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Abduction Digest Number 31
Abduction Digest, Number 31
Thursday, October 31st 1991
Today's Topics:
Re: abductions
abductions
Re: abductions
Re: abductions
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: abductions
Date: 23 Oct 91 05:37:00 GMT
In a message to Doug Rogers <10-20-91 01:01> Sue Widemark wrote:
SW> >false on the face as you have done cannot go unchallenged.
SW> .
SW> It has been observed by psychologists that people who have a
SW> religious orientation tend to deal with disability and age better
SW> than those who don't. Also, Bill W., the founder of AA makes a
SW> rather impressive case that atheistic beliefs caused alot of his
SW> problems. People who join AA and embrace the Deistic orientation
SW> tend to deal with their lives better than they did before joining.
But, of course! They are so well hypnotized. The same can be said of people
on Thorazine! AA gives STRUCTURE, as does religion. Nothing really wrong
with that, particularly since the average IQ is 100 (a tautology, I know!
:-) All you got to do is joing this neat family of people who will listen to
you, nurture you, and understand your terrible problems with reality.
Besides, if you believe it's a disease, then it really isn't your
responsibility anyway. Only problem is when these folks demand everyone else
pop these Thorazine pills, too. Frankly, I';d ratehr be kidnapped by a grey.
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From: Clark.Matthews@p1.f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: abductions
Date: 25 Oct 91 23:12:00 GMT
MS> But, of course! They are so well hypnotized. The same can be said
MS> of people on Thorazine! AA gives STRUCTURE, as does religion.
Sure, along with the military, prison, and the Fortune 100.
MS> Nothing really wrong with that, particularly since the average IQ
MS> is 100 (a tautology, I know! :-) All you got to do is joing this
MS> neat family of people who will listen to you, nurture you, and
MS> understand your terrible problems with reality. Besides, if you
MS> believe it's a disease, then it really isn't your responsibility
MS> anyway. Only problem is when these folks demand everyone else pop
MS> these Thorazine pills, too. Frankly, I';d ratehr be kidnapped by a grey.
Does this have anything to do with abductions or abduction research?
If alcoholism, drug dependency, deism, and/or diminished responsibility have a
high profile in abduction reports/regressions, I'd love to see some evidence.
If not, I hope we can leave the railing about pill-pushing to the
Scientologists.
Best,
Clark
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: abductions
Date: 27 Oct 91 22:56:00 GMT
In a message to Michael Schuyler <10-25-91 16:12> Clark Matthews wrote:
CM> a grey.
CM> Does this have anything to do with abductions or abduction research?
CM>
CM> If alcoholism, drug dependency, deism, and/or diminished
CM> responsibility have a high profile in abduction reports/regressions,
CM> I'd love to see some evidence.
CM>
CM> If not, I hope we can leave the railing about pill-pushing to the
CM> Scientologists.
Clark,
To get a full sense of my post you might want to page back and see what it
is a response to, then you might go a little easier on me. I suppose this
has as much to do with abduction research as my dealings with the NIS have
to do with UFO research, which you have asked me to elaborate on.
Cheers,
--Michael
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From: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Rogers)
Subject: Re: abductions
Date: 26 Oct 91 02:26:18 GMT
> .
> I didn't feel your message was attacking at all. I have
> expressed the fact that what I posted was my impression
> from the books I had read. I am interested in reading the
> 'other side' and would be interested in your presenting
> some evidence to refute what I have stated.
>
What you have stated are your unsubstantiated opinions. How am I to refute
them? Your response still lacks specific evidence. I would suggest that any
"evidence" based on an unprovable "belief system" is going to be called suspect
by any scientifically based researcher, myself included.
It is not my place to "refute" a charge which has had no evidence presented.
Your citation to the AA founder is an interesting account of another single
person's experiences. It does NOT show basis in fact.
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