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C O N T E N T S
++ Editor's Notes
New Dream Editor, Elizabeth Westlake
++ The Global Dreaming News
Events - Updates - Reviews - More
From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
++ Article: The World Dreams Peace Bridge
as a Long-Term Journaling Project
By Jean Campbell
++ Article: Flying Through Science Fiction and Fantasy
By Linda Lane Magall¢n
++ Article & Research Data: Computer Dreams
Digital Dreaming Series
#9a: DATA : Selected Dream entries from
July 2001 to September 11, 2001
and
#9b The Digital Archetype: Discussions from the C.G.
Jung Bulletin Board.
By Richard Catlett Wilkerson
D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Volume #468 - #502
With Elizabeth Westlake and Harry Bosma
D E A D L I N E :
July 17th deadline for July 2002 submissions
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Editor's Notes
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Welcome to the July 2002 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to
dreams and dreaming online.
If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the
resources you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
With great pleasure I would like to introduce you to the new Dream
Section editor! Please welcome Elizabeth Westlake
writer@mochamail.com who has joined the Electric Dreams staff as
the Dream Editor beginning with this July issue. If you take even
a little peek at the dream section, you will notice that it is has
become magically transformed in Elizabeth's hands. You can now
find cross references on comments, avoid reading duplications, and
generally see that the whole format is quite approachable.
Elizabeth has been working as a dream interpreter for over five
years, both for herself and for others.
" Until recently (with the demise of the Webseed Network) I was
the managing editor of their dream interpretation site,
DreamersHaven.com. I'm currently working on my new site,
DreamersOasis.com. I'm still tweaking the CMS (themes, formats,
etc.) so it doesn't have any actual content in it yet. " EW
If you have dreams you would like added to the Electric Dreams
section on dreams, please don't send those to us directly, but
rather put then in the dream-flow. You can do this by either
subscribing directly dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or
submitting to the form at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple/
Our news directory, Peggy Coats, from dreamtree.com, has gathered
dreaming news from around the world. In the Global Dreaming News
you will find the latest dream and dreamwork events, conferences,
and seminars. Also you will find research and research requests
for subject, updates on your favorite dream websites, book reviews
and more. If you have news items about dreams and dreaming for
Peggy, send them to her at web@dreamtree.com
In this month's Excerpts from the Lucid Dream Exchange, Lucy
Gillis herself gets interviewed! If you are interested in what
leads people to lucid dreaming and the background of a lucid
dreamer, this interview is for you!
Are you interested in World Peace? If so, Jean Campbell may help
you understand how proactive dreaming can be used to being the
global peace process. Since 9-11 Jean has been interested in the
reverberations through the dream world and has been involved in a
variety of projects that will allow us to dream a new world. Join
the World Dream Peace Bridge and read "The World Dreams Peace
Bridge: As a Long-Term Journaling Project"
Linda Land Magall¢n has been observing for some time how fantasy
and sci-fi stories mimic the activities of the flying dreamer. In
"Flying Through Science Fiction and Fantasy" Linda explores the
texts in some detail and shows how to use paperbacks, comic strips
and even children's picture books to incubate flying dreams.
A short time ago I was asked a question about the Computer Dreams
project that I found interesting. How do the archetypes fit in
with computer dreams? You will find some of my thoughts about
this in my article "The Digital Archetype: Discussions from the
C.G. Jung Bulletin Board."
Also included are more dreams from the computer dreams research
project. Most of the survey information has been removed, and if
you are a researcher and need this information, contact me. What I
am presenting here are the raw dreams themselves, with the focus
less on who is having them, than what kinds of content they
contain. As we move into the Digital Age, these dreams make for
fascinating reading. This selection are the dream of the summer
before 9-11. Be sure to look through Computer Dreams
Digital Dreaming Series #9a: DATA : Selected Dream entries from
July 2001 to September 11, 2001
By the way, the Association for the Study of Dreams just ended
their 19th Annual International Conference. You can see the
abstracts as well as the dream inspired art show and dream
telepathy contest winners at
http://www.asdreams.org/2002
The dream inspired Art Exhibit is also online:
http://www.asdreams.org/2002
http://www.asdreams.org/2001
Our cover artist this month is Dale Shearon. Dale is a former
school teacher who currently works as a freelance designer in the
Seattle, WA. area. His background outside of education is art and
photography, two artforms he likes to blend into his work.
The image for this cover consists of multiple copies of three
photographs along with his pet image, a scan of an old fashioned
magnifying glass.
His current project is an interactive CD portfolio for an artist
using Macromedia Flash and Adobe's PhotoShop and Illustrator. Dale
welcomes e-mail comments. His address is dale@speculardesign.com
His web site is www.speculardesign.com
Dale is a solid sleeper who seldom recalls his dreams, but has had
an excellent flight dream.
We don't send the cover with the e-zine, but you can view,
download and print up a copy anytime at:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-covers/
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Our dream-flow Dreams this month come from all around the Net and
have been organized by the software developed by Harry Bosma. Be
sure to look through the dreams and see what on the mind and soul
of dreamers in Cyberspace.
Thanks to all who sent in information for the Dream Resources
pages. There is still time to get your site updated. You can look
through our collected website links at:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/
For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to
stop by one of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
-Richard Wilkerson
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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S
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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
pcoats@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/News/global.htm.
This Month's Features:
NEWS
- Kelly Bulkeley releases several dream articles
- Patricia Garfield's Pajama Party at BookPassage
WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Kristine Mann Library (C.G. Jung)
DREAM CALENDAR for June-July 2002
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N E W S
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>>>> Kelly Bulkeley releases several dream articles
http://www.kellybulkeley.com
Kelly Bulkeley, one of the dream field's most prominent scholars,
now has several of his articles online. There are also book
reviews and other resources. Here is a list of the articles:
(2002). Reflections on the Dream Traditions of Islam. Sleep and
Hypnosis. (pdf)
(2002). Dream Reports for "Dream Content and Political Ideology."
Dreaming 12(2).
(2001). The Strange Politics of Dreaming
(2000). AAR 2001 Presentation: Penelope as Dreamer: The Perils of
Interpretation
(2000) Transforming Dreams: Learning Spiritual Lessons from the
Dreams You Never Forget. Dream Time Magazine 17(1), pp. 6-7.
(1999). The Varieties of Religious Dream Experience. The
Introduction to Visions of the Night (Albany, NY: SUNY)
(1996). From the Yellow Brick Road to Freddy's Razor Claws: Films,
Dreams, and American Society. Santa Clara University. Based on a
Presentation Made at the 1996 Annual Meeting of the American
Academy of Religion.
(1996) Political Dreaming: Dreams of the 1992 Presidential
Election. Chapter 10 from Among All These Dreamers (SUNY Press)
(1995). Snakes. Chapter 2 from: Spiritual Dreaming: A Cross-
Cultural and Historical Journey. New York, NY: Paulist Press.
(1994) Dream-Sharing Groups, Spirituality, and Community.
Presentation made to the Person, Culture and Religion Group at the
Annual Meeting of the
American Academy of Religion, Chicago, Illinois.
>>>> Patricia Garfield's Pajama Party at BookPassage
Patricia Garfield Fri., June 28, 7:00 pm
Join us for a pajama party
Patricia Garfield talks about The Dream Book: A Young Person's
Guide to Understanding Dreams ($9.95). Garfield discusses the
dreams and nightmares most 10 to 14 year-olds experience. She
doesn't just tell readers what their dreams mean, she tells them
how to work with their dreams to lead a better waking life. Most
importantly, she explains what dreams tell readers about
themselves how dreams can provide self-knowledge, help develop
self-confidence, and forge personal identity. Come dressed in your
pj's and make yourself comfy. Snacks provided. Garfield is the
author of Creative Dreaming
The address of Book Passage is 51 Tamal Vista Boulevard, Corte
Madera, CA 94925.
Telephone is: 800-999-7909
Directions at:
http://www.bookpassage.com/newsletter/mayjun02/12.html
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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with
others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the
word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a
public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or
her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes to
the links page to us.
>>>> The Kristine Mann Library of the Analytical Psychology Club
at the C.G. Jung Center of New York
http://www.junglibrary.org/
Focused on the work of Carl Gustav Jung, the Kristine Mann Library
is a resource for Jungian studies. The KML, established in the
1940's by the Analytical Psychology Club of New York, collects and
catalogs books, papers, journals, audiovisuals and other materials
by and about C.G. Jung and others in the field of Jungian
psychology. The KML collection also includes materials in related
areas of study, such as Eastern and Western religions, alchemy,
mythology, symbolism, the arts, anthropology, psychoanalysis and
general psychology.
There is a special article/talk transcription on dreams:
Dreams: A Way of Listening to God?
I. Presentation by Dr. Gerard Condon
2. Response by Dr. Harry Fogarty
and Audience Discussion
Also very special, a database search of abstracts of C. G. Jung's
Collected Works!
>>>> Electric Dreams Articles Archive
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-articles/
Where can you find hundreds or articles on dreams, dreaming and
dreamwork online? The Electric Dreams Articles Archive!
Electric Dreams has offered itself as a forum for free thinking
dreamworkers since 1994 and you can view the whole collection at
the Archive. Search for your favorite author's by name from
Anderson to Zafren, or do a keyword search for topics. Articles,
interviews, columns on topics such as computer dreams, apocalyptic
dreams, dreamwork theory, Jung, Freud, Adler, Garfield, Bulkeley.
Explore lucid dreaming with articles by LaBerge and Gillis,
Gachenbach and Magallon. Look into psi dreaming events and
theory. Find
out the latest ideas in dream sharing online. Be an Electric
Dreamer and stop by the Electric Dreams Articles archive.
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D R E A M C A L E N D A R
June-July 2002
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June 28 in Corte Madera, CA
Patricia Garfield Fri., June 28, 7:00 pm
Book Passage: 51 Tamal Vista Boulevard, Corte Madera, CA 94925.
Telephone is: 800-999-7909
Directions at:
http://www.bookpassage.com/newsletter/mayjun02/12.html
June 29-30 in Santa Fe, NM
"Dreaming Other Lives and Other Worlds", a weekend workshop with
Robert Moss. For more information, Contact Shirley at (505) 982 -
2158 or email lizrdwymon@aol.com
July 6-12 in the Netherlands
Annual Summer Kaplan-Williams Dreamwork Intensive
http://dreamwork2000.com/
Jul 20-21 in Orinda, CA
Class on "Dreaming as a Spiritual Practice," at John F. Kennedy
University with author Kelley Bulkeley. For more information,
visit the website at
http://www.kellybulkeley.com/upcoming_events.htm
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
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In the last issue of the Lucid Dream Exchange I interviewed co-
editor Robert Waggoner, for his regular column "DreamSpeak - An
Interview with a Lucid Dreamer." Turning the tables for the
current issue, Robert has interviewed me. (Nice thing about being
co-editor is that I got to be as wordy as I pleased...so, if
you'll indulge a rambling dreamer, here we go!
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DreamSpeak - An Interview with a Lucid Dreamer
Robert Waggoner interviews LDE co-editor, Lucy Gillis.
Robert: So Lucy, how long have you been lucid dreaming? How did
you begin?
Lucy: I've been remembering lucid dreams for almost 15 years now.
I began after I read one of Jane Robert's Seth books in which
Seth said that you could become conscious in your dream. I was
fascinated by the idea and wondered if it could really be
possible. Then a few months later I did it - spontaneously.
Robert: Tell us about your first lucid dream.
Lucy: It was very brief, and I became lucid only at the very end,
seconds before I woke:
Meeting My Inner Shelf
December 14 1987
A young woman and I are in a university dorm room, getting ready
to go to a lecture on Edgar Cayce, when all of a sudden the
features in the room are gone and the young woman has become
sinister-looking. She is dressed in tight black leather and wears
an elaborate ornamental headpiece. She now stands about two metres
above me, holding a shining sword, raised and ready to strike. I
discover I am now tangled among thick ropes, pinned against a
wall, holding on tightly to keep from dropping. There is no floor
below me, only a dark void. I know that with one slash of her
sword, the ropes will break and I will fall into the nothingness
below. She begins to chant something Satanic; one word over and
over. I look down into the blackness and think "Shelf. I need a
shelf." I release my grip and somehow know that a shelf will
appear below me. It does so instantly. When I land, I look back up
at the woman, with a slow triumphant smile. I know I'm dreaming.
She begins to vanish, like mist, as I open my eyes to purposely
end the dream.
Robert: What did you think when you woke up?
Lucy: To say I was excited is an understatement. I was ecstatic!
I could feel a tremendous rush of excitement, like electricity
coursing through my body. At the time I couldn't adequately
articulate the new sense of freedom, and personal power I felt. It
was almost overwhelming. I felt transformed, awakened. I became
more and more interested in dreams and consciousness studies and
began to read as much as I could on the subjects.
Robert: Did you know any other lucid dreamers at the time?
Lucy: No. Not one. But the Seth books were an incredible comfort
and a great source of information as I explored my dream world. A
few years later I read Stephen LaBerge's "Lucid Dreaming" and I
was hooked even more! I had no idea that there was a "name" for
these conscious dreams and that they had been be scientifically
verified in sleep laboratories in England and the States. Through
the Lucidity Institute I met and corresponded with other lucid
dreamers and learned a tremendous amount from them.
Robert: What were your early goals in lucid dreaming?
Lucy: Well, basically just to get lucid! I participated in many
Lucidity Institute experiments and therefore at the time, my goals
were determined by the instructions in the experiments. As for
personal goals, I did what most other new lucid dreamers do; fly,
walk on water, walk through solid objects, change scenes at will,
do outrageous things that I'd never dream of doing while awake!
(Pardon the pun.)
Robert: I recall reading about your use of singing to engage the
lucid dream - tell us about that. How did that get started?
Lucy: That started ten years ago. Again, I have to refer back to
Jane Roberts and the Seth books, but this time more specifically
to Jane's husband, Rob. In one of the books, I read that when he
first began trying out of body or projection experiments, he once
found himself hovering above his sleeping body but he couldn't
seem to move anywhere. He noticed that he could hear his physical
body snoring and decided to use the sound of his snoring as a way
to propel himself away from his body. I thought that was such a
great idea! The next day I used his technique. Here is part of
that dream:
Skates Flapping/Singing to Fly/Remembering Rob Butt's Technique
July 6 1992
...I hop up into the air trying to fly. I get up only a few
centimetres. For some reason I am afraid to fly too high. I think
of how I'd like to go into outer space but I'm nervous of trying
that just yet. I don't even want to go higher than the buildings.
I begin to sing "Aaah" as I jump. I take a breath, jump, and sing
again. I recall reading yesterday that Robert Butts used the sound
of his snoring to try to propel himself elsewhere while in the
"astral state." So I sing louder, and sure enough, I can fly
higher. I keep this up and soon I am flying down the street.... I
sing "aaah" as loud as I can, but know that my sleeping body is
soundless. I can feel the head and throat area of my sleeping
body; it is motionless. I marvel at this feeling of duality; my
solid sleeping body not moving while my lighter dream throat
vibrates. I can't tell which throat is inside the other. At this
point I know that I can go on with the dream or wake. I choose to
wake so I can write this down immediately.
Now when I say I am moved by a particular piece of music - I
really mean it!! I use singing mostly for flying (I begin to sing
and simultaneously I'll rise higher in the air, and usually my
control of flight becomes better). But mostly I will sing about
what I see or do, maybe to the tune of a popular song, or a tune I
make up. This sometimes helps me to remember the dream when I
wake. I won't always recall the exact words I sung, but the images
and events I sang about are easily remembered. Perhaps someone
versed in brain physiology could explain if this has any
scientific basis. I recall Stephen LaBerge wrote about his
experiments with singing and counting in lucid dreams and the
corresponding brainwave patterns. I was very fascinated by the
results. I'd be interested to hear if there has been any more
research in this area. I hope to do more personal experimentation
with this. If sound can help me to fly, remember my dreams, keep
the dream going, what other things could it do? What about self-
healing? Could singing or producing particular sounds in a lucid
dream stimulate healing, or memory?
Robert: What kind of songs would you sing - rock, pop, show tunes,
Gordon Lightfoot ballads? (Note: Lucy is from Canada.)
Lucy: "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down, of the big
lake they call 'Gitchie Gumee' ......" Whew! Good thing you can't
hear me belting out "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" as I type
this up! I like some Gordon Lightfoot - I admit it! - but I've
never sung any of his songs in my dreams. I grew up in the 70's
listening to hard rock and metal, so I am more likely to sing
songs from that era. Judas Priest, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, etc.
are always great to soar with! Sometimes I will just hum, or sing
notes to the tune of a familiar song. For the requisite Canadian
Content, (Canadian readers will know what I mean!) I have flown,
swooping and soaring, while singing k.d. Lang's "Constant
Craving." And of course the "Hockey Night in Canada" theme.....!!!
Robert: I also recall that in lucid dreams, you felt that you
might be dealing with "probable" events? What do you mean by
"probable events" and what lucid dreams brought that idea up?
This could take a long while to explain, but I'll try to be as
concise as possible. Once again, I have to point back to the Seth
books, for it is in those books that I learned about probable
realities. Jane Robert's friend Sue Watkins had many lucid dreams
of this nature, and it was in reading about her experiences in
Robert's book "Seth, Dreams and Projection of Consciousness" that
I got interested in this topic. (Several chapters were on the
topic of dreams and probable realities.) As a very basic
definition, think of a probable reality as a parallel reality.
Almost identical to this world but with some differences. Now
think of an infinite amount of them. Seth spoke of the probable
field as one in which events are "rehearsed" before they are
materialized in physical reality - if they are chosen to
materialize at all. Those that aren't materialized here, are
actualized in another probable (parallel) reality. Of course this
is not done at an ego awareness level, but by the inner or higher
self. (I'm really generalizing here.)
Seth is not the only one to speak about ideas like these. Several
theories of quantum physics support this too; the idea that for
every decision made the alternate choices happen in other parallel
realities. In other words, you walk down the street and chose to
go right at the intersection. In some other reality, you have gone
left. Any readers out there familiar with the British Comedy "Red
Dwarf"? Ace Rimmer (what a guy!) is a probable version of Arnold
Rimmer. The antics of the "Red Dwarf" crew often demonstrate
beautifully some of the more interesting theories of quantum
physics; time travel, parallel realities, multiple dimensions,
consciousness creating reality, etc. But I digress.....(however,
in another probable reality, I just keep rambling on about "Red
Dwarf" and about how brilliant the writers are, and how the
episode with the dream recorder was so cool....!)
In some lucids I have met probable versions of myself, and
probable versions of family and some friends. It is kind of
difficult to explain how I know that they are probable versions
and not just "regular" dream characters. The dream feels
different. It is just a knowing. Some probable events are quite
easy to spot. For instance, in one of my lucids, I literally say
that "we are re-doing the probability," as we (myself and other
dream characters) make slight alterations to the sequence of
events, to see how simple changes can affect the outcome. In
another instance, I watch as a building blows up, over and over
again, each time I am in a different place, and wonder if I will
survive or lose consciousness "this time."
According to Seth we enter the probable field all the time in
dreams, and that is how some events in our waking world get
"created." We just don't recognize that we do so. But in a lucid
dream, we are much more alert, and therefore, I believe, more
likely to "catch ourselves in the act."
Whether Seth and some of the quantum physicists are correct or
not, makes no difference. These dreams are delightful and a heck
of a lot of fun!!
Robert: Do you think that your interest in physics entered in here
- or anywhere else - in your lucid dreaming?
Lucy: Absolutely. I've always been intrigued with some of the
philosophical implications of quantum physics, particularly those
that deal with parallel universes, or probable universes and how
consciousness creates reality. If these theories are correct, (and
I'd like to think they are!) then I feel that consciousness
studies is the next step in discovering what we, and the
universe(s) are all about. And what better way to study
consciousness than from within the dream state?
And as an aside, astronomy has always intrigued me, and since it
is highly unlikely that I will ever travel to distant worlds or
galaxies, then from a purely aesthetic point of view, lucid
dreaming allows me my flights of fancy (another pun to pardon) and
the opportunity to see what the wonders of the universe may look
like.
Robert: Nowadays, what techniques do you use to become lucid, or
is it most likely to happen naturally?
Lucy: Most likely it will happen spontaneously, but some gentle
suggestions to myself throughout the day and just before sleeping
have proved to be successful too. And it doesn't hurt to reality
check once in a while. I can't count how many dreams in which I've
done a reality check, out of habit, and been shocked and delighted
to discover that I'm dreaming! Trying to read text or clocks is
the usual check for me. Sometimes if there is no text or clock
nearby I'll try poking my fingers through walls - but a lot of the
time it doesn't work, so I'll assume I'm not dreaming. Funny, I
never try poking my fingers into walls when I'm awake, though!
Robert: What is it about lucid dreaming that intrigues you?
Lucy: That you can live in two (or more!) worlds at once.
Consciousness fascinates me. How we can dream in such detail, such
wonderful scenes and activities, never ceases to amaze me. As I
mentioned, I believe that consciousness creates reality. I feel
closer to this process when lucid dreaming. When I am lucid I feel
as though I am about to be let in on some great secret. When I
awaken from a lucid I feel like I have accomplished something very
special. It is a real morale booster that leaves me energized and
in high spirits for the rest of the day.
Robert: Tell us about one of your most personally interesting
lucid dreams?
Lucy: Since you brought up probable dreams, I'll include my
favourite probable dream below, as it appears in my dream journal:
The Probabilities Meeting
May 15 1998
[Order of events may not be correct. I am staying over at a
friend's apartment. I have many false awakenings, but always catch
myself and continue to dream lucidly.] I am in Mark's living
room. I realize that I am dreaming. I go out into the small
hallway by the kitchen. I float and fly up and down the small
hallway, wondering what I should do next. I think about going
outside, but I don't want to go out in the cold morning air. At
some point I find a small round mirror and I look at my image and
the room reflected in it [I did not notice if the reflection was
accurate], I try to get inside the mirror to see what I'll find
there. After a few attempts I give up. Also at some point, a phone
rings. I let the machine take the message, knowing it is from or
about someone or something named Fabula Caprila.
I look back into Mark's living room. I am not surprised to see two
Karen's, a few other me's, and one or two other people. I know
that I am dreaming and am seeing probable versions of people,
myself included [from probable realities]. I am not perturbed,
when some of them pop in and out of existence. I don't let the
"non-linearity" or "non consistency" bother me. I know that that
is just an aspect of the state we are in. Then I am standing on or
above a large round table. There are at least two me's, and two or
more Karen's and multiple other people as well as a couple, a man
and a woman. The man and woman seem to stand out in my perception.
I am at a meeting, a probabilities meeting.
Expertly I quote from a Seth book, about learning to operate in
the probability system. In my mind I "see" the title of the book
as "The Search for Seth," but smiling, I remind myself that in
"my" reality those quotes come from a book titled "Seth Speaks."
Some of the other people here, would have "The Search for Seth" in
their reality.
I notice that the couple are not paying attention to me. They seem
unaware that I'm here, or perhaps more accurately, unaware that
they are here. Glancing around the table I become curious as to
how many people here are aware that they are dreaming. I ask those
who are listening how many of them realise that they are dreaming
right now. I am pleased to see a few hands go up, pleased also to
see a me with her hand up. The couple continue to talk between
themselves, oblivious to their surroundings. I am satisfied that
at least some of us are consciously present, and know that those
who are not, are still learning and participating here on at least
some level of their psyche.
At the "end" of the meeting someone falls. We seem to be in a
conga line, dancing and having fun. [Does the line represent our
going back to a linear-time based system?]
Then it seems I am waking. As I look to my right, [I am sleeping
on a couch] I see that the chair has different upholstery on it.
Immediately I know that I am dreaming. At another time I "wake" to
find yet a different upholstery on the chair, and again I know
that I am dreaming. Once or twice I "awaken" to find no chair, and
again I smile to myself, smug that I am catching myself each time.
Once I "wake" up and everything looks as it should. But I bounce
up off the couch and pick a book off of the bookshelf and try to
read and reread a sentence. I'm thrilled and a bit surprised to
find it distorting, again indicating that I am still dreaming.
Once again, I "wake" and reach down to pick up a book in which to
write out the dream. I don't have my dream journal handy, so I
will write on the back empty pages of a SCI-FI novel I'm reading.
I slide a bit back on the couch, getting more comfortable. I know
it's still a dream, as I have a pencil by the book now, not a pen
as I have in "real" life. Except for the pencil, the room looks
exactly as it does in "waking life."
I am enjoying this. It is like playing a game! Next time I wake
for real, pick up the pen and scribble out the dream in the back
of the novel. [Could the many false awakenings be symbolic of many
probable realities - almost identical to this reality, but with
differences?]
Robert: What advice would you give to new or aspiring lucid
dreamers?
Lucy: Never give up! Always honour your dreams - lucid or
otherwise - and never compare them to someone else's, or rate them
as "poor" or "not good enough." You are unique and no one can have
the dreams that you do - it's impossible. Some dreams might seem
boring, or uneventful, but always remember that with each
experience of lucidity you are expanding your conscious awareness
and are growing with each new dream. As for just getting lucid,
don't try too hard. I found that when I put too much pressure on
myself I had the reverse effect and no lucidity would develop.
Gentle, but firm suggestions to myself that I would be lucid in my
dream, repeated throughout the day (plus some reality checking)
and just before sleeping seemed to work the best for me. Find or
develop whatever technique feels the most comfortable for you and
go for it!
Robert: What plans do you have for the LDE?
Lucy: I have no specific plans at the moment, and am certainly
open to suggestions. But in general, I'd like to see LDE grow and
flourish and reach out to more lucid dreamers. It was my early
contact with lucid dreamers and then with LDE, (when LDE founder,
Ruth Sacksteder was publishing it) that greatly influenced and
shaped my lucid dreaming experiences and ambitions. I learned so
much from others and am very grateful to them all. I'm still
learning from the readers of LDE. Lucid dreamers never cease to
amaze me with their creativity and unique perspectives. I hope
that LDE will continue to be a source of information, guidance,
and entertainment for fellow dream explorers, and a friendly forum
where dreams and opinions can be shared openly.
*******
Lucy Gillis grew up in Nova Scotia beside an ocean-fed lake in
which she spent many summers frolicking, floating, and
daydreaming. She has a Bachelors degree in astrophysics and worked
for several years in the physics laboratories in an agricultural
college. She currently works as an analyst for a scientific
research company in British Columbia. When not at work, Lucy can
be found in pubs with her local lucid dream group (that's where
the best meetings are held!) or seated behind a very rich designer
dessert at Death By Chocolate, hoping that, if she's dreaming, she
won't wake until every last crumb is eaten!
(If you would like to be interviewed or would like to submit an
interview, contact Robert at dreambob@aol.com)
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The World Dreams Peace Bridge
As a Long-Term Journaling Project
By Jean Campbell
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When the first plane struck the World Trade Centers on September
11, 2001, I was at my computer. "Turn on the television," came
the post from a friend. "A plane has just hit the World Trade
Centers." From my vantage point in front of the television I,
like millions of other Americans, watched in horror as yet a
second plane flew into the landmark buildings.
Those of you familiar with my work on dreams know that, for the
past twenty-five years or so, I have studied the so-called
"paranormal" realms of consciousness. My first thought on seeing
the second plane hit was, "This is changing the course of
history." My second thought was, "Oh lordy, there are going to be
a lot of precognitive dreams reported."
Back to the computer I went, broadcasting a message to the ASD
Online Bulletin Board, which I moderate, and to other online dream
groups, that people were welcome to share their dreams and
thoughts about the disaster on the Bulletin Board.
True to my prediction, the first dreams of the hundreds of
9/11 dreams to appear online were the precognitions. So many
dreams, in fact, that I could begin to detect a pattern. A lot of
these dreamers were totally new to the world of dream sharing, and
some of them were scared out of their wits not by the possibility
of further terrorism, but by the implications of the dreams they
had dreamed.
After a few busy days of reassuring dreamers and helping them
to join online forums such as the ASD psidreaming group, I wrote
an article, "Dealing With Precognitive Dreamer Guilt," (available
online at http:dreamtalk/hypermart.net/campbelldreamer_guilt.htm )
which I asked Richard Wilkerson to publish in Electric Dreams
[2001, 8(10)]
In it, I talked about my own 9/11 precognitive dream, a
snippet around 5:30 a.m., in which I stood in the control tower of
an airport, watching as an air traffic controller dealt with what
was obviously an emergency.
The question with my dream, as with any precognitive dream,
was what to do about it. Obviously I had not averted disaster,
nor probably could I have averted disaster if I'd tried. So why
did I have the dream?
I tend to believe that *all* dreams lucid dreams, shared
dreams, precognitive or telepathic dreams have meaning for the
dreamer. In this case, there I was, standing in the control
tower, but only watching as others dealt with the emergency. Why?
In early October, ASD member Victoria Quinton from Australia
posted to the Dreamchatters online group, a dream she'd had of
seeing a single, lighted candle.
My response was a childhood memory of watching Bishop Fulton
J. Sheen stride onto the black and white television screen, while
offstage a chorus sang the theme song of the Christophers, "If
everyone lit just one little candle, what a bright world this
would be."
Following the initial outpouring of precognitive dreams after
9/11, I could sense the growing frustration of the dream
community. We might be able to dream in advance of an event, but
what could we possibly do to avert disaster?
That was when the World Dreams Peace Bridge came to my mind.
There are many dream workers who believe that we not only perceive
but *create* the world through our dreams. What if dreamers were
to become proactive rather than reactive? To take "control", as
my dream said? To light a candle against the darkness?
In October I sent out around one hundred e-mail messages to
dreamers, many of them ASD members but also to family members,
friends, and others, asking if they would like to participate in
an experiment to see if we could dream up some world peace.
Because at the time I was deep into work on the ASD's Online
Guide to International Dream Work, I was blessed with the
friendship of many of ASD's international membership. The
response to the idea of forming a World Dreams Peace bridge was
immediate and overwhelmingly positive. Several people said they
didn't have time for an online forum, but wanted to be kept
informed of other projects. At the same time, the response from
those who wanted to become part a forum to discuss peace dreaming
grew steadily, until it leveled out at around forty dreamers from
all over the world: Australia, the Netherlands, Finland, Sweden,
Mexico, Japan, India, China, Greece, Korea, and of course the
United States.
Right from the beginning, this was an active group,
generating well over 1,000 e-mails per month, delving quickly and
deeply into feelings and dreams. It did not take me long to
realize that we had created something unique to dreaming: an
online, interactive, long-term group dream journal, focused toward
a particular subject, peace, but spreading ripples into all other
areas of dreaming.
Not unexpectedly, some of the members of the fledgling group
had dreams about the formation of a World Dreams Peace Bridge.
"When I mused on your invitation," Jody wrote on October
21st, "I had a dream surprise, surprise. Here it is."
I am talking with some people, dark haired beautiful women, I
think. They ask me to commit to the task of growing, harvesting
and preserving a set of heirloom seeds. I hesitate, thinking of
the task and that I may not be so successful with seeds as with
plants. Big responsibility these rare seeds, and I'm not
completely confident of my skill to do this. Also, that it will
require a long-time commitment and patience.
But in fact I do accept the commitment, and receive a small,
brown envelope with seeds in it. On the package, it says: GOLDEN
ERA. The name of the seeds! But I immediately realize what I
have been given and what my task is: I have been given the seed
forms, the "memes" or images of a "Golden Era," the golden or high
time of culture, and it is my job to perpetuate these seeds, these
memes or life forms.
By accepting the package, I accept the commitment.
"Here is a brief dream which I had the night after the
September 11 attacks," Sandy wrote:
A closeup on the face of Beau Bridges. He looks directly at
me (directly into the camera, if this were a movie) and I know
there is something really important happening. He does something
with his hands. It's out of frame, and so I can't tell what it
is and then he raises his hand up, and he has opened a lipstick
tube. Once again, he looks directly at me, and then deftly
applies the lipstick. He smiles and I know this is really
important.
"Here is what I make of it," she said. 'Beautiful Bridges'
(instead of burning bridges, which is how I was feeling after the
devastation). Here is a really strong man. A man who can take
charge. He has power, but he needs something else. When he
applies the lipstick, I think of it as a metaphor for feminizing
his power, and I reckon that this is exactly what we need in these
times."
Not only was the idea that we could build a beautiful dream
bridge impacting the dreaming minds of the people I actually,
verbally contacted, but it seemed as if it was impacting others as
well.
One morning, as I was taking my usual walk in the park near
my home, I encountered a couple I often saw there. Moving quickly
toward me, the woman, Isobel (who is at best a casual
acquaintance) said, "I dreamed about you last night." By this
time they were standing in front of me, the embarrassed husband
ready to run if necessary. "I don't know if you believe in
dreams," she said.
I encouraged her to tell me the dream. What she said was
that my entire house and yard were being remodeled and renovated.
"And you know that ditch by your house?" she said, referring to an
old rail road right of way. "That was all landscaped too, with a
bridge and these beautiful gardens.
"I probably dreamed for you because I couldn't dream for
myself," she said as they began to walk away.
"Well, next time I'll dream for *you*," I replied.
Turning to face me, walking away backward, Isobel smiled.
"But I don't want no house and garden," she said. "You can send
me on a world tour. I want to go on a world tour singing!"
Of course, the World Dreams Peace Bridge was a place to talk
about post- 9/11 nightmares. After posting a dream, one New York
City resident said, "These dreams are nightmarish when I awaken,
but then I look forward to working through them. I know that this
is the way my brain is processing all of this . I am grateful for
the opportunity to share with you all."
In early November, Jeremy wrote from Korea: "Just now, I lay
down to nap and dreamed I was awake in my study, and suddenly
white dust, like thick snow, started falling from the ceiling. I
got up and went to the living room and saw it floating down there
too. I alerted my wife, who was already aware of it, and she said
we should get some masks. Our child was in the house too, and
suddenly I filled with fear. End of Dream.
"Obviously this was about Anthrax," he went on. "Death could
come so suddenly and soon. All the peace in my heart, that I've
been carrying several days now, was swept away by the
catastrophe."
Members of the online group struggled with the idea of what
it might mean to dream the world into peace. There were some
people who declined to join the group, because they saw dreaming
for peace as an imposition on others. "I would no more want to
focus on creating peace than I would on creating war," one woman
said. "Who am I to decide what other people need?"
I was glad when the members of the World Dreams peace bridge,
at Rita's suggestion, adopted the words from the song, "Let there
be Peace on Earth, and let it begin with me," as their informal
theme song. George put it most succinctly when he wrote: "I have
known that piece for years and have heard it in church. I used to
think of it as meaning peace has to begin with my being peaceful
with others and working to make peace in the world. Now I see it
as even more relevant to our purposes than that.
"Through dreaming, we work through our own opposites or
conflicts. We may speak of this as working toward an integration
of consciousness with the unconscious, or working for peace within
ourselves. These are the opposites which, when resolved, create a
harmony that is seen in mandala dreams. When we resolve conflicts
within ourselves through our dreaming, we are more psychologically
ready to resolve old conflicts of ours with those around us in
waking life. And so we work from our inner harmonizing to our
outer harmonizing to, we hope, being able to contribute to peace
and justice and harmony in other parts of the world."
This having been said, members of the World Dreams Peace
Bridge set about deepening their understanding of themselves and
each other, even resolving conflicts, when they came up in the
group, in the spirit of a deeper opening to the meaning of the
dream. Not that this was easy: "I tell you," one member wrote.
"If my personality had known what I was signing up to with your
Peace bridge, she probably would have taken a vacation instead.:)"
When I invited people to "experiment" with dreaming the world
toward peace, I meant just that. I had no idea what might happen
in this group, nor did I want us to go into it with preconceived
notions. I must admit though that I had some clues.
Years ago, when I directed Poseidia Institute, a
consciousness research organization, we devised a series of dream
experiments called "Dreams to the Tenth Power." Over a period of
years, we asked several groups of people, ten in each group, to
dream together. We would give them specific goals like, "Meet at
a restaurant," and see who dreamed together.
Sometimes the results were astounding. From the reports of
participants, it was obvious that people who had never met in
waking life could accurately dream one another's waking physical
appearance and share many other elements of the dream.
Therefore, I was not too surprised when the synchronicities
began to show up unmistakably on the World Dreams Peace Bridge.
One of the earliest came when Jeremy, in Korea, wrote to a
new member from India, asking her if she happened to know a woman
he'd met in India earlier, someone he'd not heard from in a while.
Not only did the two women know one another; they were also
friends and neighbors.
These were the delights of the sharing, while at the same
time, this same woman, Radhika, wrote from her home in India, near
the border with Pakistan: "Today, and this has been building, I am
tired of this war. The Taliban says that Osama is no longer their
guest. Bush's picture is in our papers every day looking really
important. Apparently the same terrible lords that had
Afghanistan under their control before the Taliban took over are
back in. These men had long tyrannized and destroyed Afghanistan
for their power. So what if there is music in the streets for a
while? What really is the fate of Afghanistan?
"Remembering Rita's outsider dream and feeling outside.
Hmmm."
Beyond the synchronicities it manifested, this group began to
dream together. Symbols were tossed back and forth from one
person's dream to another and, occasionally, people shared the
same dream.
"What I realize I am doing in this group is staying fully in
the flow with my authentic self," one person wrote. " I am not
censoring what my heart chooses to discuss and say. I am staying
open and present to the energy of each person, and the group
energy. I have not done this ever before in my life in an ongoing
group setting."
"I continue to be amazed by the richness of the threads in
our tapestry," wrote another.
The sense of purpose among group members continued to grow,
both in the dream state and in waking.
In early December Sue wrote: "I don't really understand why
the white buffalo are showing up in my dreamtime, but last night I
had another dream."
I had been walking through a museum of sorts, looking at all
the exhibits of animals and I remember a kite exhibit. We went
outside to another area that was kind of like a county fair. All
of a sudden, I see this huge, beautiful white buffalo standing
there, just waiting to be touched! I was so excited I said to my
husband, "Look, it's a buffalo exhibit." And then as we got
closer I could see all sizes of white buffalo. Many were babies .
Though Sue, at the time of her dream, was not aware of the
Native American legend of the white buffalo, many others in the
group were. After recounting a vision from earlier in her life,
Valley said, "I have always felt that the return of the spirit of
the buffalo meant the return of the People. The return of the old
ways that have been gone for much too long."
Many experiences like this continued to happen in the group,
but the most amusing to me was when the group energy seemed to
spill out into the ASD Bulletin Board. All of a sudden, in
January, visitors to the Bulletin Board began to post bridge
dreams, dreams that had many parallels to the dreams I was seeing
posted to the World Dreams Peace Bridge. Some of the Bridge group
members then jumped into the discussion on the Bulletin Board.
"My feeling when I read about these bridge dreams," wrote
Birdy, "is that they were connected to the Internet, because a
while back I had a teaching dream that told me the Internet was a
bridge." She went on to say, "I found this list (the World Dreams
Peace Bridge) through my interest in dreams (but) . It was when I
read Jean's purpose for the list that I became excited. It was
not the word 'peace' that drew me, as much as it was the word
'bridge' and the realization that this was a place I could go
where others believed in their abilities to dream a bridge to
their world."
The apparent impact of the World Dreams Peace Bridge on the
online Bulletin Board was not the only "paranormal" result of
participation in the online group, however. Shortly after joining
the online conversation, Pam wrote: "Also, I wonder if anyone has
noticed an increase in what I can only call psychic activity since
being on the Bridge?" She told about a friend who had incubated a
dream. Without knowing that the incubation was taking place, Pam
said, "I had a dream which referred specifically to the question
which I didn't know she was asking. My dream even included the
first name and the last initial of the person she was asking the
question about."
In January, Bob wrote that he and his wife, Rita, both
members of the Bridge community, had shared a dream, "But this is
the first time we have ever dreamt directly related dreams at the
same time," he said. "So, Jean, is that an oddity or what?" Or
what, I had to reply, since I have seen this sort of mutual
dreaming grow in any dream sharing group with which I've been
involved.
After a particularly amusing interchange in which Juhani
telepathically picked up that the dog represented in one of Jody's
dreams was the famous Belgian cartoon character Tintin, to which
Jody replied that she was not only a Tintin lover, but was
actually of Belgian descent, Juhani wrote. "Wow, what a surprise.
Creepy. Tintin is kind of a Global Action Peace Maker. If we
ever get trouble on the Bridge then comes his dog and saves us."
It was Juhani who suggested I might change my name from Campbell
to Dream-bell because, "You really gong-gong shake up people . :)"
After a discussion in the group about dreams of Monarch
butterflies, Yvonne eloquently summarized what seemed to be
developing as the group's philosophy in a post from Mexico: "We,
as collective souls, travel and 'migrate' to each other's
consciousness. Some faster or deeper, some slower or
superficially .
"Butterflies do that: start as simple 'worms,' but suffer a
metamorphosis until they are ready to share their beauty, touching
each other's souls."
"Oh, golly," Donna wrote one day in April, this world is so
much stranger than I knew." And a day later, "Sometimes I think I
could just live here on the Bridge and ponder everyone's dreams
and all our synchronicities. But that doesn't do too much for my
children."
It might have occurred to me, when I was first creating the
Bridge, that it would have a particular appeal to artists. People
who regularly create new universes of meaning with words or paint
or cameras might not see an insurmountable barrier in the notion
of dreaming ourselves toward peace. Still, I was surprised to
discover the artists who joined the group: several published
authors, one of them winner of the coveted PEN New England award
for fiction; poets; quilt makers; photographers. The World Dreams
home page at Yahoogroups.com soon filled with art of all
kinds which inspired further dreams and more art. Art like these
wonderful tee shirts some members of the World Dreams Peace Bridge
are wearing tonight, with a logo designed by Elizabeth Diaz.
Profits from the sale of these shirts go, in part, to women in
India and Afghanistan who are working to help their people.
One of the most impressive artistic projects to grow out of
the World Dreams Peace Bridge in the first year of its existence
was a dance called "The Crow and the Phoenix," choreographed by
Valley Reed and danced in April at the Cincinnati ASD Regional
meeting.
This event had an innocent beginning when Valley posted a
dream to the World Dreams Peace Bridge group. She had spent the
day making books with her six-year-old daughter, Valley said, and
she thought we might enjoy the dream from which her book had been
made. (It seems that Valley's daughter has an entire library of
hand-crafted dream books.)
The story Valley told was about a dream character, Annabella,
whose best friend was her umbrella. Old Crow takes her to the
underworld, where she almost forgets who she is until she is
rescued by her umbrella and a friendly Phoenix, who helps her
recover.
It wasn't until one group member said this sounded like a
dance that Jody mentioned she had already been in contact with
members of the Cincinnati Ballet Company about the possibility of
presenting a dream dance at the Regional. She wondered if they
could use Valley's dream.
No one in the group knew that Valley was herself a dancer
who, at sixteen, had been tapped for the Dallas Ballet Company; or
that the ensuing weeks, when Valley agreed to choreograph the
dream and then dance the role of Annabella in Cincinnati, would be
a transformative process which had several members of the Bridge
group dancing in their dreams. The video tape of that dance is
available for viewing here at the conference. I'd like to
mention, as an aside, that the moderator of this panel, Cynnie
Pearson, has called the activities of a group, in which images are
passed between dreamers and between waking and dream life,
arabesques. "The Crow and the Phoenix" was an arabesque with
arabesques!
Has the World Dreams Peace Bridge managed yet to bring peace
to the world? Obviously not. Jeremy wrote late in April, "The
dilemma that the conflicts in Palestine and India that you mention
strike my soul as well against violence, and yet victim of it (The
ways of violence on both side have begotten even greater
amounts like two drunkards fighting in a ring, not even
remembering who started it all, blaming the other entirely, one
thousand percent!). At wit's end, I turn back to poetry."
Nonetheless, the members of the Peace Bridge have attempted
to attune themselves to peace. There has been an exchange of news
and ideas from around the world. Sometimes I have heard breaking
world news on the Bridge, given with a personal perspective,
before hearing it from the media: the earthquake in Afghanistan
and the recent assassination of Dutch political leader, Pim
Fortuyn, for example.
And the members of the World Dreams Peace Bridge have
attempted to pay attention to their dreams as if their dreams were
of some consequence in the world.
In December, due to the possibly precognitive dream of one
member of the Bridge, relating to terrorism, the World Dreams
Peace Bridge held a week-long meditation specific to that event.
One of the dilemmas of precognitive dreaming, as I have often
pointed out, is that if it is possible to use dreams not only to
see the future but to, apparently, *change* the future, then it is
possible we may sometimes change a future without knowing it.
We cannot really say that the terrorist act predicted by a
powerful dreamer might *not* have taken place without the
intervention of the Dream Bridge. We simply don't know.
However, what members of the World Dreams group *have* done
is to take seriously dreams which involve possible future
violence, particularly if several people in the group seem to be
having similar dreams.
In the past few weeks, several dreams have been recorded on
the Bridge, talking about possible terrorist attacks in the U.S.
later in the summer. Rather than ignore these dreams, the members
of the World Dreams Peace bridge have agreed to maintain a daily
World Dreams Peace Vigil between the full moon of May and the full
moon in June, a period which includes the Summer Solstice,
traditionally a time of powerful energy. There is no particular
form to this meditation, only that one concentrate on bringing
peace into the world. We invite you to join us.
And we invite you to join us online if you'd like. There are
never too many people to dream of peace. Just send an e-mail to
worlddreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
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Flying Through Science Fiction and Fantasy
2002 Linda Lane Magall¢n
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Crossing the skies of Earth, dipping into an off-planet
atmospheres or piercing the reaches of outer space, humans streak
and bob throughout the annals of fantasy and science fiction.
These are the amazing imaginary voyages through the universe that
we, the readers and viewers, enjoy, while sitting on the side
lines of these vicarious thrills. But where can we experience
first-hand the sensation of soaring and floating like Superman?
Simple. We can go on journeys out of our bodies and into the
depths of our dreams.
I've always found it fascinating how good fantasy and sci-fi
stories mimic the activities of the flying dreamer. Perhaps their
authors were fantastic dreamers themselves? Certainly, stories and
illustrations make great dream inducers. If you read and view with
the intent to inspire flight, you may well discover yourself aloft
as you dream. For this sort of incubation, please put aside your
serious literature and bring out your summer reading material
instead. Paperbacks, comic strips or even children's picture books
can fuel your sleepy-time flights.
Okay, so how do you start? Well, by flipping through a comic book,
you might discover that Captain Marvel derives his ability to fly
from a chant. When Julie Evans and Ed Kellogg told me they use
chants in their lucid dreams, I decided to try one, too. Mine was
much less complicated than their rhymes, though. I stole it from
the old Superman TV series. The chant, "Up, up and away!" got me
off the ground.
Superman style, streaking though the sky in a horizontal position,
is the most popular mode of travel for the flying dreamer. TV,
movies, videos and DVDs often feature this type of flight.
However, it can be quite intimidating for a newbie to go so fast
and so high. Sometimes I'm asked, "Does levitation count as
flying?" Sure, it does! Hey, even Superman hovers like a
helicopter. So, if your first flight is but 1 inch off your own
bed, congratulate yourself. And if you haven't tried that style, I
recommend it. It's great practice in dream control.
In Randall Garrett's *Too Many Magicians,* Master Sean explains
that unlike a static spell, which imposes a condition, levitation
is a kinetic or moving spell requiring concentration, power and
precision. Sean says, "Levitation causes a tremendous psychic
drain; the spell can only be held for a matter of minutes." This
reminds me of trying to hold onto a lucid dream. Or a flight in a
lucid dream. Dream flying may not be a physical effort. But it
sure exercises the mind muscles.
However, I'd like to dis-spell another myth. You don't have to be
lucid to fly. Arthur Dent, of *Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy*
fame, first discovers he can fly while he's visiting another
planet. Non-lucid dreaming is truly another planet! In *Life, The
Universe And Everything* Arthur happens to be racing from an
exploding volcano. Dreamers often fly to escape. The fight-or-
flight reaction to fear is one of the most common reasons for
becoming airborne. Personally, I applaud my non-lucid dream psyche
for having the good sense to get me out of the reach of trouble,
as quickly as possible.
Later, in *So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish,* Arthur flies
with his friend Ms. Fenchurch. Unless you're a sociable dreamer,
like I am, to dream of flying with another is more rare than
flying alone. But it becomes more usual for dreamers who take the
time and effort to work through their nightmares and anxiety
dreams. When you're not so caught up in your own problems, you can
pay attention to fellow flyers.
Zenna Henderson's "Francher kid" is descended from The People,
survivors of a spaceship from another planet which crashed on
Earth. He can dance in the air and make music without instruments.
Dita, a full Earthling, is developing the same sort of talent.
Flying doesn't mean you will always do it with grace. But, with
practice,
it can shift from an escape route to an art form.
In order to get airborne, fantasy fiction often uses magic in the
form of devices. Sparthera, the thief, finds a levitation charm in
"Talisman" by Larry Niven and Dian Girard. Mary Poppins floats
into her story by using the wind and an umbrella. On TV, an amulet
she found in Egypt on an archaeological expedition, and worn in a
headband, gave Andrea Thomas the power of the goddess Isis. With
it, she could summon the "zephyr winds" in order to fly. Comic
Super Heroes like devices, too. Dr. Strange's Cloak of Levitation
allows him to drift through the air. Green Lantern flies from a
power ring. It must be recharged every 24 hours at his namesake,
the green lantern, which was made from extraterrestrial metal.
The Fantastic Four got their super powers when they mutated after
being exposed to cosmic radiation in outer space. Two of the Four
gained flying abilities: the Human Torch and the Invisible Girl.
The Invisible Girl can levitate and render herself invisible by
force of mind. The Human Torch can turn his body into a living
flame. Without such imaginative inspiration, it might not occur to
us that, in dreams, we *don't* have to fly in a body that looks
like its physical counterpart. But even when our dream bodies are
clones of our waking bodies, the conveyors of flight are many.
Dreamers fly in open-air space ships, in cars, in beds, in chairs,
in inner tubes and, yes, in costume.
Many flying comic heroes have appeared on television in cartoon
form, which permits those unique types of flight not possible in
waking life. Computer magic is swiftly catching up. But if
drawings and virtual renderings are not to your taste, there are
literal examples available. The techniques perfected on the
physical stage (notably in the theater production of "Peter Pan")
and on the silver screen (using a moving backdrop) allow you to
empathize with live human beings.
Such a TV series was the *Greatest American Hero,* which ran from
1981-83. Aliens in a UFO gave Ralph Hinkley a super suit to do the
job. Unfortunately, he kept losing the instruction booklet for the
suit and could never quite attain aerodynamic stability. Likewise,
flying in dreams is not always an easy task. And just because you
desire to have a flying dream doesn't mean you always can.
In Ray Bradbury's *Dark Carnival,* Uncle Einar is a member of a
family with psychic powers. When he flies into a high tension
wire, Uncle Einar loses his ability to fly by night. It's not
unusual for a flyer to encounter wires, cords, poles and other
lines in the dream world and, yes, they can hinder flight. Like
the knee-jerk reaction to fear, the perennial potential to fall
and the difficulties in maneuvering aloft, obstructions along your
flight path are Kryptonite Factors of dreamland. Experienced
pilots know that obstacles and stormy weather can ground you.
Temporarily. There's always time to try again tomorrow night.
Fantasy uses magical means for flight or floats the fancy of
emerging human psychic powers. On the other hand, science fiction
tries to provide a grounded explanation of flight based on the
known laws of the physical universe.
Some sci-fi authors speculate that very light humanoids with
enormous wings would be able to fly on a planet with high air
pressure and low gravity. Writer Poul Anderson has carefully
calculated the planetary specifics and anatomical details of such
beings in his novels, *War Of The Wing-Men* and *The People of the
Wind.* "Wings" by Vonda N. Mcintyre features compassionate flying
men. An all-female race of sensual space-faring winged humanoids
are found in Sandi Hall's *Wingwomen of Hera.* You may recall
Flash Gordon's birdmen from movies or TV.
Science fiction also hypothesizes that Terran humans might fly on
such a planet, using metal wings. That's the premise of George R.
R. Martin and Lisa Tuttle's *Windhaven.* With one-sixth Earth's
gravity, wings could also be used on the Moon. In "The Menace From
Earth" fifteen year-old Holly Jones flies in a volcanic bubble,
two miles in diameter, that serves as the air storage tank for
Luna City. Her wings are very similar to that of a metal bird and
her process of flight, very much like that of a hang-glider ride.
Hang-gliders and airplane pilots often report flying dreams,
although, in the dream state, they tend to fly without any
vehicle, like Supergirl. Or the improved version of Wonder Woman.
Beyond planetary pull, gravity is nonexistent and no wings are
necessary. In Spider and Jeanne Robinson's *Stardance,* Shara
dances to music in the zero-gee environment of a space station as
a camera catches her performance. Later Shara and her fellow
stardancers don space suits so they can use the expressive aspects
of dance to communicate with aliens. Finally, they are transferred
into creatures who are able to dance in the infinity of outer
space.
Images of free-fall of outer space may lure us into the future,
but there are quite practical reasons to fly, right now, here on
Earth. In Robert Sheckley's "Carrier" a crippled newspaper boy has
the ability to fly. Bed-ridden and handicapped folks have
testified that flying helps compensate for their immobility. *The
Boy Who Could Fly* is a movie that features an autistic mute. I
know several people with mental problems who, nonetheless, can fly
in their dreams. For everyone, dream flying can be a healthy
vacation from the traumas and blahs of mundane life.
So, why not take a vacation trip in your dreams? In "Mana From
Heaven" by Roger Zelazny, Phoenix, the sorcerer, draws his powers
to fly from a kind of cosmic dust brought to Earth by meteorites.
Fairy dust from Never Land helps Wendy, John and Michael Darling
to fly in the tale of *Peter Pan.* But you can do Peter one
better. Put aside your dusty daily concerns. "Wonderful thoughts"
are all that's needed to induce a flying dream before you go to
sleep.
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Digital Dreaming Series: Article & Research Data:
Computer Dreams
Digital Dreaming Series #9a: DATA : Selected Dream entries from
July 2001 to September 11, 2001
and #9b The Digital Archetype: Discussions from the C.G. Jung
Bulletin Board.
By Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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9a The Data and Research
The Computer Dream Survey http://www.dreamgate.com/computers
was started in 1999 and we have been collecting dreams about
computers, the Internet and digital objects ever since. Generally
the posts requesting dreams are pretty simple. Here is a sample:
"Are you having dreams about robots, cyborgs, androids, Borgs,
robots or animated machines? Are you having dreams of computers,
programs that take on a life of their own, dream experiences with
keyboards and monitors, printers or wires? How about dreams of the
Internet, surfing, chatting, interacting with others or online
bots?
If so, we would like to have your digital dreams for our research
project examining the shift in culture from man to machine,
organic human to augmented humanoid, analog thinking to digitally
mediated virtual reality."
However, some requests have been worked in with more speculative
and analytic papers, which are listed at the end of this article,
and all are available online at the survey site.
Listed below are the collections from July of 2001 through
September 11, 2001. The 9-11 is such a strong psychological cleft
in the collective consciousness, I thought this date would be an
appropriate cut-off, through post 9-11 dreams are also going to be
significant and I will publish those in a later article.
Note that I am just listing the dreams here, without the extra
survey information. The raw data is available upon request, and
includes information such as age, sex, political beliefs, how
participants spend time off and on the computer and other
information, which you can get from looking at the survey.
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamt I was chatting in the chatroom
I usually visit with the boy I usually meet there when I was
suddenly with him in our own p2p world like a grassy plain nestled
near a dark forest. I dream like I'm watching tv. I see myself
disconnected and I was on the computer screen with him. It was so
cool and I wasn't shocked in the least...what does this mean?
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Dream Title = chat
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Dream date = resently, a few nights ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = dreams about computers, explaining
programs and finding tasks difficult. The dreams are frustrating
and I wake up feeling frustrated and upset. The characters in my
dreams that I am explaining computers to, and who I am unable to
explain them to, are the people I work with. Everything is in
colour, but the atmosphere is sticky. The computers are old CTXs
and slow. I am in the computer room I work in and I never see
anybody I socialise with in these dreams, just my colleagues.
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Dream Title = Frustrating Computer Dreams
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Dream date = For three weeks, practically every night
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Dreamers name = Elizabeth
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Talking to aman with my brother present
about which ISP he should use, me being more in tune with the
internet that my older brother.
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Dream Title = Internet Dream
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Dream date = A few days ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I remember sitting at my computer, it
seemed all very normal. For some reason my screensaver came on,
even though I was surfing a Dave Matthews Band site. The
screensaver was the blackhole one on the 60s theme of Win98. At
first it was weird, the screen kept falling into the hole the
screensaver made. Everything was pulled into a certain point that
moved all around the screen. I felt my conscience get sucked into
the blackhole and I remember reorienting myself onstage at a Dave
Matthews concert. All fear aside I took up a guitar onstage. I
remember pure satisfaction and joy when I started to play and get
cheers from the crowd. Those feeliings multiplied a 100 times
over when the whole band came out and we had one huge jam session.
The dream ended as the jam ended. I woke up wide awake and still
felt the satisfaction and joy. I've never had a dream so complete
and vivid.
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Dream Title = Dream Jam
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Dream date = in April 2001
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Dreamers name = Rusty
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream that I was already
sleeping. I woke up and quickly jumped out of bed. I hurried to my
computer, which I always leave on, and checked my email. I got a
letter from someone special and was extremely happy. It's happened
twice and the emails were from different people in each dream.
It's weird but it's really the only computer dream I've ever had.
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Dream Title = e-mail dreams
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Dream date = about a month ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = When i had this dream I was awake , it
was like "the Matrix" last scene the green numbers and black
background was all around me ...it seemed like a drem because was
too real to be true my roommate had the same visions
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Dream Title = The Matrix
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Dream date = 02/20001
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I am a lucid dreamer, and have had
many dreams that I'm in a video game. I consider this like a
computer dream because for all I know I could have been on CD rom
in the game. Usually it's just like a normal life situation with
real people and settings, but my goals are to avoid people chasing
me, getting attacked by large bugs, or just to survive.
One example would be when I drempt I was in this lady's
house. It was a two story home and I was in the bedroom at the
time. It was sort of old fashioned with pale pink coloring. I was
trying to hide from the members of the house, particularly the mom
and trying to get out. I was afraid of being caught, not
necessarily of being there but because large wasps (bigger than my
head buzzing outside the window) and scary plants (which were
leafy, but the leaves were as rigid and sharp as razors) were
outside. I escaped through a window on the second floor to join 3
other players.
We had to avoid being stung, carnivorous plants and things.
Our goal was to reach either the river to take us to freedom and
the next level or to reach the safety of this large rock shrine
surrounded by large stone tiling in a big circle and around that
about a 3 foot stone wall. It was all light brown stone with deep
carvings of things. This was like the escape, if we reached it, it
would end the game. We all reached the river, but they were swept
off struggling in the tides and I got scared and climbed to shore.
More people after me still, the daughters of the house found
me (the one had dark brown hair and in a white flowing night gown
and younger than myself), so I started running to the stone
monument. The hard part was that it turned into a giant sort of
maze, not big around me, but I had to run along a certain path in
order to get it to work and it kept turning and spinning on me. I
was watching myself and her in a third person view at this time.
The girl was as confused as I was and she was very upset with my
progress of course. I finally reached the center and woke up.
I think a lot of these types had to do with playing Maniac
Mansion on Nintendo. The game was fun and challenging but it was
scary at the time too. But now I equated my life with how I felt
playing that game.
Sometimes I dream I'm in my own house and I have to avoid
obstacles for points, or obviously, if I get killed I only have so
many lives, but my goal is to live and get the heck OUT of the
game. So usually I have to run down the street to a certain point,
but it's dificult to get there.
I have a lot of dreams that I'm in a war too, and I have to
survive and get rid of the enemy, but it seems to go in stages,
one I was in a trench and the next I had to clear a train of
enemies so I could ride to another area and that's pretty scary.
That's usually only after I play Delta Force Land Warrior too many
times.
I hate these dreams though, I wake up and they seem so
pointless, like I feel very unocomplished and wish I had a deeper
more meaningful dream. Since the time of these dreams I have been
on my own and going to College for Massage Therapy and so I must
have overcome some of those obstacles my dream suggested.
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Dream Title = My Life Is A Game
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Dream date = I'd say it's been about a year since the last one
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = A dream about computers? Or how about a
dream of future films. Our movies today, how dramatic. Tomorrow
our movies what will they be displaying then? The screen locks the
mind, the thoughts. Technology advancements will show
concentration, complete. A movie is a real dream. Its when you
want to know how its all going to turn out. A movie displays
yourself, all movies display what we want, what we are thinking.
How about a movie from all of us, a pure movie of the mind,
knowledge of One. What is this knowledge, it is always this
anwser. You want to see a movie where everything is true to the
exact point to where we are today, you will see this movie, after
death. After complete where-abouts of yourself. Where are you? Its
in the movie. Who is this 'love'? Its in the movie. Only watch the
movie.
The dream was one only in the future. It was a high tec, HIGH
CONCENTRATED film. Nothing else existed but the truth of our
movie. Our movie was of today, of our complete reality, our
complete love.
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Dream Title = This Was My Dream
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Dream date = 7-30-01
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = i dreamt somebody was emailing very
gross and discusting emails over the internet!! i couldn't stop
them... one day they found out where i lived and murdered me
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Dream Title = scary dream
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Dream date = last night
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = In my dreams, everything is in HTML
code, there are no images except of this code, and there is no
screen, it seems to be floating around me (in this case, "me" is
just my consciousness, I dont actually see myself), on a white
surface like there is nothing else behind it, the code comes in
different colours: blue, light blue, yellow, pink, red, green, but
most of it is dark blue. in my dream I seem to know that what Im
seeing is the design of the page I ve been working on, and Im also
making the code somehow...
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Dream Title = suenhodeagua
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Dream date = all july 2001, alsmot daily
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Dreamers name = angelica
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Dreamers Computer Dream = i was surfing the net and then
everything become orange (color) then a flower bloomed from the
monitor...
and then it wrote u are hacked... hahaha.. ( laughing)
this was really a dream..
but sometimes i really do not understand that it was really
happenning or not!!
for example while chatting, sometimes i read something and
continue on that issue but the day after when i look at the
history part there is nothing about that issue!!!
i really do not understand..
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Dream Title = orange hack
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Dream date = 5 months ago
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Dreamers name = E.angel
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Dreamers Computer Dream = once i was dreaming that i talk on ICQ
with a friend of mine. i definitely remember some of the phrases
which are of no significance, though. just a small talk. this and
that. been there done that. but then suddenly i sat in my bed,
fully awake, and stared into the black monitor of my computer and
thought "how the HELL can i chat on ICQ when my comp is switched
off?" and it happened three or for times in one night. i realized
i dreamed the whole thing about ICQ but hell it was so GODDANM
real!
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Dream Title = talk on ICQ
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Dream date = several times
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Dreamers name = NIque
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamed I was sitting at my computer
and flashes of light like a ligtening bolt went across the screen.
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Dream Title = Lightening
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Dream date = month ago Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:07:39 -0400 (EDT)
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = A while ago when I used to play
counterstrike alot and then go to bed. I had a dream about playing
the computer game. I thought that was pretty funny... At least it
wasnt as if i was in the game and it wasnt scary...
Um.. dont remember any details really...
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Dream Title = Counterstrike
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Dream date = A while ago....
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Dreamers name = BenJamer
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Dreamers Computer Dream = The dream started out and I was at my
old house, and my mom was like "Hank is missing" (hank is my
brother). And she pointed to like, the backyard and it was like
that's where he had been taken or something. So then all of a
sudden he was back home and we were in our house that we live in
now, but he wouldn't tell us where he had been. Then, I saw the
place that Hank and a lot of other kids got taken to. It was very
bright. (i didn't actually GO to the place, i just saw it in my
mind in the dream or something) So then, Hank is missing again and
I somehow knew of this message board where these people hung out
and they were the people who knew about the place where the kids
went. So i logged onto the message board and I started reading
some of the messages to try to find out what was going on and then
I got booted off the message board (haha). So then I was looking
around my desk and i saw light blue floppy disks that had the
label in the bottom !
right hand corner. Everything in my room was normal except for
the floppies and well, getting booted from the message board was
kind of odd, too. Then, after going to the bathroom to pee and
drink some water (in my dream), I woke up. I was very very very
scared when I woke up and I was worried someone was in my room and
going to kill me. :\
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Dream Title = my brother is missing
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Dream date = a couple of days ago Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = my dream was with an older computer.
i had flimed the switch on the moniter and an image of Jesus
appeard
to me. it seems as if he tried to converse with me. he tried to
connect me with a dead loved one i belive. any idea what this
means?
-freaked out
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Dream Title = the man upstairs
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Dream date = two nights ago - Fri, 10 Aug 2001
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream about the future of
mankind. It was very interesting. The dream showed that
computers would completely replace us someday. We would become
obsolete. The computers could do everything we do, even
reproduce. The dream was not disturbing, but it made sense in a
weird way. I woke up wondering if the world would be more
peaceful.Nation
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Dream Title = Nation of Machinnes
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Dream date = about a year ago -2001
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Dreamers name = nonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamed I was using a computer to
change the DNA inside an embryo. I felt very powerful because I
knew how to make the embryo code for a mermaid. In the dream, my
fiance was begging me not to do it.
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Dream Title = Genetic manipulation: mermaid
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Dream date = January 2001
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dream about the type of chat I do:
graphical program called palace. In my real 'online' avatar
collection, I use mermaids. In my dreams, I'm really in this
universe as a mermaid. I change colors and shapes but I always
have a tail. In the dreams, I don't know the ppl I chat with, and
don't recall too clearly what we talk about. I'm usually just
admiring my own form so much that I don't notice the other
"avatars" or people. Everything else seems "normal" except that I
know I am not really a mermaid. In the real chat program,
everything is in 2-D, flat. In the dream, everything is 100%
real, most of all, my actual mermaid body.
I swim around in a swirl of shapes and colors, and am just plain
fascinated with the way I can move. I've been chatting in palace
as a mermaid now for years, and dreaming that it's real seems
required. heheheh
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Dream Title = Digital mermaid
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Dream date = recurring, mostly when I can't really chat.
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream about just waking up in
the middle of the night in my bed, and their right in my face was
a monitor screen with a blue border just hovering just above my
waist. On the screen was white words and symbols that were
shooting down the screen like in the matrix but for some strange
reason I my mind felt as though it knew what it was displaying and
the information was directed right to me.
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Dream Title = Hovering Screen
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Dream date = 9 months ago
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Dreamers name = Poysen
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Dreamers Computer Dream = it was a dream whioch contained a
various amount of boys which i hav fancied in the past
along wiv the guy i'm currently besotted wiv. the guy i currently
fancy i met on a school residential bout a month ago we did kiss
and share beds and i miss him and hav bin thinking about him
sinsce the residential.i havn't been intouch with this guy because
he lives in america and i live in,london.
however
he was in my dream last night and he was in bed with me and the
other guys that i had previously fancied were sitting in the same
hotel room where me and i guy i currently like were in bed
together and they weren't saying or doing anything just sitting
there surrounding me and the guy i was in bed with whilst we were
kissing passionatelt
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Dream Title = romance being watched over
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Dream date = yesterday 16/08/01
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Dreamers name = suki
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Someday I dream about I was in future 25
years ahead in a school. I was pushed to that time or was beeing
sleeping till there.
Simple building, all natural, with wooden chair and desks, but we
used
watches with microprocessor and a polymer pad that simulates a
desktop
and monitor. It rolls in watch as a button when we close it.
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Dream Title = 25 years in future with a watch computer
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Dream date = in beginning of this year maybe february
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Dreamers name = Ayorius
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I once dreamed I was in a game of
StarCraft. I still controlled the game but as a general would his
troops, issuing orders to individuals. We were Protoss, or at
least they were. I'm not certain what I was to them, an entity to
be obeyed unquestionably. We won the battle against the Zerg.
Recalling the scenario, they had the high ground, an excellent
tachtical advantage. They also outnumbered us, three broods to my
one army.
Perhaps it's because my almost omnipotent role, being able to look
at the battle from a far and zoom in on individual troops, that
won us the battle.
I don't recall 'feeling' anything. Just a sence that I must win
and loose as little as possible.
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Dream Title = StarCraft
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Dream date = Midday, a years ago.
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = As a fragment of a larger dream, I
picked up a TV remote control. I noticed a small video screen at
the top, like a calculator. I pushed one of the buttons and the
remote unfolded into a small computer, with arms and sections of
keyboard and screen sliding out from the back. I realized that
some unidentified secret admirer (sort of a stalker, but not
really scary) had come into my apartment and modified the remote
into a computer. I was annoyed that my space had been invaded,
yet excited about the remote/computer, because it was really a
nifty little gadget. Japanese anime-porn began scrolling across
the screen, which I found a little distasteful, since my stalker
had put it there, yet it was titillating, too.
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Dream Title = Remote Control/Computer
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Dream date = about 4 months ago
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Dreamers name = Noel
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Dreamers Computer Dream = Am dreaming that I am trying to go to
sleep but can't until I shut down the computer. It keeps telling
me that the system is busy and can't end task/shut down. I "push
any key" to return and am very very tired and want to go to
sleep....but it never will let me shut it down.
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Dream Title = can't log off
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Dream date = month or so ago...
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Dreamers name = kim
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Dreamers Computer Dream = The dream consisted of me attempting to
program a glass of milk in a reality form. My methods of doing
this were not clear. All I remember pondering about the program
was would the milk return a value or be a void() function. I woke
up screaming and in tears and sweat.
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Dream Title = void or return
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Dream date = around 3 years ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = dear sir
i have a big dream to learn c as a language i don't know any
programing language i would like to learn the c language i tried
to learn it i bought the visual c++ i find explain the language in
english a little hard for me but i tried but i failed can u help
me i need need need very much to learn this programing language
help me please
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Dream Title = c/c++ visual c++
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Dream date = a long time
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Dreamers name = hassan
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I was sucked inside the monitor.I went
into the molecular level and traveled out into space,among the
stars.i couldnt find my star again. I was lost in space,drifting.
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Dream Title = the computer sucks
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Dream date = after eating a peyote button last night
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamt that I was talking to "my
grandfather" on tha computer. And he spoke in native american
language, he spoke in oglala lakota. Which is not the tribe that
we are from, and I dont speak it, but I understood what he was
saying to me though. He told me in lakota to beware of certain
white people.
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Dream Title = lakota
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Dream date = about a month ago
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I recently dreamt that I was swiming
underwater in a very dark,remote lake.I was swiming alone in the
very early hours of the A.M. I kept seeming to notice some sort of
illumination coming from deeper sections of the lake.As I would
swim deeper in the lake to investigate I would absolutely loose my
sense of direction,not knowing if I were going up, or down?I began
to panic thinking I could very possibly drown. In my
hysterical,confused state I began to swim towards a
flourescent,soft light.As i eventually arrived at the light I
discovered that the face of Yoda from STAR WARS on a monitor.Yoda
was trying to explain to me the conection between the ancient
sumarians and aliens????
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Dream Title = union-carbide reunion
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Dream date = 9-4-01 {9:45 A.M.}
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Dreamers name = Phil Van fleet
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Dreamers Computer Dream = "Before I went to sleep I had thoughts
about the waste of time sitting at the computer during graduate
school." I dreamt that I was at my computer working on my
master's thesis and I lost a very important piece of work, chapter
6. This chapter being the synthesis of all my research. I was in
a total panic. I kept searching in different places and it would
not come up. Suddenly my screen turned into this panoramic view
of a mountain and valley. I entered the screen. I was somewhere
in Europe and in another time. I headed toward town. I was on a
dusty dirt road. I knew this place! I became excited, the
learning center was here! I began to run down the street asking
the citizens "Where is the learning center?" I came upon the
learning center, which had giant red-clay pillars out in front.
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Dream Title = Learning Center
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Dream date = 1993
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Dreamers name = DreamTime
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream that I walked in to my
boyfriends office and saw a scripture from the Bible in big bold
flashing letters on his Desk Top. It said 1st Corinthians ch.6.
When I woke up I looked up the scripture and it seemed to be bit
of advise for some issues that were going on at that time in real
life.
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Dream Title = Flashing Message
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Dream date = one month ago.
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Dreamers name = Josie
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I can hear high pitched frequencies,
mind you, I don't dream, haven't for years (they say it's
dangerous, and can make you schizophrenic or some other such
nonsense). I do however sometimes have a sort of daydream when I'm
waking up, my imagination sort of run's away with itself (damn it
for having an affair with itself!!) and I have the closest thing
to a dream as I can get. So, the reason I told you I can hear high
pitched frequencies. One night I'd gone to bed and left my PC on,
well, later that night I woke up, and as I was waking up my little
not a dream occurred. I was in a building and I heard this
piercing sound, but no matter how well I covered my ears I could
still hear it. It was MADDENING, and nothing could make it stop.
The building was grey and dark, and there wasn't another soul for
miles. A few of the windows were broken I think, and I began to
run. The noise was an alarm of some sort, something of a warning.
It had something to do with computers, IN the not a dream.
Something about crashing, and their were computers in an office
that I ran by. I came completely out of it when my feet slipped on
the railing and i fell hard on my behind. Note, I have a VERY
strong imagination! If I imagine falling, or flying, or moving my
body will jerk, violently sometimes. It's even happened during
day-dreams at school. If I imagine say...punching someone (I box),
my arm will jerk. So I woke up and the noise was coming from
computer. I'd never noticed it before since I usually have music
playing when I'm at my PC. I just thought it was interesting. I'd
heard of people dreaming their alarm clock was a phone or
something else, but I didn't think this would happen in something
that wasn't even a dream. ::shrugs:: Perhaps not dreaming does
something to oneself after all.
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Dream Title = The not a dream dream
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Dream date = Um...a long time ago
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Dreamers name = Amberlay
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dream that my consciousness is like an
operating system and applications (like Word, Excel, etc., are
like states of mind or ways of dealing with outer reality. Most
people use Microsoft Word but there are many programs available to
use. They are ways of experiencing the world.
Comments: I have variations of this dream frequently.
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Dream Title = Mind As Operating System
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Dream date = 2001
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Dreamers Computer Dream = I often dream about downloading & saving
files, but in dreams, such things are often difficult...
Not quite nightmares, but close...
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Dream Title = File: Frustration
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Dream date = often
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Dreamers name = Anonymous
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You can participate by posting your computer related dreams at:
http://www.dreamgate.com/computers
References:
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (1999 August). Research Request:
Computer's in Dreams : Pre and Post Internet Perceptions. Electric
Dreams & Part I Pre-Net. Electric Dreams 6(8).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2000 March). Digital Dreams: The
changing (inter)face of dreams in the twenty-first century.
Electric Dreams 7(3).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2000 July). Digital Dreaming Series:
Computer Dreams II : The changing (inter)face of dream texts.
Electric Dreams 7(7).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2000 November). Digital Dreaming
Series: Computer Dreams III :: The Digital Shift in Culture.
Electric Dreams 7(11).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 January). Digital Dreaming
Series: Computer Dreams IV :: Dream Code and Decoded Flows.
Electric Dreams 8(1).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 May). Digital Dreaming Series:
Computer Dreams V :: Emergence of Digital Imagery in Analog
Dreamers. Electric Dreams 8(5).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 June). Digital Dreaming Series:
Computer Dreams VI :: Digital Dreaming: Emergence or Replacement
Imagery? Electric Dreams 8(6).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 August). Digital Dreaming Series:
Digital Dreaming Research Project: Project Goals and
Considerations. Electric Dreams 8(9).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 August). Digital Dreaming Series:
(7b) Digital Dreams from March 2001 through April 2001. Electric
Dreams 8(9).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2002 March). Digital Dreaming Series
(8a): Data: Dreams from April 2001 to June 2001. Electric Dreams
9(4).
Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2002 March). Digital Dreaming Series
(8b): Uses of Computer Dreams as Personal and Cultural Meaning
Maps. Electric Dreams
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# 9b The Digital Archetype: Discussions from the C.G. Jung
Bulletin Board. - Richard Wilkerson
Various myths and gods have been suggested as a way to understand
the archetype that most deeply informs the emerging new paradigms
brought out by the Internet. Robert Bosnak has suggested Mercury,
not only for his relations with commerce and communications, but
also his somewhat adolescent, boy-like qualities, which were the
first large group of people to start surfing the Net.
My general intuition is that the digital archetype is a newcomer,
or a emerging archetype that has shown up here and there in
history, but generally has been lying dormant.
Initially I considered a god like Janus or other two-faced gods,
but this doesn't really get at my intuition of the digital
revolution. Yes, it is dual, but not really on and off, rather
opposed faces. Also, there is for me something beyond the discrete
on-off that has become essential, which I will address in a
moment. Still, the digital vs analog issue needs to be addressed.
The reason binary works so well in computer chips is that we
can assign a value to nothing or off (=0) and assign a value to
something or on (=1).
Theoretically this forces the universe, at the level of the
chip, into discreet rather than continuous parts. True, we can
build up to a point where things become continuous again, but
unlike our natural view of the world, we start now with the
*abstract* and build towards the *concrete*. There is no reason I
can see to theoretically exclude abstractness from archetypal,
(see for example Hillman's discussions of the distance of Apollo)
but I think that it might be better to see abstractness,
mathematics, geometry, grid-thinking as included a little in every
archetype's pantheon. Apollo has his own style of abstractness,
and Hephestos (tools) has his, and even Venus has hers (love of
generality), and so on. In this sense, abstractness is a grid-
thinking, grid-acting part or aspect of all reality, limited as
it is. But when we come to the point where our egos are stripped
silly by the experience of abstract binary networks, its is here
were the abstract becomes unlimited and we come up against the
archetypal core and encounter something which I have yet to hear
anybody name, there is just shaking and trembling.
What shakes out is the new archetype's pantheon of sub-gods,
demons, satyrs, saints and minions which are more visible and
approachable. Here I see generally the unique realm of the
digital *virtual*.
Virtual? Lets make this simple first. You and I decide to play
tic-tac-toe without a board, just in our minds. We can do this by
agreeing on the same protocol, calling the rows 1-3 and the
columns a-c. We play in virtual space. In fact, it could be said
that the virtual exists where any distributed set of rules can
interact. And we don't even have to have all the rules be the
same. The Catholic Church creates an immense virtual reality, a
realm in which people can immerse themselves in a kind of shared-
imaginary. Once seen this way, we can see that the virtual is a
kind of mutual imagination that exists everywhere. With computers,
we simply have a computer mediated virtual reality. But there is
something a little different .
So let's assume for a moment that the digital virtual is this new
archetypes realm. (or the digital virtual realm is a sub-realm of
the god/dess of Virtuality) . Taking a quick tour of this realm I
see:
-- The original and the model coincide like they never have
before. With other gods, the birth of these children give to the
universe, for better or worse, something new. In the virtual
digital world, everything is based on digital discreetness and
therefore duplicatable down to the last byte. Hence this Deity
shakes up and puts fear into capital enterprises that are based on
duplication and its control - as we have seen in the music and
movie industry. There is no difference between child one and child
one million and one.
-- For humans, bless our lost souls, this means we will be
spending more and more time with models of reality rather than
reality itself. This has already happened in fact, as I'm sure
someone will call me on this and say "What do you mean by
reality?" We no longer can agree on this, its lost, distributed
across the globe so that each individual must decide for
him/herself. But the self has itself become divided, seen as
polyvocal, heterogeneous, a swarm of identities, many of which
contradict and conflict with one another. It takes tens of
thousands of dollars per person to get them through analysis and
resuscitate an alignment with the Self. And so each person has
multiple realities as well. Like a fractal bomb, the division of
the self into multiplicities is accelerating towards the speed of
light. Soon speed itself will become a value and the society will
spin into orbit. It already has in many sectors, as we can see in
the global economic restructuring that is laying old empires to
rest and replacing them overnight with free market competition.
No reason to morn the loss of humankind, the Virtual god loves
this. Money is abstract and turns all values from quality to
quantity. Everything is valued according to its market value.
Libido is stripped from the tribe, from the family, from the king,
the pharaoh, the gods, the soul and recoded on the back of
capital. Once abstract, it can flow in digitally mediated
reality.
I don't want to sound like this is a Marxist critique. This
capital stripping of values means I don't have to do what my
father did, and I don't have to believe what my family believes
and I don't have to worship the gods my city worships. My point is
rather that this Virtual archetype, this Digital Deity, will be
gathering up the pieces torn asunder and re-distributing them
across a new horizon, one that is going to look quite different
than the world we were used to. In this sense, Jungians and
dreamworkers are in the right place as the right time to take on
the new tasks of living in virtual reality. It will be more like
a dream world. Object and subject will collapse and everything,
everything, will be interactive. Just as all parts of the dream
may be seen as parts of our Self, or self, all parts of the new
digitally mediated world will be parts of selves as well.
Don't be fooled by watching the news and hearing how the society
can control the Internet. Napster was an archaic attempt that had
one foot in the digital virtual and one foot in the old regime.
As long as there is one foot in the old regime, it can be cut off.
The new paradigm will be more like Gnutella based programs that
exist *only* in cyberspace, doing what they do with little
recourse to any particular computer, any particular person, any
particular group.
And this is a key point of the new archetype, that there is a
distribution, an explosion, an infection, a deployment, an
unchecked reproduction of binary machines that have no functional
connection to biologically based life what-so-ever.
From a Jungian point of view, we might say that not only have
signs won out against the symbolic, but now no longer need the
creatures that gave birth to them. The swarm of signs that were
originally produced by the earth, by the societies that rose up
out of the earth and on the earth, have now reached such a
velocity that they have taken orbit above and beyond the human.
Again, we panic as body, flesh & blood based creatures. This is
almost like a taboo that we cannot look directly at. But then one
could never look directly at the core of an archetype and survive.
But lets assume that the Self does know, and not only ~looks~
directly at the core, but continually ~aligns~ the core of the
Digital Virtual archetype, along with all the others, to itself.
And if so, that our dreams are continually playing with this
digital evolution.
It is interesting to me that computer dreams ~don't~ seem to
follow the statistical pattern of traditional machine dreams.
Content analysis of dreams shows that we typically have problems
with machines in dreams. For all that machines have done in
raising our standard of living, one would think we could be more
grateful. But this isn't so, and we can't get our cars to steer
right, our brakes to work, our phones to connect to the right
people, our light switches to work. It's as if there were some
kind of basic antagonism between what the dream-ego expects and
the real path of the dream when it's about machines. Perhaps as
Jung is often quoted as saying, we just went too far, too fast in
developing our tools for controlling the outer world, and there is
some kind of immense inner compensation that occurs in dreams.
And yet, with computer dreams, one just doesn't see the
incidence of conflict that occurs in machines in general. Oh,
they are there, and they are regular, but far less than other
machines, and far less than machines that work so much better than
computers!
The tendency with computer dreams is to see them as a vehicle for
transport and communication, as a fellow being with an identity,
as a screen through which we might change dimensions.
And so, in terms of the big picture and the archetypal pressures
and forces at work with humans and the digital virtual revolution,
I almost want to align myself with the odd ball UFO groups that
see, (on a symbolic level anyway) that *something* big is about to
happen to mankind. I almost want to take up with the digital
elite that see the whole world, even material world, as code, and
once de-coded, converted into digital format. I almost want to
join with the cyber-enthusiasts that see the economy shifting from
real-estate to virtual-economy.
Almost. I sure thought that the cyber-feast would continue
thought 2004 and I got caught sort when it didn't. Things don't
evolve smoothly, but more in discontinuous leaps, both forward and
back. The time-table now for the full ascendancy of the Digital
Virtual deity is pushed back for me by decades, many centuries,
from where it was for me in 1999.
And as Jung has pointed out, there are some problems with signs,
and therefore with abstractions, and discrete quanta. They tend
to be soulless, to be a bi-directional item that points to
something beyond themselves on one hand, and are motivated by
where they came from on the other. They don't care much about us,
and they have their own destinies. Much like the replicants in the
movie "Blade Runner". The androids looked and acted like humans,
but they admitted that they had other plans; to live in places
humans had no interest or possibility of living, and of creating
things beyond which humans had no interest or possibility of
creating.
It's not at all clear to me where my own alignment is. Stick with
flesh-based, slow brain thinking that is very muddy, or upload
myself into android with a quantum brain or network of virtual
identities and take part in the birth of a new paradigm?
In my dreams, my computers are replacing other objects. And so
too this is occurring in the general populous. Just as cars
replaced horse and buggies statistically in dream imagery, the
digital objects will replace objects with which we have less
attention and time.
What is the dream saying to us through and about these new objects
and the digital revolution? I don't have an answer that deeply
satisfies me yet, either personally or for the large culture.
This is all part of the continuing study of dreams and computers,
but also the continuing struggle to keep the human as an important
model, if not an important concrete reality, in the virtual realm.
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Notes:
1. Re: computer dream statistics: these are just my eyeball view
of the stats and gross over-generalizations - see the raw data for
your own conclusions. See
http://dreamgate.com/dream/computers/about.htm
2. I was just kind of thinking out loud, and so ravished many
people's ideas. I wanted to include here some of these: Carl Jung,
Sigmund Freud, Gilles Deleuze, Felix Guattari, Jean Baudrillard,
Ray Kurzweil, Henry Bergson, Stephen Aizenstat, Jayne Gackenbach,
G. W. Domhoff, Patrica Garfield, Robert Bosnak.
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New Series begins with dream-flow@egroup.com Digest #1 09/29/2000
This issue includes volume #468 - #502
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Message: 468-001
Subject: (unknown)
Hi. My name is [name removed] and my boyfriend wanted me to find
out about a dream he had. He had a dream that I smiled at him and
my teeth were falling out. Most of them were gone and the others
were crumbling out of my mouth. Please write me back and tell me
what this means. Thank you.
[name removed]
comments: 469-001, 469-002
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Message: 468-002
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Message: 468-003
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Message: 468-004
Subject: Sea of waterlike energy
dream_title: Sea of waterlike energy
dream_date: june 151997
dream_text: Looking at a Sea of waterlike energy while on a cliff.
A Aquatic Humanoid stands beside me and tells me to dive in. Once
doven in I see aquatic creatures of past and present, when I sight
a Black Sphere in a cluster of coral. I come to the surface where
he awaited me. I was dry and laid the coallike sphere on the
gagged ground before the Aquarian. The object levitated and burst
into a electic rage all of which absorbed into me and filled me
with a strange power that I could not control yet. Four more did
apear Around me one of fire, wind ,water, and one of white light
all of which I at 22 years of age can't explain to this day.
dream_comments: All I ask is an explination to my dream if at all
possible
comments: 469-003
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Message: 469-001 [468-001]
Subject: Re: (unknown)
I have heard (but I don't remember where) that dreams of teeth
falling out can signify a feeling of loss of control, but this
usually refers to the dreamers own teeth. Don't know if that
helps any, but that's what I know about the subject.
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Message: 469-002 [468-001]
Subject: comment on the teeth dream
I have had some dreams myself that are like the one your boyfriend
had, [name removed], but I always interpreted them as being a
simple fear that is being repressed or maybe just isn't being
confronted the way it should be. I think that maybe the fact that
your teeth fell out in the dream were that maybe your boyfriend is
worried about a personal habit of yours that he's afraid might
have long term effect on you, like biting your lip or something,
and he's afraid to talk to you about it. It could also be
something silly. Maybe that day you ate a lot of candy or drank a
lot of soda and in the back of his head he was a little nervous
but in his conscious mind he didn't think anything of it. Dreams
are very strange, and the set meanings to parts in dreams
sometimes don't apply. It all depends on the dreamer and what
caused the dream.
[name removed]
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Message: 469-003 [468-004]
Subject: Re: Sea of waterlike energy
It is common dream lore that water means life, or new life. The
black sphere could have been something good or bad, because dreams
tend to go "opposites" on you at times, but either way I think it
may have been some kind of premonition, or warning. I myself have
a tendency to dream something and then it happens, but I believe
that when a person premonizes, they're either comforting
themselves or warning themselves. A woman who premonized about a
rather memorable train wreck told me once that the psychic part of
the brain we all have, but whether or not we use it is what makes
a person a psychic. I think your dream meant that at some point in
your life, you're going to have a change, perhaps where you will
be in a position of "power". I'd imagine you'd probably get a
major promotion at work, but then again I don't know you, it could
be something completely different. But what the dream was trying
to tell you was that no matter how good that power feels, don't
let it consume you, otherwise you might abuse it. Abused power can
result in a lot of pain and conflict, and eventually the
abuser
gets what's coming to them. I think your dream was comforting you
because you may have been at a weak point in your life, but at the
same time it was warning you.
[name removed]
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Message: 470-001
Subject: Yosemite Sam and the demon girl
dream_title: Yosemite Sam and the demon girl
dream_date: 1998
dream_text: I am sleeping in my room during a thunderstorm. A girl
breaks through my window with a knife saying I'm going to die. The
thing that really scared me was that she was half-girl half-bloody
skeleton! All of a sudden Yosemite Sam jumps up from under my bed
and scares her away!
dream_comments: I woke up screaming and crying. I was six at the
time and I still remember it.
Comments: 470-003, 472-004
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Message: 470-002
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Message: 470-003 [470-001]
Subject: Re: Yosemite Sam and the demon girl
You know, I dreamed something like that last year. I was in bed in
the dream, thinking I was awake, and I was moaning about a guy I
liked, when this really short dwarf-like man in armor threw a
dagger at me and it hit the board on the bed right above my head.
He was very angry and I think he was yelling something about my
future that might have involved the apocalypse but all I remember
about what he said was that it was something I didn't believe in.
While he was yelling, a robot strongly resembling R2D2 walked up
behind him and was nidding in agreement that he should kill me or
something. Then right behind him came this person who I think was
a man and he resembled a Buddist monk. The monk agreed with the
dwarfman too but it seemed like he was in a way trying to help me,
like he was stalling the dwarf for a while. Then the monk led all
of us into a room full of television security monitors, and the
monitors were showing my previous dream that night. That
particular part that we walked in on was me dancing like an
absolute moron. The Buddist monk guy said, "Look, there's [name
removed] 'shaking it' ". After I sat down to watch whatever was on
these monitors, suddenly I forced to glance at the dwarf, as if it
were against my will, mind control or something. I don't remember
much else about that dream except that on the way to the room with
the monitors, we passed an island party with women in bikinis. I
suddenly felt a strange urge to dance with the women, but when I
did the Buddist monk grabbed my arm and yanked me away so fast it
felt like it were real. It was really weird. I just thought I'd
share that with you because your dream seemed to strike a cord and
remind me of this one in spring 2001.
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Message: 470-004
Subject: roaches
dream_title: roaches
dream_date: 5/17/02
dream_text: I keep dreaming that I put a bunch of seeds in a glass
jar with water. After about a half an hour on my clock in my
dream, the seeds turn into roaches and i put a book over the jar's
top because i'm afraid that all the roaches will come out of the
jar. Finally i put the whole jar in the garbage and throw it away.
dream_comments: What does this mean?
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Message: 470-005
Subject: The Collapse
dream_title: The Collapse
dream_date: October 1998
dream_text: The first part of the dream was more vague as to my
exact activities and the characters. I was at a church meeting
where some of the elders were trying to get me out, it was clear
they wanted to shut me up. I was threatening to the leader, an
evil man. I was trying to expose him for what he was. There was a
young woman also involved helping me. The focus shifted and I
became aware that all of earth's systems both man-made and natural
were collapsing, implosions. The sky had gone dark as night. I
recall looking at the sky and feeling shock and a lump of fear in
my throat as I looked around me and wondered what to do. I felt
awe, fear and panic at the realization of the things around me,
those things that I relied upon were falling apart. I decided to
go to LC & JC's to be with them. [this family in reality live in a
very rural, primative area of the country] I went to a house [not
known in real life], up a long stairway to an apartment and set to
work to quickly gather some things together for the move. The
house was old, the stairway long, steep and narrow as so many of
these old style houses have. I felt a strong urgency to leave,
unsafe and vulnerable. I urged others to join with me to
strengthen, encourage and support each other. There was a man in
this upstairs area who was close to but not yet retired laborer.
He seemed closed off, tired and cynical in his own world. He wore
a muscle shirt over his pop belly along with his tan twill pants
for work. He sat in his recliner, remote control in hand watching
TV. He would not respond to me, or acknowledge a word I said even
though I tried to explain to him what was happening. He remained
untouched by the declaration that all systems were failing. He was
content to watch TV and obviously intended staying where he was. I
left down the stairs, letting him go, respecting his choice. I had
no more time to spend convincing him although I felt pangs of
sadness about him but glad there were others with me. The dream
ended with me closing the door to the man.
dream_comments: A very powerful dream. It struck terror in my
heart and still influences how I think and feel about the world
events.
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Message: 470-006
Subject: plane crash and flooding
dream_title: plane crash and flooding
dream_date: 18/19 May 2002
dream_text: In a small plane and I remember seeing lots of deep
green trees below me. The pilot turns around and says we need to
make an emergancy landing. I look at the trees and think there is
nowhere to land. Just as we are about to crash and i start to
panic a clearing on a beach turns up and we land safety in Hawahi
(i am from southwest england). Next thing I know is I am making a
chicken salad for someone in a beach bar with not much on and my
friends brither walks in. My boss is also there.
FLOODS- Running away from the floods trying to get high ground. My
boyfriends says he knows a short cut but i dont trust him and say
we should stick we the others. My antie is with me and she is
drubk so I feel the need to look after her more.
dream_comments: My dreams are always really vivid. I can also go
back to sleep and go back into the same dream.I am soon going
travelling for a year with my partner. I have been with him for 12
years. I am 25 he is 28.
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Message: 470-007
Subject: senior prom dance
dream_date: 5-20-02
dream_text: I was in my senior prom dance and i went without a
date and all my friends were there with their dates. but i was
happy and i felt pretty. then this boy who i've liked since junior
year comes up to me telling me that he loved me since senior year
started. i told him i liked him since junior year. then he told me
there was a problem that he had a prom date already and i walked
away to tell my friend what happened. then she told me to just
wait. then i turned around and he was there. he told me he left
the other girl for me and that he loved me. but then i walked away
from him.
dream_comments: I'm a junior now.
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Message: 470-008
Subject: Bad dream
dream_title: Bad dream
dream_date: 5-4-2002
dream_text: I was in a school with the girl from Alex Mack adn the
black girl who is on her show and they were detectives, but
suddenly they disappeared. So then I was a detec. and I started
looking through these halls. Then I saw one that had I HAVE SINNED
written all over the wall in blood. Than I though to myself that
I'm in a dream and if I go down that hall I'll get caught in a bad
dream. So I turned around and went to other halls that were
painted green, and was peeling. The halls were lined with doors
that had a bright shining light coming from within so I couldn't
see inside of them. Then I was with my mom at some museum kinda
place and it was christmas. Than I was with my brother [name
removed] fishing on a bridge and I caught a fish and he was
helping my reel it in. I remember feeling as if it was still
christmas. Than I was with this white woman and this black man
cooking ham. Than my mom came to get me and when we got outside we
looked up at the sky and it was pink and gray in one place and it
was lightning. End of Dream.
dream_comments: I have no idea what this means.
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Message: 470-009
Subject: Afraid to Fall
dream_title: Afraid to Fall
dream_date: 05/19/02
dreamer_name: Danielle Marie
dream_text: I dream I am on the second level of a place like the
mall...Everythings fine until it's time to go down the
escaltor...then I freak out. I can't go down, I am scared. I try
to go away from the escaltor but something is holding me to stand
right where I am. The glass barriers surrounding the walkway
aren't there anymore, and the paths are getting narrow. I try to
walk into a store but I can't. Something still won't let me. I
always end up laying down or sitting, I guess I feel like I have
better chances of not falling, then I wake up.
dream_comments: I am not afraid of escaltors in real life. This
has been a dream I have had for years now. Please use the name I
put above...thanks
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Message: 470-010
Subject: Dying in a collapsing building
dream_title: Dying in a collapsing building
dream_date: May 14, 2002
dream_text: I was in, and walking through a large heavily
structured white building with lots of architecture. Someone was
next to me but I couldn't see their face. I noticed that one of
the beams that support a wall was coming loose and someone else
touched it and pulled at it. The entire building became weak and
began a soft, low rumble - it was in the stage of total collapse.
I looked at the ceiling which was huge, white and rounded, and
shifting because of the weight of the struture becoming weak. We
ran down stairs to try to escape the building. My heart yearned
out for my husband and my daughter which were not with me and I
didn't know where they were. I knew I would never see them again
as I waited impending death in moments to come. Parts of it were
already crumbling down. We got to the bottom level and stood in
the center of the room realizing that there was no longer any hope
for escape - death was inevidable. The person next to me got on
the floor on their knees with their back to the cieling, I did the
same thing for less impact when the heavy white ceiling would fall
on me. I anticipated if I would feel any pain while the heavy
ceiling came down on me. In my last few seconds of life I cried
out in a loud voice in my mind "[name removed] I love you", "[name
removed] I love you", God please receive me and forgive me. There
were all kinds of low rumbling sounds heard from the building's
beginning of final collapse. In my last few seconds I wondered if
I would feel the sudden impact of the weight of the building
crushing the life out of me or if it would be so instantaneous
that I would not feel a thing? Then there was an eary silence, and
unkowing. I asked the person next to me "are we dead"? They said
yes. I got up with a feeling of "it's over - my life as I knew it
is over - it's all gone - everyone I love and that was a part of
me is gone". I had a feeling of cold emptyness inside and a
feeling of abandonment, and a question, what do I do now?
dream_comments: I welcome any insight. I think I have figured out
parts to this dream but I need more information to complete it.
Thanks!
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Message: 470-011
Subject: Constantly searching
dream_title: Constantly searching
dream_date: often over past few years
dream_text: I've had this dream over and over again.... the only
thing that changes is the building i'm in.... I'm in a large
building, could be a college or multi story office building... I
keep running searching for something... i do not know what i'm
looking for but my pace takes me through all sorts of hallways,
doorways, cubbie holes, stairways going up and down... when there
is an elevator it's the really old type with the sliding mesh
door... but i never find what i'm looking for... there are others
in the dream - i don't really know them but sense them to be
friendly... sometimes i run outside to the exterior of the
building but re-enter only to find myself in another maze.I do not
find myself to be afraid or even out of breath from my searches...
just lost.
dream_comments: I've had this or like dreams, on and off, for the
past 3 to 4 years... i've never been able to figure out what it
meant.
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Message: 472-001
Subject: The Frame
dream_title: The Frame
dream_date: 1989 - present (2002)
dreamer_name: Vox Angelis
dream_text:
[1989] - I am standing in almost total damp darkness in either a
stadium sized room or outside. there are no sounds. before me
theres an old victorian picture frame barely visible. it is about
7 feet tall and its top is tilted away from me. i cant see what is
beyond the frame but whatever it is it wants me to go through. i
dont even know if there is any ''ground'' on the other side.
[1993] - this is my fifth visit to the ''frame'' and each time its
becoming more vivid. attention to detail is an understatement as i
have now become aware that im dreaming the moment i see the frame.
the ground beneath me has tipped toward the frame like a ''gravity
wagon'' and although before i could stop myself from sliding
through the frame by grabbing its left side, the frame has become
too wide. it is clearly a gold flaked old elegant frame that is
chipped all over. i used to be able to wake myself from the dream
the moment i saw the frame, but its getting harder and harder to
wake.
[2001] - the frame has adapted quite well to my balking its
calling. the absence of the bottom of the frame now is only making
an easier task for the invisible formless hands to ''pull
through'' me to get me to enter the
frame. i keep thinking while i fight that this is only a dream and
i should go through the damn frame so i can end this nightmare,
but the terror i encounter is paralyzing me now from thought based
action. i now am scurrying for my life AWAY from the frame while i
fight to wake up. my fear is at the same level as a perpetual
''shock value'' of the monsters that make you jump at the theater.
imagine feeling that moment of psychotic shock for an ENTIRE dream
you fight to control.
dream_comments: people keep telling me that its a tough decision
in the waking world that i must make, and by going through the
frame somehow birds will sing and i'll find ''the meaning of [my]
life.'' i even tell myself that in my dream every time...'here i
go. im going through it now... thats what im supposed to do...
AAAAAAAAA'' and i still won't go through.
feel free to share my name and my email: vox2vox@msn.com
comments: 472-003, 476-002
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Message: 472-002
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Message: 472-003 [472-001]
Subject: Re: The Frame
I think that what's beyond that frame is a memory or unwanted
feeling that you have buried so far into your mind that it takes a
dream like that to make you face it. You just need to trust
yourself and know that if it's been haunting you for this long,
obviously it has to be brought to light, no matter how scary or
painful it might be. Just know that once you see what it is you'll
be able to wake up and come to terms with it on your own turf:
Reality.
[name removed]
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Message: 472-004 [470-001]
Subject: Re: Yosemite Sam and the demon girl
This dream reminded me of a dream I had when I was about 4 where a
monster (being 4 it was naturally a big furry muppetty one), came
up to me while I was in bed and told me he was going to eat me. I
defiantly told him he shouldn't eat me. He looked really shocked
and then got sucked into the light globe that hung from my bedroom
ceiling. Now that was only the only dream I've ever had that I
identify as a nightmare. I woke up all afraid and crying and
stuff. I attribute the fact that I defied the scary monster at a
very young age to not ever again having something in my dreams
really scare me.
[name removed]'s dream seemed similar so I wonder does [name
removed] still have scary dreams? I think that [name removed]
needed Yosemite Sam to help scare away the threat is significantly
different to my own confrontation.
On to another, unrelated dream, my flatmate dreamt I turned into a
wookie and read the EEL Estate section of the news paper, a
wetter, fishier type of house market.
ha ha I'm a wookie
[name removed]
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Message: 472-005
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Message: 473-001
Subject: recurring dream about Vampires
dream_title: recurring dream about Vampires
dream_date: NA
dream_text: I have been having a recurring dream about Vampires.
I am always the last human and realize that all of my friends and
family have been turned into one of them. I have to fight them
off. The location of their lair is dark, cold and stormy. It is
located on the end of a cliff by the ocean, underground. I have
to fight them off, which I do gallantly for a while, doing humanly
impossible tricks, like the Matrix. But I feel myself getting
tired and weaker because there are so many of them. I feel alone,
I know that it will not last, that eventually I will have to give
in to them, then I wake up.
3/14/02
I dreamt that I was in a very cold place, where there had been ice
glaciers and things. As I am wandering through this place I find
very old items, a watch, a few necklaces, little things like that,
and a dog chain of someone from 1877 or 1977, can't quite remember
but there was a date on it. I realized they were very valuable,
because many old ships had sunk out there. The next part of the
dream I am trying to help get something very important somewhere,
I don't even know what it is. But there were a few of us on one
team working together to get this thing across the airport. I
remember our teacher/leader or someone had to stay behind, and it
was sad, I cried. Then we left and I had to leap over the metal
detector so not to get caught, and the others were my decoys, they
went through first setting it off so that the security would
ignore me and search them. I got through. And made it onto the
flight.
5/22/02
All I remember is that I was painting using many different colors,
all of the colors in my pallet and I was randomly brushing them
over my canvass. All the colors of the rainbow, when I see myself
I notice my hair is also all the colors of the rainbow. I have
stripes of colors all over my hair. The painting started out as
something and then just became a random thoughtless piece of
work. I had the feeling that it [ed.note: dream text ends here]
dream_comments: I don't really understand the symbols in my dreams
I know they mean someting very important or I would not have
remembered them so vividly. I have many dreams, I guess you could
say I look for answers and ask myself to dream the solution. I do
but then I can't seem to figure them out. Can I get some help with
the interpretation or is it completely up to me to relate it to my
life?
Comments: 473-002, 473-006
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Message: 473-002 [473-001]
Subject: Re: recurring dream about Vampires
Warning dreams (relationships)..2 q's:
who is the female in your life invovlved in witchcraft? Can you
recall any colors in the last dream? Jewelry is generally a good
omen. If you are lacking trust in someone right now>or believe
they are ie: backstabbing you. They are...
[name removed]
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Message: 473-003
Subject: (unknown)
Hi. My boyfriend had another weird dream he wanted me to find out
about. He had a dream that he was talking to me with his back to
me. When he turned around, I was REALLY pregnant. He said that I
was huge and we were both smiling. What do you think this means?
Comments: 473-005
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Message: 473-004
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Message: 473-005 [473-003]
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Maybe there's going to be a change in your lives that will make
you both happy.
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Message: 473-006 [473-001]
Subject: Re: recurring dream about Vampires
It sounds to me like you scare easily, and you dream what your
mind is fearing from what you have seen. The dream about the
airport and the metal detectors probably is because of September
11th. You probably were dreaming about some paranormal things at
first, because let's face it, Hollywood today wouldn't be as
corrupt as it is without all that vampire crap. But the part with
the airport is probably because somewhere in the back of your head
you were remembering how Bin Laden said he was doing this because
we are evil, so you dreamed that you were the one smuggling
contraband into the airport. The rainbow is because of spring. The
last couple of days the weather has been nice for everybody, and
yesterday I even felt a burst of energy and cleaned the house from
top to bottom. And I never clean, I just take care of my part of
the house. But your dreams represent your fears. If you had been
watching a little too much "Buffy", or maybe you're a stickler for
horror flicks, that would explain the vampires. If I were you, I'd
try taking a little more time to wind down before you go to sleep.
It's not good to sleep right after watching things on television,
even the news, that might affect the way you sleep.
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Message: 474-001
Subject: Before I was eaten by a Giant
dream_title: Before I was eaten by a Giant
dream_date: May.23,02
dream_text: When I was younger I used to have this repetitive
dream that I was very small, maybe the size of a tomatoe, and i
was in a sandwich. Not just any sandwich a bolony one. The smell
was very strong and made me sick to my stomach. Then all of a
sudden I saw a huge sweaty giant picked up the sandwich and
started to eat the sandwich I was in. I wake up after that every
time!!!!!
dream_comments: What does this mean???????
comments: 475-011
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Message: 474-002
Subject: death
dream_title: death
dream_date: 5/22/02
dream_text: I was in a medical ward and everyone in there had to
be killed kids adults. I was shot 3 times 2 in the hand and once
in the heart i immediately wanted to go to my infant and lay with
him my daughter was already asleep. I couldn't die.
Comments: 475-012
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Message: 474-003
Subject: Dating
dream_title: Dating
dream_date: 22nd May
dream_text: i was dating one of my close male friends and i was
really happy but one of my other female friend who i havent spoke
to for a long time was really jealous and kept being nasty towards
me!!!
dream_comments: What does this mean, please help me
comments: 475-009
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Message: 474-004
Subject: orphan of zirka
Stan requests that his name and e remain with the dream text. -
editor
From: stan kulikowski ii <stankuli@etherways.com>
DATE : 22 may 2002 04:36
DREAM : orphan of zirka
=( last night was a tuesday. i got home from teaching early in
the afternoon, but could not motivate myself into any productive
work that i should be doing. there was an extra long season
finale to _buffy the vampire slayer_ which i watched, but i had
missed most of the season with a tuesday night course last term.
later we watched roger corman's _battle beyond the stars_, the
second remake of _seven samurai_ that i know of. the previous
night we had run _the magnificent seven_. i went to bed around
00:30 and got right to sleep without my usual reading. )=
i feel the slim cold band of metal circle my forehead and all my
nervous activity suddenly calms then stops. in still silence i
sit and hear a man's whispered voice from behind me say
"remember".
a memory uncoils within me. i see the darkened silhouette of a
thin child with a long neck, maybe four years old. a nurse puts
her hand on his shoulder and says "this is your father". the boy
looks up at the stranger before him. i can see his eyes glitter
and move within the bones of his face reflected like an x-ray
within his shadowed shape. around his forehead i can feel the
cold, slightly moist band of zirkon like the one around mine.
"father?" the boy says. i can feel my lips moving, saying the
same thing as his. he is looking at a stranger who is looking at
him, hope in both their eyes.
i understand now that they had to rush this imprinting session,
not because of my need, but that the father would lose the ability
to bond with me if they waited much longer after the birth of his
own child four years ago. that child had died and the hospital
took the opportunity to substitute myself with it. i am one of
the orphans from zirka.
that is why my memories of life before four years have a vague
postcard like quality to them. they are not real, but have been
told to me in zirkon sessions like this one. people from the
planet zirka have a natural susceptibility to the metal zirkon
that comes from their planet. zirkon is mildly radioactive and
its gamma rays resonate with nerve synaptic activities. the
zirkon native to earth only produces a mild reaction like a
trembling in my fingers when i touch it, but zirkon from zirka
have a quantum spin that matches its native nervous tissue and
causes a total paralysis. that is why the shadow government of
earth imports these metal bands from zirka to assure total control
of the immigrant population. superman must have a similar
susceptibility to kryptonite from his own planet.
i can wonder now how the woman i know as my mother must have lied
to herself. it is natural to need a baby after the months of
pregnancy but how could she not sense that her child was
stillborn? perhaps it wasn't and was just put into fosterage so i
could be placed here. still, she had to wait years while my
infancy in the hospital was required to adapt my body to the air,
water and foods of earth. how clear things become when i have
contact with the metal of my home world. how muddled they become
when it is taken off.
during my twenties, when i was in college, i would some mornings
wake up and not remember the night before. we were told that this
was due to alcohol consumption at the time, but now i know these
incidents to be lengthy zirkon conditioning sessions. the queasy
aftermath i felt were because my internal organs had been poorly
regulated for hours when the activity of the vagus nerve had been
suppressed. even now i can not recall what the government agents
did to me when they placed the metal band around my forehead.
usually i would wake up at home after a black out, but sometimes i
would be god knows where next to a woman i did not know. part of
a breeding program i assume. i certainly remember no pleasure
from the activity. i would dress, go outside and wander the
streets looking for my car parked somewhere i could not recall
then to drive aimlessly searching for landmarks until i could find
my way home.
=( i wake around 04:00 and it takes me a while to decide that i am
awake enough to type this into my dream log. i have no idea how
this content features into my life. my memories of life before
age four do have a viewed quality to them, but i assume that is
natural. in my waking life i must have missed the breeding
program where you wake up with strange women. i do not recall
right now if 'zirkon' is a real metal or something that frank
zappa made up. the beginning of this dream had a very creepy
feel to it like someone was in the room with me while i slept. i
can still hear that husky whispered command to 'remember' like it
was not part of the dream. it has a musical breathless quality
like that 'welcome' in the grand rest at the start of the rock
opera _tommy_. )=
comments: 474-005, 474-006
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Message: 474-005 [474-004]
Subject: Re: orphan of zirka
No offence but I dont think it has to do with your life at all, I
just think you watch a little too much Buffy. lol but thats ok, if
you dont mind having those kinda dreams. :) Anyways, when I read
your dream, I rememberd an episode in Buffy when I used to watch
it, when Riely was in there, and there was this red dude, that
walks around killing poeple,and he had wires attatched to him and
stuff, I dont know what he was called, but the only way to destroy
him, was the use of a spell, to give Buffy powers. He was also
created by some scientist, but not physically created by her. And
he called her Mom. Talk to you later, I hope th is helps.
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Message: 474-006 [474-004]
Subject: Re: orphan of zirka
they say that at least one of your dreams that you have through
the night will be of what happened during the day and what you
watched or did before you went to bed. which ever sticks in your
subconscious more. I agree with [name removed] it has nothing to
do with your life.
hope this helps
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Message: 474-007
Subject: my dream
dream_title: my dream
dream_date: 5-21-02
dream_text: i was walking around with my friends and the guy i
like got shot then i was next then next thing i saw i had a bullet
in my stomach and I was strugling with my crush as we were dieing.
dream_comments: It was freaky.
Comments: 475-010
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Message: 475-001
Subject: the accident
dream_title: the accident
dream_date: 1996
dream_text: When the dream began, I was walking across the road in
front of my mother's house, where I grew up. It was dark, and i
didn't see the car that was coming. It hit me, and everything went
black. Then all I could see were very bright ligths, and i seemed
to follow them without walking...down to the highway about a half
mile away. There was a terrible accident there, and I was walking
around looking at the ambulances that were sey up to treat
victims. Many of the bodies were charred, burned beyond
recognitiion. One was a child. The vehicles were being pulled away
from the scene. A red car was so badly mutilated that I couldn't
tell what kind of car it had been. Then, as they raised it to tow
away, the door came open; and I recognized the toys that fell out
as having belonged to my daughter. Then I heard a police officer
telling someone on the scene, "The man and child are dead, and the
woman won't last must longer."
dream_comments: This was the dream that left me the most shaken,
but I often dream of people I love dying, of car accidents and
fires. Although this one didn't, most of my dreams start off
happy, and end badly. They are all long and involved with a
storyline or even a twist, like this one. Sometimes I actually see
credits go up at the end, no joke.
Comments: 475-004, 475-007
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Message: 475-002
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Message: 475-003
Subject: current dream
Just to start in with dreaming... finally...
5/24 I seeemed to be in a group composed of people from
different parts of past; we seem to be attempting to escape from
some type of prison ( a certain land area, I believe; possibly New
England somewhere...) at one point we (each of us) decide to turn
into stone no in our current form, in a smaller, more abstract
version with few features...;this is done to prevent dying...
Later, a large crystal is used by( ? ) to reactivate the group
into human form...I am still attempting to remember the rest of
this dream in which there are attempts at two other
transformations( which do not work...0 prior to this one.
Thank you.... [name removed]
comments: 475-008
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Message: 475-004 [475-001]
Subject: Re: the accident
Is it possible that some of these things you are dreaming of
premonitions? OR things that have actually happened, and you are
there..not in the physical plane but another level?
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Message: 475-005
Subject: scary
dream_title: scary
dream_date: 5-6-02
dream_text: My dream was when I was caught in this house of dark
walls and I was running from something but I don't know what it
was. When I was running,the floor opened up and this fireball was
under me. What does this mean?
dream_comments: TELL ME WHAT THIS MEANS PLEASE!!!!!!!
comments: 475-006
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Message: 475-006 [475-005]
Subject: Re: scary
Usually when you don't know what you're running from it means that
you're running from yourself. Sometimes nightmares with metaphors
represent thoughts, feelings, problems, or even positive
situations, like relationships, that you're subconsciously afraid
to face. The fire under you may mean that it has to do with
religion. It could be either good or bad, depending on what
exactly fire means to you.
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Message: 475-007 [475-001]
Subject: Re: the accident
Maybe you're watching too many dramatic movies about families
being separated. I have trouble with that and it is for that
reason that I refuse to watch Lifetime Channel after dark. You
also might have trouble shaking a fear that you're going to lose
everything good in your life. If those dreams really bother you,
don't watch any of those movies or television shows for at least
three hours before you go to bed.
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Message: 475-008 [475-003]
Subject: Re: current dream
Have you ever heard of the phrase "sands of time"? Sometimes time
goes by so quickly that we don't want to let go of the past. But
after a while these irrelevant memories seem to feel like a
prison, especially if they're sentimental or even parts of our
childhood that we really wouldn't want to remember anyway.
Sometimes it helps to become more active into the community,
besides working, maybe take on some kind of volunteering thing of
some sort. Sometimes even forming closer relationships with the
neighbors will replace some of those memories, which, even though
they may be good, have been around for so long that they start to
haunt. The "transformation" part made me think of witchcraft. If
you're into that, I'd get away from it, it might alienate your
friends and family. But if you're not, be sure keep a good
distance from that stuff. I had my own dream once when someone
said, "Witchcraft isn't wicked, it's just misery." Just try to be
around people more and not think so much about your past
experiences or "misery".
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Message: 475-009 [474-003]
Subject: Re: Dating
Maybe you're wondering about this female friend, and what she's up
to lately. I really don't think the part with the guy means
anything, though, unless you have a crush on him.
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Message: 475-010 [474-007]
Subject: Re: my dream
Maybe you feel a little self conscious about your weight. I'm not
saying there's anything to be worried about, because I've never
met you, but maybe you think your crush doesn't like the way you
look.
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Message: 475-011 [474-001]
Subject: Re: Before I was eaten by a Giant
I think you want to live a better life, like a fairy tale, but the
endings to most stories have been anything but.
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Message: 475-012 [474-004]
Subject: Re: death
You are reminding yourself of what you would do for your children,
no matter how impossible.
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Message: 476-001 [476-001]
Subject: Re: Constantly searching
Dear [name removed],
I have two reactions to this dream. One is that it is a dream
about using one's capacities, or talents, to the fullest. There is
something unfulfilled. A dream like this is often an anxiety dram,
but you report no feelings of stress with it. It would be useful
to consider what has been going on in waking life each time this
dream has occurred. Only if you keep both a dream and a regular
journal could you do this. My other reaction is that your spirit
guides are giving you a tour of your inner world. They stand by
ready to help but do not impose themselves on you. They allow you
to see through your elevator (the mesh door) so that you can see
yourself move through different levels. If you want to contact
them, try thinking about this dream and addressing them just as
you are falling asleep. They may show themselves more actively
when you dream again.
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Message: 476-002 [472-001]
Subject: Re: The Frame
Dear [name removed],
I also have dreams in which I revisit the same places. I
enjoy these dreams and try to gather new information about the
place each time I visit. I'm trying to develop a real map of them
by numbering and crossreferencing the places in my dream journal.
I'm surprised that your fear increases rather than decreases
with repetition. There is something for you to see in the dream
that should not frighten you. If it's lack of control that
frightens you, try carrying an amulet of some kind. Find an image
that resonates with your beliefs and tuck it under your pillow.
Think about the dream and about the protection you have as you
fall asleep. Perhaps then you may have the dream without the fear
and find out what is really there for you.
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Message: 476-003
Subject: Crazy monkey and the end of the world
dream_title: Crazy monkey and the end of the world
dream_date: 9/17/01
dream_text: Once I dreamt that there was a flying monkey in the
air, yelling threats to me, and saying that if I didn't comply
with them, that he would hurt everyone that I know and everyone
around me!! I couldn't do anything about it, but I don't remember
exactly why. The world ended, and it was all my fault.
dream_comments: I have no idea what this means. With everyhthing
on 9/11 I thought it could haveto do with that, but I still dont
know what the monkey had to do with it all. My unlce died the week
before... could that have meant something? He died from a monkey
attack at a zoo... it wasn't publicized or anything.. it was
terrible. Anyway, why did I have that dream, and whats it saying??
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Message: 476-004
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Message: 476-005
Subject: the house
dream_title: the house
dream_date: 05-21-02
dream_text: I had a dream about a house of a person in my work
building. I remembered it very clearly and when I saw her I
laughed as I told her about it. She got almost hysterical and said
that I had just described her house excactly. I have never been
there of course. She wanted to talk to me later as she had to go.
This is not the first time I had a dream of that nature. I have
had many dreams about situations with coworkers that turned out to
have happened. What happens in my dreams is that I see what is or
has happened and the people they are about know there is no way I
could have known. I am starting a dream diary after many many
years of intense dreaming. I am now listening to them
dream_comments: Sorry if I didn't detail a dream. The point is
that I dream every night and when I discuss them the people around
me tell me that it happened. This is getting a little annoying.
Comments: 478-010
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Message: 477-001
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Message: 477-002
Subject: kulba
dream_title: kulba
dream_date: 1984
dream_text: it was the birth of man, behind a mountain 587 feet
high and he was made from a monkey into a homosapien and they were
asking questions about life to this mountain and as they found an
answer they grew more human. it has weight . if you really think
you can experience trips man, you can be sure the wind is full of
surprises.
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Message: 477-003
Subject: archaeology
dream_title: archaeology
dream_date: 5/25/02
dream_text: A series of tunnels have been discovered under the
city of Rome. Spelunkers are very excited. one person tells me,
"we have found a large room with entrances to 40 more tunnels...we
have named the room Bartlom," I looked confused for the informant
then explained, "you know after Coscious Pulmanar" which told me
nothing so for the rest of my dream time I made a conscious effort
to remember Coscious Pulmanar so that I could look it up on the
internet and then know why they had named the room Bartlom
dream_comments: I am not kidding about the dream except I can not
guarantee the correct spelling of he nonsense names...so, of
course, I could not follow up with an internet search...if anyome
wamts to comment..my email adress is chappy@houston.rr.com
comments: 478-008
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Message: 477-004
Subject: lucid vision: explosion
dream_title: lucid vision: explosion
dream_date: 27/05/02
dream_text: Lucid Vision: Bombing
I had just gone to sleep for the final time at 5am. I was sure I
would have difficulty resting, but soon enough I was lucid. My
first thought was of a girl, who I really liked and seen earlier
that day. However, my attempts to meet her in dreaming were to no
avail - I got the feeling there was something much more important
I should be paying attention to. Soon enough, I felt someone
approaching, at first I thought it may be the girl I knew, but
then I recognized it was a spirit.
This spirit was powerful, in the way they took control of the
dream and seemed to know exactly where they were taking me.
Instantly, I was in a plane of some sort. I could see the ground
below me, but could not identify where the place was. I could hear
the sounds of gunfire, at first I thought I was playing a game.
For a second, I paused I didn't really care that much about
shooting, but if it was a game, then maybe I should. I heard more
shots, and soon I looked down at the ground. Below me there was a
huge explosion. A huge mushroom cloud erupted below. I became
shocked at what I thought I had done (by thinking of it) but
instantly knew it was not me who had made the shots. I was
amazingly clear, and even though I knew I was lucid dreaming, it
seemed I had no control over the situation and was going to die.
The explosion seemed to cause a chain of similar explosions, in
the surrounding area, and I watched as strokes of lightning fell
from the sky. This was the scariest part of the dream and I
really wasn't sure If I was ever gonna come back from this.
However, I soon got the feeling that was not a participant in this
situation, just a viewer. I think there were at least three
strokes, it reminded me of a story of forked lightning, and I
thought about the different ways the lightning would go. The last
explosion I saw, spread quickly over the plains of the land. The
land had a couple of trees, but did not seem all that full of
people. I remember seeing animals trying to escape from the fire
from the explosion, but it burst over the ground burning all in
its path. As I watched this horrible devestation take place, I
wondered where this place was. The view hanged, as I moved from
the explosion scene to the area nearby. I was watching the view of
a coastline, and I stayed here for a while to get a look at the
place. At the same time wondering why it was that that the place
looked like a bitmap image or a computer game, but not for one
second doubting why I was being shown this scene. It seemed I was
up there for a while, but I remained lucid after this event, and
thus have difficulty remembering some of the details of the
vision.
I tried to maintain lucidity for a while after this, but it seemed
the spirit did not want me to do this (perhaps to save energy, for
remembering the vision). I found myself in my room, in my dreaming
body, with a staircase where my bookshelf was supposed to be. I
clambered up it, but decided to jump back into bed (still lucid).
It was at this stage, I woke up.
dream_comments: I got the feeling that this vision was really
urgent. Your hopes and prayers for averting this situation would
be appreciated..
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Message: 478-001
Subject: Aliens
dream_title: Aliens
dream_date: 5-25-02 and 5-26-02
dream_text:
DAY 1: I was at my house when then long worm thing came out and
was chasing us then stoped. My family and I was looking for it but
it really never showed up. I went outside and looked up the hill
when I saw two motorcycles come down but I looked in the driveway
and nothing was there so I looked up. There was this little dome
car, like the Jetsons but it had a blue purle clear top and there
were regular people in there. They asked if we wanted a ride and
we said yes and they said we could bring 3 animals if we wanted so
we choose are 3 dogs. Then I wished we would have brought are
cats. So we went zooming in this thing in the sky and then I see
this flash like we had passed over to another place. I looked back
and saw the huge light and said to everyone I knew there was a
different life form out but I really don't think it is aliens. So
we flew a little more when we came to this city. We stoped my
Mcdonalds and got some food then the guy took us to this home. We
got out of the space car I guess you could say it was and went
inside to eat. I was about done with my food with the fries on my
plate have turned into theses little worms but I still ate them,
chasing after them on my plate one by one. After I went to the
bathroom and said I had lost 45lbs then woke up to a little girl
screaming next door.
DAY 2: I was on the school bus going home when my friend had all
these books about death. In the dream my friend jacob had died and
I was really depressed so I took the book about death. I went up
to the front and so did my friend Dustin. We sat there talking as
he leaded over and kissed me. We stoped and kissed again then I
asked what that was for, looking at the ground then him and he had
turned into an alien. He was a green color but still kinda had the
face of him but slowly turned. He pointed at me then I replied
"just because of who I am" and he said yes. He didn't have a round
shaped head but almost scare. I woke up instantly after and went
outside.
dream_comments: I don't know what this is suposed to mean but its
freaking me out. Its now the second night. I hope you can help me
out a little.
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Message: 478-002
Subject: I am me, and I am my daughter
dream_title: I AM ME, AND I AM MY DAUGHTER
dream_date: 5/22/02
dream_text: i dreamed i was walking down the street thinking that
my daughter (who is also me) had died the day before. I was
walking to work and wondering why I wasn't taking any time off
work because of my daughter's death. I was not particularly
saddened, just kind of befuddled.
dream_comments: if anyone has any idea what this dream could mean,
i would love to hear from you.
Comments: 478-007, 478-012
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Message: 478-003
Subject: marriage?
dream_title: marriage?
dream_date: 5/20-24/02
dream_text: I have had this dream many times. It is always the
same. And I still don't understand what it is about. I and single
as in not engaged but I am in a serious relationship With Jeff and
have been for some time now. well here is my dream: It stares out
with me and one of my friends flying up to Boston, Mass to see
Jeff. When we get there it is the normal greeting two people who
are in love have. We kiss and hug oblivious to everyone around us.
Well, then he takes my friend and I to meet his Uncle who is
waiting for us by the exit. we stand there and talk for a while
then they take us back to their place where we will be staying
instead of a hotel. The next couple of days Jeff shows us around
Boston. We go sailing. And have so much fun. A couple day later
after a long day of just being together alone with Jeff everyone
goes to be except Jeff. he said he wasn't tired. I go in my room
and try to sleep but I can't so I get up and join Jeff in the
front room. I sit down on his lap and put my arms around his neck
and he kisses me long a loving. We sit like that fore a long time
and talk about nothing in particular. Then he tell me that he will
be right back he has to go get something so I slid off of him and
he stands up and disappears into his room. he is not gone very
long. When he returns instead of sitting on the couch he kneels in
front of me on one knee. He takes my hand and pulls out a ring
box. He then opens it and looks me striate in the eyes and he
asked to be his Bride. I of course am shocked but I slid off the
couch and through my arms around his neck and I say yes and kiss
him. then he smiles and says good. Then he tells me he loves me
and I tell him I love him. Then he stands up helps me up and he
takes the ring out of the box and he slides it on my finger. Then
he kisses me and picks me up carries me into my room where we
sleep together for the first time. Then I wake up.
if anyone can help me to understand this dream pleas e-mail me at
HeavenSent8381@aol.com
dream_comments: I don't know what my dram means or anything but
this is only one that I could share. i dream all the time and I
remember most of them. I can sen more if you want. Oh I put my e-
mail address on my dream so peaple can e-mail me what they think
my dream means if they want. So please use my e-mail.
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Message: 478-004
Subject: Collage of dreams..cont.
dream_title: Collage of dreams..cont.
dream_date: 5/26/02
dream_text: I accidentally hit return before I was finished..I
was telling about several dreams I remembered from last night with
a wheelchair theme. I don't think I am remembering them in proper
order, and some of them may be parts of the same dream. The next
one I remember is a dream of my stepfather. I dreamed I saw him
and he had aged 20 years..his face was gaunt and wrinkled and he
was walking so slowly and on a cane. He had bruises and red marks
as though he had fallen. I was helping him to bed. I asked him
what was wrong, he said he had broken his hip. I felt very sad
for him. I couldn't believe how old he seemed.
Another one I remember is that I was at some sort of support
group, day care or home with a bunch of youngish (thirties and
forties) men in wheelchairs. They were all in a circle, and there
were women around that were to care for/entertain them. It was my
first time there and I was going through some sort of initiation
where I had to perform something for one of the men, determined by
a drawing (like drawing the deed out of a hat) or a spin of a
wheel or something. I had to kiss one of these men, and I had to
put red lipstick on before doing it. The one I thought I had to
kiss was actually an old friend of mine..I thought "The joke is on
them, I have kissed him before" Then they told me it was this
other man, who was more like a leader, or maybe he was rich, but
he had some status...I was attracted to him, and I gave him a long
sensuous kiss..he was pleased, saying "That was nice!"
The last one I remember is the most exotic and captivating, and
one of the most unusual I have ever had. I was at a fishing lake,
a pay lake. I was fishing with people I knew. The place was so
crowded you could barely find a spot to sit and fish. The weather
was hot and the sun seemed to be blazing. It seems there were
foreigners there observing us fishing. I was thinking "I hope
they don't think this is how Americans get their food" The water
was full of debris. I felt a tug on my line and got very excited,
I had a bite!! When I reeled in my line, on the end of my hook
was a foam head, the kind you put a wig on to hold it's shape. It
was painted silver and had a face drawn on it. I can't explain
why, but this dream seems to have some importance or meaning to
it. Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.
dream_comments: In real life my stepfather is only around 60, is
very active and in good health. We have a good relationship. The
friend in the wheelchair in real life can walk just fine..we have
been out of touch a long time, but have recently been talking over
the internet.
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Message: 478-005
Subject: The Big Choice
dream_title: The Big Choice
dream_date: Oct./01 & May 20/02
dream_text:
Oct.2001 dream: A faceless man gave me two presents. The
packaging was identical and the contents were similar. They were
gold boxes with the type of lid you lift off (like a hat box only
square) and were tied with a rich, burgundy ribbon with gold
trimmed edging. A man, whose face I couldn't see, told me if I
could tell which one was the better gift, then we could be
together forever. I opened the lids and reviewed the contents.
Each gift was similar items such as bath oils, soaps, and makeup
done in shades of burgundy and fragrances like raspberry. Gift #1
was obviously luxury items that were brand-name like Body Shoppe.
At first glance, Gift #2 appeared to have the same product. But
on closer inspection, was comprised of Dollar Store knock-offs
that were cheap quality. I chose correctly in the dream but, upon
waking, could not remember which I chose.
May 20,2002 dream: I was at a beach resort/golf club type of place
(part of me feels that it was a university campus) looking around
the gift shop when a man tapped me on the shoulder. When I turned
around it was a blond guy who looked like a guy I knew. He's
average height with a stocky build, attractive but not gorgeous.
Even though he didn't look the same, I knew it was an acquaintance
of mine named [name removed]. I was excited to see him and gave
him a big hug. When I pulled away from him his looks changed so
that he looked like Sean does in reality slim build, dark hair
and eyes, just beautiful He held up two identical gold ankle
bracelets he had just bought and asked me what the difference was.
I looked them over and one cost $18.99 and the other was $5.99 but
otherwise they were the same (18K). I told him that he got ripped
off on the $18.99 bracelet. He smiled and put one bracelet on me,
then the other on himself. Then he said, "Would you go out with
me?" to which I ecstatically replied "YES!". He kissed me and
passed me a duffle bag that contained a jacket and something else
(looked like airline tickets), and told me he was staying at
another place and to meet him there. He said, "It's just like
this one, just in a different location. But at least you'll get
different scenery." Then I was driving up a hill on a lovely city
street with palm trees and sand and the ocean off a bit from the
road. I knew I was on my way to see him and I had never felt
happier.
Comments: 478-006, 478-009, 478-011
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Message: 478-006 [478-005]
Subject: Re: The Big Choice
Did this Sean move to a coastal area? Do you eve know where Sean
is? I think either you miss Sean and you would like to get
together with him or maybe this dream means in general that you're
looking for your soulmate in the wrong place. Maybe you might have
better luck in that area you dreamed about. It sounds like it
could be Florida, with the city road, ocean view, and palm trees
all in the same place. Of course I haven't been around a lot, but
your description sounded specifically like the Melbourne area.
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Message: 478-007 [478-002]
Subject: Re: I am me, and I am my daughter
How old is your daughter? Maybe you two aren't connecting as well
as you should be. If she's a teenager, you need to connect with
her more so. You might just need to spend more time with her, no
matter what age she is, and get to know her better so you can
trust her and she can trust you, if anything should happen in her
life. The other upside to spending more time with your kids is
that you form the kind of relationship with them that a lot of
fathers lack. With a daughter, it's pretty difficult to share an
interest, but after all, she is your kid, you have to have
something in common. When I'm with my father, we don't like all
the same things, but two things we do agree on are movies and
basketball. He calls me constantly to find out what movies are
coming out on video (i work at a video store) and to ask me if
I've seen the latest game and the fight that happened in it.
That's what I think your dream means, you're not close enough to
your daughter and subconsciously you're afraid that she might die
suddenly and you'll regret not spending enough time with her.
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Message: 478-008[447-003]
Subject: Re: archaeology
Sometimes words in foreign languages sound or look like words in
English. Coscious Pulmunar sounds like Conscious Pulmonary. I
don't care if you're not sure about the spelling, your whole post
in general sounds really interesting. It also sounds like a sign
of a heart problem. That phrase that I just hopefully interpreted
sounds like it's a synonym-type phrase for "living, beating
heart". We all know what the word conscious means, and Pulmonary
is a word that is used to describe the particular system in which
your heart pumps blood through your veins so you can breathe.
Pulmonary Resuscitation is a method used in the emergency room
when someone goes into cardiac arrest. Those tunnels sound like
how doctors have to clear out your main veins in the heart to make
it work normally again. The Roman thing could mean one of three
things: You're a little tiffed about the recent child abuse case
involving that priest, the root of the problem is too much italian
food, or you will be saved in a Catholic hospital. But I think
that your body is telling you more than your mind in this
particualar dream that you need to have your cholesterol checked
and have a complete physical right away.
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Message: 478-009 [478-005]
Subject: Re: The Big Choice
I notice some patterns in these dreams...important choices being
the strongest. But the comparing of two simular items, and having
to judge which has more value, which is more genuine, having to
look beyond the surface and dig deeper to know the truth...perhaps
part of you feels you are being fooled..it seems you are choosing
between good and better, because both of your choices come in the
form of a gift....no matter what you choose it seems on the
surface you would benefit...but I sense that emotionally within
the dream and upon waking the dreamer felt that the choice was
urgent, echoing the idea of digging deeper, looking closer, etc.
These are just my gut reactions. Neat dreams, thanks for sharing.
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Message: 478-010 [476-005]
Subject: Re: the house
Welcome to the club. I've been doing that "dream what is, what has
been, and what will be" kind of thing since I was a small child.
My grandmother does it, too. It's really fun as long as the people
you tell your dreams to don't think you're crazy. When I was
REALLY young I would dream things and they would happen, from
specific tornado warnings right down to a turn in the plot on
General Hospital, long before it's announced in the magazines. It
doesn't happen as often as it probably does for you, so when it
does happen I go into shock and anxiously wait for it to happen
again.
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Message: 478-011 [478-005]
Subject: Re: The Big Choice
If it were my dream, I would consider it a dream telling me that I
have a choice before me. On the surface the choices seem alike but
in closer examination, one is second class, counterfeit.
I am reminded of the difference between the choice to follow God,
the highest good or the counterfeit. The second looks good on the
surface but at closer examination is not the quality of the first.
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Message: 478-012 [478-002]
Subject: Re: I am me, and I am my daughter
I suggest to make a list of characteristics that come to mind
when you think of your daughter. Then consider the symbol of
death. It usually means change, endings. Does it mean that to
you?
After considering the possible meanings of these symbols in
your dream, ask yourself what characterisitics in yourself is this
dream telling you have through the use of the symbol of your
daughter, i.e., what characteristics you listed of your daughter
apply to you.... which are somehow changing in you?
The dream might be suggesting that you are not paying the
attention to/ or noticing the changes (if that is what death means
to you) in yourself, which rather surprises you that it does not
bother you more. The change may cause you some disorientation and
feelings of being befuddled, but it isn't a big deal afterall.
What qualities in yourself are changing that maybe you thought
would bother you worse than it does?
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Message: 478-013
Subject: movie part 2
dream_title: movie part 2
dream_date: may 25, 2002
dream_text:
This is the second dream i had on the same night...I
was in the same movie theater as before and there were shelves
full of bookbags with a counter in front of it. One of Ricky's
friends was working behind it giving out people's bookbags. For
some reason i was staring at that kids bracelets and rings (he had
the same ring as me). We gave the kid a number (10) and he gave
us a bookbag that wasnt ours. We were looking 4 money in it to
steal. We searched through alot of bookbags but we couldnt find
any money.
dream_comments: this is the other dream i had in the same exact
place as before and with the same people but a different dream. I
also found this wierd so can u please tell me what it means?
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Message: 478-014
Subject: The Movies
dream_title: The Movies
dream_date: May 25, 2002
dream_text: I was at the movies with my friend Ricky and 2 of his
friends that i have never seen before. There were also 2 old
ladies there that i didnt know either. We all went to see a movie
and the boy sitting next to me really liked me. So when the movie
finished the kid wouldnt let me go. I was screaming Ricky's name
to help me and i ran behind him while he was in the arcade playing
video games. Then the kid left me alone. After that we went in
the car with the 2 old ladies and we went home.
dream_comments: I really would like to know what this dream means
because it was really wierd.
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Message: 480-001
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Message: 481-001
Subject: Nightmare
Lately, I have been having alot of lucid dreams about myself.
Which is rare. The omens, the signs are very clear. They are
positive suggestions that fit with what I am going through. Last
night however, the dream was really a nightmare. Extremely intense
and vivid. However, all the signs were the same. I didn't feel
fear then or when I awoke. What troubles me is why it was a
nightmare? Any thoughts?
Comments: 481-002, 482-003
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Message: 481-002 [481-001]
Subject: Re: Nightmare
Dear [name removed],
A nightmare without fear could easily be your unconscious
telling you you have overcome fear already, or preparing you to
face something fearlessly. That would be my interpretation.
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Message: 481-003
Subject: Speaking In Toungs
dream_title: Speaking In Toungs
dream_date: 5/?/02
dream_text: My dream does not start with speaking in tounges. In
fact, the beginning of this dream may be a completely different
one. The memory is very vague now. I am first rock climbing with
some friends. They reach the top. I on the other hand see
nothing but black before getting to the very top. I somehow find
a cave that is like a hollow square to rest in. The room begins
to fill with a televison or two. That part of my dream breaks and
I find myself in what seems to be a foriegn land. During this
part, I have lost my shoes and I need to find them. I start
asking people where my shoes are in Spanish. It was spanish, I've
had three years of it in school so far. People that I am talking
to respond in Spanish. I keep asking people until I somehow find
myself in a shack asking people where my shoes are in spanish.
They begin laughing. I turn around and find myself in another
room with my shoes. I turn again and I am in a different room
with someone who mutters something to me. The person sounded like
he was from Jamaica. That is all I remember from my dream.
dream_comments: I have never had a dream before where I spoke in
another language.
Comments: 483-001
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Message: 481-004
Subject: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
dream_title: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
dream_date: around April 16th, 2001
dream_text: I was living in the house i live in now, only now my
family isn't there and the only ones who do live there are girls
of all ages w/problems... they use drugs, drink, prostitutes,
stuff like that. There was also the Italian guy who watched after
us. I'm not sure why i was there.
I had this guy who i couldn't see who kept talking to
me... maybe he was my consciense or something. But he said that my
time was running out and i couldn't stay here anymore, i had to
run away. He was my only friend and the only person i could trust,
so i listened to what he was saying. He told me to, "Go
downstairs, pack my bags, and run". So i went into my basement,
only it was way bigger tan my real basement and had a concrete
floor. Other than that, it was the same. Even the bath towels. I
know because i went into the bath room and wrapped a bunch of
pieces of glass in the hand towels and put them in my bag with all
of my other things. Then i went into the main room again. Then i
looked at this tall girl w/blonde wavy hair and i heard this voice
say "Kill her. Kill her and run". So then i go up to the girl and
stab her... she quietly and slowly slumos to the floor. All the
other girls started going over there to see what i did, and the
Italian guy comes down the stairs to see what's wrong. That's when
i go upstairs.
I got up and heard the voice say "Take the birth control
pills behind the picture of Italy," so i do. Then he tells me that
i CAN'T run away. I was trying to convince him... he said that "If
u run now, don't expect me to help you, you'll be on your own and
no one else will help you, either. Trust me, I will just run the
other way if you go out that door." I stood there, one hand on the
sliding glass door, thinking. He had been the one who was supposed
to help me; he was supposedly my only friend. But i knew that my
time was running out and that the cops would be here soon... so i
slid open the door and ran. I jumped a fence and bolted; and saw
the voice for the first time as he turned out of the house and ran
the other way.
I ran past one street where my friends live, because even
though it musta been about midnight, i knew they would want to
talk to me, and it would stall me. So I turned into the other
street, while a girl running ahead of me went straight. Then a
woman who was outside in her lawn at the corner of the street
looked at me and yelled "Geez, where's the haunted house!?" Not
understanding at the time that she probably meant why was i runnig
so fast, i yelled back, "My house.". She just started laughing and
yelled to the other girl who was running, "Did you hear that,
Samantha? A haunted house right on my own street!" and kept
laughing.
This is where i woke up.
dream_comments: Okay..... i have NO clue what this could mean....
I only really know why i took the glass. Everything else is lost
to me.
Comments: 481-012, 483-003, 484-001, 484-002
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Message: 481-005
Subject: sharebear
dream_title: pregnancy
dream_date: may,2002
dream_text: the first night i dreamed i was pregnant then the next
night i dreamed i was at my aunts house and i was pregnant and my
water broke,i was sad because my boyfriend didnt want to come with
me to the hospital and i said i was going to be alone for another
one, My sister was there and she told me that she would come with
me this time but i told her no make my boyfriend come and he did i
had a long labour but i then had a baby
dream_comments: what exactly does this mean, I had my cords tied 5
years ago and i did have 2 pregnancy's alone, But what does that
have to do with it ,, Thanks
comments: 481-015
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Message: 481-006
Subject: miscarriage
dream_title: miscarriage
dream_date: 5/22/02
dream_text: the other night i had a dream that my friend and i
were pregnant together. than one day out of the blue she comes
over to my house that she had a miscarriage. i am 4 months
pregnant now. that is my worst fear. is having a miscarriage.
Comments: 481-013, 482-002
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Message: 481-007
Subject: weird dreams about famous people
dream_title: weird dreams about famous people
dream_date: 29/05/02
dream_text: I keep having dreams featuring famous people, who are
in my dreams nearly every night. They are just like friends in my
dream. The celebrities and myself aren't involved in anything
unusual, just normal daily activities. I don't feel phased by them
being there. It feels as normal as if a friend were present.
Comments: 481-011, 481-014
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Message: 481-008
Subject: Savage
dream_title: Savage
dream_date: 05-28-02
dream_text: The manager of a dark an old building, was a horrible
and old man. I met him since he was younger. He had old women and
little girls shut in the building. He beat them with a whip, like
they were his slaves. I saw when he did it, and believe me it was
horrible. Then he told strong words to one of them, and she was
crying.
Comments: 481-016
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Message: 481-009
Subject: Dark Skies
dream_date: 5/29/02
dream_text: STrange strange dream but it started where I was on
the phone talking with someone, trying to explain to them the
weather I was experiencing. It basically was very cloudy (dark
dark skies) and I was explaining it to someone on the other end of
the phone by saying that it was as if there were a bunch of people
surrounding me from above with a huge blanket or cover of some
sort and they were trying to cover me with that cover. I could
see people standing in a circle looking down at me...however,
within my dream this was not actually happening...it was what I
was using to explain how the skies were "closing in" with
darkness.(meaning, I could see that image in my dream but I knew
somehow that it wasn't actually happening, it was just something
of my imagination so I could describe the skies to the person on
the other end of the phone) Then..to the left by the horizon I
could see 2 or 3 tornadoes and I thought to myself that if they
touch ground, I didn't have to worry. One (very skinny) tornado
did indeed touch ground and dirt, etc. was exploding..but again,
this was at a a distance. Suddenly I realized we (the people I
was with???) needed to run for cover somewhere so we headed down
into what semed to be a basement, to hide under a staircase or
something. THat is all I remember.
dream_comments: What on earth could something like that mean??
comments: 481-017
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Message: 481-010
Subject: Scene at My uncles
dream_title: Scene at My uncles
dream_date: 5/30/02
Dream: my uncle had died and I was at his house. I seen my little
sister and all my cousins getting out of a car while my uncles
wife held the door open. My uncles wife was talking to me like it
wasn't bad that my uncle was dead and I was crying.then I was on a
road and my oldest sisters car came in my head like a vision and
passed by me and I don't know how but I knew my sister and my
nephew were dead, in an accident. All during the dream I was
crying like it was really happening and I felt the pain that I
would feel if it had really happened. I woke up and started
crying. I still felt
the hurt I felt in my dream.
Comments: 482-001
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Message: 481-011 [481-007]
Subject: Re: weird dreams about famous people
Hi There,
I just wanted to tell you I went through a phaze like this a few
months ago....I had dreams about several different famous
musicians for a span of two or three weeks. I don't know why, and
it didn't last. My thought at the time was maybe it was because
I'm a musician too. I ocasionally have dreamed about famous
people all through my life, but never like that one period where I
dreamed about Bonnie Riatt (who I love) Phil Collins (who I'm not
as fond of, at least as a singer) and
several others over that short period. Don't know what it means,
just thought I'd share it with you.
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Message: 481-012 [481-004]
Subject: Re: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
Do things sometimes happen in your house that you can't explain?
Your house really might be literally haunted. That voice you were
hearing might have been the ghost trying to make him/herself
known, maybe trying to tell you how they died or why they're in
the house.
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Message: 481-013 [481-006]
Subject: Re: miscarriage
Your dream was just reflecting your fear. Is your friend pregnant?
If not, you might have been trying to calm yourself by saying that
you're just as likely to have a miscarriage as she is. But just to
be safe, I'd stay off your feet more and eat enough to keep the
baby growing. A lot of times the first baby leads to a
miscarriage, because the new mother isn't sure how her body would
react to pregnancy. If you're really worried about it, don't go
out walking or running, or doing any yoga. There are a lot of
women who miscarry due to too much exercise. Going out shopping is
enough. Any doctor who tells you different is the kind that waits
until you miscarry to order you to stay in bed.
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Message: 481-014 [481-007]
Subject: Re: weird dreams about famous people
Some people say "A dream is a wish your heart makes." But some
people become so relaxed when they are asleep that their dreams
aren't necessarily what they want, just whatever would make them
feel content enough not to worry all night. Your dram sounds like
that. It's very pleasant, and you don't wake up actually wanting
it, you just wonder why the heck you dreamed it.
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Message: 481-015 [481-005]
Subject: Re: sharebear
Maybe even though your tubes have been tied, you might still want
another child. Your boyfriend, however, might not. But the dream
could also be turned around. Does your sister have a boyfriend or
a husband? It's possible that she's pregnant or might be soon.
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Message: 481-016 [481-008]
Subject: Re: Savage
Did you have a troublesome childhood? I did, and it was for that
reason that I used to have dreams like yours. Dreams like that
also reflect worry over various trivial matters that you might
want to confront to sleep better at night. Yes, I did say trivial.
Even the smallest worries can cause nightmares if there's more
than one of those worries.
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Message: 481-017 [481-009]
Subject: Re: Dark Skies
In dreams tornados generally represent disaster. That darkness
sounds like a very bad situation that you were not aware was going
to turn into a disaster. You also said that you were describing it
as "people covering you with a dark blanket". That sounds like
negativity, which probably had caused the situation. Are you
around a lot of pessimistic people? If you are, it could be
affecting you in a bad way.
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Message: 481-018
Subject: unusual dream
Maybe one of you can help me with this dream. Let me explain my
current situation first before I tell you about my dream. Up
until March, my best friend from kindergarten [anme removed] was
my roomate for the last 2 years. She moved out so my bf and I
could have our own place. Since she's left, I haven't spoken to
her. She lives in the same apt. complex but never comes by or
calls. I think she is upset with me for some reason. I've also
recently had my kitchen tile redone. Now that you
have this bit of info, let me tell you my dream.
My dream: I dreamt that [name removed] and her current Bf were
here in my apt. I don't know why she was here, but it wasn't to
see me. Things were really awkward at first. We began talking
about a framed poster I had in my hand and I was deciding where to
put it. I didn't want her to think that some of my walls were
still empty from when she left. We were in my kitchen and in the
corner, by my bathroom, the tile was ripped up and showing
concrete. My toilet was missing in my bathroom and the hole where
it used to be was sealed up with plaster. I kept telling her,
"we're remodeling, my toilet should be back soon" but I really
didn't know why my toilet was gone. I felt like I couldn't show
her how I ws living. I wanted her to think that my life was
perfect. Then, it jumped from this to us all being in Las Vegas. I
was there with co-workers for a work vacation. All my co-workers
and I were sliding down what ws supposed to be an escalator, but
had no stairs. We were all lying on the floor with our luggage and
I remember asking a co-worker if [name removed] was supposed to be
there.(she doesn't work with me, so in real life she wouldn't be
at any of my work functions) I felt really awkward. Even though in
the beginning of this dream we had talked, this part of it, I
hadn't seen her since she moved out. Someone said yes she is and
then I saw her and her Bf sliding down the "escalator". The almost
superior/too good to talk to you feeling felt mutual between us.
Then the dream jumped to our apt. complex but it wasn't really our
apt. complex. It was supposed to be the resort we were staying at.
They were in they're apt. and I was walking by the back and
looking through the window at them. Her apt. was really nice with
huge fish tanks and plants everywhere. [name removed], her bf, and
a few of our neighbors were all sitting in there laughing and
having a good time. I felt left out and betrayed. I suddenly felt
like they were going to catch me so I ran off. I woke up after
this with a really weird feeling. If any of you have any insight
on this dream it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Message: 481-019
Subject: Lillian
A couple of nights ago I kept having this dream over and over
again that people I didn't know were walking up to me in the most
bizarre places and giving me gift wrapped boxes. They might have
said who the gifts were from, but I don't remember. I was excited
every time, but every time the box was empty. Each time I would
see an empty box, I would leave the dream and eventually I would
be back in it again getting another box. Can someone please tell
me what this means?
[name removed]
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Message: 481-020
Subject: Violent Games
dream_title: Violent Games
dream_date: 5/30/02
dream_text: I've had a couple violent dreams recently, but one has
really been bothering me. It was set on the balcony of a creepy,
old mansion. There was someone having a contest with three little
kids. Each of the kids had to do something that the man told them
to do. I don't remember what the first one did. The second kid had
to take an awl and shove it into his head once. Lastly the third
had a retractable awl and had to shove it into his head three
times.
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Message: 482-001 [481-010]
Subject: Re: Scene at My uncles
Sometimes dreams allow us to fully feel emotions we're not
recognizing in our waking life. If you have lost something or had
to give up something, some activity, say,then this dream is
allowing you to mourn that loss.
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Message: 482-002 [481-006]
Subject: Re: miscarriage
Hi:
For me dreams of miscarriages represent lost opportunities. If
I'm pregnant and dream of losing the baby, I can be pretty sure
that in reality I won't have a miscarriage, but I may want to
consider the possibilities I have consciously renounced to in
order to have a child. They will probably seem pale when I hold my
baby in my arms for the first time. Blessings. [name removed]
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Message: 482-003 [481-001]
Subject: Re: Nightmare
Maybe that is it. Someone asked me how I could have a nightmare
without fear? It is hard to explain. But perhaps you are right:-)
Thanx
[name removed]
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Message: 482-004
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Message: 482-005
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Message: 483-001 [481-003]
Subject: Re: Speaking In Toungs
maybe your worried bout not getting the luanguage right and
finding the right answers,you look and look and you still cannnot
find them. just some advice.
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Message: 483-002 [481-004]
Subject: Re: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
thats strange, I had the same prob, I was told I'd run out of
energy soon or something like that, and that is the day before I
asked a question,and when I do ask a question by writing it on
paper, I get a strange voice in my head too, I dont understand it
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Message: 483-003 [481-004]
Subject: Re: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
In reaction to [name removed]'s comment, I had a friend once who
would hear voices every time she looked in the mirror. She
believed that they were spirits and looking in the mirror made it
easier for her to hear them. I would have to think really hard for
a really long time for me to hear any. Everyone's brain processes
thoughts differently. But dreams are the one time that you're most
capable of hearing them, because the brain just doesn't follow
it's normal pattern. The pattern for every dream is different too.
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Message: 484-001 [481-004]
Subject: Re: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
ya, that's neat, thanks for the information :) I know what you
mean, and I think thats very special to hear spirits talking.
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Message: 484-002 [481-004]
Subject: Re: My Conscience Is Running Away From Me?
ya, I think that's special to hear something like that, maybe your
friend too,can ask a question and look at the mirror and hear a
response, maybe the person is watching over,and in your dreams,
you can do the same. :)
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Message: 485-001
Subject: nightmare on oak st
I had a strange dream last night that I was on vacation with
people that I didn't know and some of them I knew and didn't
particularly want to be around. But we were in this building, I
think it was an auditorium in a grammar school. Every time I would
be alone, I would see Freddy Krueger flashing his nails at me. I
kept giving him things so he would like me and not want to kill
me. It worked, every time he was around I would give him some kind
of gift and run away. Then he would chase someone, never me, and
disappear. But after a while he went nuts and started going after
everyone in sight. All of us in that place gathered together and
locked doors hoping it would keep him out for a while. Then a
look-a-like (someone who could pass as freddy's twin) strolled in.
The only difference between this guy and Freddy was that this guy
wasn't disfigured. He was really bewildered and demanded to know
what was going on. I was about to tell him when he looked out the
window and saw Freddy trashing what seemed to be some sort of
resale shop. He said something around the lines of "For Goodness
Sake, Not Again", and took off after Freddy. I stood around for a
few minutes, I don't remember what I was doing. Then I looked out
the window to see him sitting on a bench next to Freddy, who's
head was hanging down as if he wanted to cry, and the guy was
talking him through it. Then the dream was over.
All through my childhood I would have nightmares about Freddy
Krueger and I never saw the movies. Nothing else ever scared me in
such a way, not Jason from Friday the 13th, not Michael Myers,
from Halloween. When I became tired of the nightmares, I decided
to picture myself actually killing Freddy while I was wide awake.
It worked, until a few months ago. Then they just started up
again. This dream was the weirdest, that's why I shared it. Can
anyone tell me what this means, or even relate to it?
[name removed]
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Message: 485-002
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Message: 485-003
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Message: 486-001
Subject: Dinosaurs
dream_title: Dinosaurs
dream_date: 6-1-02
dream_text: In this dream a group of people (some of which i
know)and I are running from dinosaurs. At first it's almost a
game in which we all enjoy participating although some people are
caught and killed. It consists of a series of patterns and moves
that ensure our escape and safety. I decide to omit one pattern
(rescuing a lost puppy) and find myself unable to escape while the
others watch. I know that if I let the puppy go that will probably
divert the dinosaurs, but I don't do it. I'm able to hide
underwater for a few minutes undetected but am eventually found by
flying dinosaurs and electric eels. I know if I emerge from the
"pool" i'll either face the dinosaurs or the people controlling
them. I get out of the pool and decide to fight these people but
they overcome me and start spraying me with acid. This is when I
wake up and almost feel the pain of the acid. And no, I didn't
have any funky food before I went to bed.
dream_comments: The pain I feel on my arm is what woke me up and I
could still feel remnants of the pain as I lay in bed awake. I
wasn't cutting off circulation because I was lying flat on my back
with my arms out to my sides. I'm more interested in the possible
meaning of this dream than I am in the cause of the pain. .
.although an explanation of that would be interesting as well.
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Message: 486-002
Subject: dont remember
dream_date: dont remember
dreamer_name: lenawink@fastmail.fm
dream_text: i felt like trying to make something appear. so i spin
around wishing for bud in my pocket when i stop. i stopped, no
bud. then i walk to a picnic, look around, there a huge bag of
buds on the ground. i bend down to pick some up, a man sitting on
the table near says, " thats not yours, its mine." i ask if i can
have some, he asks for ten dollars. i check my pocket for cash and
find ten dollars. i get weed and i find a bong with a stem thats
too big. i then start walking down the trail into the woods, see
some wild creature, realize its a big wolf. i start seeing a few
of them, looking mean with huge sharp teeth. i panic, then realize
what i have to do, i look at my hands till i can spin, i stop,
then start floating up into the sky. i look around, there are
bright lights red white, all beautiful colors, super bright. its a
carnival, i look straight ahead and there are huge mountains,
amazing snow covered mountains right there. i fly higher and
higher till all i can see below me is water, its the ocean. im in
the ocean. with nothing but water for miles and miles. i wish for
a ship. i bump into something, look around, its a ship. i grab
onto a rope ladder that appears on the side, climb up to the top
its narrow. i see a midget sized peg leg pirate silor man. he says
"who are you? you dont belong here." i thought he was going to
kick me off, but instead he takes me to shore and wishes me
happiness. i kept "waking up" and looking at the clock which
always said 9:30. all i remember when i "woke up" i looked out my
front door and the ground was covered in the years first snow in
the end of august.
dream_comments: this was a dream i had a while ago, but it was the
most vivid and lucid dream ive had where i could make things
appear, and was not afraid of anything. please use my email.
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Message: 486-003
Subject: unusual childbirth
dream_title: unusual childbirth
dream_date: 5/30/02
dream_text: I had this dream that I was giving birth to twins and
I needed a c section. The baby girl came out fine, except for the
fact that she needed a heart monitor. The boy was pushing the
cervix, though, for natural childbirth. The obstitrician on staff
sent me to a "specialist" for this. I was wheeled to a different
wing with my belly still cut open, and I didn't feel any pain. I
hadn't felt anything at all, just fear for the baby. When the boy
was born, I held him and I felt much closer to him than the girl,
even though you wouldn't think anyone would notice at that point
in time. Then I
suddenly found myself sitting at home, wondering where my kids
were. I remember thinking at the time that they were still in the
hospital and not big enough to be sent home. I tried to call but I
couldn't get through. I was screaming that if I didn't call the
hospital someone was going to take my kids away from me for
neglect. Then I woke up.
dream_comments: I have a friend who is pregnant, or at least she
was the last time I talked to her about it. She has various health
problems and her obstitrician told her that he is going to order a
c section two months before the baby is due. He said that she (the
baby) might not survive, but if my friend carries the baby full
term my friend might not survive. Now my friend is a twin, but I
was more attached to the boy in this dream and she was told during
an ultrasound that she's definitely having a girl.
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Message: 486-004
Subject: holding on
dream_title: holding on
dream_date: 6/3/02
dream_text: my dream began lastnight. in this dream, a former male
that i had been dating was holding onto me in the middle of a
parking lot. the male now has another girlfriend, but in the
dream, it didn't seem as if we were being pulled apart, but that
we were being brought together. the dream ended after we located
my vehicle
dream_comments: what could this dream mean. could it mean that we
will be brought back together?
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Message: 486-005
Subject: waves crashing the movie
dream_title: waves crashing the movie
dream_date: 6/4/02
dream_text: in my dream i was in a movie theatre with a guy. all
of a sudden there was a huge panic right as a huge wave was coming
in from what appeared to literally be the sky. before the man and
i had a chance to escape, the wave entered the theatre and began
to fill up the room. luckily we were able to make it outside, but
just as we were coming to the surface, the dream ended and i was
awakened by the sound of a ringing telephone.
dream_comments: what could this dream be trying to tell me?
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Message: 486-006
Subject: Crash
dream_title: Crash
dream_date: 6-3-02
dream_text: Ok, my dream begins at my childhood home, where i
lived from the age of 4-14. I was having people over and a girl
from my highschool class was driving a huge Lincoln towncar up my
driveway. She was late coming to the party so i told her to park
by our garage. well she kept going and fell off the end of the
driveway into the ditch behind. I just stood there motionless. It
was very random for this girl to appear in my dream. Next i went
to go check on the girl and her passengers, and the ditch turned
in a lake and her car turned into a coffin, floating on the lake.
My backyard somehow surrounds the lake and my backyard turned into
Tuscany...then i wake up.
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Message: 486-007
Subject: Love Lost
dream_title: Love Lost
dream_date: 06-04-02
dream_text: I had a very real and vivid Dream of my Boyfriend that
passed almost two years ago. I dreamed that I couldn't believe
anyone he was alive until I seen him. He took his time telling me
how much he has missed me and how much he loved me. I couldn't let
go of him throughout the dream. We were running away from old
friends and family. As though If he gets caught we couldn't be
together anymore. I made sure going through cemetaries that He
said the lords prayer together. So, the thing I'm not sure what
wouldn't get him. We jumped into a flowing river together to
outrun them ( I'm afraid of deep dark water) It didn't matter We
had to get away. We reached the shore together I laid in his arms
and stared into his eyes as I told him how much I love and miss
him. He said he is always with me and loves me dearly
dream_comments: . I awoke just then. I haven't dreamed about him
since a couple of weeks after he passed. He was real in my dreams
both times I just know it. But, I wish I knew what the dream
ment.
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Message: 486-008
Subject: The Flying Ball Contest
dream_title: The Flying Ball Contest
dream_date: June 4, 2002
dream_text: I was in Japan, at a beautiful house, when I soon
found out I was a competitor in the ball walking contest. You had
to keep rolling on top of your ball for a week, travelling through
all of Japan. It was amazing, you would fly and then, land and
bounce up and down...I was very good at the start. then, people
placed bets that I would win as I moved to first place. I was
about to roll by one of my competetitors who had already lost his
ball. It was my Grandpa. He evilly grabbed my ball and threw it
down below...into teh clouds. I was so mad, I wanted to kill him.
How could he have done such a thing to me? I sat down and because
I had already lost the race. I started to eat Dim Sum.
dream_comments: Please use my Real Name: Sophie Celeste.
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Message: 486-009
Subject: pet cat in school bus
dream_title: pet cat in school bus
dream_date: 06/6/02
dream_text: i was waiting to get on my bus when i saw my
cat,kitty, standing by my bus stop. i asked her if she wanted to
go home and she meowed and, what seemed to be, nodded. i picked
her up and got on my bus and payed. i sat down and kitty tried to
get away she kept biting me and running away. she ran upstairs to
the upper level of the bus and all the people up there were
watvhing movies about people killing each other with knifes and
they were trying to kill each other like the movies so i grabbed
her and ran down stairs. then there was this old woman on the bus
and she took kitty and said i cant look after her and said she
would take her ome with her. i let her have her for a bit and sat
down for a bit. then nearer my stop i asked if i could have her
back, she said no, so i said i would ring my mum and see what she
says cause its her cat so she gave me her back. then i said i
would let her go when we get to a road she knows, and that i
should have catched another bus.
dream_comments: please tell me what this dream means as this isnt
the first time i ve seen kitty in a dream at school
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Message: 486-010
Subject: northern flight
dream_title: northern flight
dream_date: June 4th 2002
dream_text: I was in a boat that was flying. Although I was not
driving the boat, I knew the driver (don't know who it was in real
life) We went from the water to the air, and it was in the north
for there were beautiful mountains and snow and ice, although I
was not cold at all. It was very beautiful and wonderful- very
enjoyable. I did comment that there was a frost (I live in the
farm country and am very tied to the weather), and laughed at the
fact that ofcourse there was a frost.
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Message: 486-011
Subject: The Watchers
dream_title: The Watchers
dream_date: 6/4/02
dream_text: Had a dream I was with some friends & the DEA was
spying on us everywhere we went. I remember in my dream coming
home, & they were hiding around every coner.
dream_comments: Wonder why I would have a dream like this & what
it's suppose to be trying to tell me.
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Message: 486-012
Subject: My Dad Stabbed Me
dream_title: My Dad Stabbed Me
dream_date: 3/5/2002
dream_text: It takes place in a field near my home. Me and my two
friends are being chased by my dad and so we hide behind a rock.
He looms over us at the top of the rock and in a flash he is
standing infront of us and my terrified friends desert me. My dad
then starts to stab me in my chest and abdominal area. Next minute
i am back at home in my bedroom. My sisters head pokes through the
ajar door. She asks me what is wrong and i say "Dad stabbed me "
she tells me to stop being silly and that my dad is next to her
wanting to know what is wrong. I shout at her showing her my
wounds with blood spooled out all over the floor then it ends.
dream_comments: This is strange as I have a fairly good
relationship with my dad he left My mum, sister and I when i was
18 months which is over 15 years ago. This is one in a series of
dreams I have had in the past six months concerning my dad and I
having either a fatal relationship or a sexual relationship.
Comments: 487-001
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Message: 486-013
Subject: Documentary
dream_title: Documentary
dream_date: 6/23/02
dream_text: First of all, i should give some background. See,
my mother gave birth to my oldest sister, then another little
girl: [name removed]. She tragically died of SIDS a month and a
day before her first birthday, however. Then i was born followed
by another sister.
Okay. I dreamt that i was up at my grandparents' cabin, up
north. I was on the couch watching a documentary on TV. The thing
is, it was about my family. I've seen things about my ancestors on
TV before (old New England family... don't ask), but this seemed
to be about my immediate family. More specifically, it was talking
about my mom, dad, and Margaret. It showed a picture, and they
seemed to be in rather old-fashioned clothes. They did a close-up
on my mother and started to talk about her.
They labeld her an eccentric, which is strange, because in
the waking world her sister is, but she really isn't. Then they
started talking badly about her... casting a morbid glow over her
and making her sound... almost EVIL. Then they made it out so that
it was my mother's fault that Margaret had died.
Immediately upset, i went out to the old wooden porch to find
my mother and tell her what had happened. I found her, sitting on
the porch, holding a baby. In my dream, i thought nothing of it,
though there are currently no babies in our family. I told her
that they called her an eccentric, and she laughed. Then i was
about to tell her about the accusations they had made...
And i woke up. You guys, this is really bothering me. I know
that it's not my mom's fault that my sister died, it's obvious.
But then why did i have this dream? See... i've been through quite
a lot this past year and been depressed for longer than that. But
i just got a new boyfriend and a new band, got rid of some bad
habits, and i'm finally HAPPY for the first time in a long while.
But the thing about the morbid mother... have i passed my sadness
onto my mom? I would hate to do that... i love her way too much to
want to make her sad.
Sometimes i do feel guilty for being the next born after
Margaret, if that helps any.
And my mom says that out of all of her children, she thinks
Margaret would have looked and acted the most like me.
Can anyone help me with this? I would really like to know...
dream_comments: HELP!!! PLEASE!!!!!!
comments: 486-014, 487-004
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Message: 486-014 [486-013]
Subject: Re: Documentary
Hi [name removed]:
Don't know why, but I have the rather fanky feeling that the
documentary was about a past life of your mother's in which she
caused the death of her child, and then had another baby. It
seems that in this life she had to pay her debt with [name
removed]'s death, and then you brought her joy again!
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Message: 487-001 [486-012]
Subject: Re: My Dad Stabbed Me
I had similar dreams when my parents split up a long time ago.
usually this stuff falls into Freudian categories really easily,
you may look in to that. Are either of your parents started seeing
somebody in the last six months?
[name removed]
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Message: 487-002
Subject: chase
dream_title: chase
dream_date: recurring for last few months
dream_text: Ok.... I can never remember the beginning of this
dream, all I know is I'm walking down a really long dark tunnel,
like an old railway tunnel. Even in my dream I know this is stupid
and probably a bit dangerous. I look around and I can see spots of
light on the ground which i assume comes from air vents in the
roof of the tunnel. It makes me think that it's daylight outside.
The tunnel is cool and balmy and I feel myself begin to sweat. I
have a great imagination and i start to get myself frightened, so
I begin to walk faster. Suddenly from behind me i hear a splash,
like someone has stepped in a puddle of water. I spin around but I
can't see anyone. I can hear footsteps behind me. I speed up. The
footsteps also speed up, keeping pace with me. I start to run, I
can hear him (?) running behind me. I'm running as fast as I can
but he's gaining on me. I can't breathe no matter how hard I try
and I'm crying. I feel him grab my shoulder and pull me close to
him. Then I wake up.
dream_comments: I wake up from this dream crying and scared. I
know people think chasing dreams are about procrastination but i
honestly don't think this one is. It leaves me feeling cold and
hollow and for the rest of the day after I've had it I feel on
edge. I'm scared of it. And I'm scared of going to sleep at night
in case I have it. Can anyone help me figure out what it means or
stop it?? Please?
Comments: 487-003, 488-002
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Message: 487-003 [487-003]
Subject: Re: chase
Dear [name removed],
This dream can be caused by a physical anxiety attack in your
sleep. You feel the tension mount and you begin to breathe faster,
which reinforces the dream until you wake up. Are you having
anxiety attacks during the day? That would be a good indication
that this is what's happening. Try relaxing with sloww breathing
before going to sleep, and use that technique of relaxing
different parts of your body, and this might be enough to rid you
of that excess tension.
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Message: 487-004 [486-013]
Subject: Re: Documentary
Dear [name removed],
This is similar to many dreams I've had in that it is a family
dream. When we come from self-aware families our dreams often
reflect our relatives and when we are stressed we tend to see our
relatives in our dreams. You say you have made all these good
changes in your life, but that tells me there is still some
stress. You are getting used to being happy and beleive me,
relatives are the first to interfere. So old family patterns are
coming out, in distorted form, in your dream. I wouldn't worry
about it if I were you, just enjoy your life as you have it set up
and let the relatives in the dreams gradually fade away.
-[name removed]
Message: 488-001
Subject: Spongebob
dream_title: The Mirror
dream_date: 5/29/02
dream_text: My friend Danielle and I were in a room together. In
the room there was this mirror there and there was a picture of a
guy kind of stuck there, he was really short to. We broke the
mirror into pieces, and then I took the piece out where his heart
was and said "there nows his heartless", and gave it to Danielle
as said that. But it wasnt a good thing at all that he was
heartless.And then Danielle took out the piece where his leg was
and said "there now his legless" and she handed me the piece.
that was it that was when i woke up.
dream_comments: When i gave Danielle the heart, it kind of felt
like a bad thing. Not towards the guy a bad thing towards
Danielle. It wasnt a good thing to have his heart or his leg, it
was like we were insulting eachother with it.
Comments: 488-003
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Message: 488-002 [487-002]
Subject: Re: chase
It sounds like the man in your dream represents something or
someone you have forgotten and you're feeling that you should
remember. Your dream was probably your conscience trying to solve
a really old problem.
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Message: 488-003 [488-001]
Subject: Re: Spongebob
Have you and Danielle been fighting lately? Whether you were or
not, sometimes the things that people say to each other every day
can be hurting their feelings and neither of them wants to say
anything. It can be something simple, like you looking at a
pretty girl when you're with her, or her being more sensitive
than you can understand. That could have been what the dream
meant. You were both tearing each other apart. Mirrors only show
what's in front of them.
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Message: 488-004
Subject: Teeth falling out
dream_title: Teeth falling out
dream_date: 06/06/02
dream_text: I had a very vivid and disturbing dream where my teeth
kept falling out. They would be fracturing in my mouth or they
would become wobbly and I would eventually spit them into my
hand, hoping that it would stop, and feeling relief that it
would, but it didnt.
dream_comments: This dream was particularly vivid and I actually
woke up thinking I didnt have any teeth, except my front ones
left. Can you help me interpret this - I am at a loss.
Comments: 488-005
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Message: 488-005 [488-004]
Subject: Re: Teeth falling out
I remember reading more than once that dreams of teeth falling out
are a symbol of loss of control. Maybe there is a situation in
your life you feel you are losing control over. Hope that helps.
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Message: 489-001
Subject: Girlfriend Kills Me
dream_title: Girlfriend Kills Me
dream_date: Re-acurring
dream_text: I am having re-acurring dreams about my girlfriend
cheating on me. We are very close, and are considering marriage.
Once we both complete college. In the dreams we are often having
sex (we haven't yet) and then she will get a knife or my gun and
shoot me. Other times she ties me to a tree, and burns me. With
she has sex with other men. During the dreams it feels real, i
can feel the heat. One night I woke up with a knife to my throat.
I am not suicidal. and i do not need to go to a "looney bin."
Please help.
Comments: 489-002, 490-002
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Message: 489-002 [489-001]
Subject: Re: Girlfriend Kills Me
Dear [name removed],
You are certainly right that you do not need to go to a
"looney bin". When you're facing a big moment like marriage, it
would be abnormal NOT to have disturbing dreams. These dreams
reflect the pent-up emotions and anxiety that are natural to this
time of your life. You say you and your betrothed have not had sex
yet. That is contributing to your anxiety, anticipation mixed with
fear. All very normal. Death in a dream often symbolizes
transformation. Your bride is about to transform you into a new
man, a husband. Killing off your old self. Not to worry. The
rewards of a loving marriage are many, and you have those rewards
ahead of you. Relax!
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Message: 490-001
Subject: cheating
dream_title: cheating
dream_date: june 9 2002
dream_text: went t0 the house and find my boyfriend whit a girl on
the bed we fight
comments: 490-003
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Message: 490-002 [490-002]
Subject: Re: Girlfriend Kills Me
Could it be possible that you don't want to marry your girlfriend?
Or maybe you're not ready for marriage just yet? That's one thing
that could cause that kind of dream.
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Message: 490-003 [490-001]
Subject: Re: cheating
Your dream sounds like one fof those dreams that reflect your
innermost fears. You're probably so close to your boyfriend that
you're becoming a little insecure about his feelings for you.
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Message: 490-004
Subject: RED CAPE OWL
dream_title: RED CAPE OWL
dream_date: 06/06/2002
dream_text: I had a dread that the sky was pretty and I looked up
and there was a huge owl with a red cape floating in the air.
Comments: 491-001
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Message: 490-005
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Message: 491-001 [490-004]
Subject: Re: RED CAPE OWL
You know the whole idea of your dream reminds me of a nocturnal
form of Little Red Riding Hood.
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Message: 491-002
Subject: [name removed] (my crush)
dream_title: [name removed] (my crush)
dream_date: 5/11/02
dream_text: Me and [name removed](one of my friends) were playing
at [name removed]'s house(my other friend)and [name removed] came
and said to me "will you marry me and I'm only 10?" I siad "yes"
and I siad to him "I love you."And then my dad woke me up.
dream_comments: I was really sad becuase it was just a dream!
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Message: 491-003
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Message: 491-004
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Message: 491-005
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Message: 491-006
Subject: eyes stairrng
dream_title: eyes stairrng
dream_date: 06/11/02
dream_text: Bats looking down at me from my bedroom ceiling.
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Message: 491-007
Subject: Eating Soap
dream_title: Eating Soap
dream_date: 6/9/02
dream_text: I had a dream that I wa eating soap, but only the
fruity kind. I rember that it tasted good and smelled like
different kinds of fruit...raspberry, apple and mango.(Yes, I ate
three bars) but the other types smelled like soap so I wouldn't
eat them. (oatmeal,aloe, ect... My friend warned me I would get
diharea, But I didn't.
dream_comments: My mother washed my mouth out with soap. I am in
the process of hiring a large number of staff for work.
Comments: 492-001
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Message: 491-008
Subject: i wish i was dead
dream_title: i wish i was dead
dream_date: the night before sept 11
dream_text: i have only just found this site, so i don't know if
there have been alot of dreams like this, or hoaxes, but i am not
a liar here...
most of the dream is very vauge, and fragmented because dreams are
usually hard to remember...
from what i remember i was walking through a street, which kinda
looked like what i would imagine egypt or somewhere sandy/dusty
would look with some old friends which i had not seen in a while.
After walking one way down a street, i found myself in a big car
park with a huge glass building on one side (my friends where
still there, i seem to remember them speaking but i cant remember
for the life of me what it was they were saying). As i slowly
approached the glass building it, *and i remember this bit soooo
clearly* an airplane painted with the stars and stripes crashed
into it... then i woke...
the morning after, i felt like shit. i went out to delivered some
things as a favour to a freind, when i arrived home i switched on
the TV and saw my dream... it was like something from the X files
or something, i was shaken up quite alot, and havent shared it
with anyone really...
i guess it's too late now...
dream_comments: i have spoken to others who had simular dreams
that same night, some dreamed they were inside a huge colpsing
buildling... some had dreams like mine...
i leave my e-mail here for others who have been touched by the
events of sept 11th in any way, although i respectfully request
you not send abuse or viruses *thank you*
"El_Bristow@REMOVETOSENDhotmail.com"
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Message: 492-001 [491-007]
Subject: Re: Eating Soap
Do you have chronic illnesses, like colds, upper respiratory
infections, asthma attacks, or maybe serious allergies? That's
one thing that would make you feel the need to eat healthy food.
You could also feel the need for that particular food group if
you're having digestive problems. I'm wondering if maybe the fact
that you didn't have diarrhea in your dream could be for that
reason. I really don't want to be too specific here so hopefully
you know what i mean.
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Message: 492-002
Subject: Moonlight walk
dream_title: Moonlight walk
dream_date: reoccuring
dream_text: I have a reoccuring dream that I am walking along the
tower of a large wooden castle set in the middle of the ocean.
There is no land under or around the castle; it just rises out of
the ocean. Also, there is no doors on the castle, only windows.
It is nighttime and the sky is pitch black with no stars but it
does have a large silver full moon hung low in the sky. As I walk
I stare out at the moon's reflection on the ocean's calm rippling
surface.
Comments: 494-002
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Message: 492-003
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Message: 492-004
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Message: 492-005
Subject: getting married
dream_title: getting married
dream_date: 061102
dream_text: i saw my self getting married with white man but he
never show up in church but when everybody was gone.the whit man
shoew up. and i was just crying and crying. and by the way i'm
hispanic
comments: 494-003
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Message: 493-001
Subject: TORNADOS
dream_title: TORNADOS
dream_date: 6/8/02
dream_text: I was at my house and it was in the gunis book of
world recards for the strongest house that nothing could knock
down.It was made of bricks,cement,and glass for the windows.Well
we (as in me ,mom,dad,my brothers and my best friends chyna and
savanah)were waching the news and it said there would be over
10000 tornados on 67 tornado drive.(witch was our adress)Then
belive it or not we were here in the safest place on earth during
a tornado. And my parents told us it would be safer to go outside.
So we went outside and tried to douge more then 10000 tornados.
dream_comments: The wierd part is that it didn't even seem like a
nightmare!
Comments: 494-005
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Message: 493-002
Subject: Two Falls in One Night
dream_title: Two Falls in One Night
dream_text: One night I dreamed I was running and I was heading
straight for a cliff.I went off the cliff and I was falling and
the ground below me turned into spikes.Just s I was about to hit
them I woke up and it felt as if the bed was falling. I went
back to sleep again and this time when I went off the cliff I fell
in the water.It surrounded me cutting off my air.When I couldn't
breahe completley I woke up and my face was in my pillow.
dream_comments: I have these same dreams almost once a month.It's
always the same thing and I always wake up before I hit the
spikes.The weird thing is that was the first time I had both
dreams in one night.I can't figure out why!
Comments: 494-004
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Message: 493-003
Subject: I dream.
When I dream its usually about running from something.I never see
what it is but I am running.I do sometimes get a falling feeling
like I am falling threw empty space.I have had lunchs in my
dreams with people like meg ryan who in real life would probally
avoid me......more on dreaming later.....
comments: 494-001, 494-006
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Message: 494-001 [493-003]
Subject: Re: I dream.
I had running fearful dreams many years ago and it continued for
quite awhile. It bugged me. I was told to confront it. But
couldn't seem to. When I stopped running and confronted what it,
it stopped reacurring. The upside was I felt strong the next day
like I had a victory. [name removed]
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Message: 494-002 [492-002]
Subject: Re: Moonlight walk
All I know about full moons is that they mean and cause trouble.
The full moon reflecting on the calm water could represent a
problem that arises at the least expected moment.
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Message: 494-003 [492-005]
Subject: Re: getting married
I had that dream once, only when the guy didn't show up, my
father, or someone I think was my father, made me get engaged to
someone else. It was after that and after everyone left when the
groom showed up. The whole dream got really confusing.
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Message: 494-004 [493-002]
Subject: Re: Two Falls in One Night
I can't say what falling in a dream means, but I've had a few
falling dreams myself. It's amazing how a person always wakes up
just before the dream turns fatal. And also how sometimes dreams
tell you if you're uncomfortable. The part about you suffocating
and then waking up with yoru face in the pillow reminds me of how
sometimes I dream that everyone around me is using the bathroom
and I wake up having to go. I do wish I had my dream dictionary on
hand, though, that falling stuff sounds intriguing.
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Message: 494-005 [493-001]
Subject: Re: TORNADOS
Tornados represent disaster, and the fact that you weren't afraid
meant that whatever may be coming or may be already happening is
something that you're definitely strong enough to handle and you
have no reason to worry.
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Message: 494-006 [493-003]
Subject: Re: I dream.
They say when you are running from something specific, you should
try to remember to turn around during the dream and ask whoever
or whatever you're running from what they want. After doing this,
you usually wake up knowing exactly what the whole dram meant, no
matter how confused you were in the dream. If you're running from
nothing, it means that you're being too cautious with your life
and you need to take more risks, even if it means facing things
that you feel you may not be strong enough for.
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Message: 494-007
Subject: spreading my ashes
dream_title: spreading my ashes
dream_date: June 9, 2002
dream_text: My dream starts with me running through a beautiful
yellow field, maybe wheat. I am exuberant, very happy and
carefree, smiling and laughing and NUDE! My husband is running
after me as I look back at him; a very pleasant, soothing and
carefree feeling. Suddenly I look up to the left where there is
an old, delapidated house, it is white and evident that it hasn't
been painted in 30 years & in complete disrepair. I immediately
see a man in the window in the top of the house. He is mean,
scary, and frightening! I panic & immediately convince my
husband to help me get rid of the evidence that we were ever
there. I insisted that we pull the field up (& we did) like
pulling a "wall-to-wall" carpet up from all corners of the a
floor (in this case, the entire feild)and folded it over & and
over like a blanket. Next, I'm still so frightened that he'll
find out so I convince my husband that we MUST cremate my body
and secretly spread the ashes over plants and in soil of some
sort of green house. As my husband & I are spreading my ashes I
notice that the ashes are not normal looking, instead it looks
like tiny peices of paper stuck together, something like you
might find from a mouse or squirrel nest. I was afraid during the
dream but also disconnected or "numb". It didn't seem unordinary
or odd that I was spreading my ashes.
dream_comments: The house is the house I grew up in, I remember
the field close to my house. The man is my step-father who was
horribly physically abusive. I have had similar dreams in the
past about dying and secretly geeting rid of my body before he or
anyone else found out.
Comments: 494-008, 494-009, 495-001
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Message: 494-008 [494-007]
Subject: Re: spreading my ashes
Perhaps you saw yourself as dirty or unclean, unloveable or
unworthy. Its sounds like you suffered a lot. I think running
through a feild naked is a sign of real freedom. The yellow
something radiant new and beautiful. Your new life with your
husband must be wonderful for you till you remember the past. Its
ok to feel free. Your dream is amazing and directive. Burn up the
images of the old you. Its the past. Spread the ashes and no
longer be ashamed. The beautiful radiant new you is your
inheritance. You are worthy,loveable and wonderful. >
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Message: 494-009 [494-007]
Subject: Re: spreading my ashes
I'm not a dream interperater by any means, but this dream sounds
to me like you still have many issues around the abuse you
suffered during childhood that need to be explored..perhaps
through therapy, or maybe even journaling on your own. It sounds
like maybe these awful memories come up at the most innoppertune
times...here you are running naked through a field, carefree,
having a peaceful happy day with your husband, and you run smack
dab into your old house with your abusive stepfather in it,
watching for you, waiting for some sign of you so he can hurt you
again. It's not enough for you to leave the area, you feel you
need to erase every sign that you were ever in
existance, not only
remove the field you were running in, but even destroying your
body and hiding the ashes by way of scattering them.
Psychologically speaking, it's common for victims of abuse to not
want any sense of self, to not look in mirrors, to not define
their own personalities very well. It seems some part of you
would rather not have existed than to have suffered such outrages
at the hands of an adult who should have been loving toward you.
If you are able, next time you dream, try to realise you are
dreaming. This is called "lucid dreaming", where the dreamer is
aware that they are asleep and dreaming within the dream. Some
people can do it easily by telling themselves before falling
asleep "I will know I'm dreaming tonight within my dream." Some
people like me only get a gift of a lucid dream now and then, no
matter how hard we try. The point I am getting to is...this is
YOUR dream. You are not a child any more, and this person can't
hurt you now. In YOUR dream, you don't have to run or hide from
this creep. You can deal with him as you see fit. In your dream,
you are the director, you are in control. You can curse him out,
laugh at him, burn his house down if you want. It's time for you
to own your whole life and give this man no more power over you.
I'm not a therapist, and most dreams, though I enjoy reading them,
I never respond to. But something about yours touched me and told
me to tell you to try this approach. Best of luck and thank you
for sharing such a painful experience.
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Message: 494-010
Subject: wonder ...
dream_title: wonder ...
dream_date: 8/6-2oo2
dream_text: I was i a jungle with the most beautiful birds in the
world all the colours were so strong and emotional .... i had
this white feather every were i was even when i changed dream...
i't was a world of harmony ..
dream_comments: the thing was that this dream was the night i
became 20 .. so some how i think it had it's meaning
comments: 495-002, 495-006
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Message: 494-011
Subject: marring a old man with lots of money
dream_title: marring a old man with lots of money
dream_date: 6/14/02
dream_text: I was marring a old man with lots of money. When I
told my parents that I was getting married they told me is that
what u want to do.the thing was I was wearing a purple dress and
shoes.when I was getting married I had my period.and my fiance
was worried about my cramps.it was taken care of by my bridal
party. My dress was beautiful. White that came down on the
shoulders. Then after the marriage my husband ask me if when are
we going to have kids.I said not yet. Then my sister brought me a
cake for my graduation.
dream_comments: MY MOTHER SAID THat my dream means that someone is
going to die.
Comments: 495-003
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Message: 494-012
Subject: dreams
Had a dream last night about looking for my 57 chev.I looked
everywhere and could not find it.I seem to be searching for
something.Could it be myself.......who knows.....[name removed]
comments: 495-004
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Message: 494-013
Subject: Theft
dream_title: Theft
dream_date: 6/13/02
dream_text: I was in a movie theater, using an ATM machine. The
screen of the machine was huge, when I scanned my card, it
displayed all my personal information. A lady came up beside me
and started writing down all my information. When I tried to stop
her, another lady stole my purse. I tried to chase her and the
dream jumped to a later time. This time I was trying to make a
purchase at a KMart store when my card was declined. I called the
bank and they said my balance was $0 when it should have been over
$1000. Then I woke up.
dream_comments: I was under no stress at the time of this dream.
I was at home, alone and comfortable in my bed at the time.
Comments: 495-005, 495-007
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Message: 495-001 [494-007]
Subject: Re: spreading my ashes
Your stepfather must have been a really scary man. It sounds like
you were afraid he was going to kill you.
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Message: 495-002 [494-010]
Subject: Re: wonder ...
You must be happy about your age. Your dream represents a lot of
freedom, but wherever you go you seem to take your best memories
with you. That's the best way to live.
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Message: 495-003 [494-011]
Subject: Re: marring a old man with lots of money
I don't think that anyone is necessarily going to die, but it
sounds like there have been a lot of signifigant changes in your
life. Sometimes when there are a lot of changes people tend to
wonder what'll happen next, what will become of them. You're
probably still in that phase where you don't know what you're
going to do with your future so you're dreaming things as an
easier way to rule them out.
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Message: 495-004 [494-012]
Subject: Re: dreams
Maybe you're searching for yourself, or maybe you need a change in
your life. I would try doing something I've never done before, or
in your case, something I never would have wanted to do in the
year 1957.
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Message: 495-005 [494-013]
Subject: Re: Theft
Nobody feels stressed when they're dreaming about stress. That's
what makes dreams so safe. It sounds like you're fearing money
problems. Like I said, somethimes people dream about their
stressors so they won't seem as bad during the day.
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Message: 495-006 [494-010]
Subject: Re: wonder ...
> Birds speak about blessings. A jungle is mysterious, but if no
one knows you are there then its really safe. Did you see the
white feather as a sign of your own purity or cleansing. Or were
you holding it on behalf of another who was pure. Like the dove of
the Holy Spirit. Peace, Safety and Hope are wonderful allies.
Harmony and balance also walk hand in hand. I believe you have a
lot to offer the world, and I pray you will reap the benifits of
it.
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Message: 495-007 [494-013]
Subject: Re: Theft
If we look at our dreams in clusters we can sometimes see a
theme. This one seems to suggest financial pressure. Though you
have savings its not enough when you need it. Theres always
something more you want or somebody else that wants it. The next
dream you marry a wealthy old man. Financial pressure is gone, but
could you live in a relationship like this where love is not the
focus. Would your integrity be wounded or would you be fine? The
third dream is marvellous. You feel inspired, emotionally charged,
Capeable, clean and you are alone. Trt not to look to external
circumstances for answers. Often they are daunting and negative.
Try to be patient,having a goal for our life is important, but it
doesnt have to come to pass first before you feel fulfilled. Dont
look to others to fulfil your needs or you feel ripped off.
Remember, in "wonder" Its you who feels great and its you who have
the answers within you. You are enjoying yourself and your self
feels fulfilled.
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Message: 495-008
Subject: My Daughter , my angel
dream_title: My Daughter , my angel
dream_date: 6-5-02
dream_text: The dream i had was so very real as if i were right
there with my baby girl.She was in heaven and i was there with
her but i could not see what heaven looked like we were in a room
by ourself, she said mommy god told me i had something wrong with
my heart and my daughter took her hand and placed my hand over
her heart i could feel the skipped beats, and i said oh my god he
is right i feel it. I got to hold my little girl and give her a
kiss, i asked her if she was happy and she said "oh yes mommy it
wonderful here we get to play all the time".I then dreamed that
she was here on earth with us for a moment and she threw her
hairbows away in the garbage can that i kept in her room. I
wanted to look and see which ones she had kept so i would know
what to not throw away but she had thrown them all away.
dream_comments: I lost my eight and half year old daughter in oct,
1997 to an unsuccessful bone marrow transplant that went terribly
wrong my baby hemorrhaged to death. I will never forgive myself
for this for i should have been more hesitant about the
transplant, but i wasn't please help me to understand what this
dream means. Yes use my real email
address,fanninedna@hotmail.com i would like to hear from others
who have lost a child. Thank you.
Comments: 495-009, 496-001, 496-004, 496-006
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Message: 495-009 [495-008]
Subject: Re: My Daughter , my angel
Dear [name removed],
It's not uncommon to have a "heaven" dream of loved ones that have
passed on. I believe it is the spirit of our loved ones re-
assuring us that they are fine and happy in the afterlife. Accept
this dream as a visit from your little girl. Maybe the gesture of
throwing away the little hairbows was a way of letting you know
it's allright to let go.
I lost twins in a miscarriage. Ever since then twins, usually
adult, have been a frequent element in my dreams. I accept them as
spirit guides who are there to reassure me about my own life.
May you be blessed in this life and always,
[name removed]
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Message: 496-001 [495-008]
Subject: Re: My Daughter , my angel
Iam mad that you didnt help me. No offence but I asked where to
write to. Becuase my letters come from msn not yahoo.
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Message: 496-002
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Message: 496-003
Subject: really horrible nightmare
dream_title: really horrible nightmare
dream_date: a couple of times. the week begining 10th june
dream_text: i keep having dreams that me and various other people
have to hide because people are trying to shhot us with guns. my
brother has been in all of the dreams and in the first one he
actually got shot in the arm but this has not happened since.
dream_comments: they are keeping me awake. they are really scaring
me
comments: 496-007
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Message: 496-004 [495-008]
Subject: Re: My Daughter , my angel
Thank you for sharing such a painful experience. Please know you
will be in my prayers tonight. I cannot imagine what a loss you
have suffered. I wonder if you ever watch the TV show called
"Crossing Over with John Edward" He claims to be a medium that
can communicate with spirits of people crossed over to the other
side. I read his book, "One Last Time" and I think it would be
comforting to you. I don't know if I fully believe in what he
says, but he seems to be sincere, and his TV show is amazing. If
he is faking it, he is the best fooler I've seen. Mr. Edward says
that lost loved ones do visit us in dreams...and you can tell the
difference between a wish fullfillment dream of seeing your lost
loved one and a visit from their spirit by the dream's intensity
and vividness. I guess that means if it seems very real, it was
probably the spirit of your lost loved one wanting to cantact you
to let you know they are all right and to express their love. John
Edward's show is in the SciFi channel on cable, and he also has a
website. I wish you peace and will pray that the Lord will help
your heart heal and help you to forgive yourself. God bless you.
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Message: 496-005
Subject: baby and me
dream_title: baby and me
dream_date: 6-14-2002
dream_text: I was seeing a babies face really close up...I know it
had to be my child because I was breast feesing the child. But
the thing is I have no children yet. I would see myself breast
feeding then the babies face up close like it was really real.
dream_comments: Please help me figure out what this dream means.
Comments: 496-008
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Message: 496-006 [495-008]
Subject: Re: My Daughter , my angel
Your dream sounds really interesting. It's like your daughter is
trying to reach out to you and tell you not to feel bad about the
transplant because she really died because of something else. And
to tell you the truth, I don't think you should feel bad either.
You agreed to the transplant to keep her alive. It's not your
fault the whole thing was botched up. God might have just needed
her in Heaven with Him.
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Message: 496-007 [496-003]
Subject: Re: really horrible nightmare
I've heard of dreams like yours before. When they're recurrent,
they usually signify an extra sensory warning of some sort. I
guess you can focus on your brother, since he was in all of the
dreams. But you said he was shot in the arm, which probably means
that if he gets hurt at all, it'll be in his arm. It doesn't
necessarily mean he'll get shot, he might just break his arm or
scar it. Dreams like yours are usually symbols, so it might not
even be your brother, maybe just someone you consider to be like
a brother. But the arm part sounds definite.
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Message: 496-008 [496-005]
Subject: Re: baby and me
Babies speak of new things. A new job or direction in life.
Something of great importance to you. Because you were feeding and
nurturing it, it appears you have desired this new thing and are
deserving of it. Be excited about it! But remember that in the
dream it was a baby and some things can still take years to reach
fruitition. Once I had a dream about a baby and after it was
caught up into heaven. This was a few years ago. Recently someone
gave us a word of propheshy saying "Does the word baby mean
anything to you?" My wife can't have anymore children so I
believe we have our baby back. Someone just came up and gave us a
car and said God told them to. Some old doors have closed for us
and new ones have opened. Very exciting. Be ready something great
is going to happen
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Message: 497-001
Subject: my mind is playing tricks on me
dream_title: my mind is playing tricks on me
dream_date: 6/15/02
dream_text: I'm in my old home town (L.A.) and I'm with my mother
and some unfamiliar kids, which in the dreams seem like my
nephews and nieces. We are shopping in a grocery store putting
things in the cart. We approach the cashier and my mother and I
begin to argue, for whatever reason, in front of everyone. I
start to raise my voice to the point where I start to make a
scene. Then a man tries to break us up, I start to run outside. I
'm running from my mother and this strange man. I hide for few
moments to take my agression on a window, but I have no strength.
My punches feel like I'm under water. Then I run, again being
chased by my mother and this strange man. But I have no speed at
all. I try hard but again, it feels like I under water. When I
reach a street their is a midnight blue pick up with two young
men in it. I get in the bed of the truck and yell" Go!, Go!" They
speed off and I see my mom and this man getting smaller and
smaller. The two men do not acknowledge me yet. I notice that we
are heading south, passing parks with lakes in them. I look at me
feet and am aware that I wearing black slippers and see another
pair of shoes, which fontunately fit me. I throw the pair of old
slippers out and just then an un marked police car speeds up
behind us. As we reach a light the police man turns right. As we
are driving south I notice that it's beigiining to look a lot like
Pasadena,CA. Just then we reach a brand new apartment complex. And
I get out to thank the men but they walk up the stairs to an
apartment. I follow them into the apartment. As we walk in I see
at least two dozen teenagers. None of them question who I am or
where I came from nor do the two yound men that drove me there.
They all decide to go to the park and play soccer, with out any
question I follow them. Once we get to the park there are a group
of us, at least thirty and they all seem to know each other like
they have been together for years. They still don't question my
existance but rather accept me. We divide into two teams. Just
then one of the boys lights up a pipe of marijuana. It's a pipe I
have never seen before or know how to use. Everyone gets a hit
accept me they purposely skip me. I then tell the boy that
started the rotation that I am from Phoenix,Az, which in reality
is true. I tell him that in Arizona we don't care who you are if
you are new or not we allow you to participate in the smoke
session. For some resaon I feel left out and offended. He tells
me that everytime a new person enters their rotation they smoke
it all up. We play soccer for a short while and I notice that
there are professional soccer players playing in the next field.
After we play we all go back to the apartment. I notice that in
the apartment are all my Compact discs and a stereo. To break the
ice, because I still haven't introduced my self, I beigin to play
the DJ role with my cd's. As I'm playing the cd's another smoke
session begins and once again I 'm not included. Just then
someone says "pass it to Sean" or "let Sean have a hit" somethig
of that
dream_comments: My mom and I have been arguing lately. I just re
organized my cd collection playing songs I fogot I had. The world
cup is going on right now. And this song, Ironic or not?
Comments: 497-002
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Message: 497-002 [497-001]
Subject: Re: my mind is playing tricks on me
It sounds like your dream just shows a lot of tension concerning
you rmother. It also shows that you feel socially insecure, and
people who feel that way usually do blend with pot smokers
because they don't judge others. But I've found that when I have
dreams like that it's best not to dwell on what the dream means
because it would only lead to more of them. And if a person has
too many dreams like yours, they begin to lose touch with reality.
It might also help you to confront your mother in the dream if it
occurs again. Then you would have a better idea of why you want
to break windows while fighting with her.
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Message: 497-003
Subject: family betrayal
dream_title: family betrayal
dream_date: June16
dream_text: To me, the main part was my mother taking my wardrobe,
with all my clothes, and my brother taking all my old diaries.
They seemed to be conspiring together, against me. I confronted
my mother about why I moved out (which I did three weeks ago) and
told her about by on-going depression. My flat was joined onto a
part of my high school (I finished there last year) and there
were black spiders all over the place. I wasn't sure if they
were alive or dead. I took comfort in the company of my old drama
teacher, (who I am still friends with in real life, despite a 23
yr age diference)There was a wierd sexual attraction between us
that is not there in real life. Generally, I felt that my family
were being cruel, and I couldn't comprehend why they were doing
it.
dream_comments: the dram confused me because my relationship with
my old drama teacher has never been sexual, despite friends
teasing me, and saying differently. I am generally upset with my
family, but we are still amicable, it seemed that my annoyance at
them was all let out in my dream.
Comments: 498-003
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Message: 497-0042
Subject: picking one out of two.
dream_title: picking one out of two.
dream_date: may 23,2002
dream_text: I had a dream that this little girl that happen to be
my crushes little sister told me that he already has a
girlfriend. Then the next day I had a dream that I got a job that
in reality I felt that I wasn't going to get. So on the morning
of the third day I made my decision to wish upon the dream of the
guy that I liked instead of the job, then by the third week of
the next day the guy I liked made me confess about my feelings
for him and then he kissed me and it turned out that I didn't get
the job that I went to an interview for but I got the guy.
dream_comments: and now things are not really going great with my
new guy, and I feel like I made the wrong choice please help me
with my guilt?
Comments: 498-004
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Message: 498-001
Subject: water and wind
dream_title: water and wind
dream_date: 6/14/2002
dream_text: I was in a pool full of water witch was completly
clear like air. I know that it was water becaes it has some tiny
ripples in it. But while i was floating in this pool i could feel
wind just rusing at me but it wasnt like a current or anything
just like a nice little breeze coming through. the water went
away and i was lying in a field that was completly flat and look
like it lasted forever. There was one tree i guess it was in the
middle but i dont really know where the middle was. Then i felt
like i was sinking and i was in the pool again but this time the
grass and tree were on top or the water. at times i could stand
on the grass and dive and be in the water and i could try to
touch the tree but i would be back in the water.
dream_comments: i dont now if this was a lucid dream becasue i
dont really know much about them. This dream was also during the
day.
Comments: 498-005, 500-001
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Message: 498-002
Subject: Chicken and Cat in Water
dream_title: Chicken and Cat in Water
dream_date: 6/6/2002
dream_text: There was a round pan of sorts with very clear water
in it. The color such a you see in pictures of exotic islands.
The water was boiling hot. In the pan was a white chiken facing
about 10 o'clock and also at about the 10 o'clock position in the
pan. Also in the pan was a white cat also facing the same
direction but in about the 3 o'clock position of the pan. Both
are about neck deep in the water. I am standing at the botton of
the pan holding yet another white chicken by the legs as it was
hanging downward. This chicken was wet as if it had also been in
the water. ALL the animals were ALIVE but not uttering a sound.
They do not seem to be any pain. But I have the feeling that
they are suffering. Remember something about chopping the head
off the chicken I was holding but never get it done because I
woke up.
Also at time when I close my eyes to go to sleep. I will see an
eye which then recedes back a ways and I can see the face of an
Owl. And also the side view of a hawk will sometimes appear. I
get the feeling that it has something to do with the eyes.
dream_comments: Not sure what any of this means. Can remember as
a kid have to butcher chickens. After slitting their throat we
used to dunk them in hot water to make the feather pull off
easily. As for the Owl and Hawk don't understand that either. Sure
wish I had some idea what this is all about. I have some very
strange dreams and some are very scary.
Comments: 498-006, 499-004
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Message: 498-003 [497-003]
Subject: Re: family betrayal
You're right. Your annoyance at them was included in the dream as
well as every worry you've had involving them. They sound like
really crazy people. I hope things work out okay for you.
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Message: 498-004 [497-004]
Subject: Re: picking one out of two.
I think your guilt is mainly based on your dream. You're probably
worrying that you misinterpreted it. But dreams are very
complicated in the way they work. Sometimes dreams show you
things backwards, like a baby means death and someone dying means
a new baby. But sometimes a baby means new life....you see what I
mean? But the fact that your crush didn't have a girlfriend means
that you definitely did the right thing. Sometimes a dream's main
purpose is to influence important choices or even show us what
would happen if we made the wrong one. It could be possible that
if you waited around for your job, your crush would have found a
girlfriend and you would have been left with nothing. Trust me,
you made the right choice.
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Message: 498-005 [498-001]
Subject: Re: water and wind
Your dream is classic symbolism. Water means new life, but from
what i gather it sounds like you were dreaming about an island.
Maybe you should take a vacation. It might give you some time to
think about your life and the changes, if any, you want to make.
You might feel like moving, changing jobs, or maybe even going
into the dating world, if you haven't already.
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Message: 498-006 [498-002]
Subject: Re: Chicken and Cat in Water
My grandpa had a dream once that he saw a specific time of day in
his head. Right after that dream, he got a call from me at that
time that he saw and I was telling him that he did not get his
license, which was a real tragedy for him. You kept saying that
the animals were facing clock postions, which I found
interesting. It could be possible that at 3:50 in the morning or
afternoon something bad might happen. As for the eye thing,
whatever will happen might be something unexpected, but what you
said about butchering animals makes me wonder if this could all
be about someone you worked with when you were butchering the
animals. It also could be anyone you knew in your childhood. But
I wouldn't worry about it, especially if you're taking
antibiotics or anti anxiety medication. That will cause weird
dreams that have no meaning whatsoever and are just plain
annoying.
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Message: 498-007
Subject: three meteors
I had a dream a few nights ago that nasa found out that a meteor
was headed toward Earth and it were so big that we had to blow it
up so the parts would scatter. So nasa sent one of their men to
this place where the meteor were coming from, as if the meteor
was an act of terrorism. But the astronaut got there and was
going to disable some kind of bomb that they had created and were
going to launch at Earth, and he kept goofing off and talking to
himself and playing around in the dirt for so long that the bomb
launched anyway. I was just standing around watching this as if
it were some kind of movie. Then I was floating through space and
I saw that there wasn't just one meteor, there were three. I
heard someone say that Earth was doomed, even though I was alone
in space. My last thought was that this could be part of the
apocalypse and then I woke up.
I remember when I was a kid nasa found a meteor and they said on
the news that it would destroy the world if it got here, and my
mom just told me that if it got too close they would use their
instruments and technology to move it. I haven't thought about
this kind of thing since then.
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Message: 499-001
#ed.note: message removed (non-dream post)#
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Message: 499-002
Subject: Death
dream_title: Death
dream_date: 2 weeks ago
dream_text: in my dream i die 3 different ways. But I'm save in 2
ways but in both 2 i was badly hurt,because i saw my best friends
die on the way to see me.But each way i die different friends
die,and it all happens up at my familys cabin on the porch were
the people I love pull up and get out of the car and stand and
watch in huor trying to save me,and I'm wearing all white.
Keeping eye contact with them
1.I cut my rest.
2.I take a hole bottle of asperin and down it with a bottle of
Jack Dales.
3. as they pull up I look at them and I jump off the pouch.
When they save me.
1.The boy I love get's out of the car and look at me and he tells
me how much he loves me and don't do it.and I look at him and
don't, and he run up to save me and we start to talk and walk.( I
was going to jump that time)
2.As I was go to drink the Jack Danles a boy I really care forjump
out the car and yelled stop and told me the loved me, and I look
and him and just droped to the floor and I woke up in his harms
and he was scared to death to see me go but I lived
THEN I WOKE UP
dream_comments: When I woke up I was crying to my self. PLESE IF
ANY KNOWS WHAT THIS DREAM MEANS E-MAIL ME AT
LovelySmilez411@msn.com
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Message: 499-003
Subject: village of conversion
#ed.note: stan asks that his name and email remain with his post#
stan kulikowski ii <stankuli@etherways.com>
DATE : 18 jun 2002 08:37 DREAM : village of conversion
=( yesterday was a monday, which is my one long day of teaching
each week for the first part of this summer term. i have a class
that begins just before 10:00 in the morning and one that ends at
21:10. i got home feeling tired as i had to lead two brainstorms
exercises which is hard work for the leader of the session. i
went right to bed about 23:00 but had difficulty getting to sleep.
my left shoulder has been aching from some ailment for many months
and does not seem to be getting any better on its own. my ability
to lift it is limited to about 45 degrees, so i have started twice
weekly massage treatments with my friend julius. the massage
sessions are not very comfortable, but that is to be expected as
it will take a while to relieve the frozen shoulder. around 02:00
i woke with my shoulder hurting. it seems worse when i lay down,
so i sat up and did some computer work for a couple hours. around
04:30 i tried to get to sleep, but found that my mother had set
the air conditioner back to 75. she does not seem to remember or
maybe believe that i can sleep well only at 70 or lower. that
seems too cold for her. i reset the thermometer and it took
almost an hour for the house to cool enough for me to get back to
sleep. )=
i am waiting patiently on the front step of the porch from my
house. down the street i can see my two friends coming for me.
they are moving on the sidewalk very carefully, one slow step at a
time.
a few minutes and they make it to my house. with a sigh of relief
the first then the other jump up on the porch where i have been
waiting for them.
"ready to go?" the first asks me. i shake my head in agreement
and the three of us prepare to leave the porch. the other young
man goes over to the step and peers down at the sidewalk for a
moment.
all of the sidewalks are made of a thin white corrugated plastic
extending between side rails of concrete. normally the rippling
waves of the corrugation stretch from side to side, at right
angles to your direction of travel. the waves are of cross
purpose, opposing the direction of movement upon the sidewalk.
you can stand still on the cross grain, but if you start to walk a
poison is released and within a few yards you will sicken and die.
if you try to step off of the white sidewalks, you get a toxic
shock that will kill you immediately.
the only way to get around in the village is to follow a convert,
like my two friends here. certain people, if they stare at the
sidewalk and concentrate, can cause the corrugation in a local
stretch to turn ninety degrees which forms a channel in the
direction you want to walk. upon this it is safe to move from
place to place.
but it slow going. with my friend in the front paving the way for
the three of us, it takes us about 10 minutes to move 100 meters.
the other young man who is also a convert that can pave the way is
resting on this trip outward from my house. he did the conversion
getting to me, and now needs a break or he might lose his
concentration on the way. normally a convert would rest at any
destination for an hour or two before starting out again, but
today we were in hurry so they decided to double team the task.
after another 15 minutes or so, we arrive at an intersection of
several sidewalks in the town. a couple city officials are
present, standing around the prone bodies of five people who died
on the path.
large kills like this are fairly uncommon. it seems that four of
them were trying to crowd into the path following a single convert
who got too tired to continue the journey. panic spread once the
last man in line got too sick and fell over cramping. a couple of
them had stepped off the path and were stricken. once three of
the travelers were down, the tired convert lost his focus and they
all died: convulsing, screaming, projectile vomit spewing in all
directions for several minutes. it is a horrible way to die.
"ah, you have arrived at last." says the mayor of our town to me.
"what can we do to convince people not to crowd too many on a
convert?" I shake my head. the mayor travels with two converts
simultaneously clearing the way so he can move around rather
quickly compared to everyone else. his conversion is paid for as
a town expense, but most of the citizens have to hire their own
converts.
"just the other day, we found a young woman, a convert, dead on
her own." i tell the mayor. "travel is not perfectly reliable
under any conditions."
"we are working on the oil." he says to me. this is a thin clear
oil, a derivative of neatsfoot, which can be poured down the
channels of a converted sidewalk to slow its return to contra
corrugation. the problem is that it costs a lot and only lasts a
hour at most before evaporating. for town meetings a block or two
of sidewalk can be made safe for a stretch, but soon everyone has
to return home with single converts leading the way.
=( i wake around 08:15 with my shoulder aching and feeling too
hot. mother has turned the air conditioning back to 75 so i doubt
that i will get back to sleep this morning. there was a little
more to this dream which has escaped me now. i think i went
somewhere else in the village and one of my converts died in
transit. but i can not recall it well enough now. i had the
sense of the village being a resort area like on a beach. there
were no large trees or even much grass, just sandy soil and those
narrow confining sidewalks. i can not imagine anyone wanting to
come to such a toxic place, but i suspect that the lethal
conditions were somewhat recent so everyone did not really
understand the dangers of overcrowding the few converts available.
)=
comments: 500-007
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Message: 499-004 [498-002]
Subject: Re: Chicken and Cat in Water
The owl and the hawk sound very spiritual and can be translated
into something positive. However if we become afraid, we can find
a lot of strange things comming in that wont make sence. Owls
speak of wisdom and hawks, keeness and descernment. Keep sending
in dreams Grizz, and try not to focus to much on the negative. You
sound a very interesting person.
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Message: 500-001 [498-001]
Subject: Re: water and wind
Interesting dream. Sounds like an awesome experience. I think the
tree is something you have been waiting a long time for. Some goal
or desire of great worth to you. The touching it and slipping back
means two things to me. You are nearly there because its in your
grasp, and its going to take a little while longer to achieve so
be patient. When it comes to pass let us know. Good luck and good
flying.
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Message: 500-002
Subject: A windy night
dream_title: A windy night
dream_date: 6/18-19/02
dream_text: I was walking on a sidewalk at night in the summer
(the trees were greenish) with a woman at my side (could be a
fellow employee - don't quite remember). Walking behind me were
two males one of which was a fellow employee whom I work with.
Suddenly I expelled gas. It was a real stinker. I looked behind me
and the two people walking behind me were now trailing 30 or more
feet behind me waving their hands by their noses saying woo.
When I turned back around the female employee was now 20 feet
ahead of me.
This is all I remember.
dream_comments: This is a wierd dream but true. It must have been
something I ate but I was quite windy that night.
I would not think to have this dream enterprited but a fellow
employee of mine wondered what the enerpretation would be.
Comments: 500-008
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Message: 500-003
Subject: animals run wild
dream_title: animals run wild
dream_date: Jan 2001
dream_text: looking ahead I could see a clear distinction between
the green land and the blue sky - very much like how a child
would draw - a bright fiery sun slowly came down into view,
taking up a large proportion and a mass of wild animals came
running towards me. The animals were of a pale grey colour and it
appeared as only their outline. after running through me I was
sat on a bench alongside a male person whom I did not know. The
dream was very surreal and quite none threatening. Although I was
apart of it I felt as if I was merely observing. All colours were
of a water colour appearance. Very soft with no sharp
outlines.This dream created an impact and I felt quite calm when
waking up.
dream_comments: I used to dream practically every night, all of
varying themes, but some reoccurring. Sometimes I have felt as if
someone or something is trying to drag me out of my body, where I
have to fight real hard to stay where I am - one time I found
myself being all wolf like and snarling (highly embarassing) One
particular scary moment is when a dark figure at the end of my
bed was trying to pull me towards him, in fighting back and white
figure drifted over and kissed me on the cheek. One time when I
was about 4 years i became delerious and envisioned two hands in
the prayer position coming towards me. Too much information?
sorry but I've never had a clear explanation of things I have
dreamt and am so looking forward in hearing others peoples
comment. Thanks.
Comments: 500-010, 501-002, 501-003
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Message: 500-004
Subject: The Coolest Dream I Ever Had
dream_title: The Coolest Dream I Ever Had
dream_date: 3/24/2002
dream_text: I went to high school naked, and I didn't care. I
walked through the halls tall and naked, and I felt no shame. A
few other students were naked, but most wore clothes. I went to
classes and was sometimes late, or I skipped or slept in. I never
even went to some complicated classes.
My hair was long and thick, growing past my ass.
When I got hungry, I went naked to the store and bought a carton
of seafood Basque.
Once I entered a hallway where a group of students were silently
dancing in unison. I stood and watched them in silence.
dream_comments: This was after a week's vacation in which I didn't
go anywhere.
Comments: 500-006
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Message: 500-005
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Message: 500-006 [500-004]
Subject: Re: The Coolest Dream I Ever Had
This dream is reminding you of the part of you that likes to take
risks, break the rules. A lot of people are embarassed in their
naked dreams. It sounds like you are very secure about yourself,
which is a quality most people don't have.
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Message: 500-007 [499-003]
Subject: Re: village of conversion
I live with my grandparents, and they're always making the house
hot. The worst part is that I sleep in the smallest, most
cluttered bedroom. But like you, I can't sleep in heat. It makes
me nervous. But also what it makes me do is dream very strange
dreams that don't seem to make any sense at all. I think that you
might have had that same problem monday night. But all that stuff
about the plastic and the currents, and toxicity might have meant
that you were subconsciously sensing a lack of bloodflow to your
shoulder. That could have been why you woke up in pain. Maybe
you should talk to a doctor about it. I've walked around for
months with something as serious as a dislocated joint and not
done anything about it. Some people don't even notice these
things. But I have to tell you from experience that a
misdiagnosis and improper treatment cause permanent aches and
pains after the injury is, according to doctors, no longer a
threat. I've seen people who have taken morphine for years for
this reason.
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Message: 500-008 [500-002]
Subject: Re: A windy night
I think that you worry more about your gas than anything else. I
know you may have a sense of humor, but what I'm really trying to
say is that if you're around a woman and you accidentally break
wind you shouldn't worry about it. It's a normal function that is
necessary to stay healthy. My aunt refuses to pass gas, even on
the toilet, and she is very heavy and bloated. If you're bold
enough to post your fart dreams on the internet, you need a woman
who can take a joke and admit that she farts too. Because we all
do it (with the exception of my deranged aunt), we just don't
want to admit how often we do it. That's my view, and I hope you
and your friend have fun with it.
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Message: 500-009
Subject: snakes and forearm
dream_title: snakes and forearm
dream_date: 18 June 2002
dream_text: It was evening and I was enjoying dinner with two
friends of mine. The restaurant was quiet and almost serene. One
woman Jessica is a very close friend of mine, the other Darlene a
woman who had worked for me and we had become friends. I do not
see Darlene very often anymore. As I was eating my meal, my left
forearm started to throb 4 inches down from my wrist. Then the
skin started to move and protrude. I felt the skin tear open
without any associated pain and the bright green head of a snake
come thru. I ran from the table clutching my arm with my former
friend close behind. As I was running down a hallway the snake
fell to the carpet. It must have been two feet long. I couldn't
breathe. The tail of the second snake was protruding out of the
cut in my arm. There was no blood. I grabbed the tail and pulled,
only six inches of the snake came out, the tail tore in two
leaving the rest of the snake in my forearm. I know Darlene was
with me when I fainted.
dream_comments: I have never been more frightened in my life. I
have no idea what this could possibly mean. Can you help me.
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Message: 500-010 [500-003]
Subject: Re: animals run wild
When I was a small child, I had some interesting dreams myself.
Some of them would happen. I remember one time I dreamed about an
orphan girl who was showing me things that really didn't concern
me at that point, and were really weird too. But when I woke up
the girl had become a gold outline of a butterfly flying above
me. Then I felt what I distinctly knew was a man's hand touching
my face. When I was fully conscious, I began to worry about my
grandfather, thinking that man was his ghost. My insticts were
wrong, but at the time my sister was visiting. A few years later
she moved in and started a chain of events that led to my moving
away from my abusive mother and being diagnosed with epilepsy. My
sister contributed to my moving out, but not in a good way. She
was beating on me too, and she was too old to do it and I was too
young to be subjected to that. I can't say all that happened, but
I can relate to your dreams. I just have to say that weird dreams
are usually a result of your home not being the right temperature
at night or even antibiotics or antianxiety medications. If
you're taking anything for health problems I would ask your
doctor if that's a side effect, because it often is.
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Message: 501-001
Subject: 2 guys that I have a crush on
dream_date: June 19, 2002
dream_text: I am visiting a town that is a 2 hour drive away.
Then, for some reason, I walk back to the town where I go to
school. It doesn't seem to take long. When I get there, I see 2
guys that I have a crush on getting out of a van, both wearing
red shirts. We start walking together and end up at the video
store, just talking. Then, I take the one that I like more aside
and ask him out. As I walk out the door, I hand the one I like
better one of the cans of pop(Mt Dew)that I was holding. After
that, I just walk back to where I came from and it still seems to
be only a couple of minutes. But, when I'm almost there, I hit a
patch of mud and almost get stuck, but escape, and then continue
into the town.
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Message: 501-002 [500-003]
Subject: Re: animals run wild
Hi. Green land and blue sky give a sence of balance and serenity.
Very positive. The feiry sun an expression of power and confidence
or an expectation of something wonderful about to happen. Power
and balance can be very exillerating and worthy of desire. To be
calm and serene shows a certain comfortableness and understanding
of what you are experiencing. The colour grey is often associated
with negativity and uncertainty. The fact you ended up next to a
male after a flood of grey animals(animals can mean our
emotions)came running through you, would probably suggest that the
unknown man had some association with negativity for you. Perhaps
thoughts of a partner to share yourself with triggered off the
grey animals. However you held your composure well and the whole
episode ended very well for you.
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Message: 501-003 [500-003]
Subject: Re: animals run wild
Hi. I would encourage you to get involved with dream
interpretation it sounds like you have a really special gift. I
have experienced many similar things in past years and have found
that being part of something like this is very fullilling. I read
a book once called Paranormal and it explained what you said as
the beginnig of a mediumistic trance. (Usually accompanied by a
sound simillar to rushing water). I used to find my experiences
very scarry to start, however I would end up in all different
places very concious of it afterward and calm as well. This hasnt
happened now for many years. I have develloped quite a positive
interpretation exercise now and even the most disturbing dreams I
have work out for good. I awaken now challenged to be acountable
and take steps to prevent the negative things I may sometimes
dream from coming to pass. Either I'm warned or inspired and have
recieved some amazing results from these promptings
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Message: 501-004
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Message: 501-005
Subject: Professor L
dream_title: Professor L
dream_date: June 19, 2002
dream_text: I dreamt that I was having great, passionate sex with
my professor and it was so real. When I woke up I felt like I
had cheated on my husband. I've had a crush on this Professor
for 3 weeks now. What does my dream indicate. It was so real,
and I didn'twant it to stop.
dream_comments: was it just some subconsious play on my feeligs or
him? Or ca it have a greater ramification?
Comments: 501-006, 501-008
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Message: 501-006 [501-005]
Subject: Re: Professor L
If you have a crush on him then that explians why you dreamt about
him in that way. However take it as a warning not to spend any
private time with him if you value your marriage. This was only a
dream however and so it hasn't happened. Doesn't mean it will
happen and you still can say no to your desires and him if the
need arises. Dont let it play on your mind because these things
can lead to a wanting to experiment.
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Message: 501-007
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Message: 501-008 [501-005]
Subject: Re: Professor L
Everyone has had dreams like yours, and everyone comes across this
situation when they're married. Being married doesn't mean you're
not going to feel a slight attraction every now and then, it
means that you're always going to fight it to remain faithful to
your spouse. Sex dreams sometimes don't even mean you have a
crush on someone, it means that they represent a figure in your
past that you think of in that way. Your professor might remind
you of your husband. Come to think of it, your husband probably
has sex dreams about other women. He wouldn't dwell on them, and
he wouldn't want you to dwell on yours, either. That's what
marriage is about, and the same thing goes for real life
attractions. Your husband might think someone at work is pretty,
but he wouldn't cheat on you, just like you shouldn't cheat on
him.
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Message: 502-001
Subject: pregnant with twins
dream_date: 6-21-02
dream_text: im in my house up in bedroom on my bed in a girl from
school i like we have sex and later i find out she pregnant with
twins
crutof_69@yahoo.com
dream_comments: please use my e-mail
comments: 502-002
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Message: 502-002 [502-001]
Subject: Re: pregnant with twins
That's a classic. You're dreaming a fear, of a worry, that maybe
if you keep having sex you might get a girl pregnant with twins.
Then you would really be in trouble. Twins are twice the work and
twice the money, and I would find it very amusing to see that
happen to a couple of teenagers. That's your lesson, you'll never
know if a girl you're sleeping with is capable of having twins.
In adolescent girls, it is possible. So be careful.
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