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AIList Digest           Thursday, 22 Oct 1987     Volume 5 : Issue 240 

Today's Topics:
Queries - Neuromorphic Systems Sources & Cash Flow and Expert Systems &
LISP on the AMIGA & Explanations in XPS,
Bindings - Net Mail to the UK,
Reviews - Introductory Books on Lisp,
Humor - Another Numbered Joke Joke

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Date: Tue 20 Oct 87 21:07:39-EDT
From: John C. Akbari <AKBARI@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject: neuro sources

anyone have the source code for either of the following?

kosko, bart. constructing an associative memory. _byte_ sept. 1987

jones, w.p. & hoskins, j. back-propagation. _byte_ oct. 1987.

any help would be appreciated.

John C. Akbari

PaperNet 380 Riverside Drive, No. 7D
New York, New York 10025 USA
SoundNet 212.662.2476 (EST)
ARPANET & Internet akbari@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU
BITnet akbari%CS.COLUMBIA.EDU@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
UUCP columbia!cs.columbia.edu!akbari

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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 87 20:09:29 GMT
From: A385%EMDUCM11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: Literature on Cash-flow & Expert Systems

Date: 19 October 1987, 20:07:13 GMT
From: Javier Lopez Torres Tf: (91) 7113887 A385 at EMDUCM11
C/ Mirlo 1. 28024 Madrid -Spain-
To: AILIST-R at SRI

Hello AI Community from Spain!!!
We have just begun to developpe an expert system for cash-flow in Common-Lisp,
but we'd like first to acquire some theoretical background on this subject.
So please, could anyone of you suggest any good text about expert systems and
cash-flow??.
Thank you very much in advance for any help or suggestion.
Yours
Javier Lopez
UNiversidad Complutense de Madrid <a385%EMDUCM11.Bitnet>

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Date: 21 Oct 87 13:30:44 GMT
From: oliveb!amiga!cbmvax!phillip@ames.arpa (Phillip Lindsay GUEST)
Subject: LISP on the AMIGA.

[Eat|Me]
I would like to hear from people working on anything related to LISP and/or
AI on the Amiga. This is important since I am trying to solicit a port of
a LISP product. Any general interest also welcome. (the more bullets the better)

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Date: 22 Oct 87 01:06:41 GMT
From: spieker@uklirb.UUCP
Subject: Explanations in XPS - (nf)
Article-I.D.: uklirb.40000002

Hi,

can anybody outthere send me an (extended) bibliography on the subjects of

- Explanation Generation in Expert Systems
- User Modelling

Thanks

Peter Spieker

Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Fachbereich Informatik
P.O.Box 3049
D-6750 Kaiserslautern
FRG

UUCP: ...mcvax!unido!uklirb!spieker

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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 87 00:30:58 EDT
From: brant@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Brant Cheikes)
Subject: net mail to the UK

If you happen to know the Usenet name of a host in the UK, then as a
temporary solution, you can use "ukhost!ukuserid@uunet.uu.net". The
ARPAnet host uunet.uu.net is an (official?) arpa/usenet gateway and
knows how to route mail to all known uucp hosts, including those in
the UK. I, for example, have been corresponding with my advisor,
Bonnie Webber, who's on sabbatical at Edinburgh, by addressing mail to
"eusip!bonnie@uunet.uu.net". Unfortunately, I think this only works
for Unix hosts on usenet. Mail to people at ucl-cs can be sent to
"ucl-cs!user@uunet.uu.net". Hope that helps.

Brant


Brant Cheikes University of Pennsylvania
ARPA: brant@linc.cis.upenn.edu Computer and Information Science

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Date: 19 Oct 87 11:56 PDT
From: hayes.pa@Xerox.COM
Subject: email to UK


Some news about UK email. The UCL gateway has recently introduced a
policy ( see official notice reproduced below ) which polices traffic
through the gateway to an alarming extent. I have talked ( well,
listened ) to some moderately senior UK administrators about this and
have been told that this is being forced on them by the US military, but
you know what politicians are. Anyway, the effect has been to have
hackers of unknown competence start fiddling with a working system,
with predictable results. There seems to be considerable confusion:
the UCL locals ( email to liaison@cs.ucl.ac.uk ) insist that mail into
the UK should go through regardless of source and that only outgoing
mail will be policed, but the official bulletin says otherwise.
In the interim there is even more confusion here: The new `correct'
address, say the UCL hackers, is nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk, but the host tables
as of a couple of weeks ago had it as synonymous with the old
cs.ucl.ac.uk. ( and, by the way, with UCL-CS ) . The UCL people were
horrified when I told them of this so maybe things have changed ( cf
KILs reply to Yorick ), but for a while the following hack, suggested by
Doug Faunt at Schlumberger, worked just fine: mail to

whoever%nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk

This apparently made the ucl machine forward to itself and then believe
the nss prefix. I am testing this again now but dont have results yet.
The NS2 having a different socket number is very encouraging, I bet this
is the missing NSS with a typo: I am testing this as well.

Pat Hayes

PS. Let me suggest that all users of netmail to the UK send their
comments on the following to whoever they think might be inclined to
listen, such as a senator or M.P.

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From: liaison@NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK
Subject: Authorisation Information
Sender: daemon@NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK
To: Witty.pa

TO UNAUTHORISED USERS OF THE UCL GATEWAY SERVICE PROJECT:

Access control has been introduced to the UCL ARPA/Janet
Gateway, so that only authorised users of the Service may
send traffic through the Gateway. This is because of
restrictions imposed on the Service by its funding bodies.

If you wish to exchange mail with users on the other side of
the Gateway, an application must be made to gain authorisation.
It is most appropriate for the UK user to apply. Mail is
authorised by either sender or receiver, so that a US user
is able to send mail to an authorised UK mailbox. If you are a
US user, please contact your UK colleague by some other means,
to explain what is now happening - he/she may be unaware of
these developments.

This applies to all the Internet networks reached from UCL via
Arpanet (including Usenet mail to or from US hosts that is routed via
UCL), and to PSS in the UK.

The actual authorisation mechanism depends on the registration
of mailboxes belonging to the applicant - the program necessary
to do this is available when and if authorisation is given.

One application is made per project group, in the name of
the principal investigator of the project. The mailboxes of all
the members of the group can then be registered as being
associated with the authorised user.

________________________________________________________________

Further information can be obtained from auto-mailboxes.

1.
For an application form (for UK users) and Introductory document to
the Gateway Service send a message to the auto-mailbox:
application-form@ucl-cs

2.
Some JANET sites have a contact who is willing to assist with
mail registration problems. A list can be obtained from the
auto-mailbox:
local-help@ucl-cs

3.
A general bulletin board for users of the UCL Gateway can be
obtained similarly from the auto-mailbox:
netnews@ucl-cs.

4.
The 'mreg' program allows authorised users to register mailboxes
for which they are responsible. A guide to using the 'mreg' program
can be obtained from the auto-malbox:
mreg-help@ucl-cs


No text should be included with messages to auto-mailboxes.

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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 87 08:58:36 EDT
From: rapaport@cs.Buffalo.EDU (William J. Rapaport)
Subject: lisp books

An excellent self-study book on Lisp is:

Shapiro, Stuart C., LISP: An Interactive Approach (Computer Science Press)
It's dialect-independent, and assumes that the reader is sitting in front
of a terminal running Lisp while reading the book.

William J. Rapaport
Assistant Professor

Dept. of Computer Science, SUNY Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14260

(716) 636-3193, 3181

uucp: ..!{ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!rapaport
internet: rapaport@cs.buffalo.edu
[if that fails, try: rapaport%cs.buffalo.edu@relay.cs.net
or: rapaport@buffalo.csnet ]
bitnet: rapaport@sunybcs.bitnet

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Date: 19 Oct 87 10:54:01 edt
From: Walter Hamscher <hamscher@ht.ai.mit.edu>
Subject: Introductory books on Lisp

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 87 11:03:46 PDT
From: glasgow@marlin.nosc.mil (Michael G. Glasgow)


I am new to AIList and AI programming and want to learn Lisp.
I have been looking through Steele's book, Common Lisp", and
have discovered that this is more of a reference manual than a
beginners guide. What I am wondering is if anyone can give me
the names of some good introductory Lisp books to get me started.

There are several. Here are two:

Winston, Horn, "
LISP". Addison-Wesley (1984 I think). Teaches
you common lisp from the atoms on up.

Charniak, Riesbeck, McDermott "
Artificial Intelligence
Programming" Lawrence Erlbaum (1980). What every AI programmer
should know, though unfortunately the lisp dialect is getting a
bit dated.

Two others I know of but have never had the opportunity to use:

Wilensky, "
Common LISPcraft". Norton, 1984.

Brooks, "
Programming in Common Lisp." MIT Press, 1985.

You will undoubtedly hear from the partisans of other books.

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Date: 20 Oct 87 02:55:25 GMT
From: voder!apple!andyr@decwrl.dec.com (Andy Rundquist)
Subject: Re: Introductory books on Lisp


In article <8710161803.AA06962@marlin.nosc.mil>, glasgow@MARLIN.NOSC.MIL
(Michael G. Glasgow) writes:
>
>
> I am new to AIList and AI programming and want to learn Lisp.
> I have been looking through Steele's book, Common Lisp"
, and
> have discovered that this is more of a reference manual than a
> beginners guide. What I am wondering is if anyone can give me
> the names of some good introductory Lisp books to get me started.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> michael


To me, the best (and most enjoyable) Lisp introduction can be found in:

_The Little Lisper_ by D. Freidman.


Andy

(Now CONS a piece of cake into your mouth)

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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 87 11:27:25 PDT
From: Stephen Smoliar <smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu>
Subject: Re: Introductory books on Lisp

Back in the dark ages when I was teaching LISP, I used to rely heavily on
THE LITTLE LISPER by Daniel Friedman. I felt that the important thing about
learning LISP was getting comfortable with expressing yourself in a functional
style and using the format of recursive definitions. Friedman does an
excellent job of walking you through a broad variety of examples. You
emerge from this book with a good sense of the power of a "pure" applicative
style of LISP programming. Having done so, you are now ready for the "real
world"
provided by the particular dialect of LISP you will actually be using.

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Date: 20 Oct 87 12:45:48 GMT
From: kddlab!secisl.seclab.junet!tau@uunet.UU.NET ("Yatchan" TAUCHI)
Subject: Re: Introductory books on Lisp


In article <8710161803.AA06962@marlin.nosc.mil>, glasgow@MARLIN.NOSC.MIL
(Michael G. Glasgow) writes:
> I have been looking through Steele's book, Common Lisp", and
> have discovered that this is more of a reference manual than a
> beginners guide.
It's not a good text book to Lisp beginners, but just specification of COMMON-
LISP.

> What I am wondering is if anyone can give me
> the names of some good introductory Lisp books to get me started.

I think there are not many good books on CommonLisp yet. I recommend
"
Common LISPcraft" by Robert Wilensky, Norton $26.95. His book, "LISPcraft"
was very good text book on FranzLisp. I think it's easy to understand how to
write CommonLisp program.

----
Yasuyuki TAUCHI, SECOM IS-Lab, Tokyo JAPAN
NET: tau%seclab.junet@uunet.UU.NET
UUCP: ...!seismo!kddlab!titcca!secisl!tau

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Date: Mon 19 Oct 1987 08:47 CDT
From: UUCJEFF%ECNCDC.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: >Everybody here's read it. Now when somebody wants to tell
a joke, th

>just call out its serial number."
And he showed me the logical joke
>catalog.

>I thumbed through it for a while. Found a joke I liked. And at an
>opportune time, I called it out: "G-120-97B!"
>Nobody laughed.


G-120-97B Thats an IBM manual right?

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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 87 11:14:16 BST
From: Graham Higgins <gray%ghiggins.lb.hp.co.uk@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Two Logician Jokes

That's a shame. Why does there have to be a concrete catalogue? It prohibits a
variation which is arguably funnier ... can I change it around bit ?? ....


I was hanging out at the Logicians Union Hall the other day and the place
was full of logicians, poring over logician's manuals and exchanging
gossip. Well, every so often, one of them would call out a number, and all
of the others would laugh real hard. Then they'd all go back to whatever
they were doing.

This seemed real odd behavior for such logical people. So I asked Robert,
who's a logician friend of mine there, what was going on.

"Hey, this is a hall for logicians," he said. "A while back, we collected
all of the jokes that we could prove were funny and allocated each one a
number. Everybody here knows them. Now when somebody wants to tell a joke,
they just call out its number."


I thought about this for a while. Then I asked Robert if I could tell a joke,
you know, try out the system. He said it would be OK by him, so I called out a
number: "1209!"

Nobody laughed.

I turned to Robert and said "So how come they didn't laugh?"

He shrugged. "You didn't tell it right."

I asked for another try. Once more, Robert said it would be OK by him. I called
out a different number: "83417!".

Everybody collapsed in fits of mirth.

I turned to Robert, feeling pleased. "Told _that_ one OK, didn't I?", I said.

Robert was nearly helpless with laughter. He gasped, in between guffaws,
"Haven't heard that one before".

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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 87 11:22:42 PDT
From: Stephen Smoliar <smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu>
Subject: Another numbered joke joke.

[Same first three paragraphs.]

One of the logicians called out: "G-120-97D!"

Suddenly, one logician had a fit of uncontrollable laughter; and it took
some time before he calmed down.

I turned to Robert and asked, "What happened?"

He replied, "Probably that logician had never heard that joke before."


Post Script: I originally heard these jokes in the context of Hollywood
producers exchanging jokes at lunch (even before I moved out to the shadow
of Hollywood).

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