> Crystall speculates that aliens avoid being photographed clearly by
> surrounding their craft with shortwave radiation that interferes
> with the emulsion of photographic film.
Ahem....IMHO anyone who'd make such a statement hasn't a clue.
jbh
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From: ns-mx.uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: Implants Are Real--Get Yours Today!
Date: 18 Apr 92 00:12:37 GMT
From: James Roger Black <jrblack@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>
In an article in talk.politics.misc on Usenet News, dated 2 Apr 92,
Jim Mason (jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu), writes:
|> Chanced upon an episode of that Australian TV show 'Beyond 2000' last night
|> on TDC. I arrived at the tail end of a story about a device called
|> 'KIDSCAN'. This appears to be an adaptation of a lab-animal ID tag that
|> is regularly advertized in the weekly science journals like 'AAAS SCIENCE'
|> and 'NATURE'. What you have is a tiny glass capsule containing a passive
|> radio re-transmitter designed to be injected directly under the skin of
|> the animal. These things are very tiny - looks like maybe 0.75x2.0 mm.
|> They are designed to derive energy from an RF field and then re-transmit
|> at another frequency. The transmission contains a multi-digit ID code that
|> allows each animal to be positively identified.
|>
|> KIDSCAN is the same principal ... but is being sold as something you have
|> implanted into your children - for their health and safety according to
|> the seller. These versions appear to be a little larger and can transmit
|> for a several block radius.
So there you have it: tracking-implant technology for the masses. If
this kind of stuff is being advertised in science magazines, just
imagine what the black-budget folks must have come up with by now.
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Roger Black roger-black@uiowa.edu
Disclaimer: My employer doesn't even know I have any opinions.
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Research
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:50:00 GMT
In a previous message Roger Black asked an interesting point re the
ability of someone who uses either spectacles or contact lenses, to
see during an abduction. This issue raised itself with me during an
interview with an Australian woman who was experiencing "apparitions".
During the interview she wore spectacles and commented that without
them she was not able to see clearly at other than short distances.
However, awakening during the night, to observe an "apparition" in her
bedroom she noted that she could observe every detail extremely
clearly. This clarity was not consistent with her normal vision. In
abduction research does anyone know the answer to Roger's question? If
not, it is a point worth checking next time you interview an abductee.
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Ellen Crystall
Date: 18 Apr 92 18:49:00 GMT
In a message to Sheldon Wernikoff <16 Apr 92 14:14> John Hicks wrote:
>> Crystall speculates that aliens avoid being photographed clearly by
>> surrounding their craft with shortwave radiation that interferes
>> with the emulsion of photographic film.
JH> Ahem....IMHO anyone who'd make such a statement hasn't a clue.
A localized time shift could shift light from a UFO into IR or UV, or even make
it invisible. But if that's what they're up to, they probably aren't doing it
to waste folks' FotoMat dollars... :-)
Best,
Clark
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From: John.Powell@p5.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell)
Subject: Secret Life - Questions, 2/3
Date: 18 Apr 92 22:38:58 GMT
In a message to John Powell <12 Apr 92 16:13> Linda Bird wrote:
LB> Hi John,
How are ya Linda!? Things sure have been strange around here lately. If I
didn't know better I'd swear that it was my turn to be under the microscope...
LB> ...one of your questions, "While switched off, don't people get cramped
LB> or need to go to the bathroom?"
(Seems I really bombarded him... His book answered a number of questions I've
had for awhile but it also crystalized a number of other questions that I've
been ruminating on...) The question above is representative of the general
'Switched Off' aspect of the phenomenon that concerns me.
LB> About a year ago when Jim Speiser was investigating Lydia, she
LB> mentioned that she needed to use the bathroom, and thinking to herself
LB> (so she thought), she thought, "I have to go to pottie..." At
LB> this point, the Alien to who she was talking, looked surprised
LB> and concerned, and hit some kind of lever at the end of the
LB> examination table. The next thing Lydia knew, she was back in
LB> her bedroom in bed with a need to use the bathroom.
Interesting. I gather Lydia was a child... Why did you say "(so she thought)" ,
are there indications that this was a generated response/action as some sort of
test?
I think I've read a few accounts where the switched off people were also
monitired by "guards", (I think this is mentioned in Fowler's work?), but it
doesn't seem to be SOP. Which seems _very_ inconsistent with the other secrecy
aspects of the Abduction Scenario. I would think that leaving a group of
switched off people unattended would be incredibly risky...
LB> Perhaps Jim has something further to add.
I hope so...
Thanks, take care.
John.
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From: John.Powell@p5.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell)
Subject: I'm back once again.
Date: 19 Apr 92 19:28:39 GMT
In a message to All Users <14 Apr 92 23:46> David Jacobs wrote:
DJ> I just want to assure my friends and colleagues that I will try
DJ> to get to most of their questions soon (although there was a
DJ> three-pager that I am not sure I will be able to handle).
Sorry about the 3-pager. I thought I'd just get everything out all at once
while it was fresh... Please don't feel that you need to personally, or even
point by point, answer. I'm sure the bulk of items will come up for
discussion here over time anyway.
Thanks, take care.
John.
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Ellen Crystall
Date: 22 Apr 92 08:12:00 GMT
John Hicks writes:
> > Crystall speculates that aliens avoid being photographed clearly by
> > surrounding their craft with shortwave radiation that interferes
> > with the emulsion of photographic film.
>
> Ahem....IMHO anyone who'd make such a statement hasn't a
> clue.
>
> jbh
In her book, Ellen Crystall indicates that her definition of
"shortwave radiation" includes X-rays and gamma rays. She
believes that use of a camera with a plastic lens instead of a
glass lens can help overcome this problem. Does this make sense
from the photographic standpoint?
I've finally seen a copy of her book although I haven't had time
to read it yet. It's too bad that the pictures are printed in
black and white. I've seen them in color and they look a little
more impressive, particularly the photograph which is reprinted
in the book (I believe) as photo #13. As far as the photos that
are said to depict aliens go ... I think that a person who was
not a witness to the actual event would almost have to be
tripping in order to see the aliens in the pictures. I think Bob
Girard hit this book awfully hard because so much of what was
discussed was based more on *belief* than detached observation.
This is the problem when a book is written by a percipient rather
than an investigator with no first-hand witnessing experience.
Although Ellen emphasizes that she has never been abducted, she
does claim a good bit of experience with CE I's thru III's with
"humanoid sightings". Compare the balls of light that she
referrs to as "Tesla fields" to the balls of light in the Russian
photographs which appear in Jaques Vallee's new (too tiny for
$18) book on Russian ufology. They might be something more than
artifacts of the photographic process. Whaddaya think?
-- John
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Secret Life - Questions, 2/3
Date: 23 Apr 92 03:44:00 GMT
Hi John,
Under the microscope instead of the weather, huh? Hehehe
Well, Lydia said she was having a mental conversation with the aliens,
that suddenly she could "hear" their thoughts in her head, and she
answered back with a thought. But when she was thinking to HERSELF,
"Gee, I have to go to pottie..." she thought this was a private thought
that the aliens wouldn't be able to pick up on. Sort of like pressing
the "mute" button on a remote control TV gadget. Instead, the alien
DID pick up on the thought! He got her out of there, perhaps afraid
she would make a mess.
I remember reading the account of the South American youth, somebody
Boas, I think, who was plowing in his field when he was abducted by
Aliens. He was there for the purpose of being seduced by an exotic
female alien, but before she appeared, some odd-smelling gas was
emitted into his compartment on the craft. He said that it made him
sick, and he vomitted in a corner. So, perhaps aliens are tired of
cleaning up after human messes.
Lydia was an adult when this experience occurred.
Take care!
Linda Bird
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