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Abduction Digest Number 53
Abduction Digest, Number 53
Wednesday, March 25th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Secret Life and FPP
Abduction Detection
Abductions & _Secret Life_
Abduction Detection
Abduction Detection
Drs & Cattle Mutilations
Abduction Detection
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Secret Life and FPP
Date: 13 Mar 92 03:39:00 GMT
I just got _Secret Life_. While I haven't had a chance to read it in detail,
I have skimmed it. I think people are going to be referring to it for quite
some time.
In Chapter 11, "Answers," you say WRT fantasy-prone personalities (FPPs), "Of
course, some people do spin fantasy-abduction tales. But their idiosyncratic
stories do not match the accounts given by other abductees. They have not
usually undergone competent hypnosis. They act more like a combination of
channelers annd contactees seeking publicity and perhaps money and yet still
not fabricating a conscious hoax." This is apparently geared towards
dismissing FPPs as a viable explanation for abduction reports.
In the article "UFO Abductees and Contactees: Psychopathology or Fantasy
Proneness?" (_Professional Psychology: Research and Practice_, 22(3): 215-222,
1991), Keith Basterfield (who I think posts here on occasion), et al, link a
high proportion of abductee and contactee reports to FPP. Admittedly, they
examined only case histories (as I understand it) and not the subjects
themselves, but doesn't this tend to contradict the statements you made in
_Secret Life_?
DISCLAIMER: I have no training in psychology. I'm just asking a question
about what appears to *this* layman as some mutually-exclusive conclusions.
--- Anson
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Abduction Detection
Date: 12 Mar 92 06:21:00 GMT
> My question is, has any attempt been made to set up a "perimeter
> defense" utilizing this technology, around an individual who claims
> to suffer from frequent abduction episodes?
Also, many modern cameras have a "trap focus" mode, in which you focus on the
desired distance, and if something moves to that spot and is detected as being
in focus, the camera fires. Note that this function is completely passive.
Might be worth a try too.
jbh
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Abductions & _Secret Life_
Date: 14 Mar 92 03:21:01 GMT
David,
I have noticed in appendix B on page 327-328 of your book _Secret
Life_, you list 39 abductees whose statements appear in your book.
I have also observed that of the 39 individuals listed, 22 are
female and 17 are male, or a ratio of female to male of
approximately 1.3:1. I realize this is a small cross section to
work with, but do you feel this apparent sexual correlation will
continue to hold true? If so, have you any clues as to why 56.4% of
your sample set is female and 43.6% is male?
I am also interested in the geographical origins of the individuals
on this list. Were these predominantly east coast cases, or was it
a more geographically heterogeneous mix?
Besides their perceptible predilection for female subjects, the
aliens also seem to be partial to rather "zoftig" women. Have you
noticed a higher than anticipated number of moderately to grossly
over-weight women in your sample set? If so, were they over-weight
prior to their experiences, or were their body mass expansions
consequent to the abduction event? One abductee I have worked with
feels that her "overweightness" is a kind of safety mechanism to
protect her from future abductions. Conversely, I know you
mentioned in your book that the aliens became quite concerned for
an abductee that was exhibiting symptoms anorexia. They told her
she should eat more.
BTW, Dr. Michele Lecher, the clinical psychologist from Oregon I
mentioned to you a few weeks back, is currently finishing your
book, and I hope to schedule a conference call at a time mutually
convenient for all in the near future.
Regards,
Sheldon
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Abduction Detection
Date: 15 Mar 92 04:57:01 GMT
In a message to Sheldon Wernikoff <11-March-92 23:21>
John Hicks wrote:
JH> Also, many modern cameras have a "trap focus" mode, in which
JH> you focus on the desired distance, and if something moves to
JH> that spot and is detected as being in focus, the camera fires.
JH> Note that this function is completely passive. Might be worth
JH> a try too.
I agree John. Perhaps the more low-tech the detection device is,
the better the chances for success in catching an alien in the act.
As David Jacobs related in _Secret Life_, the aliens seemed quite
flustered by an abductee's plastic dental retainer plate, yet are
capable of manipulating our minds almost effortlessly.
Trap focus sounds intriguing, but I would imagine the "trap focus"
mode found in photographic equipment utilizes infra-red to detect
an object that has moved into focus, so this too is not entirely
passive.
David mentioned that video-taping a prospective abductee's bedroom
proved useful in forestalling, but not eliminating the abduction
experience. Eventually, the aliens simply ordered the victim to get
out of bed and turn off the camera, allowing the abduction to
proceed on schedule - and undetected.
Perhaps we need something *really* low-tech... like a large wooden
crate, propped up by a dowel rod attached to the abductee's ankle
with a piece of monofilament fishing line... with a strawberry ice
cream cone as bait. The only problem is how to keep the ice cream
from melting. <g>
Take care,
Sheldon
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Abduction Detection
Date: 16 Mar 92 05:44:00 GMT
> Trap focus sounds intriguing, but I would imagine the "trap focus"
> mode found in photographic equipment utilizes infra-red to detect
> an object that has moved into focus, so this too is not entirely
> passive.
No, in fact they are entirely passive. The AF system found in SLR cameras
"looks" for highest image contrast; it's presumed that an in-focus image shows
higher contrast than an out-of-focus image, and it works. These things can
focus on a race car coming straight at you In the trap-focus mode, the camera
shoots when image contrast is sufficiently high to be taken for an in-focus
image. You're partly right; most of the small AF point'n'shoot cameras use an
IR rangefinder.
> Eventually, the aliens simply ordered the victim to get
> out of bed and turn off the camera, allowing the abduction to
> proceed on schedule - and undetected.
Yes, that's interesting. Maybe a camera could be somehow installed in a
sealed box in some way that the victim couldn't move the box. But then, I
believe David Jacobs mentioned that some victims are made to go into another
room.....
> Perhaps we need something *really* low-tech... like a large wooden
> crate, propped up by a dowel rod attached to the abductee's ankle
Sounds like the best idea yet! ;-)
> The only problem is how to keep the ice cream from melting. <g>
We could concentrate on Canadian and Alaskan abductees...... ;-)
jbh
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Drs & Cattle Mutilations
Date: 16 Mar 92 13:47:00 GMT
>Also, (not related - but to save bandwidth), when you talk to Linda
>Howe, I'm interested in corresponding with M.D.s other than John
>Altshuler who have examined cattle mutilation wounds. Could you
>please ask her for any names and contact information she might possess?
Hello Sheldon,
I saw your message (part of which is above) and wondered if
you would be interested in talking to the specialist I interviewed
for OMNI when I wrote about Linda Howe and Dr. John Altschuler's
conclusions (re her then-new book, _An Alien Harvest_.) I talked to
several veterinary specialists for that article, and all said the #1
expert in the field for this type of forensic pathology would be Dr.
John King at Cornell. Linda was kind enough to send Dr. King a copy
of her book (which, as you may know, reproduces the slides of animal
tissue and offers close-up, clear photos of the "cookie cutter"
wounds), and, when that intrigued him to the point he asked to see
the actual slides himself, she and Dr. Altshuler also shared that
material with him. Dr. King is a delightfully candid person who
speaks clearly and understandably, for layman or professional. If
you would like to have a contact number for him, let me know.
By the way, are you also on Compuserve?
==Peggy==
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From: John.Powell@p5.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell)
Subject: Abduction Detection
Date: 18 Mar 92 09:18:21 GMT
In a message to Sheldon Wernikoff <15 Mar 92 22:44> John Hicks wrote:
>> The only problem is how to keep the ice cream from melting. <g>
JH> We could concentrate on Canadian and Alaskan abductees...... ;-)
Alright you guys, (hyuck, hyuck, hyuck...). What's the big deal about a
photograph? Nobody, _nobody_, would believe it anyway. We already have a
dozen or so fully studied photos that have led to exactly nowhere...
I just started Jacob's book so this might sound completely stupid but why
hasn't anybody used a personal telemetry device that _cannot be detached_???
These devices are cheap and common, already in use by numerous local and state
jurisdictions to monitor work-release prisoners and parolees, and I don't
care _what_ orders are given to the potential abductee these devices
are _not_ coming off without a serious bit of work...??? I can't be the first
person to come up with this idea...
Regarding abductees being ordered by their abductors to turn off the camera, I
assume that _this_ (the abductee waking/rising and then turning off the camera)
is also on videotape? Has anyone seen this?
Thanks, take care.
John.
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