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++ Editor's Notes
++ News: ASD International Conference
Research requests, Web updates, and more!
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis
++ Article: Event-Clumps and Dreams
Linda Lane Magallón
++ Column: The Waves: 09. Dreaming with DNA
Nick Cumbo
++ Review: Review of Jung: A Biography by Deirdre Bair
Jeremy Taylor
++ Article: Transgressive Dreamworks: Theorizing the Exceeding
of Limits and the Creation of Improvizones
Richard Wilkerson
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++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from December, 2003
Host: Elizabeth Westlake
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Editor's Notes
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Welcome to the January 2004 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal
to dreams and dreamwork online.
If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the
resources & groups you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Lucy Gillis has brought Electric Dreams readers a wide variety of
lucid dream experiences that have delved deeply into the topic.
This month she is including an except from Lucid Dream Exchange by
Certified Hypnotherapist, Lee Betchley. Ms Betchley discusses the
benefits of lucid dreaming and hypnotherapy.
Our mind is not a camera. And so our dreams are not movies that
literally represent objects. Linda Lane Magallón, author of
_Mutual Dreaming_, suggests that one way of looking at multiply
determined dreaming is through "event-clumps." These clumps of
affect, thought, sensations and memories combine and express those
things that impact us the most. Be sure to read about them in
"Event-Clumps and Dreams"
Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of
the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at
Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from
around the globe, collaborating in dreaming adventures, and
'dreaming with and for the earth itself.'
James Watson, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, reported
stumbling upon the double-helix image for the DNA chain through
his dream of a spiral staircase. Picking up on the theme, this
month, Nick sets out to teach us more about the role of our DNA
structure, and it's relationship with the conscious mind.
I'm including a preliminary piece of my own on Transgressive
Dreamworks. This is an essay that where I would like to call out
dream theorists or dreamwork theorists and invite them to submit
articles on dreaming that push the limits of old theories in an
attempt to create novel alternatives. If interested, please check
out "Transgressive Dreamworks: Theorizing the Exceeding of Limits
and the Creation of Improvizones."
Our Global Dreaming News will bring you up to date on the events
in dreams and dreaming. Send Peggy news items at web@dreamtree.com
A couple items I didn't get into the news:
- If you would like to be on the Lucidity Newsletter:
Send a blank email message to lucidity-on@mail-list.com
- The BADG website is changing its address, Bay Area Dreamwork Group members
please make note of this: http://www.dreamgate.com/badg
Our Dream Section is edited by Elizabeth Westlake.
If you have dreams you want published enter them anonymously in
the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to:
dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to
stop by one of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo)
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/
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See you in February,
-Richard Wilkerson
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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
web@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/
This Month's Features:
NEWS
- World Dreams Peace Bridge (WDPB)
- WDPB gains Aid for Children Contact
- ASD Dream Calendar Available
- Active Dreamwork: Discovering the Meaning of Your Dreams
- Bag 'o' Dreams Application
- Planetary Dream 2003 (French)
- Berkeley Dream Drop-In
RESEARCH & REQUESTS
- Bring a Dream for the Holiday Tree
- How to Apply Dream Work Survey
- Dream Plane Project
- Seeking CFS patients for study in Boston
WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Dream Journals Preparing for Death
- Stimson's Web
- BADG site moving
DREAM CALENDAR for December 2003-January 2004
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>>> World Dreams Peace Bridge Week-o-Dreamin : December 21 & 28,
2003
Dear Dreamers,
This is an invitation to join members of The World Dreams Peace
Bridge in a week of dreaming between December 21 and December 28,
2003. There are many reasons for our desire to do this DaFuMu, and
if you'd like to read farther,you can see some of the discussion
we've had about the subject on the Peace Bridge.
Like Kathy says, the name for this season could be
"Christmas/Hanukkah/Beginning of the Forbidden (Sacred)
Months/Winter Solstice." She adds: Of course we could write these
festivals in ANY ORDER!
Several members of the Peace Bridge, from around the world, gave
reasons why they feel that this time is particularly important to
humanity. Here are a few of them:
After hearing that Buddhist monks had been working to keep the war
and
conflict at an energetic level rather than a physical one, Ralf
replied: I feel too, this is an important time to dream for peace.
I feel it is a kind of turning point, as if international system
is a little bit more unstable now that Saddam seems to be caught.
A good time for playing with chance, a good time to dream the
system into more peaceful directions, me thinks.
Anna added: yes- and not only 'even though' we are tired -
sometimes I feel as though the weariness is in response to that
background 'screaming', of which we are all aware but cannot
always grapple with...to bring it into the light of our awareness
is actually Less stressful, to deal with it directly -sometime s I
wonder if the tiredness isn't at least in part from the effort to
maintain 'regular' life, while it goes on...
The spirit of the Solstice twines in so well with this, doesn't
it? -of the darkest day turning to the birth of the light...I have
always appreciated the sense that we each have to , and get to,
partake in that- by each facing up to our own inner shadows, we
can work with them , move through them to the dawn...we can turn
our shoulder to the great turning of the wheel, and right now it
turns towards Light..
So we folks of the Bridge decided to dream world peace for a week,
and to join with other groups doing some similar things. You will
find a list of specific dates and events at the end of this post,
but before you look, you will probably want to see some of the
suggestions that members of the Peace Bridge have made.
Victoria asks: What is one peaceful image you like to include? For
me it is blue generally, and the idea of candles being alight
around the world - particularly during the times that seem
darkest.
Nick wonders whether we can include general projects, that don't
have a specific date for dreaming, like, " Can I make a special
request for a dafumu for Chayim's Hands Across the Jordan project
on a particular day of that week. I think our help could make a
big difference :) My answer to this is that I would like to see a
focus on the Hands Across the Jordan project, the Aid for Children
project, and the Peace Train on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of
the week respectively. More about all of these projects can be
found at the World Dreams web site
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
>>> ASD 2004 DREAM ART CALENDAR NOW AVAILABLE
New from the ASD Development Committee is a gift which will be
given to any member who pledges $250 or more, but can also be
given by members to themselves or others. It's the ASD 2004 Dream
Art Calendar, containing a dozen prints from some of your
favoritie dream artists. Free with pledge to ASD and $19.95 from
the ASD Store: View the calendar and its contents online at the
ASD store
http://www.cafeshops.com/asdreaming.8797286
The Association for the Study of Dreams has many projects active
right now, including a pledge drive, online auctions, preparation
and registration for the international conference next year in
Copenhagen and regional activity as well. We don't always cover
the full range of their activities, so you may want to sign up for
their free e-mail newsletter at
asd-enews-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>> The World Dreams Peace Bridge finds Aid for Children Contact
Due to all the activity since the winter solstice, the WDPB
moderator, Jean Campbell, will not have time to put together a
View from the Bridge column this month. But she does report that
they have had success in finding someone who will be able to take
Aid for Children packages to Iraq.
Jean wishes Happy Holidays to all from the World Dreams Peace
Bridge. Major stories happening, so look for the February View.
>>>> ACTIVE DREAMWORK: DISCOVERING THE MEANING OF YOUR DREAMS
Saturday, January 31, 2004, 9:30 AM-4 PM
Center for Lifelong Learning--Briarcliff Campus
Emory University, Atlanta GA 30322
Celebrate the New Year by making a dream date with leading experts
from the Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD)*** at the
Second ASD South Eastern Regional Meeting co-sponsored with The
Center for Lifelong Learning at Emory University.
Learn how to use dreams to guide and illuminate your journey
through waking life. Make important connections among dream
images, colors, and story lines.
Discover the three core lessons essential for personal growth.
Find practical answers to personal and professional problems.
Explore innovative methods for extracting the wisdom of dreams.
Experience a dream group and its benefits in finding the meaning
of your dreams. Educate yourself further by purchasing selected
dream books available for sale. Bring your dreams and a brown bag
lunch. Drinks will be provided. Some highlights of presentations
and presenters bios:
Dreamwork for Exploring Your Personal Myth.
Bob Hoss will teach a simple but powerful technique, a unique
Gestalt-derived approach, that brings dream images to life,
permitting them to speak, stimulating inner awareness of fragments
of self that seek integration. You will be guided through imagery,
color, and exploration of associated emotional memories and
decisions that may have become part of your personal mythic
structure, perhaps impeding personal progress. A special closure
technique, using the context of the dream, will be modeled
to help transform your personal myths and to provide practical
guidance in waking life. A handout is provided.
Bob Hoss, MS, is President of the international Association for
the Study of Dreams (ASD), and Dream Psychology Instructor at
Arizona's Scottsdale College. Principally trained in Gestalt
Therapy, Bob has also done unique research on Color in Dreams and
the works of Carl Jung, combining various disciplines in his
teaching, writing, and workshops. He is the author of The Language
of Dreams.
Dream Mentors: Spiritual Lessons We Learn and Teach in Dreams.
David Gordon's workshop highlights the experience of mentoring and
being mentored in our dreams. Participants that dream mentors
teach us and that we learn to teach others within our dreams.
David will explore three archetypal spiritual lessons essential to
our emotional and spiritual growth--the need to release control,
judgment and attachment.
David Gordon, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and founder of the
Dreamwork Institute in Norfolk, VA. He conducts dream sharing
groups and dream retreat workshops, gives radio and TV interviews
throughout the US and Canada, and writes extensively on dreams.
His book, Dreaming the Path of Your Heart: Understanding Your
Dreams Through the Mythic Journey, is pending publication. David
is currently a Board member and Membership Chair of the ASD.
What I Learned the Past Ten Years About Working Dreams in Groups.
Bob Haden will share his experiences and guidance in this
introduction to a group dream sharing exercise. He will move the
participants into a time for dream sharing within groups-the ideal
situation for beginning to understand the positive impact dreams
can make on your life.
Bob Haden, MDiv, STM, DAPA, is a Jungian Psychotherapist, Pastoral
Counselor, Priest. Bob is the founder and director of The Haden
Institute in Charlotte, NC which offers certified training in
spiritual direction and dream group leadership on a national
basis.
Workshop Closure: Living the Dream
Justina will lead the group in making meaning and incorporating
the lessons learned during the day into daily life. Rituals will
be introduced that help keep the dream alive in your life.
Justina Lasley,M.A., is your meeting hostess and dream group
facilitator. She has 14 years of experience in working with dreams
and researching dreams throughout the U.S. and Europe. She is a
member of the Board of Directors of ASD and the Moderator of an
international on-line study group for dream leaders. Justina is
completing a book, Honoring the Dream: Leading the Way.
Fee: $80 with 15% discount ($68) for ASD members (join at
ASDreams.org) or full-time students with I.D. To reserve a place,
register on-line (secure) after January 2, 2004* at HYPERLINK
"http://www.emory.edu/eve" www.emory.edu/eve (Master Card and
Visa), by phone at 404-727-6000 from 9-4 (EST), or mail in
registration form. You will be notified of conference location
after registration * You may pre register before January 2 by
going to DreamsWork.us and filling in the information form or by
e-mailing Justina at DrmKpr@aol.com. For more information contact:
Justina Lasley at DrmKpr@aol.com or 233 South Plaza Court, Mt.
Pleasant, SC 29464
>>>> Bag 'o' Dreams
Bag O' Dreams is an application for the exploration of dreams. Bag
O' Dreams does not interpret dreams: instead it provides a way to
search dreams for related themes and content using information
retrieval techniques. You can enter a list of terms and phrases
associated with a concept or theme and Bag O' Dreams will
automatically identify the dreams that are most likely to be
relevant to it. You can also start from a particular dream and
find other dreams that closely match it in content or generate a
list of common themes contained in the dream. Starting from the
level of individual words, you can discover which other terms are
commonly associated with it, how often it occurs and display it in
the context of your dreams. Starting from a collection of dreams,
Bag O' Dreams can automatically partition these into sets of
dreams that are thematically related. Bag O' Dreams is a Java
application that requires JavaTM 2 Runtime Environment 1.4 or
higher to work http://helen7.home.comcast.net/bag/bag.html
>>>> Rêve Planétaire 2003 // Planetary Dream 2003
Bonjour à tous de la part de Sunny,
Les rêves planétaire reçus pour l'instant pour la
session 2003 peuvent être lus à l'adresse suivante:
http://psykoon.free.fr/oniroom/index.php?&act=SF&f=8
Vous pouvez bien entendu les commenter, ajouter vos impressions ou
quoi que ce soit. Je vous invite par la même occasion à vous
inscrire sur l'oniroom pour y participer pleinement :)
Profitez-en!
Sunny,
Fils de Roger & Administrateur Oniroom
>>>> Berkeley Dream Drop-In
Drop-In Dream Group with David Jenkins, Ph.D.
If you find your dreams fascinating, this is the place to go.
If you have a "big" dream one that you still remember several
years later, this is a place to discuss it.
If you have a recurring dream or a nightmare you'd like to go
away, this will help.
WHEN: Saturday Mornings. 10am noon.
REGISTER: email davidj@practicaldreamwork.com or call 510 644 2369
WEB: http://www.practicaldreamwork.com
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>>> BRING A DREAM FOR THE HOLIDAY TREE
(Reviving a BADG tradition...on the Internet!)
For over a decade, the Bay Area Dreamworker's Group (BADG) had a
December tradition: bring a dream to hang on the Christmas tree at
the annual holiday party. The custom has waned over the past few
years, but I'd like to bring it back. You are invited to join the
tradition. But this year the "tree" is on the Internet.
Christmas tree dreams are special. Unlike dreams we may present to
ourselves, these dreams are gifts to other people and thus they
have the unique attributes of sociability. For instance, because a
dream is often handwritten, I've encouraged folks to remember that
somebody else has to read it! As a result, handwriting vastly
improves. We've even had gifts of calligraphy. Of course, you
don't have to worry about penmanship on-line. But you might want
to review your dreams and break them down into easy pieces to read
instead of one large chunk.
A delightful thing happens when we shift focus from ourselves to
other folks in this manner. Our dreaming selves seem to follow our
example, in their own individual ways. The dreams we incubate or
expect to appear (like a child waiting for Santa Claus) tend to
become...more. More colorful, coherent, amazing, intriguing or
story-like. Some of my favorite dreams of the year occur around
Christmas time.
Would you like to pin a dream to the holiday string? Simple
suggest to your dreaming self that she put on her holiday best and
come to the party. Then, when she responds, bring your dream gift
to the ASD bulletin board to share. Here's the instructions.
1. Surf to http://www.asdreams.org/UltraBoardzzz/UltraBoard.cgi
2. Click on "Association for the Study of Dreams Discussion
Board."
3. Click on "Bring a Story Dream to the Holiday Tree."
4. Read as you please.
5. To add your contribution, scroll down to the last entry. In
that box you will see 4 options, 2 within and 2 below the message.
Select the "REPLY" option below it. (CAUTION: Do not hit the
"Post" option...this will start a whole new string and you don't
want to do that!)
6. Enter the all the starred* information. Under "Nickname" you
might write your full name, first name, or your Internet handle.
"Symbol" is optional. Do not change the "Subject" line. (Hint: I
compose my memo in Microsoft Word beforehand, then simply copy it
to the "Message" box.)
7. If you want to review your message before you post it (and make
sure it's all right), select "Preview your post and/or attach a
file?" under the memo and the box will become an "X." Then select
"Post."
8. Read your message. To CORRECT any errors, return to the
previous screen by using your WWW page return button or arrow. To
go ahead and post, select "Post."
A reminder: ASD doesn't allow dream interpretation on its board,
but you
won't have to worry about that for this project. The project will
be active for the entire month of December. I've already put up a
sample dream and there will be more to view shortly. Enjoy!
Happy holiday dreams,
Linda Lane Magallón
>>> How to Apply Dreamwork Survey
I am exploring career applications for dream work. From your
perspective and experience, have you identified areas other than
psychotherapy or sleep lab research, where you see an opportunity
for dreamwork to be applied? If you had the opportunity to apply
dedicated resources in the form of new graduates, to open new
doors for this work, where would you send us? Thanks so much.
Bitsy bbroughton0024@sbcglobal.net
>>> Dream Plane Project
Dear Dreamers, Light Workers and Healers
I am starting a Dreaming Project on the Dream Plane. I have
finished my studies and am ready to begin. My 7-year cycle that
has ended, after my awakening and self-healing begins a new 7 year
cycle. I am grateful for the continuing guidance in my work by
teachers, friends, relatives, students, God/desses and Ascended
Beings.
THE PROJECT AND PURPOSE:
To energetically begin to remove blocked energy and clear, purify,
bless and set compassion and love 'intention' of 9 specific
Ancient Temples on the 'Curved' matrix line across the Earth.
[Most are familiar with the 'Linear' Grid Matrix Line of the
Ancient Pyramids around the globe but these are not the Temples.]
This work will begin to open Portals to remove Old Systems of
Duality [Pyramidal Societies] and begin to open Wholeness of the
Cycular or feminine energy and the New Systems of the coming
Egalitarian Societies. The list of Temples were given directly to
me through the Ancient Antlantian Thoth [Djewty], as he now passes
the Ancient Sword of the Sacred Masculine to the Sacred Feminine
within all of us.
VOLUNTEERS:
I am seeking those who can work in DreamTime at night or during
the day. Those who are experienced with Energetic Healing,
Energetic Space Clearing in the physical realms, those working
with transformational Water Healing, Sound Healers and/or those
experienced with Psychopomps. If you are an advanced Dreamer
without these backgrounds, you will be considered with your
particular gifts of the ability to hold sacred space. These
requirements above are not absolutes. Any work including
Shamanism, Feng Shui, Reiki Master/Practitioner, Pranic Healing,
Cranio-Sacral etc. is also helpful.
The volunteer must not be associated to just one singular religion
or indigenous path, but a Rainbow person who accepts and embraces
all teachings and ancient teachings. Understanding of Lunar
Alchemy or systems beyond basic Mayan principles and use the Lunar
energy as guidance is helpful but not mandatory. Deeply Spiritual
practices of Meditatation, Yoga, Prayer, Intent or Affirmation
work also helpful if these are your particular path. Global
Reverence of Love as the Divine Energy Foundation.
PROJECT SCHEDULE:
I am setting up a Schedule to visit 9 particular Temples in 2004
and 2005 on the Dream Plane in a repeated series of Healing
Visits. Your work can be done at night in the Night Dream or
Shamanically in the Day or in the Day Dream Awake (if you are at
advanced level). Please write me personally and I will begin a
list of 'dedicated' volunteers and keep in contact with you as I
progress with the final schedule. If you are called to this
project, I seek only dedicated, serious and committed follow
through the long haul types of volunteers, who have moved into
action.
FACILITATORS PERSONAL NOTE:
I HAVE LEARNED from my personal healing journey that: Peace on
Earth begins with reaching great states of Inner Peace and self -
acceptance of both personal Light and Dark Nature, and working
towards wholeness with great dedication daily; Secondly awakening
to personal illusion, denials, self suffering or victim
consciousness; Third, into personal shadow work and integrating
darkness [creation] rather than rejecting it to re-balance the
chakra system for wholeness of masculine and feminine energy
within and lastly Core Fear Issues that arise to push through
conscious levels into the unconscious with awareness for depths of
personal Clarity and Discernment. An Awakening to the Logical and
Reasoning Minds Limitation. Compassion and Wisdom teachings with
an integration of the Spirit of Nature within and in the physical
world of Fire, Earth, Water, and Air and their Archetypes and an
awakening or understanding of Mother Nature herself as she comes
alive as a living and breathing spiritual energy. Energy Systems
within to merge as Co-creator in the Matrix of the Unified Fields
and self-connectedness to the All [Cosmic Mother Energy].
Blessings Mary Novak
13 Star Nation Shaman
http://www.LilithSophia.com
>>>> Participate in CFS dream research project : Boston Area
A major study by Harvard Medical School on the impact of dreams on the immune system of
chronic fatigue syndrome CFS patients will be taking place in the Boston area and participants will
be needed. Only those with CFS should apply. Massachusetts General will screen participants.
Participants should be in Boston area. Only those with CFS should apply. Mass General will screen
them if they fit the criteria.
If you feel you may be a qualified candidate, please contact Robert Bosnak
rbosnak@mindspring.com
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>>>> Dream Journals Preparing for Death
http://homepage.mac.com/ian20/iblog/C669912779
>>>> Stimson's Web
William R. Stimson, The first editor of the Dream Network
Bulletin, this site updates Stimson's activities in dreams, yoga
and other projects.
http://www.my-hope.com/Bill/
>>>> BADG site moving
The Bay Area Dreamworker's Group site will be moving next month
from it host of many years at DreamTree to www.dreamgate.com/badg
Please make a note in your hot links list!
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D R E A M C A L E N D A R
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Dec 21, online
World Dreams Peace Bridge Week-o-Dreaming: December 21 & 28, 2003
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
Jan 31, Atlanta, GA
Active Dreamwork. Emory University. To reserve a place, register
on-line (secure) after January 2, 2004* at HYPERLINK
"http://www.emory.edu/eve" www.emory.edu/eve
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis
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This month the LDE is pleased to present an article by Certified
Hypnotherapist, Lee Betchley. Ms Betchley discusses the benefits
of lucid dreaming and hypnotherapy.
WAKE UP AND DREAM - THE HYPNOTIC BENEFITS OF LUCID DREAMING
(c) Lee Betchley, C.Ht.
Hypnotherapists recognize the value of dreams for revealing
information from the subconscious mind and venting blockages and
frustrations as therapeutic change occurs. A lesser known but
highly effective aspect of dreaming is "lucid dreaming" - the
awareness that you are dreaming while you are dreaming.
It's an ability every one possesses, yet is dormant in most
people. Therapists can assist clients to develop lucidity or
increase the degree of lucidity through specific techniques and
practice. As you may know, any hypnotic suggestion is most
effective when the client takes some form of immediate action.
This is also true for increasing lucidity. After receiving
hypnotic suggestions, the client could buy a dream journal or
write a personal affirmation. This reinforces to the unconscious
mind the seriousness of the intention. The intention of the client
is an important aspect of any hypnotic work.
I discovered lucid dreaming as it occurred naturally in my sleep.
It became a way to cope with childhood nightmares. While dreaming,
I became aware of something that would cause me to think clearly,
"This is a dream." I knew consciously that if I were to open my
waking eyes, I'd find myself safe in my bedroom. I learned that in
a nightmare I could face my fears, realizing that the fear was
real but the danger was not. This gave me courage and created
dreams that were empowering experiences.
Almost everyone has experienced a nightmare. For some they can be
a reoccurring scene or dream. And for others it can be a fearful
experience that can cause distress. Many dream researchers agree
that nightmares are unrecognized unresolved conflicts in the
waking life. The most effective treatment includes dream
interpretation, guided imagery in hypnosis, or dreaming lucidly.
Several years ago I dreamt I was in the desert. There is a long
line of people leading to a fork in the path. The line splits at
that point with some people walking further into the desert and
the others going into this magnificent casino. A tall dark man
catches my attention. He insists I go into the casino and grabs my
arm. I am hesitant to disobey him. I suddenly realize that I am
not walking to the door but "floating", so I must be dreaming. I
am staring at the dark man and remind myself that this is a dream.
Suddenly I start to laugh and say; "I know who you are." His face
changes. "You're Satan. And you're trying to trick me." I start
flying around him, teasing him. In that instant he was no longer a
powerful evil figure but just some man. It was an incredible
feeling to know that I had the freedom to make a choice, go where
I wanted to go and return if I wanted. That dream empowered me
with the knowledge that as long as I could recognize fear and name
it, it can never have power over me. It was as if I had bypassed
years of therapy.
Hypnotherapists know the power of an active imagination in
hypnosis and the waking state. Think how much more powerful that
active imagination can be in dreaming. Dream content is as vivid
and rich as perception during the waking state - in fact, even
more so. The dream world is multi-dimensional, multi-textural, and
so "real" that studies have shown physiological response to take
place as if the event were actually happening.
Imagine developing your ability to dream lucidly. You could
rehearse an important speech, ask for a raise, audition, or
practice your golf swing so vividly in a dream that the brain
activity would respond identically during the "real" event. How
about the possibilities for problem solving, self-empowerment,
healing and even personal transcendence.
Clients who are currently working on increasing their lucidity
have had amazing results. One woman told me her waking dentist
suggested she use creative visualization to help an area he had
worked on. That week she had conjured up a "dream dentist" who
applied a "special bandage" on the tooth. When her waking dentist
examined the area a few days later, he was surprised at the
healing that had taken place.
Lucid dreaming is a skill that anyone can develop with motivation
and effort. The enjoyment and benefits are well worth it. What
could you do with the third of your life that is spent sleeping?
How could you use it to benefit the other two-thirds? Through
lucidity the line between the dream world and the waking world
begins to blur, providing unique opportunities to interact
consciously with your subconscious mind.
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Event-Clumps and Dreams
© 2004 Linda Lane Magallón
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I like to use the term "event-clumps" to remind myself that every
memory is a composite. It consists of several elements, like
picture, thought, emotion, sensation, instinct and intuition. I
need the reminder because of the intimate relationship between
memory and dream. It's all too easy to gloss over a dream when I
write out the narrative and thus miss underlying clues to its
meaning.
Many memories have a visual component that has become associated
with a non-visual element. For instance, an episode of an attack
by the neighbor's dog might encode picture and emotion together in
the formula, German Shepherd = fear. I can retrieve that event-
clump by seeing a new dog of the same breed, which triggers a new
sensation of fear. This is a common waking occurrence.
However, the opposite is also true: I feel the same sort of fear
when my boss "attacks" the quality of my work. While I'm in the
midst of this highly charged employment situation, the picture of
the German Shepherd doesn't register on my conscious mind. But the
event-clump comes as a package, nonetheless. If I recall the work
incident before I sleep or if its intensity has not yet
dissipated, the event-clump that describes the fear-emotion in
picture-form will be readily available material for the
construction of a dream. The event-clump is one of the "bricks"
that builds my world of sleep.
A memory does not have to have a visual aspect, though. When you
lose a tooth, the sensation of a lump in the mouth can be encoded
with anxiety. If a bit of food gets stuck in your teeth, then
loosens later (whether awake or asleep), it could trigger a tooth-
loss dream. The sensation alone might provoke such a dream, but
such an event-clump is far more likely to become available for
dream production if several of its components are repeated in the
current scenario. If you eat popcorn in a darkened theater while
watching a horror movie, both sensation and anxiety are felt. Same
feelings, different environment, different thought context.
A dreamer I'll call Kimara recently shared a dream with me. In the
dream, Kimara was walking though a maze of streets, in and out of
and around buildings, passing other people along the way. Finally,
she walked into another woman's apartment and became very
concerned that she was in the woman's private space. As Kimara was
trying to decide whether to go or stay, a man walked right into
her apartment, too.
When awake, Kimara recognized some of the buildings that had
appeared in her dream. When she was younger, she lived in a war
zone, although not in the line of fire. The buildings were part of
an event-clump from that period in her life. The event-clump
consisted of the image of her environment plus a certain level of
anxiety and fear.
But the dream was not about Kimara's childhood; it was about a
current occurrence that had triggered the same sort of anxiety.
Kimara is a saleswoman. She travels to various businesses to make
presentations and talk to company representatives. The offices
that she visits often consist of a maze of cubicles she must
circumvent in order to get to the person she will meet. So I asked
her, "Where have you been lately - where you had to walk through
halls or past cubicles to get to a woman's office - where you were
nervous about intruding into her space - but where her fellow
employees had no problem barging in?"
When I described her dream by stripping away past imagery and
concentrating on its underlying elements, Kimara had no trouble
recalling the recent daytime event that had invoked her dream. The
sensation of motion, the shape of structure, the number, type and
positions of dream characters, the thoughts and feelings - these
were the component parts of her office visit.
So, why didn't she just dream up a literal repeat of that visit?
Because Kimara is not a video camera or a robot. She's not just a
pretty face! She's a thinking, feeling, active organic being. Her
waking drama wasn't our movie, it was her life. It contained all
the layers of human experience, including those that would not be
visible to an outside observer, who can only view the surface of
her physical reality.
Kimara was nervous in an environment that she doesn't usually
associate with such fear and anxiety. So the event-clump that was
triggered by her feelings and sensations referred back to an
environment that was far more dangerous than her current one.
Small wonder. The event-clump of her childhood is so potent that
she will probably continue to access it, unless the connection
between image and emotion is severed and the anxiety-plus-picture
is rewritten with a new formula.
If a new, more intense event comes along, that picture might
replace the old buildings. Or, through cognitive therapy, Kimara
might reprogram herself to associate anxiety with another picture:
one that will help dissipate it. For instance, fear = a dragon. A
dragon can start as a terrifying monster that morphs over time
into a colorful legend that morphs into a cartoon playmate. I'm
not suggesting that Kimara get rid of fear altogether. Fear serves
a very usual purpose, warning us of real potential and imminent
danger. I'm suggesting that Kimara practice techniques to turn
down the volume to a level she can more easily handle.
Spontaneous life occurrences will program potent event-clumps and
some may recur as repeating dreams for years. They are still
potent, still active, if circumstances with the same feeling tones
continue to be a factor in our lives. Sometimes we can change life
circumstances so that they, and the negative feelings that
accompany them, become less and less frequent. Sometimes we can
change the images associated with those non-visual elements, so
that they are easier to cope with, or even become a source of
amusement and entertainment! Kimara may not have much say about
war in the larger world, but she has a lot to say about her own
private space. There, she can try out new ways to face up to fear.
There, she can come to appreciate the creative ways in which her
inner mind paints the components that are hidden to our sight.
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The Waves: 09. Dreaming with DNA
Overtone Moon (October 18 to November 14, 2003)
© 2003 Nick Cumbo
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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea
Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims
to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe,
collaborating in mutual dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with
and for the earth itself'
Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
James Watson, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, reported
stumbling upon the double-helix image for the DNA chain through
his dream of a spiral staircase. Picking up on the theme, this
month, we set out to learn more about the role of our DNA
structure, and it's relationship with the conscious mind.
It's commonly accepted that DNA is in some way responsible for the
course of our evolution, and the workings of consciousness. What
if it were also possible for consciousness to alter the structure
of DNA?
"Studies by Glen Rein, Ph.D. and Rollin McCraty, Ph.D., have
demonstrated that the quantum fields generated by our human
feelings can influence neurological and immunological functions at
the cellular level. These studies also determined that the
strongest "energy generator" in our bodies is our heart.
Furthermore, the energy the heart produces is directly correlated
to what we are feeling.
When we experience deep feelings of love, compassion or
appreciation we align ourselves, that is become coherent with
Divine creation. In feeling these divinely aligned feelings, we
radiate these coherent frequencies throughout the body, which
promote health and vitality. Conversely, when we experience
feelings such as anger, anxiety, fear and rage, we directly affect
the body in harmful and damaging ways.
Other experiments have shown that the very molecular building
blocks of our body--the DNA--is directly affected by our emotions.
When angry/fearful/anxious, our DNA twists tightly onto itself
forming what I call a "DNA cramp." The molecule takes a shape that
is somewhat like a rope ladder twisted into a knot. Why this is
important is that the crossing of the DNA strand onto itself
determines what genes are turned off or on. The tighter the
"cramp" the less of our DNA--the less of our potential--is
accessible.
This scenario is played out in the brain as well. When stressed by
"DNA cramping" emotions, our body produces different hormones than
during periods of inner harmony. These stress chemicals such as
adrenaline and cortisol flood our body. This has the effect of
chemically denying us access to the upper, reasoning functions of
our brain and increasing access to the lower fight/flight
mechanism. We become limited in our ability to respond from our
full selves. Our body clearly desires to be in harmony and
functions best when in a Divinely-aligned emotional/feeling
state."
http://www.spiritpassages.com/newsletter.html
Inspired by this knowledge, I decided to venture into dreaming
with the intention of learning about upcoming changes/mutations in
the structure of my DNA. I was impressed with the results:
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A LITTLE BIRDY TOLD ME
I'm in a small room. An animal is also here with me. It might be a
bird. For some reason, I immediately become sympathetic towards
it. Why, I'm not entirely sure? Perhaps it has been trapped here?
The bird somehow picks up on my thoughts; and immediately sparks
up a conversation; telepathically! The birds 'speech' is fluent,
it's words being 'heard', as though we're having a conversation in
English, only without the need for our mouths to open.
The process in itself is remarkably natural; yet as we continue
speaking, I realise there is a feeling of nervousness/fear, which
accompanies the rather direct conversion of my thoughts to
conversation. I begin to worry that the bird will be bewildered by
the strangeness of my thought processes. Surrounded by its gentle
reassurance however, I realise that this is a mental block built
throughout the course of my life, to which I must now adjust.
Letting my feelings about these difficulties be 'spoken', our
communications take on a whole new level of honesty and trust.
At one point, the bird looks on directly into my eyes. Gentle,
but also remarkably intense. I hear another voice, which tells me
that the intensity of staring at it's gaze, disturbs the rational
mind of humans, and puts us in a more spontaneous mental state.
Apparently, for the next 15 minutes, or so, it will be easier to
shift directly into conscious dreaming.
Soon after, my younger sister arrives into the room. I find myself
communicating telepathically with her also; not through any
conscious effort on my part, but because I'm now used to this
shift in attention. I can feel the thoughts just roll on into her
mind. I'm rather stunned to discover that she repeats them back
exactly as I 'spoke' them, only pausing to clarify the final word,
which indeed she had mistaken.
My sister finds herself taken aback by these new abilities, and
promptly asks me if I can teach her more about telepathy. I think
for a moment; letting her know that resting the attention on the
third eye is probably important, but soon after decide on a much
more valuable piece of wisdom, "Animals are the best teachers".
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In The Cosmic Serpent, Jeremy Narby writes of his conversations
with the Ayahuasqueros from the Peruvian rainforests, who have
praised the Serpent (sometimes appearing in the form of the
dragon) as the symbol of Life. Celestial, a dreamer from Sea Life,
described the key themes of the book for us all. " All across the
Peruvian jungle there have been found extensive, detailed wall
paintings, and decorative art, featuring images which profoundly
resembled today's diagrams of molecular biology, (diagrams which
describe the beginning of life on our planet). These pictures are
often painted with two identical snakes, entwined in each other,
who the tribes repeatedly talk about being the centre of all
creation, the DNA of life. The Ayahuasqueros claim to have
received this knowledge from two giant snakes, who appear to them
while they are under the visionary influence, of Ayahuasca (an
incredibly powerful hallucinogenic brew).
In a fascinating and seemingly strongly related series of events,
Morpheus, found himself visited by a number of dragons, who
appeared to him across a series of nights, offering to show him
and another 5 warriors "the way of the dragon"; each time
beginning where they left off.
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THE WAY OF THE DRAGON.
I am on an Island, alone, but not afraid. The air is dark, the sky
riddled with electrical storms. I hear the beat of wings, growing
ever louder and louder. Looking about me I see no one, and no
thing. Suddenly a voice says, "See; but not with your eyes, see
with your ears and mind". I concentrate and the Island is
transformed into a new place, a training hall of some kind.
A voice behind me says, "Welcome". I look behind me and there
stands the Dragon, "I will teach you the ways of my people".
Before, I can speak I'm bathed in Dragon breath fire. It doesn't
hurt me. I'm not burned. Instead all of my chakra points light up
with incredible brilliance. My body becomes transformed too. More
muscular, stronger. I'm a warrior.
We begin to fight with swords and with inner powers. I'm exploding
with power from within. "This is the way of the Dragon" and soon
it will be your way too. Suddenly we stop fighting and he turns
away from me, mumbling something to himself.
5 other warriors appear seemingly from nowhere. The Dragon shouts
to the sky, "these five warriors are worthy of our ways lets us
reveal to them the secrets of the ages". The sky is filled with
Dragons. I'm too amazed. I awaken.
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THE POWER OF THE SHAPE-SHIFTERS
We sit atop an emerald green rock, the wind blowing softly. I can
hear the wind saying something, but I'm not sure what exactly. The
atmosphere has a "Lord of the Rings" type of feeling.
A loud voice says "within the seeds of all of us lay the seeds of
all of us". In this instance a glass of liquid appears before me
and the liquid begins spinning very quickly. Suddenly it stops
spinning. As soon as it does, I see it is a DNA double helix. As I
do the 5 appear and I see a female among them as before. We all
drink of the DNA liquid. The voice says, "It is done".
I look at the 5 and they are all ME!! Then WE are all the WOMAN!!
Then we are changing into each other, experiencing experiences of
each other, and becoming each other. The voice says "and now you
know from the same seed you were made, created and maintained,
what separates you is the illusion that you are separate, your
body in the world is too an illusion of solidity or separateness.
Soon you will know the power of the shape-shifters for the 5 and
the explorer (explora??) are worthy"....
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I AM LIGHT
I am in the Land of the Dragons; I can see the landscape before
me. It is lush green and very beautiful, the wind is blowing
softly as if speaking to me, "come, come, we are waiting"
Suddenly now I am on water, standing on water, I look down at my
feet and I see the ocean filled with life, creatures never before
seen in my physical world. A sea Dragon comes to me and through
telepathy it says, "welcome one who has chosen the name, we have
been waiting for you" the creatures are light up with an
incredible brilliance. I find my self dissolving into the light
merging with it, becoming one with it.
I am transported to another place now, underwater. The five are
here with me we are all being taught to change our shape at will;
a bird, a stone, water, fire, a tree and I become light. My
consciousness expands exponentially. I am at once everywhere
flowing with each moment.
I slowly become more focused in my light form, as a laser beam is.
"I am Light", this chant resounds in my mind "I am Light, I am
Light". I am guided down the earth now as if to join my "friends"
we, in each of our forms "stand" atop a large cliff. There are
lights all around us and in the sky there are circling 3 large
dragon-like creatures. "It is time", I hear these words in my head
and yet also in the space around me. I think we all do, because we
all hold "hands", when the last link is made. The 3 Dragons stop
circling above and descend upon us, breathing hot flames. At first
I am afraid, but I soon realise that the fire is not harming any
of us.
I being to hear thoughts that are not my own. The dragon's fire is
causing us to merge into one being (it is hard to explain how this
creature looks, made of fire, light and water and clothed in
earth). We speak to the dragon. Its as though a huge chorus is
speaking, not one voice or five voices but hundreds, perhaps
thousands.
With a "smile" and a look that says, "I am pleased" the dragon
says "it is done, you are now one".
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It seems appropriate then to end with a quote from another site,
Star Knowledge, which also brings together the concept of changes
in our DNA, leading to a shift in consciousness resulting in
awareness of our oneness, and the activation of the light body.
http://www.star-knowledge.net/
"It is time for the Star Knowledge people to emerge. Their
timeless chunks of info are relative to the now. Star Knowledge
people are seed bearers of the Light coming through the planet at
this time. These Light Bearers or B'nai Or (Hebrew - Sons of the
Light) are message carriers at the cellular level. The DNA codes
are being restructured and this will allow the Light Body to
connect with the physical body. This is necessary for us to use
this body as a Light vehicle for travelling to other dimensions.
This is the millennium's new way of travel. It is activating now."
Grandmother Chandra
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Stay tuned next moon for the results of our 'Dreaming with the
Departed' project. We welcome new dreamers to join us in our
adventures.
Email: explora@dreamofpeace.net
Forum: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
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Review of Jung: A Biography by Deirdre Bair
Reviewed by Jeremy Taylor
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Reprinted with permission of Jeremy Taylor
Originally prepared for a manual for students at
the Marin Institute for Projective Dream Work
I have just finished reading the new biography of Carl Gustav Jung
by Deirdre Bair, JUNG - a Biography, (Little Brown, New York,
2003), all 880 pages of it. I also read Troy Jollimore's review
from the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle of December 7th, in which
he praises the book (with faint damns), and reluctantly admits it,
"...is a must-read for anyone with a serious interest in Jung, or
inn any of the fields and disciplines in which he played an
important role."
I agree completely, but rather than trashing the book for its
voluminous detail, (the way Jollimore and others have done), I
would say it another way: Bair's book is just NOT the biography to
read first.
If you are not already familiar with the broad outlines of Jung's
life and work, or of the seminal importance of his ideas in a
startlingly wide range of academic disciplines and popular arts,
then I would suggest starting off reading Claire Dunne's brief
biography, Carl Jung: Wounded Healer of the Soul - An Illustrated
Biography, with a (charming) introduction by Jean Houston,
(Parabola Books, New York, 2000), and/or Laurens van der Post's
wonderful work, JUNG and the Story of Our Time, (Pantheon Books,
New York, 1975.)
Prior to reading Bair's book, the van der Post biography was my
pick as "best full-length biography of Jung", and it's still the
best one to read first. Gehard Wehr's, An Illustrated Biography of
Jung, (Shambala, Boston & Shaftsbury, 1989), is also worth your
attention.
202 of the book's 880 pages, (that's 23%!), of Bair's book are
devoted to footnotes, (in tiny print.) Most of them are elaborate
references to the multiple sources that she uses to verify the
details of Jung's life that she provides in the text. I wish I
could tell you all to just ignore them, but for me, some of the
most important information in the book appears in the occasional
substantive footnotes that are scattered among the references.
The index is excellent, but alas, given the fascinating and
important information that is hidden away in many of the
footnotes, the index does not cover people or events that appear
only in the notes and not in the text. For example, it is only in
the notes that I discovered that Jung "...said he read seven
volumes of Swedenborg's writings." (p. 665) Emmanuel Swedenborg
was a scientist in the dawning age of modern science whose
researches took him past the physical/phenomenal world into the
realms of psychological and spiritual experience with a totally
fresh and compelling perspective. Swedenborg was a contemporary
of, and a tremendous influence on William Blake, and Swedenborg's
influence on Jung is very important, in my view. Had I ignored the
footnotes, I would have missed this indication of the depth and
breadth of Jung's spiritual research, and his kinship not only
with the Gnostics, but also with the Romantics and the roots of
liberal, non-credal religion.
It was also only in the footnotes that I discovered that another
of my great intellectual and artistic heroes, the American poet
Charles Olson, had an extended public conversation with Jung at
the close of a lecture Jung gave at Harvard in 1936, in which
Olson "...questioned Jung on the mandala figure in Moby Dick."
This information is as important to me in my pursuit of influences
on Olson's life and work, as the Swedenborg connection is to my
interest in the influences on the life and work of Jung himself.
Alas, neither Swedenborg nor Olson appear in the index.
Bair also offers many of her most important opinions and
conclusions in the footnotes. After giving Richard Noll, (perhaps
Jung's most vocal and determined detractor at the beginning of the
21st century), extensive credit for his scholarship and research,
Bair finally rejects the implications and conclusions of Noll's
work, in a footnote : "Noll's thesis is so submerged in bile and
damnation-by-analogy that his considerable scholarship (for which
I have great respect, and from which I have benefited) must be
called into question." (p, 741)
Perhaps the greatest service that Bair's biography provides is
that she gathers the verifiable data that answers so many of the
distressing accusations and rumors that still swirl around and
surround Jung's life and work, as they have for more than 70
years.
Was he a compulsive womanizer? He most certainly was, as
documented in many journals and interviews with the descendants of
many woman who were in analysis with him. Was he a Nazi
sympathizer and/or an anti-Semite? Clearly not, as demonstrated by
his indefatigable struggles with the Nazi psychiatric and mental
health establishment, his continuous efforts on behalf of Jewish
refugees, and his work with Alan Dulles, the prime American OSS
agent stationed in Switzerland. At Dulles' request, Jung prepared
regular and extensive analyses of Nazi propaganda and German
culture for Churchill and Eisenhower, and even recruited secret
agents to work for Dulles from among his friends and analytic
clients.
Were his formulations of the archetypes associated with masculine
and feminine a reflection of the unquestioned institutional sexism
of his time? Very clearly they were, as evidenced by the ways in
which he treated the men who wanted to become analysts differently
from the way he treated the women, demanding that the men all
acquire medical degrees and training, when he made no such demands
on the women, whom he discouraged from medical careers. He also
actively prevented his own daughters from attending university, or
receiving any higher education, while at the same time urging many
of his closest women clients and associates to devote themselves
to scholarly research on obscure topics, research that he then
made extensive use of in his own writings, most often without
giving them any public credit for their scholarly work.
Bair also clarifies a situation that has distressed me personally
since I first read Jung's "so-called autobiography" (his own
words), Memories, Dreams, Reflections, many decades ago - namely
that Jung's actions and opinions during World War II are all but
totally ignored in that work. It turns out that Jung did write an
extended chapter on his experience in that era, but since Jung
died before that book made it into print, his family heirs all
insisted that his revelations about that period of his life be
stricken from the text.
The final chapters of Bair's book make it very clear that the
struggles between Jung's heirs, who wish to keep the details of
their family history completely private, and the needs of a larger
world who require the best information we can get about the life
and times of this important shaper of world culture, continue with
undiminished vigor, partisanship, and venom, even today. There is
also an indication, (also hidden away in a foot note), that the
heirs are "in negotiation" to allow Jung's famous and stunningly
beautiful Red Book, filled with his psycho-spiritual explorations
and his exquisitely beautiful paintings, to be published in their
"entirety". Once again, what constitutes "entirety" is apparently
being hotly contested...
Jung's "feet of clay" throughout his life are made abundantly
clear in Bair's research, along with constant indications and
intimations of his genius. She concludes, correctly in my
estimation, with a sentiment given shape by Samuel Taylor
Coleridge in his Notebooks more than 100 years earlier: "He looked
at his own Soul with a Telescope. What seemed all irregular, he
saw and shewed to be beautiful Constellations: and he added to the
Consciousness worlds within worlds."
The Rev. Dr. Jeremy Taylor is the founder/director of the 'Marin
Institute for Projective Dream Work', a co-founder and a past
president of International Association for the Study of Dreams.
More information about his training and certification program for
dream workers can be found at:
http://www.jeremytaylor.com
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Transgressive Dreamworks:
Theorizing the Exceeding of Limits
and the Creation of Improvizones
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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"This may frighten us a little. Dreams are often socially
transgressive. They chafe at boundaries, championing the rude,
lewd, and wholly unacceptable."
Marc Ian Barasch - Healing Dreams
Transgressive: Exceeding a limit or boundary, especially of social
acceptability. Creating an opening between or at the limit of
dominant powers for alternatives.
Dreamworks: Approaches to dreams before, during and after the
actual dream.
Improvizone : A temporary space or clearing where as sense of
improvisation and creative freedom take precedence over plans and
structures. The abstract world of improvizones may be called the
Improverse.
Transgressive Dreamwork
Transgressive dreamwork seeks to pass beyond prescribed limits and
boundaries without define itself against or in opposition to these
boundaries as necessary conditions. Transgressive acts are often
seen as "against" established social values and norms, but this is
only because of the tight control that the dominate powers exert
over all time and space. The particular and even general 'how'
and 'why' transgressive dreamwork might take place vary according
to a wide variety of contexts, situations, events and their
informing values. These transgressions can also open up a kind of
improvised universe, novel zones of semi-autonomous creativity,
improvizones. This may be a simple as a musician veering from the
planned musical score or as complex as the social spaces opened in
ritual dance ceremonies of tribal peoples. Dreamworks (approaches
to dreams) that subvert repressive powers and create spaces where
improvisational activity dominates may be considered as
transgressive dreamworks.
Transgressive dreamwork's most basic level is the act of dreaming
itself. The actions in dreams may at times themselves be seen as
transgressive acts and dreaming itself subverts dominate cultural
attitudes about consciousness and waking. There are many ways that
dreaming and dreams seek out or encounter limitations and pass
beyond them, seek out repressive structures and destructure them,
seek out fixed representations and loosen them, encounter
attitudes, beliefs and values, and question them, display
ideologies, biases and prejudices, and expose them.
Transgressive dreamwork appears in most forms of dreamwork, though
not always in the service of subverting repressive authorities and
producing novel alternatives and improvizones.
A quick survey of Twentieth Century dreamwork may give some
weight to the first part of
this statement, that it appears in
most forms of dreamwork. Psychoanalyst Paul Lippmann [1] , notes
that the early pioneers of psychoanalysis were very excited by the
new notions of the unconscious and in constant discussions around
the possibilities presented by dreams. Patients with psychological
disorders might exhibit strange configurations of behavior opening
up the inspection of the person out of control, but everyone had
dreams that transgressed the consciously controlled system.
Freud's "dream-work" became the first model of how transgression
works at the level of primary process, and the processes are now
part of our general language system; displacement, projection,
condensation, substitution, symbolization, substitution and so on.
Carl Jung[2] was not to be outdone in the area of transgressive
dreamwork. At each level of work, the analysand finds that all
they have acquired must make way for new forces that need to come
through. Rather than stopping at the personal unconscious as Freud
did, Jung found that there were deeper forces attempting to
transgress stodgy aspects of the personality that hinder the
integration of rejected parts of the self. At each point in the
movement from personal to archetypal, the dream functions as an
index of transgression, providing just-barely-conscious symbolic
presentations of new plateaus supported by the tension of
irreconcilable opposites. These are gains that consciousness can
barely tolerate. And further, it enacts and constructs these
mesas of the soul in the crazy wisdom of dreams, in
deterritorialized area where the known and unknown form limits
past which only the partial sane, and the dream mind, can
maneuver. That is, reason is given its due as a partner, but is
not at the center of the development.
While these Depth therapies served to liberate the few who could
afford their time and expense, the group therapies of the Sixties
brewed a transgressive dreamwork available to everyone, and is now
disseminated across the globe through grassroots dreamwork
movements. Here, there is an implicit understanding that the king
has no clothes and authoritarian forms of control and
interpretation are as suspect and undesirable in larger political
arenas as they are in the individual psyche. There is no one
technique or school. These newer transgressive dreamworks form a
collage, a pastiche, a bric-a-brac collection, a kind of
hypertexted inter-net that resist any singular characterization.
Even calling the collection "grassroot" is stretching that
category beyond what it can reasonably be asked to hold, as many
of the new transgressive dreamworks combine with and emerge from
institutions and traditional therapies and spiritual practices.
Many of these dreamworks rely heavily upon Freud and Jung,
providing techniques for transgressing the superficial, breaking
down the mundane, and running rough shod over the inauthentic.
Others shift the attention from interpretative techniques to
methods of encounter, transgressing the whole subject/object
dichotomy (as in my dream and its objects) and thereby
transgressing the tendencies to treat the world as an object
altogether. Still others transgress the notion of work in
dreamwork and undermine the representational approaches by making
dreams an existential encounter with the imaginal, whether as a
conscious or lucid encounter with the dream, or in using the dream
as a recreational vehicle, subverting all notions of "work" in
dreamwork.
Transgressive dreamwork appears in most forms of dreamwork, but
not all dreamwork is subversive of authority and productive to
creative alternatives. Some tribal dreamwork, for example, has
tended to be in the service of the tribe. Tedlock[3] relays the
story of a young Hopi who tells his dream to a village elder. She
shows him how the dream is about changing his behavior, and in
ways that support the tribe. There is a value of living in
scarcity, with little water and food, and the dreams are
interpreted to bring the members into alignment with this value.
True, the dream is used to transgress the wasteful pattern of the
dreamer, and a case could be made that this transgression was to
open the dreamer to a more creative pathway, but this misses an
essential point in transgressive dreamwork as I am following it
here. Transgression has its own inner value, and when it is
picked up to be used in the service of some other value, this
"other" value needs to be made transparent, or else the
transgression is just another brick in the wall.
Freud, though he elaborated the basic wheels and cogs of a
transgressive primary process at work in the dream, then turns and
abandons his project for one singular transgressive; sexuality.
Freud may be credited with having most clearly articulated and
studied and having brought into the cultural sphere the concept of
a transgressive libido. But just exactly at the moment he does so,
he restricts this libido to a narrow channel that follows a
predetermined path of development.
Transgressive dreamwork employed in the 21st Century is likely to
continue acknowledging and developing sexuality theory, but to
have this particular Freudian representation of the libido as only
one among many. Perhaps the libido will be seen, as Deleuze and
Guattari[4] say, in Freud's pre-genital child, the notion of
perverse polymorphism, where the whole body is an erogenous zone
and makes direct connections, not with an object of desire, but
in waves and swarms of connective networks of partial objects.
Transgressive dreamworks finds it hard to swallow the whole
Jungian system as well. Even though a close examination of Jung
reveals that dream symbols are not simple representations, the
tendency to eschew the temptation to say, "This represents that
myth" and, "That is the so and so archetype" is just too great to
resist. One post-Jungian psychology has attempted to subvert this
tendency by always using the work "archetype" in its adjectival
form "archetypal" and never a noun, so that one may have an
archetypal encounter, but never define some-thing as an
archetype.[5]
More broadly, transgressive dreamworks are suspicious of any
system, group or organization. That doesn't mean that systems,
groups and organizations are never used, only that they are taken
up with a more transversal purpose in mind, with a sense that they
are a boat to get to the other side, a coat wore lightly and a
project taken on temporarily. As Plato noted, Eros sleeps naked in
the doorway.
Transgressive dreamwork in Psi and Lucid dreaming
One of the emerging transgressive dreamworks is dream psi and all
the related paranormal theorizing that transgresses our current
rational view of the world. As the Maimonides Project showed,[6]
dreams and psi are closely connected and all sorts of psi
phenomenon are amplified or more noticeable in the dream state. To
the degree that there are connections from the dreaming state to
remote places, remote times and previously designated subjective
states and private psyches, psi dreaming presents itself as a
transgressive act and theory. This recently (last 20 years)
happened with lucid dreaming.[7] There was a great deal of
sentiment before the empirical validation of lucid dreaming that
there were only two natural states, conscious and unconscious.
Some scientists rejected the notion of lucid dreaming based on
this model, claiming that being conscious in a dream was
contradiction in terms. Now the privacy of the act of dreaming is
being challenged by psi and mutual dreaming, were two or more
people inhabit a single dream. If we are in fact in contact with
other being and objects during sleep, a whole host of new ethical
and social issues arise. The notion of ownership of one's own
mind comes into question. These theorists are now developing their
own topical conferences (PsiberDreaming Conferences) within the
larger organization for dreams, the International Association for
the Study of Dreams (ASD).[8]
Postmodern dreamworks
Touted as the transgressive literature and philosophy par
excellence, the body of postmodern work seems as if it would be a
natural fit with dreamwork. After all, they drew heavily upon
Surrealism. Surrealism in the 1920's- 1930's Paris was a vast
cultural movement like the Sixties in America.[9] They questioned
authority, they re-examined taboos, they challenged norms and they
produced alternative lifestyles. They valorized dreams as a
transgression of the humdrum everyday world of mechanized trance
and social niceties, and an opening to the Surreal beyond the
mundane. One would think the poststructuralists of the 50's and
60's who inherited these values would rely heavily on dreamwork,
but they didn't.
The story of how dreamwork was missed by the French Poststructual
theorists has not really been very well researched or studied.
Whether we talk about Foucault, Derrida, Baudrillard, Deleuze &
Guatteri or Lyotard, we find they each avoided dreamwork for their
own reasons. But a few generalizations are possible. I find it
interesting that these postmodern writers learn psychoanalysis
through Jacques Lacan. Freud's followers abandoned dreamwork very
early, and Freud laments this move later in his life. "Abandon"
may be too harsh a word, but once the games of transference and
defense analysis took root, work with dreams took a very back
seat. This means that by the time psychoanalysis is taken up by
Lacan, dreamwork is not a major player. And Lacan has little to
say on the issue as a Structuralist who feels interpretive
dreamwork is just burdening the already intertwined sign system of
a reported dream with a socially constructed Symbolic overlay.
Yet Lacan brought psychoanalysis to France in a way that could be
accepted as French. Freud's theory was often seen as an
exploration of the conflict between instinct and culture, and that
this conflict found various compromise solutions. For Lacan, the
psyche itself was the conflictual intrusion and the fracture it
created eternally irresolvable. Our contact with universal
instincts is forever barred the moment we take on language.
Dreams, associations and slips-of-the-tongue are as much impacted
by this representational language system as they are by repressed
desires. In fact, those desires become characterized as an absence
around which the structures revolve. The dream no longer
represents some hidden thought, but rather becomes an intrusion
between the real we cannot know and the imaginary we can never
have. While appetites can be filled, desire cannot and must be
held (or the patient falls into the illusion and dances out the
unconscious). One sacrifices the illusion of wholeness to gain the
world. This is another way of saying that the postmodern style is
that of collage, and if there is a "whole" it emerges indirectly
from the interaction of the pieces.
On the other side of the equation, the American dreamwork movement
drew heavily upon Jung, not Freud. The whole notion that a dream
is telling us something and producing a positive product is pure
Jung. The idea that the dream can be situated in our value system
by locating its themes in religious stories, myths and fairytales
is pure Jung.
Further distancing dreamworks and French postmodern theorist is
language. The texts of the postmodern writers have been all but
unavailable to the general American public. Most Americans will,
when asked about Surrealism, respond that it has something to do
with melting clocks. And not only did poststructuralism pass by
non-academic Americans, but structuralism as well. There wasn't a
single Lacanian institute before the 1990's and graduate students
are hard pressed to find a single course on his psychoanalysis in
a university or state college. Postmodernism entered the US
universities in the late 1960's, but Derrida and Deleuze are
taught in the Language and English departments, not in philosophy
departments. Translations of their work before the 1980-1990's
were difficult to come by.
And so the two, dreamwork and structuralism/poststructuralism,
passed each other in the night without meeting. Perhaps to the
relief of many. I asked a University of Davis professor about
Derrida (Who recently had his archives installed at that site) and
he was very unhappy with Derrida being at the campus and said he
had just tried to ruin everything. Other have characterized
postmodern writers as "Men with hammers."
But here, we are going to look at them more as people with
screwdrivers that fit the bonds that keep various social and
personal prison doors closed. Instead of destroying structure,
transgressive dreamworks may be see as loosening the structures
just enough to slip through.
Since these two traditions share strong transgressive attitudes,
they may complement one another by being read together. Dreams and
dreamwork offer postmodernism a channel that is universal but
still poly-channeled, multidimensional, heteromodal and off-
center. Postmodern theory offers dreamwork an opportunity to
situate itself politically, globally, philosophically, and
culturally as well as just being an inward journey for personal
psychospiritual growth.
Theorizing transgressive dreamwork using the tools of postmodern
writers
One of the grandfathers of the postmodern theorists and masters of
transgression, Frederich Nietzsche,[10] was a sworn enemy of
nihilism on one hand, and totalitarianism on the other. And yet,
many think of him as a nihilist, focusing on the first task of
transgressive work (subverting repressive structures) while
ignoring the second (opening to alternatives). In the second part
of Nietzsche's transgressive task, he worked to develop a path
through which new heights of freedom could be reached. This leads
us to his notion of power and will. Typically, we confuse power
and will with effort and brute force. But for Nietzsche, forces
took two forms, one active the other reactive. Reactive forces
might be called inauthentic forces, forces that withhold their
essence for secondary gains. Active forces are deeply in touch
with the source that generates an endless flow of power related to
that force or set of forces. I think of Anthony Quinn in Zorba the
Greek[11]as a kind of model of this Dionysian fountain of power, a
character that lived fully his own essence in the moment and could
give continually from this source, always overflowing in its own
abundance. Often we are left with this fascist view of the
Overman, as if Nietzsche's superman was modeled along the lines of
a Nazi. Rather, his Overman was yet to be achieved, and more the
continual enactment of freedom and choice. The test was the
eternal return, the ability to live in this moment as if it were
to repeat eternally. And, as Deleuze suggests, the repetition is
from a source that continually differs from itself, not one that
is self-identical.[12] That is, the eternal return is a vibrant
repetition of difference rather than a mechanical repetition of
the same. Monet creates a water lily and then repeats these
lilies across the canvas and across many paintings. But it's not
the same water lily. The second and third repeat the first, but
their beauty is in the repetition of the difference of the first.
The Festival is not a new festival each year, but repeats the
first festival over and over and celebrates not through the
repetition of the same, but of the different.
We see this play out in dreams. Combat trauma and many PTSD
sufferers often report nightmares that repeat the same, over and
over. The dream gets stuck in a mechanical repetition of the same.
Therapy that brings imaginative play to the dreamer, such as re-
entry techniques, allows the dream to repeat the essential
differences. That is, the dream begins to morph. The Dionysian
quality of the dream returns and its generous abundance overflows
the reactive forces that seek to sap its novelty.
Transgressive dreamworks may wish to note both aspects of
Nietzsche's project, undermining dictators full of reactive forces
and the location of active forces that withstand the test of the
eternal return and open the pathway to a humanity that can exceed
itself. From this general idea, one could formulate a
transgressive dreamwork developed by postmodernism. The first part
is that dreams are often already full of active forces and
reactive which question, tease and play with authority and
beliefs, and that a dreamwork which assisted and cooperated with
these active forces will be more naturally transgressive than one
that caters to reactive forces.
However loud one may proclaim with Nietzsche that the ideologies
and powers above us are now gone (Nietzsche's famous "God is
dead"), the tendency of humans to remain somewhat less than
supermen persists. And while the world has grown tired of
dictators and totalitarian leaders at the level of state
government, there are plenty of states of mind left that are still
reactive, that withhold themselves in deference to another power,
that undermine their own authenticness in favor of an imposed
value. Transvaluation; this is the process where forces create
their own values rather than being saddled with those imposed upon
them. But before we start talking about creating new values, we
need to understand the ones which imprison us now and to be
transgressive rather than reactive.
Jean-Francios Lyotard[13] writes that we live in a world of story
telling and narrative, each of which makes some claim to the truth
and claims some proximity to the truth. Lyotard notes that each
story is situated in the context and language of a particular
discipline. Science stories are from the institutions of Science,
Religious stories couches in the language of Religion, Political
stories in the language of Politics, Psychological stories in the
language of Psychology and so on. Its like a bunch of virtual
realities, each governed by the protocols of that particular
game. And so, the way we can talk about anything becomes governed
by the narrow rules of any particular game. Of course, these
disciplines don't like to see themselves as limited and just
telling stories. So they come up with a metanarrative, a grand
story that applies to or comments on the validity of all other
stories. Note how one's life story or a set of scientific
experiments might judged by their relation to progress, truth, and
justice. Might be, but can no longer be. There is no Grand
Narrative that mediates between all these different stories and
values. There is no globally agreed upon basis for any singular
viewpoint. But if power is not imposed on us from above anymore,
don't think it's missing in how it's imposed on us from below.
Media bytes and society bits are everywhere. Commercial
infestations and shopping choices. Yet if everything can be
oppressive, then one can find transgressions in the simplest of
everyday experience, what is referred to as micropolitics.
This leads to the notion in transgressive dreamwork that we are
engaging these imposed values in our dreams. And in fact, much of
dreamwork has been about engaging values and beliefs and
challenging them. This is perhaps the reason that dream sharing is
found at the beginning of every major religion, and then later
banned by the hierarchical authorities.[14] The vibrant, novel
visions that both predict and create the authority for a force to
express it own power, then are judged to be too radical and
antithetical to a hierarchical structure.
What Lyotard adds to Nietzsche that may help a transgressive
dreamwork develop is his theorizing around the many tiny ways in
which reactive powers attempt to control the scenes we inhabit,
and the ability and freedom this gives us to find appropriate
transgressive acts at micropolitical levels. Since dreams contain
many of these acts already in relation to society, it's just a
matter of cultivating these active forces, both in and outside of
the dream.
If we don't appeal to general moral universals as an index of
transgression, what can be used as a guide to the limit? One
model employed by Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari[15]is the
limit created between coded and decoded flows. Most of our
conscious life is involved with coded territory. This includes not
only all the social rules, but also genetic and physical
organization and codes. Deleuze and Guattari see everything in
flux, in a flow and in flow-breaks. Even mountains dissolve into
the sea. Organizations attempt to code the flows into particular
channels rather than allowing deterritorialized movement. That is,
they attempt to turn all forces into reactive forces. Most of the
time, we passively accept these codes and stay away from the wall,
the wall outside of which flow is not coded. Neurotics become so
sensitive to this limit that their own inner walls become tighter
and tighter, until they can't even leave their house. Others more
perverse know where the limit is, but stay just inside the wall
and pick off vulnerables who get too close to the limit. We can
see this in those who love lunar societies and who hang out at the
edges of the school-yard. Many dreamworkers learn this game. Then
there are those who just run smack into the limit without
realizing it and find themselves in decoded territory and get
tossed back. The schizophrenic comes apart at the seams here as
the abstract and the real change places. There is no proper place
in relation to the limit. We can't abstract a position. But we can
note where and how the coded and decoded flows are distributed,
subverting the more repressive codes, breaking into them and
creating new flows. What Deleuze and Guattari offer as theorists
is an approach to this project that undercuts any conscious
attempt to reconstruct another dictator in place of the ones
overthrown. This is always the risk and chance we take in
subverting local and distant authority. Guattari's response is
soft revolution, where there are no rules, just a continual
chaosimosis, where free spaces can only last for a short time,
long enough to do their thing, but not long enough to start self-
organ-inzing. Deleuze's response is to generate concepts;
partial-object desiring machines, bodies-without-organs,
repetitions of difference, planes of immanence across which
nomadic forces traverse rhizomatic deterritorializations. Perhaps
all this work would have been easier had Deleuze & Guattari been
more engaged with their dreamlife. Again, the point is not so
much to take up Deleuze's concepts and apply them to dreamwork,
but rather to suggest that picking up the spirit of the work and
move into temporary autonomous zones[16] where the forces have a
chance to directly and actively overflow their own inner
differences.
What is the purpose of pursuing an alignment with theorists, many
of which are now dead, and the point of backtracking into
postmodern theory, when a transgressive dreamworks will by nature
seek out its own limits? Pomo theory may not be able to offer
anything more than the positive process of enhancement, which
doesn't sound like a transgressive value in itself. But for new
dreamworks to emerge, old theories need re-working and postmodern
theorists offer a wide assortment of theoretical tools.
Just to mention briefly again a few of the shared issues:
Representations. At one time, representations were objects in the
service of true copies of reality. As copy theories of reality
began to erode, so did representationalism. Now the
representations are acquiring their own autonomous status and no
longer find themselves in the service of accurately reproducing
reality. In transgressive dreamworks, dream images are acquiring
their own existential status.
The Self. Once the battle cry of individualism, the unified
natural self is now in question and the polyvocal soul is in
emergence. But freedom from the hierarchy on high has led to
suffering the infestation of the viral from below. Breaking free
of the torments of the One and the Many is as much an issue for
transgressive dreamwork as it is for postmodern culture.
Reality. Both postmodern theory and dreaming continual play with
reality and questions about reality. Western philosophy still
struggles with Descartes' dream question, how can we know this is
not a dream? Postmodern theory and transgressive dreamworks not
only question our concepts of reality, but produce transgressions
that undermine the whole concept.
Minority Reports. Both transgressive dreamworks and postmodern
theory continually give voice to and speak for the marginalized,
the repressed, the minority. This is not so much because they are
repressed and marginalized, but that this is the site where
repression and marginalization appear the clearest and
transgressive acts are possible.
Stories. It is clear we live in a sea of stories and coming up
with more to avoid this fact is not at all as interesting and
productive as looking at how stories are constructed and producing
them ourselves. The other part of this is continually realizing
the stories of which we are only partially conscious. Postmodern
theory and transgressive dreamworks delve deeply into these
ideologies, metanarratives and personal fascisms.
Self-humor. Transgressive dreamwork is always self-destined to
self-destruct as it transgresses itself. That is, if the true
production of transgression is the production of difference rather
than the repetition of the same, each act undoes the last.
Suggestions about how it has developed or how it is going to
develop drag the project back into the geometrically abstract
structural world of the ideal rather than the world of real
contact.
Again I would remind you of Zorba the Greek. Every project he was
involved with seemed on one level a disaster. And yet there was so
much authenticity in stumbling, it began to take on its own
rhythms and became a dance of life. In the end, the protagonist
(Basil) who comes to the island and encounters Zorba as a kind of
force of nature, fails at all his attempts to commodify the
island, but learns more about life than he could have ever
dreamed. Or perhaps, as he could have dreamed had he practiced
more transgressive dreamworks.
-Richard Wilkerson
January 1, 2004
Postmodern dreaming theorists' essays can be found on the
Postmodern Dreaming Page
http://www.dreamgate.com/pomo
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Books. See the website at http://www.lucidity.com
8. See http://www.asdreams.org for the International Association
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French Intellectuals in the 20th Century. Translated by Richard
Veasey. London: The Harvill Press.
10. Nietzsche, Frederich (1967). Basic Writing of Nietzsche.
Translated by Walter Kaufmann. New York: The Modern Library.
11. Kazantzakis, Nikos (1946/1995). Zorba the Greek. Republished
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Lila Kedrova.
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13. Lyotard, Jen-Francois (1989). The Lyotard Reader. Edited by
Andrew Benjamin. Oxford, UK: Basil Blackwell Ltd.
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Taylor. An interview from the Thinking Allowed series.
Conversations On The Leading Edge Of Knowledge and Discovery With
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove. Transcripts available online at:
http://www.intuition.org/txt/taylor.htm
15. See note 4.
16. See Hakim Bey and Ontological Anarchy: The Writings of Hakim
Bey. Available online at: http://www.hermetic.com/bey/
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Message: 699-001
Subject: Re: in the dark
do u overthink your decisions be4 making them? if so this could
be the reason why u find yourself going back to the house u want
that comfort and security that go along with it. i think the
lights flickering has to do with faulty wiring ie: faulty
thinking. u keep on going back to the same place and doing the
same things over and over again (which is where the giant loop
comes in) what the dream is trying to tell u is that u need to
find that comfort and security within your own life. because your
parents and that home won't always be there for u. if u want more
light bulbs to go on rather than off over your head u need to have
more faith in yourself and move on. u said they were painting the
leaves and dirt to make it look more real. ie: false sense of
security by going into that house. it's nice and amusing to hang
out with your folks (which is what the dream was telling u
exhibits in a giant park) and spend time with them but it's not
really the answer to your problems just a nice distraction from
them. anyway sorry i didn't get back to u sooner i have a lot
going on and not. the things that r not going on r the things i
have no control over. ie:someone's else thoughts and feelings.
anyway your not the only one lost in this world going around in
circles at least your aware of what's going on unlike most folks.
[ed.note: since this text references a dream from last month, I've
left the original dream here, for easy of reference.]
hen_na_yume <hen_na_yume@yahoo.com> wrote:11/12/03
I am in a house that is my parents house. The surrounding
environment is a loop of sorts, that i can only call a tour-of-
subconscious. i can only compare it, to a giant park with
exhibits here and there, and a road with a tour bus that goes
around. at night there isnt supposed to be anyone outside (like
the movie westworld). there is maintenance done at night, which i
notice at a point when i am trapped outside, lost somewhere. at
this point i observe people spraying leaves or dirt on an area, to
make it look authentic. i remember wandering around, searching,
in the dark, because there is no light. A vehicle with people
encounters me, and takes me back to the house I was in before. It
is so dark. There
is an upstairs area, where I am trying to get the lights working.
I recall trying different things to get them to work (not sure
what they were anymore). I get them to work, but they are so dim
it isnt even close to being good enough. I go down the stairs,
and I find my parents. I ask them, (because they were out all
this time, and they just got back) how do I turn the lights on?
They tell me I can't because (I forgot why). The answer they give
me is very indirect, I recall. I am only going to be comfortable
when the lights turn on. And they never do.
notes: I am leaving some major things out because I cant remember
them. I've had numerous dreams with lights that dont work and
being trapped in houses with lights that wont work. This was one
of the more extensive dreams of this sort.
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Message: 699-002
Subject: HERE'S MY INTERPRETATION HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO U!
what was smooth becomes knotted, what was paradise turns to muck,
what was in your own backyard is now too far away to bother with.
i'm thinking that things are not as they seem. that u are very
optimistic and maintain a positive view and it's not that u give
up too easily it's that u have trouble remaining motivated. that
u very often let your outside interests get in the way of your
personal relationships. u work too hard and take the people
around u for granted. u need to let them help u. u don't need to
take the world on by yourself and u shouldn't have too. u get so
preoccupied with details that u distort them and make them seem
like something more than what they are. try not to overwhelm
yourself or take things too seriously your a very literal person.
sometimes your relationships/friendships are more worth building
on than whatever it is your currently working on. take more time
out for yourself and bring someone with you. the dream images i'm
getting is: tree of life and salt of the earth (u mentioned the
rocks were cube shaped like salt crystals) i think the knotts in
the tree represented stress and undue tension you've been
experiencing. i know some of this sounds snyde and a bit too
personal but there's a great deal of too much personal information
in this dream. and your lucky most people don't have their dreams
reach out and grab the hell out of them the way yours seem to do.
the man who was with u you didn't know who he was cuz u didn't
bother to get to know him as a person but u intuitively knew he
was there to help you. let the people around u who care about you
help you. signing off for now. bye! have a happy thanksgiving!
[ed.note: I have again left the original dream in place, for ease
of reference]
Kayne <darth_kayne@yahoo.com> wrote:
I joined another group before realizing it was completely dead. I
copied this from the other post - Currently I don't have a lot of
time to keep a detailed journal, so this is something from an era
when I had more time. I also belong to a lucid dream group, but I
sometimes have to doubt the sincerity of some of the people there.
The posts here seem more like real dreams. At least more like the
kind of dreams I have (Maybe you should all be worried??).
Anyway, here's one nights worth of insanity, from a while back...
I was in the woods near where I live. The trees were strange -
They were huge, the bark was grey and smooth, but knotted in many
places. The trunks were really thick, and the branches were
interwound. I went up a hill, and on top of the hill there was a
cluster of big rocks - they were brown, and cube-like (like salt
crystals, only brown, and the edges of the squares were rounded).
I looked out from the top of the hill and I was in a large forest
- there were trees (green) as far as I could see, and far away a
large fairly smooth rock - like part of a mountain - that was pale
blue/white - maybe
like a glacier. There was somebody else with me. I did not know
him. We wanted to get to the rock to investigate it, but it was
too far away. I started walking through the bushes, but soon there
was ice everywhere. All the leaves had fallen and turned brown.
The ice was like slush/ wet snow. I broke through it to my ankles
then my knees, until I was wading through it. It was not cold, but
we could not make it to the rock formation.
-break-
I was reading a book about psychology/behavior. It was a simple
book, like something that might have been on a supermarket shelf.
Not really worth paying attention too, I thought. There was a
story in it about a woman, I think. Somebody had written, 'if you
cared you would stop' - by someone who meant something. I said,
'something was a long time ago, love'.
-I woke up
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Message: 700-001
Subject: Spiders
dream_title: Spiders
dream_date: 26/11/2003
dreamer_name: Ingrid
dream_text: I cannot remember the whole dream all I can remember I
was sitting in the bath against a spider web, which I was totally
unaware of when I looked around I saw this huge web with ugly red
and black spiders hanging on it. One
of the spiders bit me.
dream_comments: I have never dreamt of spiders before, what does
this mean?
COMMENTS: 700-003, 703-003
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Message: 700-002
Subject: Babies
dream_title: Babies
dream_date: beginning of october
dreamer_name: sam
dream_text: I dreamt my boss was angry with me because she was
tired, she had just had a baby girl. I was upset that she was
angry because i didn't tell her to have a baby.
COMMENTS: 705-001
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Message: 700-003 [700-001]
Subject: Re: Spiders
Hi Ingrid,
This is my interpretation of your dream. Sitting in the bathtub
is siginificant. It signifies your need to cleanse yourself of a
situation. The spider web could signify a web of deception.
Several spiders could mean several problems or annoyances that
are going on with you right now. Both the red and black on the
spiders signifies fear and anger. I think the dream is a warning
that whatever is the problem is that is going on with you if you
don't fix the situation you'll end up getting bit, so to speak. I
would really look at what is going on right now. Is there a
situation that is annoying you or bothering you or a problem you
happen to be caught up in? I hope this helps.
Louella
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Message: 701-001
Subject: people
dream_title: people
dream_date: 26/11
dreamer_name: mystic
dream_text: sometimes i dream of in every house i have been in a
pearson comes walking into the room weird thing is i always wake
up(properley) then fall back to sleep and the dream continues
until that pearson is leaning over me and it is real like cause i
can feel the presence of it all
dream_comments: what does this mean also before something happens
like maybe a death or happiness i get a interition that something
is going to happen sometimes however iam wrong
COMMENTS: 705-004
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Message: 702-001
Subject: Death
dream_title: Death
dream_date: septemeber 2003
dreamer_name: Maddison
dream_text: First Part- I am driving home from school on the
highway, suddenely traffic stops, and I learn that a bomb has gone
off on the opposite highway, people are telling me I have to leave
my car and run because the bomb is going to get us next, but I do
not want to leave my car and go with them.
Second Part- I am in bedroom sleeping at school, and my sister
comes in, wakes me up and asks me if she can stay with my because
she is not going to make it through the night. I do not ask why,
I just go back to sleep and let her stay with me.
Third Part- I am at school, I get a call from someone, I do not
know who, and they tell me to come home right away. When I get
home I learn that my mother has died, and that we must arrange for
the funeral, they do not tell me how and they also did not tell me
when it happened because they did not want me to be upset. We
arrange everything, when i go to the funeral home, everything is
very familar, my mother is not the person in the casket, but I do
not know who it is. I leave and go home, my mom is home and she
tells me that everything is ok, she did not die. I wake up.
dream_comments: I am taking a dream symbolism class at Salve
Regina, we have to keep a dream journal, in this dream, I dreamt
that I was writing in the journal.
FOr this class, I have to present a dream and its meaning.
I was in Italy this summer, when I got back, my grandfather passed
away, about a month later I had to leave for school.
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Message: 703-001
Subject: Resisting Death
dream_title: Resisting Death
dream_date: November 25, 2003
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I am in a dark, greyish hole with webs. A skeleton
representing Death driving a cast iron carriage was also in the
hole with me. He pointed towards the carriage for me to get in.
I said, "No, I am not going with you." He then pointed to the
four walls that were surrounding me, showing me that there is no
other way out. I felt trapped. The only way out was getting into
the carriage. I felt scared, yet I wasn't because I was talking
to death and telling it that I was not going. I looked up and
saw a small,little hole. Through the hole a small light shined
through. As I looked through the hole, I saw an Angel. The Angel
reached through the hole and pulled me through the hole. As I
hugged the Angel, my arms would pass through the Angel. To me it
felt like air. Then I woke up.
COMMENTS: 703-002
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Message: 703-002 [703-001]
Subject: color your dream death
what if the black of your dream is an encroachment on your soul by
spirits traveling in the wrong direction like the tunnel walls of
neardeath experiencers and the white is your soul what if your
spirit moves your soul to the right of those souls whose spirits
are moving them in the wrong direction and what if you can see the
influence of your spirit on your soul by
observing that it has a left to right drift once i read that
mohammed was asked what a dream meant and he told the dreamer to
follow it and find out?i have not read all the so called
apocryphal gospes but do you know of any mention os dreams?
isn't it strange that jesus made no mention of dreams?
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Message: 703-003 [700-001]
Subject: Re: Spiders
wow this ingrid person is totally into the aura and chakra thing
the meaning of colors. and she's read her share of dream books
too. i don't know i'd say she did a pretty good job. but if u
want my input here it goes: red and black are usually associated
with sex magic, red is color of prosperity in orient, and black
could symbolize death. i'd say that if u didn't see the spider
web as u were getting in it could mean that u don't always think
be4 acting. and that the web represents the past. but ingrid is
right the bathroom means cleansing, the living room is the heart
of the home, the bedroom would signify rest. is there some
financial oppurtunity u missed out on in the past. and who do u
feel is biting or stabbing u in the back right now? the 8 legs of
the spider could represent many factors at the same time that
could be bugging u rather than any one thing. or the dream could
mean that there's something in the past that holds u back now
something u didn't think was important till recently. have to go
bye!
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Message: 704-001
Subject: The Lightning Man
dream_title: The Lightning Man
dream_date: 11/29/03
dreamer_name: Lightning Ball
dream_text: I got struck by lightning knocked my lights out for a
long day. At night I got up and opened my eyes and my eyes turned
blue and i opened my hands. " ball of Lightning" came out of my
hands
dream_comments: Why Lightning came out of my hands Why?
COMMENTS: 705-002
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Message: 704-002
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Message: 705-001 [700-002]
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE CRYING BABY ISSUE!
sounds to me like she blames u for more than she should and that's
not fair to u. u are not responsible for her life or the choices
in it. does this woman remind u of the way your own mother treats
u? u could feel devalued or underappreciated or even held back
and that this woman is treating u like a child. get a job where u
know your self worth and don't have to be treated in such a
disrespectful and ungrateful manner.
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Message: 705-002 [704-001]
Subject: Re: I KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTENING BALL IS!
do u know or care that u have very strong powerful psychic
abilities and your dream is telling u to stop ignoring them and
have some faith in yourself. the dream seems 2b saying that u
needed a great declaration or sign to tell u this. if it wasn't a
brick hitting u over the head it's getting struck by lightening to
get your attention. did u ever hear of energy balls or
ectoplasm?? i was in a coven where the group broke up be4 she
taught us how to do that. but u seriously need to stop denying
your abilities and realize that there's nothing wrong with being a
witch. it seems to me like your a hereditary one. and u don't
even know it! it's a shame u can be very good and very powerful.
i don't think god cares if your a witch just as long as your a
good one.
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Message: 705-003
Subject: The Flying Lion
dream_title: The Flying Lion
dream_date: 11-29-2003
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I WAS IN A FIELD, LOOKING AT THE STARS THREW A
TELESCOPE, AS I WATCHED SATURN, SOMETHING GOT IN THE WAY OF MY
VISION, I TOOK MY HEAD AWAY FROM THE SCOPE, TO CLEAR MY EYES AND
LOOKED AGAIN, THEN AS I WATCH SATURN AGAIN, THE OBJECT THAT
ENTERED MY VISION WAS A FLYING LION, IT HAD WINGS LIKE AN EAGLE, I
CALLED FOR MY BROTHER, HE THEN APPEARED OUT OF NO WAY, I ASKED HIM
TO LOOK AT THE FLYING LION, BUT IT WAS GONE BY THEN, ALL THE WHILE
THERE WAS MUSIC IN THE BACK GROUND, SMOOTH AND SOFT, GUITAR? WHAT
DOES IT MEAN.?
dream_comments: I HAVE DREAMS EVERY NIGHT,
COMMENTS:
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Message: 705-004 [701-001]
Subject: Re:IF THE DEAD SEEM REAL TO U THAT'S CUZ THEY ARE!
at least u can see them i can only feel them and sometimes hear.
but even then there has to b high levels of concentrated energy.
anyway the dead r trying to get your attention. they know u know
about them and r therefore drawn to u. but as with the living u
wanna b careful as to who u hang out with and who u help and y.
they don't stop being human just cuz they passed on. u were
asking me y u get an intuitive feeling be4 something good or bad
happens that's normal. u have a very strong hold on the spirit
world. most people would freak out b overwhelmed or wrongly
assume their losing their mind. u just have more talents and
abilities than most that's all nothing wrong with that at all.
but u do wanna b careful as to who u share that information with i
don't wanna see u get locked up in a mental institution or
anything like that.
but
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Message: 705-005
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Message: 706-001
Subject: My Wierd Ass Day
dream_title: My Wierd Ass Day
dream_date:
dreamer_name: Selene
dream_text: Ok so im in The supermarkent where my mom works (i
spend a lot of time there when im bored) and im looking for a
muffin before i go to school. just one individually rapped
muffin. but no, there are only 6 packs and 12 packs so im walkina
around the store muttering about my muffin when all of a sudden my
History teacher pops up out of nowhere and is like "how can i help
you?" i tell him im looking for a muffin and he says he knows
where i can find them. so he take s me down an isel and hes like
here you go. but again they are all 6 packs and 12 packs. "NO. i
only want 1 muffin" "oh" he says and then rips open a 12pack of
muffins and hands me one of them "go on take it" he says "no i
have to pay for it first" i say but he keeps insisting that i
dont need to pay for it that i should just take it and leave. so
i stat to leave feeling uneasy then realize i cant do it and run
back to the deli where i slap 12 cents in change on the counter
and say "im sorry i tried to steal the muffin here ill pay for it"
then i run away leaving the change and the muffin on the counter.
my history techer is in the back going"nooooo" so then i go to
school and my class is in the library working on the computers.
the library is this room surrounded by glass walls kida linke a
fish tank. wel me and my friends are talking and typing, my
friend taps me on my shioulder and points across the room i look
over and Kevin Soebo Dressed as Hurcules is there waving at me
like a luvstruck girl. i turn away thinking hes and idiot. so im
typing on my computer and all of a sudden and instant message pops
up. i cant read it but i know its from him. again i ignore it.
so then he gets up and cums over to talkto me. by this time im
fed up with him so i say i have to go to my locker and get a book
so i go out to my locker, its all darkand there is one streetlight
on. After i get my book i start to walk back but then i am
surrounded by a circle of black clad ninjas. oh crap i think.
then i procede to kick all of their butts. then i woke up
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Message: 707-001
Subject: murder
12/06/03 : A man (black) is taunting me (at this point I am black
too) and later, when he is walking down some cement stairs
(vaguely similar to stairs at my old middle school) I sneak out
from behind the railing, and come up behind him, and slice the
back of his neck with a blade. This scene repeats at least two
more times, seen from different angles. Other then the sense of
confusion and dread I feel from killing him, I am rather
judgemental as to how it "looked" when I killed him. It looked
good for the most part. But it was amature looking. Not as
"stylish" as I would have liked. The way I
moved the blade across his neck was kind of shaky, and amature
looking (these were my primary concerns when reviewing the
murder). A friend asks me how did it feel, my first time killing
a man. I said, ok (i meant, it didnt feel good at all). He said,
but wasnt it a rush, wasnt it thrilling (something to that effect,
i forgot the exact words). I recall thinking to myself, no, it
really wasnt. I didnt feel anything when I did it. Now I was
questioning why I ever did it at all. Now I was a fugitive of the
law, and the police were homing in on our position. This part is
hard for me to remember, but I run out of the building with my
friends, and try to divert the polices attention. > I am myself
(white) and I am running through some suburbs, into ppls houses,
all the while i am running from a person (a person from my past
from school who picked on me a lot). He is very much the same
person he was in the past. He knows I committed the murder but I
think he commited the murder (this part is hard to recall, but it
was very uncomfortable). > I am driving my car and a good friend
of mine is sitting in the passenger seat next to me. I tell him
we can move to Hawaii, and they won't find us there for a long
time at least. We can get jobs there and live peacefully. But we
have to get out of here or I'm going to jail for "life without
parole". Then I ask him, how long do you think we really have
before we're caught? He says, three days max.
I consider using my debit card somewhere and getting out of there
fast before they realize I was there. Then I can use cash at the
airport and make up a name for myself, so they won't know I am on
the flight. This is about the time I wake up. When I awaken, I
am in disbelief of reality. I think to myself, this can't be
real. I really did kill someone, and there is nothing I can do
about it now. It takes a few minutes before I realize that it was
only a dream, and thats the most relieved I've felt in a very,
very long time.
comment: even hours later i felt a little like it really happened
at some moments, and had to snap myself back into reality. for
those of you who are planning on interpreting my dream, i can tell
you i cant think of anything i heavily regret doing or feel guilty
about lately that would offset this dream, though there were past
demons that made an appearnce (bully from school) which would
imply something. there could be some fear of commitment here,
because i've made some bad mistakes in the past, i.e. joining the
military and hating every minute of it. same with school. didnt
like it either. but this didnt feel like one of 'those' dreams
either, since i frequently have those dreams. so i'm not sure
what to make of it. - A
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Message: 708-001
Subject: Re: HUGGED BY AN ANGEL RESPONSE TO RESISTING DEATH!
at first u resisted death but when u accepted that death is apart
of life and that u have nothing to lose cuz u still maintain your
sense of self u were then rewarded by a hug from an angel cuz u
finally learned your lesson. there is no life without death.
death is a part of life and u can always come back if u want but i
believe some souls r forced to come back here whether they like it
or not cuz there was something they needed to learn or experience
and it wasn't right for them to try to avoid it.
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Message: 708-002
Subject: Re: NOTHING WEIRD ABOUT A CRUSH RESPONSE 2WEIRD ASS DAY
well u either have a crush on a girl or some girl has a crush on u
(or it could be a guy with very strong female traits that remind u
of someone) but the character of hercules would suggest that this
secret admirer of yours is strong and persistant. the fact that
this person is the store where your mom works would suggest to me
that u know this person and got to know them in a comfortable
environment such as school or work. at 1st u wanted to confront
this person and tell them u were not interested but instead u
thought u were sparing the persons feelings by avoiding them all
together. which is y u left the muffin (sexual term referring to
womans private area) and the change on the counter. u wanted to
give this person your own 2 cents on the matter but thought better
of it. u do however feel tremendously guilty for avoiding this
person and not wanting to talk to them about this. all u have to
say is: i like u and i think your a good person and i'm sorry i
don't swing that way if and when i do you'll be the 1st person i
contact. till then can we just please b friends!? your history
teacher showed up cuz apparently u had a similar problem in the
past from someone else who may have been the opposite gender than
the person who's after u now. your history teacher represents the
past and he's screaming no, no, noooo! cuz he doesn't want to see
u continually running away from the same kind of situation over
and over and over it's just easier to deal with the person and
give that person some closure. u were beating up the ninja's
later cuz u were working out your frustrations regarding this
situation. your mad at this person for having more feelings for u
than they should or mad at yourself for having more feelings for
them than u think u should. and u feel like u can take on more
than what u would otherwise could handle cuz your that angry and
frustrated. u do however seem like u wanted to give this person a
shot and see how it goes but r very much afraid of the results.
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Message: 708-003
Subject: Re: MY INTERPRETATION OF CAR BOMB & GRANDPA'S FUNERAL
did all of these dreams take place be4 your grandfather died? cuz
if so then all of them tie in together. in the 1st part your
being warned about some impending danger but your not afraid cuz u
know somehow u will be ok. in the 2nd part your sister is feeling
unnerved by something but u don't know what that is. what if she
has intuitive feelings about impending doom and death in the
family too??? either way she seems to know somethings wrong and
seeks comfort from u. in the 3rd part of the dream u say that u r
being told your mother is dead and yet when u see the casket she
is not in it she's alive. if your grandfather is your mother's
dad that would mean to me that when he passed away a part of her
died as well. people very often grieve for the dead as if they
themselves had died. they must've been very close. but it seems
like your surrounded by well meaning people who take care of
things quickly even if they r a bit misinformed sometimes. and
maybe u weren't afraid of dieing when told about the car bomb cuz
u were kind of curious to see 4 yourself what the other side is
like in person. but let's not go there. u have very strong
talents and abilities for a reason and even though u feel a bit
overwhelmed sometimes u probably wouldn't have these gifts if u
weren't strong enough to handle them.
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Message: 708-004
Subject: Re: COULD BE ANIMAL TOTEM SPIRIT OR ABOUT ASTROLOGY
your dream could be telling u to get some medicine cards and get
into the animal totem spirit thing. but i think it's mainly about
astrology i don't know if u believe in it or ever had your chart
done. as for your brother the dream implies he doesn't see the
same things as u or doesn't believe in the same things which is
ok. he's a separate entity and shouldn't have to believe in the
same things. i very often have more in common with my friends than
i do my immediate family. did u see the nostradamus movie very
good. he had his chart done and he was exactly the person the
stars made him out to b psychically inclined with powerful
visions. u can pick it up free at a library. if it's not lumped
in with everything else it could be in documentary or biography
section. this movie was not like a boring PBS documentary movie
it was a real movie and a good one at that. as for the music they
say that the universe and the heavens create music all the time
that the world runs on it. anyone who writes songs or music is
tapping into that creative force and that's y music affects our
emotions, thoughts and dreams. and that's y we can sometimes get
more energy from listening to music than we can from eating.
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Message: 708-005
Subject: Re: THE MORE LUCID THE DREAM THE BETTER!
i've had numerous and strange dealings with the spirit world but
not as strong and powerful as your dealings with them. the most i
can say is trust your intuition and let your conscience be your
guide. whatever works for u to protect yourself keep at it. if u
want more guidance than get some books on astral projection so u
can guide the experience rather than letting things happen. u can
also get a book on creative visualization and do the grounding
mediation there's a book called: "creative visualization" by
shakti guwain. these books r in the occult, new age, sometimes
even self-help section. other than that get sage or sweet grass or
do some sort of cleansing ritual. mohammed was into lucid dreaming
and there r some people who can seed their dreams and choose to
dream about whatever they want and there's books on that to. so u
can follow your dream and learn to follow it or guide it. as for
jesus didn't he have visions? i don't know maybe some of them
were waking dreams.
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Message: 708-006
Subject: Black Hair
dream_title: Black Hair
dream_date: 12/7/03
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I saw a black bird fly right pass me and I see black
hair when I scoop the popcorn. (I work in a theater)
dream_comments: none
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Message: 709-001
Subject: Flying
dream_title: Flying
dream_date: 2/3 days a week
dreamer_name: noname
dream_text: Every time i remember my dream it starts at night when
the witches come out and they pratice their seyonces. When
something bad happens to a friend in any of my dreams, the
seyonces become soft almost wispering and in my dream it dosn't
matter where i am i just run around in circles until my body is
lifted off the gound and then i can fly around town until bad
turns into good.
dream_comments: Every time I fly in my dreams i can control it
extemely well, such as taking off and landing. When I do fly I
don't need anything to supposrt myself and the wind feels so
realistic
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Message: 709-002
Subject: Wedding
dream_title: WEDDING
dream_date: 12-7-03
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I DREAMED THAT I HAD MARRIED MY EX BUT THAT I WAS
STILL MARRIED WITH MY PRESENT HUSBAND.
dream_comments:
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Message: 710-001
Subject: tidal wave
dream_title: tidal wave
dream_date: November 2004
dreamer_name: Kerriemc
dream_text: Its full colour and very busy very exhausting. I am in
a coastal area. I can see the ocean. There are people all around
me. My daughter is with me. I feel my inner voice tell me that
there is imminent danger and that I need to save myself and my
daughter. I hear people shouting 'tidal wave is coming. People
begin to panic. I see the wave it is almost upon us and there is
nothing I can do. I feel great fear and a survival within, the
need to save my daughter. I hold my daughter tight. The wave hits
we are swept up I breath for my daughter giving her air as she
needs it. We are surrounded by water and strive to find the top of
the water.There are bodies all around us. The water subsides and
the town is filled with mud and I am walking on the ground and
feel bodies in the soil beneath my feet. I can't see my daughter.
I find a table and a little girl and tell the girl to get onto the
table as there is another wave coming. the wave hits followed by
another one. I survive the water subsides and the town is
destroyed. There are other survivors I am very sad and very very
afraid.
dream_comments: I feel dread and a great deal of fear throughout
this dream. I feel lonliness. This is a recurring dream in subject
matter only. The scheme of the dream changes each time.
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Message: 710-002
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE WEDDING DREAM!
did u feel like u made a mistake marrying your husband instead of
your x. or do u like them both and want the best of both worlds
in your life? or do u feel like u shouldn't have gotten involved
with either. what do they mean and represent to u?
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Message:
710-003
Subject: Waiting for you
dream_title: WAITING FOR YOU
dream_date:
dreamer_name: FOR MY HUSBAND
dream_text: MY HUSBAND HAD A DREAM THAT HE WAS HAVING LUNCH IN A
DINNER WITH HIS AUNT,HIS COUSIN,UNCLE,AND AUNT (WHO HAVE ALL
PASTED ON) WALK INTO THE DINNER. HE LOOKS AT ALL OF THEM AND SAID
TO THEM WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE YOU GUYS ARE DEAD?!ONE OF THEM
SAID TO HIM WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU.
dream_comments: WHAT COULD THIS MEAN?
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Message: 710-004
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO FLYING DREAM
i don't know what books u been reading but not all witches hold
seances at nite can be anytime of the day. i have dreams where
i'm levitating and i can control that 2 it's fun i always get mad
when i wake up and can't reproduce the same kind of energy. it's
takes so little. i think the witches r murmuring cuz no one likes
to say bad things out loud might scare people. what do u mean bad
turns into good how does your flying cause that to happen u didn't
say. they say that flying dreams is really astral travel. so i
don't know where u go or what u do but i'm glad your intent on
turning bad into good. i read in a dream book that levitating
dreams means that i'm stressed and that i just wish to get away
from things. sometimes i don't know i'm stressed till after i
have one of those dreams but haven't had one in a long time now.
did u get my response to your other dreams the funeral and muffin
shop. they seem to have been mailed back 2 me without a response
couldn't figure out y. though the 1st time i responded to someone
same thing happened but apparently he did get my response.
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Message: 710-005
Subject: Re: response to black hair
well what kind of black bird was it a crow? they say crows
signify death. or lead the souls where they need to go. there's
a native american tribe called "crow nation". where were u when
the black bird flew past u? if someone left behind black hair
when u were scooping up the popcorn someone from the spirit world
could b trying to get your attention. ask your spirit guide to
send u a dream!
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Message: 711-001
Subject: desert
i'm in a desert with some people. we come to a wall and at the top
is a place no one can make it. so we climb up and everyone falls
but me. i'm nearing the top, and have to move to the right to
make it up. before i make it i see someone below me, he is way
high up, and he jumps off the wall and lands in the sand below.
the sand is so deep and flowing it doesnt hurt him at all. i make
it up and the sand is warm to the touch and feels good to lie in.
i look beyond and there is a a hill of sand. at the top there is a
sort of fence and it is guarded heavily by these arabs. one of
them points a gun at me and i make hand gestures suggesting i will
not try to apporach any higher. the only way is down so i jump
back down. i land in water, and everything is now blue. i fear to
let my breath out so they dont see the bubbles on the surface and
shoot me. so i cant breathe at all and force myself awake.
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Message: 711-002
Subject: Re: I HAVE AN ANSWER (WAITING FOR YOU)!!!!
your husband could be sick and doesn't know it. the dream could
be a warning he seriously needs to see a dr. as soon as possible.
or if this is not the case but should be looked in to. the dream
could be telling him he doesn't pay enough attention to his own
family dead or not and they just want to be acknowledged. no
reason to ignore the dead. there just gonna keep at it till they
get your attention. is he in danger from some acquaintance or is
there physical dangers on the job chemicals, no safety button on a
machine, faulty equipment? could be a warning about almost
anything. tell your husband to pray to these spirits and ask them
to send more info in his dreams. the majority of dreams i have
are filled with people i don't know and never met trying to tell
me something. they say that when u dream u leave your body and
very often go back and forth between the world of spirits and this
one. set up an ancestor altar in your home. pictures, candles,
incense, family memorobilia, etc. jewelry that belonged to his
aunt. is there a family medical history he is not aware of???
could be neurological too. parkinsons or such??!
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