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IRList Digest Volume 3 Number 40
IRList Digest Saturday, 14 November 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 40
Today's Topics:
Email - Address of IRList from MIL/ARPAnet
- Missing issues and MIT nodes and problems with Listserv headers
- Turn off faucet on multiple copies!
- Faucet must be wiscvm
Query - IRList coverage of cognitive psychology [plus my editorial - Ed]
- Info. on hypertext project of Robin Cover
- Info. on Hyppertext '87
Discussion - Hypertext: SIGCUE, citations, query on suffix-stripping
- Hypercard discussion on USENET
- Hypertext applications and (small) 800Mb project
Seminar - Hypertext and Hypercard
News addresses are
Internet or CSNET: fox@vtcs1.cs.vt.edu
BITNET: fox@vtcs1.bitnet
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Date: 2 Nov 87 14:47 PST
From: William Daul / McAir / McDonnell-Douglas Corp <WBD.MDC@OFFICE-1.ARPA>
Subject: path to send to IRList submitter
There was a mail item from the following contributor to the IRList Digest:
From: Donald Case <IIN8PXB@UCLAMVS>
How can I address him from my world on the MIL/ARPnet? Thanks, --Bi//
[Note: Bill, thanks for sending on the message. Donald Case, whose
BITNET address is shown above, and who I believe is receiving IRList
that way, can use the address shown at the top of this and other
digests to send in news from MIL/ARPAnet. That is:
Internet or CSNET: fox@vtcs1.cs.vt.edu
Now, if there is any problem,
fox%vtcs1.cs.vt.edu@relay.cs.net
should certainly get here. We expect that "vt" will have full domain
support within the next month, but I am sure that csnet-relay can get
mail to us now if mail is sent through them. - Ed]
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Date: 2 Nov 1987 07:27 EST (Mon)
From: Wayne McGuire <Wayne%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Missing Issues
Ed,
I don't think issue 36 reached me here at MIT-OZ. Could you send me a
copy? I am especially interested in the topic of literature
browsers and hypertext.
[Note: I hope #36 made it through! - Ed]
Are you having trouble in general reaching MIT-OZ with IRLIST? The
"To" field in the most recent digest is slightly peculiar:
IRList Digest Sunday, 1 November 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 37
Today's Topics:
Reply - Personal filing systems (offer to help)
Query - Software to assist scholars of ancient texts
- Relational DB toolkits with source code
- Network re social systems science
- How types of knowledge are classified (esp. in organizations)
- Neural networks and IR
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 87 17:25 EST
Reply-To: IRList Digest <IRLIST-L%VTVM2.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sender: IRList Digest <IRLIST-L%VTVM2.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
From: "Edward A. Fox" <FOX%VTCS1.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Subject: IRList Digest V3 #37
To: "(no name)" <ingria%mit-oz@mc.lcs.mit.edu>,
"(no name)" <jcma@mc.lcs.mit.edu>,
"(no name)" <jeremy%mit-oz@mc.lcs.mit.edu>,
"(no name)" <mdcg.wayne%mit-oz@mc.lcs.mit.edu>,
"(no name)" <sun@mc.lcs.mit.edu>
[Note: First, note hypertext discussion below. Second, yes, there has
been trouble with some mail to MIT. They keep retiring machines and
changing names -- I think the sun@mc... address was routed to a
machine that is defunct. Finally, I should say that the BITNET
Listserv handlers seem to send out mail in batches to people with
somewhat similar addresses, and that you should not be surprised by
that. But I hope people who get mail to "no name" will tell me their names
so we can be more personalized in our service. - Ed]
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 87 10:05:04 PST
From: utt%closet.DEC@decwrl.dec.com (Mary Utt)
Subject: RE: IRList Digest V3 #37
I have been receiving issues 37, 38, 39 repeatedly over the last 24 hours,
to the tune of (I estimate) 25 copies of each! Is this happening to
other people? Have you any idea where the problem lies (your end or
mine)? Can you turn the faucet off?
Thanks.
Mary Utt
DIGITAL
[Note: see next msg from person on this end who has been most helpful
with handling mail problems etc. for IRList - Ed]
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From: VTCS1::JARRELLRA "Ronald A. Jarrell" 12-NOV-1987 12:31
Subj: RE: Ron - help! Can you find out the problem with Listserv and fix it?
It's not listserv. Wiscvm must be believing that they aren't delivering and
trying again. But in each case her system is actually delivering them to
her.
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 87 20:14:46 EST
From: nutto@UMass (Andy Steinberg)
Subject: IRList coverage
I saw that you run an information retrieval list. I have a question,
are each of the topics seperate digests or are all the topics incorporated
in the same list? The particular one I am interested in is cognitive
psychology. Thank you.
nutto%umass.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu
nutto%umass.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu
[Note: As long as it relates in some way to information retrieval,
that is fine. I recently had a msg from someone asking to be removed
from the list because they felt it was not focussed enough. I hope
that does not bother others - I try to include things that relate to
my view of what IR is all about. I personally have a wide variety of
interests that I believe do relate, and hope that IR will become more
widely taught and receive more support from industrial and
governmental agencies. It strikes me as odd that ACM SIGIR actually
lost members last year, at a time when interest in information
retrieval and related issues (e.g., hypertext, hypermedia, CDROM,
etc.) is rapidly growing. Perhaps more people should join SIGIR and
that organization can thereby change and adapt to address a broader
community - witness SIGGRAPH! - Ed]
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 87 18:16:55 EST
From: "James H. Coombs" <JAZBO@BROWNVM>
Subject: Hypertext
To: ZRCC1001@SMUVM1
You mentioned that you are supervising a Hypertext project. Can you give
us a description of the project? Thanks. --Jim
Dr. James H. Coombs
Adjunct Lecturer in English
Software Engineer, Research, IRIS (as of December)
Brown University
Acknowledge-To: <JAZBO@BROWNVM>
[Note: this refers to the message in V3 #37 where Robin C. Cover
mentions in his PS that he is working on a hypertext project. Robin,
can you tell us more? - Ed]
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 87 09:20:43 EST
From: Len Simutis <SIMUTIS@MIAMIU>
Subject: Hyppertext '87
In a recent issue of IRList you made passing reference to Hypertext '87.
Do you know whom I could contact for more details about its wherabouts
and whenabouts?
[Note: It is going on now, Nov. 13-15, at Univ. of NC, Chapel Hill.
Contacts are:
John B. Smith, Dept. of Comp. Sci., (919) 962-5021, jbs@unc.csnet
Frank Halasz, MCC, (512) 338-3648, halasz@mcc.csnet
By the way, this was announced several times earlier and I did reply
immediately to Len in case you wonder why I am sending out this news
now. I have asked several people to: send in a personal report to
IRList on the conference, tell me how we can obtain copies of the
proceedings, and give a fuller report for next SIGIR Forum. - Ed]
By the way--I'm a former Tech person. I was there from 71-84 in the
College of Architecture and Urban Studies. Sorry to see all the really
bad publicity that's come out of late about Tech. It's a great school
and I hope long-term that you can put all this stuff behind you.
[Note: Thanks for the good word about Viginia Tech (VPI&SU). I think the
athletics situation is getting straightened out. We are finishing up
a university wide self-study, and so I think the faculty input from
that will help the university make it through the transition of
getting a new Provost and President. I think there are exciting
opportunities for growth here in the future. - Ed]
Best wishes
Len Simutis, Dean
The Graduate School and Research
Miami University, Oxford, Ohio 45056
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 87 18:22:51 EST
From: "James H. Coombs" <JAZBO@BROWNVM>
Subject: Hypertext
Since hypertext was mentioned several times in the latest issue of IR-LIST, we
should make sure that everyone knows about the recent SIGCUE Outlook special
issue on Information Retrieval (vol. 19, no. 3/4, Spring/Summer 1987). This
issue contains an article on an hypertext educational project: "Creating
Hypermedia Materials for English Literature Students," Yankelovich, Landow,
and Cody. Landow will also be presenting a paper on "Relationally Encoded
Links and the Rhetoric of Hypertext" at Hypertext 87. (Apologies to any
of my Brown/IRIS colleagues who are also presenting papers; only Prof.
Landow has given me a copy so far.)
Hypertext is not my specialty. Hopefully, you will all soon see my article on
"Markup Systems and the Future of Scholarly Text Processing" in the November
CACM (with Allen H. Renear and Steven J. DeRose). At the end of this semester,
however, I put down my chalk to join our Institute for Research in Information
and Scholarship, where I will be working with a hypermedia system: Intermedia.
(A hypertext system supports non-sequential writings; a hypermedia system
supports non-sequential organization of information in a variety of media:
text, graphics, video, etc.)
Oh, my first project will be an on-line dictionary for Intermedia. If anyone
has pointers to suffix-stripping algorithms, please send them along.
Thanks. --Jim
Dr. James H. Coombs
Adjunct Lecturer in English
Software Engineer, Research, IRIS (as of December)
Brown University
Acknowledge-To: <JAZBO@BROWNVM>
[Note: Jim, sounds like you have indeed been busily involved in
interesting hypermedia related projects! Thanks for the citations --
the SIGCUE special issue as a whole is interesting too. I have a
variety of algorithms for stemming used in information retrieval that
we use here, and can give you two other names, Bill Frakes at Bell
Labs in Holmdel (who did his dissertation at Syracuse on stemming in
information retrieval) and Donna Harman, at NLM Lister Hill Center,
who is now working on further testing of stemming methods. We are
also now working on building up a morphological analyzer to go along
with the Collins dictionary fact base we put together here. Can you
tell more about your project and what will be in the on-line
dictionary? - Ed
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 87 11:01:14 EST
From: mnetor!lsuc!dave@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Hypertext discussion group
> From: omepd!littlei!foobar!sdp!sdp@seismo.CSS.GOV
> Subject: Hypertext
> Is there a hypertext mailing list or discussion group anywhere on the net?
A new Usenet newsgroup called comp.sys.mac.hypercard was
created a few days ago. It's specific to the Macintosh
Hypercard program.
David Sherman
The Law Society of Upper Canada
Toronto
dave@lsuc.uucp
[Note: Dave, thanks for the news. I will be happy to continue
handling discussion on other aspects of hypertext and hypermedia, and
to also accept submissions relating to hypercard if people cannot
get onto Usenet. By the way, Info-Mac Digest also has been handling
discussion of Hypercard. - Ed]
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 87 15:46:03 mst
From: ihnp4!alberta!auvax!kevinc (Kevin Crocker Athabasca University)
Subject: Re: IRList Digest V3 #37
Dear Dr. Fox,
I have just perused the above IRL digest and find it fascinating. I am
especially interested in hypertext type applications. I noticed a
message from Scott Peterson about hypertext mailing lists on the net.
As one of the people who originally sent a message over the net asking
for info on hypertext (which Scott responded to and thus he set up a
mailing list on his machine, which alas I have been unable to access
through bounced mail) I feel very enthused and ivigorated about the
explosion of this form of info massage.
I have a small (it should only require something like an ATT 6386 with
about 800 Mb of storage) research project that I want to do but lack
the wherewithall to implement it. I would appreciate getting in
contact with those people who might offer advice etc.
This digest looks very promising.
ihnp4!alberta!auvax!kevinc (Kevin Crocker Athabasca University)
Do our employers have opinions or is that what we get paid for!
[Note: you call 800Mb small? Tell us more about your research
project! - Ed]
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From: VTCS1::FOX "Edward A. Fox" 10-NOV-1987 16:09
Subj: Hypercard
Tim Oren of Apple Computer will give a talk next Tue, 17 Nov, 10am-noon,
McB201. Actually, the talk will probably be an hour but we have the room
in case discussion results.
He will discuss Hypercard, which runs on the Mac II systems. He is
doing R&D in the area of hypertext, and has worked with file systems
and drivers on Mac's so should be able to answer a variety of questions
from those interested in the Mac's (though he has not worked much with A/UX).
Everyone is invited, and you can let students know though the room is
somewhat small. Hope to see you - Ed
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