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Volume #11 Issue #9

September 2004

ISSN# 1089 4284

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes

++ News – PsiberDreaming Conference 9-19 to 10-3-04
Register before September 5th, get a $5 discount!
Or Join ASD as a NEW member from August 8 - October 3, 2004, and
as a bonus you can attend the 2004 PsiberDreaming Conference for
free!


++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis
Robert Waggoner interviews Beverly D'Urso III

++ Article: The Artworker of Dreams
Linda Lane Magallón

++ Column: Making Book
The World Dreams Peace Bridge
A View from the Bridge
Jean Campbell

++ Dream: On Thin Ice
Stan Kulikowski II

++ Letter from David Gordon, ASD Membership Chair


++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from August, 2004
Host Kat Peters-Midland

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Editor's Notes

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Welcome to the September 2004 issue of Electric Dreams, your
portal to dreams and dreamwork online.

If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the
resources & groups you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Electric Dreams is looking for a Dream News Editor. If you are
interested in this position, see the details below. This is a
really fun position as you get to know all the players in the
field of dreams.


This month in Electric Dreams:


Lucy Gillis shares travels around the dream world to find the most
talented and experimental lucid dreamers. This month, "DreamSpeak:
An Interview with a Lucid Dreamer" continues with its third
installment. In this three part series, Robert Waggoner interviews
long time lucid dreamer Beverly D'Urso.

Linda Magallón, author of Mutual Dreaming, discusses the
interpretation of dreams and the art in playing and working with
the dream maker. Be sure to read "The Artworker of Dreams."

Jean Campbell, spokesperson for the World Dream Bridge updates you
on the activities of their community. As usual, that creative
bunch are unfolding helpful potentials across the world. This
month Jean talks about how the group and its authors spontaneously
feed off one another, and how you can join in as well. Be sure to
read her column "A View from the Bridge."

Keep in mind that the Fall PsiberDreaming Conference starts
September 19th, and if you sign up before Sept 5th, you get a $5.00
discount. Even better, join ASD as a NEW member from August 8 -
October 3, 2004, and as a bonus you can attend the 2004
PsiberDreaming Conference for free! For more information, read the
invitation below from the Host, Ed Kellogg, Ph.D.

Also, the International Association for the Study of Dreams has
started a membership drive. Please read the letter from David
Gordon, Membership Chair for ASD

Janet Garrett has been working hard this month to bring the
Electric Dreams Archives (our articles from the last ten years) up
to date. This month she has added an Electric Dreams Contents
Section to the list by author. You can see her work progress and
view hundreds of article on dreams at:
http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/index.htm


An expanding closet, a floating road, two cross dressers, and many
snow white doves forming a big white cross then a large tornado…
What do they have in common? They are in the Electric Dreams Dream
Section. Be sure to read all of these
dreams and more. If you want to send in dreams, enter them at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Many thanks to the Dream Section Editor, Kat Peters-Midland

If you want to send in dreams, please enter them at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
or join the dream flow at dreamflow@yahoogroups.com
(dreamflow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com)

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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to
stop by one of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo)
http://electric.dreamofpeace.net/
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/

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Dreamin' up a storm,

-Richard Wilkerson

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Global Dreaming News seeks new Editor – (volunteer position)

If you feel you would be a good candidate to report the news that
is going on in the dream world, be sure to contact Richard
Wilkerson at rcwilk@dreamgte.com

The GDNews editor will receive the support of the Electric Dreams
staff in making contact with all the essential people in the dream
world, and will be responsible for putting this information
together once a month for publication. This is a really fun
position and you can expand then news as you like. In the past, we
have included reviews of dream books, dates for conferences,
seminars, talks and other events, new websites and research news
and requests.

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PsiberDreaming Conference
The Association for the Study of Dreams
September 19, 2004 - October 3, 2004
Virtual Conference - Online

Invitation from Host, Ed Kellogg, Ph.D.
E-mail: alef1@msn.com

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http://www.asdreams.org/psi2004/

Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of psi-
dreaming for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions,
workshops, contests, and chats at a bargain price. If you've ever
had a precognitive dream, a lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual
dream' that puzzled you, this online conference seems the place
for you.

Past presenters include: Charles T. Tart, Ph.D., author of Altered
States of Consciousness, Robert L. Van de Castle, Ph.D. author of
Our Dreaming Mind, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Ph.D. author of The
Dreamer's Way, Robert Moss, author of Dreamgates, Marcia Emery,
Ph.D., author of The Intuitive Healer, Alan Siegel, Ph.D., author
of Dream Wisdom, Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D. author of Lucid Dreaming,
Dale E. Graff, author of Tracks in the Psychic Wilderness, Stanley
Krippner, Ph.D. co-author of Extraordinary Dreams, Jeffrey
Mishlove, Ph.D., host of Thinking Allowed - and many others!

Previous conferences brought in rave reviews:

"Bravo!", "Incredible!", "a wonderful experience," "amazing!",
"topnotch", "I am really thrilled," "great conference," "please,
please do this frequently," "I don't know how many accolades I can
give you, too many to count, I believe. The conference was simply
great!! Good presenters, topics, participants, and great energy."

If you missed the first two, make sure you attend the third!

Features:

1. Online Presentations, including provocative papers and
workshops on popular and cutting edge topics, such as: remote
viewing, precognition, dream telepathy, mutual dreaming,
psychopompic dreams, lucid dreaming, visionary dreaming, prodromal
dreams, dream healing, the nature of dream reality, and dreaming
as a spiritual practice. Workshops will provide resource lists for
those who wish to explore topics in greater depth, and practical
instructions for techniques or experiments detailed enough so that
conference participants can try them out at home.

2. Dedicated PsiberDreaming Discussion Boards where participants
can discuss each paper and workshop in depth with authors and
other participants, and can post specific questions, etc. Links to
relevant threads would appear conveniently at the end of each
posted presentation, updated daily to show new threads of
interest.

3. Scheduled Chats each week of the conference with presenters
and/or other experts on cutting edge topics.

4. Numerous PsiberDreaming Events where participants can test
their skills and explore different facets of paranormal dreaming,
including dream telepathy and remote viewing, precognition, and
mutual dreaming. Judges will evaluate how well dreamers tune into
the designated targets, or how well dreamers perform a specific
dream task. And ASD will provide prizes to the winners!

5. A PsiberDreaming Gallery of Dreams and Art. One section of this
gallery will feature the "best of the best", graphic images of
dream art selected from the submissions to past ASD conferences,
formatted into a sequential point and click cyber tour. A second
section of the gallery will provide a place where participants can
display their own dream art (with accompanying dream text or dream
poetry), sharing them with other participants.

Event Dates and Costs:

The PsiberDreaming Conference runs from September 21, through
October 5, 2003.

Online Participation Costs for both weeks (no one week rate):

General Public $38! (US Dollars)

ASD Members $33! (US Dollars)

Students with valid ID $23! (no additional ASD discount)

Note: we've deliberately set the price of attending this
conference low to open this conference to interested participants
worldwide. Please take advantage!

http://www.asdreams.org/psi2004/


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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange

By Lucy Gillis

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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis

LDE is pleased to present DreamSpeak: An Interview with a Lucid
Dreamer. In this three part series, Robert Waggoner interviews
long time lucid dreamer Beverly D'Urso. (Please note, as with all
material in LDE, the author retains copyright of his or her
material. In this interview, the questions are by Robert Waggoner
and the responses are copyright of Beverly D'Urso.)


DREAMSPEAK
AN INTERVIEW WITH BEVERLY D'URSO: A LUCID DREAMER - PART THREE
(c) Beverly D'Urso
Questions by Robert Waggoner

Beverly D'Urso (formerly Beverly Kedzierski, and also Bev Heart)
is an incredible lucid dreamer. She served as Stephen LaBerge's
main lucid dream research subject in the early years of his
research work, and helped provide key insights into lucid
dreaming. Interviewed by magazines, national and local television,
and other media, Beverly has promoted a greater understanding of
lucid dreaming and "lucid living." The LDE is pleased to provide a
multi-issue interview of this fascinating lucid dreamer.

Robert: How did your lucid dreaming develop after the birth of
your son?

Beverly: My mom was feeling better during the years after my son
Adrian was born. She visited us often, and we would go to Chicago
to see her, as well. Adrian and she became best friends. In the
year 2000, I had the biggest challenge of my life. Adrian had
started kindergarten. I talked to my mom on the phone almost every
day. She was still living in my childhood home, near Chicago. Six
days before her planned trip to visit us in California for the
holidays, she drove a friend to lunch. That night she told her
neighbor that she was feeling good. I had a dream that night,
which I shared with Chris and Adrian during breakfast. In the
dream, I went to help a woman I loved, who was hanging on her
house by her fingertips. Soon, I was hanging by my fingertips, as
well. Chris told us that he dreamed we were going on a trip, and I
was quickly getting ready.

That morning, in Chicago, my mother didn't answer her door, so her
neighbor came in. She found my mom on the floor, next to her bed,
unconscious. The doctors called me to say that my mom had had a
sudden, massive stroke, and all four quadrants of her brain were
instantly destroyed. She would only exist in a vegetative state. I
needed to take her off life-support, as she requested in her
living will. Chris, Adrian, and I flew to Chicago immediately.
Needless to say, the next twelve days before Christmas were a very
difficult and emotional time.

Robert: I remember the year before my father passed away, I had a
number of lucid and apparently precognitive dreams giving me
information - but on one level, nothing can prepare you for it.
How did you deal with this?

Beverly: First, I needed to give the okay to remove her
ventilator. Everyone thought that she would die at this point. The
night before this was scheduled, I had a dream that my husband and
I were at the edge of the beach. A tidal wave was coming. In the
distance, we saw angels flying toward us in a "V" formation. We
thought the tidal wave would demolish us, but instead, the angels
flew right over our heads and protected us. This dream told me
that I would be able to survive this ordeal. Coincidentally, the
ventilator was removed at the exact time that her plane to
California was scheduled to take off. However, she still lived,
and we had more decisions to make. Do we give her an IV? Is
glucose considered food? We did not want to prolong her life in
this state. One time, I stayed up all night with her in the
hospital. When I finally did go to bed, I had a dream of her. She
said to me, "Get some sleep, I'll take care of the body."

Finally, it was Christmas Eve. My mom and I had been together
almost every year of my life at midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, in
my hometown church. Christmas Eve was her favorite day of the
year. She always said, "If we are ever lost, let's meet on this
night at our church, in our regular seats". My mother died right
at midnight, officially Christmas Day morning.

After her funeral, I stayed alone in my childhood home for another
few weeks, to go through fifty years of stuff that had been
collected. I made the decision to rent out the house.

Robert: That must have been an extremely difficult and emotional
time. Did dreaming help, or was that painful too?

Beverly: My life, as well as my dreams, was quite a struggle after
this. In my dreams, I hated to see my mom, only to remember that
she had died, which would happen when I was lucid. This was too
much to handle. I didn't want to be reminded, once again, in the
sleep state, that my mother had died. It was enough to deal with
it while awake. I decided not to have lucid dreams for a while. I
had a strong intent and a physical need for this to happen. I did
have regular, non-lucid dreams of her.

At each stage of my grief, these non-lucid dreams of my mother
evolved. First, I dreamed of her and I doing our usual activities.
I could have enjoyed these dreams, if I didn't have to feel such
shock when I woke up and remembered that she had indeed died.
Next, I started dreaming that my mother did not die after all.
Then, I had dreams in which she had died, but mysteriously came
back to life. I didn't question this in the dreams.

I had many dreams of my childhood home during this time, as well.
I did not get lucid, even with great clues, such as when house was
changed in impossible ways. Things were very bizarre. Other people
were living there, as was now the case with the renters, in
reality. I felt angry and confused.

I went to grief therapy for over a year. Using peer counseling and
group sharing, I demonstrated more and more acceptance of my
mother's death. Little by little, I took the knowledge of her
death into my dreams and began to explain it to other dream
characters. Finally, after explaining my mother's death to my
"father" in a dream, I was able to interact with my "mother," and
actually discuss her death. At this point, I had a significant
degree of lucidity, and my dreams felt more comfortable, and
sometimes enlightening.

Robert: I recall that a month after my father's death, I became
lucid and insisted on seeing my father. Amazingly, the dream
characters told me that "no, it is too soon". So instead, I had a
fascinating conversation with them. After that my dream characters
in lucid dreams were quite supportive and caring, and I did go on
to have lucid conversations with my deceased father. How did your
lucid dreaming progress?

Beverly: In the spring of the year 2002, a year and a half after
my mother's death, the lease was up on my childhood home. I needed
to sell the house. But could I? Spontaneously, I dreamed that I
found the witches in my childhood home. I surrendered to them, and
they pulled me under the closet door, where they came from. I
merged with the witches. The biggest fears of my childhood were
resolved. In my dreams, my fear was to go with the witches. In
life, my fear was my mother's death. At last, I could sell the
house easily, and I felt that I had healed quite a bit. In the
last dream I had of my childhood home, I flew out the picture
window like a powerful witch.

After this, I would bring my mother into my dreams. We would
embrace and I'd say, "I love you and I miss you, mom." Sometimes,
in my dreams, I am still convincing her that she really died. This
tells me that some level of grief still exists. One time, in a
dream, I said to my mom, "You are safe now, you are in heaven!" I
heard the message for myself, as I see my mother as part of my
higher self, the Dreamer of life. I presented my grief dreams in a
paper at ASD2003 called, "Witches, the House, and Grief:
Developing and Avoiding Lucid Dreaming." I was now in a place to
get on with discussing my work on "lucid living!"

Robert: Yes, please tell us about lucid living.

Beverly: Before I discuss lucid living, I need to define a few
more terms. When discussing a non-lucid dream while awake, I refer
to my dream self as "me" or "I," (as in: "I was flying") and I
refer to my physical self (or part of my physical self's "mind")
as the one who creates the dream, whom I call the dreamer. By
definition then, I can not call my dream self the dreamer,
although I recognize that some people do. Note, that I do not feel
my physical self's brain contains my physical self's mind. I also
assume that a "mind" is not physical. In a lucid dream, although I
also refer to my dream self as "I", I can sense my connection to
the dreamer, and I feel like a "larger, expanded self." Sometimes
I even feel connected to what I'll later describe as the "Dreamer
of life."

Robert: So in a regular dream, you consider the dream creator as
apart from the dream actor. But in a lucid dream, you are aware
that the dream creator is also a portion of the dream actor, and
in that sense, the awareness is expanded. Right?

Beverly: Yes, but I'd clarify that in a regular, non-lucid dream,
from the "perspective" of the dream actor, the dream creator seems
to be separate or actually never even considered.

Although I usually say that my dream exists in my physical self's
mind, it usually feels as though my dream self, whom you have
called the dream actor, and my physical self exist in separate
dimensions, and when I "wake up", I change dimensions (or
perspectives.) Most importantly, when I become lucid, I feel that
my thoughts definitely do not come from my dream self's mind or
brain, but from my physical self's mind. For example, my dream
self will often have a different life, history, motivations, and
goals than my physical self.

So, to summarize, in a lucid dream I usually experience myself in
a 3-dimensional, vivid world that I believe my physical self's
mind has created. Therefore, I feel safe because I feel I exist in
my physical self's mind and not in physical reality (where my
physical body resides). Because I see the dream as being created
by my physical self's mind, I also know that anything I (the
dreamer) can imagine can happen. By believing that everyone and
everything around me in the dream, including my dream self and
other dream characters, exists in my physical self's mind, I
experience everyone as "one", or "made of the same substance" and
all "parts of a whole."

Robert: Okay, I think I am following you. How does this relate to
lucid living?

Beverly: When I view my waking life as a dream, a dream in which I
know I am dreaming (to various degrees, of course), I call this
lucid living. Waking life may feel 'real' and unlike a 'dream,'
merely because I lack lucidity, just as non-lucid dreams can feel
like physical reality, until I become lucid. I try to view life as
an "actual dream" and not to merely use lucid living as a therapy
or philosophy. The assumptions that come from viewing life as a
dream can be very powerful and can expand what we feel is possible
in life.

If I look at waking life as a dream, then I can also use lucid
dreaming techniques that I learned from my sleeping dream
experiences, to more easily become lucid in my waking life. When
lucid in waking life, I can become more "free", have fun,
accomplish goals, feel connected, and maybe even experience magic
in my waking life, as I have in my sleeping lucid dreams.

Robert: So you try to transpose the lessons and experiences of
achieving results in lucid dreaming, to the world of waking
reality. In so doing, you have used this knowledge and perception
to support your experience of lucid living.

Beverly: In lucid living, I think of our physical selves as dream
selves in a dream called "waking life." I also imagine a Dreamer
who is dreaming our lives. Note the capital "D" to distinguish
from the use of dreamer as part of a physical self's mind.
Sometimes, I view this Dreamer as some "Being" asleep in a bed in
another dimension. Other times, I view the Dreamer as a
nonphysical "God" or an all-encompassing, collective "Mind." I
guess there could be levels of Dreamers as well.

Either way, when I am lucid in waking life, I sense a connection
to this Dreamer, whom I sometimes call my Higher-Self. I begin to
respond to things from the perspective of this Dreamer. As in a
lucid sleeping dream, I feel "safe," I believe in "limitless
possibilities", and I see everyone in waking life as "one" or
"parts of a whole."

Robert: So how do you suggest one go about achieving this state,
and living waking life lucidly?

Beverly: Throughout my life, I have developed techniques for
becoming lucid in my sleeping dreams, and I have found there are
many uses for lucid dreaming. Some of these uses include:
psychological development, trying new behaviors, healing, and
more. I've found that all of my techniques, below, can apply,
whether we find ourselves asleep or awake, i.e., in sleeping
dreams or in waking life.

To become lucid in my sleeping dreams, or in my waking life, I
often look for unusual or impossible situations. In my sleeping
dreams, I will often see someone who has died and that will clue
me that I am dreaming. At times, in my waking life, especially
during tense situations, I look for the unusual and wonder if I am
dreaming. Without knowing for sure, I begin to find more evidence,
my reactions turn powerful, and I began to relax.
Robert: In other words, you use odd actions or events as a notice
to step back from the event and become more broadly aware, just as
we all do in lucid dreams. This is opposed to regular dreams or
regular waking life, where, unaware, we let ourselves get more
drawn into the odd or fearful event. In lucid living, you act like
your lucid dreaming self, right?

Beverly: Yes, sometimes I "act as if," or pretend I am dreaming. I
often ask myself, or others, if I am dreaming. I also make sure to
"test" if I am dreaming. An example of a test is when I try to
float. If I do float, I know I am dreaming for sure, and I become
lucid. I have not floated in my waking life, but I do not rule it
out as an impossibility. I have become more open, for example, to
stories of yogis levitating.

Another valuable technique is to review recurring dreams and
nightmares and practice imagining myself having new reactions. I
have learned to modify my reaction to a monster in a recurring
sleep-state nightmare. I have also changed my response to friends
at key times in waking life. The key involves viewing the monster
as part of my physical self's mind, in the case of the nightmare.
In the waking life situation, I view my friends as part of my
Higher-Self, or the Dreamer of life.

When trying to become lucid in my sleeping dreams, and in my
waking life, I find it valuable to get myself motivated. For
example, I can teach or take a class on lucid dreaming or lucid
living. It helps to record, share, and visualize my sleeping
dreams and my waking life situations. I especially like to do
exercises to help me become lucid in both sleeping dreams, and in
waking life.

Robert: Could you tell us about a possible exercise to become more
lucid in either state?

Beverly: Here is an example of an exercise. I stop and I ask
myself if I could be dreaming several times a day, perhaps every
time I wash my hands, or climb down steps, or do some activity
that doesn't happen too often or too seldom. What I practice while
awake, I eventually find myself doing in my sleeping dreams, so
this technique helps me become lucid both in my waking and
sleeping states.

One of the most valuable tools I have used for motivating me to
become lucid in sleeping dreams involves setting goals. Sometimes,
I become lucid and decide not to change the direction of my dream,
in order to carry out a goal. In this case, I go with the flow of
the dream. However, when I do have an interesting goal, I get
motivated to become and remain lucid. In my lucid dreaming
classes, I suggest that my students start with a simple goal to
accomplish in their lucid dream. I ask them to decide the first
steps that they can accomplish from wherever they might find
themselves, and I tell them to decide this ahead of time, while
awake. I find that a goal of "becoming lucid" does not work as
well as a goal of doing something fun in the limitless world of
dreams. This applies to waking life as well.

As a sleeping lucid dreamer, I learned to remain in my dreams, to
wake up out of them, to change them, to go back into them, to
become more lucid, and to accomplish intricate goals within them.
I would like to do this in my waking state as well.

Robert: Well that sounds like something anyone could try. But what
about lucid living?

Beverly: There are aspects of lucid dreaming that apply to lucid
living and can help us live our lives more fully. In waking life,
we may identify our physical bodies with our selves. The same
thought occurs in non-lucid dreams, where we identify our dream
bodies with our selves. We may believe that if our dream body
dies, we die. We feel this way because we are not aware of our
physical self in non-lucid dreams. We continue to feel this way
until we wake up out of the dream and discover that the dream
happened in our "mind" and not in "reality". We think, after the
fact that we could have responded differently had we realized that
we'd dreamed.

Of course, even in sleeping lucid dreams, we might not, for
example, jump off a cliff, if we didn't feel positive that we were
dreaming, and that we could, for example, merely fly away. We
might just continue to dream that we had a very bad accident.

In general, after waking up from dreams, we don't think that our
dream bodies have 'died,' but understand that we have merely
switched focus. Will we someday wake up out of our lives and
merely change focus as well?

Our goal, then, in lucid living, involves learning to respond
differently, at times, and with less fear in our waking lives. We
do not need to wait until 'after the fact' to realize that we
could have responded more fully and with more freedom in our
lives. Instead, we can 'wake up within our waking life!'

Robert: It's interesting in lucid dreaming, and perhaps this goes
for lucid living as well, that a broader awareness leads to the
realization of a new type of relationship with the so-called
reality around you. In turn, the aware person begins to act in
that so-called reality in a new way. In lucid living, are one's
actions different?

Beverly: Yes. For example, lucid dreamers have experienced the
amazing feeling of having an exciting goal for a dream and making
it happen. We can experience the joy of making things happen more
often in our waking state, by learning to become lucid in waking
life and set upon accomplishing tasks with a new outlook that
anything is possible. At the very least, we can probably gain an
understanding of how we may block our selves and try again,
knowing we have endless possibilities.

An example, from an early stage of my sleeping lucid dream
development, illustrates this point. In my dream, I could not fly
to my destination because I kept hitting telephone poles. When I
decided that "this is my dream," I was able to fly right through
the poles. I also realized that it was my physical self's mind
that created the telephone poles to begin with!

When we increase our lucidity in waking life, we can also feel a
sense of oneness with everyone and everything. We can live as if
our Higher-Self does indeed "create our own reality." We can
experience an altered state of consciousness, and at the extreme,
we can have what one might call "mystical experiences."

Robert: Okay, but even in some of our lucid dreams, we become
frustrated - we can't fly very well, or the dream characters won't
do what we want them to do. What about those cases?

Beverly: In lucid dreams, I try to remember that all the dream
characters make up parts of my dreamer's mind. Similarly, the next
time we find ourselves in an undesirable situation in our waking
life, we can take action with the belief that other people make up
parts of our Higher-Self, the Dreamer.

This can help us to stop and listen to what others have to say,
not because we have been taught to, but because we want to
understand the Dreamer. Like puppets who act as though they are
separate and disconnected, we often feel disconnected. Using the
puppet analogy, we can begin to identify more with the puppeteer,
realizing that it is the puppeteer who makes everything happen.

Robert: Well, I'm not too happy with the word, "puppet", but I do
get the point that the creator of the dream/waking reality is also
involved, consciously or not, with the creations in that
dream/waking reality. So there is a connection there, if we are
lucid enough to wake up to it. Do you have examples of lucid
living that would demonstrate your point?

Beverly: Remember, the true puppet has no more or less powers than
the puppeteer. In essence they are "one and the same!"

Here are a few examples of how I have become lucid in my waking
life. Once, during an argument with my cousin in the waking state,
I suddenly stopped to think, "If I look at this as a dream right
now, then my cousin actually expresses a part of the Dreamer (my
Higher-Self.) At that exact moment, I acted from the perspective
of the Dreamer, and she actually started to explain how our points
of view seemed related instead of opposed.

Another time, a friend, in the waking state, was yelling and
hovering over me like the witches from my sleeping dreams. I
noticed the similarities to the witch nightmares, and I saw this
as a pattern in my life. The situation actually happened in the
same physical place in my house with different people. I faced up
to my friend like I faced up to the witches, without fear, but
with acceptance, and my friend suddenly stopped, walked away, and
the pattern in my life ended, in the same way my witch nightmares
ceased.

My marriage, my child, my degrees, my career, and my amazing
adventures, too numerous to mention, are all examples of how lucid
living has assisted me in having such an incredible and diverse
life.
Robert: For many of us longtime lucid dreamers, we have similar
stories. But do you think these ideas can be accepted by someone
new to lucid dreaming?

Beverly: In my experience as a lucid dreaming teacher, my students
found it easier to become lucid in their sleeping dreams, once
they understood the concept and believed it possible. When they
began to question whether or not they dreamed and looked for
evidence, they often noticed something unusual and became lucid.
Once they had experienced results, they no longer had to believe,
they knew they could become lucid. We can do the same with lucid
living.

Perhaps people would accept psychic phenomena, or synchronicities
in waking life, more readily if they viewed waking life as a
dream. Viewing life as a dream, gave me a foundation for
understanding how I could possibly have had my first amazing,
precognitive dreams. Psychic phenomena could also serve as clues
for becoming lucid in waking life.

Robert: You know, I have often thought that in life, we simply
live our assumptions. In lucid dreams, you begin to see that idea
in an immediate sense. When you change your expectations in a
lucid dream, the dream changes to accommodate the changes. It
seems the same thing happens in waking life.
Beverly: Yes, I believe lucid living can have a profound effect on
all our lives. Of course, as in our sleeping dreams, we can easily
go on automatic and lose lucidity. However, the more we practice
lucid dreaming skills, whether when asleep or during our waking
life, the more likely we will become lucid at all times. By
practicing lucid living, we strive to live the most illuminating,
clear, and conscious waking life as possible.

We can also obtain a greater understanding of what spiritual
practices, great writers, movies, fairy tales, and songs have been
telling us for ages:

Hindu Maya: Waking life is an illusion; Buddhist: Philosophy of
Connectedness; Christianity: Resurrection after death; The Course
of Miracles: Live the Happy Dream; The Wizard of Oz: There's no
place like home; Shakespeare: All the world's a stage; Star Trek:
Holodeck;
The Matrix: The world has been pulled over your eyes to blind you
to the truth.

The list goes on and on. My favorite is: Row, Row, Row, your boat,
gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life
is but a dream.

Robert: Beverly, thanks for your sage advice and insights. Life is
but a dream.

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The Artworker of Dreams

© 2004 Linda Lane Magallon

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"What does this dream mean?" I wanted to know, so I brought it to
my dream group. A couple of the members had co-starred in the
dream, so I hoped they could help me decipher it.
____________________
I'm in a room at an adult summer camp with several dreamworkers.
Clarke is complaining about the fact that "they" starved us all
summer and now are serving us leftovers in order to get rid of
them before the end of the season. Greg says that they are "the
therapists." "They wouldn't even let me move my desk in," he
complains, gesturing toward the other side of the room. "What is
this about?" I ask. It seems that the therapists who run this camp
are a tight click, jealous of sharing with outsiders.

Then I'm outdoors with Greg. It turns out he's a field worker. He
shows me how he peers underneath the surface of the ground. Is he
looking for quartz crystals? I wonder. No, he's looking for
evidence of earthquake faults.

When he leaves to continue searching, a dark-haired therapist
nearby makes a frowning comment that Greg was probably hanging
around, spying. "No, I don't think so," I say, watching his
retreating form as he walks down the sloping path. Then I wonder,
what could the therapists have that they would be so concerned
about? The dark-haired man has turned and gone up some naturally
carved steps in the mountain, disappearing through an opening in
the rock. I follow him.

When I get to the top and look through the archway, I am amazed.
Inside is a room with the feel of a Renaissance art workshop. Here
the therapists have secreted all these quality old tools to
produce prime works of art which they keep hidden in closets.
There are a couple of works by Michaelangelo and copies using
models from the present (I see a painting that features Bette
Davis, for example).

I turn to view the countryside and see that there is a lake and
small canyon in front of the mountain. Some folks are walking by
and some are standing still, including Clarke, who is waiting for
me. "Hey!" I yell at everybody. "Look at this!"
____________________
My dream group consisted of people who were professionals in the
fields of therapy, counseling, education and art. There were even
art therapists and creativity teachers. I was delighted to
discover that they thought that the dream applied to them as much
as to me.

We had gathered to do dreamwork: to analyze and interpret the
symbols in our dreams and to apply resolving techniques to the
conflicts, stresses and "faults" that they incorporated. One
favorite method was to ask of the dream, "What's missing here?"
What would be required to calm the conflicts or relieve the
stress? My dream seemed to provide the answer. The aspect hiding
in the cave was the creative-artist side of ourselves, they
decided. It was the side that could draw a dream, sing a dream,
dance a dream or write a story about a dream. They thanked me for
pointing that out to them.

This interpretation made logical sense. But my emotions didn't
concur. There was no intuitive "Aha!"; no instinctual "Yes!" to
confirm the response. I drove home dissatisfied and tried out a
few more dreamwork methods. I felt the answer was partially right.
But there definitely was something missing. My attention kept
returning to those Michaelangelo paintings. I knew there was an
artisan concealed in that cave, but who was it?

The group had assumed that hidden aspect was the creative muse who
shines through their waking efforts. The one who takes a dream, an
unresolved dream, and finishes it. Uses creative process to
produce a product inspired by a dream. Uses creative process to
interpret a dream. After the dream has ended.

However, I was beginning to understand that the dream itself could
be an artistic creation and that I didn't have to complete it when
I woke up. There was an inner genius-in-potential who was
perfectly capable of producing a finished product all by herself.
And did, sometimes. Unfortunately, there was also great resistance
to that effort from the people who lived outside the cave.

The father of dreamwork started it. Freud's theory of dreams
presumed that we repress our dreams and he probably would have
interpreted the cave as a female symbol of unbirthed, unfulfilled
sexual desires. Well, creativity is a birthing process, so he was
partly right. I doubt that he would have discovered just who could
be born because he tried to repress that child, too.

Freud believed that dreams solve the problems of waking life by
disguising obvious content with symbolic imagery "in the manner of
an irrational wish and not in the manner of a reasonable
reflection." Because of this, he had a hard time dealing with
"well-constructed" dreams in which some intellectual or reasoning
faculty seemed to be present. So he demoted coherently structured
dreams to the class of "dream fantasies." He reserved "true dream"
status only for those productions in which the disguising process
was evident to him.

But that approach was not nurturing us. In the dream, we dined
only on Freud's "day residue," the leftovers of the day. And we
were starving. The dream suggested where we were doing this. Most
of us attended an event during the summertime, which was sort of a
"camp" for dreamers. It was the annual conference of the
Association for the Study of Dreams. ASD has always had a large
contingent that favors Carl Jung and the archetypal cave and
Renaissance imagery in the dream is very Jungian. Jung had a name
for his coherent dreams-he called them "big dreams." But most of
the dreams brought to the dream group weren't big dreams. They
were little puzzles with something lacking. Missing pieces, not
masterpieces. They were incomplete creations that needed to be
propped up by amplification, filled in with free association.

And that's exactly the sort of dream I was trying *not* to have.
I'd been trying to have big dreams on purpose. I was attempting to
produce a dream that was a story with a beginning, a middle and an
end, a climax and a conclusion. I wanted a satisfying short story
that I could read from my dream journal and relish, just like I
enjoyed the entertaining tales in the paperback books I took on
summer vacation. I was close to achieving this goal. My inner
dream creator was beginning to produce, if not masterpieces, then
some pretty good child's artwork. I was overjoyed at the change in
dream themes and my usual visual effects. Dreaming was now so much
fun!

So I took my tiny treasures out of the cave and brought them to
the dream group. "Hey, look at this!" I said. I was proud of my
creative child. From creative people, I expected a warm welcome
for her. And I didn't get it.

Oh, sure, they were polite enough. They'd nod their heads and
smile and make a few comments. For about 5 minutes. And then we'd
go on to the next member of the group who had a conflicted dream,
an unresolved dream that was fair game for interpretation
techniques...that would take, oh, 15, 20, 30 minutes. I remember
once we spent 3 friggin' hours on one person's troubled dream. I
felt uneasy. It just wasn't fair Ð to me, or to my inner child. It
seemed we couldn't play with the rest of the kids because we
hadn't brought the right kind of toys.

Now, don't get me wrong. My inner child has been abused, too; I've
had a lifetime of conflicted dreams. I was attracted to dreamwork
to help her recover from her wounds and she was benefiting from
it. But I'm afraid I birthed an over-achiever. People used to say,
"Oh, Linda, you are so lucky to have big dreams!" and I'd protest,
"But I incubated them!"

Go forth! Out of the confining dungeon
Into the whispered breeze.
Seize the present moment
Sure and firm
Stable house of your soul.
Sense the outer oboe rhythms
And unfurl your hair.
Dance the music of the hearers;
Sing the science of your being.
Shout the word of encouragement
Back within
The open doors.

Yes, like everyone else, I enjoyed creativity after the dream,
too. I drew, pictured, made poetry of my dreams. Eventually, I
discovered that some of those *after* effects were actually
incubating new dreams. So I switched intentions. Now, I wasn't
just celebrating the achievements of the past, I was encouraging
productivity for the future.

I had this revolutionary idea that if I'd help my inner child
*before* I slept, she wouldn't have to battle her way through the
dream. Instead of spending precious time and energy dealing with
conflicts, she'd have the wherewithal to create those
masterpieces. And the idea was working! So I brought it to the
group and ran flat into a brick wall.

At first I thought it was because I was an active dreamer, and
they were passive, but that really didn't fit everyone. Quite a
few were lucid dreamers and even more used incubation techniques.
Then I thought, well, maybe it's because they think a coherent
dream can't be interpreted. But of course it can, just like waking
life.

Finally, I found myself discussing big dreams with a fellow
dreamworker. She'd had only a couple and she treasured them for
their special impact and meaning. Didn't want to have any more,
lest they lose that special impact and meaning. Kept them hidden
in her cave. Thought that the light of day would leach the gold
from her dream treasures.

Then I got it. What do folks ask about dreams? "What does this
dream mean?" is what they ask. But some, the creative ones
especially, really don't want an answer. An answer closes the
cycle. It stops their creative process.

And most importantly, it solves the mystery. So a lot of dreamwork
methods really do not reach closure. They just produce more and
more information in an ever-expanding universe of speculation.

Suddenly my dilemma became clear. I was running up against the
dreamwork assumption that a coherent dream holds no mystery and
allows no room for unsolved creative process. But that's not how I
had experienced my big dreams at all! I had honed the art of
incubation, then discovered I was nurturing the artist within the
dream. I had learned that if I took a vacation from the
presumption that dreams are only translations of the traumas of
waking life, my inner child would stop painting just chunks of
black and blue and start experiencing the wonder and mysteries of
the inner universe.

However, I didn't seem to be able to convince my fellow
dreamworkers that such an approach was beneficial -- maybe even
more beneficial than the way we had been doing things. Why
wouldn't the attempt to produce wholesome dreams be healthy? Why
wouldn't celebrating the development of our inner children be
wise? Of course, if all we do is do dreamwork on one dream, like
it's a single entity in a vacuum, then we probably won't see that
dreams or dreamers are capable of development. We wouldn't be able
to track progress over time. I could. I kept a dream journal and
reviewed it, continually. I wanted to see if what I was doing in
waking life was actually helping my inner child of dreams. Or
hindering her.

Then, one night, I had this dream.
____________________
I am teaching the universe to dream. We start with a dream that
appears as a written report but feels sad, upset and dejected. I
tell my listeners to pick a bright, positive dream from their
past, one that was self-confident and superheroic, and insert it
into the first dream. We place it into the lower right hand corner
of the dream report.

At first this seems like an artificial intrusion, a harsh contrast
to the sensitivity of the primary dream. But as I wait and watch,
the positive dream seeds itself in the fertile darkness of the
negative one. The brightness becomes a warm glow that spreads
throughout the dream report. Finally there is just a small corner
of gentle negativity in the upper left hand corner of the dream
report, a subtle reminder of the background to this complete
dream.
____________________
As if to underline this lesson for me, my inner child then
produced for me, in quick succession, a flying dream, a lucid
dream and an out-of-body experience.

Again, I took my dream to the group and they Ohhed and Ahhed as
usual, treating my dream like some kind of exotic house plant. But
this time I didn't try to convince them to change their ways. I
had realized that they weren't the one who needed inspiration. It
was their hidden aspects, their inner children of dreams. My
conscious ideas might provide some second-hand suggestions, but
the only one who could talk their language was my own inner child.
When I read the dream, my intent was to serve as a channel for
her. Be her mouthpiece. Say what she wanted to say.

Did this work? Yes, I think so. Every once in a while, when outer
defenses were down, the inner children of my fellow dreamworkers
would sneak in some real nifty dreams. Not always, but enough to
keep hope alive. I can't help but wonder what would have happened
if they had consciously cooperated with their inner children.

My creative child had came a'taping on my cave door. She wanted
out, she wanted to play. And she wanted playmates to create big
dreams. But I had no dreamwork technique, no toy, no game to
involve my fellow dreamers and their inner children every time we
met in dream group. So the two of us played. Alone.


http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream
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THE VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE
Jean Campbell
August, 2004

Making Book

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It would be hard to find a group more creative than the dreamers
of the World Dreams Peace Bridge, which counts among its members
several published authors and poets, graphic artists and
musicians. This may say something about the value of dream work,
and it may say something about the relationship between dreaming
and creativity, but one thing it definitely speaks about is the
constant creative impulse among members of the Peace Bridge. This
month, it was a book--among other things.

You may remember that during the first year of the Peace Bridge
(and we're nearing the end of our third year now), Valley Reed
from Dallas, Texas created a dance from a book she had written
with her little girl, a dream book. Valley, who has recently come
back to the Bridge, and her little girl often create books from
their dreams. The story of "The Crow and the Phoenix" came from a
dream, and was danced at the 2002 Regional ASD conference in
Cincinnati, Ohio. (Photos of this dance can be seen at
asdreams.org/conferences/2002cincinnati/crow_and_phoenix.htm

Since those days, the idea of writing books has come up regularly
on the Bridge, either through the individual works of members or
through the impulse to write a book together, to fund some of the
growing number of Peace Bridge projects.

This month, George Gillespie, who is still working on his book
describing various visual phenomena associated with dreams,
forwarded one of his early short stories (based on a dream) "The
Gold Bottle" to be put up on the World Dreams web site at
http://worlddreamspeacebridge.org/georgestory.htm .

May Tung, who recently finished her memoir about life in China and
other parts of the world, has offered encouragement to other
writers on the Bridge, including Donna Stein, whose editorial work
has brought to life the journal Tiferet (
http://www.tiferetjournal.com/ ); Jeremy Seligson, who read from
his most recent book of poetry (accompanied in dance and reading
by daughter Eloisa); and Jean Campbell, who finished the first
Dream Scouts Adventure book, *Under the Crystal Tree* this year (
www.imageproject.org/scouts ).

All in all, a pretty verbal bunch.

During August though, Ralf began a conversation about dreaming
monsters. And I (having had considerable experience with monsters)
quoted the man who taught me Energetic Metatherapy, a form of
bioenergetic therapy, Hector Kuri-Cano, Ph.D., from Guadalajara,
Mexico. "Our monsters hold our energy," Hector would say. "We need
to get acquainted with our monsters, learn to love our monsters."

I recounted the story of how, after having encountered a
particularly frightening monster during a period of awake sleep
paralysis, I got acquainted with this aspect of myself by taking
my monster for a walk in the park.

This is not quite so absurd as it sounds, when you consider that I
actually walk each morning in a park near my house. Since it is
daybreak when I walk, and there are very few people around, I felt
comfortable to act out my monster while walking, kicking plastic
trash cans and making claws of my hands.

This story brought a response from Victoria Quinton in Australia,
who sent a link to a photo of a dream drawing her daughter Emily
had done at age six. In the drawing, a little girl walks a dragon
on a chain. The dragon is floating higher than the house.

In turn, Emily's drawing sparked the fire of creativity in Kathy
Turner, who promptly wrote a story for a children's picture book,
*The Little Dragon Walker.*

"Wouldn't it' be great," Kathy said, "if the book could find a
publisher and be sold with benefits going to the Aid for
Traumatized Children Project? (See the story of this project and
current World dreams work in Baghdad at
http://worlddreamspeacebridge.org/aidforchildren.htm ).

And that question set off a flurry of activity. People began
sending links to their favorite publishers, talked about the best
way to approach a publishing house, and wondered about how to
illustrate such a manuscript.

Then another delightful thin happened. Joy Fatooh, who works as a
wildlife biologist but is also a wonderfully talented illustrator,
volunteered to provide the illustrations. (See samples of Joy's
work at http://fatooh.org/art/ ).

It appears that, in matters of creativity as well as in matters of
dreams, the synergy of group process can lead everyone involved to
greater levels of productivity--not to mention exuberant
enjoyment.

Should anyone who reads this, know of a publisher who might be
interested in *The Little Dragon Walker* or other dream-related
stories, we hope you will let us know. You can write to me
directly, at jccampb@aol.com, or you can send an email from the
"contact us" section of the web site at
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org





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Dream: On Thin Ice

Stan Kulikowski II

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DATE : 23 aug 2004 06:10
DREAM : on thin ice

=( yesterday was sunday. most of the day i sat in a chair reading
another romantic escape novel. my feet ache when i walk and my
right leg hurts most of the time from the nerve damage of late
onset diabetes which i acquired this summer. just today i started
measuring what little i eat, but the labels are not very clear on
several of the packaged soup tins. i got to bed around midnight
and was to sleep within an hour, mostly due to the pain pills and
the sleeping pills which have me sleeping more six hours a night
now, but rarely do i dream anymore. )=

there is a loud cracking sound and i hear a man yell. looking over
to the side i see him throw his arms out, trying to achieve a
balance, but the ground underneath him is fracturing rapidly into
little cubes. soon there is not enough surface to sustain him and
the man falls rapidly into a puddle of blood. with a cry of
despair, his body sinks out of sight. his hands extended upwards
towards heaven in hope of rescue are the last i see of him. no one
ever tries to swim in the karmic blood sea that underlies india.

from the edges of the hole where the man just sank, i can see that
the white crystalline crust is about six to ten centimeters thick.
i know from experience that the floating shards are not cold like
ice, but we refer to the slippery crust that we walk on as 'ice'
anyway. the blood sea underneath is slightly less than body
temperature and it never congeals.

i hurry past the place where the doomed man sank. eventually,
perhaps in weeks or months, this newly opened hole will fuse back
together, but everyone knows that the crust is always weakened in
the place of a recent death. as i walk, the line of my crack
extends under me step by step.

everyone in india leaves a mark of their karma extending as a
fracture line behind them. this crack usually does not make any
sound unless you happen to cross your own line. then a circular
hole appears at the juncture with a slight pinging sound as a
squirt of the blood spurts up on the surface. perforated juncture
holes will eventually heal over, but the fault lines which create
them do not. junctures usually happen only from crossing your own
path, so our movements here are very deliberate. never cross your
own lines, especially in a small confined area. but in some cases
your karma may interact sufficiently with some one else to create
a mutual zone of rupture. if you know a person well enough, you
understand how to avoid crossing their lines in the confusing mass
of cracks in the land. but, as fate has it, karma extends over
different lifetimes, so two strangers in this life may meet to
find the surface beneath them breaks open and suddenly swallows
them.

soon i greet a friend of mine. i keep enough distance so our
cracks will not conjoin. "i have bad news." he tells me. "i have
been to the himalaya mountains. i had thought that the crust of
the land would be thicker there, but it is not. i have calculated
that given just the right distribution of perforations the entire
continent could overturn. there is insufficient mass in the crust
to sustain the population. given the thousands of people who sink
everyday, it is only a matter of time before we are all doomed."

i wonder if there is any place on earth where it is safe to live.

=( i wake around 05:30, but it takes me a while to decide that i
am sufficiently awake to enter this dream into my computer files.

the interpretative associations here are rather obvious i think.
a few days ago i finished reading a book named, zemindar, which
was a long bleak tale about india during the sepoy revolt of 1857.
the earth being a temporary residence above a consuming sea of
despairing blood seems an obvious poetic relation to my recent
health problems. every morning i see dark blood as i perform the
diabetes tests. in waking life, every step i take hurts. in this
dream, it did not hurt to walk but every step damages the earth a
little. i suppose that the apocalyptic prediction about the whole
continent going at once is the self perspective of mortality--
since i am to die, so will everyone else all at once. )=


.
=== the arts which help all mankind
| | cannot help their master stankuli@etherways.com
--- -- john dowland (1604)


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Research Request: Dreams of the 2004 US Presidential Election

Have you or anyone you know dreamed about the 2004 US Presidential
election? For example, dreams about the candidates (e.g., George W.
Bush, John Kerry, Dick Cheney, John Edwards, Ralph Nader), the major
issues (e.g., terrorism, war in Iraq, economy), and/or the election
process itself? If yes, please contact Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D. at
<kellybulkeley@earthlink.net> for inclusion in an ongoing research
project on dreams and politics. In addition to describing the dream(s)
in as much detail as possible, please also include the dreamer's age,
gender, state of residence, political affiliation, and ideas about what
the dream(s) might mean. All dream reports will be kept confidential,
and if you like you will receive comments about your dreams from Dr.
Bulkeley.


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From: David Gordon
Membership Chair
International Association for the Study of Dreams
August 25, 2004

International ASD Member-Get-A-Member Drive

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Dear International ASD Member,


We've changed our name this year to the International Association
for the Study of Dreams reflecting our wish to reach out to the
many others interested, as you are, in dreams.

Today we are requesting your assistance in further expanding our
membership so that our organization can grow to its fullest
potential. We ask you to speak with friends and colleagues to let
them know about the many benefits of joining the International
ASD, and forward this email to them by clicking on this link
(http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M6498212489640878015055&iEvent=5
1237) so they can take advantage of our special offer to new
members.

Anyone who joins the International ASD as a first-time new member
between August 8th and October 3rd will receive free enrollment in
our annual on-line PsiberDreaming Conference, which runs this year
from September 19th - October 3rd. This conference offers two
weeks of papers, workshops and discussion on lucid dreaming,
precognitive dreaming and other psi dreaming topics. Participants
from around the world will enjoy interacting with some of the
world's foremost dream experts. And, after October 3rd,
conference proceedings become available to participants in archive
form for an additional two weeks.


Here's a sampling of what's available:

Online Presentations including provocative papers and
workshops on popular and cutting edge topics, such as remote
viewing, precognition, dream telepathy, mutual dreaming,
psychopompic dreams, lucid dreaming, visionary dreaming, prodromal
dreams, dream healing, the nature of dream reality, and dreaming
as a spiritual practice.

Workshops will provide resource lists for those who wish to
explore topics in greater depth, and practical instructions for
techniques or experiments detailed enough so that conference
participants can try them out at home.

Dedicated PsiberDreaming Discussion Boards where participants
can discuss each paper and workshop in depth with authors and
other participants and post specific questions.

Scheduled Chats each week of the conference with presenters
and/or other experts on cutting edge topics.

Numerous PsiberDreaming Events where participants can test
their skills and explore different facets of paranormal dreaming,
including dream telepathy and remote viewing, precognition, and
mutual dreaming. Judges will evaluate how well dreamers tune into
designated targets, or how well dreamers perform a specific dream
task. And the International ASD will provide prizes to the
winners!

A PsiberDreaming Gallery of Dreams and Art. One section of
this gallery will feature the "best of the best" graphic images of
dream art selected from the submissions to past International ASD
conferences. You'll even be able to participate in an easy point
and click cyber tour. A second section of the gallery will provide
a place where participants can display their own dream art (with
accompanying dream text or dream poetry), sharing them with other
participants.


So ask a friend or associate to sign up as a member now online at:
http://www.ASDreams.org/idxmembership.htm
(http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M6498215489640878015055&iEvent=5
1237) . After signing up they can then complete the Conference
registration form at http://www.ASDreams.org/psi2004/index.htm
(http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M6498216489640878015055&iEvent=5
1237) .


Of course we'd also love to see you

  
there!


With your help, your dreams and a just a little effort on the part
of each one of us, International ASD will continue to grow and
thrive.


Thanks once again for your support!


David Gordon
Membership Chair
International Association for the Study of Dreams




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An expanding closet, a floating road, two cross dressers, and many
snow white doves forming a big white cross then a large tornado…
What do they have in common? They are in the Electric Dreams Dream
Section. Be sure to read all of these
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Dream title: none
Dream date: 7-20-2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I got a call from my mother's house that someone was
around the house who shouldn't have been there. I was with my
boyfriend, who was a famous actor. He took me to my mother's house
and we looked around. I went to my old room and took off my shoes
while my boyfriend went off somewhere. I went outside through the
back and I saw this guy without clothes and I got scared. He
changed into a minister's costume and went off. I called for my
boyfriend and he came in with a cigarette. I told him that if he
wanted to meet my mother and family, he said "sure". I took him to
the living room and the Christmas tree was up. I said to my mother
"this was my partner" and I introduced him to everyone. I told
them that I was gay. And he told me that we should go now, and I
gave my mother my phone number just case some thing was going to
happen. I went into my room and tried to put on my shoes and was
not able to tie them quickly. I grab some clothes and my shoes and
went to my boyfriend's jeep. We headed back to his place, as I was
telling him about my home town. We landed up in the mountains. My
boyfriend was upset with me. He said "they are really nice but you
said something to them that wasn't right". I asked him about him
being my partner, he said yeah. I told him oh yeah I forget my
boyfriend doesn't do partners. We were lost in the mountains and
out of nowhere he asked if I like to stay up in the mountains for
a couple of days, and I said yes. Then he calls hotel. We get out
of his jeep, go for a little hike, and see a little zoo. The first
animal that we saw was a saber tooth tiger and there were seals on
the other side. As we went on, my boyfriend started to walk ahead
as I stopped to see the female elks. I explained to him how I
thought they where so beautiful. Then there were these chickens
and roosters loose and started to chase me. Then I wake up.
Dream comments: I woke up because the T.V. was turned off.

Dream title: Take care of some one's kid
Dream Date: 20 Jul 2004
Dreamer name: SS
Dream text: I had a dream that someone gave me her kid, a 4 to 6
month old girl, to take care of her. she told me that she is going
to sleep all day and the only thing I have to do is to change
diapers once a day, but I totally left the kid and went out with a
group of people who I don't know who they were, although I was
with a lots of people I was feeling so lonely, I didn't have any
friend and I wasn't talk to any one. Then I came back to check on
her and some thing happened again and I left. Every time that I
came to change her or feed her, something happened and I couldn't
do that.


Dream title: Smoking high
Dream date: 7-2004
Dreamer name: hero
Dream text: I am watching a fire from a palm tree. Then I began to
put out the fire. I didn't really see the fire only smoke, but the
neighbor house was on fire.
Dream comments: what does this mean?


Dream title: weird
Dream date: July 2, 2004
Dreamer name: J
Dream text: I had a dream that my teeth were big. One hurt so I
touched it and I pulled it out like nothing. I could actually feel
the pain in my mouth.
Dream comments: I just wanted to know if it has a meaning because
my sister had the same dream a couple of weeks ago. She said it
hurt, like if we could actually feel the pain.


Dream title: Guardian Dream
Dream date: 21 Jul 2004
Dreamer name: KB
Dream text: I start in a large area outside that looks like the
college I go to. I see the friend of mine (the one I have a crush
on) near a tree crying. I ask her what's wrong and there is no
reply. Then I stayed by her and felt a rush of energy, kind of
like Final Fantasy 6, when Cyan when he found his wife and son
killed by poisoning by Kefka. I turn in to a wolf to guard her
from any one who gets near her, but no one bothers us. I stay as
the wolf to give her a pet, to stand by her and to let her have a
friend. She hugs me when I am still in wolf form. Then I wake up.


Dream title: My ex boyfriend dying
Dream date: 20th July 2004
Dreamer name: cc
Dream text: I was talking to my dad then my ex-boyfriend's ex-
girlfriend came to my house to tell me that my ex-boyfriend had
died in a fire. Then we both started crying and we were really
upset. I can't really remember what else happened but I remember
his name was printed in a newspaper.
Dream comments: Please publish this because I think it has a
meaning


Dream title: The long drive
Dream date: December 7th, 1999
Dreamer name: L
Dream text: I had to drive and I was scared to but I had to. I got
in the car and started driving, I was so scared. I could feel it -
it was like real life. I stopped and tried to get out. All of a
sudden my grandpa appeared in the car and he just stared at me. I
still kept trying to get out but the car wouldn't open. I kept
driving. Then it appeared that the road was floating over
everything and all the people. There was no room to turn around
and there was no extra space to get out. There was nothing except
people watching from below. The road came to an end and I couldn't
get out or turn around. I couldn't do anything, except for to wake
up.
Dream comments: The next day after I had that dream my grandfather
died. That was the scariest. I still continue to have this very
same dream.


Dream title: Fish
Dream date: 07/21/04
Dreamer name: beauty212
Dream text: I was with people that I don't even know and they were
telling me to try this weird fish I have never seen before. The
person kept saying "try it; it's like sushi" so I started to try
it. As I got it close to my mouth, the fish came out of the skin
and it was very slimy. It started jumping and moving. It was like
the size of my hand.
Dream comments: Does anyone know what this mean?



Dream title: None
Dream date: 7-24-04
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I was at a party. When it ended, I went to a house and
went through a window and I got caught by a lady. She told her
husband to call the cops and my friend; my cousin and I went
through the whole house to get out. As her family was getting
there, we just walked out, like nothing. Her mom grabbed me by my
arm and told me to stay. So I told her to get her hands off me. As
I walked away, she told the cops "those girls are getting away"
and we three girls took off.
Dream comments: what does it mean? Help me understand it if you
can.


Dream title: sacrifice and death - 07/22/04
Dream Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004
Dreamer name: DV
Dream text: My son is sitting on my husband's lap and all of a
sudden inappropriate material pops onto the computer screen. I
rush to the door to keep other children out and he fumbles to
erase the images on the screen. My son sees the image and walks
over to me and says so that is what a xxxx job looks like with a
big smile. Next, someone is asking me to sacrifice my beloved dog
to save someone's life. I reluctantly agree. The person proceeds
to stab me in the heart and I am fearful of the pain. After the
knife enters there is a quick pain and then peace. I look over and
my dog is dead. I am extremely upset over this and wish I had said
no. I then find out that a family member of one of my enemies has
died. I am very sad about her death; I then find out that a close
friend of mine is dead. I try calling her mother but I can't reach
her. I am crying. I am so sad.


Dream title: deep, deeper, really deep water
Dream date: 7/22-7/23-7/24
Dreamer name: sf
Dream text: I have had the same dream 3 nights in a row. The first
night I was in my childhood home town in a field I knew by a
creek. I go down by the creek and I see a little boy swimming in
the water. Then all of a sudden I see a crocodile swimming in the
direction of the little boy. So I run up from the river bed and go
to the top of the bridge and start to yell at the kid to get out.
I see the crocodile grab the kid; I feel stunned and for a moment
I don't know what to do and stand there in like a trance. For one
reason or another I jump up on the bridge side and decide to jump
in and try to save the child. I know in my heart I will more than
likely not be able to save the little boy, and more than likely
end up dead my self. So as I begin to jump, I wake up.
The second night is much like the first except I notice the water
is deeper and way more unclear and very muddy.
The third is night is like the last two except the water is
touching the top bottom of the bridge (way higher than the last
two nights) and really muddy. I don't see the crocodile, but I
know what is happening and know what the outcome is going to be
for the little boy. So I do the same thing as the other two nights
and run to the top of the bridge and start to yell and wind up
jumping in trying to save him. I always wake up just as I am
jumping in.
Dream comments: Please help me understand this weird dream. What
makes it weird to me is that it is almost the same 3 nights in a
row???



Dream title: Teeth missing
Dream date: 06-05-04
Dreamer name: TG
Dream text: My teeth are missing – it's the front upper four
teeth.
Dream comments: I keep on having this dream about once a month.
What does it mean?

Dream title: married to some one
Dream date: 7/20/2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I had a dream of me getting married but I couldn't see
the guy's face....
Dream comments: none

Dream title: Lions
Dream title: 7-20-2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I'm always having dreams that involve lions chasing me
or my family. The last one I had kind of bothered me because in
the dream I questioned whether everything would have been easier
if I had had only one child. In the 2nd to last one I was having
sexual relations with someone in a very public place and out of
nowhere a lion emerges and starts to chase after me.
Dream comments: For the longest time I thought since I am an Aries
and many books I have read state that I am attracted to Leo's that
maybe this explains why I dream of Lions. Most of my long term
relationships have been with a Leo.

Dream title: Tornado Dreams
Dream date: 26 Jul 2004
Dreamer name: HH
Dream text: I dreamt of a sky filled with white doves; the sky was
reddish brown and the doves were snow white. They came together in
the image of a big white cross and then they made a large tornado.
Dream comments: Anybody know what this means? I had this dream in
2001 and I still remember it, I had another dream of tornadoes
coming down from the sky last week!



Dream title: Murder of husband and his mother.
Dream date: July 26, 2004
Dreamer name: HH
Dream text: I had a disturbing dream of my husband and his mother,
I caught them having sex and I killed them! His grandmother and I
buried them underneath the porch!


Dream title: Interview with Saddam Hussein
Dream date: 26 Jul 2004
Dreamer name: HH
Dream text: I had a weird dream that Saddam was in the U.S. and he
was wearing a suit. The American Soldiers were shooting at him. I
was a reporter and I was being shot at by the Americans because I
was near Saddam. I was a little scared at first. I then looked
into his eyes and he appeared to have a story behind them so I
handed him the microphone and asked him "Is there anything you'd
like to tell us Saddam?"
Dream comments: That was one of my weird dreams!


Dream title: Friday the 13th
Dream date: July 26, 2004
Dreamer name: HH
Dream text: Jason from the movie is chasing me through my junior
high school. We always end up in the bathroom, in the first stall,
where he proceeds to drown me in the toilet at knife point. I
always wake up at this point!
Dream comments: This is a reoccurring dream that I've had since
junior high. I had a boyfriend in the 6th grade whose name was
Jason. He wasn't my type so I let him down easily. I don't know if
it has anything to do with this dream. My husband's middle name is
Jason.

Dream title: Tupacalypse Now!
Dream date: 26 Jul 2004
Dreamer name: HH
Dream text: I had a dream Tupac was riding a white horse. I think
it says such dreams are the sign of The Apocalypse! Ironic he had
an album titled Tupacalypse Now! I always knew he was one of the
Gods. In my dream it seemed like I was above him peering down like
watching a motion picture from above he watched me as he rode with
the herd of wild horses! I was devastated about his death and I
prayed for his soul, he said he'd be back reincarnated! I have
evidence of this!
Dream comments: This dream was in 2001 also!


Dream title: My Father Who Is Deceased
Dream date: 7/27/04
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I dreamed that we were at my parent's house at a
family gathering and my father was there with a clone of himself
who was dressed in all white. He was very healthy and happy.
Dream comments: I want to understand the meaning of this dream.

Dream title: Trip to the Moon
Dream date: 7/31/04
Dreamer name: Free Cosmos
Dream text: I am walking in a place that is unknown to me. I see
my grandfather (who has been dead over 20 years) and I say to him.
I am getting ready to take a trip to the moon!! His eyes have a
very worried look in them. He then says to me, "Thats what I am
worried about".
Dream comments: Exactly one month later I had to be rushed to
emergency room and had trouble with my heart. I had to take an
ultrasound of my heart. The picture in the monitor looked exactly
the same as the MOON: Craters and distant looking pictures. I
recalled my dream a month earlier - and realized this was the
WARNING dream - on death. Could have been my death? I am OK.

Dream title: Love and Death
Dream date: June July 2004
Dreamer name: rr
Dream text: One of my co-workers a guy kissed me and I was
shocked. He wanted to kiss me more but I said that I can't, I have
a boyfriend already.
Dream comments: I just want to know what my dream means and what
they represent.


Dream title: having children
Dream date: 7-29-04
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I dreamed that I had a baby boy and I told my grandma
to take care of him because I was going out by myself. Then out of
nowhere I come back home and I ask everyone in the house "where is
my baby?" Then I look in the bed and I see something moving. I see
that my baby has tape in his mouth. My grandma wanted to kill him.
Then I start to look for my grandma but can't find her.
Dream comments: My cousin had a similar dream that night to.


Dream title: None
Dream date: about two months ago
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: My father and I are in a room with no windows and it's
like a beach. There are some furniture and water in the room; in
the water there is a shark. The walls have zigg-zaggy lines on
them, kind of like a sunset. We can't get out for the longest time
and we climb on a dresser. My dad finally finds his way out of the
room and then i wake up
Dream comments: I just don't understand this dream at all its so
confusing






Dream title: none
Dream date: two nights ago
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I'm sitting at an island resort and I take a knife and
just start to cut myself. It doesn't hurt but I do it. After that,
I go into the bathroom and look at my face. I see that my eye is
messed up like I have a tumor in the pupil of my eye. It's all
brown and its really nasty
Dream comments: none

Dream title: hallway with flood
Dream date: August 2, 2004
Dreamer name: VG
Dream text: I am walking home from work. When I walk in the
hallway, there is a flood and all the people I've seen who I don't
know. And if I look at the end of the hallway it seems very far.
Dream comments: I don't have job for almost 7 months already and I
always dream of water big waves and sea. What does it mean? It is
connected with my problem now that I don't have job?

Dream title: Army Training
Dream date: 8/1/04
Dreamer name: Sunfish
Dream text: I found myself in line for Army training. I was
excited about this because I wanted the challenge; however, my
fear was that I wasn't going to be good enough. I wasn't the only
female in line, but I got the feeling that the Drill Sergeant (who
was a man) didn't think I should be there. They were handing out
our uniforms and they were green (standard army gear). I had a
helmet and I distinctly remember that they gave me a pair of green
gloves and that my last name was written on them. I was putting on
my new gear and then realized that my whole group had taken off
somewhere without me. I tried desperately to find them and catch
up with them. I had a great desire to be with the group, but I
looked everywhere and could not find them. I walked far away from
the camp and went up hills and trails and I was so upset because I
couldn't find them. Suddenly, I heard voices in the hills above
me, and I saw that they were running and I could hear them
laughing as if they were having so much fun. At that moment I was
very aware of the fact that I could never have kept up with them
because I am old and my body is no longer able to do the athletic
things that I have done all my life. I tried to fall in line with
them, as if I was with them the whole time, but I knew that I
wasn't going to get away with this. I was waiting to get my
punishment from the very mean Drill Sergeant, but I woke up and
desperately wanted to go back into that dream.
Dream comments: I really liked this dream for some reason. Even
though I was in a dangerous situation, I wanted to be there and
was trying my best to fit in. In reality, I have recently turned
50 and feel sad because I can no longer run with my son or do
anything athletic anymore.

Dream title: My Nightmare
Dream date: April 22, 2004
Dreamer name: ks
Dream text: My eye's open and I am standing in the middle of a
bedroom, as I look around to the left and right of me there are
two windows. Behind me is a bed and in front of me I can see all
the way to the living room. I look down and in the doorway (to the
bed room I am in) are two pairs of blood-soaked legs that seem to
belong to a man and a woman. I am too scared to move to check
behind the door to see if they are alive, somehow I know they were
dead. I blink and there are two little girls standing in front of
me with no expressions on their faces. One girl looked 15 and the
other girl looked like she was 6 years old. I realize their
parents are dead, lying behind the door. I turn to the left and
see a pickup truck driving up to the house really fast, kicking up
dirt behind it. Somehow I know this is the killer coming back to
kill these two little girls. I panic and turn around grab the
blanket and climb under the bed. The 15 year old follows me and
lays closest to the wall. I struggle to cover us both up. The
killer is in the house now. I look down and the girl's feet are
showing. I start to kick my feet to get the blanket over her feet
so we cannot be spotted if he looks under the bed. The killer
enters the room but he is not alone. I see his feet, a woman's
feet and a little boy's feet. He brought his family with him. The
killer is screaming and trying to find the girls. I am frozen and
still holding my breath. I realize that I have no idea where the
other little girl is. I wait until they leave the room and I crawl
out from the head of the bed. I run to the window on the right
side of the bedroom. I pop out the screen and before I jump out I
see the little girl hiding behind the door. I grab her and throw
her out the window and then I jump out. I grab her by the back of
her dress and throw her in a huge bush. I start to run the
opposite direction and hop over a small wire fence into a shallow
ditch. I try to cover myself with dirt but fail. Within moments
the killer is outside screaming. They get in the truck and drive
away. I jump over the fence run back to the house and jump back
into the window. I pull the older girl out from under the bed by
her feet and push her out the window. I jump out of the window and
grab the little girl in the bushes. I have both girls by the hand
and we start to run toward the front of the house. A van starts to
drive up with a man and woman inside. Somehow I know them and we
jump in. The man hands me a gun and tells me to shoot at the
killers if they come back. I blink my eyes and the killer is
behind us chasing and shooting at us. I fire one shot from my gun
and I wake up.
Dream comments: I have the most scary and realistic nightmares
ever. The one I wrote about is the most recent. I always write
them down as soon as I wake from them.


Dream title: frustrated
Dream date: August 2, 2004
Dreamer name: Cp
Dream text: There was a big party going on at a house that I never
been in before. There was a big buffet table in the center of this
big room. I had a big plate of food & the lady next to me had one
too. She took a bite of the food on the plate then she passed out.
She was on her back and everyone was surrounding her. I went to go
& turn the air conditioner up because it was hot in the house. But
I was having a hard time even though I knew how to use it. Usually
the temperature in the house is a double digit but now it was
different. There was at least 4 or 5 numbers. As I tried to change
the temperature the numbers went crazy. I was crying out in
frustration because I usually know how to use it. The people who
were standing by me looked & laughed at me, which made me even
more frustrated. Then I awoke, understanding that I was crying out
loud in my sleep.
Dream comments: what does this mean?


Dream title: dead crows
Dream date: 08/02/2004
Dreamer name: kcw
Dream text: I was in a field on a sunny day. The grass was browned
by the heat of the sun and there were dying crows, piles of them.
Some were dead and some where dying. I am an animal lover, so I
was on my way into the nearby house to beat up the owner who lived
there.
Dream comments: I was woken up by my boyfriend. I barely remember
my dreams but this is one of two that I do remember within the
last 2 months. The first one was when I started dating my
boyfriend. It was a beautiful day and I was watching him play
basketball. All of a sudden bats came out of nowhere, and started
flying above my head. Then they started dropping babies on me
which were splattering on my foot and the ground...dying. I'm
wondering if this has anything to do with my current boyfriend.
It's a new relationship; I just came out of a bad one, and have
many walls up.


Dream title:
Dream date: 3 Aug 2004
Dreamer name: SA
Dream text: I dreamt I had met two cross-dressers; one was a
painter, one was a writer. We were in a place like an airport
cafeteria or other lounge-like place. My mother shows up and I go
to introduce them. The dark one, who is the painter, (black hair
and cross dresses in a Dorothy a' la wizard of Oz manner) had
dressed like a German soldier and was acting mad. The other one
was blonde and dressed in yellow dress and was just somewhat shy.
Basically we just sat around talking. The scene had changes to an
apartment or a house, and the interior was dark and not well lit.
Then for some reason, I was driving to a remote area to a fast
food chicken joint. It was fall and I was struck by the scenery as
being rustic and crisp. But I pulled the car over and shot
someone, a small boy I think, because he threw a rock at a bird's
nest. I threw the gun over a concrete barrier and left. The area
had been staked out by the police but I'd gone through the wood on
the other side behind them to try to retrieve the gun. I think
ultimately I retrieved it, and hid it in my car and drove away.
Then I was awakened a little later.
Dream comments: Hey at least I didn't dream of rabbits this time!

Dream title: big house in rectangle form with six divisions and
pastel colors
Dream date: 8/5/04
Dreamer name: joy
Dream text: There was a very gig house where my family is. It has
a pastel color and divided into six divisions where I am
distributing among my family members.
Dream comments: what does this dream imply?


Dream title: being haunted
Dream date: 4 Aug 2004
Dreamer name: SA
Dream text: I dreamed last night very vividly that I was in a
house that was haunted. The spirit(s) followed me everywhere.
Dream comments: Looking at symbolism dictionaries, they say my
past is coming back to haunt me, but really, this felt more
tangible than that. Can one be haunted in dreams?


Dream title: the barn
Dream date: 8/3/04
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: My two cousins and I were outside of a barn and we
were tied to a post and accused of stealing something (and we
didn't do it). Then Mexican people came out shouting in Spanish
"THIEF THEIF" and then they lit up a fire in front of us and then
they tried to kill us
Dream comments: REALLY SCARY!!!!!!!!


Dream title: Running from the White Fang
Dream date: 8/1/04
Dreamer name: Fluffy
Dream text: The first thing I remember is Heero and I are trying
to escape Zech's Marquise and go find a new place to hide out. We
succeed, and I'm pretty sure we meet up with DM. The next thing I
remember is the three of us are running from either my father or
Zech's, but I think it's my father. This time around I have a gun
on me; at one point I even shoot at Ryo, and for a second I think
that I might have been corrupted by the Zero system.
We finally manage to get away, and we're taking refuge at my
grandmother's new house. My Uncle Steve is helping Grandpa in his
garden while Heero and I keep a sharp lookout for Zechs *or* my
dad.
Dream comments: The character Ryo is Ryo Sanada from the anime
series Ronin Warriors. Heero, Duo, and Zechs are characters from
the anime series Gundam Wing, and the mention of the Zero system
refers to the system in Heero's Gundam Wing Zero. All anime fans
probably know what I'm talking about.

Dream title: none
Dream date: 05 Aug 2004
Dreamer name: lgb
Dream text: I have had this reoccurring dream since I was seven
and now I am eighteen. It all starts with bad news of my parents
having a terrible accident. I have to stay with the neighbors till
I am placed in a foster home. The night I received the news was
the same night an intruder enters my home. I went to hit him over
the head with a baseball bat when he had his back turned. He
turned and caught it before it struck him. He grabbed my wrists
and threw a black bag over my head and bound my hands and feet. He
slung me over his shoulder. I passed out and woke up in a dungeon
like from the Dark Ages. There was barbwire entwined in the bars
and a guard fast asleep at the door. He didn't look too alive. The
door opened and a tall man in a black suit entered. His pale skin
accented his red eyes and blue lips. He opened the cage door and
sat on the bed next to me. Then he spoke to me," you have a
choice: you can either die at my hand or...you can join me and
live forever and serve me." He smiled and I just cringed. I spat
on him and turned my back to him. "I really don't want to kill you
so I will keep you here till you agree. Otherwise you shall join
me for dinner every night and sleep in this cage like an animal.
Dinner came and I wasn't trusted so I was chained to the high-
backed chair. He handed me a glass of wine. I took it, as he
smiled at me. I smiled back then threw the wine in his face and
slammed the cup on the table. I turned my back to him again. I
heard a low roar from behind me. Even though I was scared of him,
I didn't turn or open my eyes. I felt heat of an open flame beat
on my back and neck. Then silence swept through the room and the
cool dead feeling returned to this place. A hand on my shoulder
turned me and another under my chin and lifted my eyes to his. I
felt his breath on my face and his gaze burned. He spoke again,
"You will be mine, now AWAKE!!" Then I wake up.


Dream title: Time Dreams
Dream date: August 1, 2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I dreamed of being at an anniversary party of an
elderly, colored couple whom I did not know but felt close too. I
was just watching in the dream and was welcomed there. As I was
watching I asked the lady what anniversary this was and she
responded "It is 119 years we have been married". I looked at her
and just then her elderly husband came dancing in and they both
smiled at me. I asked their ages and she responded saying "I will
be 170 in 3 years" then I told her she did not look a day over 70
which I felt was great in the dream and not offensive at all.
Dream comments: This was an amazing dream, I have no clue of it's
meaning, Time seems to be the theme of my dreams lately and there
was more to this dream but I cannot remember it all ( I loved this
dream).


Dream title: none
Dream date: August 1, 2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I was in an underground type railway station and came
upon a trash can. I saw a lady's head and body parts in it. She
was supposed to be dead but her face looked at me for help. As I
turned I saw someone looking at me so I left that place and went
into a restroom to hide for a little bit. She followed me in there
and she was a whole person again who looked just like my oldest
sister. Then my dream switched to another scene where I was going
to a dentist. A very handsome very tall 6'7 or more man picked me
up and was carrying me. I wrapped around him in fear and felt so
safe (clinging like a scared puppy does) soon I was back home and
needed to change clothes to go somewhere else he was to take me
to. But in my room I looked over and on my bed was my Grandpa who
crossed over since 1991. I asked what he was doing there and that
he was supposed to be dead. He said he never died - he changed his
name to Cliff. He then asked me where my grandma was, so I had to
tell him she had passed away too. Then he said he has no reason to
be here then because he came back to see her. He also said that
she was his life even though he had been away since 1991. Then the
tall man was rushing me to get ready to go but I wanted to wait a
minute. He grabbed my middle sister's hand who suddenly appeared
(she was closest to grandpa) and took her in, saying "LOOK here is
a surprise for you". She was not so surprised. Then I was suddenly
being carried again by this tall man and I woke up.
Dream comments: None



Dream title: the water wave
Dream date: 08/05/04
Dreamer name: AA
Dream text: I was dreaming that I was in the water and big wave
was coming at me and I was scared.
Dream comments: what was this about?

Dream title: fly
Dream date: august 8, 2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I dreamt I was flying high and then I fell on the
floor.
Dream comments: what's the meaning of my dream???


Dream title: tight space
Dream date: 09 Aug 2004
Dreamer name: DD
Dream text: I was on a ship and there were other people on it. I
didn't know any of these people at all. I remember there being a
Chinese man. There was a guy on the ship who was out to get
everyone on the ship. I was trying to hide like everyone else and
I found myself hiding in this little locker of all places; then I
get out for some reason. Then I see the guy coming and I get back
in the locker and it's bigger for some reason. It's really
spacious and I got confused. I remember my heart was pounding and
I was shaking really bad. I was trying to hold the locker door
shut and it was shaking. I remember thinking oh no the guy is
going to know I'm in here. Just when I see a shadow over the door
I wake up.
Dream comments: what does this mean?


Dream title: haircut
Dream date: 8-5-03
Dreamer name: TR
Dream text: I have had a dream when my hair was cut off on
numerous occasions.
Dream comments: none


Dream title: guns
Dream date: 9-23-03
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I had a dream that I shot a few people.
Dream comments: none


Dream title: Wrong Way Bus or Coach on Freeway
Dream date: 08/07/2004
Dreamer name: CD
Dream text: In my dream it is daytime and I am driving my daughter
in the second lane in a freeway. We are just passing a tunnel or
long overpass. I then notice a large bus or motor home coach. The
coach is black on the top, including its windshield, and the
bottom is white. The coach is coming the wrong way in the
emergency lane (center lane) in the freeway. I think police is
driving behind in the other side of the freeway. A moment passes
and the coach disappeared behind us. A moment later we are both
stepping on debris, wreckage, wet sand in the freeway pavement. I
woke up after that.
Dream comments: none

Dream title: Pregnant
Dream date: 08/13/2004
Dreamer name: TL
Dream text: I'm not sure why but this particular dream I felt a
lot of tension between me and another person. I do not know who
the person was but I know we were fighting or arguing. At the end
of the dream he made the comment to me that in 3 months I was
going to be pregnant. I said, that's impossible (I'm not seeing
anyone). He just kept telling me over and over that in 3 months I
would be pregnant. I believe he said that it would be a boy.
Dream comments: Can anyone help me on this? I'm scared. I'm 19 yrs
old I definitely don't want to be pregnant.


Dream title: my dream
Dream date: 8/9/04
Dreamer name: AL
Dream text: I was at my dad's house where I live, but it didn't
look like it. There is a cat and it was like my kitty. I remember
her being younger but not as big like as a kitten. She was gray. I
remember saying in the dream this used to be my kitty but she
isn't the same anymore and that she was bigger. But she kept
following me around the house. Every time that I would see her or
she found me she would spin me around. I could feel myself being
spinned around by my kitty and I could feel moving and spinning.
She kept doing it and then I would make this wicked loud like
growling noise and chase her around the house. She was wickedly
afraid of it every time I would do it. When I went to walk away, I
got the feeling that she was even madder and when she found me
again she would do it worse. But she was really afraid of the
noise I would make and it definitely scared her. It like went back
in forth like this. I was hiding in my dad's room with my brother
and my dad so my kitty might not spin me around. But she found me
and she did it for the last time, but like every time.
Dream comments: I kind of knew it was a dream and I would try and
stop it. The last time I was tried to wake myself up every time
she would do it and I had to literally open my eyes and hold then
open. After that I couldn't do back to sleep, and I've been
thinking about the dream ever since.


Dream title: Dream of someone being pregnant
Dream date: August 16th, 2004
Dreamer name: KS
Dream text: I dreamed I went to a visit a friend. The day I came,
there was a baby shower being held for her. My mother and I left
the shower in the middle to go get her a stroller as a gift. We
bought the stroller and returned to the party to give it to her;
she thanked us for the gift. End of Dream
Dream comments: The friend I dream of has had her tubes tied, so
she can't have anymore children. Can not for the life of me
understand the dream.

Dream title: beard
Dream date: 8/19/04
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I dreamt that I have a beard. In the beginning of the
dream it was all regular and then the beard grew and my mom told
me (in the dream) to shave it.
Dream comments: I'm a girl so what does it mean?


Dream title: Selling shoes
Dream date: August 20th, 2004
Dreamer name: GB
Dream text: I was visiting a good friend where she worked (a
clothing store). I was at the store for a very long time, talking
to her and the people she works with, including a very cute guy.
Then a couple of girls came in the store and wanted to buy shoes.
They looked around and then they thought I was a person who worked
there. I played along pretending I did work there. I sold them
shoes and had to fill out a form saying I got 10% commission on
the sale. Then the cute guy asked me on a date.
Dream comments: what does it mean?


Dream title: the party
Dream date: 8-19-04
Dreamer name: MU
Dream text: I was at a party, feeling uncomfortable, but in an
annoyed way. My husband is with me and we are just observing
people as they walk around outside where the majority of the party
is going on. After a while I realize it must be a party that needs
a gift or acknowledgment of some kind. I go into a gift shop where
other party goers are. I buy a card and only partially sign it.
The only letter I wrote was F. Then I got distracted and never
finished it. Later I realized it was for my stepson and I gave it
to him and his wife. I told my husband I gave it to them without
even signing it. I told him now his son would know how it felt to
not know where things come from. My husband agreed. Before we
left, I sat down at the table with my stepson, who was holding his
disabled daughter. I just spoke words, nothing personal or for
information, just saying things. He weighed more than he had the
last time I saw him. He was responding back as I was speaking to
him, with no emotion, but just talking. I was aware of his wife
doing things in the background, still no emotions, just business.
Dream comments: Usually the wife doesn't take care of making
people feel comfortable, so her pouring drinks, that sort of
thing, was unusual. The step son and his dad had been in what I
thought was a good relationship till recently when he told us it
wasn't good and we should not see each other for a while. We still
talk to the disabled granddaughter, but it makes it impossible to
see her because she is so unable.




Dream title: The play
Dream date: 8/21/2004
Dreamer name: anonymous
Dream text: I was at the reading festival (which is a music
festival in four days time) and for some reason I was in a cue to
see a play there. I was in a large white and glass building and we
were cueing on an escalator. I couldn't see the end of the cue but
then suddenly I was ten meters from the entrance. While the cue
was snaking around, I was discussing with my friends about the
fact that we may not be let in. As soon as the words left my
mouth, a female usher came out and told the group of us that we
couldn't go in because we couldn't bring children with us, as they
would shout and distract the actors. No sooner had I began
protesting that we didn't have any children when I felt a tug on
my hand. Looking down I saw a little boy. Everyone else in the
group also had little children holding their hands too. At this
point all of my friends let go of their children and jumped the
cue, running in to the park where the play was to be performed. I
just stood there, my eyes transfixed on this little boy holding my
hand. He didn't look at me though. Suddenly a huge crowd of
teenagers rushed out of the field and I felt myself slip to the
ground. I was being trampled by thousands of feet. I thought I was
going to die, but just then the little boy formed a crab-like
shape over me, taking the blows himself. As I tried to get to my
feet, the little boy was carried away and I was thrown back down
to the ground. After the stampede finished, I ended up with my
head inside the gate to the park so I could see the play. There
were not very many people in the audience and they were all
sitting around in little groups. There were two actors on stage:
an old man with a beard in a yellow cotton suit and a 10-15 year
old girl with a flowing pink dress on. It sounded like the man was
talking but he wasn't moving his lips, so I guessed it was a voice
over. I couldn't hear what he was saying. Half way through this
speech, the little girl ran away, laughing. The old man chased
after her off the stage. I looked up, (bloody and beaten) at the
usher and she just smiled and nodded at me. Then I woke up.
Dream comments: When I woke up feeling incredibly dazed and
confused and it took me about an hour before I could remember what
day it was today.





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