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~ HyperCard IIGS Comes to A2Pro ~
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o TOP OF THE PAGE
>>> TOP OF THE PAGE <<<
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A2PRO GETS HYPER Yes, hyper! A2Pro has licensed HyperCard IIGS
"""""""""""""""" and it's now available for download in the A2Pro
library!
What is HyperCard IIGS? In a nutshell it's a complete hypermedia
authoring environment that allows you to combine text, graphics and sound
in a highly interactive and configurable way.
It's way cool, and it's available for only the cost of a download.
One feature of HyperCard IIGS is its scripting language, HyperTalk.
Since the normal HyperCard IIGS manuals couldn't be included with the
archives, A2 University has started a new course on HyperTalk! Taught by
Brendan Bellina, this course has already begun, but you can still get in
on the action. Be sure to check out the Campus Green column in this
issue for more on this exciting course.
For more information on where to get the HyperCard files,
look in this months Bit Bonanza column. Also, A2Pro has reorganized the
Hypermedia Programming Category in the Bulletin Board (Category 18). If
you have a question about HyperCard IIGS (or HyperStudio), that's the
place to ask!
We also have another top 10 list this month intended for some people
(you know who you are :-) who might just be a little tired of seeing
HyperCard in every other sentence. Enjoy. :-)
There's lots of other neat stuff going on in A2Pro, check it all out
in the Lamp, until next month, happy reading!
Nate Trost
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[A2PRO.GELAMP]
o A2PRO ODDS AND ENDS
o BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS
o WHAT'S NEW?
o PROGRAMMER'S TIPS
o HOT TOPICS
o MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT
>>> BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS <<<
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[*] CAT9, TOP7, MSG{98}................Applesoft BASIC help please!
[*] CAT13, TOP25, MSG{1}.............................Universal Access
[*] CAT15, TOP2, MSG{116}.............................Memory Manager
[*] CAT15, TOP15, MSG{63}................................Menu Manager
[*] CAT16, TOP2, MSG{123}..........................Programmer's Cafe
[*] CAT22, TOP26, MSG{1}..........................Hypertalk Tutor 101
[*] CAT30, TOP2, MSG{85}.........................Using the GNO Shell
[*] CAT33, TOP3, MSG{3}.................................Wishing Well
[*] CAT36, TOP10, MSG{130}................................ORCA/Pascal
>>> A2PRO ODDS AND ENDS <<<
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UPDATED BB INDEX AVAILABLE Due to the recent restructuring of several
"""""""""""""""""""""""""" parts of the A2Pro Bulletin Board, a new set
of Cat/Topic indexes have been uploaded (thanks Bill!) they are available
in the A2Pro library as:
File 3937 (ADB)
File 3938 (TXT)
(A2PRO.GELAMP [65-Nate-16], CAT1, TOP20, MSG:14/M530)
>>> WHAT'S NEW? <<<
"""""""""""""""""""
NEW VERSION OF RESLIN I've uploaded a newer version of ResLin (after the
""""""""""""""""""""" one that opens Macintosh resource forks) that
allows ResLin Extras to have a go at converting resources as ResLin
copies them across to the IIgs.
ResLin itself converts a number types itself, mainly just to
rearrange the byte order of word and longword values, but nothing really
"gutsy".
Actually, I'm hoping Lunatic could write us an icon conversion Extra,
and others could do font and sound converters.
Hoping/waiting...
Richard
(ResLin d0.44 should be out as soon as it gets cleared by you know who)
(RICHARD.B [Richard], CAT16, TOP8, MSG:21/M530)
>>> PROGRAMMER'S TIPS <<<
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APPLESOFT TROUBLESHOOTING I am using a program from the Genealogy
""""""""""""""""""""""""" Library "Tiny Tafel Generator" (3028)
on my Apple ][e with a Vulcan 20 meg HD, a RamFactor, and a TransWarp.
Suddenly, while loading my old data in, I get the message "Illegal
Quantity in 810". Line 810 reads...
TM$ = RIGHT$ (AA$(J), LEN (AA$(J)) -15)
This is a gremlin type of problem as it only happens with some of my
data files, but I can not tell any difference between them. Thinking
that my program might have become corrupted, I downloaded a whole new
copy from the library, but the same problem happens.
(D.KOPLEN [Texas Red], CAT9, TOP7, MSG:105/M530)
<<<<< An illegal quantity error in BASIC means that you've tried to do
""""" something with numbers, and BASIC can't figure out what it was. :)
> TM$ = RIGHT$ (AA$(J), LEN (AA$(J)) -15)
In this particular case, there are three possibilites:
1) J is a negative number
This is particularly unlikely because it looks like a loop to me.
2) More likely: J is too big.
Near the beginning of the program, there should be a line which
contains the command "DIM AA$(XX)", where XX is the maximum number
for which the variable AA$ is defined. If J in line 810 is larger
than XX, an error will occur.
3) Also likely: AA$ is too short.
The RIGHT$(BB$,XX) command tells BASIC that you want the rightmost
XX characters of the string BB$. In your case, the string is
AA$(J), and the number of characters is 15 less than the length of
the string (from the command LEN(AA$(J))-15). If this quantity is
negative, an error will occur.
(A2PRO.HELP [Sloanie], CAT9, TOP7, MSG:106/M530)
>>>>> Based on what Sloanie said, I have a couple suggestions for you to
""""" try. Load in a database that you know crashes the TT program.
When you get an error, do the following (this assumes that you are dumped
into BASIC, and should see a ']' prompt, which normally happens after
the error type you mentioned.):
1. Type the following and report the response here:
PRINT J
2. Type the following and report the response here:
PRINT AA$(J)
3. Type the following and report the response here:
PRINT LEN(AA$(J))
(This is in case there are leading or trailing spaces in AA$(J))
4. List out the program and find the DIM AA$(XX) statement, and list
that here as well. You will normally find it in the first few lines
of the code, but it may be in a subroutine near the end, which will
be called in the first few lines by a GOSUB XXXX. If it isn't right
in front, look for the GOSUB and go to the line it mentions and look
for the DIM statement there.
5. What might also be useful is if you list a sample record. I am sure
many of us are unfamiliar with the type of data stored in a TT file.
A single record would suffice, not the entire database. :)
The previous information, if provided, should serve to nail down the
cause of the problem, and allow some of the experts to hazard a guess at
a fix. It may be a bug in the program itself, or possibly you are trying
to enter some incompatible data in your database.
Tim 'The Joat' Tobin, Lost Classics & R C Font Clearinghouse
(A2.TIM, CAT9, TOP7, MSG:107/M530)
<<<<< More specifically, AA$(J) is too short. This seems most likely to
""""" me. When it crashes, do the tests that everyone told you to do, but
pay particular attention to the results of "PRINT AA$(J)" and "PRINT
LEN(AA$(J))". If that last one is less than 15 characters, the problem
is that the string AA$(J) is shorter than 15 characters.
Applesoft considers it an error to try to take the rightmost 15
characters of a string less than 15 characters long.
--Matt
(M.DEATHERAGE, CAT9, TOP7, MSG:108/M530)
>>>>> My vote is than AA$(J) is too short. Substitute these lines to
""""" eliminate the too short problem. Adjust the line numbers as
necessary.
1000 LE = LEN (AA$(J)) - 15
1005 IF LE < 1 THE LE = 1 : REM Or whatever number you desire
1010 TM$ = RIGHT$ (AA$(J), LE)
Hope this helps.
(B.LUMPKIN [>>Barry B<<], CAT9, TOP7, MSG:109/M530)
<<<<< Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you but I have been
""""" off the board trying to get ready for a trip. Here is what
happened when I did what you said..... (all responses were followed by a
CR and LF_
> 1. Type the following and report the response here:
PRINT J responded with 42
> 2. Type the following and report the response here:
PRINT AA$(J) responded with W
> 3. Type the following and report the response here:
PRINT LEN(AA$(J)) responded with 1
> 4. List out the program and find the DIM AA$(XX) statement, and list
> that here as well.
I have finally found the "DIM" statement in line 390 out of 4270 lines
DIM E$(150,8) DIM AA$(150): DIM N$(150):DIM R$(150)
> 5. What might also be useful is if you list a sample record.
M236 1750*1803*MCDARMENT\VA/Spotsylvania Co., VA
(D.KOPLEN [Texas Red], CAT9, TOP7, MSG:111/M530)
>>>>> Here's your problem right here:
"""""
> DIM E$(150,8) DIM AA$(150): DIM N$(150):DIM R$(150)
^
There should be a colon (:) where the ^ is pointing. The lack of
that colon is confusing Applesoft. It processes all the parameters it
needs for E$, and looks for either a comma or a colon. First thing it
finds is the colon, which is after the AA$. :)
You can DIM more than one variable in the same DIM statement by
seperating them with a comma, such as DIM E$(150,8), AA$(159), etc...
(JUST.DAVE, CAT9, TOP7, MSG:112/M530)
<<<<< I might also mention that the string AA$(J) is too short. To take
""""" the rightmost 15 characters of a string, it's gotta be at least 15
characters long. Well, in your example, AA$(J) is 1 character long. :)
This is your most serious problem, and possibly indicates corrupt
data. OTOH, the work-around which was posted a few messages ago should
suffice.
(A2PRO.HELP [Sloanie], CAT9, TOP7, MSG:113/M530)
SETTING 640 TEXT COLORS How do you set the background text color to a 640
""""""""""""""""""""""" mode dithered color?
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, CAT15, TOP4, MSG:113/M530)
<<<<< Set bit 2 in the Font Flags word: SetFontFlags (4) and then
""""" set the background color to a dithered value. :)
That is, use SetBackColor($EEEE) or something. (See page 16-226 in
TBR II)
(A2PRO.HELP [Sloanie], CAT15, TOP4, MSG:114/M530)
EXTENDED CONTROLS? How does one determine if a control is extended? I
"""""""""""""""""" haven't seen it documented, but it seems to be
indicated by the hi bit of the ctlProc.
(JAY.KRELL, CAT15, TOP16, MSG:73/M530)
<<<<< As Tony said, many of the extended controls are defined by the
""""" system as resources, and have the $07FFxxxx format. This is
because system resources have IDs of $07FFxxxx. :) The ones with the
high bit set are the ones which aren't defined in resources. (Setting
the high bit of a resource ID is illegal, so these can't be resource IDs
:) Also, this value can be a pointer to a custom definition routine. I'd
take a look at TBR III, page 28-89 and 28- 90. The non-extended controls
have values listed on 28-89, and the extended controls have values
listed on 28-90. Anything with the $07FFxxxx would also be extended
(such as thermometer & rectangle) and anything else is probably a
pointer to a custom routine, I'd guess :)
In conclusion, I'd recommend just calling GetCtlID on a control
handle and if it returns an error, then it's not extended. :) (Only
extended controls have IDs :) (the error is $1007,
notExtendedCtlError...see page 28-28 in TBR III to learn more about
GetCtlID :)
(T.BUCHHEIM [] Tim 'pi' [], CAT15, TOP16, MSG:75/M530)
>>>>> Okay, my final post on this issue: (Hey, I heard that sigh of
""""" relief!:)
Jay said "How does one determine if a control is extended? I
haven't seen it documented..." Jay, it is documented in TBR III page
28-28, GetCtlID ($2A10):
"If the specified control is not an extended control, the resulting ID is
undefined, and an error is returned." The error is $1007,
notExtendedCtlError
There. That's what you wanted to know, and sorry for all this stuff
about resource IDs and all that. :) BTW, there might be a better way to
do this, but not that I know of :)
(T.BUCHHEIM [] Tim 'pi' [], CAT15, TOP16, MSG:79/M530)
<<<<< What the _GetCtlID actually does is check the procRef field as you
""""" originally said, and if it has the high bit set, it is extended.
This works with custom extended controls as well, as the Control
Manager sets the high bit when you create it, and ANDs it off whenever it
needs to use the field procRef.
(RICHARD.B [Richard], CAT15, TOP16, MSG:80/M530)
ORCA/M TO MPW IIGS I intend to read the AsmIIGS manual, but does anyone
"""""""""""""""""" have any tips for moving from ORCA/M to MPW IIGS? And
from ORCA to MPW?
BTW, the install script for the MPW IIGS Tools 1.3 uses a full
pathname and fails when appending its help info. The volume name is
"SR.71". I wonder if those working on MPW IIGS already had the new
Powerbooks, or they just like that cool plane.
(JAY.KRELL, CAT19, TOP15, MSG:91/M530)
>>>>> I've uploaded a script here in A2Pro called "ORCAToMPW" that makes
""""" some things easier.
The script is specifically tailored to my coding style, but you could
easily modify it to yours. It is also based on the assumption that
SmartMacors were used in ORCA and are also being used in MPW IIGS.
A scaled back version of the ORCA SmartMacros should also be here in
A2Pro for MPW IIGS.
Also, I keep meaning to upload some of my other scripts that I've
enhanced (for example, MarkIt and SourceMenu) as well as my
UserStartUp*Bryan Zak script so people can get other ideas for
customizing their MPW IIGS setups.
(SOFTDISK.INC [Bryan Zak], CAT19, TOP15, MSG:92/M530)
APPLESOFT REFERENCE BOOKS Can you recommend a good reference book for
""""""""""""""""""""""""" Applesoft Basic for the IIGS with GS/OS 6.0.1??
I have a copy of "A bit of Applesoft Basic" by Critchfield and Dwyer but
this does not reflect the changes for the IIGS. I'm particularly
interested in the easiest method to edit basic programs. I thought one
could convert to a word processor (AppleWorks GS), edit and convert back
but it does seem to be very easy. I can convert to a text file OK. The
problem is to convert back to the basic format. Apparently the EXEC
command is no longer available on system 6. Your comments would be
appreciated.
John W. Butler
(J.BUTLER7, CAT9, TOP7, MSG:114/M530)
<<<<< There are a number of good Applesoft Basic reference books
""""" including Apple's _Applesoft BASIC Programmer's Reference Manual_
and _Handbook of Applesoft BASIC for the Apple II and IIe_ by Roy Myers
and David Schneider.
AppleSoft BASIC is built into the computer's ROM and does not
_require_ any operating system. It's there in the IIe, IIc, and the GS.
Anything that AppleSoft BASIC will do in a IIe, it will do in a GS.
The easiest method to edit basic program, IMHO, is to get a copy of
Alan Bird's _Program Writer_. It operates under ProDOS.
To EXEC a text file, you must first be in BASIC. From the Finder,
double click on the BASIC.SYSTEM file. That will get you to BASIC. Then
you navigate to the folder where the file to be EXEC'ed is located and
type -FILE (where FILE is the name of the file to be EXEC'ed).
Charlie
(C.HARTLEY3, CAT9, TOP7, MSG:115/M530)
>>>>> John, what Charlie said. Get Program Writer (it's a commercial
""""" Applesoft editor). This is not really optional if you are doing
any kind of serious Applesoft programming. It is extremely similar to
Appleworks in usage and a real pleasure to use.
To rephrase what Charlie said about the GS: Applesoft was designed
for the Apple II+ and has never been significantly revised. There is very
little that you can do with Applesoft on a GS that can't be done just as
easily on that II+. You are restricted to about 35K or thereabouts of
free RAM, for example.
Pretty much ANY book on Applesoft will do just fine, for these reasons.
TomZ
(T.ZUCHOWSKI, CAT9, TOP7, MSG:116/M530)
<<<<< The only _major_ change I can think of for Applesoft in its
""""" lifetime is that versions on the IIc, _enhanced_ IIe, and IIgs
will recognize commands in lower case. (Versions for the original II Plus
and unenhanced IIe insisted on UPPER CASE commands only.)
The "differences" referred to for Applesoft on the IIe, IIgs, etc.,
are usually misinterpretations of access to low-level machine features,
like enabling Super High Resolution graphics on the IIgs. There is no
actual "support" for this built into Applesoft; the standard PEEK, POKE,
CALL, etc., commands are used to access low-level functions usually
documented in the hardware and firmware manuals for the specific
computer.
In some cases, access requires writing routines in machine language
(that is, you actually _leave_ Applesoft to execute a separate set of
instructions that do something Applesoft can't do). If you're interested
in learning about this, one book that may still be around is _Machine
Language for Applesoft Programmers_. (This involves starting another
learning curve, but if you want to write Apple II programs it's a very
valuable one. :)
If you want to write software specifically using features of the
Apple IIgs, you'll be better off investing some time in getting the full
IIgs documentation and a "native" IIgs compiler (one that generates
programs specifically designed to run under GS/OS). It's a fair amount
of money and an investment of time to learn, but trying to access
anything but simple IIgs features through Applesoft will run you into a
dead end fairly quickly. (There are probably some "tutorial" files on
IIgs programming in the A2Pro software library if you want to see what's
involved before jumping in.)
(POWERPC.PRO [Dennis], CAT9, TOP7, MSG:117/M530)
MIDI DRIVERS Couldn't decide on a good Category/Topic for this one...
""""""""""""
I recently had difficulties with a program loading in data from my
hard drive... I hadn't had these problems before and then suddenly,
there they were. I was getting some really weird errors, even with a
Shift boot; BUT, when I booted from another partition, the errors did
not occur! So I thought, "Well, the drivers are still being loaded,
I'll look at those..." It turns out that I had recently installed the
Apple.Midi driver when I wanted to take a look at Midi.Surgeon (and
erroneiously thought that the driver would be needed (: ). As soon as I
removed that driver from my Drivers folder, the errors cleared up! Does
the Apple.Midi driver have any known bugs or conflicts with other
drivers (like the RamFAST)? How about when the driver isn't needed (I
don't have MIDI...)?
Rick
(R.ADAMS48, CAT1, TOP21, MSG:33/M530)
>>>>> All drivers are not the same. GS/OS drivers are loaded and
""""" executed at boot time, but MIDI drivers are not. See File Type
Note $BB for more details.
The only way it could be affecting things is if a) someone was using
the MIDI Tools or MIDI Synth, or b) if someone was depending on a given
driver being in a certain place in the directory, which is extremely
unlikely. I think you'll find a Finder Extension that starts up MIDI
Synth or something to be the culprit.
--Matt
>>> HOT TOPICS <<<
""""""""""""""""""
RESOURCE EDITORS I asked this question in Cat 16, but it might be better
"""""""""""""""" to ask here. I'm starting to learn toolbox programming
and will want to use resources at some point in the near future. That
means I'd like to use an editor/ creator that is more visual than Rez.
As far as I can tell, my choices are:
- Genesys (not listed in the Resource Central price list I have)
- Foundation
- Design Master
Is there a comparison of these that I could read, or can some people
give me their opinions of the above? Am I missing any in my list? Is
Genesys (which I've seen in the credits of a few programs) still
available?
Michael
(M.POTTER [AppleNET Pro], CAT10, TOP26, MSG:39/M530)
>>>>> Design Master is not primarily a resource editor...in fact,
""""" although it can create some resources (not many, mostly just
windows and menus) it can't edit existing ones...Genesys and Foundation
are true resource editors. I don't own either, but I've heard that
Genesys is a bit out of date and doesn't handle some of the newer
resources, but Foundation doesn't have editors for all the resource
types, either. You might want to start by looking at ResLin, a freeware
resource editor here in the A2PRO library. It doesn't have editors for
many resource types yet, but more modules are being written...the format
is documented, so you could even write modules to edit the resources you
need, if you wanted to do so :)
(T.BUCHHEIM [] Tim 'pi' [], CAT10, TOP26, MSG:40/M530)
<<<<< Genesys is by far the best visual resource editor. It's a little
""""" bit out of date, but to get around that I layout stuff in Genesys
then generate Rez source code which I tweak to play with System 6.0
features and what not. Unfortunately, I don't know where Genesys is
available from. Maybe you can pick up a copy used here in A2Pro.
Jawaid
(PROCYON.INC, CAT10, TOP26, MSG:41/M530)
>>>>> There are two options you didn't list; LLRE (Low-Level Resource
""""" Editor) and ResLin. Both are available in the A2Pro library. :)
LLRE allows you to edit resources at a byte level; ResLin provides a few
editors but lacks the byte- level capacity.
Though I don't own it, from what I've heard, Foundation is the
superior product of the bunch.
(A2PRO.HELP [Sloanie], CAT10, TOP26, MSG:42/M530)
<<<<< You might also keep in mind that you don't want a resource editor.
""""" A true resource editor will do the job, but when you're creating
original programs, what you really want is something to lay out the
visual aspects of your program. A resource editor isn't really designed
for that.
Let me give you just one firm example to explain the difference.
Let's say you want to change the name of a menu in an existing desktop
application. A program like DesignMaster can't do it at all, and Rez/
DeRez is clumsy at it. Something like Genesis does a fine job.
Now let's assume you're laying out a dialog for a program you are
writing. Woops. Dialogs aren't resources -- so Rez and Genesis won't
work. Design Master, though, is not a resource editor; it's a
programmer's CAD tool. It will lay out a dialog very nicely, but will
refuse to put it in a resource fork, since there is no dialog for
resources. It will, however, create assembly, Pascal or C source to
create a dialog.
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, CAT10, TOP26, MSG:43/M530)
>>>>> > Though I don't own it, from what I've heard, Foundation is the
""""" > superior product of the bunch.
I guess it depends on your definition of superior.
As far as I know, Foundation includes a low level hex editor, a
couple of neat management utilities (parent/child dependency checking
etc.) which you'd hardly use, and a scripting language to write your
own editors.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the management
utilities, what does it have for the programmers to use immediately that
LLRE doesn't?
It seems Foundation appeared in a flurry of excitement, but no one
seemed to want mention it's failings. I guess it had the makings of a
successor to Genesys, but personally I'd be real annoyed (putting it
mildly) if I'd bought it found out what it could(n't) do!
Perhaps Jim could enlighten us a little as to why it never progressed
passed a basic shell.
(RICHARD.B [Richard], CAT10, TOP26, MSG:44/M530)
<<<<< That's neat management utilties which _you'd_ hardly use, Richard.
""""" Other people find them quite valuable. For example, if you're
trying to copy a menu from one file to another, copying the menu resource
also copies all the strings that it requires. That's a time saver for
people who share code and resources.
ScriptEdit allows you to create custom templates for resource types,
in a more visually powerful way than ResEdit does.
And Foundation comes with some simple editors for native types, such
as strings -- and the source code so you can write your own editors.
What it lacks is native editors for the visual elements of the
interface -- things that LLRE will _never_ have. Comparing Foundation to
LLRE is like comparing Nifty List to the monitor.
--Matt
(M.DEATHERAGE, CAT10, TOP26, MSG:45/M530)
>>> MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT <<<
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
Okay, so you have HyperCard IIGS, you have the Script Language
Guide, is there anything else?
Of course. :-)
If you want information on the stuff added to HyperCard IIGS v1.1
(the version in the A2Pro library), you'll also need to get the HyperCard
IIGS Developers Kit Version 1.1. The kit is a two-disk set available
from Resource Central for something like $15. It includes ERS and
release notes for HCGS 1.1 and things like the Media Control Stack. It
also comes with detailed XCMD and callback documentation and a _bunch_
of sample XCMDs.
If you want to take advantage of HCGS 1.1 features or if you want to
write XCMDs, you need this kit. Actually, you might want it
regardless...I think there are a couple errors in the Script Language
Guide that were corrected in the release notes on this disk...
(A2PRO.GELAMP [Nate], CAT18, TOP3, MSG:1/M530)
[*][*][*]
While on GEnie, do you spend most of your time downloading files?
If so, you may be missing out some excellent information in the Bulletin
Board area. The messages listed above only scratch the surface of
what's available and waiting for you in the bulletin board area.
If you are serious about your Apple II, the GEnieLamp staff strongly
urge you to give the bulletin board area a try. There are literally
thousands of messages posted from people like you from all over the world.
[EOA]
[DEV]//////////////////////////////
DEVELOPER'S CORNER /
/////////////////////////////////
News From The A2Pro Online Developers
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
By Nate C. Trost
[A2PRO.GELAMP]
>>> ONLINE SUPPORT IN A2PRO <<<
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
CAT TOP COMPANY
=== === =======
29 INDEPENDENT DEVELOPERS ONLINE
2 DYA/DigiSoft Innovations Online
8 Simplexity Software Online
14 Quality Computers Q-LABS Online
20 DreamWorld Software Online
26 METAL/FV Software Online
32 Kitchen Sink Software Online
38 EdIt-16 (Bill Tudor)
30 PROCYON, INC.
31 SOFTDISK PUBLISHING
33 GS+ MAGAZINE
34 JEM SOFTWARE
35 PRODEV, INC.
36 THE BYTE WORKS
Each month this column feature highlights and news from various
developers who provide support via A2Pro.
>>> NEWS FROM DIGISOFT <<<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>>>> And, we're STILL still alive :)
"""""
Even though nobody has written any T2 modules, I'd still like to
emphasize that it is very simple to write a simple T2 module without
setup. Setup is a bit harder, but with our sample source it should not
be too difficult And if you get stuck, you can post right here! C'mon!
:-)
<<Jim
NOTE our new email address. Mail sent to DYA should also arrive okay,
however.
(DIGISOFT [Jim - T2!], CAT29, TOP3, MSG:15/M530)
<<<<< Well I wrote 2 modules for GS+ Magazine... so source code is
""""" definately plentiful. One module was in C, the other Pascal, so
everyone would be happy. :-)
(JWANKERL [Joe], CAT29, TOP3, MSG:16/M530)
>>>>> Ahh, yeah. I had almost forgotten about the T2 Module Writing
""""" article in GS+!!! Oops. I'll start recommending it again :-) (the
back issue, as well as the magazine)
<<Jim
(DIGISOFT [Jim - T2!], CAT29, TOP3, MSG:17/M530)
>>> NEWS FROM PROCYON INC. <<<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
REZ LANGUAGE TYPE What is the language type using chtyp to change a
""""""""""""""""" source file to Rez? I'm assuming that I can compile
Rez files under GNO as well as Orca C. Am I correct?
Have you had a chance to send "Sum" up here yet?
Thanks,
Michael
(M.POTTER4 [AppleNET Pro], CAT30, TOP2, MSG:85/M530)
<<<<< "rez" :)
"""""
>I'm assuming that I can compile Rez files under GNO as well as Orca C.
>Am I correct?
Indeed you are :)
>Have you had a chance to send "Sum" up here yet?
Just uploaded it a few minutes ago.
Jawaid
(PROCYON.INC, CAT30, TOP2, MSG:86/M530)
GNO PRINTERS AND THE ORCA EDITOR I have a couple of questions on printing
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" from GNO to an ImageWriter II. Also,
I have a question on missing input from the keyboard.
If I use >.ttyb to redirect output, no form feed is issued at the end
of a page and unless the paper is perfectly lined up printing on the
perforations occurs. Also, the left margin is too small. I looked at
the termcap file for the imagewriter and the codes looked ok, but
changes I made to the termcap file had no effect. It's as if ttyb
doesn't know about the imagewriter termcap file.
Question 1: How do I redirect output to an imagewriter?
If I use lpr to print to the imagewriter, the perforation problem
disappears. However, the left margin is smaller than I like and a default
header is added to the printout. There is no manpage for lpr that I
could find. The options look like they might help ( -h ); however, they
don't seem to work.
Question 2: How do I use the options in lpr to control a
header, footer and left margin?
I started to type this note with the ORCA editor run from the GNO
shell. However, I found that too many keystrokes were missed as I typed.
Going back and adding the missing keystrokes was so unproductive that I
switched to the ORCA editor run from the ORCA shell. No more missing
keystokes with this approach. I had not added any background processing
when I was using GNO.
Question 3: Is there a problem with multi-tasking causing missed
keystrokes or is their something wrong with my GNO
setup?
When I quit the ORCA editor and return to the GNO shell, I frequently
get a series of shell prompts some of which have strange commands.
(Probably the missing keystrokes). What is really un-productive is when
the last command is to go to the ORCA editor. This causes a never
ending cycle of quit editor, goto editor, quit editor that can only be
broken by a properly timed escape, a few swear words and other
keystrokes until the shell deceides to stop returning to the editor.
Question 4: Is there any way to eliminate the unasked for prompts
and the occasional cycle to the editor?
If the problem is an incompatibility between the ORCA editor and GNO
can you recommend an editor that is compatible?
Joe Norman
(S.NORMAN1, CAT30, TOP2, MSG:91/M530)
<<<<< You have to change the aux type of the editor file to warn GNO that
""""" the ORCA editor "breaks" GNO's rules for keyboard reading. I
changed it and use the editor all the time with no problems.
The command is: chtyp -a \$DC00 filename
Use "edit" as the filename (while in the correct directory) and you
shouldn't have any more problems.
Michael
(M.POTTER4 [AppleNET Pro], CAT30, TOP2, MSG:94/M530)
>>>>> .ttyb is a "raw" device; that is, it does no processing on the data
""""" you send to it. This also means it doesn't do anything with the
termcap file.
As far as lpr options go, give me a day or so to work on that and
I'll spiffy it right up :-)
Page 50 in the GNO/Shell manuals explains how to fix all the problems
you were having with the editor.
Jawaid
(PROCYON.INC, CAT30, TOP2, MSG:100/M530)
>>> NEWS FROM GS+ MAGAZINE <<<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
POSTSCRIPT FONTS AND LASERWRITERS I have an early LaserWriter and a ROM 1
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" IIGS. I would like to send PostScript
fonts to the LaserWriter from the IIGS. I have at least two programs that
I can use to send a font to the LaserWriter over Appletalk. My problem
is that I do not know PostScript language and I do not know how to
prepare an IBM text type font or a Mac font that has the resource fork
removed, so that it will be in the format that the LaserWriter can use.
I would like a nice "Script" font. Can any one help ?
Thanks,
Ted
(T.BURFORD1, CAT33, TOP3, MSG:3/M530)
<<<<< Well, I normally don't pre-announce stuff, but...
"""""
I figured out how. I've been downloading PostScript type 1 fonts to
our LaserWriter IINT today like crazy testing the thing. (In the
process, I had to write a complete read-only macintosh resource manager.
:-) There are a couple of rough areas to iron out still, but I expect
the program to be in the next one or two issues. (Hopefully I'll get it
in the very next one.)
(JWANKERL [Joe], CAT33, TOP3, MSG:18/M530)
SHELL VERSION OF MIDI SURGEON Here's something interesting for those who
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" receive the Jan/Feb issue of GS+.
I've uploaded some C source code to turn MIDI Surgeon from a desktop
program into a non-interactive shell program. This is the early form of
the program that only does MIDI translation of a single file. The
interface is midi2gs file.mid file.seq where file.mid is the existing
MIDI file and file.seq is the resulting MIDI Synth sequence file. When
done, you need to change the file type of the sequence file to $D5, aux
type 1 for it to be recognized by MIDI Surgeon or synthLAB, and you have
to use one of those programs to assign instruments.
"What's the benefit with that?" you may well ask! I can think of a couple:
You might have a whole batch of MIDI files you want to translate.
You can set up a script to do the translations in batch while you do
something else. When they're done, you can use MIDI Surgeon to fine tune
the instruments.
If you have access to a UNIX workstation, you can compile midi2gs and
do the initial translations there. This has worked out quite nicely for
me on my HP 9000/700 at work, where I have access to the Internet. After
translation I run them through the UNIX version of synthfile:
synthfile -v *.seq | grep -v Note_o > list
to get a listing of all the MIDI controls that are embedded and are
candidates for removal.
Anyway...try it out if you get the GS+ magazine and disk.
Instructions are included on which files are used for compiling under
ORCA, GNO, or UNIX.
-- Dave Tribby
P.S. It's file # 3875 in the A2 Pro library
(D.TRIBBY [Dave], CAT33, TOP3, MSG:8/M530)
MISCLIB AND ~TOOLERROR The routines don't set the ~ToolError variable if
"""""""""""""""""""""" a toolbox error occurs, do they? I'd like to see
this...
Rick
(R.ADAMS48, CAT33, TOP7, MSG:25/M530)
<<<<< No, no ~ToolError variable is set. The reason is because MiscLib
""""" doesn't know what environment you're calling it from. C? Pascal?
Modula-2? (There'll be a Mod-2 interface file for the next misclib.)
Assembly? I'll see if I can improve on this, though.
The mac resource reading routines I mentioned in the Wishing Well
topic are going to be in misclib - I followed Inside MacIntosh fairly
closely in designing the routines, and the way you find out if an error
occurred is to call mlResError which returns the last error that
occurred. Perhaps that can be put in to misclib globally somehow.
(JWANKERL [Joe], CAT33, TOP7, MSG:26/M530)
>>>>> > The reason is because MiscLib doesn't know what environment
""""" > you're calling it from. C? Pascal? Modula-2?
Joe, they all use ~TOOLERROR and if assembly stuff, you can just tell
the programmer to do this:
~TOOLERROR ENTRY
DS 2
That way assembly programmers don't have any problems when linking...
Bryan
(SOFTDISK.INC [Bryan Zak], CAT33, TOP7, MSG:27/M530)
<<<<< Actually, you don't have to define ~TOOLERROR in assembly, either.
""""" The linker will pull the proper segment into the program for any
assembly program that references ~TOOLERROR. If you save tool errors in
~TOOLERROR, it will work with any ORCA language.
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, CAT33, TOP7, MSG:28/M530)
>>> NEWS FROM PRODEV, INC. <<<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
MORE DDT Q&A I tried booting into Prodos 8 as you suggested, but without
"""""""""""" any luck. Just to provide a baseline, I tried tracing my
little program without any T range in the PW window. Prodev traced okay,
going into the Monitor Home subroutine as was to be expected. It did
this regardless of whether I had I = 0 or I = 1.
I then entered T00.0304.0306 into the PW window (still in Prodos 8,
of course). ProDev traced okay up to the JSR to the Home subroutine. The
next instruction displayed was "00/01DD:00 BRK". I had I = 0 on at the
time.
Still in Prodos 8, and with the T range intered in the PW, but with
I = 1 this time, I tried again. Got the same result, except the BRK
looked like this "00/01D9:00 BRK".
Incidentally, I have an intermittent problem with the QUit command
when I want to get out of ProDev. Sometimes it takes me back to the
Monitor, but much more frequently it simply leaves me in ProDev with
another display of the last instruction previously displayed added to
the screen. When this happens I can't get out of ProDev no matter how
many times I repeat QU (or QUit). I just get another display of the
latest instruction added for each try. Usually I'm trying to quit from
the T: command. I've tried entering PC=300 and then from simple :
cursor entering QU; same unhappy result.
Chuck, I guess we could go on this way for some time. To short
circuit this, I'm mailing you a zerox copy of the original program from
Roger Wagner's book and a 3.5 disk with his unaltered program on it
(Loop.Demo.4) plus the program as I altered it (Loop.Demo.4X) by addding
3 do-nothing instructions at the very beginning. I did this, you may
recall, to avoid having the first instruction be the JSR to the Home
subroutine (which would also be the start of my T range).
Could I impose upon you to try tracing this little program through
ProDev? I'd really appreciate it and it might save us a lot of time. Then
you could tell me (in detail) exactly how you did it and I could try to
repeat the process.
If I don't succeed, following your detailed steps, well who knows,
maybe I have gotten hold of a defective ProDev board. It could happen.
Incidentally, no need to return my disk; and you can reply either on
GEnie or by mail at your option. In the latter case, I'd be happy to pay
the postage.
(R.HOYER1, CAT35, TOP2, MSG:23/M530)
<<<<< I received your question in the mail the other day. I thought I
""""" would post the question and answer here for the benefit of other
DDT users who may be having similiar problems. { Note! I have had trouble
getting on Genie lately, I was getting busy signals?}
Question -
How do you trace your code without tracing through all the
monitor routines your code may call?
(ProDev - A similar problem is how to avoid getting yanked away from
the code you are trying to trace by a system interrupt.)
Answer -
You have several ways to avoid tracing sections of your code, be it
monitor routines or areas of your own program that are already debugged.
Use the "RT" command - The "RT" (Real Time) command can be used when
you are at a "JSR" instruction. The program will run at full speed until
it reaches the instruction following the JSR. Just type "RT <cr>" at the
DDT prompt to use this command.
Use the "ER" command - The "ER" (Execute to RTS) command will take
you to the next RTS in your code. Your code is not run at full speed but
it does go much faster than tracing.
Set a Trace range in the Protection Window - This method is sort of
like an automatic "RT" mode. To set a Trace range type "PW <cr>" at the
DDT prompt. This will put the cursor in the Protection Window. Go to a
free line and type "T 00/F000.FFF0". Press "esc" to return to the DDT
prompt. This example would run all code between address $F000 and $FFF0
at full speed. Once the Trace range is set use "TR" or "ST" to trace or
step through your code. Now use "TR" or "ST" to trace or step through
your program. Any subroutines inside the trace range will be run at full
speed. When you trace a JSR $FDED you will go to the first instruction
at $FDED just like a normal trace operation. Now when you press "return"
instead of tracing the next instruction the DDT will start the code
running at full speed until it returns to the instruction that follows
the JSR $FDED.
This is how it normally should work. However in the process of
testing the various methods of doing this I discovered a possible bug in
the DDT software that involves masking system interrupts. It seems some
of the IIGS monitor routines enable interrupts even if GSOS is not
booted. They also seem to overide the I=1 flag setting of the DDT. If
you find yourself suddenly at location $C074 you have just been
interrupted. Try setting I=1 again in the DDT and put the program
counter back where it should be with the PC= command. Not all of the
monitor routines enable interrupts so you may not encounter a problem.
P.S. An important note on the "T" range in the Protection Window -- The
address you put in the "T" range is the address you are doing a JSR to.
For example if you want to run the monitor routines at full speed you
would put T 00/F000.FF00 in the protection window.
I hope this helps.
Chuck
(PRODEV [Chuck], CAT35, TOP2, MSG:24-25/M530)
>>> NEWS FROM THE BYTE WORKS <<<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
NEW FEATURE IDEAS WANTED Well, I'm still waiting on a new hard drive.
"""""""""""""""""""""""" The promised version won't be delivered. The
company was backordered, and just heard from their supplier -- Apple
bought all of the available drives for new Macs. :} ANyway, a different
one is due in next week. Once it's here, I'll have more disk space to
streatch out, and will start working on updates.
So why should you care? Just this:
I'd like to hear from all of you about your favorite pet features
you'd like to see in the next release of the ORCA software. These should
be small changes, not major new software releases. In short, things
like Pascal returning strings, or labels in the editor, not C++ or
BASIC. So what would you like to see?
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, CAT36, TOP3, MSG:76/M530)
ORCA/C Q&A What do we need to do to get the latest version of ORCA/C?
""""""""""
We have 2.0.0 (the rVersion says 2.0b1). Can we get it electronically?
Bryan
(SOFTDISK.INC [Bryan Zak], CAT36, TOP11, MSG:124/M530)
>>>>> On the ORCA/C disks there are a bunch of header files in the
""""" Apple.SEA, all of them have a date of 1 Jan 93. Which header
files should be used? I know Mike said that the ORCA header files were
optimized. Also, would all of the header files have to be re-compiled?
Ken "KAZ" Kazinski
(K.KAZINSKI, CAT36, TOP11, MSG:125/M530)
<<<<< Bryan: The rVersion was a goof. It's 2.0. You can update for $7,
""""" which includes shipping in the US. You can order electronically,
but you can't get the update electronically. Once you have the update,
you can ask for access to the private ORCA libraries, which gives you
electronic access to intermediate releases of the software.
Kaz, we give you our interfaces and Apple's. Apple's interfaces
are there for reference and to help port old code written with APW C or
very early versions of ORCA/C. They should not be used for new
programs.
Our interfaces are not optimized. There's really no such thing as
optimizing an interface. Our interfaces are prototyped, though, taking
advantage of ANSI C's ability to do some of the type checking available
in high-level languages. Apple's interfaces were designed for APW C,
which is a K&R C. It doesn't support prototyping, so Apple's interfaces
are not prototyped.
Finally, in ORCA/C, headers are not compiled. That's true in most
Cs. ORCA/C does produce "precompiled header files" in the form of .sym
files, but these are created when you compile your program, not when you
install the headers. The short answer, then, is no: You don't have to
recompile the headers.
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, CAT36, TOP11, MSG:126/M530)
HYPERLOGO CONTEST I'd like to propose a challenge to anyone who is
""""""""""""""""" currently using 3D Logo or HyperLogo. In an attempt to
"kick off" HyperLogo in Studio City I'm willing to offer a prize to the
best HyperStuio stack that utilizes HyperLogo and explains how it was
done. Alternately, if you have a cool 3D Logo program that can be moved
to a HyperStudio stack I'd liek to see those as well.
Mike... Would you go for such a proposal and perhaps sweeten the pot
in terms of a prize for such a competition? Does anyone else have any
ideas that would help HyperStudio users and Studio City subscribers get
a sampling of HyperLogo?
Cheers... Bill Lynn, Managing Editor, Studio City
(BILL.LYNN [Switched On], CAT36, TOP32, MSG:101/M530)
[EOA]
[CAM]///////////////////////////////
CAMPUS GREEN /
//////////////////////////////////
New A2U Course Begins
"""""""""""""""""""""
Nate Trost
[A2PRO.GELAMP]
HYPERTALK TUTOR 101 Is a new course that has just started in A2U!
""""""""""""""""""" This course, taught by Brendan Bellina,
serves as an introduction to the HyperTalk scripting language that
is built into HyperCard IIGS. If you have HyperCard IIGS and have
been wanting to do more with it, don't miss this course! The only
cost of A2U is any online charges incurred while downloading lessons,
attending RTCs, etc.
You can sign up at any time by posting in Category 22, Topic 24
(just say, "I want to take the HyperTalk course!").
The first two lessons are available (as HyperCard stacks) in
the A2Pro library, they are files 3929 and 3944 respectively.
For help with the course, post in Category 22, Topic 26, which is
the official topic for the HyperTalk Tutor 101 course.
Live help is available every Thursday night at 9pm EST as Brendan
hosts a Real Time Conference in Room 3 of the A2Pro RTC.
[EOA]
[SPL]///////////////////////////////
SPLAT! TRANSCRIPT /
//////////////////////////////////
Transcript from the Splat! RTC
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Nate Trost
[A2PRO.GELAMP]
<JUST.DAVE> OK, first off, I'd like to welcome everyone to tonight's
conference. The first thing I'm gonna do is give you a
little time to read all the stuff I just typed above (or
at least I'll type slow) :)
Tonight's special conference guests are Jawaid Bazyar
(publisher) and Mike Hackett (Author) of Splat!. I'll
let Mike explain a little:
<A2PRO.GUEST> If you program in Orca/C or Orca/Pascal (or Modula 2) you
need it! :-) It's a source-level debugger for any Orca
language (except assembler) that runs under Orca, GNO, or
outside of these environments.
Hmm, I think Jawaid would be better at this overview
stuff. But basically, it is a text-based debugger
(similar to Orca/Debugger) with a desktop-like interface.
It runs under GNO, which none of the Orca debuggers do,
and it does support the new Orca 2 languages. You can
debug virtually any type of program with it, including
NDAs, INITs, CDAs, FExts, and even Twilight II screen
blankers!
OK, the basics. A source-level debugger lets you step
through your program a line at a time, to see what's
happening. Previously, you would have to use GSBug,
which works only at the machine-language level, which is
very confusing for new comers.
You can also view the contents of your variables and the
displays your program generates as you step through it.
You can also run through sections of the program
automatically, so you don't have to step through every
line. If you program in the Orca or GNO text shells, the
only difference between compiling a program normally and
preparing it for debugging is to include a "+d" on the
"compile" command. You can get finer control over the
process if needed.
<M.POTTER4> Ok, Mike, I have Splat! and am learning to use C and
desktop programs. I like the way it displays my
variables so I can see what my program is doing. You
mention in the docs that you're working on new features.
Anything in particular?
<A2PRO.GUEST> Well, nothing yet, except for the minor update to fix the
exit() bug. In the future, I am planning on adding
things like expression evaluation, mouse control, and
two-monitor debugging, to name a few things. Expression
evaluation means that you can put conditional breakpoints
and watches on your code. Two-monitor debugging is
really nice for developing desktop programs, since you
can view both your program's and Splat!'s display at the
same time. This will be supported through either a Video
Overlay Card and/or GNO external terminals.
Oh, if you have any suggestions, please send them to me
(M.HACKETT).
<JUST.DAVE> That's if you come up with any suggestions after tonight,
send them in EMail to M.HACKETT :)
<M.POTTER4> Mike, I have a few other comments about Splat! (all nice).
I am a beginning level C programmer. Before I bought
Splat!, I only had a hazy idea about how my programs were
working. Now I can watch and learn. The second thing is
that the name is very popular with my computer
programming friends, and the third is they all love your
boot-up icon.
<A2PRO.GUEST> Well, thanks. I'm glad you like it. Yes, source-level
debugging is tremendously valuable to both beginning and
experienced programmers. And, BTW, the boot-up icon was
drawn by my wife, her first foray into computer art. :)
<M.POTTER4> I guess I'll close by saying that I have GNO and I'd be
most interested in having the two monitor display so I
could see my program and the variables (and code lines)
as the program ran.
<A2PRO.GUEST> Yeah, I'm looking forward to that feature myself. :)
<K.KAZINSKI> Sorry I'm late, but what will splat do that prizm doesnt?
Or will it just do the same things only better? Also
will it include features of GSbug, such as templates?
What if I dont have GNO will Splat still be useful?
Also, is there a demo version?
<A2PRO.GUEST> Well, Splat! is text-based for one, which allows it to
debug CDAs, etc. Prizm only supports application
debugging, and perhaps NDAs. Also, I found Prizm very
unreliable. It does support templates - in fact, it uses
the same format as GSBug, with a few extensions, so you
can use all of your GSBug templates right away. However,
if you are using an Orca 2.0 language, you shouldn't need
templates, as these newer languages support viewing
structures in the debugger. Splat! does not require GNO,
it runs perfectly well under Orca, or outside of these
environments. It is the only debugger that DOES work
under GNO, but it does not require it.
And finally, no there is no demo version (yet). I was
just thinking about that today, but I'm not sure how to
put together a package that's useful, without being too
useful. ;-)
<K.KAZINSKI> Great, thanks for the info. Last quick quesiton, whats it
cost?
<A2PRO.GUEST> I believe it's $39.95 from Procyon (direct mail-order
only). If Jawaid ever gets here, he can confirm that. In
case he doesn't make it, the phone number for Procyon is
(303) 781-3273.
<JUST.DAVE> There's also a 15% discount for those attending this
conference tonight.
<JMICHAEL> What does SPLAT stand for? (My company has registered
'SPLLAT munitions(r)'. To us SPLLAT means Special
Purpose Low Lethality Anti-Terrorist munitions.) }:>
<A2PRO.GUEST> Nothing - it's just "Splat!", the sound heard when a bug
gets crushed. :-)
<A2PRO.GELAMP> Can you elaborate more on the 'text environment that's
like a desktop interface'?
<A2PRO.GUEST> Sure. Splat!'s display consists of a number of "windows",
using MouseText to emulate a desktop-like display on the
text screen. If you've seen MouseTalk, you'll have a
fair idea of what it's like, although I've taken it
further.
The 3 default windows are a Source window that fills the
top half of the screen, and then the Variables and Output
windows dividing the lower half. You can also scroll
around in these windows to see all of the contents.
At this point, the windows are still fixed, although you
can play with the configuration a bit if you don't need
the Output window (it shows text only, of course). A
later version may add mouse support and add to the
desktop interface.
Many commands bring up dialogs with simple buttons and
list boxes, and our file dialog is very much like the
Standard File Dialog. I think you get the idea. Oops,
forgot to mention, all commands are keyboard based, of
course.
<K.KAZINSKI> Does Procyon have a 1-800 number? Will Splat! display
arrays and pointers? Also, is it a utility (in the
utilities folder) or a stand-alone program. Thanks.
<A2PRO.GUEST> No 800 number. Yes, the contents of arrays and pointers
(including the data pointed to) can be viewed in the
Variables windows. You can also get a more detailed view
by "expanding" the structure in a special dialog that
allows you to see every element, and expand compound
elements further. Handles (or pointers to pointers) can
also be expanded. Splat! comes in two forms: an Init and
a shell utility. The Init is probably preferable because
it is always available once installed. You just run a
program with debug codes in it and it pops up
automatically. The shell version can be used when memory
is limited or you only use the program occasionally, and
it is used just like any other shell utility. I think
that's everything, isn't it?
One thing I should add is that Splat! does not work from
within Prizm - it gets locked out. You have to quit
Prizm to use Splat!.
<K.KAZINSKI> forgot what will have to do to to turn on debug from orca?
<A2PRO.GUEST> Use "compile +d <sourcename>" (or cmpl, etc.). That will
generate debug codes for the entire program. To limit
debugging to certain subroutines, you can use the
"#pragma debug" preprocessor command in C (I forget what
the Pascal equivalent is).
<K.KAZINSKI> thanks, I thought you were saying that I would need a
different directive.
<A2PRO.GUEST> Nope, it's just one of the command options. Take a look
in the Orca manual for your language.
<A2PRO.GELAMP> Does Splat! have profiling?
<A2PRO.GUEST> YES! (short answer)
You can view a profile of your program at any time with
the Profile command.
<PROCYON.INC> Greetings!
<JUST.DAVE> I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome Jawaid
Bazyar, president of Procyon. He's finally here :)
<A2PRO.GUEST> 'Bout time. :-)
<PROCYON.INC> Hi everyone! I just wanted to let you all know that Splat!
is only one of a continuing series of great Apple IIGS
software from Procyon! Did Mike mention how absolutely
fantastically wonderful Splat! is? :)
<A2PRO.GUEST> I've been fairly modest so far, I think. :)
<JUST.DAVE> Yes, any of those questions you asked earlier that got
deferred to Jawaid, now is the time to ask again :)
<PROCYON.INC> Questions? I _LOVE_ questions!
<M.POTTER4> Mike, is there a way under Splat! to view memory
locations? I plan on using malloc() and would love to be
able to see what was put into the location.
<A2PRO.GUEST> If you define the pointer to that location as a certain
type of structure, you can see what's in the structure
with Splat!. If you allocating a block of bytes (or
words, or whatever), Splat! will only show the first
element. However, you can use the pointer value
displayed to view the memory with something like Nifty
List (highly recommended). Better support may be added in
the future.
<M.POTTER4> It would be helpfull to do a "dump" of a memory area while
the program is running, but I guess I should look at
Niftylist.
<A2PRO.GUEST> I agree; perhaps in a future version. However, Nifty List
does memory dumps very well, and it's easy to use. (And
now, apparently, it's free too.)
<M.POTTER4> Is there a way to view variables as binary (1's and 0's)?
<A2PRO.GUEST> Not yet. That too is on the wish list for the future. I
would like to add a group of commands to let you view a
value in binary, octal, or hexidecimal format (and I've
already got the keys reserved for these). Look for it in
v1.1 (whenever that's comes out). :-)
<M.POTTER4> Great! I'd upgrade for that (done)
<A2PRO.GUEST> Hey, Jawaid, before you disappear again, why don't you
tell 'em all how to order. :-)
<K.KAZINSKI> Just wanted to verify the price with Jawaid. And see if
there is a 1-800 number
<PROCYON.INC> I think I'll do that... hm, GMTA Mike and Kaz! You can
order Splat! by mailing a check or money order to:
Procyon Enterprises Inc.
PO Box 620334
Littleton, CO 80162-0334
Normally, Splat! is $39.95, but for the attendees of this
GEnie RTC, we are offering a special 15% discount! Which
comes out to $34. Also, our competitive upgrade offer is
still valid until February 15. If you currently own
ORCA/Debugger, you can upgrade to Splat! for only $24.95.
Just mail us your disk along with your order, or mail a
photocopy of the disk (if you mail the actual disk we'll
mail it back) And, if you already own Splat!, we'll give
you a coupon worth 15% off any Procyon product, if
ordered directly from us. Did I leave anything out?
<A2PRO.GUEST> Looks good to me.
<K.KAZINSKI> That's what Mike thought, just making sure. What
enhancements are you already looking at? :)
<PROCYON.INC> I know what I'd like to see, but maybe Mike has something
else up his sleeve :)
<A2PRO.GUEST> Nothing more has been done except to fix a couple of bugs
in the first version. I don't forsee an "enhancement"
update coming for at least a couple of months, as I am
working on a couple of other projects as well. But you
never know. :-) Let me know what you're looking for too,
Jawaid.
<PROCYON.INC> During those couple of months you can tell us what _you'd_
like to see. One of Procyon's top concerns is molding
products based on customer wishes and desires, and we
will continue that tradition with Splat!
<A2PRO.GUEST> Absolutely. A number of the features included in v1.0
were a direct result of beta-testers' suggestions.
<JMICHAEL> What is the current list of Procyon products?
<PROCYON.INC> If you'd like a complete catalog, send email to
PROCYON.INC with your address and I'll get one right out
to you!
But briefly: GNO/ME 2.0, Splat!, Pick'n'Pile and
Switch-It!. With a lot more coming soon.
[EOA]
[TOU]///////////////////////////////
TOUR OF 8/16 CENTRAL /
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The Great Programmers Magazine
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Chris Budewig
[K.FLYNN]
A full directory of all files on each issue of 8/16 and 8/16-Central
can be found in file #3382 (ESC.INDEX.BXY). A condensed directory of the
contents of this issue is included below. The code letters in
parentheses next to each item mean:
S : Source code -- what you need to create a program
X : Executable program -- you can run this directly!
D : Documentation -- tells how the program works and what to do with it
A : Article -- explains a subject and probably the source code that
demonstrates it
>> 8/16-Central - January, 1991 - File #3401 <<
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/ES.CENTRAL.9101/
..About.This.Disk Introduction and complete catalog listing
..Contents Table of Contents
..Columns/
....WhatsNew About the latest in the world of Apple II
..Q.And.A/
....LETTERS Readers Write - The MLI and READ_BLOCK, Programming
the Mouse (from BASIC), and
Miscellaneous
....AOL.SIGNUP How to sign up for America Online
....GE.SIGNUP How to sign up for GEnie
....AOL.TT America Online TechTalk - Interrupts and Heartbeat
tasks
....GE.TT GEnie TechTalk - Reading Lineedit and Popup Controls
..Apple.II/
....CharGen/ (SXA) How to 'print' characters on the hi-res screen
....ZBasic/ (SXA) ZBasic Zealot - A variety of string handling
routines: PurgeString (remove non-approved
characters from a string), ReplaceString,
BestMatchString (uses 'Fuzzy Logic' to find the
best match from an array of strings), ParseWord
(rip apart a source string into component
words), and WordCount
..Apple.IIgs/
....HyperLab/ (A) Using HyperStudio as a development environment
....Hardware/ (A) Hardware Hacker - Building a Homebrew Sound
Digitizer
......AZ/ (XD) Shareware digitizing software for above
....GeneriPrint/ (SXA) A one-call-does-it-all routine to print the
current window's current TextEdit control
..Goodies/
....Mr.Z/ (SX) Ever wonder how to put scrolling TEXT in the
border of a GS screen? Mr. Z shows you how
....Mab.Anim/ (SX) Animation with shape tables in Micol Advanced
BASIC
....NotesStack/ (S) Handy HyperCard stack to keep track of info
....ElMacro/ (XD) CDA keyboard macro program - GS/OS or ProDOS 8!
....ShapeScanner/ (SX) Applesoft program to automatically create shape
tables from hires pictures
....NDAFrame/ (SD) Merlin and ORCA source showing how to properly
set up and use an NDA
Whew, lots of stuff this issue. Ross Lambert returns in this issue
with another installment of ZBasic Zealot to demonstrate some handy
string handling code. These routines can be used equally well from
Micol Advanced BASIC, so the article says. Ross also gives some
background behind the transfer of 8/16 to Resource Central.
Ever want to do you own sound digitization, but didn't want to spend
the bucks for one of those fancy stereo cards to do it with? This
installment in David Gauger's series of Hardware Hacker articles tells
you how to do it with about $20 worth of parts from Radio Shack!
>> 8/16-Central - February, 1991 - File #3402 <<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
/ES.CENTRAL.9102/
..About.This.Disk Introduction and complete catalog listing
..Contents Table of Contents
..Columns/
....WhatsNew (A) About the latest in the world of Apple II
....HyperLab/ (SA) New Hyperstudio XCMD's GetText & SetText
....VAPORWARE (A) Murphy Sewall's industry snapshot
..Q.And.A/
....LETTERS Readers Write
....AOL.SIGNUP How to sign up for America Online
....GE.SIGNUP How to sign up for GEnie
....AOL.TT America Online TechTalk - More memory for Applesoft
....GE.TT GEnie TechTalk - HyperCard IIgs & System 5.0.4
..Apple.II/
....BTREES/ (SXA) Using binary trees from BASIC!
....Menus/ (SXA) Menus Made Easy - first in a three-part series
on desktop windows and menus for the Apple II
..Apple.IIgs/
....RESOURCES/ (SXA) Custom resource types - how to use the SysErrs
file that comes with ORCA (and APW)
....Pics.3200/ (SXA) How you can display 3200 color pictures in your
own programs - includes three sample 3200 color
pictures (Almaden, Eagle, & Plane) and a
program to create more from GIF pictures
..Goodies/
....SSC.Driver/ (SXD) Interrupt-driven P8 Super Serial Card driver
....MacDown/ (XD) Convert downloaded Macintosh files for use on
your Apple II - extracts Mac's equivalent to
Binary II, unpacks PackIt compressed files, and
converts MacPaint files to hires screens
....SFMultiGet/ (SX) Demo source code for the SFMultiGet2 tool call
This issue's Apple II section has an article on Binary Trees and how
you can use them in your programs to make finding an item in a database
an order of magnitude faster than a sequential search.
On the IIGS side, have you ever wondered how those guys displayed the
pictures with 3200 colors? Derek Young shows you how in his article on
the subject which comes complete with source code and a routine to do
the job from Applesoft! Also included is a program by Jonah Stich that
converts GIF pictures to Apple Preferred or 3200-color pictures so that
you can create your own high-color screens.
[EOA]
[LIB]//////////////////////////////
LIBRARY BIT BONANZA /
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HOT Files You Can Download
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By Tim Buchheim
[T.BUCHHEIM]
>>> HyperCard IIGS!!! <<<
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HyperCard is copyright 1992, Apple Computer, Inc. All rights reserved.
YOU MUST READ AND AGREE TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT IN FILE APPLE.LIC.TXT,
APPLE.LIC.BXY OR APPLE.LIC.SIT BEFORE DOWNLOADING THESE FILES.
HyperCard IIgs requires_ 1.5 MB of RAM and a single disk volume
greater than 3 MB and System 5.0.4 or later.
Files containing the 6 HCGS disks:
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File # 3904 INST.TOUR.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 440K (d/l time approx. 34 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a 3.5" disk image of the Installer/Tour disk, one of
six disks required to install HyperCard IIgs from floppy. All six disks
are _required; if you want to install from disks, you must download this
and the other five disk archives in the set with keyword "HCGSDisk".
File # 3896 HCGS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 460K (d/l time approx. 35 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a 3.5" disk image of the HCGS Program disk, one of
six disks required to install HyperCard IIgs from floppy.
File #3910 STACKS1.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 400K (d/l time approx. 31 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a 3.5" disk image of the first HCGS stacks disk, one
of six disks required to install HyperCard IIgs from floppy.
File #3911 STACKS2.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by APRO.HELP
About 441K (d/l time approx. 34 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a 3.5" disk image of the second HCGS stacks disk, one
of six disks required to install HyperCard IIgs from floppy.
File # 3897 HCGS.HELP.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 437K (d/l time approx. 34 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a 3.5" disk image of the HCGS help disk, one of six
disks required to install HyperCard IIgs from floppy.
File # 3902 HTALKHELP.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 266K (d/l time approx. 20 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a 3.5" disk image of the HCGS HyperTalk help disk,
one of six disks required to install HyperCard IIgs from floppy.
File containing the entire HCGS package
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File # 3901 HCGS.WHOLE.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 2498K (d/l time approx. 190 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the _entire_ HyperCard IIgs installation,
completely installed. It includes the program, the home stack, the help
stacks, all the Apple stacks (including the Tour and Stack Checker
stacks), the Read Me file from the Developer CD, the icons and FTD for
System 5.0.4 and all sample XCMDs with source. It requires 2.5 MB of
disk space to download!
Files containing individual parts of HCGS
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File # 3900 HCGSSTARTER.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 459K (d/l time approx. 35 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the "HyperCard IIgs Starter Kit" -- the
HyperCard IIgs application and the "home" stack -- the bare minimum files
for HyperCard IIgs to run. This archive contains no icons for System
5.0.4, no supporting stacks, no sample source code and no HyperCard
introductory material, all of which are available in A2Pro in other
archives, but it is the smallest set of files necessary to use HyperCard
IIgs stacks.
File #3914 TUNEBUILDER.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 185K (d/l time approx. 14 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the HyperCard IIgs TuneBuilder stack from
Apple. A very cool stack -- this lets you enter musical notation into a
staff and not only hear the results with different instruments -- it
will actually create a HyperTalk command to reproduce the tune for your
own stacks!
File #3913 TOUR.STACK.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 407K (d/l time approx. 31 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the "Your Tour of HyperCard IIgs" stack from
Apple. This stack introduces you to the concepts in HyperCard such as
stacks, fields, backgrounds, cards, scripts and buttons. These may not
be the same as in other "hyper" environments you've used, so if you're
new to HyperCard, running this stack is a good first move.
File #3912 STORYBOARD.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 78K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the HyperCard IIgs "StoryBoard" stack from
Apple. It's an unedited story by two children showing how it's possible
to make multimedia stories and such in HyperCard. This stack also
includes a floating tool palette, which is a cool addition.
File #3909 STACKCHECKR.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 14K (d/l time approx. 1 minute 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains Apple's "Stack Checker" stack -- a stack that
checks other HyperCard IIgs stacks for corruption and other signs of
damage.
File # 3908 SCRIPTTOOLS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 321K (d/l time approx. 24 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive is a scripter's dream! It contains dozens of XCMDs,
XFCNs, sounds and scripts you can use in your own stacks, complete with
documentation and installation instructions! Several of these tools are
used in Apple's stacks to do things like insert menus into the menu bar
from a stack. Gotta have it!
File # 3907 SAMPLE.XCMD.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 145K (d/l time approx. 11 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains source code to Apple's sample external commands
(XCMDs) for HyperCard IIgs: "Beep" (in assembly, C and Pascal),
ListWindow, MemState, Media Control, Picture and the XWindow Shell in
assembly, C and Pascal. All source is in MPW IIgs format and some files
have been renamed from their HFS originals to fit ProDOS naming
conventions.
File #3906 PICTUREPUZZ.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 44K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains Apple's "PicturePuzzler" stack for HyperCard
IIgs. PicturePuzzler lets you take a screen-sized picture and splits it
up into a puzzle waiting to be reassembled. You can provide your own
pictures, or use the techniques in your own stacks!
File # 3905 MEDCONTSTAK.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 45K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This stack contains examples of how to use the provided MediaControl
XCMD to access the Apple IIgs Media Control Toolset (provided under
System 6.0 and later). The Media Control tools and XCMD allow you to
control video equipment, video overlay and more from your own stacks!
File # 3903 ICONEDITOR.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/9/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 45K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the HyperCard IIgs Icon Editor stack from
Apple. The Icon Editor allows you to use HyperCard's paint tools to
create your own icons for use in your own stacks, or in other programs.
File # 3899 HCGS.ICONS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 1K (d/l time approx. 6 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the Finder icon file and File Type Descriptor
file for HyperCard IIgs 1.1 from Apple Computer. This is necessary if
you are using System 5.0.4 only. The icon file expects the HyperCard
IIgs folder to be named "HyperCardIIGS" and be at the root level of your
boot volume; you'll have to edit the icon file if this is not the case
on your system. These files are superceded by HyperCard's rBundle
resources under System 6.
File # 3898 HCGSHLPFILE.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 407K (d/l time approx. 31 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the HyperCard IIgs "help" stacks -- the "Help"
stack and the "HyperTalkHelp" stack.
File # 3895 CALENDAR.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 15K (d/l time approx. 1 minutes 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the HyperCard IIgs "calendar" stack from Apple.
It includes an appointment calendar, a "to-do" list and links to the
addresses and home stacks. Since it's fully modifiable, you can build
your own personal information manager and this is a great starter!
File # 3894 BUTTONIDEAS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 91K (d/l time approx. 8 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the "ButtonIdeas" stack from Apple.
ButtonIdeas contains hundreds of buttons you can use in your own stacks
for applications, navigation, help, information, switches and other
goodies. The stack includes information on how to copy buttons and ideas
for what to do with your buttons.
File # 3893 BIRDS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 89K (d/l time approx. 6 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the HyperCard IIgs "Birds" stack from Apple.
This stack contains pictures and information about seven kinds of birds,
along with sounds of their calls.
File # 3892 ARTIDEAS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 143K (d/l time approx. 11 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the "ArtIdeas" stack from Apple. This stack
contains hundreds of pieces of clip art you can use in your own stack,
organized by twelve different themes and also searchable!
File # 3891 ADDRESSES.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.HELP
About 14K (d/l time approx. 1 minutes 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the "Addresses" stack from Apple. It allows
you to enter name and address information for an unlimited number of
people (one per card), sort their information, print reports and dial
phone numbers for them through a speaker or modem. It also links to the
Calendar stack. You can enter notes for each person as well.
>>> A2U course: HyperTalk Tutor 101 <<<
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File #3929 A2U.HYPERTLK.BXY LESSON 1 (GS)
Uploaded on 2/17/94 by A2.HNAGTIME
About 67K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes @ 2400 baud)
Course and lesson #1 stacks for the HyperTalk/HyperCard course in
A2Pro. The course stack is necessary to launch all lessons for this
HyperTalk course. Shrunk with GS-Shrinkit. All stacks should be placed
in the same folder.
File #3944 HYPERTALK TUTOR 101 L2 (GS)
Uploaded on 2/24/94 by A2U.PROF1
About 51K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This is Lesson 2 of the HyperTalk Tutor 101 Course. Both the lesson
and install stacks should be decompressed into the same folder as the
course stack and then the install stack should be run to update the
Table of Contents for the course. After the install stack is done
updating it is no longer needed.
>>> RTC Transcripts <<<
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File #3932 RTC.SPLAT.TXT (GS)
Uploaded on 2/18/94 by A2PRO.GELAMP
About 16K (d/l time approx. 1 minute 36 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This is the official A2Pro RTC transcript for the Real Time
Conference held with Mike Hackett and Jawaid Bayzar of Procyon, Inc. in
regard to Procyon's Splat! debugger for the Apple IIGS. This is a text
file that may be downloaded or <L>isted.
File # 3890 RTC.HYPLOGO.TXT (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2PRO.GELAMP
About 16K (d/l time approx. 1 minute 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This is the official A2Pro RTC transcript for the HyperLogo RTC held
with Mike Westerfield of The Byte Works, Inc. Mike talked about and
fielded questions regarding the HyperLogo language for HyperStudio. This
is a text file that may be downloaded or <L>isted.
>>> 8/16-Central <<<
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File # 3883 ESC.TOUR.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/5/94 by K.FLYNN
About 29K (d/l time approx. 2 minutes 54 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This file contains the full text of Your Tour of 8/16-Central, a set
of guided tours of every issue of 8/16-Central magazine. If you have
been following the ongoing installments in Category 1, Topic 23 of
A2Pro, then you have seen everything in this file. Enjoy!
>>> Sample resource definitions <<<
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File # 3888 FND.RRECT.BNY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/8/94 by A2.LUNATIC
About 4K (d/l time approx. 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This is a de-rez of Finder's rRectList, with LOTS of added equates
and comments, allowing you to easily customize several parts of your
Finder, including: Default window positions, folder colour, comma
character, preferences, quit setting, Trash icon position, trash window
position, clipboard window position, and desktop pattern. (Note: The
quit settings default doesn't work under System 6.0, and the clipboard
window position MAY not work under System 6.0.1, since Finder no longer
creates its own clipboard -- I haven't actually bothered to try that one
under 6.0.1.) This is an unshrunk source code file with a Binary II
wrapper (it's so small that using ShrinkIt on it isn't worth it).
File # 3880 RBUNDLEDEMO.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/3/94 by SOFTDISK.INC
About 4K (d/l time approx. 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Recently I was asked to supply a submitter with sample code for an
rBundle -- this is the result. The enclosed Rez demonstrates an rBundle
with three oneDocs (application, help system and document). It's
decently commented and gets the job done.
>>> Sample Source Code <<<
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File # 3870 W6.SRC.V2.4.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 1/29/94 by KEN.GAGNE
About 106K (d/l time approx. 10 minutes 36 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Source code for Warp Six BBS public domain version 2.4. Requires
Merlin 16 or Merlin 16+ to assemble. Includes XModem send/receive, YModem
send, and IIgs modem port driver written in assembly language that can
keep up with XModem 4K uploads at 19200 bps with LAPM and hardware
handshaking and supports up to 38400 bps. Written by Jim Ferr, for the
public domain. Released November 23th, 1993.
>>> AppleWorks <<<
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File #3924 BIG402D.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/16/94 by BRANDT
About 126K (d/l time approx. 12 minutes 36 seconds @ 2400 baud)
These are all of the files needed to covert AW 4.01 to 4.02. As well
as the MAKE402 patcher, the TimeOut Paint docs and various updated sample
files are included.
File # 3879 FILEFORM.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/3/94 by BRANDT
About 22K (d/l time approx. 2 minutes 12 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the file formats for AppleWorks 4.
>>> Apple Assembly Line <<<
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File # 3863 AAL.SEP.87.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 1/24/94 by M.DEATHERAGE
About 51K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes 6 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the files and source code from Volume 7,
Issue 12 of the Apple Assembly Line magazine created and published by Bob
Sander-Cederlof (September 1987). THIS FILE IS AN A2PRO EXCLUSIVE; IT
MAY NOT BE UPLOADED ELSEWHERE. See the 'Read.Me' file enclosed in the
archive for details. This issue contains articles on fast circle
drawing, some IIgs demonstration programs, a warning about JMP on the
65816, the classic 'eight queens' puzzle, nifty sonic signals and the
first look at Apple's eventually-doomed GSBASIC language by John Arkley.
File # 3862 AAL.SEP.86.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 1/24/94 by M.DEATHERAGE
About 40K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes @ 2400 baud)
This archive contains the files and source code from Volume 6, Issue
12 of the Apple Assembly Line magazine created and published by Bob
Sander-Cederlof (September 1986). This issue contains articles on a
short symbol table listing, even yet more on DOS 3.3 and BRUN, S-C
assembler stuff, MLI calls and the monitor 'L' command, the other
integer square root and some thoughts on the ProDOS bit map.
>>> Shell Utilities <<<
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File # 3875 MIDI2GS.1.0.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/1/94 by D.TRIBBY
About 7K (d/l time approx. 42 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Midi2gs is a shell interface to the MIDI Surgeon program, which was
published in the Jan/Feb 1994 issue of GS+ magazine. If you haven't
purchased that issue, this code will do you no good. But if you have the
MIDI Surgeon code, these routines allow you to recompile its code as a
non-desktop program under the GNO or ORCA shells on the Apple IIGS, or
under various shells available on UNIX. (I have compiled and run it on
an HP 9000/700.) usage: midi2gs [-v] [-h] [midifile] [seqfile] Archive
packed with GSHK. Written by Dave Tribby.
File # 3861 SYNTHFL.1.5.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/24/94 by D.TRIBBY
About 55K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Synthfile version 1.5, a program designed to be run under the ORCA or
GNO shell, prints a description of the contents of MIDI Synth sequence,
wave, and instrument files and will also optionally play the sequence
files. Complete ORCA/C source code is provided, with enough comments so
a programmer can learn the "secrets" of using the MIDI Synth toolset.
This version adds options to read instrument files from a separate
directory, to play songs in random order, and to loop back through the
songs when done. Freeware by Dave Tribby. Packed with GS Shrinkit.
>>> GNO/ME <<<
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File #3946 SCPP1.1.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/24/94 by B.TAO
About 102K (d/l time approx. 10 minutes 12 seconds @ 2400 baud)
A selective C preprocessor. It will only interpret directives
that it is told to interpret. This makes scpp useful for making source
files easier to read by removing unnecessary code (such as that for
other architectures). Version 1.1, requires GNO 2.x.
File # 3887 DRWM1.10B21.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/7/94 by B.TAO
About 48K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 48 seconds @ 2400 baud)
The Davius Rex Window Manager for GNO brings a convenient desktop
interface for GNO users who want to access their NDA's and CDev's without
having to start up the Finder. Version 1.10b21 adds a drwmrc file to
automatically open a place NDA's on startup, plus a better root menu
system. Written by David J. Roberts.
File # 3873 STTY.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/30/94 by PROCYON.INC
About 16K (d/l time approx. 1 minute 36 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This is a new version of the stty utility for GNO. This version
supports printing the current terminal parameter settings if no command
line arguments are specified.
File # 3872 SUM.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/30/94 by PROCYON.INC
About 10K (d/l time approx. 1 minute @ 2400 baud)
"Sum" generates a checksum of files or of stdin, or combinations
thereof. This is a pretty straight port of a standard Unix util.
File # 3858 DMAKE.PS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 71K (d/l time approx. 7 minutes 6 seconds @ 2400 baud)
PostScript version (landscape) of the dmake man page. See also
DMAKE0.43B.BXY in this library.
File # 3857 DMAKE0.43B.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 152K (d/l time approx. 15 minutes 12 seconds @ 2400 baud)
First public release of dmake, a Unix-ish make program. It automates
the compilation based on source file dependancies. The manual page is
included, and a PostScript version is available as DMAKE.PS.BXY in this
library. Ported by G. Devin Reade.
File # 3856 FIXKERN204.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 3K (d/l time approx. 18 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This patch fixes a bug in the GNO 2.0.4 kernel where memory could
be corrupted under certain conditions. Readme file is included in
the archive. Written by Nathan Mates.
File # 3855 XNDAS1.00.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 32K (d/l time approx. 3 minutes 12 seconds @ 2400 baud)
XLoad, Load, XBiff, and eSuspend require GNO/ME v2.0.x or greater to
operate. They might work with earlier versions, but have not been tested
with them. XLoad also requires uptimed 1.1 to operate properly (see
UPTIME1.10.BXY in this library). This is a series of NDAs which mimic
the X Windows utilities of the same name. Man pages are included.
Written by James Brookes.
File # 3854 UPTIME1.10.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 21K (d/l time approx. 2 minutes 6 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This update to uptime and uptimed implements a new messaging scheme
that better handles concurrent requests for information from the uptimed
daemon. It is required for the use of the XLoad and Load NDAs (see
XNDAS1.00.BXY in this library). Written by James Brookes.
File # 3853 REMINDERS.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 31K (d/l time approx. 3 minutes 6 seconds @ 2400 baud)
"Alarm" runs in the background and alerts you with several beeps and
an optional message to stdout when a specified time interval has elapsed,
or when a specific time has arrived. "Calendar" scans your ~/calendar
file for entries dated for the current day. Source code and man pages
included. Written by Christopher Neufeld.
File # 3852 MULTIUSER.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 153K (d/l time approx. 15 minutes 18 seconds @ 2400 baud)
This is init 2.0 and the accompanying multi-user utilities (init,
initd, getty, login, date, sendmail, uname and who). Binaries, config
files, documentation and man pages are included. Source code will be
released in the future. Written by Phil Vandry.
>>> comp.sys.apple2 <<<
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File #3952 CSA2PROG.09.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/25/94 by B.TAO
About 60K (d/l time approx. 6 minutes @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.programmer Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Feb. 12, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 72 messages):
o 16-bit divide in 6502
o Call differences betwen systems
o Is rez compiler buggy?
o reserving memory under ProDOS 8 using the memory manager
o System-Level Cursor Info, Please
o XCMDS & RTLs
File #3951 CS2GNO.09.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/25/94 by B.TAO
About 50K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.gno Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Feb. 12, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 54 messages):
o dialing out and dialing in.
o Gno with Finder...hmmmmm
o UUCP Polling under GNO
File #3950 CS2SUBJ.09.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/25-94 by B.TAO
About 8K (d/l time approx. 48 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Subject listing for the comp.sys.apple2, csa2.comm,
csa2.marketplace, csa2.gno and csa2.programmer digests
for the week ending Feb. 12, 1994.
File #3935 CSA2PROG.08.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/18/94 by B.TAO
About 28K (d/l time approx. 2 minutes 48 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.programmer Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Feb. 5, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 37 messages):
o 16-bit divide in 6502
o Help with HyperC
o how to get info from Window Record?
o Quickdraw II to Screen
File #3934 CSA2GNO.08.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/18/94 by B.TAO
About 34K (d/l time approx. 3 minutes 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.gno Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Feb. 5, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 56 messages):
o login problem
o remote login
o GNO startup procedures
File #3933 CSA2SUBJ.08.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/18/94 by B.TAO
About 5K (d/l time approx. 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Subject listing for the comp.sys.apple2, csa2.comm,
csa2.marketplace, csa2.gno and csa2.programmer digests
for the week ending Feb. 5, 1994.
File # 3886 CSA2PROG.07.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/7/94 by B.TAO
About 43K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 18 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.programmer Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Jan. 29, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 54 messages):
o How to use occ?
o HyperCard XCMDs and Orca/C 2.0
o Significance of hex $EE
o Using SHR direct Access from GSOS
o Widget Help: spin boxes
File # 3885 CSA2GNO.07.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/7/94 by B.TAO
About 40K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.gno Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Jan. 29, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 58 messages):
o A list of 5 GNO/ME related bugs...
o Fileport
o GNO New User General Questions
o init 5 crashing the machine
File # 3884 CSA2SUBJ.07.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/7/94 by B.TAO
About 6K (d/l time approx. 36 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Subject listing for the comp.sys.apple2, csa2.comm,
csa2.marketplace, csa2.gno and csa2.programmer digests
for the week ending Jan. 29, 1994.
File #3851 CSA2PROG.06.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 26K (d/l time approx. 2 minutes 36 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.programmer Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Jan. 22, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 29 messages):
o For those wanting Orca-compatible Gno programs.
o Using SHR direct Access from GSOS
o WANTED: APW or GS info
o ZBasic users
File # 3850 CSA2GNO.06.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 40K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes @ 2400 baud)
Digest of messages from the comp.sys.apple2.gno Usenet
newsgroup, for the week ending Jan. 22, 1994. This week's
highlights (total of 51 messages):
o A few Questions about GNO
o CDA/GNO/busy flag problem
o namespace problem?
o New Multiuser package
File # 3849 CSA2SUBJ.06.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 1/23/94 by B.TAO
About 4K (d/l time approx. 24 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Subject listing for the comp.sys.apple2, csa2.comm,
csa2.marketplace, csa2.gno and csa2.programmer digests
for the week ending Jan. 22, 1994.
>>> Assemblers/Compilers <<<
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File #3947 LISA3.4D1.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/24/94 by B.TAO
About 58K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes 48 seconds @ 2400 baud)
The complete set of files required to run the LISA assembler under
the ANIX shell are contained in this file and in LISA3.4.D2.BXY (also in
this library). Files in this B2 file are: ANIX.SYSTEM, DS, LISA.64K,
LISAC02.64K, LISAC802.64K, and SETUP.LISA64K.
File #3948 LISA.3.4.D2.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/24/94 by B.TAO
About 105K (d/l time approx. 10 minutes 30 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Contains all of the configuration and installation files necessary
to implement LISA and the ALE editor. Files in this B2 file are:
LISA.TMPL, LISAC02.TMPL, LISAC802.TMPL, ALE.TMPL, ALEC02.TMPL,
ALEC802.TMPL, SETUP.LISA and ANIX.EQUATES. Run the SETUP.LISA program
to create your own version of LISA and/or ALE.
File #3945 XLISP2.1F.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/24/94 by B.TAO
About 750K (d/l time approx. 75 minutes @ 2400 baud)
XLISP Plus is a port of the LISP language to the Apple IIGS.
Requires a shell (tested under GNO and ORCA; should work with Prosel-16
and ECP/16). Includes full documentation and sample source code.
Ported by Stephen Voss.
>>> ResLin <<<
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File #3922 RESLIN.BXY V0.44 (GS)
Uploaded on 2/16/94 by RICHARD.B
About 72K (d/l time approx. 7 minutes 12 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Allows you to manipulate resource forks. This small update allows
ResLin Extras to convert Macintosh resources if they wish.
This should have been in d0.43, but it got left out accidentally.
>>> Miscellaneous <<<
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File #3939 ZAKS.MPW2GS.SIT (GS)
Uploaded on 2/22/94 by BYAN.ZAK
About 43K (d/l time approx. 4 minutes 18 seconds @ 2400 baud)
A newer version of SourceMenu, a better MarkIt, a Comment script that
works with AsmIIGS source files (.aii), my UserStartUp script so you can
see how I customize my menus. I think there is more, but I can't
remember. Oh yeah, my ORCAToMPW script for converting source code,
SmartMacros and PowerTools (the last two are macros :) Since this is a
Macintosh item, it is archived with StuffIt Lite
File #3938 A2PNDX9402T.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/21/94 by A2.BILL
About 11K (d/l time approx. 1 minute 6 seconds @ 2400 baud)
An index of A2Pro RT categories and topics as of February 21, 1994,
in plain ASCII text (TXT) form. Packed with ShrinkIt GS v1.1.
File #3937 A2PNDEX9402D.BXY (ALL)
Uploaded on 2/21/94 by A2.BILL
About 12K (d/l time approx. 1 minute 12 seconds @ 2400 baud)
An index of A2Pro RT categories and topics as of February 21, 1994,
in AppleWorks database (ADB) form. Packed with ShrinkIt GS v1.1.
File #3930 EFAX.BXY (GS)
Uploaded on 2/18/94 by D.BROWN109
About 57K (d/l time approx. 5 minutes 42 seconds @ 2400 baud)
Efax 0.5a is a Unix-based C program which will take a t.4 fax image
and handle the transmission protocols of sending it through a Class 2
Fax/modem. This archive contains the source code. Efax is protected by
the GNU Public License.
[EOA]
[RTC]//////////////////////////
RTC WATCH /
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Bits and Pieces from A2Pro Real Time Conferences
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By Tim Buchheim
[T.BUCHHEIM]
>> Off-screen GrafPorts <<
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<M.POTTER4> I have a question about quickdraw.
I'm still not getting how to write to memory instead of the
screen.
<A2PRO.HELP> All you do is create a GrafPort (with OpenPort) and specify
off-screen coordinates.
Then, just write to it like you would any other port. (ie
use drawing tool calls, or whatever you want).
<M.POTTER4> Then I can use the Grafport handle(?) to find the memory
block used so I can fax encode the pixel map there?
<A2PRO.HELP> No. Use the ptrToPixImage from the LocInfo subfield within
the GrafPort itself.
(see page 16-277 of TBR II for more info).
<M.DEATHERAGE> Read Apple IIgs Technical Note #80 for the primer in drawing
offscreen.
<A2PRO.HELP> Which is available in the A2Pro library if you don't already
have a copy, of course. :)
<M.POTTER4> Sloanie and Matt, thanks, especially for the technote #
(I have it on disk)
>> GS/OS OptionLists <<
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<A2PRO.HELP> Will GetFileInfo return a bufferTooSmall if the buffer for
the optionList is too small? The documentation isn't
particularly clear (it's not listed as a possible error).
<M.DEATHERAGE> Yes, it will. Unless the size is 3 or smaller, in which
case it doesn't try to return the optionList at all.
<A2PRO.HELP> OK. I figured that was why I was getting that error. The
strange thing is that I'm using a buffer of $2E bytes,
which should be enough, I thought. (using ProDOS). AND...
if I STEP through the code in GSBug, it works fine. If I
let it go by itself, I get an error.
<M.DEATHERAGE> You'll get bigger optionLists than that if HFS info is in
the ProDOS optionList.
<A2PRO.HELP> I can't imagine why there'd be any HFS info. It's the Time
Control Panel. Will it fill the buffer to the size I
provide, or do I need to make the call again?
<M.DEATHERAGE> I don't know off the top of my head, Sloanie. If you don't
care, pass nil.
<A2PRO.HELP> But I do care. You told me to get the fileSysID from the
OptionList. :)
<M.DEATHERAGE> I think it does fill in as much of it as will fit, but
you'll have to try it to be sure.
<A2PRO.HELP> I tried to look and see if it was filling it. But, when I
did, the Control Panels NDA saw one of the keypresses,
sending it back through my code, which promptly called
SysFailMgr, since a toolbreak on SysFailMgr won't work if
GSBug is already active.
re-entrancy is fun. :)
<M.DEATHERAGE> Sloanie, use the Exerciser. Takes about 20 seconds, no
pain.
<A2PRO.HELP> Ahh... good call. :) (For some reason these things don't
occur to me. Don't bother saying it, Matt. ;)
<M.DEATHERAGE> :)
>> Scrolling the SHR screen <<
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<R.NIELSON1> Nate.. how'd you do that awesome scroll in the intro to
Pensate? I can't get over how smooth it is! Wow!
<A2PRO.GELAMP> Each line is compiled as a code segment.
It caches frequently used values and pushes them onto the
shadow screen with PHA/PHX/PHY, PEA is used for the rest.
So I have about 140 little code segments, one for each line.
(I'm talking about the bottom part)
The mountains are just scrolled with a normal PEI scroll.
The stars are scrolled with a routine that draws just the
dots and then erases them, it isn't really a scroll.
(so much empty space, it was faster just to draw/erase)
<R.NIELSON1> so the dots are moved a pixel at a time.. same as the scroll
<A2PRO.GELAMP> Vertically, yes.
<R.NIELSON1> Still.. I have no clue how you got those AWESOME digitized
pictures for the background... phew especially the
background behind the PENSATE title!!
<A2PRO.GELAMP> The agate and marble tiles were rendered with Persistence of
Vision.
<R.NIELSON1> isn't that an IBM windows program?
<A2PRO.GELAMP> Nope, general purpose rendering program, there are versions for
the PC, UNIX, Mac...the concrete side panel was scanned and
touched up with PhotoShop
>> RTC Humor <<
"""""""""""""""
<K.GRAY11> Sloanie, could you possibly find me a control algorithm
for the robot I'm working on :)
<A2PRO.HELP> Kelly: Uh. I don't think so. :)
<K.GRAY11> It was worth a try.
<A2PRO.GELAMP> IF ROBOTIQ > 180 THEN BRANCH TO DOSELFCONSCI
<A2PRO.HELP> How about:
6x-4y+18z-41a+3=mplxrvn; if v> 118 then die else say "hello"
<T.BUCHHEIM> IF ROBOTIQ > CREATORIQ THEN... :)
<K.GRAY11> IF ROBOT IQ > CREATOR IQ THEN ROBOT DOES ALL PROGRAMMING
ASSIGNMENTS
<A2PRO.HELP> ELSE ROBOT DOES ALL PROGRAMMING ASSIGNMENTS ANYHOW.
[EOA]
[OFF]///////////////////////////////
OFF THE DEEP END /
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Return of the Top 10 List
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By Nate Trost
[A2PRO.GELAMP]
>>> Top 10 Signs You're Spending Too Much Time With HyperCard IIGS <<<
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
10. You got hungry, created a pizza stack and tried to eat it
9. When the phone rings a little voice inside your head says:
"on phoneUp...."
8. You walk out to your car in the morning and look for the
Script... button
7. You can't stop trying to click on Tom Brokaw's head during
the evening news.
6. When picking out new wallpaper for your computer room, you
choose the pattern that looks like lots of 3"5"s
5. You walk in slow motion
4. After 20 hours of work, you finish digitizing and retouching
a picture of your house for the PERFECT Home stack icon
3. When a relative dies, you don't go to the funeral but simply
delete their card in your Family Album stack
2. Your own personal 'Button Ideas' stack fills a four
gigabyte hard drive
1. You start stalking HangTime
[EOA]
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