DnA 4-13: An Interview With Aristotle of NuKE
WELCOME DnA ADDICTS to JACKEL's CORNER
This is a NEW addition to an already eXotic issue from your favorite bunch of Cyberlistic, to cool to be FUNKY, here's the REAL story, just for YOU crew.
What you will see in this new FORUM, will be the voices that are heard around the world. I will be doing my best to bring you the Real Story, from the people who made it happen. This forum is open to those whose interests touch on the weekness, as well as those who wish to protect all from evil. This Forum will also be your access to the people who make it happen. We look forward to interviews with the entire NuKE Staff, the people at Phal/Skis, Y.A. Mcafee, ect. We also hope to draw the interest of those in the A.V sector; Dr.Solly, ect. Rebutal is only fair. There will be no FLAMMING, just the FACTS.
I want to open this Forum up to questions for the above mentioned. I will pick those that best express the views that represent, on a whole, the views of the readers of DnA Mag. These will be included in the next issue of DnA, with a response, if possible. I can be reached by E-Mail at my BBS -=KGB=- (714) or on "DIGITAL DECAY (714)." If you don't have the either of the numbers, you can reach me on NuKE Net / NuKE the WoRLd; otherwise, download the latest copy of the CRYPTLTR (Crypt News Letter) I believe that #17 is the latest issue, and has the # to Digital Decay.
This Months "FEATURED WRITER" is "ARISTOTLE" of "NuKE"
Welcome ARiSToTLE; What Makes You TICK ???
- Name: Ah well!
- Alias: ARiSToTLE
- Age: 34
- Home: Newport News, Virginia
- BBS:
- BLACK AXiS VX
- (804)599.4152
- NUP: NEWLOZER
- Groups: Someone said NuKE
- Viruses Written: Have you ever seen a virus with my name in it? I didn't think so!
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Since most of the world knows about you only through the eyes of those who fear you most, how about letting us in on the Wonder Years of "Aristotle." What was your insperation that led you to become what you are today ??
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
Fear me! Whatever for? I keep hearing these rumblings from a number of tiny corners in the world and wonder how my being came to be something equated to 'EViL'. I am a political animal. There is nothing about me of which to be afraid. All of this AV/VX stuff came about as a result of a simple research study I did while in my senior year at the College of William and Mary, in Williamsburg, Virginia. ( Ok. Cheap plug!) :)
Essentially, I began looking at the computer underground as a source of information to aid me in writing a article entitled, 'H/P/V/A/C: The Costs As They Apply To The World Business Community'. This article was to either prove or disprove the general consensus of the business community, the claims that the computer underground was costing them millions. (It looks great on paper!) After a short period, I narrowed the scope of my focus to include only the Virus/Anti-Virus struggle. It turns out that the AV has more of a hand in what is going on in the undeground than you would first imagine at first glance. Everybody ranks on ol' McAffe. No matter if it's AV or VX, they all having some negative commentary to belch forth. I will be the first to admit, that in spite of what you might think, this guy is doing really well as a business. I don't really think you'll see John in any Fido echos, arguing with virus authors. Nor will he carry the burning cross of righteousness, beating the VX for what they do. In fact, if you watch how he operates, you just might learn something. In earlier days, a few mistakes in the public came back to haunt him, but I believe he has managed to disassociate himself from a lot of the tactics that the present day 'Holy-Rollin' AV guys are doing. Simply run down to a stock broker and order a prospectus on the guy. A friend of mine upload some excerpts from it and I was quite amazed...
"Need any help, John?"
Two semesters of research, two 'A's, and an absolute metric buttload of computer viruses and source codes are what I have to show for my work. So I thought, 'What now?', and the obvious smacked me between the eyes. SELL 'EM! It's the way of the American entreprenuer. At first, I wasn't sure there was a market for computer viruses, but let me tell you what! I was amazed at how many people wanted these things. This is where I started getting this 'EViL' stigma tagged to my name. The anti-virus community, the 'AV', is made up of people that don't want me telling the general public what is actually going on with all this - 'The Virus That Ate New York' hype.
Basically, it is like this; there are some people with commercially vested interests that are playing the media and legislative bodies like a orchestra. Their goal is to obtain legislation or regulation that will restrict your rights with respect to what you can and cannot have. They know full well that most 'legitimate' people will stop tinkering around and that the hardcore underground will continue even after such things are in place. This means that information will soon become a marketable commodity in this field and they want a dominant position if and when it does. If people like myself can be restricted from research, then fewer people will have access to information, thus the basic concepts of economic supply and demand will yield a greater profit for those who enjoy the fruits of approval.
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Now that 1993 is more than ´ over, what are your views on the general activity of GROUPS as we have come to know them ??
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
I see NuKE trying to legitimize their existance with a different approach to things they enjoy doing. Knowing that the AV uses things like the VCL to market their product, I have been working on getting some folks to market their product as a 'Researcher's Toolkit' and selling it under licensing agreements. I don't however advocate writing the problem and subsequently selling the cure. In addition to this, I am presently getting a FiDO echo known as 'NuKE_THEWORLD', put on the backbone. This will serve in allowing people with questions about viruses and the people behind the scene, the opportunity to get an unbiased or censored answer staight from the horses mouth. It also gives people in the underground the chance to be heard on an equal platform. Perhaps here, something can be learned from both sides of the fence.
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Was there any one thing in 1993' that generally upset you???
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
Yes! When ARCV was arrested in England for phreaking, the police rushed in and seized his computer, yet it was not his computer he used in phreaking. It was his phone. They already knew that he, (Apache Warrior), was tied into his neighbors house with a drop line, but they needed a reason to seize his machine. Once they took his computer, naturally they found viruses that he 'alledgedly' had written. To date, he has yet to be charged and they are still holding his equipment. The twist here is that Dr. Solomon is supposedly a technical advisor on this case and he is the person who is running amuck telling the world about the case. Apache Warrior is basically being tried in public via FiDO and INTERNET. This is where I get a tad bit annoyed. It was alledged by someone that *I* was a member of this ARCV group. Dr. Solomon and other are running around every chance they get re-telling this story in hopes that it becomes some type of 'general knowledge' and enough to get me taken to England to disclaim the allegation. Solomon and I have spent hours on the phone in the last 10 months, discussing this and other issues. He knows full well that I am not and have never been a member of ARCV. What he does know is that a 34 year old man with a wife a two kids, can't very well take off and go to England to defend crap like this. So, in hope of silencing my voice, he continues to chatter. THIS is what chaps my ass and the drive for me to continue exposing software developer's true light.
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Have you any words of wisdom to leave in your wake?
Of course! :) Unless you're a big, mean mother and can really defend yourself well... Think long and hard before you let the 'coolness' of the computer underground put you in a jailhouse with a bunch of guys who want to play EDNA with you. You can rest assured that some fool in jail will be thinking 'long and hard' about you...
(REMEMBER, YOU READ THIS HERE!!)
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: What is the future of NuKe.
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
Live day by day! - What is your future?
≥ƒƒƒƒ≤˛≤˛≤˛≤˛≤˛==ƒƒƒƒƒƒ, ... a shot of reality never hurt!
ARiSToTLE
Take it from someone who KNOWS !! The SHIT gets thicker the closer YOU GET to the "FIRE".
Next iSSUE; Supprise, Supprise, Supprise,,,
Till Then, -=ıÖcKäL=-
