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++ Editor's Notes
++ News: ASD Online PsiberDreaming Conference
September 21 through October 5, 2003
ASD Online Auction: September 1, 2003
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
20 Questions About Lucid Dreams
Lucy Gillis
++ Article: Falling Dreams
Linda Lane Magallón
++ Column: A View from the Bridge
Hands Around the World
By Jean Campbell
++ Dream: "Wonder Dog"
By Stan Kulikowski II
++ Newsletter: The Waves: 05. Children's Dreams
By Nick Cumbo
++ Article: Dangerous Representations: Abstraction in Dreamwork.
By Richard Wilkerson
++ Research Data: Computer Dreams
January 2002 December 2002
By Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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Welcome to the September 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your
portal to dreams and dreaming online.
If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the
resources you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
or if you are interested in sharing dreams for world peace, please
join the World Dreams Peace Bridge
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
The first thing I want to mention is the online ASD PsiberDreaming
Conference September 21 October 5, 2003. For a minimal charge
you can join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject
of Psi dreaming for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions,
workshops, and chats. If you've ever had a precognitive dream, a
lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual dream' that never quite made
sense, this is the place for you.
If you were at last year's conference, I needn't tell you this is
a not-to-be missed set of events. Once you have registered, you
can enter the bulletin board area and participate in the many
activities. Each day new papers and presentations are added, and
afterwards there is discussion with the authors and researchers.
Other discussions spontaneously occur as well. There are chat
times and a special dream-inspired art gallery selections. The
event occurs over a two week period and last year brought in
fabulous reviews. http://www.asdreams.org/psi2003
More below.
Speaking of the Association for the Study of Dreams, the September
Auction is about to start! The proceeds from this auction go to
ASD. You can donate or bid on items such as dream art, signed
books by famous dream authors and much, much more.
http://www.asdreams.org/auction
Lucy Gillis offers Electric Dreams a selection each month from her
_Lucid Dream Exchange_. This month you will be able to read
answers about lucid dreaming from members of the dream community,
including Linda Lane Magallón (Editor), Lucy Gillis, Jill Gregory,
Teresa Magallón, Ruth Sacksteder and Robert Trowbridge.
Thanks to Lucy for this sneak preview of the articles in the
Lucid Dream Exchange #28!
Ever have a falling dream? If you would like to know more about
these dreams and learn to do something creative with them as well,
be sure to read "Falling Dreams." Linda Lane Magallón leads us
through the maze of slips and falls, shows us how to investigate
what induces our falling dreams, and then teachs us what we can do
to change the situation. What we do depends on what is stimulating
the sensation.
Jean Campbell brings you up to date on how the projects for using
dreams for peace are coming along. Dreams for Peace? Jean and her
friends around the world believe that together we are creating the
world from our dreams, that we are present in one another's dreams
not just as symbols of ourselves, but as ourselves. And that, if
this is true, then we can indeed dream the world into peace,
assuming that is our desire.
Be sure to see how these world wide dream projects are unfolding
and how you can participate by reading The View from the Bridge.
(The World Dreams Peace Bridge)
Stan Kulikowski returns with his unique way of recording his
dreams. This month the journal selection is called "Wonder Dog"
Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of
the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at
Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from
around the globe, collaborating in dreaming adventures, and
'dreaming with and for the earth itself.'
This month, Nick looks a dreams and their significance to
children. He takes a sweeping approach that includes drawing on
the wisdom of dreams in general, as a model for teaching, for
peace training, and for the development of youth culture.
Be sure to read Waves 05: Children's Dreams.
Recently on the ASD Bulletin Board we were discussing how to use
dreams in a novel with an author interested in such things. I made
the comment that using dreams as representations is dangerous, and
the author read this and wanted to know more, which lead to a
fairly long post on the topic that I revised and am including
below. The issue here is not so much about how to use dreams in a
novel, but the depth to which we are all steeped in abstractions
and representations of life rather than being involved with the
thing itself. Dreamwork is a key, I think, to understanding both
how abstract we get and how to play with these abstractions in a
way that can bring us back around to a more vital dreamwork. For
more, read my article on "Dangerous Representations: Abstraction
in Dreamwork."
I am including a section called "Computer Dreams" where I am
putting out some of the data from the DreamGate Computer Dreams
Survey, which has been running for about three years. This
selection will cover the dreams about computers sent in for all of
the year 2002. I haven't included all the data on each dreamer,
but have given some basics about them and comments when needed.
Our Global Dreaming News director is on vacation this month and so
if you expected to have something run this month and its missing,
you can get that in next month's news by sending your request to
Peggy Coats at web@dreamtree.com
The dream section returns next month. If you have dreams you want
published, don't send them to Elizabeth directly, but rather enter
them in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to:
dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to
stop by one of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
NEW from Nick Cumbo, Electric Dreams in PDF:
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/
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ASD's 2003
PsiberDreaming Conference
September 21, 2003 - October 5, 2003
http://www.asdreams.org/psi2003
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Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of Psi-
dreaming for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions,
workshops, and chats. If you've ever had a precognitive dream, a
lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual dream' that never quite made
sense, this seems the place for you.
Announcing ASD's Second Online PsiberDreaming Conference,
September 21, 2003 - October 5, 2003.
For two weeks participants worldwide will enjoy online
experiments, psiber games with prizes, chats, and discussions on
paranormal dreaming in the shared meeting space of virtual
reality. Last years conference ended with rave reviews:
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"Bravo!", "Incredible!", "a wonderful experience," "amazing!",
"topnotch", "I am really thrilled," "great conference," "please,
please do this frequently," "I don't know how many accolades I can
give you, too many to count, I believe. The conference was simply
great!! Good presenters, topics, participants, and great energy."
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If you missed the first, make sure you attend the second!
ASD's 2003
PsiberDreaming Conference
September 21, 2003 - October 5, 2003
Features:
1. Online Presentations, including provocative papers and
workshops on popular and cutting edge topics, such as: remote
viewing, precognition, dream telepathy, mutual dreaming,
psychopompic dreams, lucid dreaming, visionary dreaming, prodromal
dreams, dream healing, the nature of dream reality, and dreaming
as a spiritual practice. Workshops will provide resource lists for
those who wish to explore topics in greater depth, and practical
instructions for techniques or experiments detailed enough so that
conference participants can try them out at home.
Confirmed Presenters:
Jeffrey Mishlove, Ph.D., author of The Roots of Consciousness, and
host of Thinking Allowed: Conversations on the Leading Edge of
Knowledge; Edward Bruce Bynum, Ph.D., ABPP , author of The African
Unconscious: Roots of Ancient Mysticism and Modern Psychology; Bob
Hoss, MS, author of The Language of Dreams and current President
of the Association for the Study of Dreams; Robert L. Van de
Castle, Ph.D., author of Our Dreaming Mind; Ed Kellogg, Ph.D.,
host of ASD's 'Paranormal Phenomena' forum, and the 2002 and 2003
PsiberDreaming Conferences; Robert Moss, author of Conscious
Dreaming, Dreamgates, and The Way of the Dreamer video series;
Jean Campbell, author of Dreams Beyond Dreaming; Dale Graff,
author of River Dreams: The Case of the Missing General and Other
Adventures in Psychic Research; Mena Potts, Ph.D., dream
psychologist and psi researcher; Curtiss Hoffman, Ph.D.,
archeologist and author of author of The Seven Story Tower: A
Mythic Journey through Space and Time; Linda Lane Magallón, author
of Mutual Dreaming: When Two or More People Share the Same Dream;
Marcia Emery, Ph.D. author of PowerHunch! , The Intuitive Healer,
and Dr. Marcia Emery's Intuition Workbook; Carol D. Warner, M.A.,
M.S.W., author of At the Feet of the Master; Rosemary Ellen
Guiley, Ph.D. - author of Dreamwork for the Soul: A Spiritual
Guide to Dream Interpretation, and Dreamspeak: How to Understand
the Messages in Your Dreams; Robert Waggoner, co-editor of The
Lucid Dream Exchange; Beverly (Kedzierski Heart) D'Urso, Ph.D., an
internationally known lucid dreamer, known for her role in Stephen
LaBerge's groundbreaking studies at Stanford; Gloria
Sturzenacker, developer of the Inner Guide Mapping symbol system;
Rita Dwyer, former ASD President and PsiDreams E-group Host.
David Pleasants, M.A., dream researcher and global justice
advocate; Alan Siegel, Ph.D., author of Dream Wisdom: Uncovering
Life's Answers in Your Dreams.
2. Dedicated PsiberDreaming Discussion Boards where participants
can discuss each paper and workshop in depth with authors and
other participants, and can post specific questions, etc. Links to
relevant threads would appear conveniently at the end of each
posted presentation, updated daily to show new threads of
interest.
3. Scheduled Chats each week of the conference with presenters
and/or other experts on cutting edge topics.
4. Numerous PsiberDreaming Events and Contests where participants
can test their skills and explore different facets of paranormal
dreaming, including dream telepathy and remote viewing,
precognition, and mutual dreaming. Judges will evaluate how well
dreamers tune into the designated targets, or how well dreamers
perform a specific dream task. And ASD will provide prizes to the
winners!
5. A PsiberDreaming Gallery of Dreams and Art. One section of this
gallery will feature the "best of the best", graphic images of
dream art selected from the submissions to past ASD conferences,
formatted into a sequential point and click cyber tour. A second
section of the gallery will provide a place where participants can
display their own dream art (with accompanying dream text or dream
poetry), sharing them with other participants.
Event Dates and Costs:
The PsiberDreaming Conference opens Sunday, September 21, 2003
through Sunday, October 5, 2003. The conference will then become a
read only archive for an additional two weeks for participants
(through October 19th, 2003.
Online Participation Costs for both weeks (no one week rate):
General Public $35! (US Dollars)
ASD Members $30!
Students with valid ID $20! (no additional ASD discount)
Participants who register and pay by September 7th will get an
additional $5 off their registration fees!
Note: we've deliberately set the price of attending this
conference low to open this conference to interested participants
worldwide. Please take advantage!
Considering joining ASD? Join ASD as a new member anytime from
August 10th through October 5th and as a bonus we'll give you free
admission to ASD's second PsiberDreaming Conference!
Starting August 10, 2003 to Register Go To:
http://www.asdreams.org/psi2003
ASD 2003 PsiberDreaming Conference
From: Sunday, September 21 - Sunday October 5. 2003
Confirmed Presentations
"Manifesto for Psychic Liberation" (keynote) by Jeffrey Mishlove,
Ph.D., author of The Roots of Consciousness, and host of Thinking
Allowed: Conversations on the Leading Edge of Knowledge.
"Psi, Dreams and the Family Unconscious: Our Shared Intimate
Innerlandscape", by Edward Bruce Bynum, Ph.D., ABPP , author of
The African Unconscious: Roots of Ancient Mysticism and Modern
Psychology.
"Understanding Color in Dreams" , by Bob Hoss, MS, author of The
Language of Dreams and current President of the Association for
the Study of Dreams.
"Dreaming of Angels" , by Robert L. Van de Castle, Ph.D., author
of Our Dreaming Mind
"Psi-Perception in Dreams: Next Stop - the Twilight Zone", by Ed
Kellogg, Ph.D., host of ASD's 'Paranormal Phenomena' forum, and
the 2002 and 2003 PsiberDreaming Conferences.
"Dreaming with the Departed", a workshop with Robert Moss, author
of Conscious Dreaming, Dreamgates, and The Way of the Dreamer
video series.
"The World Dreams Peace Bridge: An Exercise in Psi Dreaming", with
Jean Campbell, author of Dreams Beyond Dreaming.
"Enhancing Artistic Talent through Psi Dreaming", by Dale Graff,
author of River Dreams: The Case of the Missing General and Other
Adventures in Psychic Research.
"Applying the Rules of Evidence to Psi Dream Research", a workshop
with Mena Potts, Ph.D., dream psychologist and psi researcher.
"Lucid Dreams, Nested Dreams", by Curtiss Hoffman, Ph.D.,
archeologist and author of author of The Seven Story Tower: A
Mythic Journey through Space and Time.
"The Magical Secret to Flying in Your Dreams", by Linda Lane
Magallón, author of Mutual Dreaming: When Two or More People Share
the Same Dream.
"Intuitive Dreamwork for Healing", by Marcia Emery, Ph.D. author
of PowerHunch! , The Intuitive Healer, and Dr. Marcia Emery's
Intuition Workbook.
Galaxy Quest: Dreaming of Aliens and UFOs, Part 1", by Carol D.
Warner, M.A., M.S.W., author of At the Feet of the Master.
"Galaxy Quest: Dreaming of Aliens and UFOs, Part 2", by Rosemary
Ellen Guiley, Ph.D. - author of Dreamwork for the Soul: A
Spiritual Guide to Dream Interpretation, and Dreamspeak: How to
Understand the Messages in Your Dreams.
"The Dream Universe: Fascinating Concepts from the Seth Material
(The Early Sessions)", by Robert Waggoner, co-editor of The Lucid
Dream Exchange.
"Living Life as a Lucid Dream", by Beverly (Kedzierski Heart)
D'Urso, Ph.D., an internationally recognized lucid dreamer, known
for her role in Stephen LaBerge's groundbreaking studies at
Stanford.
"Psi Dreams That Point the Way Inward", by Gloria Sturzenacker,
developer of the Inner Guide Mapping symbol system.
"Tuning into Your Dreams for Spiritual Guidance", by Rita Dwyer,
former ASD President and PsiDreams E-group Host.
"Anniversary Dreams: Coping with September 11th and other
Traumatic Events", by Alan Siegel, Ph.D., author of Dream Wisdom:
Uncovering Life's Answers in Your Dreams.
"Precognitive Dreaming and the Physics of Time by David Pleasants,
M.A., dream researcher and global justice advocate.
Confirmed Events:
1. The PsiberDreaming Art Gallery, hosted by Sao, including a
special selection of Dream Art from past ASD shows, as well as new
art submitted by conference participants.
2. "A Mutual Dreaming Contest", hosted by Ed Kellogg, Ph.D., host
of ASD's 'Paranormal Phenomena' forum.
3. Mutual Dreams Chat
4. "The Precognitive Dream Contest", hosted by Cynthia Pearson,
author of The Practical Psychic, and by Robert Waggoner, co-editor
of The Lucid Dream Exchange.
5. Precognitive Dreams Chat
6. "A Remote Viewing Contest", hosted by Dale Graff, author of
River Dreams: The Case of the Missing General and Other Adventures
in Psychic Research.
7. Remote Viewing Chat.
Register :
http://www.asdreams.org/psi2003
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis
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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
Here is a sneak preview of one of the articles in LDE 28!
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20 Questions About Lucid Dreams
Answered By Members of the Dream Community
(c) 2003 Linda Lane Magallón (Editor), Lucy Gillis, Jill Gregory,
Teresa Magallón, Ruth Sacksteder and Robert Trowbridge
Note: BT=Bob Trowbridge, JG=Jill Gregory, LG=Lucy Gillis, LM=Linda
Magallón, RS=Ruth Sacksteder, TM=Teresa Magallón.
1. What is a lucid dream?
RS: A dream in which the dreamer knows she is dreaming while she
is dreaming.
LM: A dream in which you are aware that you're dreaming. Or: Lucid
dreaming is being aware that we are dreaming while the dream is
happening.
2. How common are lucid dreams?
RS: There are no good statistics amongst a cross-section of the
American population. The statistics we have are usually from
select college students taking a particular class (like
psychology). And certain select people from the dreaming community
have been polled.
LG: I could only guess at the answer, and it wouldn't even be an
educated guess. In my personal experience, it seems that most
people don't have them, however most of those same people claim
not to remember dreams in the first place. Among those who do
recall dreams, it seems that very few experience lucid dreams,
however, I wonder if it is simply because they don't know what a
lucid dream is?
3. Is lucid dreaming the same as dream control?
LM: Lucidity is awareness that you dream; dream control is being
proactive with your dreams. And the two don't necessarily go
together.
RS: In a fully lucid dream, the dreamer has a conscious choice
either to alter the scenario or go along with it. Being lucid does
not equate with success in controlling dreams. Control and
lucidity are two different ranges, or axes (on a graph).
LG: I interpret dream control to be the ability to control or
direct your dream environment, characters, events, etc. But you
can also be lucid and just watch the dream unfold without
participating in it or directing it.
4. Is controlling a lucid dream dangerous? Does it interfere with
"normal" sleep?
RS: No. Lucid dreams are a natural phenomena-they can happen
spontaneously. The number of times you get lucid is far less
frequent than the total number of dreams you have.
BT: No. I know a dreamer who was once conscious all night long.
Lucid dreaming shows us that we are a multiplicity, so it's not a
case of either lucid dreaming or nonlucid dreaming.
JG: It is not possible in either the waking state or the dreaming
state to step outside of the spectrum of both influencing and
being influenced simultaneously. Trying not to influence your
dreams while dreaming is itself a powerful influence upon both
states.
TM: I had a dream of a dragon chasing me in which I was lucid and
unable to intentionally wake myself. Eventually I awoke as the
dragon was coming towards me. I was scared in the dream and a
little frightened upon waking. Although this might be considered
to be a "bad" lucid dreaming experience, it never even occurred to
me to be afraid of lucid dreaming as a whole. Subsequently, I've
had many lucid dreams, both pleasant and unpleasant. The enjoyable
lucid dream experiences have more than outweighed the few dreams
that were not.
LG: In my personal experience lucid dreaming has never interfered
with my sleep. Quite the contrary, I usually wake refreshed and
energized after a having a lucid dream. I don't think that lucid
dreaming is dangerous for stable, mentally healthy individuals. I
would assume that if you have mental problems, like severe
depression, emotional turmoil, etc., that it may not be productive
to attempt to control your dreams. But on the other side of the
coin, it may help you get over some difficulties, like a form of
dream therapy. I believe it depends on the individual, but for the
average person, no, it isn't dangerous.
LM: I've been clinically diagnosed with depression, and being
proactive has been a god-send. For the first 38 years of my life,
my "normal" sleep was nightmares of the titanic variety. But even
if they had been just anxiety or angst dreams, I'd still want to
change to a healthier regime. No, not to repress my problems (like
I could), but to attain better balance. So, yes, lucid dreaming
*did* interfere with my "normal" sleep. Thank goodness. It was one
of the factors in changing my dream content from 100% nightmares
to less than 2%.
5. In what stages of sleep do lucid dreams occur? Are they the
same as "normal" dreams?
RS: They usually, but not invariably, occur in REM sleep.
LM: "Normal" dreams have been reported in all stages of sleep. You
can also be lucid in every stage.
6. If your brain waves are moving at an alpha rate, and you are
snoring, is that considered sleeping?
RS: ???
BT: ZZZ.
LG: I'm with R and L on this: ???ZZZ I simply don't know!
LM: My understanding of the snoring mechanism is that it is
engaged as a result of being very relaxed, but not necessarily
asleep.
7. Why would I want to have lucid dreams?
BT: They're trippy. They're fun, especially the short sequences.
RS: To overcome nightmares, rehearse for waking life, enhance
creativity, have fun, interesting adventures, self and spiritual
discovery, to experiment with the dreamscape, to explore, to do
dream healings on yourself, to attempt psi, to dream with other
people.
JG: It's an excellent way to learn about yourself and the
dreamworld. A lucid dream manifests things quicker; it's a safe
place to practice.
8. Is lucid dreaming a spiritual state?
LG: No. In it's simplest definition, lucid dreaming is being aware
of the dream state while *in* the dreamstate. It is awareness, not
spirituality.
RS: Not any more or any less than any other state. The dream state
isn't any more spiritual than the waking. People can have
spiritual experiences in dreams or while awake.
BT: Not always. It can be used for anything. I've done activities
far from spiritual, like eating almonds and hoping that there
would be pieces in my teeth when I woke up. An idiot who has a
lucid dream is just an idiot who knows he's dreaming.
JG: It can be for you, depending on how you like to be with your
dreams or sources of wisdom.
9. What's the difference between lucid dreaming and shamanic
dreaming?
RS: Shamanic dreaming is defined so many ways, I'm not sure what
state of consciousness the "dreamer" is in.
LM: Lucid dreaming occurs while you are asleep. With very few
exceptions, shamanic "dreaming" is conscious "dreaming," that is,
it takes place while you're awake.
10. Can anyone learn lucid dreaming?
BT: I think so. For the non-sighted, dreaming doesn't have to mean
visual dreaming.
LG: I believe that anyone can learn to have lucid dreams. I don't
know of anything that could prevent it.
RS: Many people who have never had a lucid dream can learn to have
one. It seem easier for young people to learn but older people
have learned lucid dreaming as well.
11. How can I learn to be a lucid dreamer? What does it take?
RS: You need time, space, energy to make the effort and strong
motivation.
JG: Getting to know yourself pretty well as a dreamer and as a
person with
varying levels of awareness in various situations both waking and
dreaming.
Identifying specific blocks to your lucidity and updating those
arrangements.
Read about dreams and especially sample dreams before going to
sleep. Welcome
all of your dreams!
LG: It takes dedication and a genuine interest in lucid dreaming.
However, don't
try too hard. Be persistent, but also patient and gentle with
yourself.
12. Does improving dream recall help induce lucidity?
RS: Yes, but not invariably.
BT: Not likely.
LM: Not by itself. It's just the first step.
JG: Frequent recall helps a lot.
LG: I believe it can help. It certainly can't hurt!
13. What are the best books on lucid dreaming?
BT: LaBerge.
RS: LaBerge, Magallón, Brooks & Vogelsong.
JG: Ken Kelzer, Scott Sparrow, and Mortan Schatzman, Ed
LM: I'd add Oliver Fox and Jane Roberts.
LG: I'd add Celia Green.
(See references at end of article.)
14. What are the lucid dream induction techniques? How can I have
a lucid dream?
RS: Read LaBerge's book. The technique that works the best for me:
wake up when you reach your usual night's amount of sleep, less
two hours. Stay up one hour. Go back to sleep. Other techniques:
MILD, reality testing during the day, reading about lucid
dreaming.
BT: My best method is to awaken early, stay up from a few minutes
to 2 hours, then go back to sleep.
LM: Read *Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming,* by LaBerge and
Rheingold. I recommend early awakenings, also. However, if my
current dreams seem light years away from lucidity, I find it best
to take things in stages. I don't try to go from zero to sixty in
a single night. Instead, I rev up my consciousness by getting my
non-lucid dreaming self more active: I incubate flying dreams. A
couple nights of non-lucid flying means it's oh, so much easier to
go lucid from this new plateau of energy.
LG: The power of suggestion and frequent reality testing works
best for me. I keep telling myself that I will have a lucid dream
that night.
15. What does reality testing mean and what are the best methods?
LG: Reality testing means checking to see whether you are dreaming
or awake. Sometimes you can believe that you are awake when you
are in fact dreaming.
That's where testing the reality of your situation comes in. In
other words, if you can fly, you're dreaming. Personally, reading
and re-reading text works best for me. Rarely has text ever
remained stable in my dreams when I've attempted to re-read it.
RS: Attempt to read and reread print. Jump up and see if you
float, even a little bit. Generally speaking, if one is
questioning one is in a dream, one is.
BT: Well, don't jump out a window or off a cliff.
LM: I don't like to use reality testing techniques because I've
observed that they encourage the production of false awakenings
(where you have to test because you aren't sure you are lucid). I
think it's much more effective to incubate full lucid dreams
(where you're sure from the get-go).
16. How well do lucid dream induction devices work?
LM: I don't know myself. Every time I drifted into sleep, I'd
automatically grab the visor and pull it off!
RS: They work best when people are doing other things as well to
enhance lucidity such as reality testing during the day, LaBerge's
MILD techniques, waking early.
BT: Well, it worked once for one dreamer and never worked for
another. n=2. That's 50%. :-) Ask if they have a money-back
guarantee.
LG: Like RS, I think they work well when you are trying other
techniques to induce lucidity as well. I wouldn't want to become
dependent on any device to induce my lucidity. I prefer to do it
myself, and not rely totally on outside means. But a little boost
once in a while doesn't hurt.
17. How can I use lucid dreaming for nightmares?
BT: If you're lucid, invite the nightmare character into your
dream and beat the @#$%! out of him. :-)
LG: Some people advise confronting and combating nightmarish
characters, while others suggest making peace or embracing
nightmarish characters. I believe that whether a combative or
passive approach works best depends upon the type of nightmare and
the type of person experiencing the nightmare.
RS: The more I developed lucid dreaming, the less nightmares I
had. Regarding scary figures, once you become lucid, fear often
disappears. Otherwise, some people combat. Others make friends or
merge and find the scary figures altered. Perhaps the best way to
make scary figures go away is to ignore them and interest yourself
in other aspects of the dream.
LM: I've used lucid dreams to experiment with the intensity of
fear. Sometimes when I've encountered a scary figure, I've stood
my ground to see how much fear I could take before losing the
dream. Same with frightening events like earthquakes or slipping
down a hill.
18. How can I keep from waking up right after I become lucid?
BT: Spinning worked once.
LM: Look at your hands. Hold on to something.
RS: Keep active in the dream and try not to get too excited. That
can wake you up.
LG: Remain relatively calm and touch things, or fly, or otherwise
engage directly in the dream environment. Sometimes singing helps
too.
19. Is it possible to forget you've had a lucid dream?
BT: Umm, I forget.
RS: Yes.
LG: On one occasion, I recalled many hours after waking that I had
been lucid the night before, so I guess it's quite possible that
you could forget you had a lucid dream.
20. What do people do in lucid dreams?
LG: I think you are limited only by your imagination.
BT: Sex, fly, appear and disappear, play with the dreamscape, get
in touch with guide figures, walk through walls.
RS: Many people enjoy doing things that they can't do in waking
life like flying or walking through walls. Some people try
experiments they or others have devised. Some people like to
explore the dreamscape. There are probably as many different lucid
dream activities as there are lucid dreamers.
LM: Geez, how many hours do you have?
Questions Where We Passed, Took the Fifth, Etc.
How do I control my lucid dreams?
LM: (This was asked by someone who assumed that lucid dreams were
*completely* controllable. The consensus is: they aren't.)
To what extent can I control my dream?
LM: (Truth is, nobody knows.)
Where can I find training on lucid dreaming?
LM: (Nobody knows of any training course.)
Why (physiologically) do we have lucid dreams? How does the
brain produce lucid dreaming?
LM: (Good references: LaBerge and Gachenbach & Bosveld.)
How do I use the lucid dream states with clients in the
psychotherapeutic setting?
LM: (There are a whole bucket-load of reasons why I think this is
a bad idea. Nobody disagreed with me.)
Are lucid dreams interpreted differently than non-lucid dreams?
LM: (See the articles by Robert Waggoner and me in LDE No. 23.)
References
Brooks, Janice E. & Jay A. Vogelsong. The Conscious Exploration
of Dreaming. Bloomington, IN: 1st Books Library
(www.1stBooks.com), 2000.
Fox, Oliver (Hugh Calloway). Astral Projection. Secaucus, NJ:
The Citadel Press, 1980.
Gachenbach, Jayne, & Jane Bosveld. Control Your Dreams. NY:
Harper & Row, 1989.
Green, Celia. E. Lucid Dreams. Oxford: Institute of
Psychophysical Research, 1968.
Kelzer, Kenneth. The Sun & The Shadow: My Experiment With Lucid
Dreaming. Virginia Beach, VA: A.R.E. Press, 1987.
LaBerge, Stephen. Lucid Dreaming. Los Angeles: Jeremy P.
Tarcher, 1985.
LaBerge, Stephen & Howard Rheingold. Exploring the World of
Lucid Dreaming. NY: Ballantine Books, 1990.
Magallón, Linda Lane. Mutual Dreaming. NY: Pocket Books 1997.
Roberts, Jane. Seth, Dreams and Projections of Consciousness.
Walpole, NH: Stillpoint Pub., 1986.
Schatzman, Mortan (Ed.) Hervey de Saint-Denys: Dreams and How To
Guide Them. London: Gerald Duckworth & Co., Ltd., 1982.
Sparrow, Scott. Lucid Dreaming: Dawning of the Clear Light.
Virginia Beach, VA: A.R.E. Press, 1976, 1982.
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Falling Dreams
© 2003 Linda Lane Magallón
(From "How To Fly")
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The bottom drops out of your dreams, you start to sink and there's
nothing to hold on to. You're falling, falling, falling.
Especially from a great height, the sensation can be terrifying.
Or, it might be quite an exciting thrill. Even a short fall can be
such a surprise that you jerk awake.
I suspect that loss of equilibrium became a critical problem for
us, as a species, when we started to walk upright. Some say that
fear of falling is a remnant of those times long past when
remaining high in the trees was necessary for our survival. We do
seem to have a well-developed awareness of the end of the bed, so
that we don't tip over its edge every night. But that could be
learned behavior since infants and toddlers sleep surrounded by
barriers so they won't roll onto the floor. At its best, fear of
falling serves as a very useful system, warning us about lack of
balance in waking life. But if we take that fear into sleep, it
can be detrimental to our desire to fly.
A falling dream can, of course, be put through the interpretation
mill to find symbolic significance. But some falling dreams have
no pictures attached! I think this is a case where it would be
advantageous to start, not with the imagery, but with the feeling.
After doing reality checks on falling dreams, I've concluded that
I really can't appreciate the "meaning" of a particular falling
dream unless I first track down whatever stimulated the sensation.
Falling dreams can be due to a replay of a vivid feeling that
occurred during the day. Because of the sharp sensations involved,
the intensity might not dissipate by the time we go to sleep. It
might be a sensation occurring while we sleep. Or it can be
anticipatory or precognitive of a possible event to come.
Replay of An Actual Fall
Biking, climbing, equestrian and aerial sports have quite intense
feelings attached to them. Your falling sensation might occur if,
during the day, you tumble off your mountain bike when it slips on
some loose gravel. The experience is embedded in your body just
like those pebbles are embedded in your knees.
In some cases, the memory of an actual fall can be so vivid that,
when the experience is called up again, even the sensations come
along for a ride. You fell down the stairs when you were younger.
Today, when you find yourself teetering at the top of the
stairway, your warning system turns on with a vengeance and
doesn't turn off before bedtime.
Sometimes it's easy to link your dream with the fall, or its
sensational memory, because the previous day's experience is so
vivid. But don't forget the familiar sinking sensations of
controlled falls. Did you ride an escalator or elevator yesterday?
The fall or its recall doesn't have to impress your conscious mind
much. It can be a peripheral event that is repressed or a
subliminal event that is not fully recognized. If your attention
is directed elsewhere when you quickly recover from a minor
stumble, the tactile sensation of falling and your emotional
reaction to it might not be allowed full expression. Until you go
to sleep.
Replay of Feeling Due To Loss of Control
If you have an empathetic personality, you experience whatever
feelings would occur if you were in someone else's place. Whether
you watch the movies on TV, read a book, create imaginary
tragedies in your mind or listen to a lecture on a distressing
topic, you can conjure up the feelings that accompany the story.
But most feelings of falling are your own. A teenager dreamt
repeatedly that her car had no brakes. She went over a cliff and
started to fall. She associated the dream with her new drug habit.
This was an emotional reaction to a real experience, but one that
had a sensation attached to it. Where biochemistry is involved,
loss of balance can be linked with feelings of vertigo.
One woman had falling dreams after her husband received a
promotion. He was on the way up, but she didn't have the same
feeling of security about the situation. Quite literally, she
"felt" the lack of the familiar sense of bonding, not as a
concept, but as a sensation of being set adrift. A teenager with a
Catholic background had a series of falling dreams after she
started sleeping with her boyfriend. Her conscience bothered her
and she felt uneasy. She was on her own, without the familiar
"moral support." When you're stripped of defenses or secure
structure, you really can "feel" like there's nothing to hold you
up.
Often, such loss of self-control is linked with a sinking feeling.
For the child whose parents were in the throes of separation, the
sinking sensation came from feeling rejected. Another boy dreamt
of falling down the school stairs the night after he presented a
poor report card to his parents. His sinking feeling was guilt
over past failings plus concurrent loss of parental love and
approval. The sinking feeling can also be associated with loss of
confidence, loss of status or fame, social mishaps, failure to
complete goals, financial and property loss and loss of either
faith or inflated pomposity.
One woman dreamt she was entering her psychotherapist's office. As
she stepped inside, a trap door opened and she was suddenly
falling down into the sewers of Paris. When awake, she described
the trap door as a kind of ambush carefully planned by another
person, which put the victim in a completely different place.
These ideas described her feelings about her analyst and the type
of work he was having her do. She wanted to have a companion and
guide to the dream underworld, rather than a person who would
ambush her and take her, without her consent, into scary places,
with no assurance of safety or security.
Concurrent Sensations
Illness, liquor, prescription drugs or changes in diet can induce
interior falling sensations while you slumber. You might react to
a dip in blood pressure, a glitch in the brain, the movement of
fluid in the middle ear or a vague awareness of breathing.
Relaxation followed by quick release of muscular tension, a
downpour of previously repressed emotions or an orgasm, especially
just prior to sleep, can provoke a falling dream.
A subliminal sense of external physical movement or lack of
gravity can result in dream falls, too. My husband had a falling
dream and awoke to find his feet dangling over the end of the
mattress. I had a falling dream during an earthquake.
When he was a boy, a dreamer was sleeping in a bunkbed when he had
a falling dream that ended with him bouncing off the ground. He
awoke to find it coming true. He reacted so vigorously to the
dream fall that he hit the bottom of his brother's upper bunk.
Par For The Course
Feelings of falling may occur while you're abruptly shifting your
state of consciousness. Don't be surprised if you experience these
sorts of sensations -- many people do. It's just a bump on the
journey. A quick switch from a lucid dream to the waking state can
jolt you. So can a surprising image that flies towards you while
you're watching the hypnogogic theater. You can come back from an
out-of-body experience and land with a thump. The myoclonic jerk
can occur as you sink into slumber. After all, it's called
"falling" asleep!
Worries and Warnings
To fear criticism or failure or loss of status can invoke a
sinking sensation. Your job is in jeopardy or your marriage is in
trouble. Because you had a bad experience in the past, you have
little confidence in the future and the anxiety churns up similar
falling sensations. The worry can also be due to the fear of
flying in an actual airplane or fear of falling down an actual
ladder or cliff. Sometimes you'll acknowledge such feelings;
sometimes not. Either way, your body feels it.
Dreamworker Ann Faraday dreamt of falling off the balcony of her
new apartment. After she woke, she examined the guardrails and
found them rickety and in need of repair. She'd seen the
guardrails the previous day, but had been too preoccupied to
notice their condition. In this case, the visual fact and the
possible consequence registered on the back of her mind and was
reintroduced in a dream.
Psychic Resonance
Space shuttle tragedies and all manner of airplane disasters have
been dreamt ahead of time; that is, the dreams were precognitive.
Most of these were clairvoyant views, with the dreamer as an
observer watching the events from the ground. I also believe it's
possible to dream telepathically, from the point of view of the
terrified victim.
However, not all psi dreams are negative. I dreamt of a tandem
hang gliding flight several years before it came true. So did my
sister, who was responding to an article I wrote about that flying
adventure.
When I was younger, I had repeating dreams of being a passenger in
a car that would slide across the road and fall off a cliff. That
was the sensation I felt whenever my parents went out of control.
Nobody at the wheel.
So, I wasn't surprised when, later in life, I dreamt of sliding
across 5 lanes of highway. However, this occurred after I'd been
doing quite of bit of psychological work to change parental
programming. I'm happy to say that the dream had nothing to do
with past family problems. Instead, the next day, as I was driving
home, a freak storm came up with plenty of driving wind and
torrents of water flooding the road. Because I wanted to get home
quickly, I remained in the fast lane until I rounded a corner and
came upon a place where converging traffic temporarily created 5
lanes of highway. The memory of the dream came rushing back.
Immediately, I put on my blinkers and, as soon as it was safe,
moved over to the right side of the road. And slowed down.
I consider this to be a precognitive dream. No, it didn't come
true. Thank goodness. I didn't slide across the road, because I
acted to change my future and control the drift. I was at the
wheel of my fate.
You can be, too. Once you figure out what induces your falling
dreams, you can act to change the situation. What you do, of
course, depends on what is stimulating the sensation. Here's some
suggestions:
1. Shift biochemistry and bedtime habits.
2. Pay attention to literal falling sensation during the course of
the day.
3. Prevent imbalance by being proactive. Fix your tires, buy new
shoes, get new glasses, repair your home environment.
4. Practice balance like children do. Walk a straight line on a
sidewalk crack, fall backward into your bed, roll down a grassing
slope or splash into a waterhole.
5. Play with the intensity of emotions and sensations by allowing
them to flow, then stopping, then starting once again. A movie
house is a good place to practice being enspelled by the emotions
of the story, then pulling out of the spell to look around the
theater, then allowing yourself to be drawn into the drama once
again.
6. Process falling sensations by allowing yourself full memory of
them just prior to sleep, then letting them dissipate.
7. Change your negative mindset. Think of falling not as a
problem, but as ride in your inner amusement park. Cultivate a
sense of humor.
8. Learn to fly by playing a video game.
9. Re-imagine your falling dream with a new ending. Let yourself
go and hit the earth. Convert falling into a delicious flying
dream. Fly faster, slower, lower, higher.
10. Look outward instead of inward. Imagine rescuing others who
are falling. Make it less about you.
11. Rehearse landings in your imagination.
12. Induce lucidity.
13. Use protective psi measures.
14. Incubate a new dream in which you'll face your fears.
The best way to handle falling dreams is to convert fear into fun
or prevent them from happening at all. Before you go to sleep.
References
Crisp, Tony. Dream Dictionary. NY: Dell Publishing, 1990.
Delaney, Gayle. Breakthrough Dreams. NY: Bantum Doubleday Dell,
1991.
Delaney, Gayle. In Your Dreams. NY: HarperCollins, 1997.
Dreams and Dreaming. Editors of Time-Life Books. Alexandria, VA:
Time-Life Books, 1990.
Faraday, Ann. The Dream Game. NY: Harper & Row, 1974.
Hill, Brian, Ed. Such Stuff As Dreams. London: Hart-Davis, 1967.
Hobson, J. Allan. The Dreaming Brain. NY: Basic Books, 1988.
Holzer, Hans. The Psychic Side of Dreams. St. Paul, MN: Llewellyn,
1992.
Mavromatis, Andreas. Hypnagogia. NY: Routledge, Chapman and Hall,
1987.
Pearce, Joseph Chilton. The Crack in the Cosmic Egg. NY: Pocket
Books, 1971.
Peirce, Penney. Dreams for Dummies. NY: IDG Books Worldwide, 2001.
Russell, Carol D. The Dream Explorer, 3-4.
Stevens, Anthony. Private Myths: dreams and dreaming. Cambridge,
MA: Harvard University Press, 1995.
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html
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A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE
August 2003
Hands Around the World
Jean Campbell
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It is difficult to know what to think these days, when suicide
bombers are killing dozens of people, not just "our" people, but
"their" people as well. During much of August, the dreamers of
The World Dreams Peace Bridge have been dealing with this type of
violence.
Recently, after the bombing of the UN offices in Baghdad, I wrote
this request to dreamers, not just on the Bridge, but elsewhere as
well. You are welcome to join us:
Dear World Dreamers,
I would like to take this opportunity to share with you the
response received from Veronica Avati at UNICEF Headquarters in
Baghdad, and to invite you to join in a World Dreams of Peace
Week between August
26 and September 1, 2003.
Veronica and others at the UNICEF Headquarters in Baghdad have
been instrumental in introducing us to Dr. Karzan Jalal Ali who
runs a clinic in northern Iraq, through whose efforts we have
attempted to facilitate our Aid for Children Project. Here is
Veronica's touching response to our condolences about the bombing
of the UN Headquarters in Baghdad earlier this week:
Dear Mr. Campbell, many thanks for your sincere thoughts and
words. Unfortunately we lost a dear colleague and friend in
Baghdad with so many others working at the UN.
It is a tremendous shock for all of us, but I truly hope that for
Chris, Jill and so many others that lost their lives, we will be
able to continue and pursue our work for the well-being of the
Iraqi children.
Sincerely and with so many thanks from the UNICEF office.
Veronica Avati
_________________________________________
For every child
Health, Education, Equality, Protection
ADVANCE HUMANITY
_________________________________________
Veronica Avati
Child Protection Officer
UNICEF Erbil - Northern Iraq
UNOHCI Int.Line: 001-212-963-4792 (ext.230)
Direct Line: 0041-22-909-5803 (ext.230)
e-mail: vavati@unicef.org
avativeronica@hotmail.com
Many of you have seen the message from Ralf Penderak in Germany,
suggesting that we dreamers take time to Join Hands Around the
World, not physical hands but our dream hands. We urge you to do
this during this World Dreams of Peace week, by setting your
intent for us to together dream of peace and, quite literally,
join hands around the world.
If you would like to record your experience, you can do this by
going to the message board at the World Dreams Peace Bridge
Reservoir
http://worlddreamspeacebridge.org/disc1_toc.htm
And actually, if you are feeling in need of healing, you might
like to explore the rest of the Reservoir pages as well.
Can we, together, create a peaceful world? We can most certainly
dream.
Thank you,
Jean Campbell, Moderator
The World Dreams Peace Bridge
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
This was a difficult letter to write, but even more difficult to
receive the response from those we have come to know in Baghdad,
through our work with the Aid for Children program.
Dr. Ali's clinic is in Northern Iraq, and even though we have not
yet been able to send the first toys to him, we have corresponded
quite regularly via email. Today Ilkin sent a news article to
those of us who have been working on the Aid for Children project,
talking about the worsening conditions in Northern Iraq, due to
ethnic conflicts.
Bridge member Jody Grundy sent the following response to the above
post:
Dear Jean and all world dreamers,
Yes, I did read about the World Dreams Peace Week and Hands Around
the World. You have my hands and my dreaming mind, conscious and
unconscious joining in. I will offer whatever comes from these
states of mind during the "dream in."
I had read your letter of condolence Jean and am touched by it as
well as the response. Thank you for all of us. I wept when I heard
of the bombing of the UN in Baghdad and cannot stop thinking of
those serving there as well as all their loved ones and colleagues
in the UN here. I feel as others do as well I'm sure particularly
poignant and deeply deeply saddened by the chosen vulnerability of
their mission in Baghdad. I do not know if it was wise or not.
Obviously to not have had more security was unwise with hindsight.
But symbolically it was and is important.
As you know my son David who is an ER physician and Captain in the
US Army Reserves is still there in the war theater. He has been
serving in Kuwait and has gone in and out of Iraq on med
evacuation missions as well. Though our communication has been
limited we have had a more direct view than many of what is
happening and conditions there via his photos and letters. It is
indeed a living hell for all concerned, our servicemen and women
as well as the Iraqi people. David is hopefully coming out of
Kuwait/Iraq sometime between now and the end of August, returning
to GA and then even more hopefully, home by mid Sept. to
Cincinnati.
I am aware that the peace dream in week is just during the period
he is most likely to remove from the war zone. Please keep him and
the others removing from that zone in your prayers and dreaming
during this time as well that they may make it out safely, both
physically and psychologically.
I am grateful to you Jean and to all of you on the Bridge for your
many and continued efforts to keep reaching out your hands for
peace. I continue to do so with you in my own context, so know I
remain part of this community even if I don't write very often.
May: I owe you a special letter since I've dreamt of you since the
Berkeley conference. Jeremy:I owe you one too! thanks for your
call before you left the States. I was traveling and so missed the
call. I have not forgotten the idea of doing something here in
Cincinnati with children for the Peace Train.
Also, for everyone's interest I am thinking about a small
gathering of dreamers here in Cincinnati, OH on the theme of
Dreams of Peace. I just met with Phil King of ASD who many of you
know lives and teaches in Hawaii. However, his hometown is Yellow
Springs, OH, about an hour north of Cincinnati and he's on a
sabbatical back home here in Ohio. I visited him there today and
spoke about this group and the idea of doing something together on
a gathering of Dreams of Peace.
So far it's just a seed thought, a very small seed of peace. But
I'll draw a little water from the Dream Reservoir and mix it with
my own garden's soil and see what sprouts.
Love to all and may peace that surpasses understanding fill us to
overflowing,
Jody Grundy
Earlier in the month, we celebrated A Day out of Time along with
Thanks to Water. These were some of the enjoyable things we do,
and there were lots of wonderful dreams. Also, World Dreams web
master, Liz Diaz created a most beautiful addition to the
Reservoir pages for this event. To view the healing energy of the
Reservoir, go to www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org and look for the
Reservoir pages. We welcome you to join us there.
Many lovely things have been happening with the Peace Train as
well this month. There will be a Peace Conference in Turkey in
October, sponsored by IFLAC. Ilkin Sungu has been asked to assist
in opening the conference with a roundtable discussion about women
and peace.
Here's part of a post a post she sent to a number of women
dreamers:
I have to write a presentation paper for the IFLAC International
Peace Conference, which will be held in Turkey. I am a journalist
and had been wrote many articles about women issues before. But
this time I have to write an opening paper for a Roundtable
Discussion on "Women and Peace; Can Women Create A Massive
International Peace Movement?". It is easy to write about the
history of women movements or what women suffers from the wars.
But what I want to write is what all of you, every one of you
think about if it is possible we can create this and how.
I want to write a song, be your sound of a song written every line
from another woman from around the world. Please write me what you
think, what you feel at least in a single line. I believe those
lines will be a song, a paper written by all of us from the
farthest parts of the world and show us our way for what can we do
when we come together, sing a song together and work for peace
together.
At this same conference, Ilkin has also arranged for children from
Koc College to present a peace dance, and many of the Peace Trains
created through the Education Volunteers' summer program in Turkey
will be displayed.
Peace Train creator, Jeremy Seligson, traveled to Ecuador this
summer after attending the ASD Conference in Berkeley. He tells
this story about the Peace Train in Ecuador:
As for Ecuador, on the last day of my visit to the
Andean Highlands. I asked the guide if we could visit
a local school. We arrived at an elementary school in
a small town and were told that the students were
taking final exams and to come back in a half hour. We
returned from a volcano about 40 minutes later and saw
many students leaving from a door - oh, it was too
late! Then, the guide realized that this was a
kindergarten door and the elementary school was a
meter away. The students were still inside. The
principal and a teacher allowed me to address a class
of 30 6th grade, mostly Indian girls in their blue
pinafort school uniforms. They were charming and
serious, too. And sang out brightly as I asked each of
their names. "Jaunita ...!"I spoke in broken Spanish
but they could understand me and what I wanted from
them concerning the Ecuadorean Children's Peace Train.
With the help of Eloisia, who handed out paper and
crayons, they careful drew in margins on their pages
and began to draw pictures of peace in their lives,
sometimes calling out in Spanish, who has Red! Who has
Green ...!
I had hung up a poster from the Korean Chidl;ren's
Peace Train on the white board in front for all to
see, and then as the girls finished the drawings one
by one I substituted their drawings for display.
Afterwards I asked of they wanted their pictures
taken. They got all excited and clustered up around me
their pictures held in hand in front of their bodies.
Unfortunately I only had my daughters throw away
plastic underwater camera and it seem out of order,
not turning as I tried to change the frame. But they
were so eager to have their pictures taken that I just
pretended to do so, arranging them in groups here and
there and requesting them to smile. This was fun for
everybody. I spun the dial of the camera and after a
while it seemed to be moving though there seemed to be
no indication of break between the pictures, and ata
last it read zero frames. If lucky maybe one or half
of once will come out! Que lastima! Right Liz?
Anyway I have enough for a nice little train and some
other people I met in Ecuador may help too.
And finally, on an even cheerier note, several people from the
World Dreams Peace Bridge have been participating for the past
month in Harry Bosma's(Alchera software creator from the
Netherlands) More Lucid Dreams experiment. It appears that they
have not forgotten me, even though I could not participate. Here
is a recent post from Kathy Turner (Australia):
Jean - I think you must be popping in to see what is happening at
Harry's Lucid Dream project. THREE of us have dreamed of you in
the last two days!!! JILL dreamed you sent her a cheque for $5 (I
think that is the correct amount). LAURA dreamed you walked
through her mansion dream in a green peace T shirt. I dreamed I
returned your photo to you. You were pleased to have it back
because your husband didn't like your lending it (he'd given it to
you initially). I had written a "thank you" note of four words on
the back in blue biro. I hoped that wouldn't cause a problem.
So Jean - what do you think of this??
Kathy.
Of course, one thing I think of it is that it confirms what I
believe already: that together we are creating the world from our
dreams, that we are present in one another's dreams not just as
symbols of ourselves, but as ourselves. And that, if this is
true, then we can indeed dream the world into peace, assuming that
is our desire.
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/monthyupdates.htm
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come true happen daily on the Bridge. Join us. To learn more about
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Dream: "Wonder Dog"
Stan Kulikowski II
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DATE : 4 aug 2003 07:57
DREAM : wonder dog
=( yesterday, a sunday. i spent most of the morning and
afternoon, doing the final grades for my summer web page design
courses. i got done early, around 18:00. usually it takes me
until the wee hours of the weekend to get done, but there were
fewer students this summer than usual. it felt good to be able to
veg all evening with the tedious labor part of teaching done
early. mom and i watched _dr who_ at the end of the evening which
is our custom on sundays. one of my favorite episodes, _the hand
of fear_. i went to bed around midnight and read a novel for a
couple hours before turning off the light at 02:00. went to sleep
easily and started dreaming right off. around 03:00 i woke to
take a piss and had been dreaming even by then. )=
i have come back to janeen's farm after all these years. i did
not know if she would welcome me or not, but she seems genuinely
glad that i am back. it is often difficult to tell with her what
her true feelings are, but she seems pleased enough with my
attentions for now. i devote myself to her complete satisfaction,
going and doing just everything she suggests. i think we are both
hoping to retire upstairs to her bedroom, but as i said, it is
difficult to determine intentions with her.
soon, however, we encounter her father, lester. he is a thin
farmer, a
very quiet but competent man. janeen seems pleased that we get
along so well together, so i spend a little time asking him about
his crops and the business of a small farm. after a while, he
says "you know, there is some hullabaloo in the basement that you
would be interested in."
i go down the dark rickety wooden stairs into the cellar. i find
the place rather well lighted once i get down there. i stop on
the bottom steps and stoop down to see under the floor rafters.
there are the usual collection of barn cats prowling around, but
at first i do not see anything unusual.
it does not take long, however, before i hear the sound of a
puppy up near my head. there is a cat laying in a shelf that
connects to the pantry. the puppy is in the pantry which is on the
first floor just slightly above my head. the cat just lays there,
not caring that the puppy wants to get past it to come investigate
me, the stranger here. at first the puppy noses left and right to
get around the cat, but then it steps onto space just above the
recalcitrant feline.
i am startled by this, so i pay close attention. the puppy keeps
walking hunched down between the cat and the top of the shelf, but
his paws flatten out in the air maybe three centimeters above the
cat. it is as if there were an invisible shelf board between them
and the puppy is crawling out on that.
once he gets out at the end, his paws hang over the invisible
shelf but by now his whole body is just suspended a short distance
above the cat below. he then pushes out to jump down. i jerk
around in an attempt to catch the puppy as it is almost a two
meter drop from the height of my head to my feet on the stairs,
but his fall stops at about my shoulder with another invisible
shelf that is not there. the puppy walks around me in the air at
that height, franticly wagging its short tail and whining for my
attention.
it certainly has my attention. i scratch behind its ears and on
its tummy when it rolls over, behaving in every respect as if it
were on some solid surface. but my hand encounters nothing when i
wave it through the plane where the dog is frolicking.
after a while, in the way of puppies, the young dog loses
interest in me now that i have paid my respects and am no longer a
stranger. it jumps down in a series of steps upon equally
invisible surfaces until it reaches the real stairs and from there
onto the cellar floor. there it starts to pester whatever other
cats are in range, who patiently put up with the young creature.
from out of the further reaches of the basement, comes greg
olley, a psychologist from the university of massachusetts. "ah
stan." he greets me. "i see that you have noticed our wonder
dog."
"i certainly have. just what do you make this?"
"well, he seems to have an extraordinary control of gravity." he
answers me.
for a while i watch the puppy jumping up upon invisible surfaces
whenever it suits its purpose.
"you know, it seems that this puppy does seem to obey gravity
while defying it." greg looks at me with puzzlement. "his
defiance of what we consider to be gravity is only in the fall
space downward. any movement in lateral direction is always with
normal leg motions as if he were walking on a surface, and it
never levitates in an upward direction. if he had cancelled
gravity, inertia would take his movements in any direction
indefinitely far. this puppy only moves upward by normal jumps
onto the invisible steps. the control is only to stop falling."
greg thinks about this for a moment. "you mean, perhaps he is
somehow generating personal movement surfaces in space, or the
air, or ether or something. a place that only he can benefit
from."
i agree. "yes, that would be a more conservative hypothesis.
rather than actually refolding the spacetime continuum which is
required to alter gravity, a surface tension cohesion of air
molecules could be strengthened to account for the localized
support he gets."
greg nods his head. "that should be testable." he scoops up the
puppy and we both go upstairs with it to the kitchen.
"whose dog is it?" i ask. i had assumed that it belonged to
janeen's parents, but they never kept any dogs, just barn cats for
their traditional utility in rodent control.
"someone i know from off campus noticed the unusual behavior of
this puppy once it got its eyes open." he tell me. "apparently
there was something peculiar in the way it squirmed around with
the other newborns, but the controlled use of space did not become
obvious until it could see. they then called me at the university
to come investigate."
"well, if you need to find an owner for it, and do not want to
take it yourself, i could probably convince my mother that we
should keep it." i tell him. "she has been saying that a small
dog might be alright, and clearly this will not grow to be as
large as agamemnon."
after a while a thought occurs to me. "how much video do you
have of this phenomenon?"
greg answers. "none yet. i had thought to wait for a quick
action grant from the dean's office."
"hm, that might be risky." i caution him. "what if the puppy were
to die tonight from some accident."
greg nods his agreement and leaves to find his personal camcorder
from his travel bag in the other room. soon he is taping the
puppy's remarkable
antics like a proud father. i notice his camcorder is a little
odd. it looks like a spherical eyeball cam mounted on a leather
head strap, i suppose for hands free taping. an umbilical cord
runs down to a waist pack for batteries and tape mounted on his
belt.
uhoh, i catch a glimpse of janeen now outside gathering flowers.
through the window, her look directed toward me is one of
exaggerated disappointment. i wish greg well with his
experimental endeavors and hurry out to catch up with her.
"finally realize where you were?" she says to me coldly while
cutting off an orange tiger lily blossom. janeen only pays
attention to gardening when she is pissed off about something: a
recreational therapy she thinks. otherwise she prefers to buy
everything as a mark of civilized conduct.
"oh, come on." i say to her plainly. "that little dog could
change our understanding of how the universe works." but she
grants me no leniency.
we walk together quietly, not saying anything. i fear that
anything i have to offer will just make the matter worse, yet she
is at least tolerating my presence with her however badly.
after the next couple of flowers gathered, i can see the pattern
of her arrangement. i scoop her up into my arms and lean forward
to fly us over the tops of the yard, household gardens and nearby
weed lots. with concentration, i am able to stop just above the
hollyhocks like we were a bee visiting the flowers.
even this togetherness does not please her. when i set her down
beside a wild flower patch, she turns from me to cut the blossom.
"at least you could leave on your own this time." she dismisses
me coldly.
she is right. i jump into the air and fly hastily away over the
farm fields in anger. the emotion adds a certain speed to my
flight control. i wonder why that puppy's interruption of gravity
is seemed so significant when my own flight capacities might
supply just as much evidence. but flying seems so natural to
humans, especially when in some emotional stress. perhaps the
dog's innocent and easy use of space is the real point of it all.
=( awake at 07:44. i sit right up to get as much of this dream
into the computer as i can. there were some lengthy dream segment
about conflicted dating rituals with other women before i got to
this part with janeen, but i do not try to capture them as the end
of this dream with the little dog seemed more interesting and more
vivid in recall. many associations here. the puppy was cute, but
i do not know what to make of its unusual behavior. i usually do
not care for little dogs. agamemnon was my great dane, dead now
five years. janeen had a great dane like him, booray, who she
gave to me when she dumped me out of her life. booray died in
1987. janeen did live on farm in hadley massachusetts when we
were a couple for about a year, but the farm i was seeing belonged
to the family of my second wife, janet. the father farmer,
lester, was janet's dad. i hardly ever met janeen's parents even
though they lived next door to her. i do not remember them very
well anyway. greg olley was a psychologist who i knew at umass,
but he left there before i ever met janeen. i have not dreamt of
janeen very much recently, but she was common in my dreams once
long ago. she did abruptly dismiss me from her life with little
motivation concerning me it seems. like this dream, her deepest
affections were never very evident, probably even to herself. she
was one of the most beautiful women i was ever involved with. one
of the last things i found out about her was that she did not even
spell her name correctly, preferring the french to the slavic
spelling she was given by her parents. untrue to the heart,
straight through the core. obviously, i miss her but i try to
tell myself that i would consciously avoid being entangled with
her again, no matter how much i might otherwise long for it. )=
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The Waves: 05. Children's Dreams
Cosmic Moon (June 27 to July 24, 2003)
© 2003 Nick Cumbo
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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea
Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims
to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe,
collaborating in mutual dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with
and for the earth itself'
Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
This moon, we'll be looking at dreams, and their significance to
children. We'll also be drawing on the wisdom of dreams, as a
model for teaching, peace training, and the development of youth
culture.
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INTRODUCTION
When I think back to when I was about 10 or 12 years old, I am
sometimes reminded of the ancient Macintosh SE, we used as our
home computer. It was a tiny little thing; with a black and white
screen. Oh yes, it was a definite step-up from the typewriter we
owned before, but it was nothing compared to my neighbour's setup.
My neighbour lived up the hill, you see. We'd spend heaps of our
spare time with each other. Down at my house, you could play
cricket, build a cubby, annoy my parents, and generally have fun.
His house was very similar when I think about it, except for one
important difference. He had a much better computer; with a COLOUR
screen and many more games than mine. How I enjoyed playing games
like 'Bubble Bobble' together with my friend, seeing what new
levels we could reach. Unfortunately, I always had to go home at
the end of the afternoon. Quite probably, I was a little jealous
of my friend and his computer.
One morning, I was to wake from a particularly beautiful dream. In
the dream, I discovered to my surprise that my computer was no
longer limited to the simple black and white palette of before,
but was now capable of radiating the most immensely real colours.
Not only this, but it now came installed with an incredible game,
in which I was able to take control of a plane, directing it's
movement ever so easily around an astounding desert-like
landscape. It was as though, I suddenly found myself there in the
cockpit, exploring the ever-expanding boundaries of the world. And
it was then that I woke!
I woke, desparately holding onto the hope that I might walk into
the other room, to find that my parents really had been able to
afford a new computer. No such luck, it seemed. My computer
loaded, and it was still the same old machine. You can't imagine
the sense of disappointment it left me with, knowing that it would
probably be a few years before I could see anything like what I
had just experienced, again.
What if I'd never really needed to wait for the computer in the
first place! If only I'd realised that these opportunities had
been awaiting me in the world of dreams all along. Dreams can not
only transcend the limitations of our daily reality, but they also
make great stories to share with our friends.
Dreamsharing is great fun, and also a fantastic way of building
confidence in ourselves and our story telling ability. Considering
we supposedly spend an average of about 7 years of our lives
dreaming, it seems awfully important that we make time in our
lives to experience the benefits of dreamsharing at a younger age.
Given that I wasn't exactly encouraged to reap the gifts of
dreaming as a child, I feel a great desire to share them with the
children of today.
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TEACH THE CHILDREN
About two years ago, when I was about 18, and just realising the
joys of dreaming once again, I had a quite strange conscious/lucid
dream. In it, I found myself in my bedroom, quite unable to move.
My attention was immediately drawn to the walls, which seemed to
be covered in all different kinds of patterns and words.
I began searching for meaning, in the binary patterns, ancient
hieroglyphics, the photoshop icon, shown on each wall. Confused, I
finally turned to the window. Written above the window, I saw the
the words, 'Teach the Children'. Very clear to the eye, but I
couldn't understand why the message was there. I sat expectantly,
wondering what I was to be taught. As the moments passed, it
suddenly occurred to me that this was something I had been
entrusted to do.
There are many varied ways and methods which can be used to teach
children (or anyone else for that matter). I believe this was the
message behind the variety of patterns on each wall in my dreams,
and something that's important for all teachers to remember. As
one example, we could look to Dee's 'Great Dreams' website, which
tells the story of a dream, in which she learnt about the use of
dominoes as a way of teaching children to count. Through dreaming,
I believe we can create fun and more worthwhile methods of
teaching which are actually enjoyable for the students.
Thankfully, I've recently reached the point where I've decided to
make a big transition in my chosen career, moving from an
'Internet Technologies' degree to a degree in Primary School
Education. I can't wait to get started.
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A FUN PARK
I'm also a member of the World Dreams Peace Bridge, the home from
which Jeremy's fantastic Peace Trains dream was initially born.
Recently in discussion, Jean Campbell and others have suggested
the idea of 'Kids on the Bridge'. The basic concept is to give a
place for children to share dreams and peace inspiring discussion
online; making room for the advent of 'digital' peace trains
between children of various cultures. A web forum probably being
the best way of achieving this.
As a result, a key part of project on Children Dreams, focused on
using our dreams as a source of guidance for the development of
the forum. The first dream that really got us thinking about a
possible theme for the Children's forum came from a member Kat.
"The dream takes place at an amazingly awesome water park. Its no
regular 1, there are huge water slides (a couple of stories tall
if I recall correctly), and all of these other water things that U
can enjoy playing in. The cool thing about this water park is that
there are water slides with water pushing down AnD up. I recall
thinking to myself that this must be a 1 of a kind water park..and
I was right. Another amazing feature of this water park is a HUge
water slide that eventually turns into a see-through tunnel that
goes underwater. Once you get to that part..you are very amazed at
the sea life that is there. There are all kinds of sea creatures
and beautiful sea plants. This was something that i especially
loved! There was something else that you could do in this water
park that i found a bit ..scary. You could choose to go scuba
diving. This might sound fun, but the scary part is that you only
had the snorkle in your mouth. No other breathing apparatus. I
found this weird and unsafe so I decided not to do it."
Given that our forum is called 'Sea Life', it immediately occurred
to me that perhaps the theme of the new forum for children was a
water/fun park. Kat's dream seemed to bridge the two forums
together. The sentiments were echoed soon after by a dream of
Jessica's, which seemed to give life to the notion of a 'Peace
Train' travelling around the park.
"For some reason I am back at high school confirming that they
have all my records in order before I go off to college. Then the
whole graduating class is going to an amusement park to celebrate.
There is a train going around the park but it is levitating over
the 4" wide track. There is also something about a pool in the
park"
In another of my own dreams, I asked what we could to improve the
tentatively named, Children's Peace Trains Forum. Waking, I
retained a clear image of a ferris wheel in park. What made this
interesting, was that it not only linked in with the concept of a
fun park, but I was also instantly reminded of Dee Finney's Great
Dreams website, which I had visited only a few days earlier.
Great Dreams: http://www.greatdreams.com/children.htm
What really stood out to me about this page, was a beautiful image
of a ring of faces, which could be seen to be representative of
the people of various races (yellow, red, black, white); retaining
their individuality, and also meeting together in the center as
one. The dream seemed to highlight the importance of encouraging
racial equality at the forum; and thus the world around us.
Interestingly, at the bottom of the Great Dreams site, Dee shares
an image from one of her own visions. In the image, one sees a
line of children; the faces of the children being depicted exactly
the same way as those in the drawing made by Joseph Mason. In the
vision from which the image is drawn, the children are singing
joyfully "These are the Changes, These are the Changes!". Dee
reports realising at that moment 'that the Earth Changes are not
just about the changing of the Earth with volcanoes, storms,
hurricanes, horrible accidents, and deaths of a majority of
humanity, but the raising of consciousness of the people
themselves". It is my opinion, that we should be making children
more aware of the gifts they can bring to the future of the Earth,
and all that which lives upon it.
Determined to find out more about how I could accomplish this, I
ventured once again into dreaming. The dream turned out to be more
like catching a miniature episode from the twilight zone. In the
vision, I'm on a train passing by a station (familiar to me in
dreams as a place of discovery/opportunity). I see a whole group
of young teenagers with their backpacks on, standing along the
platform. The train doesn't stop at the station.
Waking, I was a bit confused, I wasn't exactly sure if this group
made the cut to be termed 'children'. To be honest, they seemed a
bit old. I decided to put the interpretation of the dream on hold
for a moment. A few days later it's significance became clear
through a fantastic example of mutual dreaming.
That weekend, I went off to stay in a tipi with my friend Alana.
As I went off to sleep, I asked her if she'd join me in a dream,
to retrieve a gift for the children. Over the course of the night,
the fire went out, and the tipi quickly became a rather cold
little sleeping area. Sitting up in the bed, I noticed Alana wake,
and decided to tell her about my dreams from the night. She
laughed, as I did this, recalling an earlier event. Apparently, it
was very funny.
"Yeah. You woke me up in the middle of the night, and told me how
five spirits came to you in our sleep".
"What???", I replied, bewildered. "I didn't have a dream like
that, and I certainly didn't tell you about it! Haha. You must
have dreamed about the conversation
"
"Haha. Yeah. You told me that they were 14,15,16,17, and 18" she
continues, considering the possibility a little shyly.
Her response left me in awe. It seemed she'd dreamed the advice,
directly for me, even though I had not mentioned anything to her
about age groups with regards to the Children's Peace Trains
forum. Her dream reinforced the importance of 'children' of all
ages, having access to a forum where they can work together to
create peace in our world.
Though it may seem a little separative, I think it's important to
recognise that realistically speaking, there are some significant
differences between how children of these two age-groups may
communicate and the topics they are likely to wish to discuss.
Together, I believe that a forum for each group, would form a
great basis for improved peace awareness amongst school children
of all ages.
These forums are currently in development. If you'd like to help
out, or simply register your interest in the concept, please send
me an email (the address is listed at the bottom of the article).
Your input or words of support, really do make a difference.
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ABORIGINAL DREAMING
Returning from my little holiday in the tipi, I set off on my walk
home from the train station. Settling, into a relaxed pace, my
attention was suddenly drawn to the window of the fire station. If
I were being honest, I might admit that I couldn't help gazing at
my reflection, to check that I wasn't too messed up and worn out
from my travels.
Lucky I did! There, hanging from the clear reflective glass of the
fire station, was a shiny new poster. 'Our Future, Our Children',
the theme of 'NAIDOC Week', an event held by the 'National
Aboriginal Islander Day Observance Committee', between the 6th and
13th of July. No stranger to the subtle chain of synchronicity, I
decided there was something more that I could do for this project.
http://www.naidocvic.com/
As it turned out, one of the key aims of NAIDOC, is "to promote
the rich Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander heritage and
increase the awareness of this heritage to all people on a
regional, National and International level". Considering that the
heart of traditional Aboriginal culture seems to lie in it's
dreamtime creation myth, it seems important to draw on the wisdom
of Aboriginal people in a project on Children's Dreams.
In 'Mysteries of the Dreaming', James Cowan reveals the spiritual
life of Aborigines, that has remained a concealed behind a veil of
misunderstanding and prejudice. "The Aboriginal belief is that
before the dreaming or tjukurrba that is, before the Primodrial
Event had occurred an undending, featureless plain represented
this pristine landscape.. Not until the period of the Dreaming and
the mysterious appearance of the Sky Heroes, either from inside
the earth itself or from an ill-defined upper region, did the
landscape take on a truly cosmic significance and attain to form.
At the conclusion of the Dreaming period, the Sky Heroes
disappeeared from the face of the earth, leaving in their place
their personalised 'signatures' in the guise of topographic
landmarks, contour variations, trees, animals in fact, all
manifestions of life on earth."
One way in which we can learn from the Aboriginal people, is their
understanding of the animals with which we share the Earth. In my
own childhood, for example, I had a recurring nightmare of being
chased around a desolate landscape by a purple wolf. Sharing this
at the forum, it soon became apparent that I wasn't the only one
to have intense experiences with different animals in childhood
dreams. Valter reported a similar recurring dream, of a wolf which
lurked under the garden of his house. Another member, CCHawk, also
experienced the same recurring episodes:
"I was in my house, watching television... and Felix the Cat would
always be on. I'd watch it for a while when all of a sudden
there'd be a loud fwoosh noise, of the house exploding into
flames. The flames would start flooding in on all sides of me and
I'd be stuck on the couch scared. I also remember spiders and
snakes flooding in, and they'd surround me just as well. I'd start
crying and screaming for my mom and dad... but it wouldn't help,
and that's when I'd wake up. The dream would always be in third
person."
It is my opinion, that it is vital that we do our best to connect
with the animal spirits hunting us in childhood dreams. As a quite
experienced conscious dreamer, I've often found that overcoming
one's fear, and confronting these animals, can bring great gifts.
In a similar way, one can draw on the animal spirits to help us
deal with difficult situations in our day-to-day life. Animal
Spirits, is a very handy site with fantastic interpretations of
the qualities and wisdom of particular animals.
Animal Spirits: http://www.animalspirits.com/
The animal spirits, are no doubt a key part of Aboriginal culture.
"Aborigines identify with animal totems, for a totem is an
embodiment of each individual in his or her primodial state. That
is, before the individual was born into the world. The totem is a
sacred link with the Dreaming, with a man's incarnation as a human
being, with the Sky Heroes who created him. To sever this
connection is to destroy a man's spirit and ultimately his desire
to live. Indeed it is impossible for an Aborigine to 'lose' his
totem, except by way of cultural disruption, as in the case of
many urban Aborigines unfortuante enough not to have been born
within a totemic environment". (Mysteries of the Dreaming)
While I'm not sure if the animals of our childhood dreams, were
necessarily our totem animals, I do believe that they appeared in
our dreams for a reason, and that at the very least we could have
moved from being immensely scared of them, to finding out more
about their qualities and skills of survival in the wild.
While I didn't get to do as much dreaming with the aboriginal
people as I would have liked, I did manage one interesting
adventure.
"I become lucid, and decide to go off in search of 'Young
Aboriginal Dreamers'. I start singing my intention out aloud, and
let myself be pulled off into the astral, with some intensity. I
continue singing, asking my 'higher self' to guide me.
I eventually end up in a school classroom, surrounded by a whole
group of young aboriginal boys. They all seem to have pretty short
hair, and are quite young. Their smiles are very beautiful. I
smile back, "Is it okay, If I ask you some questions?". The boys
don't seem to mind at all, in fact they are quite eager to speak
to me.
One boy in particular draws my attention. Round faced, and kinda
cheeky looking (in a very friendly way). I ask him what school I'm
at. It's really funny, he doesn't bother answering that question.
Instead, he grins, apparently "there's a girls school down the
road". He seems to have his own priorities"
Upon waking from this dream, I couldn't help but laugh, at his
humorous response. It wasn't quite what I was expecting, but
certainly it was a great lesson, about just how similar people
are, regardless of race.
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THE TREASURE CHEST
This year, saw the beginnings of our first annual 'Treasure Chest
Dafumu' (dream of big good fortune), launched in collaboration
with the World Dreams Peace Bridge, and timed to coincide with the
beginning of the new year of the 13 Moon Calendar, July 26th. By
sheer synchronicity, this is also the date of Jeremy's original
Peace Trains dream.
The principle behind this 'Treasure Chest Dafumu' resulted from an
earlier pair of dreams. At the time of the first , I'd just
started the site Dreampeace, and in the dream I was wondering what
other people would think of it. "Immediately, I notice a man on
the other side of the street, who gives me a gift. I 'see' with my
minds eye, an image of a treasure chest". Awakening from the
dream, I knew that this treasure chest, may contain all kinds of
gifts for the site. In the second, the concept evolved somewhat,
becoming two 'treasure' islands, which I liken to the websites of
Dreampeace and the World Dreams Peace Bridge.
In my conscious dream, I set out to retrieve a gift from the
treasure chest.
"I'm on a train. It pulls up to a station, and I suddenly realise
that I'm dreaming. I pause for a few moments, considering whether
or not to pull my awareness up a notch, and truly become the
Dreamer. I do.
I'm about to jump out of the train. It's almost a gut reaction to
suddenly realising I'm in a confined space. Yet, I soon recall my
intention to visit 'Treasure Island', why not let the train take
me there. It begins to accelerate, and I look around at the wide
mix of people. It's quite busy and I catch the sight of business
people amongst them. It feels like a morning train, yet I try and
focus my attention on running with the feel of the dream. I don't
wanna wake up.
The train starts to accelerate even more. We pass all kinds of
different buildings. I feel like I'm in Melbourne somewhere, and
this is soon confirmed with the sight of the city about 10km away.
My body is suddenly ripped out of it's current situation, and
begins being pulled along with tremendous speed. It feels natural,
yet I know it is not me who is choosing the direction. I am just
riding a current of energy.
It's really intense, and as I stream above the road, I hear an
outer voice. The familiar voice of an elder female spiritual guide
proclaims, "It's kinda like the devil" (as though introducing me
to where I'm being guided). I pause, voicing my concern that I'm
more guided by love. My guide seems to agree with my thoughts, but
continues with her previous statement ("It's kinda like the
devil"), "except that you'll be doing this to share"
I'm still racing, but I begin to fade. I'm really feeling
disappointed. Not now! Oh no, what can I do. I try alerting my
guide with my mind, hoping that they'll be able to help me out.
They must, because I end up back in my room. Everything is blurry
and dark, and I don't have full control over my movement, yet I do
catch the outline of a piece of paper. By focusing my awareness on
it, and gradually strengthening this feeling, I am able to bring
myself into my room, full-bodied.
There's this piece of paper there - especially for me. It's very
well presented, attractive but simple. I begin reading it.
Arranged along the paper are a series of different areas of
education in schools. Each area of teaching outlines a number of
specific guidelines, which are obviously considered important.
Some of these guidelines are also highlighted in bold, as a way of
noting that these are absolutely integral. The first area of
teaching shown is very general. The first guideline states that
there will be "state sets of teams". The only other guideline I
can remember specifically is something about 'binders' being
arranged in '65 pages'.
Following this, I see a whole series of different areas of
teaching. There must be at least 20-30 different areas, 'History',
'Physical Education', etc. I notice some of the guidelines are
specific suggestions for the booklist. By this stage, my memory is
getting a bit blurry. I'm having difficulty remembering the items
I looked at before.
I turn back to the beginning, and to my surprise, find myself
looking at a map. It's a map of Melbourne. I browse around it,
wondering what it's for. And I notice a large square in the south-
western, western suburbs. It must cover a width of at least 10-
15kms. I immediately know this to mean, that this is where the
program must begin. Moments later I wake."
This dream was a great inspiration for me, giving me great
confidence in the Education degree', I am set to begin next
semester. After a little thought, I quickly came to an
understanding of what the comment about the devil actually meant.
The devil strikes me as powerful, and I think what my guide was
trying to alert to me was that nothing's more powerful than
sharing.
Organising the children into "state sets of teams" seems very
important. I do alot of my dreamwork this way, and thus have a
strong recognition of how helpful this can be. Surely some of the
concepts I've learnt through my experiences with Sea Life, would
be of great assistance in this quest.
I was a little shocked to discover that I would be teaching in the
Western side of Melbourne, as I am currently at least 40km from
this area, and such a move was definitely not something I had
envisioned. Making the advice, seem all the more significant.
Meditating as to why I'd been directed to this area, I saw images
which reminded me of the higher crime rate in the area, and the
possibility that perhaps I could make a real difference to
education in a lower class area of Melbourne.
The experience itself, and the female guide, who accompanied me on
my journey, reminded me of a previous dream that took place soon
after beginning the Children's Dreams project.
"I am near a building of some kind. A quite young woman, familiar
to me (perhaps as a spirit guide?), is telling me that she is very
happy that I am interested in working with children's dreams and
peace trains. She seems wise, and has a nice aura. I feel she is
giving me her seal of approval. She gives me these small round
pots. I think they are to give to the children."
Given that I take a plant, as a symbol of growth, it seems to me
that these pots I was being provided with are a possible
educational framework for children. I am eternally grateful for
the assistance of my guides in this endeavour. Jean Campbell's
Treasure Chest dream, seemed to confirm the value of what is
beginning to develop:
"I came into a dining room where you were sitting at a table
surrounded by a bunch of kids, all around six or seven years old.
The kids were happy and having a lot of fun. You were passing out
ice cream in bowls, with different types of topping like chocolate
and strawberry.
You and the kids were singing (I don't know if you know this song,
but there's a kid song here in the US that goes, "If you're happy
and you know it, clap your hands...etc." That was the song you
were singing, but the words went, "That tomato soup's too messy,
eat ice cream." You sang this as you put a bowl of ice cream down
in the middle of one kid's bowl of tomato soup.
And that's it. That's the dream. But of course the thing was how
much fun you were having, and how much fun the kids were having,
and how much fun I was having watching it."
It made me laugh too, yet I couldn't help wondering what Jean's
personal interpretation of icecream was, to which she added,
"whenever I think about ice cream, I always hear in my mind the
thing I learned when I first learned about ice cream: "I scream,
you scream, we all scream for ice cream."
A friend Victoria, also a member of the World Dreams Peace Bridge,
has been involved with online dreaming communities for a long
time. As we're both from Melbourne, and both very interested in
education, we'll be doing our best to join forces in serving up
that icecream. Please do what you can to join us.
On that note, I'll leave you with a beautiful dream, from
Victoria's 6 year-old son Blake.
"There was a magic girl.
She lived in a house that isn't our house.
She lived in a witch house.
She went to magic school.
She had yellow hair.
She pointed her finger [showing me right index finger] and threw
magic. White one. She threw the white magic to our house. She made
our clock fly, and our table.
The magic opened and closed doors.
She can fly with a broom to school."
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We'll be back in a condensed form next moon, so stay tuned for the
results of our 'Journey to the Lucid Crossroads'.
Email: explora@dreamofpeace.net
Forum: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
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Dangerous Representations: Abstraction in Dreamwork
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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* Revised from a post to the ASD Bulletin Board, August 2003
I may have been catastrophizing a bit in suggesting that
representing dreams is dangerous. We have been ~representing~
dreams for millions of years and getting away with it.
And yet, representing is (can be) an act of abstraction and moving
away, into models and messages and codes of reality rather than
connecting with the particular and unique and singular in reality.
Pretty soon we are dealing and living and thinking in terms of
models of reality and codes of action, abstractions of the real.
That is, things are never what they are, they are models and
messages and means to something else. All the while, that
something else becomes more and more distant.
Henri Bergson worked on the problem of abstraction. Bergson
identifies the problem in the spatialization of time and gives the
metaphor of the tic-tock of the clock. These tick-tocks are each
uniquely individual, each one sounds slightly different, each
swing of a pendulum a slightly different distance, yet we tend to
see them all the same as abstract equal measures. And then we
begin to think of time itself as an equally measured substance. A
geometric net of equal spaces laid out over time. Bergson begged
Einstein not to abstract time. But for mathematics to work in
those days, one had to have equal, discrete measures. It is
powerful to abstract. I can look at an orchard of fruit and say,
"These are oranges, those are all apples." Though each fruit is
unique, I have now abstracted from them a similarity around which
I can group them and collect them and market them. Pretty soon I
will have more money and be spending my day thinking about apples
and oranges while someone I hire does the actual work with them. I
will count them on paper and the actual unique objects will recede
into the distance as the models and abstractions occupy my
attention.
What happens in the dreamwork where signs and symbols begin to
replace direct contact? Or is there ever any direct contact
anyway? Is human consciousness itself a process of abstracting?
Immanual Kant noted that for reason to work, it has to have and
hold a measure of a thing in space and time. If the object doesn't
have any time, and duration, it is outside our reason, and if its
spacial parameters exceed our measurements, it is outside all but
the most sublime reason. We first need to get a measure of an
object, then reproduce it, then hold up this object to
understanding for conceptual placement. But first we measure. If
we see something, we say, it's about half my size, its twice my
size. We may look at a tree and say its ten-men high. We look at
a mountain and say it's a hundred trees high. We scan the horizon
and say it's about 10 mountain ranges wide. If we encounter
something that we can't immediately get a measure of, we will
never be able to reproduce it, and thereby never be able to
determine its concept. There are times this happens, times our
perceptions will overwhelm us, like the times we get overwhelmed
by the starry night or the proximity of a volcanic eruption. For a
moment there is nothing to measure it against. If we survive, in
the next moment we at least find some sense of it in our concept
of the infinite, and at that moment we call the event sublime.
However, the point here is that for our reason to operate, it has
operate on something we have already turned into an abstraction.
We measure it out in time-space and reproduce it in our memory and
imagination and apply concepts.
Language too is the use of abstraction, representing and thereby
creating *things* from the plenum.
This is all not to just say that humans don't have anything but
abstracted awareness. Other possibilities of reception and
location exist. But the degree to which we are involved in the
process of abstraction is often diminished. Note that anytime we
deal with an object as an object, we are involved in abstraction.
How much of our lives involve recognizing and working with
objects?
Representation involves objects, and objects that take the place
of other objects. This barber's pole is a sign of a barber, but
not the barber himself. Not only is there a level of abstraction
needed to perceive the barber's pole as an object in general, but
there is another level of abstraction occurring in recognizing the
pole as a stand-in for another object. We could also talk about
another level of abstraction involving barber poles where they
represent barber's in general, but the point here is not to lay
out all the aspects of abstraction that humans perform, but to
point out the degree to which the process of abstraction is
involved in representation and representing.
The issue of representation is a conflict at the heart of
dreamwork and of civilization. Western civilization anyway. And as
far as I can see, now everybody in the world wants a pair of
Nikes. (that is, if they aren't a Western society now, they will
be soon). So without too much exaggeration I can speculate on a
global crisis in representation. Which representational system is
the highest, the best, the one above all others? Or can
anything/one represent us without diminishing our uniqueness?
Jean-Francois Lyotard has noted that there aren't any Grand
Narratives left to guide us on which system of representation to
use in interpreting the world. Anyone who tries to impose a Grand
Narrative or system of belief or value system beyond their own
personal sphere will run into argument and conflict.
We might look at this in terms of ~who~ gets to represent? That
is, which perspectives are privileged, and which perspectives are
marginalized?
To decide what the best dream interpretive system is, we have to
impose another system by which we can judge this. Values begin to
proliferate. Beauty, Justice, Peace, Honor, Survival.
Individuation, actualization, interpretations that are true to the
manifest dream, to the latent dream. It's quite a stage of
competing values from which to pick. But if we don't pick, there
is only nihilism.
Even more deeply, (if there is something now more deep than this
struggle with nihilistic relativism) is the question of
representation itself. In dreamwork, representation is such a
part of the game. At one level its completely necessary and
unavoidable. Recalling dreams is a form of interpretation, writing
the dream down, exactly as you recall it is a form of
interpretation, and each telling and discussion, even if its just
clarifying the imagery, is another layer of interpretation. As
Nietzsche has said, there is no data, only interpretation. And
each interpretation connects and object with a system.
In this sense, interpretation is unavoidable, and so we become
skilled and learn to do our best. We go to therapists, we build
dreamgroups, we become eclectic and take on a wide variety of
approaches. Or we get lazy and look up the meaning of a dream in
a dictionary. In all this, something is radically missed. The
dream is reduced to being a messenger and becomes, as Carl Jung
noted, about signs rather than symbols. That is, the dream image
becomes an object to be used. And in being a representation, it is
an object for some value that is imposing upon us. It doesn't
matter if the dream image is said to be a messenger from God or
the unconscious, or to prophetically represent the next day of
life, or even to be a psychic representation of a distant thought
or object. Once we have moved into the game of the dream image
being a representation, we have stripped it of its own autonomy
and put it in the service of what it is suppose to represent.
Once we know what the dream means, we leave it behind for the
message it has delivered, we run off it search of the author.
How many friends in waking life would we have if we treated them
the same way? If we saw them only as messengers of someone else,
as messages about ourselves and not having autonomous value in
themselves?
The danger in treating dream images as representations somewhat
reflects the ecological concerns of the world. We see it (natural
objects and processes) as something to exploit for our advantage
without concern for the consequences. I'm not (just) saying we are
polluting our dreamworld with exploitative adventures in
representation just like we exploit the rain forests for wood, but
more that the attitude of representation makes little room for
otherness, for dreams as ends-in-themselves and rather turns them
into means to ends. Any representation is a form of
territorialization, an imposing of a field of constraints. It's a
particular organization of forces upon other forces that
constrains the flow of life into objects and their manipulation.
We are learning that the world rebels when we exploit it, and
rather that we need to tend to the world and cultivate it with a
sense of end-in-itself rather than just means-to-ends. To care for
the world for its own sake. True, there is usually a hidden agenda
in all this, to make the earth last, to conserve it for future
generations of humans and so on. Ulterior motives, personal
interpretations, hidden agendas are all part of the game of life
in both its treat-as-object and treat-as-subject form. But in
treat-as-subject form, they are no longer in a ~central~ position
like dictators and rather more in a swarm which rotates around
inclusive, changing relations.
There is a danger either way. If we let the dream image be
autonomous, if we grant it the right of any sentient being, it
might not have *any* message for us and may not be interested in
us in the least. When we can't enter the field of play with the
decision about what its going to be, what's going to happen and
what it is all going to mean already decided, then the field is
open and nothing may happen. This is always the risk of allowing
something to be what it most essentially is.
Yet representations are a risk we take. Carl Jung worked and
discussed this in terms of dreamwork under the topic of signs vs.
symbols. Signs, he noted, are when we look at something as
directly representing something else, as in the barber's pole
example, or in the red light representing the agreement to stop.
Symbols, on the other hand, were for Jung the best possible
presentation of a yet unknown emergent psychological factor. Or,
taken more from the spiritual canons, the symbol is the concrete
and known manifestation of a spiritual and unknown truth. More
mechanically, the (Jungian) symbol pulls together two or more
aspects of the psyche that just can't normally be understood (or
tolerated) by consciousness. The raging two-headed horse is not a
representation of repressed animal emotions, but ~is~ the
galloping animality in its best attempt to manifest, to be.
That is, these symbols don't represent the two irreconcilables,
but are in fact a primary synthesis of them in action. However,
Jungian symbols don't completely escape from abstraction and
representation. For one thing, teleology is imposed upon them, and
the manifestation of the dream image is seen as driving the ego
towards individuation. This is an imposition on the image. This
creates a kind of theatrical sense that the symbol, living as it
might be, is but an actor upon a stage of a greater play. Hence
the notion of dreaming the dream onward in Jungian psychology.
That is, the dreamer needs to bring the dream into the waking
world to complete the project. Noble and useful as this directive
may be, it is an artificial imposition on the dream image.
As I mentioned previously [see Archetypal Psychology and
Dreamwork, Electric Dreams 10(8)], the post-Jungians have tried to
apply a kind of corrective to Jung and yank that Self archetype
out of the middle of the carousel and place it on the merry go
round with all the other archetypes. The Self still functions in
its capacity to integrate, organize, coordinate
but this is just
seen as part of its game and not something that needs to be in the
center of the universe of archetypes. But one has to have a
poetic heart and ear to continually talk about soul and re-
ensouling and re-enchanting the world. Many would like to free the
dream image from being a representative without importing all the
mythology and Romantic terminology that comes with post-Jungian
dreamwork.
Aren't representations and abstractions part of the world too?
Sure, and once we acknowledge and understand the dangers of
representations, we don't have to give them up but can rejoice in
them. It is similar with thoughts when learning meditation. In
many meditation practices, the point is not the suppression of
thinking and thoughts, but the dis-identification of an aspect of
the meditating self from these thoughts. Once the separation is
achieved, there can be a reunion.
The same for dreamwork. Once we have done enough work subverting
the repressive authority of representationalism, then the
representations can come back and play. The dangers of taking the
dreams *only* as a representation still exist, but we can now
flirt with this danger. The dream images needn't be despotic
representations of one value (This snake is about my reptilian
side of myself), they needn't just follow lines of tribal alliance
and filiation (Your dream means its time to marry and have
children). Rather, they are allowed to speak for themselves, to
act for themselves and we can then begin to play with them, both
as representations and as autonomous and semi-autonomous beings.
This allows us entry into the dream flow of the improverse. This
is an improvisational multiverse, that is imp-like and often
perverse world where everything is not just ego, not eaten up by
"me" (as in dreamwork where one practices saying how this dream
lamp is me, this dream bunny is me, this cane I'm using is me
.).
As mentioned previously, the dream is at play and creates for the
improverse one of its most conspicuous characters in being
playful, in twisting and bending, exaggerating and downplaying, in
simulating other realities and producing its own unique realities.
We might see imagination, dreams, creativity, repetition of
difference, mutational fluidics and other rhizomatic
connectivities as activities that blur the boundaries of the limit
between represented and unrepresented space. Here it is less the
world of despotic representation more an improverse of content and
its expression. Contact is close and expression and content may
change places depending on which forces are resisting, which are
giving expression. Words make this sound a little cold and reduced
to notions of force, but everything is here in the dream flow. All
the petty representations, all the subjects, all the people and
plants and forests and their inhabitants. A potter throws on a
wheel and the forces that inform the potter's hands, the
institutions of art, the ideas in the mind of the potter, the
genes that shaped the hands, all come into collision with the
clay, and all the geological and biological forces that have
entered into the clay and give it expression. But things may
change in a moment. A shape in the form suggests something to the
potter and she stops and begins to cry. The expression being given
the clay now shifts and the potter becomes the content of an
emotional expression suggested by the shape of the clay. Or more
materially, the potter may come across a lump in the clay that
knocks him/her off the seat. Content and its expression shift
constantly.
A dreamer dreams and a multitude of forces give the dream its
expression. We may still say the lamp on the table represents me,
and the light of consciousness I can support, but we will also
know this game of representation is part of larger dance that
always exceeds it.
Richard Wilkerson
August 30, 2003
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Computer Dreams
January 2002 December 2002
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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The Data and Research
The Computer Dream Survey http://www.dreamgate.com/computers
was started in 1999 and we have been collecting dreams about
computers, the Internet and digital objects ever since. Generally
the posts requesting dreams are pretty simple. Here is a sample:
"Are you having dreams about robots, cyborgs, androids, Borgs,
robots or animated machines? Are you having dreams of computers,
programs that take on a life of their own, dream experiences with
keyboards and monitors, printers or wires? How about dreams of the
Internet, surfing, chatting, interacting with others or online
bots?
If so, we would like to have your digital dreams for our research
project examining the shift in culture from man to machine,
organic human to augmented humanoid, analog thinking to digitally
mediated virtual reality."
However, some requests have been worked in with more speculative
and analytic papers, which are listed on the above webpage.
Listed below are the collections from January 1, 2002 through
Decenber 31, 2002.
Note that I am just listing the dreams here with some extra
information contained in the survey, but not all of it. The raw
data is available upon request, and includes information such as
age, sex, political beliefs, how participants spend time off and
on the computer and other information.
- Richard
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Dream Title = Computer hacked + searching internet
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Dream date = This month
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Dreamers name = StormCyko
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I once had a dream that my computer was
being hacked, the screen went fuzzy and I was really suprised that
someone could do that!
Also the other night I dreamed I was searching on the internet for
a university in China that would accept me. It was called Oxford-
something
When I played games online alot more, I would often dream that I
were in the same situations as those games. (mostly life
threatening situations)
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = After the internet searching
dream, I kept telling myself to remember to search the REAL
internet upon awakening, however I was unable to remember the full
name of the university to search for.
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Dream Title = 1 dream out of a million
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Dream date = months ago
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Dreamers name = Luice
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = In one of my dreams i dreamt that god
told me a long story on evolution
and in it he said he had planed for
us to invent computers.In it he said that some computers hade
there own minds. He said it all had to do with this master plan.
Also I had a dream and i saw some Angel in the form of the
computer ask a man if he wanted to go into the computer and live a
fantacy out
The dreams where both within a weeks length and have been the only
dreams Iv had on computers.
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Dream Title = 1 dream out of a million
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Dream date = months ago
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Dream Title = seth green made of robotic parts
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Dream date = soon after developing this love interest
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Dreamers name = molly
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = many people. dancing. crowded. low
ceilings. i am feeling confined and out of place. across the room
i notice seth green (an actor closely resembling a man i've been
longing to be with). i become warm with a rush of new and exciting
feelings. he smiles and crosses through the crowd. he looks at me
smiling, somehow asking me to join him(dancing?). i look into his
mouth and realize that he is made up of robotic parts.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = i am more hesitant to form a
relationship, feeling that the dream was showing me that my
feelings for this man were based on purely physical/chemical
emotions and that i truly know little of his inner composition.
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Other comments = i can't remember ever dreaming of computers
before this. i usually dream of past places/people, mostly water-
themed and taking place out side/vast open spaces. this dream was
confusing particularly because it was so unlike the normal element
s of my dreams
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Dream Title = IMs
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Dream date = few weeks ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = talking to people through IMs
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Dream Title = administering the universe
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Dream date = often
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers country = zimbabwe
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = programming and programming languages
and developing databases of extrem volume behond the human mind
can understand , also dreaming of controling huge space planetary
objects in orbirt which produce very strange sounds.
Dream Title = Programming via Sleep
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Dream date = A few months ago.
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I don't remember a whole lot from it, as
it was several months ago that I had this dream. But, I had been
having trouble with a computer science assignment, I just could
NOT solve the problem with my code. Then all I can really remember
in my dream was that I was at my computer at home programming, and
I got the solution to the problem. Then I woke up and thought
"Hey! That's an excellent idea! Why didn't I think of that
before?" And so when I got to my CS class I typed in what I had
dreamt, and voila! Problem solved!
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = Well, finished my assignment
for me. So I guess it helped me in school, and perhaps I'll always
remember that and think more broadly about any problems in
programming.
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Dream Title = Higher Self Computer
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Dream date = Over the last few months (5/'02 to present)
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Interesting that I should run across
your interest at this time. I have been having computer dreams
lately.
In my dreams, I am usually in some light-colored, misty
climate sitting at a computer keyboard. I am aware that there is
someone else there with me, but, can't see who it is.
I "key" in questons of things happening in my life using the
keyboard, and, pictures of answers to my questions appear on the
colored monitor.
Generally, the person who is with me tells me to look, be
still and remember.
Upon awakening, I find that I sometime during the day will
remember the answers to my questions and I will usually be able to
slove some problem that had been bothering me.
I am 'heavy' into Spirituality and I suppose this might be
an answer to my asking for more direct contact with my Higher
Self. Whatever the case, I find that since I have started having
these dreams, I now have more assurance and self-esteem. I no
longer struggle with problems for days, weeks, or, even years on
end. I simply suggest to myself, upon retiring, that I will find
a solution that evening in my dream state and that I will remember
the answer.
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Dream Title = What the ?
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Dream date = Recurring dream- twice/month
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Dreamers name = Siren
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I've had recurring dreams about people
(men) visiting my web page, and signing my guestbook. I am in a
library type of atmosphere, but there are few books, but many
computers. I have a hard time getting all my messages. I get
excited when I have messages from 'popular' online people. I seem
to have trouble maintaining my site, and keeping up with all my
online friends lives. Every time I visit my site, it's
changed...does this mean I have no life??? (lol)
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Dream Title = binary dream
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Dream date = 1994
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I once had a dream in total binary
numbers about eight years ago. Every image of my dream (which I
vaguely remember) had a binary digit assigned to it and I
understood it in my dream. It was like a language or a digital
translation from an analog state. The image of all the numbers may
be likened to the movie "Matrix" or scenes from the aliens
spaceship on "Independence Day"
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = After the binary dream, "my"
interpretation of reality was altered in a very peculiar way. I
tend to be as precise as possible when conveying a thought or
feeling from my mind or from my heart. I accomplished a record-
breaking $20 million sales goal for this company that I sell my
services to in a three year time frame. I was able to effectuate
my desired outcome from a thought (energy) perspective, similar
unto a crab influencing or controlling the winds and the tides.
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Dream Title = Opening the door
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Dream date = end of april 2002
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = In my dream I was in a dark but warm
room on the second floor of a house on a computer that was next
toa window. It was night. I remember I was playing a game which
was similar to the doom series of games and I had trouble open a
door. I felt like I was actually inside the game and I was trying
to remember how to open the hi tech automatic sliding door. By
trying to remember this I suddenly released I was dreaming. I was
outside the computer now and back in the room in front of the
computer. I stood up and I was very excited because I had not had
a lucid dream for a few months. Then I felt like I was waking up
and I
attemted to stay asleep by spinning around at a million
miles an hour. This did not work because at the time of this dream
I was camping in a tent which was being blown over by gale force
winds.
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Dream Title = Computer Out-of-Control
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Dream date = Each was about a year ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I have had two distinctly different
computer dreams/nightmares, but the most recent one was maybe a
year ago, so details are fuzzy. Also, I chose not to write either
one down because they were so disturbing to me personally.
Both dreams dealt with my inability to control what was going on
on the computer screen. Each dream dealt with a different
computer (my family has two). The first dream began with me
working on the computer (with a Windows platform), somehow
accessing a program that I had no control over. It began as a
game that was reminicent of one I'd played in my early childhood
but I couldn't recall what exactly - it could have been a
fabrication of my mind. At any rate, it appeared like something
of an "acid flashback" - pink, colorful swirls moving around,
finally sucking me inside which was rather disturbing. Anyway,
for the rest of the dream it was me fighting my way in and out of
the computer and its control. I could not get away, I could not
control it. I had a few lucid moments which added to the
complexity of it, but again it controlled me - calling to mind
things from my past and situations I did not want to be up
against. The second dream I had started off in the same way, very
innocently. I was this time typing something on my Macintosh when
suddenly it froze to MY commands, but continued doing it's own
thing with strange and disturbing pictures moving very slowly
across the screen. I woke up, frightened. It doesn't sound very
frightening, I know, but the images of the dreams really were. I
haven't thought about these dreams in awhile, but they still
affect me when I do remember them.
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Other comments = Even though I am only 17, I have been researching
dreams and their effects for many years. I have had an interest
in comparitive religions and the inner workings of the mind and
the sub/unconscious since I was very young (perhaps beginning with
the paradoxes I began to recognize in my Catholic school /
Methodist family upbringing). I think that it is a very
interesting science that has unfortunately become too highly
commercialized in the present to become exceedingly helpful to
most. As I continue to learn I can only hope others will branch
out and explore the many possibilities of the mind and soul as
well. Thank you for the information that you provide to all of us
searching for our own answers!
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Dream Title = Wrongful arrest
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Dream date = 04h00 GMT Saturday 6 July 2002
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Was trying to gain access to a statement
I had made to the police about events of a certain day linked to a
crime under investigation by them. I was under suspicion,
although innocent. Could not retrieve the statement from the
computer, so tried searching for a hard copy, going through desk
drawers etc. Felt very frustrated that my attempts were failing,
and also very fearful that the crime would be 'pinned' on me, as I
had not been truthful about my name to the police. This took
place in a home that in no ways resembled my own, but which I knew
as my home in the dream. There was an office within the home.
I do use a previous surname for computer/e-mail/internet use. The
police regarded this as a sign of guilt. I kept on telling the
police the accusations were ludicrous as there was DNA evidence
that linked the crime to a male, and I am female.
This was a very vivid, emotional dream and woke me. It was so
profound that I could not sleep again for some time afterwards.
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Dream Title = Half-Life
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Dream date = 1 month ago
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Dreamers name = [NoFX]Berkowitz
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = i have had a couple of computer dreams,
one was where i was playing as Gordon Freeman in half-life and
played the whole game through, and one where i watched the matrix
in my sleep, and also have played the
Half-Life mod Counter-Strike Multiplayer in my head
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Dream Title = computer
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Dream date = a week ago
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Dreamers name = BING
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I was in a game and this little person
was going after me and i was like die die......and then at the end
of the game i won.
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Dream Title = False identity
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Dream date = 2-3 months ago (March or April 2002).
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamed I was with a male cohort and
we were in a room where people worked on computers. In the center
of the room was a computer station shaped like a wheel and between
each "spoke" was a computer desk with the "spokes" being high
walls on either side.
My male cohort told me to create a false ID for each of us on one
of the computers and it turned out that the person I used for my
false ID was wanted by the police. I had to convince people that
I was not the person in the ID. My male cohort didn't care that I
was getting in trouble, as long as he was not getting into any
trouble.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = My dream reminded me that in
real life my behavior was sometimes not what I would want people
to really know about me. There are things about being with the
person in the dream that I have done that I don't want associated
with who I am. The dream reminded me that when I am with this
person, I am not always being my true self and I don't believe he
is being his true self. He "gets away" with not being himself
because he doesn't care. It's his idea to be false to the world.
I go along with it and create problems for myself.
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Dream Title = 6-17-02 - DREAM -
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Dream date = 6-17-02
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Dreamers name = dee
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Dreamers Computer Dream = We were in Wisconsin and had just moved
into a new house. Our neighbors were complaining that they didn't
have any furniture in some of their rooms of their houses.
When my Father drove me home from the grocery store, I looked in
the window of our house and I could see a light on inside, but we
didn't have any furniture in the livingroom of our house either.
When we arrived home, the leather seat of the car was so cold, it
hurt to touch it with bare skin, and when I got out of the car,
besides, I was barefoot.
We went in the house by the back door. My Father was ahead of me
and I managed to close the bottom part of the door, but the
mechanical door closer at the top didn't close and was left
gapped open.
I was going to call him back to fix the hinged opener because it
was dangerous to leave the back door open, but I could hear him
arguing with my son Tom and then I could hear him doing some
tiling work in the bathroom, which needed to get done, and I
didn't want to bother him.
My neighbor across the alley had told me that my Father had walked
her home as far as her back gate, but hadn't even escorted her
safely inside her house either. I could see her at a distance,
out the window, with her black and red dress on.
Then my son Tom, who was about 10 years old, came crying to me
that my Father had made him go to school in the morning, just
when he was in the middle of printing out some papers on the
topic of 'trust'. When he came home from school, his computer had
been taken apart and moved.
Since my Father was busy tiling in the bathroom, I decided I'd
have to fix these other little problems myself.
The computer had no case on it. The internal motor was wrapped in
a plastic bag with wires sticking out of it. I didn't see any
monitor or printer. The keyboard was black and I saw on it, a key
on the right side that said, 'Trust'. So I knew if I got the
computer hooked up to the printer, all I'd have to do was press
that button and my son could find out what 'Trust' was all about.
There was another old man there who said he had moved the
computer, put it all together, but he couldn't hook up the phone
lines to it.
I could see all the wires sticking out, so I decided I would hook
up the computer myself, because it was important that my son know
what 'Trust' was all about.
EOD
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Dream Title = Strange Harddrive
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Dream date = some years ago, around 1999 maybe
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Dreamers name = Sarrus
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Once I had a dream of taking apart a
computer ot maybe it was putting it together. I remember there
were a very strange "Harddrive" it was based on tape(!)
technology.
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Dream Title = Alerts
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Dream date = Last night
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Dreamers name = Amber in Florida
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I have a dream about Instant Message
alerts. I hear them in my sleep. I also carry out conversations
with people in a chat room. And when I get up the next morning, I
cannot tell if I had that conversation or whether I
dreampt(spelling?)
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Dream Title = Palace
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Dream date = 2 years ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I used to always have dreams that i was
playing this computer game called - The Palace. (palace.com)
The game - the palacec- u would design clothing in pixels and u
would have to stare at it for hours doing the design...anyway, i
used to always have dreams about designing the perfect outfit or
body for the outfit and a lot of times i was really content with
it, and i would wake up and try to draw the same thing but it
would come out horrible - and in real life id get frustrated. but
mainyl my dreams were just about designing on palace. i have also
had dreams about talking to my ex online...we dont talk anynmore
and i still like him (we brroke up 2 years ago) and sometimes i
have dreams we are having convos like we used to have...and im
extremely happy and have a high like feeling.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = i dont trust people as easy,
and im more confronting now bc i have had fights online - which
makes me stronger in rela life.
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Dream Title = Instant Message
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Dream date = about a month ago
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Dreamers name = XxJadedDovexX
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream about a month ago. It was
jus me chatting online with one of my crushes and when he signed
offline i heard a knock at my back door and it was him...
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Dream Title = Man in Earthquake
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Dream date = Last June
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = (Written as a short narrative)
My friend and I look at our twin laptops and I adjust hers so her
screen is as dark as mine and we watch images I got from the
Internet news and the authoritative bass of the newsreader
describes a man being shot by another man, both men matchstick
tall, not at all clear, but what I actually SEE is a man in a bar,
running, while the bar disappears behind him, falling away while
the whole image shakes and suddenly he changes the direction of
his escape and runs towards the camera while behind him the
building turns to rubble and the folded street becomes visible
through the space where walls and glass had been, the sky replaces
the ceiling and I watch this several times before I write it all
down, knowing that this is a dream and wanting to form the best
words while the images are still sharp, so I can simply recite
them when I o p e n m y .
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Dream Title = Scott at my house
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Dream date = 4-05-2002
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Dreamers name = DreamerGina
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Started off that i was just walking
around the house after i had just got home from school and the dog
barked at me cause she wanted to go outside so i let her out then
got online to see who all was on i seen one of my friends named
Scott who lives somewhere far away was online he messanged me
something but it was blured out so i couldnt read what it said i
said hey why dont you come on down making it sound like he was
going to come down here 15 or so minutes later after waiting for
him to message me back there was a knock at the door i sent a
message to the other preson i was talking to that i would be right
back then i got up and walked over to the door to see who it was
when i opened the door i seen scott standing there he actted like
he was getting ready to kiss me so i didnt know what to do i had a
wired feeling go threw my stomack then jumped back and shut the
door then woke up.
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Dream Title = Music Loop Nightmares
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Dream date = Constantly
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Dreamers name = White Glove Fader
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I make music on the computer, and my
nightmares are mostly computer-based.. It is usually a repeating
problem, like trying to match two loops, and it won't do it. over
and over, awaking in frustration. Usually variations of this. I
consider these type of dreams nightmares, because they are
frustrating, and they always wake me up, also they are hard to put
out of my mind.
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Dream Title = LIGHT
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Dream date = 1995-1996 TIME FRAME
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Dreamers name = BOM*UY00
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = it was probably 6 years ago. I was
standing in front of this large screen watching lights. I noticed
a map of some sort and pressed a red button. Then evrything faded
to white and i woke up. There really were no emotional feelings.
It was more or less "serene". The colors however were very
intense. Especially the white.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = i have a very hard time with
the fact that the whole world is so dependent and so determined on
letting computers run evrything.
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Dream Title = killer computer
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Dream date = last week
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream I was working on my
personal computer at home, which in reality I don't have. The room
was dark and the computer was against the window. I was working
for hours on a project for school or work I don't remember which
and my computer started communicating with me in my head. It
started to argue with me and tell me how to do things. It went
from how to write my paper to how I should be doing things in my
life. It was almost yelling at me. Then it got so intense that it
was literally chasing me down. I was running from my computer. It
was trying to kill me. Maybe this is because I work on a computer
all day at work and my job frustrates me. I always want to yell at
my computer and throw it out the window.
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Dream Title = chatting alarm clock
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Dream date = September - December 2000.
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Dreamers name = Jennifer M.
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I use to chat on the internet alot,
everyday for hours useually during the night untill very early
hours of the morning. I used to give up sleep to chat on the
internet. At this time I was not recording my dreams however I
recall that I was dreaming that I would wake up in my own familiar
room and my digital alarm clock would have text moving along the
display instead of the time. There were keys on top of the clock
and I could talk to people I useually talk to through my alarm
clock, the people would chat back. These were lucid dreams, I
would wake up and wonder why my clock wouldnt work (I couldnt get
any messages)then go back to sleep and use it again. This happened
almost every day for a few months.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = In waking life I knew that I
was having this dream because I was spending too long chatting on
the computer and not getting enough sleep however this did not
make me want to stop chatting it just allowed me to do it in my
sleep too.
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Dream Title = Immune System Database
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Dream date = March 29, 2002
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Dreamers name = Anakatora
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = During a recent sickness I drifted
between wake and sleep. I felt somewhat delirious from a fever.
During my moments of sleep I was setting up a database using
Access. I was designing the database with buttons that would help
me get over my sickness, and keep me from getting sick in the
future.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = Creatively, it gave me a new
perspective on the way our body so intricately is made to protect
itself. I also have been forced to remember my mortality.
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Dream Title = I'm sure I've coded something! - but what?
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Dream date = About 2-3 times / month, sometimes more
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Dreamers name = YouplaJr
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I do not really remember my computer
dreams, they are not really visual but more conceptual... I often
remember, when I wake up, that i was programming something, but
not only as the writer of the code, but as an actor of the code...
It's hard to explain, it's like I was travelling through a program
I'd have coded. I do not remember any bits of the text of the
code, or even which language it was - i'm not sure wether or not
it was an actual programming language.
I do not even remeber what the program was made for.
I wish I could remember these dreams - maybe i'm coding really
smart stuff by night without knowing it ;)
Sometimes, when I wake up after having one of those dreams and am
not fully awake, I keep for 2-3 minutes a computer logic, I
remember once, I sent HTML requests to myself, wich were treated
by a php script...
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = Whenever i have one of those
dreams, i feel the need to code something the same day...
MARCH 2002 ---------------------------------------
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Dream Title = Mydeardiary.com
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Dream date = The end of January 2002
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Dreamers name = Icheb
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I keep an online diary at
mydeardiary.com, a place where we all share our thoughts, news
etc. There is a facility for leaving comments on entries and this
allows easy communication.
A few months ago, I had a dream that mydeardiary.com was an actual
place. It was a club of some kind, and only members were allowed
in. The mydeardiary.com logo was hanging on the wall. The club was
furbished with bright, colourful chairs and sofas. There was a bar
that sold drinks and ice cream and we could get what cwe wanted
free of charge while lounging about talking.
I can remember standing in a corner looked at everything happen.
I was in a really tired, sleepy mood. A friend of mine from
mydeardiary.com was there and he was talking about a new water
cooler that had been installed at his office.
It was very strange and I cannot remember much more about it.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = The dream made me realise
that mydeardiary.com is more than just a mere website. It is a
magnificant place where we can all help each other via our public
diaries.
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Dream Title = You talk!
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Dream date = February 3, 2002
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Dreamers name = Gibble
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Hi All,
I dream about computers. The last one that I had involved my
personal computer. I was in my livingroom building another
computer. It was all in pieces. I needed an extra hand to hold in
a particuliar piece of hardware. I hear the computer speak." Can I
help?" and I look over at the monitor behind me. The monitor cover
is off and red tenticles are coming out of it. It was using the
tenticles to type out the words that it was communicating to me
via the speakers. I was surprised and happy that my reliable
machine could now communicate with me. I stood up and walked over
to the computer table. We started to speak about how long it has
been able to communicate this way. It's response was" for a while
now, but I didn't say anything because I was concerned about
frightening you."
I smiled and reasured the computer, that it was alright. I asked
it then if it understood how to fix the problem. It's reply was
that it already found the solution. I was puzzled and asked how it
knew the answer. The internet is where I harvested the knowledge
replied the computer. Well if you know what you are doing then
lets get this thing working. We built the computer together, me
and my machine. When the computer was complete the dream ended.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = It has shown me how much I do
rely on my computer and how much my perceptions of the beastie has
changed in the past 2 1/2 years when I bought my very first
computer. My initial response was what do I do!!! Fear of messing
it up. Now I build them :D, maintain and trouble shoot. So yes I
have come a long way in how I relate to the computer and my
perceptions. I hadn't realised how liberated I felt till then.
Stranger to friend.
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Dream Title = ACCOUNT TETRIS
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Dream date = ABOUT 6 MOS AGO
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = dreamed i was playing tetris with
account numbers. trying to line them up in little rows and delete
them at work.
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Dream Title = Weired
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Dream date = 1 month
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = It started out me and my friend alex we
were about 23 and we were in a VW beetle with are girlfriends in
the back and we were driving to a drive range to go have fun and
drive golf balls. but while we were driving there we got lost in
this little trail in the woods and we saw this weired kinda native
cheift kinda guy like 200meters away and beside him was a like
1000 feet girzly bear(Dont ask) And he pointed at us and the bear
starting runing at us and his foot steps were causing an huge
kinda earthquake thing and then we finally got home and the bear
crush the house with his foot. When that happened i woke up and my
brother was playing some dumb bear hunting game on my Computer.
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Dream Title = ENTER
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Dream date = Recurring , 6-7 times a month for the past 6 months
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = A blank screen that starts flashing and,
after the third flash a neon green word pops up, the word "ENTER"
flashes really big in neon green on a blank screen that flickers 3
times and then I usually wake up.
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Dream Title = Stage Door Massacre
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Dream date = 1998?
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = In my old job, as a telephonist, working
at a computer terminal; horrible. A dancing, Kali-like woman comes
in the stage door, and kills the doorman. I run and hide in the
toilet, but can hear they mayhem outside. She scratches at the
door, but I seem to be safe for the moment. Lots of yellow, the
dirty peeling paint- The sound of splintering wood and bodies
falling, with cries of agony, finger cymbals tinkling.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = Never really dream of using
the pc-the switchboard one was the closest i can think of.
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Dream Title = Net Crush
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Dream date = This dream first occurred about a week ago, but I
constantly have it now.
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Dreamers name = OutLandish
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I keep having dreams about going to a
chatroom and chatting with a boy I met on the internet and have a
crush on. Sometimes I dream of actually meeting him or seeing his
face on the screen.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I feel more depressed because
of the dream because I can't actually see or touch the boy I love
and probably never will.
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Dream Title = social job placement machine
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Dream date = 02-07-2002
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Dreamers name = zziks
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I created a computer terminal that was
able to find current listings of jobs . all you had to do was walk
up to this machine ( which was in a supermarket near the exit)
place your fingers on the switches and flip your assigned personal
sequence . then this machine ( which looked like a light purple
cash register but wiht a flat screen monitor and red switches)
would display what jobs were availble for you in that area . I
remember it only costing 50 cents to operate and the lady in front
of me taking a long time because she did not know how input her
assigned personal sequence ( this sequence was somthing similar
to a social security number but this was assigned to at your
birth).
I also remember inputing my information and not being happy with
what jobs were displayed
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Dream Title = Hampster Powering Computer
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Dream date = 1997
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Dreamers name = Cavie
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream image of a hampster in a
wheel that was powering the computer. In technical support we had
an ongoing joke that computers were powered by hampsters.
Apparently some novice computer user(s) believed this at some
point. So whenever a computer was irrepairable we said that the
hampster had died. I don't remember feeling any particular way
about the dream image and it didn't seem like it was part of a
larger dream. I am guessing that it was just a visualization of
our common expression.
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Dream Title = Cozy Workstation
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Dream date = Fall 2000
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Dreamers name = Cavie
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = The dream I had is actually about the
workstation itself. It was a pretty eggshell blue and, well,
looked like an egg shell on a pedistal. You sat inside in a
wonderfully comfortable chair and everything you needed was within
reach. I sat in one and the chair was like an upholstered
recliner, but didn't recline. The keyboard, monitor and floppy
drives were right were I could easily reach them, as well as
writing space, files, shelves and such. I really liked it. It made
working at the computer a really nice and comfortable experience.
I think everything inside the workstation (plastic sturdy
eggshell) was a light grey (like most cubicals). I had a cozy
feeling inside it. There was a row of them that had just been
brought in. I also noticed that they took up so much less space
than cubicals and could easily be walked between. I still had a
standard cubical and wondered if I would get one. I guess this
reflected the fact that in my jobs computer people were not
usually considered when changes were going on (getting new
computers or chairs or whatever) and that I just can't seem to get
comfortable in front of my computer or in a cubical.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = Soon thereafter I started
trying to make my workstation a bit more comfortable. I got a foot
rest and put my monitor on a stand. I think I had already gotten
my company to buy me a special chair to stop my neck pain, but
this could have been after the dream.
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Other comments = I was in computer technical support and
information security for 5 years. I was on call here and there and
even had to get up in the middle of the night to log into work to
fix a server on many occasions.
When I used to fix computers on site for a few years I especially
hated doing the work and it was directly working with the hardware
and operating system software that I disliked. It was very
emotionally charged for me, but yet I never dreamed about it. At
least not directly, perhaps I did methophically, but I didn't pay
much attention to my dreams at that time.
Though I have worked closely with computers for 7 years, I have
had very few dreams that were computer related. The only other
ones were about subnet masking networks off the eight bit boundry
while taking a course in it, but I don't remember the details of
those except that they heavily involved math. And it was what I
was thinking about before I fell asleep.
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Dream Title = First Person Shooter
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Dream date = 2001
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I have had dreams about playing
videogames. Usually after long videogame sessions (in fact, a
really long vidoegame session almost garantees a dream with
videogame related content). Videogame dreams can either be
exactly like playing the videogame (I see what I would see playing
a game, but only the screen is visible) Most recently this
happened with the game Counter-Strike, but I remember having Super
Mario dreams when I was younger.
I have also had dreams about 3D-modelling after using a modelling
software package for many hours. Again, the entire dream consists
of the computer screen.
Computer Dreams Changed life query = Usually if I have a computer
related dream, I take it as a message to stop using the computer
for a while.
If a computer game (especially a violence oriented one) is seeping
into my sub concious, it means I am playing it too much.
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Dream Title = computer world
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Dream date = 1/7/02
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Dreamers name = rockergurl43
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = i was sitting at my computer just
talking to people and checking emails, when i got a random instant
message. The instant message was from a guy who said he was 16 and
that he knew me. He said to close my eyes and imagine him in my
house, some how i knew what he looked like. Then suddenly he
appeared and pulled me into the computer and it was like another
world. everything was black but somehow i could see there was
white html code everywhere. suddenly he reached over and hug me
and said... "Lauren..." and then i woke up.
Computer Dreams Changed life query = i was confused for about an
hour after. i couldnt tell if the dream had been real.
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Dream Title = Shuttle Nightmare
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Dream date = 1991
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Dreamers name = David55
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I am in a space capsule--similar to the
shuttle. I am surrounded by light and machinery and I feel
euphoric. Computers figure into this as they are keeping things in
control and making sure we are on course.
My job is to repair a satellite outside the window which I can see
brilliantly.
Suddenly all is gone. I am far away in a room that resembles the
inside of a tin can. No light. No machines. No computes. No
sounds. Just flat metal walls. I am despondent.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I was in a situation that was
out of control in my professional life. I was trying to fix what I
could not fix. I felt trapped because of my lack of power. I
realized that the dream was telling me to face my reality and move
on.
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Dream Title = Novel Success
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Dream date = 12/31/01
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I saw an ad on my web page asking for an
agent for my novel. It was quite tasteful and I didn't feel any
surprise that I had gone that route trying to generate interest.
While still in the same dream, I received two emails from people
wishing me luck and that they were looking forward to reading the
book.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I feel that this dream has
perhaps motivated me to complete that novel.
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Dream Title = Pain in the Ass
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Dream date = 12/24/01
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Dreamers name = Singedflesh
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers marital status = dreamer_single
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Dec 24, 01
THE DREAM:
I was on the internet in my bedroom and i got knocked off and
someone started talking through my computer-they said "Hello" and
I said "yes". And the voice said "who is this?" and i said
"Cassie" And then they said "I have a bill for Beautiful Body
Builders" and I was like "what!?"
and i finally realized it was Rikki. And he said "Cassie, You
need to pay this or they're going to take everything I have"
Being very put out I yelled, "Rikki just bring me the fucking
bill"
And I heard the door bell and this guy who looked to be in his
late 20's with a mullet standing there with the bill and i looked
out the door to see Rikki peering out of his car-a maroon honda
civic with his cell phone.
I took the bill and slammed the door.
BACKGROUND:
Rikki is an old roommate that i was in love with for a while and
it soon turned to disgust when i found out what type of a person
he really is-nuerotic. When i lived with him I joined a Gym
called The Weight Room and a year's membership on my check
card...within a month that i had joined i canceled my check card
due to it getting lost-and i never went back to the gym...so i've
afraid that my credit's jacked up due to not keeping to my
payments.
THE DAY BEFORE:
I canceled a date with this guy that drives me insane...i went to
church and this guy i like was not there. It was a beautiful
service. I went to go and see Lord of the Rings with my
parents...it was an excellent movie.
MY PERSONAL INTERPRETATION:
I think that computers tend to be another form of a
satellite...which typically stands for telepathy between 2
individuals...i think maybe Rikki has or had gotten bills re: my
nonpayments to The Weight Room
this conclusion seems obvious due to the fact that it had nothing
to do with the day before
ADDITIONAL REQUESTED INFORMATION:
setting: my room
emotions: annoyance
colors: colors of the sun-yellow orange red...also...very dark
colors outside...all colors very very close to black
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Dream Title = mysticle horror
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Dream date = earlier this year
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream that I was checking my
hotmail and when i looked at a pic of a girl she started
whispering something to me.I asked her to speak louder and stuck
my ear near the window screen and she stabbed me in the head
continuously till i woke up.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I hardly check my hotmail now
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Dream Title = Flash King
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Dream date = last week?
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Dreamers name = dragon kitty
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = This was the tail end of a long,
complicated dream in which a series of odd circumstances and
coincidences led to a random group of strangers hanging out
together in a stone church with a large parking lot somewhere in
an unnamed small city or suburb. We weren't trapped in the
building, but there was some situation or problem that we were all
jointly facing. There was a certain amount of tension and not-
getting-along within the group that was making it difficult to
figure out what to do to solve it. We were all sitting around a
table in a meeting room that was sort of in the basement of the
church getting, and one guy - who sort of seemed to be angling to
be the leader of the group - was about to start questioning me (I
think) about something that would hopefully lead towards a
solution to our mysterious problem. At that moment, someone looked
out the window to the parking lot and saw someone there whom we
all recognized as a character from some wacky Flash animation or
humorous website. (Thinking about it now, he still seems familiar
but I don't know if he's from any actual website.) He was a young
man of Indian or Pakistani descent, dressed like a king with a
crown except that his robes were brightly colored patchwork. He
may have been carrying some kind of scepter - I can't clearly
remember. He was walking across the parking lot in a most regal
fashion. As soon as we saw him, we knew that he would be able to
help us solve our mysterious problem, and we all leapt up and ran
out of the church to the parking lot to accost him. At that point,
unfortunately, I woke up.
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Dream Title = Secret Message
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Dream date = a week ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I always have dreams about being on aol
instant messanger, and I'm always talking to one of my best
friends, also a person i have had a crush on since i can remember.
I'm always sitting in the dark...like i normally do when I'm on
the computer, but the only difference is in my dream i cant see
anything but the screen, and i read what he types to me on aim.
My feelings are very mixed...i always wake up with nervous, but
yet, excited feelings...and thats how i am in the dream to
sometimes they can also be sad...but unfortionitally i cant
remember what is being said between me and him when i wake up.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = In some ways more than others
it kinda told me to just wait things out and see where they take
me.
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Dream Title = The alien shit
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Dream date = 2 years ago
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Dreamers name = eL_gAñAn
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I just dreamed abut a hole lot of aliens
of some kind saying "we are gonna trash out your fucking
civilization" all i remember is they were green and really
ugly.... they had lots of computers around.. in a really weird
language i may say..
some kinda green screens and weird keywords on them running really
fast, some kinda arabic shit......
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Dream Title = a warning in text
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Dream date = Saturday, March 16th, 2002
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Dreamers name = dt
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream =
Last night my dream was one long chat. Black print on a white
background, it was written in a small, fat font I had to squint at
in my sleep.
The only line I remember was the last sentence that read, "you are
falling into unconsciousness." At that moment I did feel a strong
pull to somewhere else (probably deeper sleep.) It alarmed me, so
I woke up instead.
Today, I'm still feeling the same way. I wonder if a person can
faint while they're dreaming.
Computer Dreams Changed life query =
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Dream date = July 14, 2001
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Dreamers name = dt
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I was watching a dream last night...I'd
been on the computer too long, so it was a computer dream. In it,
I was studying the effect of suggested emotion on how you
interpret a paragraph.
A paragraph was written about an event. A banner would then appear
in color while you were reading flashing a word. In the dream, the
word "anxiety" was flashing in red. I don't even remember what the
paragraph was about. I was so irritated by the banner!
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Dream Title = wrong feet
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Dream date = about a year ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = There was something wrong with my feet
so after awhile my family decided to get it fixed and the only way
that it'd get fix was if I became a robot. Being a robot I would
be incapable of having any real feelings so I was really sad about
it. I cried and cried because I didn't want to leave my father,
but somehow I went through the procedure and I became a robot. I
woke up shortly after that.
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Dream Title = blather
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Dream date = October 2002
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Dreamers name = Zoe
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = This isn't really just one dream...In
many dreams, i find myself following a separate plot, and as I
pass through a room, I'll see a computer and stop to check email
or talk to somone on AIM or MSN.
In one dream, i was in a completely empty blue room, full of
people just wandering around and talking...it was like a buzzing.
I knew somehow that this was the physical version of a website I
write at, blather.newdream.net... All of the colors were drab or
blue...my concentration was on the blue of the moment... I sat
down in the middle of the room, cross legged, and opened up a
laptop that had appeared, without questioning where it had come
from. I took a sip of coffee (something i hate) and went to
blather.newdream.net. The individuals in the room continued
shifting about and talking and then i heard a male (about 18)
yell, "would anyone like to hear a song?" and I said yes...so we
went over to a corner of the room, which was suddenly 40 stories
up, with no wall to block me from falling off the floor. I sat
down again, and the guy began playing a blue guitar and singing
softly to me.
I woke up shortly after.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I met a guy on
blather.newdream.net shortly after the dream, who is a musician
(and 18 years old)...he looks vaguely like the character in the
dream. We are engaged...
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Dream Title = Tickets
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Dream date = last year
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Dreamers name = Dee
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Being on the internet and talking to
someone then being booked onto a flight thru the internet by the
person i was talking to
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Dream Title = Digital Sushi
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Dream date = 2nd week of November 2002
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Dreamers name = Riichie
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I was in a vacation type spot similar to
a bungalow setting in the woods. I recall unpacking as I arrived
and placing my clothing and laptop into a cabinet of some sort.
The face of the cabinet had no doors, so the content was exposed.
After viewing the scenery around the area, I returned to my
quarters and took my laptop out from the cabinet. Something was
very wrong. When I took out my laptop, it wasn't mine. Someone had
switched it. Instead, it was something similar to one of those
expensive organizers. I panicked. People came to see what was
wrong. I remember being surrounded by familiar faces but in
reality, I didn't know any of them. (These people in the dream
must be associated with the tech support and customer relations
people in real life) These people tried to help me locate my
laptop but that's when the nightmare became intense. (as in real
life) In another hut, there seemed to be another open cabinet
revealing the same grayish/silver body of my laptop. I examined it
but it wasn't mine. Turning around I recollect seeing snakes
everywhere. Some in tanks and some roaming free. What was so scary
was the colors of these creatures. Growing up, I raised a
Columbian Red Boa Constrictor. She was beautiful with many earth
tone colors. In the dream, the colors where "unrealistic". 2
weeks later, sitting down at a table in Osaka Japanese restaurant
in Brooklyn... It came to me. The colors of the snakes were
common to the colors on a tray of sushi. The glowing red of Maki.
The smooth green of Wasabi. The pinkish tone of Ginger. Brilliant
yellows and oranges as well. The colors and tones of all of my
familiar Sushi favorites. Needless to say that I woke up in a
sweat that morning without locating my Japanese made laptop in the
dream. I understand the association of this dream/nightmare in
it's entirety. I am amazed. ...But it didnt solve the problem that
I'm having with the manufacturer and my real laptop issues. It's
one thing to make an error but to lose it twice in shipme!
nt and replace it several times because it wasn't repaired
correctly does do a number on my mind
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I'm having trouble falling
asleep. I stay up until I can't keep my eyes open and there I am
again.. but not on Elmstreet.
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Other comments = How can I prevent going into dreamstate? I would
like to "mute" them until this real life computer nightmare that
I'm involved in is resolved!!!!
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Dream Title = e-mail
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Dream date = 11-28-02
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Dreamers name = ~Lily~
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Dreamers sex = female_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I'm on the computer, and next thing I
know, I'm IN the computer! I went through it, like Bullwinkle did,
only this time I'm going to my best friends' house, and I go
through his monitor and out his screen! I woke him up, and we
talked and cudled-I've been in the need for some holding-and we
fell asleep on his bed, cuddling. When we woke up, I went back
through his computer and out mine, and I went and got ready for
school. It was bizarre, but I enjoyed it.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = I was more curious about how
computers worked, and unfortunately found out it is quite
impossible to go through a computer screens. I wasn't too thrilled
when I found that one out.
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Dream Title = Living Computer
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Dream date = About a year ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream where I was inside some
sort of living computer. There were several key objects, floating
inside a large seemingly infinite, gridlike space. These objects
seemed like 3D computer pieces, and were shaped as
representations, sort of like an icon on a desktop. I myself was
floating in space, and was able to access these objects by going
into them, where they proceeded to give me information by taking
me in through a vortex and into a new environment suited to the
particular type of information. I don't remember what the
information from it was, but I have a feeling a lot of it had to
do with the natural world. I woke feeling much refreshed, more
confident, and stronger than normal.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = It made me feel like I had
access to unknown or a hidden kind of information. It was like
visiting a library of knowledge. It made me feel a new lust for
life, and was very invigorating.
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Dream Title = Tron Dreams?
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Dream date = About a month ago.
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Dreamers name = Merthedil
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Some times, I feel as if I'm stuck in a
virtual reality. I'm not talking about normal fantasy dreams, but
I mean the crappy VR programs from the 1980's. I see polygons
everywhere, and I get the distinct feeling of electricity
thrumming throughout the world. I sometimes can even see a grid
underneath me, and sometimes I can even see my Tron-like attire.
It's strange, though -
None of my dreams ever seem like they ever happened, except the
one time I accidentally touched one of the grid lines. I woke up
as if I had been shocked by a tazer.
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Dream Title = clowns in the house
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Dream date = 29 dec 2002 05:24
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Dreamers name = stan
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = DATE : 29 dec 2002 05:24
DREAM : clowns in the house
=( yesterday was a saturday. with the school term over and all my
grades in, i have a whole week off before the next set of classes
start all over again. most of the afternoon i spent digging and
composting a bed to grow morel mushrooms from the spawn i ordered
in the mail. i do not expect a crop for two years. the evening
was spent with mother watching some unimpressive videos, mostly
spy movies. this is the usual doldrums part of the month at
blockbuster. got to bed around 01:30 but was too restless to
read, so i just vegged for half an hour before turning out the
light. i was surprised to get to sleep rather easily this early,
02:00. )=
it is late night and i am still up working on my computer. i
would rather be in bed, sleeping next to my wife, but work has
kept me up all the long hours of the night.
i am preparing a curriculum for digital photography which i hope
to teach in the coming semester. i have been organizing the
details of composition and framing that you look for in taking the
raw shots. the web site to display the data for classroom
instruction is coming along pretty well, but i am getting too
tired to finish much more tonight.
the little you-have-got-mail window pops up on my screen. i
double click it so the SMTP client opens up allowing me to read
the email. uhoh, it is a message from the dean. he will not
approve the funds to run the photoshop lab we need to support the
course. myself and the other two faculty proposing the series of
coursework in digital photography do not have the credentials to
support such course offerings.
damn. as usual, it is not what you know, or how well you have
prepared the material, what counts is what school you paid to get
a degree on file. administrators do not seem to care what is
actually in a curriculum, just what appears on a transcript.
i shut down my computer, angry now that i have wasted night after
night. i get up to walk across the room, feeling like i need to
throw something, break something.
i find a stack of magazines, grab up the first one and hurl it at
a candle stick on a shelf on the wall. the magazine brurrrrrrrs
in the air like startled bird taking flight. it hits the candle,
breaking it in two, but the brass candlestick falls over and rolls
off the shelf with a loud crash on the floor. there are many more
magazines, but i slump down in a folding chair instead of throwing
more. too much noise this late in the night. i hold my head in
my hands but can not cry.
"honey, what was that noise?" susan has come into the room, her
eyes still heavy with sleep. i did not want to wake her.
"oh, i just threw a magazine at the wall." i tell her. "the damn
dean just emailed me that the camera class will not go next term.
all that work has been for nothing." she says nothing but sits on
the floor at my feet and puts her sleepy head in my lap. she has
always been good at offering herself for support in hopeless
situations.
i stroke her hair once or twice, taking what comfort i can from
her presence. looking up, i see that i have left the front door
to the house wide open. the horizon is just brightening up with
the red and orange light of early dawn. the sky is clear and
cloudless.
just then a clown steps up to the open door, pauses to look
inside, then steps right in going into the next room. then a
another clown in full dress whiteface does the same. then
another. then another. it seems like an endless stream of
clowns, each pausing then coming in.
"there are clowns in the house." i say to susan. she looks up to
watch the parade of circus performers filling up the next room.
they do not speak to each, just gesture in mime, but there are so
many of them that the rustling of the costumes makes quite an
undercurrent of muffled noise. it is an odd threatening sound. i
notice that many of them coming in now do not have full makeup or
costume on. just normal business clothes but with bare outlines
of clown face penciled in over their street faces. lines for
enlarged eyes, big noses or extended lips.
the first clown to enter comes up to us. "the door was open. did
you expect us?" she asks in a clear voice. somehow i know her
stage name is 'miss giggles'.
"no." susan shakes her head, still seated on the floor. "stan
was just up working as usual." i feel sorry that i have obviously
neglected her so much. sleeping together is as important a
contact to me as anything i might ever say or do, but my early
morning sleeping pattern does not permit many shared nights
snuggled next to the woman i love.
=( i wake at 04:53 on the clock. i have no plans to teach digital
photography, but i am nearly able to since it is a component of
web page design which i do teach every term the last few years.
my computers never show a you-have-got-mail window while i work.
my email is handled by a separate machine on my LAN, so my work is
never interrupted like it was here. i have no idea what all the
clowns were about. perhaps just emphasizing that my life is a
joke, or perhaps should be. so many of clowns had a mild but
ineffective feel of threat. clowns are rather creepy, especially
when they refuse to talk. thirty years ago i lived with susan
dick for a couple years then lost her. i still miss her and
wonder what she is like today. i suspect her life has been much
happier than mine as she was always a person with a drive to
succeed and i always did just what she asked. even leave her when
she told me to. i am a little surprised that i dreamt of her as
my wife, as we were never married but i had hoped we would be
someday. i must accept that the failure of our relationship was
all me, but she is one thing i wish i had the chance to do all
over again. it was nice to spend a few minutes with her in my
dream. )=
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Dream Title = 37, Mother
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Dream date = 21/12/02
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers sex = male_dreamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I was in my school, but it wasn't my
ordinary school. It had belconies, more people, and was more
industrial. I got a hallpass from my teacher to go wonder the
halls aimlessly. I met up with a boy whom I don't remember, and we
walked around together. I came to the front of the school, which
was very similar to my school, and walked up the stairs that lead
to the 2nd floor, as I was walking down, I seen a boy running down
the stairs dragging a baby stroller behind him. I knew somehow
that this kid had stolen the baby. He then proceded down the
stairs and ran out the door. I was confused and felt kind of
negative vibes in the whole room. I walked up the rest of the
stairs and went to a computer room, I sat down at a computer and
signed into my MSN messenger. I noticed someones name was "37,
mother." I was puzzled to know what it ment, and clicked on it to
see who it was. It was my friend Bobby and I wondered why his name
was "37, mother." I read these words out loud to myself, but it
seemed as though I had screamed them. It made me wake up right
after.
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Computer Dreams Changed life query = it made wonder what "37,
mother" meant. I looked for something that day that would lead me
to the answer but had no luck.
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