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August 2003
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++ Editor's Notes
++ The Global Dreaming News
Events - Updates - Reviews - More
From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com
++ Cover Artist's Statement
Laura N. Atkinson
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucid Dreaming For Precognitive Information
with Robert Waggoner and Survey Results
on Lucid Dream Interests
By Lucy Gillis
++ Article: Gestalt Dialogue For a Flying Dream
Linda Lane Magallón
++ Column: A View from the Bridge
Invitation from the World Dreams Peace Bridge
By Jean Campbell & Explora
++ Newsletter: The Waves: 04. Journey to Mt. Shasta
Spectral Moon (May 30 to June 26, 2003)
By Nick Cumbo
++ Article: Archetypal Psychology and Dreamwork
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Volume #670 - # 675
With Editors Elizabeth Westlake and Harry Bosma
D E A D L I N E :
August 20 deadline for September 2003 submissions
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Editor's Notes
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Welcome to the August 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal
to dreams and dreaming online.
If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the
resources you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
or if you are interested in sharing dreams for world peace, please
join the World Dreams Peace Bridge
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
Many of us are still in recovery from the Dream conference in
Berkeley, but I will try to give some sense of the events as I
can. This conference marked and celebrated the 50th Anniversary of
R.E.M. and the 20th Anniversary of the Association for the Study of
Dreams. Of more than some historical importance, William Dement
of Sleep and Dream research fame was there, as
well as nearly 300 dreamworkers, scientist, clinicians,
anthropologists and researchers attended. There were usually four
to six events going at any one time, plus a bookstore and plenty
of space to talk and discuss dreams.
I noticed two distinct themes that were different than usual.
The first was the switch of emphasis of Jungian to Post-Jungian
lectures. Usually there are only a couple of Post-Jungian
lectures, but they seemed to dominate the conference this year.
Since a lot of people are not clear about the differences between
Jungian and the Archetypal schools of psychology, I have included
an article on this.
The other major theme was a kind of post 9-11 concern about how
dreams and attention to dreams and dreamwork can offer the culture
a remedy to the manic, fast paced and reality torn fabric of
society. Some lecturers set aside their official presentations
and addressed this issue directly with the audience, and
everywhere the topic came up over and over. Next issue I talk
more about dreams and simulation society. If you have articles and
comments on this topic, send them in.
Anyway, Electric Dreams has been keeping up with most of the
changes in dreams and dreamwork presented at the conference, and
we will continue to offer articles keeping you up to date
throughout the year.
If missed the conference this year, or if you just didn't get
enough, there is an online conference planned for late September.
Watch the ASD website for details www.ASDreams.org
Lucy Gillis offers Electric Dreams a selection each month from her
_Lucid Dream Exchange_. This issue there are two selections. The
first is a summary of the survey on what keeps lucid dreamers
interested in lucid dreaming. The section selection is from Robert
Waggoner, on Lucid Dreaming for Precognitive Information where he
explores the more and less active aspects of these types of
dreams.
Linda Magallón writes about her use of Gestalt Dialogue
techniques for self inquiry when dream flying. By personalizing
the parts of oneself and talking with these parts, we allow our
fragmented and often missed souls a chance for expression and
play. Be sure to read "Gestalt Dialogue For a Flying Dream."
Jean Campbell and Explora bring you up to date on al the projects
of the international dreaming and outreach group World Dreams
Peace Bridge (WDPB). If you have been wondering how to use your
dreams for world peace, this group is not to be missed. Be sure
to stop by the new area, the Reservoir http://tinyurl.com/i784
Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of
the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at
Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from
around the globe, collaborating in dreaming adventures, and
'dreaming with and for the earth itself.' This month, The Waves
04 travels to Mt. Shasta and presents magical and mutual dreaming
tours, including an underground cave system.
Whale songs, gardens with beds, the secrets of DNA. What can this
be besides the Electric Dreams section on DREAMS! The Dream
Section is beautifully edited by Elizabeth Westlake [with the help
of Harry Bosma's editor program].
If you have dreams you want published, don't send them to
Elizabeth directly, but rather enter them in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to:
dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to
stop by one of the many resources:
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http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
NEW from Nick Cumbo, Electric Dreams in PDF:
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/
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The cover this month is from Laura Atkinson
If you have more stories about the ASD conference, send them to me
before the Aug 13th deadline. rcwilk@dreamgate.com
-Richard Wilkerson
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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S
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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
web@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/
This Month's Features:
NEWS
-- Dream Tending Seminar and Extended Training
-- Berkeley Dream Group
-- Symposium on Dream Science
-- The Royal Road Dream Seminars for Professionals
-- Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure
-- Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
-- Dreamwork with Animal Spirits
-- On the Wings of Spirit
-- PSI Dreaming Conference 2003
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RESEARCH & REQUESTS
-- Shamanic Dreaming
-- Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure
-- Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
-- On The Wings of Spirit; Shamanism, Intuition and Dreams.
WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
-- Dream GriGri comics
-- Dreams and reoccurrence of feelings
DREAM CALENDAR
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>>>> Dream Tending Seminar and Extended Training
Dream Tending Seminar: Befriending the archetypal Imagination
with Dr. Stephen Aizenstat, August 22-24, 2003. Taking place at
La Casa de Maria Ladera Center, a retreat campus in the Santa
Barbara foothills overlooking the Pacific Ocean.
DreamTending Six-Month Professional Training,Jan-Jun 2004
Dr. Aizenstat will again offer professional traincing in
DreamTending in 2004. The course combines content-oriented
instruction in dream theory, dream methodology, and clinical
applications. It features experiential work and practice of
clinical skills. Much of the learning, however, takes place in a
third realm: a dimension of dream life that is sensitive to
aesthetic perceiving, poetic imagining, and the art of
not_knowing. this small-group seminar series consists of six,
three-day weekend sessions (one each month, January through June,
2004). This training program is for clinicians and lay persons who
have experience in dreamwork, particularly those who have
participated in Dr. Aizenstat's introductory DreamTending
Workshops. for a detailed description of the curriculum, please
request a DreamTending 2004 brochure.
Pacifica Graduate Institute
Public Programs
249 Lambert Road, Carpinteria, CA 93013
TEL: 805/969-5796
Email public programs@pacifica.com
www.pacifica.com
>>> Berkeley Dream Group led by David Jenkins, Ph.D.
David's seminars were a big hit at the 2003 International
conference for the Association for the Study of Dreams. But if you
missed him there, you can still catch his work in downtown
Berkeley, CA near BART. Cost: First class if free. Email
davidj@practicaldreamwork.com or call 510-644-2369
www.practicaldreamwork.com
>>>> Symposium on Dream Science
The Science of Dreams and the Dream of Science -- a symposium of
the International Veinnese Academy of Holistic Medicine and the
Institute of Consciousness and Dream Research, Vienna
October 23-26, 2003. Including Gieslher Guttmann, William Dement,
Harry Fiss, Brigitte Holzinger, Stephen LaBerge, Allan Hobson,
Gerard Klosch, Roseanne Armitage, Eric Nofzinger, Lia Hobson and
many more. www.REM50.at For more information, contact Dr. Brigitte
Holzinger, Institut fur Bewubstseins und Traumforschung,
Canongasse 13, A- 1180 Wien, brigitte.holzinger@chello.at
>>> The Royal Road Dream Seminars for Professionals
At Fox Commons in Berkeley, CA
September: Mill Mellick
The Art of Dreaming
October-November (Wednesdays 12-2) Barbar McSwain
The Use of Dreams in Therapy and Analysis
December John Beebe
Nightmares, Night Terrors and "Bad Dreams"
Registration
510-845-1767
>>>Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
New Dream Newsletter Kat Peters-Midland. Celebrate dreams and
dreaming, with this sharp new (and FREE) newsletter on dreamwork.
Submissions to RMDJournal@yahoo.com
or send to RMDJ
C/o Kat Peters-Midland
2519 Sourth Shields
Suite 1k PMB 193
Fort Collins, Colorado 80526
>>> Dreamwork with Animal Spirits
Animal Dreams and Visions
Connecting with the wisdom of the animals through shamanic
practices can open and deepen our communication with the animals
in our dreams andin ordinary reality. Learn how to directly
communicate with the animal spirits to receive guidance, healing
and empowerment. This circle is open to all levels of experience.
Drums and rattles are provied, and you may bring your own. You are
also welcome to bring objects for the altar. Bring a
pillow/blanket for the floor and chairs are available. Wheelchair
accessible. Cost $15 per circle (meeting) Led by Laurie Bates, MA
MFT. Saturday, August 16, 2003, 6:30 - 9pm at Changemakers Books
and Gifts for Women
6536 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, 5 blocks south of Ashby, 510-528-
0304, animalway@aol.com, www.animalway.com
>>> On The Wings of Spirit; Shamanism, Intuition and Dreams.
A full day workshop to be held on dreams at the Still Point
Interfaith Retreat Center in Stillwater, New York on Saturday
September 27th. For more information please see our website at:
www.timesunion.com/communities/dreamweaving Or contact Ed
Bonapartian at ebonapar@nycap.rr.com if you have any questions.
>>> PSI Dreaming Conference 2003
ASD has tentatively scheduled the PsiDreaming 2003 Conference to
take place from Sunday, September 21, through Sunday October 5,
2003. The conference will then become a read only archive for an
additional two weeks for participants (through October 19th,
2003). For more information, check for updated information on the
homepage of the ASD Website ( http://www.asdreams.org/index.htm ),
or contact Dr. Ed Kellogg, the PsiberDreaming 2003 Conference
facilitator, at alef1@msn.com
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>>> Research Project on Shamanic Dreaming
Join a cutting-edge research project: Shamanic Journey Access of
Others' Dreams, Autumn-Winter 2003-2004
Focus on psycho-spiritual development and transformation through
access to multiple states of consciousness and exceptional human
experiences.
1. Learn through your own perspective, abut the experiences and
insights your incubated dream brings your"
2. Learn about Shamanic journeys without prior conscious
knowledge concerning your dream question
3. Receive a summary of patterns and conclusions drawn from the
overall research, combining data from all the participants.
For more information, contact Gilbert Ave, Menlo Park, CA
650-326-5314
>>> Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure
With Craig Webb, August 10-17, 2003
Imagine paddling across a sheet of sparkling liquid diamond by
day, tanning peacefully to a gently dip-an-swing paddling rhythm.
Them imagine the wilderness laughter call of loons at sunset and
the welcome, gentle wafting aroma of campfire sir-fry, while you
discover, by night, how to navigate the tandem inner world of
dreams. This experience begins Sunday night with dinner at the
Edge, followed by a pre-trip social to meet and share with Craig
and your fellow travelers. Following a restful night in the lodge
or one of our forest cabins, wake to a nourishing buffet breakfast
before packing our canoes and heading into Algonquin Park to
dream. All inclusive cost $810 CAN (US $55:) Contact Northern
Edge Algonquin for more info
800-953-3343
www.algonquincanada.com
edge@algonquincanada.com
>>>Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
New Dream Newsletter Kat Peters-Midland. Celebrate dreams and
dreaming, with this sharp new (and FREE) newsletter on dreamwork.
Submissions to RMDJournal@yahoo.com
or send to RMDJ
C/o Kat Peters-Midland
2519 Sourth Shields
Suite 1k PMB 193
Fort Collins, Colorado 80526
>>> On The Wings of Spirit; Shamanism, Intuition and Dreams.
A full day workshop to be held on dreams at the Still Point
Interfaith Retreat Center in Stillwater, New York on Saturday
September 27th. For more information please see our website at:
www.timesunion.com/communities/dreamweaving Or contact Ed
Bonapartian at ebonapar@nycap.rr.com if you have any questions.
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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with
others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the
word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a
public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or
her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes to
the links page to us
>>> Dream GriGri comics
http://www.grigri.tv/
This unusual website describes itself as a "graphical and
narrative web-experience" based around prehistory and
psychoanalysis
>>> Dreams and reoccurrence of feelings
http://www.geocities.com/sellonge/
Dreams and reoccurrence of feelings is a site which presents an
examination of an interpretation method of dreams using the
author's own dreams and experiences and then proposes some
appropriate and original outcomes.
This study includes all of the dreams which have been written for
5 years (i.e. 42 dreams + a lucid one) and justifies the
interesting hypothesis that dreams reflect "preconscious" feelings
from recent life experiences.
Among the proposed conclusions, one can find how this approach can
bring us to methodical investigations concerning the understanding
of the symbolism (the proposed examples concern dreamt-people
including the dreamt-dreamer himself), how it can bring us to the
possibility to make any clear and precise concepts for
psychological field, and even how it can lead us to a particular
presentation in general psychology.
Some examples are given (including a lucid and creative dream),
and the epistemological perspective is not forgotten.
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D R E A M C A L E N D A R
August 2003
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Aug 10-17 in Canada
Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure. www.algonquincanada.com, or
800.953.3343.
Aug 16 in Oakland, CA
Dreamwork with Animal spirits, 6:30-9:30 pm. www.animalway.com
Aug 22-24 in Carpinteria, CA
Dream Tending Seminar with Stephen Aizenstat. Pacifica Graduate
Institute, www.pacifica.com, 805.969.5796
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Cover Artist Statement
Laura Atkinson
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Laura N. Atkinson
sunstarz2001@yahoo.com
http://www.arthatglows.com/
The background behind the image was based on a dream experiment
between myself, and Ilkin (who frequently posts to the ASD
bulletin board and the World Dreams Peace Bridge site.) The
original dream was hers, and I had asked to "paint her dream".
You are welcome to view my notes on it, which can be found:
http://tinyurl.com/i2o6
http://www.arthatglows.com/photo61.htm
From the original silk painting, I took the image and applied the
"neon" effect, create a repetitive reflection of swirling
pattern
in effect, electrifying the image.
Now, whenever I see a sunflower, I think of a person on the other
side of the world, who is also inspired by the beauty of nature.
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
Why do people enjoy lucid dreaming? There are probably as many
answers to that question as there are lucid dreamers. In LDE 27 we
asked readers what it was about lucid dreaming that held their
interest. We received numerous responses ranging from practical
uses to spiritual questing.
According to our readers, most lucid dreamers enjoy the sense of
freedom being lucid brings, the ability to defy the laws of
physics, walk through walls, fly, breathe underwater, etc. Some
use lucid dreaming to rehearse for waking life events, like giving
a speech or practicing a sport. Others enjoy being able to express
themselves freely in the dreamstate, safe from the pressures of
society, where they can let off steam or speak their minds to
those they feel they can't confront in waking life. Still others
of a more metaphysical perspective use lucid dreaming to explore
their own psyche, to visit past lives, or induce self-healing.
Some dreamers are passive, allowing the dream to unfold around
them, while others engage dream characters and manipulate objects,
taking a more active role. Some ask their dream characters to
explain to them what they represent, as an aid in dream
interpretation.
Taking this a step further, some dreamers ask their lucid dream
characters or symbols for clairvoyant or precognitive information.
This is one of many aspects of lucid dreaming that keeps Robert
Waggoner interested in the lucid dream state. In his article,
LUCID DREAMING FOR PRECOGNITIVE INFORMATION, Robert discusses
active and ambient lucid precognitive dreams, detailing some
wonderful personal examples.
Regardless of your beliefs about dream reality, employing lucid
dreams for precognitive clues can be quite interesting and a lot
of fun, as Robert shows below. Give it a try. You may surprise
yourself!
LUCID DREAMING FOR PRECOGNITIVE INFORMATION
(c) 2003 Robert Waggoner
In my experience, there seems to be two types of lucid
precognitive dreams: active and ambient. Active lucid precognitive
dreams are ones in which the lucid dreamer actively engages the
dream objects or characters for a precognitive response. By
contrast, ambient lucid precognitive dreams are ones in which the
lucid dream report contains a precognitive element that was not
actively sought by the dreamer (this being more of a mixture of
lucid dreaming and standard precognitive dreaming). An example of
ambient lucid precognitive dreaming occurred to me in a dream in
which I was being chased by gangsters in a car in my old hometown.
When I passed 17th and Plum, I turned behind the Vickers gas
station and became lucid when I saw a car wash there! In waking
physical reality, there was no car wash there - at least at that
time. Probably five years later, a car wash was built in that
exact same spot. I hadn't lived in that town for 15 years by the
time of the dream.
I remember the first time I tried to have a precognitive lucid
dream in response to a challenge by Linda Magallon. In the
subsequent lucid dream, I was in "like a big stage area for a band
and a dance floor. There are instruments all around, a drummer
behind his drums, chairs, etc. I think, "What should I do? Should
I send energy to disabled people I know?" No, that doesn't
interest me. Then I think, Linda Magallon wants people to
precognate in dreams. But as I think about it, I can't think of
how to precognate! It seems absurd --- How am I supposed to
precognate when I am cognating now (in this dream)?" When I woke,
a bit upset at this mini-philosophical crisis, it was quickly
evident that I needed to project the precognition outward as if
from another source like a character or object in the dream."
As far back as 1986, Ed Kellogg, Ph.D. wrote in the *Dream Network
Bulletin* (vol. 4) about developing a Lucid Dream Incubation
Technique (LDIT) to seek answers to questions. In a lucid dream,
Ed decided that the answer to his important question would appear
on a note when he turned over a silver bowl. The answer on the
dream note was later confirmed. Ed writes "The essential principle
behind this technique involves first finding a medium for the
materialization of the answer (such as a bowl, or closed drawer)
asking the question, waiting a few seconds, and then reading the
materialized answer (after turning over the bowl, or opening the
drawer, etc.) I have found it most important to pick an
appropriate medium in each dream for the LDIT (response)...."
The following are some of my other attempts at precognition in
lucid dreams. As you may notice in these accounts, the
precognitive tasks vary in a qualitative sense. Some of the tasks
came to me spontaneously in the lucid dream - and in that state,
the task seemed a reasonable test. But upon waking, it is easy to
see that the tasks could have been much more stringent and
meaningful. For lucid dreamers who are interested in testing
precognition in lucid dreams, I strongly advise you to compose the
precognitive test in the waking state, so that you will have a
solid test available to you when you become lucid.
April 20-21 1999 "Talking To My Dead Father" --- Lucid Dream.
"The dream scene is basically like a dark stage. Suddenly I see a
golden wood ladder right in front of me, hanging in the air. I can
see the polished wood gleaming and the thin lines on the wood.
Suddenly I see a foot and then another and look up -- I recognize
my dad is coming down the gold ladder. I realize, "Hey, Dad is
dead," and think, "Well, then this is a dream." I am a bit
surprised by his bad haircut, and grin at the absurdity of not
getting a good haircut in the afterdeath state! He looks about 60
years old and very healthy, even though he passed on at 82.
I think that since he's dead, I'll ask him some questions. Then, I
can determine if the information is valid. He tells me that he is
doing fine. Then, reasoning that the deceased should know about
issues around death, I say, "Dad, tell me, when do you think M
will die?" He looks at me and says, "Oh, she will probably die in
2 to 6 years." (In my notes, I have written 'heart' but I can't
recall if he said she'd have heart problems. To the best of my
knowledge, she has never been bothered by heart problems.) I ask
him some other questions. He says something like the coming months
may be challenging, but that the family can make it. I get the
feeling that August will be the most difficult. He also tells me
that I need to be more compassionate and understanding of one
family member. He has some other advice (but upon awakening, this
is all I recall.) I felt very pleased to see him."
As a postscript, I think that about a month later my sister's
place in Kansas was hit by a tornado, and sustained about $30,000
in damages, - no one was home at the time.
Almost two years later, M went to the hospital in March 2001,
complaining of shortness of breath. It took the doctors a few
weeks to diagnose the problem, and they told her she had a heart
problem, in which the muscles of the heart begin to thicken and
can't keep up with the supply of blood, so the blood backs up into
the lungs and creates a shortness of breath. They said her veins
and arteries were very healthy, and prescribed medication to help
her heart. As of today, she is still alive, and her heart problem
is her only serious medical issue (she is 78 years old).
In a lucid dream of Jan. 3-4,00, I had a spontaneous desire to
experiment with precognitive lucid dreaming. I wrote: "After a
while, I see D, and wonder what should I do in this lucid dream.
Recalling some precognitive lucid dreams of D, I step up and ask
him, "When I hear from you next, what will be the first words out
of your mouth to me?" He looks me square in the face and replies,
"Robert, you." I make a note to remember that. Then once again, I
have this incredible surge of sound energy within me - like an
inner explosion that realigns my cells." (I wake up tingling and a
bit shocked.)
Almost five weeks later, the phone rings and my wife answers. She
calls out, "Robert, it's D." I recalled the lucid dream and took
the phone and said "Hello" while I waited for his response. D
replied, "Robert, you are finally there!" - confirming my earlier
lucid dream which predicted the first two words "Robert, you".
In a lucid dream a few years ago, I asked two questions of the
same person; the questions were, "A year from now, will you be
married?" - he responded, "No." Then I asked, "A year from now,
where will you be living?" - he responded, "In London." The
responses given to both lucid dream questions were correct one
year later. At the time of the lucid dream, he had been making
plans to move away from London, and had a serious relationship
that could have led to marriage, but did not.
While traveling on business, I had another lucid dream in which I
again spontaneously made a precognitive dream task. In the lucid
dream, I announced that when I picked up the telephone in the
dream, I would hear from the most important person to talk to me
on the next day. So, lucid, I picked up the phone, and I heard my
wife talking to me very happily. I woke up and wrote the dream
down (a bit disappointed that I had not thought of a more
convincing precognitive task). The next day, as I went to my
meetings and traveled, I had basically forgotten about the lucid
dream, until that evening, when I called my wife and she announced
that she had great news! As I recall, she was being offered some
exciting task in her job as a university administrator.
In this next case, I made a waking decision to become lucid and
attempt to discover precognitively the numbers of the Pick Three
lottery game. This is not a lottery game that I play, and my
attempts to find the exact rules of the game (before the dream)
failed -- so I basically knew that the game was a selection of
three numbers.
May 30-31 5:45 am, "Lucid Lottery" - Lucid Dream
"I am walking along with a radio listening to something. I seem to
be on the 17th street sidewalk near my old elementary school. As I
go along at night, something seems odd - I realize that this is a
dream. I put my hands out in front of me and run down the sidewalk
yelling, "This is a dream, this is a dream!" I can see my hands go
out of focus after about 5 seconds - and I think that I need to be
careful not to lose my visuals.
The stars are very bright and seem to be more numerous than in
waking reality. I think about flying up to the stars, but don't
think it would amount to anything. I put my hands up again and
repeat that this is a dream. I turn right towards my childhood
home, when I see a car with headlights on, turning into Mr.
Metcalf's garage (different than waking reality). I run over
there. The car turns off its headlights.
It occurs to me that I could ask Mr. Metcalf what are the (Pick 3)
numbers for the next Iowa lottery, as another lucid dreamer had
mentioned as a precognitive test. I couldn't quite recall the name
of the lottery game and also the date. As I prepared to ask him
the question, I saw a circular thing in my hand - like a watch
face only with numbers (actually it was like the Wheel of Fortune
on the tv show, in color). I thought, "Is this the answer?" Then
my vision seemed to fall on '8'. I looked again feeling uncertain
but this time saw no numbers, just the wheel. I looked again and
saw an '8'. Then finally I saw a '1'. I thought, "Is it 8-3-1?" I
looked again - but the wheel of numbers would change. For some
reason, '831' seemed like the number of something familiar (which
reminded me of an old lock number on a post office box in college
that was circular shaped like this dream wheel of fortune). Mr.
Metcalf is now out of his car - but he is about 40 years old
(instead of 70 or 80) and so is his wife. I can't get greater
lucidity, feel a bit frustrated and decide to wake up."
Comments: When I woke up, I strongly felt that '8' was one of the
numbers. I wasn't pleased with how the numbers showed up, one at a
time and before I even asked the question formally!! Then I
realized that in the dream when I thought the "next lottery", I
was also thinking that it would be the weekend lottery (though
there is a Weds. drawing and the morning was actually Weds.). So I
felt like it was a bit of a busted play, and my lucidity wasn't
sufficient. I did enjoy the dream's insertion of Mr. Metcalf, who
was an old codger in the neighborhood whose lawn I mowed -- he had
the fortune of having found oil on his land, so was quite wealthy
even though he lived very modestly, except for his car.
In any case, the weekend numbers were 8-0-8! I didn't even realize
that 0 was a choice, having never played the pick three game - but
you can see from the dream report that I recall looking at the
wheel in the dream and seeing no numbers, which could possibly be
considered 0. A liberal interpretation might say that I saw on my
first look, '8', on my second look "nothing, but the circular
wheel"-which is shaped like a '0',- and on my third look, another
'8'. Also, it didn't occur to me prior to the dream and during the
dream that the same number could show up twice, 8-0-8, which is
why I felt '3' seemed more appropriate. I have to say that I was a
bit upset that the numbers showed up before I formally asked the
question.
Finally, I have another lucid dream which is a bit more
clairvoyant or telepathic, than precognitive. In it, I become
lucid, and see a member of a friend's family. I know this person
has a rare physical condition, so lucid, I go up and ask, "Why do
you have this condition?" He responds, "I have it for (this
reason)." This completely shocks me and I wake up to write it
down. To make a long story short, I happened to mention this dream
to my friend. My friend is very surprised by this lucid dream and
tells me that I have uncovered a family secret, and the
information provided in the lucid dream is correct.
While I do not intend to presume the validity of lucid dream
precognition from these small samples, it is certainly suggestive
of the possibility of lucid dream precognition. Other lucid
dreamers have reported instances of lucid dream precognition which
were later confirmed, according to their self reports. In normal
dreaming, there are thousands of reported instances of
precognitive dreaming (while in our private dream journals alone,
many of us could show hundreds of examples).
The value of lucidity however is that the lucid dreamer can direct
the content of the dream towards some specific goal or task, such
as a pre-determined precognitive task, under accepted scientific
protocol. In standard dreams, however, precognition happens
randomly and could not be subject to testing as easily or with
high degrees of certainty. Also, standard precognitive dreams
often are not evident until after the event takes place or they
have symbolic content that is open to interpretation. In the book
*Dreamtime and Dreamwork* edited by Stanley Krippner, Jon Tolaas
has an excellent chapter on the common pitfalls of many reported
psychic dreams from a scientific standpoint. Nonetheless, I am
certain that an experiment could be structured and conducted to
determine the validity of lucid precognitive dreaming.
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Gestalt Dialogue For a Flying Dream
© 2003 Linda Lane Magallón
(Excerpted from "How To Fly")
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How can you do interactive dreamwork when you fly solo? It's not
hard--if you're used to talking with yourself! And no, it's not
crazy making when you start to answer, either. It's just Gestalt
dreamwork.
This kind of dreamwork treats all dream characters and elements of
the dream as "parts of you." So you, your whole self can speak for
each one of them. All you need do is to change roles, like an
actor putting on and doffing different costumes in the dream play.
The trick is to get each role player to speak out. The simplest
way is to start asking questions of your dream symbols and expect
an answer. Then the dialogue proceeds on its own.
Here's an example of gestalt work I did with one of my own dreams.
I gave myself a head start on interpretation by using a very
effective method. I incubated the subject of the dream before I
went to sleep. That way, I'd know the general nature and meaning
of the dream. Try it, especially when you're just beginning to
unlock your dreams or anytime you'd like a boost in ciphering
work.
For this dream, I had asked for assistance with my book work.
First, I wrote down my dream:
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I'm feeling very anxious because I am being pursued by my blonde
dream friend Steve and an older, dark-haired Superman through a
dark corridor lined with nets. We can all fly but I'm trying to
stay ahead and rise above them. I land about two-thirds of the way
up the net and grab onto the meshing to climb the rest of the way.
Superman follows me. At the top I get my first good look at him in
his red, blue and yellow costume. I realize that the pursuit need
not evoke the anxiety I've been feeling, but is more like a
friendly competition, although there is still some tension between
us.
At this point I'm standing at the edge of a hole with a younger
dark-haired male companion. He drops straight down into the pipe-
like darkness, almost to the ground. We are in mental contact and
I "catch" him just before he hits the ground. He levitates a few
inches above it. This is a demonstration to Superman that my
companion and I are superheroic, too.
Up The Nets And Down The Hole, 2/20/89
Then I began a dialogue with dream characters. I could have
written or typed the report, but in this case I used a tape
recorder, then transcribed the script later on.
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Linda: Well, Steve, I haven't talked with you for a long time.
What are you doing?
Steve: I'm running after you. I want to catch up with you.
L: You mean you're lagging behind?
S: I'm not running, I'm flying and so are you.
L: Yes, but that's not the point. We need to get our act together.
S: Can you be supportive of my endeavors?
L: What are your needs?
S: I'm unsure about being before the public.
L: But you are very comely in appearance.
S: It's not my appearance, it's what I have to say: publicizing
myself, who I really am, think and believe. Showing off my
creative side. I want the creative product to be in my control
because I have ideas on how it should look.
L: The reason I'm running away is that I thought you would steal
my ideas, use them for your own purposes and call them your own.
Then I'd have to be "the woman behind the throne" again.
S: The only way they will be your own is to claim them as your
own.
L: Ah! Then you are my old "objective" writer facade, aren't you?
S: Yes, that's right.
L: So you are that Aspect of me which puts himself out so a
certain public will respond, but which now I realize is not the
person I wish to be. And you are partially the hero-who-rescues-
Sleeping-Beauty-and-gleans-all-the-glory mythos.
L: Superman, who are you?
Superman: I'm the old "crime fighting" approach to nightmares and
dreamwork.
L: Why are you pursuing me?
SM: I find you fascinating; I want to get to know you better; I'm
attracted to the fact that you can fly.
L: But so can you and Steve.
SM: Yes, but you are female energy and that's intriguing.
L: A different kind of superhero?
SM: Yes, that's right.
L: Hm. I wonder what kind that is. And what of you, Partner?
Partner: I am the part which is not so sure he can fly, but I'm
willing to go along with you. I trust you and am willing to be
your partner.
L: And what of you, Black Hole?
Black Hole: Instead of the "Valley of Death" or "Valley of
Darkness", I am the one you can go through to get to the other
side. I'm a doorway or well, a pipette to the ground, but
ultimately a Phoenix route to a new universe.
L: And why is my Partner dropping straight down this well to the
ground?
BH: As an act of courage. It's coming from the "top down" and
bringing the "high flying" ideas down to the ground, but not
hurting oneself in the process. Being able to catch oneself, to
levitate if need be.
L: Ah! So for the levitation to take place, the tension has to
come from above!
BH: That's right.
L: I am pulling from a position above. And the reason I got there
was by climbing up the networks...I get it!
I can't face the heroes of my flying dream project until I get on
top of our relationships! The blonde man and Superman were flying
separately; Superman is a self-sufficient hero. I think he is
curious about connective energy; he's trying to figure out how
that works.
My partner and I were cooperating. Together. That's the new
approach I can use. Perhaps I can project a mental bond or a heart
link with my writing? For sure, I can talk about the mutual side
of dreams.
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Although I can talk with both animate and inanimate objects, I
find that dream dialoguing is especially effective when I'm
dealing with specific dream characters. They're more likely to
respond in words. I have conversed with such diverse entities as
aliens, animals, the color turquoise, and even the dream itself.
But some symbols are more feelings than words. A black cloud might
just sit and sulk. When that happens, it's better to try another
method.
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html
(Dream Flights)
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Invitation from the World Dreams Peace Bridge
Treasure Chest DaFuMu for the New Year (26th July)
Jean Campbell & Explora
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http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/monthyupdates.htm
Dreaming of peace and the interesting projects created as dreams
come true happen daily on the Bridge. Join us. To learn more about
The World Dreams Peace Bridge, go to our web site at
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org , or join the Peace Bridge
discussion group by sending a post to worlddreams-
subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Dear Dreamers,
Members of the World Dreams Peace Bridge
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org and Dream of Peace
www.dreamofpeace.net would like you to celebrate with us by
dreaming together on a Day Out of Time (July 25) and for a
Treasure Chest DaFuMu (July 26) in honor of the New Year.
The 13 Moon Calendar Change Peace Movement aims to replace current
institutionalized `Gregorian' calendar, of 12 months of irregular
length, with a calendar which just `is', the 13 Moon / 28 Day
count. The Moon cycles the Earth 13 times each year, so our solar
calendar becomes a lunar-solar calendar. Each Moon then becomes 4
weeks of a perfect 7 days.
"This is not the first time people have used the 13 Moon Calendar.
The Druids, The Inca's, Ancient Egyptians, Mayans, and Polynesians
all kept a 13 moon, 28 day count. The Lakota Indians based theirs
on the keya, or turtle since the turtle has 13 scales on it's
back. Modern science has even discovered that dolphins keep time
with 13 sets of 28 grooves along their teeth."
What makes this especially interesting, is that in addition to the
13 Moons of 28 days, there is also a Day Out of Time, for global
celebration, universal forgiveness, and artistic expression. A Day
Out of Time (July 25), to return to the indigenous path of the 13
Moons.
http://www.tortuga.com/
http://www.13moon.com/
On this Day out of Time, we will also participate in a worldwide
Day of Global Love and Thanks to Water.
http://www.thank-water.net/
Amazingly, enough both the Day of Global Love and Thanks to Water,
and the Day Out of Time, are to be held on the same day (July 25).
What a fantastic celebration!
* Please join us to send our Love and Thanks to all the water in
our physical body that has been sustaining and nurturing our lives
on this planet. 70% of our body is made of water. We owe so much
our health to the water in our body. Mother Earth
* Then, let us send our Love and Thanks to all the water on Planet
Earth. 70% of the surface of the Earth is occupied by water. The
environment on planet Earth is maintained by the water circulating
in various forms. If it had not been for water, life would not
have been created on planet Earth.
Purification of the World Dreams Peace Bridge Reservoir of Healing
Energy (July 25)
Of course, the fun doesn't end here. The World Dreams Peace Bridge
also has a special Reservoir of healing energy, first dreamed of
by May Tung.
"The idea is to have our own Peace Bridge Reservoir of Healing
Energy." May wrote. "We can concentrate on this central place,
sending our individual healing energy to this Reservoir.
Whenever anyone wants to or needs, they can go there. We may
even meet each other there!"
This Reservoir is located north of the Peace Bridge. It is a
naturally formed pond, surrounded by boulders, rocks, trees,
green grass, and wild flowers. No one has ownership of it. Birds
and animals frequent there.
In time for this Day Out of Time dreaming, a Reservoir page will
be available at the World Dreams site, so you can record your
thoughts and dreams. As you can imagine, by sending our Love and
Thanks to Water, the healing energy of the reservoir will be
purified, bringing great benefits to all.
Treasure Chest DaFuMu for the New Year (26th July)
The 13 Moon Calendar is actually a lunar-solar-galactic calendar.
In fact it tunes into the movement of the star Sirius, the
brightest star in our sky. Each year of the 13 Moon Calendar,
begins on the day in which the sacred star Sirius rises with the
sun in the morning.
Last year, on this date, Jeremy Seligson had his fantastic
"PeaceTrains" dream, which gave birth to the Peace Train which now
travels the world, with artwork, spreading a message of peace.
Here is what Jeremy says about the train:
"The train travels at whatever speed suits those it is visiting.
It is fueled by imagination and good will. But more than anything
else, it is fueled by love. Love for oneself and love for the
other, importantly for those who are of a different culture than
one's own, and especially for the children who will inherit our
Earth. The fact that it is at all is more important than where it
will end up. But its tracks lead all over the globe and perhaps
one day all over the cosmos. It is adaptable. It will survive. It
is your train, too, and you can get on it at anytime. Your friends
and family are welcome, as well. Even your pets and plants are
invited to get on ... the mountains and the seas, even the stars."
This, along with the other celebrations, is a good reason why our
first Treasure Chest DaFuMu on July 26 ("Big Dream of Good
Fortune") should be a great success.
About a year ago, Nick had a dream in which he began to think of
what people would think of his site Dreampeace, which had recently
started. In the dream, he says, "I met a man, at a local market,
who gave me a gift. I `saw' with my minds eye, an image of a
treasure chest. Awakening from the dream, I knew that this
treasure chest, may contain all kinds of gifts for the site.
We are asking that people set their intention during the Treasure
Chest DaFuMu to finding a gift for the children in the treasure
chest. Perhaps we can visualize our hands, excitedly foraging
through the chest, for a gift which we can share. See ourselves
amongst the trees, the waves rolling onto Treasure Island.
Good luck! And enjoy the celebration.
Explora and Jean
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New Addition:
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/reservoir.htm
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The World Dreams Peace Bridge is a group that uses personal dreams
for public world peace. You can find out more about the WDPB at
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/
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The Waves: 04. Journey to Mt. Shasta
Spectral Moon (May 30 to June 26, 2003)
© 2003 Nick Cumbo
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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea
Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims
to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe,
collaborating in dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for
the earth itself'
Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/
This moon, we'll be looking at our dream journeys to the
magnificent and mysterious Mt. Shasta. From magical and mutual
dream adventures, to the presence of underground cave systems
inside the mountain. Through collaboration with Dream Alliance, we
take our first big step into the exploration of Mt. Shasta.
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"The Mt. Shasta area in northern California (70 miles South of the
Oregon border) is regarded as one of the major spiritual areas on
earth. Mt. Shasta has been written about in numerous books
detailing hundreds, if not thousands, of appearances of UFO's,
angels, masters and other remarkable spiritual experiences that
have taken place in this area. Even the origin of the name,
"Shasta," is clothed in mystery. Some say that Mount Shasta was
actually named by French fur trappers who called it chaste,
meaning "pure." Or, it could have received its name from the
Tshastel Indians who lived in the area. The Sanskrit word Shasta
means one who lives according to divine law." (Quantum Quests)
A little while back I met, John, a member of a 9-member lucid
dreaming group, in a small town in Arizona, through a message he'd
posted to the World Dreams Peace Bridge:
"Here's my recent dream and how I got here. I spent the waking day
before my dream looking up ways in which my dream group could link
up with like-minded dream people in helping to bring about World
Peace. I found several sites in Mexico and Canada that seemed
promising. That night, I dreamed that a Native American man named
Art came and sat down to play drums with me. (In the waking world
Art and I have played at ceremonies and gatherings. Art is the
great grandson of the Apache chief, Geronimo).
After we played drums in the dream, Art told me that his tribe
supports the work that we are doing and then he gave me a word as
a gift. The word is "dreampeace". When I woke up I looked up
dreampeace on the internet and found your group. I am part of a
small (9 member) lucid dream group in a small town in the
mountains of So. Arizona."
Very excited by the chain of events which had led John in our
direction, I replied that our site was in fact called
'Dreampeace'. A month or so later, John invited our group to share
Mt.Shasta as a mutual dream destination with the Dream Alliance.
"My wife and I camped at the base of Mt. Shasta a few years ago
and that night I dreamed that the mountain was a huge castle.
There was no way in unless I scaled the wall all the way to the
top. The castle was huge, reaching almost a mile straight up and I
just didn't have the courage to scale it alone. If I had been
lucid I could've flown to the top. Anyway, with friends I think we
could make it into the castle and I'm absolutely sure the
adventure would be worth it." Contact me when your team is ready
and the Dream Alliance will join you in the Great Mt. Shasta
Adventure."
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It didn't take long before we began to have some success. The
first to have any luck was Ascension (Nick). In his dream he found
himself in the back garden of a house he was apparently living in,
which in turn was situated at the bottom of a golf course. Which
was strange of course, since Ascension didn't live anywhere near a
golf course in waking life.
"I wander out onto the golf course, and survey the greens, which
gradually slope up and into the distance from me. The course
however seems quite small, I can easily see it's boundaries to my
left and right, which are marked by trees. It appears to be
deserted, not a soul in sight. It is cloudy overhead and looks
like it will rain. Suddenly the clouds break all around me, and
rapidly disperse. Bright sunshine illuminates the landscape for
many miles around, revealing the splendor of a mountain range in
the distance, to the right of the golf course. Around the golf
course I now see many lush valleys and wooded areas, which
gradually lead to the foot of the mountain range. I am spellbound
by the beauty of the mountain, now clearly visible against the
blue sky."
After waking from the dream (in which he soon became lucid),
Ascension decided to do a search on Mt Shasta and golf courses, to
see what might turn up. He was immediately surprised, after
clicking on the first link. There, staring at him in the face, was
a golf course situated at the foot of the mountains, with forests
and valleys in between. Ascension added, "Believe me when I say
that apart from the single picture that was posted, I have never
seen or read anything else about this mountain. In fact, early
this morning was the first I had ever heard of it, so to see this
golf course with the mountains as a backdrop as it was in my dream
is quite fascinating"
Ascension wasn't the only one to express amazement at the sheer
beauty of the mountain. Strawin (Valter) also managed to visit it
in a lucid dream, reporting his shock at just how large it was. In
fact Strawin managed the journey twice in the same night!
"Alright! Now that was cool! What a mountain! I've never seen
anything that big in my life nor in my dreams! That was truly a
magnificent sight!". Apparently, upon looking flipping backwards,
and looking back up at the mountain, all he saw were two giant
sculptures of two young scholars from their waist up, facing away
with their bags on their back. It's interesting to ponder, if
there was any significance to that.
Other's such as EynKiora stumbled upon similarly strange bits of
knowledge. "Theres a huge mountain there, and I fly to the highest
point I can get to. Here I begin to lose lucidity. I see a place a
few feet higher up than where I am, and I climb up to it. I see a
boy (teen) climbing with his father. I feel like I'm watching the
boy and am the boy at the same time. He fall down a hole, and
lands on something soft, and starts to look at it. His father
tells him not to, its a corpse he (the father) found when he was
climbing as a child, of a man shot and killed during the war in
the 40s. I separate from this scene and fly off, I see four very
regular rectangular stone things sticking out of the top of the
mountain. The best way I can think of describing it, is a side
view of four pieces of toast sticking out of a four piece
toaster."
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UNDERGROUND CAVES
Initially our project didn't have all that much focus. Guided
meditation, can be a great source of knowledge, and especially
helpful when used in combination with dreaming. It can clearly
direct oneself to interesting lines of research. In my meditation
on Mt Shasta, I was given an image of a two doorways. One lay
above a vertical line, the other directly below. The image gains
more value, when we look at the reports of others who've
previously dreamed of Mt. Shasta. As an example we have this dream
from Dee, who runs the amazing Great Dreams website:
"I float into another massive room that has a huge fireplace built
into one wall and built with smaller golden fieldstone. Above the
mantle of the fireplace, it reads MT. SHASTA. From this room, I
can see other rooms through the doors, but they are all down from
this level. All the other rooms are underground."
Then, there are the legends of "the mysterious people who
supposedly live inside the mountain. They are said to be
descendants of an ancient society from Lemuria, a lost continent
that sunk eons ago. These Lemurians supposedly live deep inside
the mountain in apartments plated with gold. In this secret
colony, they preserve their ancient customs. Lemurians are
commonly described as graceful and tall -- seven feet and up --
with long, flowing hair."
Another man reported that he fell asleep on Mt. Shasta, to be
awakened by a Lemurian who led him inside the mountain to his
"cave, which was paved with gold." The Lemurian told the man that
there were a series of tunnels left by volcanoes that were under
the earth like freeways -- a world within a world." (Out West
Newspaper)
By chance, EkawaAwake happened to report this dream, which
certainly seemed to relate:
"I was the god of molten rock and caves. I was the care-taker of a
human village of poets. The Earth God, the first god, wanted to
kill my people. He shook the land in a great earthquake. Only Two
people escaped to my caves. I wanted to go out and try to stop the
Earth God, but I knew that my power was less than his because I
controlled but a small part of the earth, and he controlled the
whole of it. I stood just inside my caves mouth as I watched my
people crushed beneath the land which had once nurtured them so
carefully into being. I said to myself, "I must not go out,
somehow I must remain."
This is a wonderful quality of dreaming; it gives us the ability
to look through another's eyes. Could it be that the dream, was
retelling in a rather poetic way an ancient legend of the land?
That's a possibilty I'm drawn to, though there are certainly many
more. In any case it gave a fascinating insight into the
relationship between the spirits of the land.
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GAINING ENTRANCE
In Pilot's (Albert) dream he uncovered a valuable technique, that
seemed to suggest the use of lighting as a magical aid to our
journeying.
There are about 7 or 8 symbols on my forearm that indicate the
levels of sorcery, and I look up to see that my mom gave me a new
job. The place is a castle and we are serving the king and queen
and their people. I see them setting up large cakes as people walk
in. I'm really happy to be making a bit of money. All the people
decide to leave since there is a war about to happen. Me and this
girl are supposed to team up and use magick, so we wait atop a
structure and get hit by lightning, and I watch ourselves from
third person. The lightning is supposed to initiate the magick,
and then I join in the battle inside a big cavern and outside the
castle. I pretend to be axing people in the chest as I walk
around. The fight was decided from the start to be in our favor,
so we win."
Interestingly CCHawk reported a similar sword battle inside a
maze. After finally coming to some kind of victory, a man who'd
begun pouring healing water on the victims, told him to look up.
To his surprise, CCHawk looked up above him to see a mountain he
immediately recognised; Mt. Shasta. The theme of these battles was
made even more obvious by John's reply:
"The dream about the castle rings true, because when I had the
dream I knew that there were forces inside the castle that must be
overcome inside the castle that must be overcome in order for us
to gain entrance. I knew I couldn't climb the walls and fight the
forces by myself"
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THE COVER OF DARKNESS
In another dream, I was talking to a friend, Katia, who's actually
Portugese. I like to think of her appearance as rather symbolic,
as Katia certainly didn't know about our dream journey to Mt.
Shasta.
"She is telling me about this Chilean rock. I get the feeling it
was a family possession, perhaps it was from a dead relative. It
appears as though she didn't get to keep the rock forever, but
that she merely got to hold it. She then continues, "That night,
the rock came to me in a dream". By now, she's certainly got hold
of my attention (it's a dream! wow!)
Apparently the rock told her about the 'pollution inside Mt.
Shasta'. She describes the blackness, and I get a mental image of
an smokey/oily film like layer. She talks about how one can stay
near/in it, and travel through the caves, while remaining separate
from it."
This certainly was fascinating. My intention for dreaming, had
been to meet a Lemurian Being, and these words of wisdom for our
journey sure seemed to link in. Little did I expect, to have
another dream the same night:
"I see Katia again, and immediately am reminded of the dream I
just had. I first ask her if she has a Chilean Rock (though I may
have said Ring). She laughs a little, and says no. But then she
continues, "Though last night I did have a dream". I'm very
excited by now, and am about to jump in with my story. Yet, I
decide to hold back. I wanna see how her story unfolds.
I get the feeling she was contacted by higher spiritual guidance,
whose words she seems to be repeating for me. I remember her
saying "Considering OUR FUTURE is on the BRIGHT side", and then
singing twice and softly "she's breaking up for us"
I woke, marveling at the beauty of the dream. I had the impression
that it may have been the mountain or the forces of the mountain
were opening up for us. This seemed to be confirmation that the
spirits had given us permission to enter the mountain.
Just a few days earlier, my friend Alana had purchased a set of
crystal cards, that are used for divination. Each has a series of
images of different crystals, along with the name of a particular
attribute that belongs to them. The concept behind them is that
through meditation, one can come into contact with the energy
field of the Earth, and further come into resonance with the
teachings / attributes of each crystal. One chooses a series of
cards, by simply feeling out whichever they are attracted to.
After quickly getting up to write down the details of my previous
dream, I dropped back, and soon after fell into a relaxed,
meditative state. Immediately, I received a mental impression of
being given two crystal cards. The second of which was labeled
"Darkness". An inner voice spoke, "There's cover in here".
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NEW SHAMBHALA
Greyfyre (Jessica) became conscious that she was dreaming, and got
the urge to call out the name "Cryprus", so she did, immediately
receiving the attention of a grypon; a mythological creature
generally seen as being of great intelligence and wisdom.
"Out
of the mural wall, gliding in, comes that same white gryphon
from the last dream. It is about 12" to the shoulder and about 16"
to the top of its head. It lands on the bed of the room and feels
very sweet and innocent. It is definitely very young. I sit down
next to it, and start to stroke it; paying very close attention so
that I can remember it's appearance better when I wake up.
I get the impression that the gryphon is male, and I notice that
his eyes are a golden yellow color and that his wings are more
gray than white though the rest of his feathers are extremely
white. The little gryphon is just so adorable in nature that I
want to stay there and play with him but I also really want to do
the projects we have lined up. I tell the little gryphon that I'm
going to go do the Mt. Shasta project, and he seems excited and
wants to come, so I pick him up. I go out a door that appeared
where there was a wall earlier and find on the other side a
hallway with hundreds of doors going endlessly to the left and to
the right.
I just go up to the second door on the left (since it didn't
really matter which door I chose) and started to focus on the word
'Shambhala'. I'm not sure where it came from; just vaguely
remember hearing it in the dream. I know I was using it to mean Mt
Shasta."
Unfortunately, Greyfyre ended up being interrupted by a rude dream
character. However, she not only met a beautiful mythological
creature to share her dreams with, but her dream seemed to link
into another wonderful idea.
"Shambhala was a geographic location, a seat of inspiration where
the Buddha taught the Kalachakra Tantra, the Tantra of the Wheel
of Time. In the mythology of Pon, the native religion of Tibet,
Shambhala was a Central Asian kingdom, the origin and center of
the world whence issued all spiritual energies." (shambhala.com)
Even more fascinating, is that another site on Mt Shasta actually
had this to say:
"This is the New Shambhala. Many people are coming to the Mt.
Shasta area, drawn by a similar vision. There are spiritual
centers, retreats, classes and people drawn to this place of
harmony with nature. Come to share your part in the New
Shambhala." (Quantum Quests)
Soon after, Greyfyre had another Shambhala dream, once again
drawing on the strong mythological connection that has become
quite a trademark of her dreaming:
"There's a rich guy who's company did some digging or something in
the ground. They found these tunnels and met some gnomes who lived
deep inside the earth. Jack O'neil of SG-1 (Stargate) turns up to
investigate since they think the gnomes came from another world or
something to that effect. He and his team get access to the gnomes
who are still being held inside the rich guy's headquarters.
I know that they talked about some special place within the earth
(when they talked about it I got the visual impression of a
sparkling enormous underground cavern with all kinds of plant
life) and also about dreaming. From what the gnomes said, dreaming
is a pretty important part of their culture. I'm also fairly
certain that someone mentioned Mt. Shasta and Shambahala in the
same sentence.
They leave to go back and figure out what to do, though it seems
decided that the company has to stop digging underground and leave
the gnomes alone. While they are back talking about it to their
superior officer they get word that something bad happened back at
the company's on site headquarters. The company owner doesn't want
them let in but the security guy doesn't care anymore. They find
out that the company's digging or holding captive of the gnomes,
had upset the gnomes very badly and interrupted one of their
rituals. Though I don't remember exactly how they handled it, I
get the sense that in the same vein as the tv show everything
turned out alright.
At the very end I remember the team talking about the special area
within the earth and someone saying that the gnomes must have
found it to survive, but Dr. Jackson disagreed saying that the
fact that they were still digging around is proof enough that they
haven't. He says something about checking out Mt. Shasta"
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MUTUAL DREAMING
How we came about working with the Dream Alliance, on the Mt.
Shasta project, was a miracle all on it's own. Yet, the mutual
dreaming didn't end there. First there was this message to me,
from John:
"Had a short dream last nite, I wasn't lucid but it may be of
interest. Dreamed I was camping on a mountainside with others. Saw
a large log suspended horizontally in the air. A young man, 20
yrs. old, was standing on the log, spinning it with his feet the
way lumberjacks do. On his shoulders stood another young man who
was lifting a heavy object over his head. It was amazing. Two
young magician/daredevils on the mountain. I thought one of them
may have been you."
Eagerly, I sent off a picture of myself to John. To which he
replied, "You were the guy standing on the other guy's shoulders".
As if to confirm the truth of the message, I instantly received a
shiver of light through my body. However, at this point, we're
still waiting on the identity of the other magician J
John's next dream was a great example of mutual dreaming, and was
certainly an inspiration to my own interest in the area:
"I awakened and called for my dream team members. Two of them
showed up and I asked them to look at their hands to make them
lucid, like I was. They did and we then walked outside joined
hands and began flying to Mt. Shasta. I felt we were flying too
low at first and we started to fly higher when we flew into the
window of a 2 story building. We walked through the room and
jumped out the window on the other side of the room only to find
that we were thousands of feet in the air.
I was halfway out the window when Kate and I looked down and found
we were thousands of feet in the air. I felt her shock run thru me
and said "Just......Breathe". At this point my waking life cat
knocked over something in the kitchen and woke me up. I knew
immediately that the building that we has passed thru was the
inner plane of Mt. Shasta. One of the dreamers I was with (in the
dream) had a dream of jumping off of a high rock ledge that same
night."
In another of my own dreams, I asked 'The Waves', to guide me to
Mt. Shasta. Awaking, I began to read something that looked like a
post to Sea Life. The only difference, being that the interface
came through in black and white outline format. It was by a woman,
and read, "To ask questions of your own, let me suggest a form I
use personally". Apparently, a brown crystal.
I got the feeling from this dream that the brown crystal was a
form that could be used to enter into communication with Mt.
Shasta. What made this whole concept really interesting, was that
soon after I received a post from John (who hadn't yet read my
dream).
"A friend of our dream group is now traveling in California and we
gave her a piece from a quartz crystal cluster to place on Mt.
Shasta. We have the rest of the cluster on the altar where we have
our dream meetings here in Arizona. She arrives in Mt. Shasta
tomorrow June 24, so we can all follow the crystal energy path to
find our way to the mountain."
And guess what type of crystal it was?, "a brown/gray smokey
quartz crystal". Amazing. Considering John's friend Jean, hadn't
actually visited the forum, it seems quite possible that my dream
picked up on the knowledge through psychic phenomena. Perhaps the
simple black and white post, was a symbol to help demonstrate
this. The crystal trail to Mt. Shasta, is certainly a wonderful
idea!
In one of my final few journeys to Mt Shasta, I become conscious
that I was dreaming.
"I lean back and begin singing. "I wanna travel to Mt Shasta", I
repeat it quite a number of times, finally calling on my higher
self to guide me there. It works! I'm away. Floating through the
astral. I finally emerge, and I find myself on a mountain face.
Yet my attention isn't drawn to the mountain itself.
There's a circular graveyard type place - a memorial. I get the
feeling it's for the beings who live under the ground, in Mt
Shasta. There's a really vibrant energy surrounding me. I feel
like I've been drawn here for some special purpose. There are
perhaps 8-10 tombstones placed around the circle. My attention is
drawn to the first; my mind kind of zooms in.
I instantly have this strange impression that I actually saw an
image of this circle tombstone area on the internet, in waking
life. It's a feeling that I had in fact been warned about what was
to happen. The grave has a special message on it: "ID=125". This
seems to have some real importance. It almost feels as though the
ground is going to open up for me. The tombstone radiates light in
all directions, it's energy touching me. It's beautiful!"
Initially, I'd actually wondered if perhaps this was like some
graveyard for the beings who lived inside the mountain. I sure
wasn't expecting John's reply. Apparently, his street address was
Tombstone Canyon. Amazing! That made even more sense. His dream
group has 9 people in it what if they were the beings living (at
least in their dreams) under the mountain.
The actual street number was also extremely similar, but for some
reason I wasn't entirely sure about a link there. It was only when
writing up the article, that the realisation actually came
through.
As Strawin had mentioned earlier, a recent project, completed by
one of the dream teams was on the topic of dream-based discovery
of one's 'Animal Totems'. And it's topic ID; 125. Seems awfully
fitting then to include this final message from John, which seems
to highlight the healing power and wisdom of Mt. Shasta:
"One of our dreamers, Jane, dreamed that she entered a cave at Mt.
Shasta with a group of people. It was kind of like a class inside,
with a female teacher. She gave everyone in the class a card of
their own. Jane's card had lions on it. She's had lion dreams
lately and is looking for the courage to make a big change in her
life. Mt. Shasta has helped her find that courage."
This project turned out to be quite a fascinating adventure, and a
great demonstration of the benefits of collaboration between dream
groups. What a magical journey!
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Stay tuned next moon for the results of our research into
'Children's Dreams'. In the meantime dreamers are invited to
contact Nick (Explora), with their dream experiences of Mt Shasta.
We're always looking for new people to join us in our adventures,
so if it sounds like fun, please consider the offer.
Email: explora@dreamofpeace.net
Forum: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
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RESOURCES
Shambhala
Link: http://www.shambhala.com/
Great Dreams: Holograms
Link: http://www.greatdreams.com/holograms.htm
Sacred Texts Online: A Dweller On Two Planets
Link: http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/dtp
World Dream Bank: Mt. Shasta
Link: http://www.worlddreambank.org/S/SHASTAOC.HTM
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Archetypal Psychology and Dreamwork
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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[All footnotes without an author refer to James Hillman.]
Welcome to the topsy-turvey world of Archetypal Psycyology! At
first the ride through this post-Jungian school of thought may
feel like you are in a Felini film or playing a game of Shoots and
Ladders, but eventually the seriousness by which they take the
imagination and the depth they give to the dream and other images
is perhaps better characterized by a Bergman film, full of
pregnant pauses and unexpected glances that bring our attention to
the overtones and undertones of the moment and lead us deeper into
the image.
Archetypal psychology separated itself as a distinct school from
Jungian psychology in the early 1970's. As its founder and most
prolific writer, James Hillman, says of archetypal psychology, it
is an attempt to "connect to the wider culture of Western
Imagination beyond the consulting room" (Archetypal Psychology, 1)
That is, archetypal psychology has roots in personal analysis, but
extends its applications to art, architecture, literature and
other cultural products. The archetype, so crucial to Jungian
psychology, is released from being an archetype ~in~ us and seen
more as an adjective than a noun, an encounter that finds it
expression in all aspects of life. It is recognized as being prior
and more fundamental to life than any individual psyche.
Archetypes, seen in Jungian psychology as the structures that
underpin the psyche, whereas in Archetypal psychology they are
seen as "structures in process" (Re-Visioning Psychology, 148).
The term 'archetypes' typically refers to psychological patterns
that appear thought human experience and can be seen in the motifs
of age-old myths, legends, and fairy tales found in every culture
through the history of the human species. Archetypes, the symbolic
forms of the unconscious, can also be seen in the imagery of the
dream. Examples of archetypes are "the wise oldman/woman" 'the
tree of life,' 'the journey,' and 'home.' "( Aizenstat,1995, 95)
But in archetypal psychology this definition is expanded beyond
the one's personal relationship with these structuring powers to
include the non-personal imaginal realm. "Our broader view of
Depth Psychology includes the psychic realities of all phenomena,
emphasizing the part of the Depth Psychology tradition that honors
psyche in the world. " (Aizenstat , 1995, 95)
When we talk about the appearance of archetypes as people in
dreams or in imaginative spaces, then the ~persons~ of archetypes
emerge, the phantasmagoria, the mythical figures, the daimones,
and gods. When discussed in terms of symptoms and affect, they
are discussed as the styles of suffering (paranoid, borderline,
phobic). When discussed as ideas, they express the intellectual
psyche. That is, they express themselves as ideas important to
soul. " A God is a manner of existence, an attitude toward
existence, and a set of ideas." (Re-Visioning, 103) Each
perspective comes a whole pantheon of deities, sub-deities,
nymphs, wrights, angels, demons, symbols, landscapes, plants,
activities and modes of behavior. This is perhaps a clumsy way to
refer to what happens, but to date is also the most elegant. When
your daughter falls in love with a disaster, it becomes clear that
the whole pantheon of the god of love has become activated, along
with all that this entails. The ability of these powers to
possess and direct our behavior, to cause us suffering, but also
to give us meaning, would be inadequately expressed as anything
less than the possession by a god. We rarely have ideas of
importance, they have us.
What really makes archetypal psychology different than Jungian
analysis of individuals and culture? There are many levels to
this answer, some of which are quite complex, but basically there
is a shift in the attitude of the psyche being in us to us being
in the psyche. Some would argue that Jung made this shift himself
(When we are awake we say we had a dream, but when we are dreaming
we know the dream has us). However, the archetypal school draws
these elements out in a particular way that brings into question a
wide variety of Jungian concepts, including the Self, the Heroic
ego, representations, symbols and many other ideas.
Key concepts: soul, archetype, imagination, psyche
Andrew Samuels (Jung and the Post-Jungians, 1985) notes that a
survey of the main tenets of archetypal psychology need to include
the primary concept of archetype, its area of interest as the
image, and its vehicle as mythology that opens instead of grounds
and a world view of pluralism and polytheism. However, it is the
re-visioning of the concept of the ~soul~ that directs archetypal
psychology.
Typically in the West, we encounter the concept of the soul in
spiritual terms, but the archetypal school sees it more in its
direction of depth, not the rising heights of spirit.
Hillman borrows the term "soul-making" from the Romantics. As
Keats says in a letter to his brother "Call the world if you
please, 'The vale of Soul-making,' Then you will find out the use
of the world
" (April 21, 1819 Letter to George and Georgiana
Keats)
"From this perspective," say Hillman "the human adventure is a
wandering through the vale of the world for the sake of making
soul." (Re-Visioning, ix) Since our life is already
psychological, it behooves us to find the connection between this
psyche/soul and the world, and a place for soul in this world.
Just noticing is not enough, some encountering is needed. "
it is
not enough to evoke soul and sing its praises. The job of
psychology is to offer a way and find a place for soul within its
own field. For this we need basic psychological ideas. " (Re-
Visioning, ix)
But what is the soul? "By soul I mean, first of all, a perspective
rather than a substance, a viewpoint toward things rather than a
thing itself." (Re-Visioning, x) Wherever there is an encounter,
there is a something that comes between the encounter and me.
Soul-making is opening up this middle ground between. "In another
attempt upon the idea of soul I suggested that the word refers to
that unknown component which makes meaning possible, turns events
into experience, is communicated in love, and has a religious
concern." (Re-Visioning, x).
Three modes of soul then emerge:
1. Soul as the deepening of events into experience.
2. The soul has a relation with death, and hence love and
spirituality.
3. The imaginative possibility of our nature. Reflective
speculation, dream, imagery and fantasy. Imagination, depth,
symbolic, metaphorical realm.
"Image is psyche" said Carl Jung (Re-Visioning, 23) and this is a
strange thing at first. Usually we think of our psyche as a
receptacle full of images at times, cleared at other times. But
here, psyche ~is~ image. There is no consciousness that is not
already and first an image, a perspective. We can't bracket out
our fantasies, because the whole notion of bracketing out is
itself a fantasy.
Jung says that by image we "do not mean the psychic reflection of
an external object, but a concept derived from poetic usage, names
a figure of fancy or fantasy image" CW6 743 (From Berry, 1982, 57)
This places the image in a middle zone between, with
matter/concrete below it and spirit/abstract/ideal above it. Its
no wonder the Greeks call the butterfly "Psyche" as it hovers
between heaven and earth. As Casey notes, this middle zone, call
it psyche, imaginal or soul, also connects the ideal with the
material. It is the imaginal that grounds spirit and the imaginal
that lifts it into the abstract. (Casey, 1991).
In archetypal psychology, the image is primary. The image doesn't
(primarily) represent something else. Thus dream images, as with
all images, are not symbols, are not analogies, are not signs, are
representations. The image is therefore not just visual, though
it may at times take on visuals. Rather it is image in the sense
that I might say "Let me give you an image of what happened last
night at dinner." It is a sensibility rather than a sense, and it
has a degree of autonomy from my psyche.
If these imaginal beings are not in my psyche, where are they?
Scholar Henry Corbin contributes a concept from Islamic mysticism,
the mundus imaginalis, which is an imaginal realm between the
subjective and objective. This realm is filled with imaginal
beings, who may take the shape of our own complexes in our dreams.
We see, for example, our mother in our dream, but its not our
literal mother. Rather it is an imaginal being that has taken on
the look and act of our personal mother, attracted, we might say,
by our mother complex. (Corbin, 1969)
Corbin's placing of archetypal realities in the middle zone of
reality reveals the archetype as accessible to imagination first.
First when it presents itself as image and so the whole procedure
of archetypal psychology becomes imaginative, its tools rhetorical
and poetic, its reasoning beyond logic and it goal other than
social adaptation or traditional mental health. In terms of
therapeutic work, the goal is to restore the person to imaginal
realities long since repressed by the culture. That is, the aim is
the development of a sense of soul as the middle ground of
reality, and the method of therapy is the cultivation of
imagination. (Archetypal Psychology)
This imaginal realm plays itself out in culture as well as our
dreams. We can see the state of our souls in the buildings and
architecture of our cities, in the parks and choices of cars, in
the way we inhabit and decorate our houses. (City as Dwelling,
1980) "Inner" is a way of seeing these events more than something
literally inside us or them. The depth that we bring to an event
has more to do with the way we encounter it than something
inherent held inside. To the degree that the world is just a
means to some other end, it will seem sterile and mechanical. To
the degree " we give it meaning, it will reveal to us its
significance". (Avens, 1984). Soul, the deepening of events into
experiences.
And so things get turned around in archetypal psychology. Reality
is seen as various perspectives, or in other words , as so much
imagination. Imagination takes on a new status of existing, and
becomes reality. All our ways of seeing are imaginal, even our
attempts to see without and beyond imagination. (Avens , 1980).
It is a psychology that starts on the notion of a poetic basis of
mind rather than the brain, language, developmental theory, social
organization or behaviorism. Rather it starts with imagination.
Hillman traces the ancestral line of archetypal psychology leading
back from Carl Jung "through Freud, Dilthly, Coleridge, Schelling,
Vico, Ficino, Plotinus, and Plato to Heraclitusand with even more
branches which have yet to be traced. Heraclitus lies near the
roots of this ancestral tree of thought, since he was the earliest
to take psyche as his archetypal first principle, to imagine soul
in terms of flux and to speak of its depth without measure." (Re-
Visioning, xi)
From Heraclitus "You could not discover the limits of the soul
(psyche) , even if you traveled every road to do so; such is the
depth (bathum) of its meaning (logos)" (Revisioning xi)
Like soul, the word 'archetype' is also difficult to define.
Archetype becomes more of a metaphor than a thing. Envisioning the
basic structure of the soul in an archetypal way shifts all
discussion of it and all basic questions of psychology to the
realm of the imagination. Hillman maintains, with Jung, that
archetypes are the deepest patterns of the psychic functioning.
They govern our perspectives, our genres in literature, our
symptoms in psychopathology, our rituals and relations in
anthropology. But more important for archetypal psychology is not
the abstract structuring qualities of the archetype, but their
"emotionally possessive effect", the way they take over
consciousness and bewitch it. Note for example the daughter in who
falls in love with a man who will ruin her, but is totally blind
to this though everyone else can see it. Or the boss who has
gained power and become taken over with power and can no longer
hear anyone else and has become blind to all who work below
her/him. Or the person driven to suicide, finding no other path,
though if convinced by others to wait a day, finds his whole mood
changed.
And so, we see the archetype first in behavior (possession) we
can see the archetype in images (dreams, myths) and finally in a
style of consciousness or attitude, as in the heroic style of
consciousness of independence, strength, conquest and single-
mindedness.
One almost always hears archetypal psychologists speak in terms or
archetypal rather than archetype. This emphasizes both the
intensity of the encounter as well as the plurality. That is, that
archetypes are not singled out for study, but impact us in
multifaceted ways, and do so in a manner that overwhelms the ego.
What does this all mean for dreamwork? At first, it may seem
unclear. One famous dreamworker who reviewed Hillman's Dreams and
the Underworld said of the book "the book talks about why we
shouldn't do dreamwork, then gives examples of how to do it."
And yet the process is really quite simple. Stick with the image.
Instead of elaborating, associating, interpreting, second
guessing, finding links to your life, just stick with the image.
Just like meeting something or someone you have never met before,
though they may be wearing the clothes and face of those familiar
to you. And just like a friend, we don't get to know them more
deeply by interpreting them, but by grasping them as a whole
image, a whole being.
When the images are intolerable, this simple rule of sticking with
the image is more difficult. Even friendly images can be difficult
to stick with. Thus some theoretical background and context to
the work as a whole may be helpful in teaching us what to do and
not do with our nocturnal guests.
Personification
As previously discussed, in archetypal psychology the human is not
the only being with a soul, and the soul we have is multiple.
That is, there are other things than our ego, our subject in the
subject/object split, that are allowed to be ensouled. This
doesn't mean that every object is now seen as being alive and
having an independent consciousness. This would be what is called
a spiritualist fallacy, applying the project of soul in an
abstract manner of grids over all of reality. Instead, the rock
may or may not be currently inhabited. The building's soul may be
revealing itself one moment and not the next. And people with
egos may act quite soulless. We find out though giving the other
meaning, and waiting to see if it reveals its significance. We
wait, we listen, we make time and room for otherness.
At first this seems completely contrary to modern therapy and
the notion of re-owning one's projections. Typically the path of
contemporary ego integration is for the client to bring all these
imaginations that are out there on others into one's consciousness
and be responsible for these creations. We see this in the Gestalt
dreamwork of looking at every piece of the dream as oneself, as
well as the dreamwork where every piece of the dream brings with
it a message or presentation that is related to our ego's future
self development.
Rather personifying is taken by archetypal psychology to be "the
spontaneous experiencing, envisioning and speaking of the
configurations of existence as psychic presences" (Re-Visioning,
12)
Some ways we may error in approaching an image.
1. Allegory. Allegory tends to provide a "lesson" and the
personification of gods and goddesses become simply illustrations
of a principle. "Ah, yes, this flower in the dream is the
allegory of the rose and means thus and such." Or worse, it picks
up the positive side of an image or principle or myth and shoves
off the pathological side, which may be the part of the image that
hold the depth. "Allegory," write Hillman "is a defensive
reaction of the rational mind against the full power of the soul's
irrational personifying propensity" (Re-Visioning, 8).
2. Using words as signifieds. Just as one can impose a pre-
existing theory on a dream, one can also toss word-meanings at the
image. Consider that there are two approaches to the use of words,
signifying and evoking. In the first, the word is a sign, which we
have learned points to a particular concept. Couch, tree, cow. In
modern language we have operationally defined concepts of reason
and we have words of belief. Between these two there isn't much
room to maneuver, and yet, this space in-between is exactly the
place of soul and imagination. Words in the between realm don't
signify something other than themselves, but evoke and themselves
become part of the event. This is also the realm of poetry. We
can never tell beforehand if the evoked will appear. It doesn't
signify a stable concept.
3. Personification vs. personifying. The attribution of
personified objects outside the person has survived the death of
God in contemporary society in the forms of pathology and
anthropology. We either talk about people falsely attributing
human characteristics to objects (anthropomorphizing) or we talk
about primitive people and animism, the attribution of living
souls to inanimate objects. To avoid this name-calling which
assumes we take something inside and project it outside,
archetypal psychology uses the word personifying, which assumes
the existence of souls ~prior~ to our reflecting upon them.
What's the point of all this poetic soul-making and personifying?
Hillman reminds us that the Greeks and Romans used to have psychic
powers that they worshiped, Insolence, Night, Ugliness, Timing,
Hope, Mercy, Forgetfulness
and when neglected, people fell sick,
which is also what Jung never tired of saying. The point, Hillman
points out, is not to start up a new series of cults, but to see
this activity as cultural personifying. Finding these images in
our hearts and dreams and culture returns abstract thoughts and
dead matter to human shapes.
This leads us to a mythopoetic world view. In this view, myths are
not stories but personifications that draw one into contact with
depth. The mythic consciousness is able to engage a world that is
animated with soul. "where imagination reigns, personifying
happens." (Re-Visoning, 17) or as Jung put it "Image is psyche,
the psyche consists essentially of images
a picturing of vital
activates" (CW 13 #58)
One of the consequences of this view is that we too, are imaginal
being.
Naming with images and metaphors has an advantage over naming with
concepts, for personified namings never mere dead tools. (Re-
Visioning, 32)
Hillman notes that personifying, whether it is done pathologically
or intentionally, functions to "save the diversity and autonomy
of the psyche from domination by any single power, whether this
domination be by a figure of archetypal awe in one's surroundings
or by one's own egomania. ' (Re-Visioning, 32)
In some dreams, the various styles of presence are mirrored in a
scene. "these styles are embodied in persons who are embroiled
with each other. " (Re-Visioning, 32)
These personalities at night " infuse themselves into the
attitudes that dominate our daily lives. " (Re-Visioning, 32-33)
Dreams, then, for archetypal psychology hold a special place as
they can present an encounter that the waking ego may be unable to
access with all its waking defenses intact (in waking, they can
still overwhelm us, but we call them "symptoms.") That is, while
dreaming we are aware of our status as one of many autonomous,
imaginal beings.
Thus archetypal psychology allows the image to work on us. There
may not even be a conclusion or goal. Imagination doesn't have to
achieve or commit to create. In fact, it works better through
falling apart, coming to pieces, separating rather than unifying,
diversifying rather than integrating, multiplying instead of
hierarchical-izing.
In dreamwork, this requires moving towards and staying with the
intolerable, (Aizenstat, 2003) , the unusual, the alien. The
images "must be alien even while familiar, strangers even if
lovers, uncanny although we rely on them." (Re-Visioning, 41)
The myth of Eros and Psyche is taken seriously. It is through love
one can see the person in the imaginary and the imaginal layer
that pervades all we see. "every symptom or habit, fining place
for it within the heart of imagination, finding mythical person
who is its supportive ground." (Re-Visioning, 44)
Pathologizing
Why on earth would pathologizing be of use to archetypal
psychology, or anyone for that matter? To find that part of
psyche which is most hidden and alien to ego consciousness, there
is no better place than in the sick, suffering, abnormal and
fantastic symptoms. What Hillman means by the term is "the
psyche's autonomous ability to create illness, morbidity,
disorder, abnormality, and suffering in any aspect of the its
behavior and to experience and imagine life through this deformed
and afflicted perspective. " (Re-Visioning, 57) Through the
pathologizing activities of the soul, archetypal psychology
develops a psychological necessity. Once this necessity if found,
then pathologizing isn't right or wrong, but more finds its place
in the whole as necessary. That is, we begin to learn how it is
speaking and what it is saying. Part of this is seeing the
pathological as primary and inherent in all psychic events rather
than speaking of "abnormal psychology" which splits the psyche
into artificial parts, health and illness, sin and redemption.
There are three ways that we often avoid allowing space for the
pathological psyche.
The first is by careful naming and labeling, as mentioned above.
This accurate sketch of symptoms, their onset, their course, the
expected outcome, all expose a secret power dynamic to make them
sensible and deny their irascible essence.
The second way of avoiding the psyche's true pathology is by
shifting the insanity from the individual to the society, but in
the end maintains the division. The importance of
phenomenological/existential schools in exposing the insanity of
culture and offering us authentic choices and alternatives is
surely to be acknowledged, but as a full view of psyche they just
becomes one-sided and nihilistic.
The third way to avoid pathology is with sugary humanism, which
tries to stay above it all, focusing on the higher virtues of
mankind, its health, hope, self-transcendent warmth and love and
courage. But by turning away from the psyche's pathologizing,
they turn away from its full richness and depth.
As a larger picture, we can look at the Neo-platonic model to see
how there is often a struggle and confusion between spirit and
soul mentioned above in the placement of psyche/soul ~between~
spirit and concrete matter. However, in our culture both are
often folded into spirit and spirit dominates in the realm of the
abstract and ideal. That is, we turn psychopathology into a
material thing to be cured by medicine or a spiritual thing to be
worshiped or ennobled. When does it get its own realm?
How does one go with pathology then? Hillman suggests we expand
Jung's phrase "dreaming the dream onward" to include
"pathologizing the myth onward." This means trying to find a way
to stick with the mess. This means finding imaginal methods and
allowing the madness to teach us the method. "We do not decrease
their value by considering them as signs of medical sickness or
inflate their value by considering them as signs of spiritual
suffering. They are ways of the psyche and ways of finding soul."
(Re-Visioning, 75)
In dreamwork, for example, the way to stay with an image is first
to not set its value in terms of literal nature. So often the
twisted, turned, bent and out of shape scenes are seen as problems
while idyllic scenes are taken as sign of our equilibrium and
health. The more nature the more positive, the more distorted,
the more negative. "By employing the dream as model of psychic
actuality, and by conceiving a theory of personality based upon
the dream, we are imagining the psyche's basic structure to be an
inscape of personified images. The full consequences of this
structure imply that the psyche presents its own imaginal
dimensions, operates freely without words, and is constituted of
multiple personalities." (Re-Visioning, 33)
Psychologizing or Seeing Through
Psychologizing is seen as the soul's root and native activity.
The first activity is reflection. This is not a passive
reflection, but seeing reflection in all activity and behavior.
Though not all ideas are necessarily worthy of soul making,
Hillman writes "By psychological ideas, I mean those that engender
the soul's reflection upon its nature, structure, and purpose. "
(Re-Visioning, 117) As a general guide, the process is one of
de-literalizing, of moving into the metaphorical, of gathering up
the overtones and after tones that get cut off when we speak
literally.
It may be easier to talk about these ideas as archetypes, the
soul's relation with death, with body, the world, other souls,
love, beauty, sickness, family, ancestors, power, history, time.
It is there relationship to psyche that makes them archetypal and
keeps them connected with soul. The souls that can't find and
generate ideas become lost, hollow, lacking in imagination. What
a radical idea it would be to see a dream a day as its own idea,
its own new world perspective, its own school of philosophy. The
psyche expresses itself in these ideas. In this sense,
psychologizing means seeing through the view presented by the
psyche, putting on its eyes and looking through its eyes, as well
as seeing from what archetypal fantasy this view is coming from.
This turning of ideas back upon themselves is a way we come to
know the frames of our consciousness and the prisons of our mind.
"Through psychologizing I change the idea of any literal action at
allpolitical, scientific, personalinto a metaphorical
enactment
. I recognize that though my ideas I apprehend and am
apprehended by my inmost subjectivity, entering all actions in the
role of an idea" (Re-Visioning, 127)
In other words, by placing the scene we are in within the stage of
psychological powers (perspectives, gods, archetypes) we create a
space for the introduction or re-introduction of the imaginal.
When this task is neglected, there is no less fantasy, but the
fantasy is dominated by single views. If I am at a board of
directors meeting and unable to place my position within a larger
imaginal field, I am likely to be caught up in the egoic dramas,
the continual power plays, the continual need to be heard.
Allowing for a more polytheistic placement, seeing that a wider
variety of perspectives and imps and ideas and demons are at play,
the board meeting can open up from its monotheistic bottom line or
need for progress and take on the larger goals of, say for
example, unfolding the complexities of the mission statement of
the organization and recognizing the development of relations that
can bring in novelty and innovation. This will be as true for the
board meeting in the waking world as the board meeting in my
dream.
So, in psychologizing, we look for the fantasy that is dominant in
a time or space. There is no specific procedure for this. It may
be through an historical examination of underlying causes, it may
be a semiological analysis, it may be a philosophical debate. It
may be through humor or art or love. But again, the process is one
of de-literaling. Some mistakes we make in trying to hear metaphor
include:
1. Abstract Liternalness. Theology and metaphysical often take
as literal the most abstract of concepts. In this way they speak
about soul, but are really avoiding soul in talk about redemption,
truth, and ideals.
2. Body Liternalness. The body is always concrete, but not
literal. The body engages in a wide variety of tasks which are
concrete but not just literal, such as eating, dancing,
copulating, fighting, running.
Steps in seeing-through
a. Psychologizing. What is going on here? What is this moment
in my life and as I bring some reflective time into the moment,
what becomes clear? This process may itself be infinitely deep.
Once moment of clarity leading to the next darkness.
b. Deus abscounditus: As we begin to acknowledge the full depth
of the encounter, we find ourselves guided by that something which
always remains unknown, a hidden god. "who appears only in
concealment" Re-Visioning, 140) and justifies the whole process.
c. Narration: as we elaborate the phenomena before us, we make
a tale of it, and in telling this tale what is before us
transforms. All explanations can be considered narratives and
placed mythologically.
d. Ideas as tools: The way it all moves is through ideas, and
these are then the eyes of the soul, the way it sees.
In conclusion, what kind of general world-view is archetypal
psychology offering? Stephen Aizenstat suggests that the move if
from the Collective Unconscious to the World Unconscious.. This
view includes the psychic reality of all phenomena as they
manifest in the world. "The world unconscious is a deeper and
wider dimension of the psyche than that of the personal or the
collective unconscious. In the realm of the world unconscious, all
creatures and things of the world are understood at interrelated
and interconnected" (Aizenstat, 1995, 96)
This view deeply acknowledges the imaginal realm in life and
attempts to restore it value in our culture. The result is an re-
animated world of autonomous beings. But while these beings may
not need us, we need them. "Images, like myth, are necessary for
the enchantment of the soul, said Plato. There is nothing more
ultimate than thatenchantment, eternal delight in coming and
going, in ascending and descending on Jacob's ladder. The Event
events, Imagination imagines. " (Avens, 1984)
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Message: 670-001
Subject: There has to be something to this
Last night I dreamt that a rattle snake was giving birth in my
front yard. How I knew this Im not sure but I could hear the
rattling and could tell that the snake was in pain. (Im terrified
of snakes). I called animal control and spoke with a man who told
me that they had been having a lot of problems with the rattle
snake population in my area. He assured me that some one was on
there way with a dart gun. While I was on the phone a goat came
out of no where and ramed right into me with incredible force, of
course this woke me. So what do you guys think? Is this sexual?
LOL. Cant wait to hear your comments.
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Message: 671-001
Subject: should i sleep with my best friend?
my best friend is a guy, and we have been best friends for 5 yrs
now. I feel very close to him, possibly in love with him, and i
think about him a lot. Now more and more i am having dreams about
him, very vivid ones about being his girlfriend, and kissing him,
and feeling very very close to him. One week i had five dreams
about him five nights in a row, like holding his hands in the
dream, and snuggling with him, and kissing him, and eventually him
leading me to his bed room. I'm not sure if this is my inner
conscience telling me how i feel about him and what i should do,
or if its just a bunch of dreams.......what should i do.....if
anyone has ANY idea, please
PLEASE let me know!!!!!
Comments: 671-001,
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Message: 671-002 [671-001]
Subject: RE: should i sleep with my best friend?
Dear Chilliblonde241,
I think these dreams are definitely telling you your deep feelings
about this man. If you are best friends, you should be able to
tell him about your dreams and see what he thinks - who knows -
maybe he feels the same way??
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Message: 671-003 [670-001]
Subject: Re: There has to be something to this
Hi Reneeb
This is an interesting dream some would call it a nightmare. The
contradiction of your fear of the rattlesnake, and the concern for
its welfare are devises the subconscious uses to bring you out of
deep sleep when there is an immediate problem in your sleep a
sudden pain, in this case probably a cramp near the pelvis. When
you are near to consciousness the dream wakes you without
disorientation. In your case the goat delivers the coup-de-grace
to your sleep, not
without a sense of humour! If you felt sexually aroused after the
dream, then there must have
been a sexual motive for the dream.
Cheers H
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Message: 673-001
Subject: I had sex in the art toilets with my male teacher
dream_title: i had sex in the art toilets with my male teacher
dream_date: 30/06/03
dreamer_name: tazyb
dream_text: i was in an art class with my teacher mr rose when he
called me over to talk to me about my work, he wispered in my ear
"go to the toilets and ill meet you there" so i did, everyone was
looking at me. mr rose joined me in the art toinlets and we had
sex then i woke up shortly after
dream_comments: although i left school a year ago and my teacher
has moved away i still have a picture of him on my keyring i
havent thaught about him for ages and all of a suden i had a dream
about him. i used to have a similar dream where we would get
locked in the english toilets and then have sex its wierd i know.
please can you tell me what it means my e-mail is
tazy85b@aol.com thankyou
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Message: 674-001
Subject: The Back, Back, Back Yard
dream_title: The Back, Back, Back Yard
dream_date: 4/18/2003
dreamer_name: dreambat
dream_text: My mother had died and the garden in the back, back,
back yard is gone as well. At first I am alone in that back yard
which touches the alley. There is a lot of stuff here in the empty
garden, including a bed. I think to myself what a nice thing it is
to have a bed here, what a lovely view. But then I become
concerned about how the bed will fare in bad weather.
A man comes along I see in the dream as a vagrant, and I am
concerned he will stop and spoil the bed as well. I notice the
large bone-charcoal pieces, some a quarter the size of the garden
itself. they are what is left of the dead garden. I am very sad
that this is the only land left in my family. My wife, Sierra, and
I discuss moving the house out here for the view. But the view
isn't a nice as it was. We see from the now very large charcoal
hill many paths and streets below and many people busily going
about their business. I tell Sierra, "When I was young, one could
work all day in the garden without a person coming by."
Then I am with my grandmother Lenna and the charcoal hill we
are on is the remains of my dead mother. We discuss how we are
going to mourn her and what to do with the yard and remains
Upon waking I feel the scene quite gruesome, but there wasn't any
of this in the dream itself.
dream_comments: I worked as a child for my grandmother in her
large garden. I always thought of it as labor and toil, though I
recognized she loved ever minute of the work. The garden was
separated and behind the back yard, and even behind an in-between
back yard.
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Message: 675-001
Subject: Singing to the Whales
dream_title: Singing to the Whales
dreamer_name: Michael M
dream_text:
I have gone down the stairs into the basement. It is fairly dark.
There are only one or two lights on. I notice that there are many
other lights, but that they need new bulbs. Back by the stairs, I
see a shelf that has boxes of bulbs. These are very special bulbs-
-shaped cylindrically at top and bottom with a larger radius bulge
in the middle. I get some and begin to change out bulbs. I can
reach them by standing on tip toe. The room gets lighter and I can
see more of it. There is a large furnace at one end toward the
back-center and I go around it and change a bulb in the corner so
that light even gets there. I go back across to a workbench area
and see a two by four that goes above the top of the bench on the
wall. I think that would be a good place to install more lights.
Directly above me I see a bulb that's out and screw it out of the
socket. Someone had screwed it into a broken light bulb which was
still in the socket. I take the glass in my hands and unscrew this
one. It comes out, but the two wires are hanging there loose. I
worry that they'll come in contact. I somehow get them out. I take
them over to a table and set them down. They still accidentally
come close to contact. I set them on a wet cloth which worries me
a little. I think Matt (my oldest son in waking life) is good with
electrical stuff and he can fix it now. I am pretty happy with the
basement now. At this point I realize the basement is my
unconscious and that I have brought some of it into consciousness.
I then become aware that there are other rooms that lead off of
here. One leads on outside I think. It is by the workbench. I can
just see outside in spaces between boards. Another is in the rear
of the room. I think these must be where my unconscious is. I open
the door in the back of the room. It is dark and looks just like
the coal room in my house in Bloomington. (I lived there as a
youth in Illinois in waking life). I can see a mound of dirt to my
right (actually was there in waking life). It goes upward all the
way to the wall. It is very dark over there. At the top is a
rectangular window. To the left of the window I can see a dark
green water heater. A man
is leaning in the window and is going to light it. I'm afraid it
might blow up. I wonder what someone is doing in my house. He says
he belongs there, that he is not from outside. I hide behind the
door for a moment, but it doesn't blow up. When I look again the
man is gone and the window (which was empty before) now has an
opaque, wavy pane in it. I think its religion the
way I knew it before. A loud NO! comes into my head. I throw a
roll of toilet paper at the window, but it just bounces off. As I
watch, the window shatters and a white dog/wolf breaks through and
runs down to me. He has short curly white hair that is very soft.
I am on my knees. I hug and kiss the dog/wolf. Then I see a grey
cat come through the window. It comes down
beside me also and walks in front of me. I see a nipple on a long
strand on its right side and think I should suck on it. I am not
sure that would be right and worry about thinking this. The cat
lies down and I am impressed that it gets along with the dog. I
look up at the window again and can now see stars. As I look, and
am still holding the dog, I feel that I need to
sing to the whales. My singing is very important for whale
marriage and I am somehow connected to them by the stars. The
stars are very unusual. They are large and moving. I sing and feel
very close to the whales. I also feel that the whales are waiting
for us to sing to them. I feel that this is essential to allowing
a spiritual marriage between our species to take place.
dream_comments: Whale dreams are one of my dream motifs. I have
more than 30 of them. I have a number of categories of motif
dreams, but if there were such a thing as number motif dreams,
those would be far and away the largest category of all for me.
The Singing to the Whales dream is one of 3 big dreams in my
life and led to a whole series of quite amazing synchronicities.
For example, I have found that the connection between whales and
stars is archetypal and is known to native peoples!
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Message: 675-002
Subject: Lucid Near Heaven
"Lucid Near Heaven" - April 28, 2003
I am aware that I am dreaming (Lucid). There is a group of people
next to me and I ask them if they want to go with me to heaven. I
have everyone hold hands, some on my left and some on my right.
There is a young boy on my right and I hold his hand. It is Robert
(my recently deceased brother). I inform everyone that the journey
will not be easy. It will get very cold at times but I will ask to
make it warm. We leave and we are flying high over cities. Some
people drop off on the way because they don't want to take the
journey. I stop and there are only 3 of us left, a woman on my
left and the little boy on my right. I look back and the boy is
resting and crying, he
says he can't make it, it is very cold yet he really wants to go
to heaven yet he seems scared. I told him that he can make it, I
am very calm but I have to keep telling myself that I am dreaming
so that I don't loose flight. Then I take the little boy's hand
(the woman is now gone on my left) and we take off again, I am
concentrating to make it warm. Ahead I see a beautiful
white city with a glow of the sun. I look to my left and a fish
which is 10 times our size is slowly coming upon us and is looking
at us as if to say, I am watching over you and I guard heaven. The
fish is outlined in black with black eyes and scales, the rest of
the body is white. I think to myself, WOW wait until I tell people
about this awesome dream. Elizlyn@aol.com
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Message: 675-003
Subject: Hands
dream_title: Hands
dream_date: 07/23/03
dreamer_name: Phoenix
dream_text: About 3:00 am I woke up but before I opened my eyes I
saw many color astrological signs coming towards me. A little
window opened up in the middle and it had pictures of many
fingered dark hands.
dream_comments: This dream was very, very vivid
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Message: 675-004
Subject: DNA
dream_title: DNA
dream_date: Monday, November 19, 2001
dreamer_name: rannva
dream_text: I am in a room or situation and all of a sudden I am
flying or falling in a reality where I can see a DNA double helix.
The helix is flattened out and it has the shape of a Moebus strip.
It is immense and I am very small compared to this structure or
phenomenon. I am floating in this space around the information of
DNA. I can see the codes for A, T, G, and C
imprinted on the strips. This is an extremely profound moment for
me. I am surrounded by this wealth of information and am not sure
what it means to me and what I should do with it. As I approach
the edge of the strip and grab hold of it. I see numbers on the
white background. I hold on to the part where the number is
something between 15-19. I see it very clearly. The
strip stretches out a little as I tug on it as if to anchor myself
in this nothingness. I look down below me and this information
strip continues and moves around far beneath me and there is
nothing else in this space. Only this information. I feel as if I
have entered a secret space in reality, a hidden place, and I
wonder what I should do with it. It is both frightening
and fascinating and I am nearly aware that I am dreaming. I wake
up, check that I am awake, but I have trouble staying awake. I
drift back into this reality for a while until I force myself to
wake up.
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Message: 675-005
Subject: Me and my boyfriend
dream_title: me and my boyfreind
dream_date: 7-20-03
dreamer_name: bob
dream_text: i had this dream that my boyfreind and i broke up. in
real life everything between us is going fine. but in my dream he
broke up with me and kissed me goodbye. i dont get what this
means!!!???
dream_comments: please help me! can you tell me what this dream
means?
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