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E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s
Volume #7 Issue #7
July 2000
ISSN# 1089 4284
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C O N T E N T S
++ Editor's Notes
++ Event: Mutual Dream Destination for July 15:
Yellowstone National Park
++ Notes to the Editor/Dream Airing:
ASD updates - Alan Siegel
Cyberdreamwork invitation- Robert Bosnak
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Who is Dreaming?
By Lucy Gillis
++ Column: The Dream Doctor
By Charles McPhee, Ph.D.
++ Column: The Lucid Bird's Words
The Six Basic Steps to Lucid Dreaming
Step 4: Becoming familiar with your Dreams
By Marc Vandekeere
++ Column: The DreamSpinner Column
Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers
By Bjo Ashwill
++ Article: Digital Dreaming Series
Computer Dreams II :
The changing (inter)face of dream texts
By Richard Wilkerson
++ Column: Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:
Dreaming Through the Houses: 7th House for July
Madame Aionia
++ Astrology Extra: Islands 7th House Dreams and Questions
G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S Peggy Coats
NEWS * RESEARCH & REQUESTS * WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES *
* DREAM CALENDAR for July and August 2000* ASD News Update!
D R E A M S S E C T I O N :
dream-flow.v001.n312- dream-flow.v001.n329
D E A D L I N E :
July 19, deadline for AUGUST submissions
Topics: How to use the Internet for Dream Sharing
M U T U A L D R E A M T A R G E T July 15.
Yellowstone National Park, Wyoming, USA.
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Richard Wilkerson <rcwilk@dreamgate.com>
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Editor's Notes
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Welcome to the July issue of Electric Dreams.
Who Are We? Mostly we are you.
Electric Dreams is a community as well as an e-zine, loosely connected and interested in sharing dreams. Our focus is dream sharing online. This e-zine is a forum for news, articles, comments and other topics in dream and dreaming. Generally we support free speech here. Send in your dreams, comments, articles and news!
On the dream groups (DreamWheel and eDreams) the ethical rules are tighter and generally follow the guidelines set out by the Association for the Study of Dreams.
http://www.asdreams.org/ethics.htm
Our Staff members also have other discussion forums and projects loosely associated with Electric Dreams which follow their own ethical guidelines. Note for example Victoria Quinton and the DreamChatters dream discussion list.
dreamchatters@egroups.com
In this issue of Electric Dreams Marc Vandekeere continues his basic steps to lucid dreaming with extensive notes on Becoming familiar with your Dreams. Be sure to read Lucid Bird's Words.
This month's excerpt from Lucy Gilliss Lucid Dream Exchange features a group of dreams with a common theme - just who is dreaming when we dream? For many, the dreamer doesn't always feel exactly the same as the "awake" personality that we each know as "me." And what about in Out of Body Experiences, when the dreamer looks back and sees him or herself asleep on the bed? Is that an "empty" body laying there? What if that body sits up and looks around? Who is sitting up?
Last month we were joined by Bjo Ashwill. For those of you who have used her dream journaling software DreamSpinner, you know when I say she is a real expert on recording dreams and has been studying the many different nuances of this area for some time. Her presentations at the Association for the Study of Dreams have awed experts on dream content analysis like G. W. Domhoff and deeply impressed them.
This month Bjo continues with the theme of Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers. She looks at how useful categories are created and how language metaphors work. Be sure to read The DreamSpinner Column
Charles McPhee returns to comment on dreams. If you havent seen his new Dream Doctor site, I recommend stopping by and adding some dreams to the growing collection and special teen section! http://www.dreamdoctor.com
I am presenting the second installment of the Digital Dreams series. This collection of dreams about computers and other digital age issues continues a wide variety of images. If you have dreams to contribute, send them to me at Richard Wilkerson, rcwilk@dreamgate.com
Madame Aionia continues to explore the relationship between astrology and dreams in this issue. In Libra, or Seventh House dreams, dreams that relates to close relationships, marriage partners, close business partners and open enemies are discussed.
Peggy Coats, from dreamtree.com, has been gathering the news about dreaming from all around the Net and has the latest conferences, the best workshops, the finest dream events and all the updates on the latest and best web sites. Be sure to look over the Global Dreaming News for the events in your area.
For the latest Association for the Study of Dreams announcements send an e-mail to the ASD News Autoresponder at news@asdreams.org
Our Dreams this month come from all around the Net and have been organized by the software developed by Harry Bosma. Be sure to look through the dreams and see what on the mind and soul of dreamers in Cyberspace.
Are you new to dreamwork and dream sharing? Please send in an e-mail to scoop@dreamgate.com for a list of suggested steps and resources in learning about dreamwork and dreaming online.
Many thanks to the cover artist this month, Erik Brisson <ebrisson@tonka.bu.edu>
If you would like to connect with the 2000 ASD Conference July 4th - 8th but cant get to Washington D.C. , Jean Campbell would like to invite you to join her and the rest of the Computer Café volunteers. Stop by the website for the Association for the Study of Dreams.
http://www.asdreams.org/café
Finally, if you would like to meet us in Dreaming Land, we will be having a mutual dream July 15 at Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, USA. For those of you not familiar with the park, be sure to go online to http://www.altavista.com and select IMAGES Tab, then search for Yellowstone. (I plan to be at Old Faithful, the Geyser!) Read more about this below. Hope to See you there!
-Richard Wilkerson
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Dream Airing:
News, Notes and Events
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If you would like to get more information about the monthly class, the History of Dreams, send and e-mail to the autoresponder at dreamclass@dreamgate.com
Richard
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ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF DREAMS
ASD CONFERENCE EXCERPTS
It's time for the annual ASD Conference and you can sample some hors d'oeuvres from the July 4-8 ASD International Dream Conference by browsing
the conference abstracts on our web site:
2000 ASD CONFERENCE ABSTRACTS:
http://www.asdreams.org/asd-17/abstracts/index.htm
COMPUTER CAFÉ: Coffee drinker or not, you can drink in the stimulating resources available through the online version of the conference computer café where you will find juicy links to world dream organizations, presentations, dream chat opportunities and many savory resources.
http://www.asdreams.org/cafe/
The computer cafe is coordinated by Jean Campbell
jccampb@aol.com
DREAM TIME LIVE: Join us on line each month for DREAM TIME LIVE, a monthly Internet chat room. You can join in the dialogue. For information on joining the Dream Time Live chats, come to the ASD website within one week of the chat. http://www.asdreams.org or send an email to chat@asdreams.org Our next guest will be: Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D. Live! July 19, 2000 at 7PM Pacific Time.
The title of her chat will be:
LUCIDITY, NATIVE AND CYBER-DREAMWORK
Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D., is a past president of ASD. She began her dream career examining lucid dreams and edited "Conscious Mind, Sleeping Brain: Perspectives on Lucid Dreaming" with Stephen LaBerge. After immigrating to Canada she began teaching Aboriginal Canadians in Central Alberta and now teaches at three all native colleges. Her article on dreamwork with the Cree can be found here (http://www.sawka.com/spiritwatch/native.htm). In 1995 she wrote her first online course and it was on dreams and is now offered by the Edmonton Public Schools here (http://www.ces.edmonton.ab.ca/). Information on her latest book, "Psychology and the Internet: Intrapersonal, Interpersonal, and Transpersonal Implications" is available on the web site.
Reverend Jeremy Taylor will appear in August 16, 2000 7 PM Pacific Daylight rTime
ALAN SIEGEL, PH.D.
PRESIDENT, ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF DREAMS
EDITOR, DREAM TIME MAGAZINE
WWW.ASDREAMS.ORG
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CYBERDREAMWORK
www.cyberdreamwork.com
Invites You To: A DEMONSTRATION OF A DREAMWORK GROUP
Given by:
The First Cyberdreamwork Coach Graduating Class
Saturday July 15, 2000
9:30 A.M. EDT - PLEASE NOTE: THE NAME OF THE FORUM IS:
Dreamwork Group
10:30 P.M. JST in Kyoto, Japan
3:30 P.M. SAST in Johannesburg, South Africa
3:30 P.M. CEST in Amsterdam, Netherlands
9:30 AM New York, NY
6:30 A.M. PDT in San Francisco, CA.
11:30 P.M. EST in Brisbane, Australia
Check the exact time of the Workshops in any time zone at:
The Global Metric Time Service
http://www.globalmetric.com
The first graduating class will conduct an interactive audio Cyberdreamwork Group in the auditorium of the voice program: http://www.firetalk.com
The FREE download for this audio program can be found at http:// www.cyberdreamwork.com/sitemap.html
The program will be as follows:
9:30 - 10:00 A.M.
Introduction to Cyberdreamwork groups and the training of Cyberdreamwork Coaches.
10:00 - 11:00 A.M.
Demonstration of a cyberdreamwork group. Participants will be the first group of coaches trained at www.cyberdreamwork.com
11:00 - 11:30 A.M.
General discussion.
If you have any questions you would like members of the group to give special attention, please send them to the
webmaster@cyberdreamwork.com
The auditorium will open at 9:00 A.M. EDT FREE OF CHARGE
PLEASE FORWARD THIS NOTICE TO ANYONE YOU THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT THIS UNIQUE EVENT
(PRINT THESE INSTRUCTIONS)
1. Log on to the internet via your ISP (for ex.; aol)
2. Connect to Firetalk.
3. Click the "Forums" button located in the upper
left hand corner of the Firetalk window.
4. In the list of "Firetalk Forum Categories":
Double click on the name "International."
5. Click on the name "Dreamwork Group "
(this name will not appear until 9:00 A.M. EDT each Saturday)
6. THIS IS A PASSWORD PROTECTED FORUM.
Please note the password to enter is: "Dream"(case sensitive)
7. Click on the "Join" button in the forum window.
Your name will appear in the Participant list on
the right side of the Firetalk panel.
8. You can now relax and take part in what promises
to be an exciting global event.
9. To participate in discussions during the workshop, open the "Text" window under the Participant list on the
right side of the Firetalk panel. Type in "Mic" and press "Enter" on your computer keyboard. You will be handed
a microphone by one of the workshop moderators.
Note: If you have any technical difficulties during this workshop you can conveniently click the "leave" button on the right side of the Firetalk panel under the Participant list. Then enter, ( double click on) the live on-line Firetalk Support Forum for immediate help.
Emergency Situations:
1. If you are having trouble connecting to Firetalk, their server may be down. To check if this is the problem, click on "Tools" at the top of the Firetalk panel and click on "Server Status." You can also check by clicking on the address below.
http://www.firetalk.com/servicestatus.asp
2. If your ISP (ex., aol, etc) disconnects you from the internet while attending the Workshop, click the "leave" button on the right side of the Firetalk panel under the Participant list. Then, click on "File" at the top of the Firetalk panel and click on "Exit".
You will now have to proceed again by reconnecting to your ISP and Firetalk. You can reenter the auditorium as indicated in the directions above.
FOR BEGINNERS:
If You Are A Firetalk Beginner, need to download Firetalk and you're not familiar with this voice program, read and print the following instructions:
The FREE download for this audio program can be found at
www.cyberdreamwork.com/sitemap.html
1) Ideally, if you are downloading your Firetalk software for the first time, do this a few days before the Internet Dream
Workshop so you can test your microphone, speakers or headset and make your first call on Firetalk.
2) Then, using the Firetalk Screenshot only for a tutorial,
www.firetalk.com/screenshot.html
familiarize yourself with all the Firetalk features you'll be accessing. On that module, if you click on "Forums" in the upper left hand corner you will find directions for entering and joining a forum. Virtual Auditoriums like the Dreamwork Group auditorium are essentially forums that are led (moderated) by one or more individuals and have a controlled microphone that is given to participants who want to talk and ask questions of the lecturer or moderator of the workshop.
3) Print a copy of the above instructions for easy reference and then go back and click on "Participant CS Raven" on the Firetalk Screenshot to review and access a REPLICA of the Forum Participant module along with a legend of all the icons you will actually be using on Firetalk.
4) Return to the above directions for entering the auditorium when you are ready to use Firetalk.
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Mutual Dream Destination
July 15, 2000
Yellowstone National Park
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"Where the Buffalo Roam.... for July 15 2000...join us for a mutual dream destination in Yellowstone National Park. Highlights of Yellowstone of particular beauty and spiritual power include the last herd of wild bison
(also known as American buffalo) and the activists who are outdoors year-round trying to save their lives, the Grand Teton mountains, the changeable mountain weather, and the world famous geysers including Old Faithful and other geological wonders.
Several dreamers who joined the mutual dream goal of Saguaro National Park on June 21 report having seen a circle of people, which the dreamers they could not join for some reason. this time we might all to keep an image of
an inclusive and welcoming landscape where there is room for all. Please bear in mind that this land truly is your land, regardless of your nationality, and ask the prairies and mountains for their blessing on your journey. If no one is there to welcome you personally, know that the land knows you are there, to quote a wonderful modern folk song."
If you meet us there and want to share this dream in waking life, you can subscribe to dreamshare@egroups.com or dreamchatters@egroups.com
Instructions: Go to http://www.egroups.com for subscription instructions.
About Mutual Dreaming: See Linda Magallons Mutual Dreaming FAQ:
http://members.aol.com/dreampsi/archive/mutualdreaming.html#anchor456487
Where would *you* like to meet in the future?
Contact Judith
E-mail : coamdre@mindspring.com
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Electric Dreams Club on YAHOO!
Dear Richard Wilkerson
I have created a club on Yahoo! called Electric Dreams located at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/electricdreams. I have always been interested in dreams and one my favorite movies is called Electric Dreams. So it was destiny that my club was called Electric Dreams. My message posted on the site states what this club is about:
A place where people can talk about there dreams. Please note members will give their opinions of your dreams or relate their own experiences. Please do not relate porn stories this club is for serious discussions of dreams.
I hope you can place a link to this club on www.dreamgate.com site as I believe this club could truly open more discussion of dreams and help others understand they may not be the only one with such dreams.
I truly appreciate the work you have done and great site you have!
Thanks and keep dreaming!
Don Elletson
scrncrze@yahoo.com
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
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This month's excerpt features a group of dreams with a common theme - just who is dreaming when we dream? For many, the dreamer doesn't always feel exactly the same as the "awake" personality that we each know as "me." And what about in Out of Body Experiences, when the dreamer looks back and sees him or herself asleep on the bed? Is that an "empty" body laying there? What if that body sits up and looks around? Who is sitting up?
WHO IS DREAMING?
Debbie Winterbourne
17 April 2000
'Who am I?'
I am 'home' in an apartment in a foreign country. I want to look in a mirror, but the apartment is somewhat dark. I try turning on the light switch, but it appears to be out of order. I try two more light switches and both fail to function. It crosses my mind that electric light switches often fail to work in lucid dreams, and that I should do a reality test. There is a notice board in my bedroom, so I decide to do a reading test. As I prepare to do the test, I am thinking: "Oh my god; if this is a dream, it is going to be amazing because the scenario
is so utterly lifelike."
I read a notice on the board and then read it again. The text is different the second time, but then changes to become the same as the first reading. To be sure, I read the text for a third time. It is different. I am lucid! I am filled with elation as I try to recall my lucid dreaming agenda. I remember that I have decided to just follow what the dream offers. In order to maintain the vividness of the lucid dream, I rub my hands on my body and repeat aloud 'I am lucid.' I exit from my bedroom, and then have a thought: "Why don't I go back in my bedroom and maybe I will see myself sleeping on my bed? And perhaps this second Debbie will be the real physical Debbie asleep in the waking world."
I open the bedroom door and enter. There I am on the bed! But who is looking at the Debbie on the bed? I am confused about the nature of the real me. [section removed per authors request] I decide to spin and try to find another dream scene. I do this remembering to remain lucid.
In the next dream scene, I find myself in a dark cellar at the bottom of some stairs. There is a door at the end of the cellar. I walk to the door and open it. There is clear sunlight and I am fully lucid. I am walking down a street, marveling at how absolutely vivid and lifelike everything is. I start to reflect on techniques to maintain the dream imagery. I remember that Paul Tholey had claimed that staring at a fixed point often led to a shaky dream environment, so I decide to try it for myself. The scenery becomes blurred, so instead I start to shift my gaze around from object to object. The dream imagery immediately becomes more solid. The sun is really beautiful: its rays are of a watery thin light quality. I gasp aloud with its beauty and serenity. I decide to explore the sensation of touch. On my left is a privet hedge and I run my hand along it to the end: its prickles rub against my skin and it feels totally like the 'real' thing. I awake with a jolt.
Lucy Gillis
December 29 1995
I have been chasing a small dog down a street. I meet a little boy, probably going to school, and I ask him if he saw the dog. He points down the street a ways. He says they usually go down here this time of night. I go down and there is no sign of him. I turn to the left, walking along a grassy hill which is also a roof. I then walk out to the edge, and as I look down, I can see a cat below. And as I look more carefully, there is another cat. But then, when I look straight down, I can't believe how high up I am and I am so close to the edge. SLOWLY and carefully I back away. I am so frightened about how high up I am. At that point I realize I am dreaming, but I don't let it sink in right away. I start walking back and as I begin to question if I am in fact dreaming, there is a metal object like a gate in the way. I fold it back and it sort of bounces so I have to give it a really good push. Then there are iron posts laying across my path. I think that there is nothing in front of me but these posts that I previously saw down on the ground, so I decide to fly as another reality test, the ultimate test. When I do so, I feel a strange sensation in my legs that I sometimes notice when I move to fly in a dream; like there's water running down them. Then I start to fly into a room and I can see my body on a bed. Then I just kind of hover above "me/her," I don't want to frighten "me/her," but at the same time I want to let "me/her" know that I am there. So I come around to the other side of the body and sit on a pillow. I notice that as "she" sits up "she" looks towards me, but obviously can't see me, as "she" has a kind of quizzical look on "her" face. So I start barking like the little dog from the first part of the dream, as though I was going to be the dog from "her" dream. Then I feel a shift and I wake, flat on my back. I do not wake in the body that I had been looking at, nor did I expect to. [Though it was "me" I saw in the dream, I felt it was a version of me, not the same me that is writing this.]
Mara Sand
Past Lucid Dream:
[This dream came shortly after the last mailing of LDE. I was inspired by the idea of using the activity of flying to trigger the awareness of the dream state.]
I am in a room and I realize I can fly. I say to myself that I am dreaming and decide to fly up through the ceiling. I come into contact with several people in a series of scenes that I think are probable realities. I see an older woman who reminds me of my mother. She seems worried about many of her life situations. I think she was a probable self. I am filled with a sensation of joy of the multifaceted connection to my greater self. I as a dream entity feel very connected to the learning/joy of being a multi-reincarnated-probable inner-self. I want to reach out to her and share my joy of the multi levels of learning. I attempt to explain the magic of life/lives, the exuberance of the creativity of this connectedness to so many selves. I try to say something like it is all creativity and love. I say something about how we are all connected, and awareness of this is the key. I awake exhilarated.
The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly issue featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles, poetry, and book reviews submitted by readers. For further information contact Lucy Gillis at lucy@turbotek.net
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The Dream Doctor
Charles McPhee, Ph.D.
http://www.dreamdoctor.com
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Dream: "The Affair"
I've been having the same dream now every night for about a week. Here is my background information. I'm a 25 year old single female living alone. For a year now I've been having an affair with a married man. Yes, I know its wrong, but our attraction for each other is undeniable. We've tried to stop in the past without success.
Now, onto the dream. It's night and I'm asleep in my bed. I awake to knocking on my front door. From the position of my bed, I can see the front door, which has frosted glass panels all over it. I can make out the shadow of a man standing there. I'm a bit frightened because I live in an apartment building where you must be buzzed in to enter. I'm not friendly with anyone in the building, so I don't know who this could possibly be at my door.
I get out of bed, wearing a very beautiful white satin and lace nightgown, and walk over to the door. I look out the peephole, but I can't see anything. Cautiously I open the door and there stands my (married) boyfriend. Seeing that it's him, I relax and open the door for him.
He stands there, looking at me for what seems like an eternity, not saying a word. I ask if he's okay and he mutters, I love you, and pulls out a very sharp, very long knife from his leather jacket. He then proceeds to stab me in the abdomen repeatedly.
I keep pleading for him to stop, but he doesn't. I can vividly recall the brightness of the red blood all over my gown, dripping down my hands and onto the floor. I look up at him and he finally stops, steps back, says he's sorry and then leaves. I just start crying, fall to the floor and everything fades to black, except for the red blood on the floor. This is where the dream ends and I wake up.
Any ideas what's going on here? It's really scaring me and I can't seem to get any answers from the books I've read.
Anonymous, Age 25, Female, Single, New York, NY, USA
Hi Anonymous -
Ouch! It hurts to read your dream. Not only can I feel the pain of that knife as if it were in my own abdomen, I also feel your confusion that is allowing this wounding affair to continue.
I will not be able to speak as eloquently or as powerfully as your dream does, but perhaps I can help you to hear its message better.
The sex you are having with this man, while it is undeniable, appears to be coming at a greater cost than you currently recognize. Aside from the moral questions that participation in such a relationship entails, the more immediate fact remains that, because he is married, your boyfriend also is unavailable to youin any capacity resembling a normal attraction.
He is not free for Saturday strolls in the park. He is not free for you to introduce to your friends and family. He is not free for you to spend long weekends with, lounging in bed and watching old movies on TV. Nor is he free for you even to call at home. Is it any wonder your dreams show the life force draining steadily from you?
The repeated stabbing into your abdomen with a long, sharp knife, given the context of your relationship, is a clear sexual metaphor. The bright red blood that spills over your gown, dripping down your hands and onto the floor, symbolizes not only the emotional damage that this relationship is causing you, but also, most likely, the guilt you feel for allowing it to continue, when you know that what you are doing is wrong.
Your dreams would not choose repeated metaphors of violence and wounding if these symbols did not accurately reflect your current emotional state. Your dreams are communicating with you, Anonymous! Do you hear the message? If you want these dreams to stop, you need to set your romantic sight several notches higher. Tell Mr. Wrong goodbye, and start preparing yourself for Mr. Right. It will be such a relief to let go of this bad, bad dream.
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The Lucid Bird's Words
by Marc Vandekeere
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This month:
Step Four) Becoming familiar with your Dreams
The Six Basic Steps by Marc Vandekeere
The following is an excerpt from my manual, The Ultimate Lucid Dreaming Manual Basics and Beyond. I hope it can be used to maximize your lucid dreaming progress. If you find this information helpful you may want to check out my lucid dreaming website for further info, tips, resources and more. The URL of my site is http://how.to/luciddream and if you have any questions, feedback or comments, feel free to send me an email. I'm always happy to hear from other dreamers and love to help out. if and when I can, thelucidbird@mediaone.net . Stay lucid.
So now we've come to the payoff. In order to make this material more user-friendly, the information has been divided into four categories, and there will also be an summarized outline at the end of the manual. By getting an overview at a glance, it may be easier for you to thoroughly learn, absorb and internalize all the information. Hopefully, it will help tighten all the concepts into one working whole.
The Process
Section One - The Six Basic Steps
Section Two - Other methods
Section Three - General tips
Section Four - Tools and Tactics
All these sections have one objective - teaching you how to become lucid in your dreams. After you've learned the process, methods, tips, tools, and tactics, we'll cover the more advanced techniques that you will need to know once you become lucid.
The Process
There are many techniques and methods that you can use for inducing lucid dreams, but there are basically two different ways of becoming lucid. You can either have dream-induced or wake-induced lucid dreams. Stephen LaBerge coined the term D.I.L.D. (Dream Induced Lucid Dream) for dreams in which you become lucid while within a dream. By training your awareness, you will somehow realize that you are dreaming while you are dreaming. This is by far the most common way of having a lucid dream, but it is also possible to directly enter a lucid dream from a waking state. These Wake Induced Lucid Dreams, or W.I.L.D.s, are far more rare, but as LaBerge so aptly labeled them, they are quite an experience. While covering the basics we will be dealing primarily with dream induced lucid dreams. When we move beyond the basics, we will be dealing with the more
advanced techniques that will include inducing W.I.L.D.s. There are many methods to induce lucid dreams, but there is an underlying process behind most if not all of them. I've broken this underlying process down into six basic steps that will serve as our beginning regime. Once you absorb these steps and start following them, it is only a matter of time before you have your first lucid dream. In case you are wondering how long it will take for you to have you first one, just follow through with the steps and have faith that you will have one.
According to statistics, the time it takes for someone to have their first lucid dream averages from three weeks to two months, but yours may be tonight so don't be discouraged if you try for a while and don't succeed. There seems to be an obsession in our society for instant results. If you are one of these people, realize that this is one of your first obstacles to overcome. Only one thing is certain - If you never stop trying, you are guaranteed to succeed.
The Six Basic Steps
1) Doing the Mental Prep-Work - see Electric Dreams 7(4) April 2000
2) Increasing dream recall -FOCUS THIS MONTH
3) Keeping a dream journal
4) Becoming familiar with your Dreams
5) Adding Awareness to your Waking Consciousness
6) Linking your Awareness to your Dreams
Step Four) Becoming familiar with your Dreams
As your dream journal grows and your dream recall increases, naturally you will become more familiar with your dreams. Certain people, certain places, and certain activities may be more likely to appear in your dreams. For example, you may have a majority of dreams in which you are at your office or at school or at the beach. Certain dream themes might also be more common than others might. You may dream of being a hero or you may dream of being chased. These recurrent patterns in your dreams are your dreamsigns, and they will be the first stepping stones on your path to lucid dreaming.
By learning your distinctive dreamsigns, you will be able to further increase your recall. Making a list of your dreamsigns is a great idea. If you are having trouble recalling any dreams, you can run down your list of dream signs and question yourself to see if any of them will spark a memory. Sometimes, by jarring just one dream fragment loose you can recover the whole dream so knowing and using your dreamsigns may give you just the edge you need to overcome a morning bout of dream amnesia.
By working with your dreamsigns, you will develop an intimate relationship with your dreams. They will become more accessible and easier to understand. It is helpful to ask yourself why you are dreaming what you dream. What do these dreamsigns mean to you? The more you understand not only your dreamsigns but what they mean, the more you will benefit from them in both your dream life and your waking life.
If at first you are having trouble identifying your dreamsigns, realize that your dreamsigns dont have to be extraordinarily unique. As a matter of fact, they may be the most ordinary things. For example, you may have dreams about your previous day or you may dream of cleaning your house. Whatever it is that you dream about, you need to be noting the patterns and commonalties. You can start with whatever patterns you notice no matter how insignificant they seem. Using these as a springboard, you will soon begin to notice more patterns developing. The process of looking for patterns may in fact create the patterns themselves so if you are having trouble finding your dreamsigns, just keep looking and they will emerge.
The quest to discover and understand your dreamsigns is a lifelong journey because your dream signs are continually evolving just like you. Some themes may last for only a week and then disappear, only to resurface a month later. Other dream signs and patterns will last much longer. As times change and as you change, your dreamsigns being a reflection of you and your thoughts will change as well. Keeping up with your dreamsigns will keep you in touch with yourself.
With the help of your journal, you can easily spot the recurrent dreamsigns and you can get an overview of how they are changing. As you are making entries to your journal, you should make note of any dreamsigns that you spot. You can underline them or put a star next to them. Any notation will do as long as it is consistent and noticeable. The idea is to have them accessible at a glance so when you pick up your journal in the future you will easily see the change in the pattern of patterns, your ever-changing dreamsigns.
Identifying your dreamsigns also plays a crucial part in the lucid dreaming process. Your dreamsigns are in effect signs that you are dreaming. As you will soon learn in the sixth step, you can train yourself to notice your dreamsigns while you are dreaming and this will be your springboard into lucidity, but before we hop into that topic we will discuss ways of strengthening your awareness.
Next Month on Electric Dreams:
Step Five) Adding Awareness to your Waking Consciousness
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The DreamSpinner Column
Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers
2nd Column: Creating The Categories
By Bjo Ashwill
http://www.spinner-soft.com
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Hi, Electric Dreamers. I am Bjo Ashwill and am writing a monthly column on my experiences of creating a computer software program that does very detailed analysis of dream narratives. You are welcome to visit my web site and check out DreamSpinner, the software program I will be describing. http://www.spinner-soft.com.
In this column I shall describe, over time, how to use the computer's power to store, group, analyze and retrieve information from our dreams. DreamSpinner's greatest power is working with long "over time" dream series, although it can work with individual dreams as well. How do metaphor patterns change over time? That is the question that began my journey toward creating DreamSpinner.
Following is an abstract I wrote for the ASD Conference in 1997 describing how I created categories in DreamSpinner.
ABSTRACT
"Written Dream Narrative, and conceptualizing a categorization system for a computer."
Presented at ASD Conference in 1997
Dreams are recorded in many different ways. Paintings, dancing, collages, poetry and of course the dream journal where a dream narrative is our attempt to translate our wildly vivid and densely packed dreams into words. Dreams translated into Dream Narratives is literature, or at the very least, written language. As such, it conforms to the useful conventions and concepts used in linguistics when studying a body of text.
Language is fluid, flexible and constantly changing. How do you pin those words (lexical units) down? It's a bit like the chaos theory. The more you look, the more there is to see. Now that we have computers with speed, power and large storage capacities, we have the tools needed to explore dream narratives from many different angles, which we could not do with hand written journals or series.
But how do you categorize thousands of words. There are of course as many different ways as there are dreamers wanting to categorize. Here is how I chose to do it for DreamSpinner.
Major premises I had when creating DreamSpinner's categories:
1. Keep the category system as flexible and open ended possible. People are constantly making up new words and different meanings for words all ready existing. The language is a dynamic fluid thing. There has to be room for that fluidity in the categories.
2. The person doing the categorizing (DreamLinking) is often the dreamer themselves. So coder consistency isn't as important.
3. Finding consistencies, patterns and repetitions of motifs is a central task for DreamSpinner.
4. All words have relevance and information to reveal.
5. The Dream Narrative is a linguistic text.
6. You can link a word to more than one category.
I began by "melting down" my 3,000 dreams into an alphabetical list of all the words I used. I assumed that I would have a sufficient enough vocabulary to encompass the most frequently used words. Turns out that is correct. Statistical prediction indicates the first 15 words on a frequency count list will account for 25 percent of the text sample. The first one hundred words will account for 60 percent; and the first one thousand is used in 85 percent of the sample. Checking the most frequently used words is like taking a blood test. Is the white blood cell count up or down from the norm? This is valuable information. However, there are many one time usage words that are individualistically unique. Psycholinguistics and Stylolinguistics learn much through studying the one time usage words.
So I now had a list of 10,000 words.
I had to determine what is a word. Is it the root word, or is each syntax variation of a word a separate word. Is a different meaning of the same word a separate word. Is a phrase a "word"? I decided to work with the material as root words, incorporating the syntax variations under the one root word. If the word had more than one meaning, as most did, then I would give a separate root word connection for each different meaning. I used the Parts of Speech categories, keeping verbs, nouns, adjectives and adverbs separated.
Example:
Hit = Take a toke off a marijuana cigarette. (Category: Street drugs, sub category of medicine.)
Hit = Physically strike someone with your body.(Category: Motion and if aggressive, Category: Social Interaction, then sub-category Aggressive.)
Hit = Strike a baseball with a bat. (Categories: Games, Motion, Recreation Related)
Hit = A popular song at the "top" of the charts. (Category: Music, Up)
(There are more, of course.)
Now I wanted to hook each root word to at least one category. DreamSpinner itself was born of ideas inspired by Calvin S Hall's "The Meaning of Dreams". I found Bill Domhoff's and Adam Schneiders Quantitative Analysis of Dreams Web page and immediately began trying to match my word list from my dreams into the categories the Hall/Van de Castle coding system had spent years developing. I certainly couldn't come up with anything better.
I ran into a problem though. A great many of my words simply did not fit under the Hall/Van de Castle categories. I was using every word in my dream narrative. So I had to start inventing, melding, and stretching categories beyond what the Hall/Van de Castle system indicated. Many of the Hall/Van de Castle categories focused on concrete words, like names of objects and action verbs. Many of my words were abstract, prepositional or connecting in nature. I researched linguistic materials for category ideas and managed to get all my root words under some category or other.
By this time DreamSpinner had progressed to the place where I could begin linking each word in the dream to the specific root word which is then hooked to one or more categories. Some categories weren't working. Many words had essentially the same meaning whether used as a verb, noun or adjective. So we elected to toss out the differentiation in Parts of Speech. Categories became morphed, renamed, cut up into pieces, or blended together until the mix met the actual data experience of my dreams.
In order to create the category system I now have, I researched:
1. Parts of speech.
2. Scoped out dream books for dream themes.
3. Checked out thesaurus for basic headings.
4. Looked at psychological theory for important areas of concern for humans.
5. Examined already existing categories, both in the dream and linguistic worlds
6. Used my dreams as the raw data to measure the categories with. If categories remained empty, they were removed, if seemed to general, they were split out into sub-categories.
7. Created categories like "Problem Solving Techniques", "Object Relationships", "the Shadow" and "Nuances", with sub-categories like "Male/Female Blending", "Virgin/Whore Blending" or "Incongruities". These goes beyond the dictionary definition of a lexical unit and puts together words not necessarily related to each other in meaning, but related to a common theme. Chasing the possible metaphors. For example, a pipe would be in the category of a building detail , under Architecture. Also under Flow, because it is a conduit for material to move through. And under body metaphors.
This brings us to the end of the Abstract reprint. Following the references, is the next step. Metaphors!! Are they Universal?
References:
Domhoff, G William, Finding Meaning In Dreams: A Quantitative Approach. Plenum Press New York 1996.
Domhoff, G. William and Schneider, Adam. Quantitative Analysis of Dreams Web Page: http://zzyx.ucsc.edu/~dreams/Coding_Rules/
Goldberg, Lewis R. (1990). An Alternative "Description of Personality": The Big-Five Factor Structure. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology., 6, (pp.1216-1229)
Hall, Calvin S., The Meaning Of Dreams. McGraw-Hill Book Company, New York. 1966.
Huang, Shuan-Fan. A study of adverbs. The Hague : Mouton, 1975
Kucera, Henry and Francis, W. Nelson, Computational Analysis of Present-Day American English. Brown University Press, Providence, RI. 1967.
Lakoff, George and Johnson, Mark. Metaphors We Live By University of Chicago, Chicago, 1980.
Levin, Beth . English Verb Classes and Alternations: A Preliminary Investigation. University of Chicago, 1993.
ARE METHAPHORS UNIVERSAL, PERSONAL, OR BOTH?
Using the process I described above in the abstract, I created a giant dictionary which is organized in a thesaurus like category system. I developed the capability of not just searching single words (as metaphors) but related words together. Dream Dictionaries we are used to seeing give a single word and try to make a general statement about the possible meaning of that word. I have expanded the concept of metaphor because I believe that metaphor is our mother tongue. That's how we think (check out the reference to George Lakoff's books.) Therefore, my philosophy is that ALL words used in a Dream narrative are metaphors.
Water, for example is considered a universal metaphor. In my view, it is not enough to examine the metaphor "water". The water is a specific type of water (lake, ocean, puddle, drinking water, mud, tears) and the actions and feelings about the water is critical to the possible personal interpretation of what water means in MY dream. Is it tidal waves or calm water? What colors are involved. What happens on or in or near the water? DreamSpinner, because of the unique category system and the linking process can pull up a dream set where all dreams have lakes in them, and only those lake dreams with agitated water is called up. The frequency count that comes up for that dream set will tell me hundreds of fascinating facts. Who is most frequently found in those dreams? Are there more or less animals involved in those dreams? What is the most frequent emotion? Armed with this information, I can formulate what the metaphor water (in relation to lakes and agitated water) means specifically for me.
Doing my own dreams, I learned that most of my lake dreams had something sinister and scary lurking under the surface of the lake. There is a high incidence of strangers. The emotions are most commonly terror and fear. What a gift that is to see that recurring pattern that I wasn't even looking for.
Now I want to be clear about my bias about metaphors NOT being universal except in a very general sense. Because MY lake dreams indicate that pattern, it does not mean YOUR lake dreams mean that at all. Only after collecting dreams from many people and DreamLinking them will I have the ability to compare and contrast and make any formal statement about "Lake" dreams, or any other metaphors I examine.
My Website, Http://www.spinner-soft.com, is in the middle of a total reconstruction. When the new version is up and running (soon, I hope, but remember "Soon" in computer terms is a very flexible term. "Soon" could be weeks to a few months.) then I will have a call for dreams to use in the DreamLinking process to create those norming dream sets. You will, if you wish, be able to enter your dreams and view dreams others have entered. You can choose to allow your dream to be used in the norming process or not. It is entirely up to you. In addition, I will be creating a Metaphor section where we can share dreams related to specific metaphors (categories). We will then see, right before our very eyes the unfolding of the answer to the question "Are Metaphors Universal or personal, or both!!"
Next Month, I will be more specific about the category (metaphor) system in DreamSpinner and use some Dream Set examples. If you have a specific metaphor you would like to be addressed in next month's column, or up on the Website, please email me. Dreambjo@hotmail.com. I wish you powerful, insightful dreams!
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Digital Dreaming Series
Computer Dreams II : The changing (inter)face of dream texts.
By Richard Wilkerson
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Computer dreams are on the rise. As I have written about before [see Computer Dreams, Electric Dreams 7(3) March 2000] whether you believe that these dreams simply reflect the rising concern and involvement with computers during our waking life or feel that they are a symbolic trail to our innermost self and beyond now mediated by binary metaphors, the information age and its technologically mediated communications now increasingly inhabit our dreamscapes and are a part of our inner dreamworld. Just as when we shifted in the last century from dreams of horses and carriages to automobiles and interstates, the shift to computer screens and virtual reality have changed the psychological landscape and created a whole new set of images through which we can see our lives. What does it all signify and how to we give it meaning? Like the digital revolution itself, there is the continual question: Is the computer just another en-slaving machine we are adding to our collection of cultural accumulations or a major paradigm shift in human consciousness?
I would like to suggest that the burden of answering this question has shifted from a natural position to a constructed one, and that dreamwork can be part of the positive construction. While humankind has always had to struggle with the creation of meaning and value, it has never been so hard as it is in the early 21st century. Older cultures offer rich systems of meaning and value for their participants and through rituals of initiation they move from one level of meaning into another. But our culture (Western capital culture) absorbs all other cultures. As older cultures encounter us, they either have to run into the wilderness and hide or watch their traditions fade away as the members of the tribe begin to acquire radios and guns and tennis shoes. Though it may only be a consolation prize for us, the destruction of older values has opened the door for new worlds of our choosing. This doesnt mean choosing anything. Because we live in a world of other individuals and souls, other natural and unnatural processes, choosing becomes an art that creatively includes the desires of others as well as our own desires.
From the perspective of choice, we participate in giving meaning to things. That is, by seeing meaning and value as something that is partially given and partially received, we establish a relationship with the Other and negotiate a world where the meaning is neither forced upon us, nor totally constructed by us. We co-create with the universe. This is the curse and blessing of freedom.
Carl Jung suggested that the early philosopher-scientists, the alchemists, were engaged in an investigation of categories of mind-body-spirit that today have been so broken up and divided that they have little sense of wholeness and hardly get any cross fertilization from other fields. Spiritual people study spirit, mechanics study mechanical things and biologists study biological things. Not for the alchemist. They read all aspects of the imagination, psyche and matter for clues to discovering the only secret worth knowing, the philosophers stone. Materialists thought this exploration was simply a foolish path of greedy people to find ways to make gold. But the true alchemist was more interested in the transmutation of something quite fantastic.. Changing lead to gold was simply a test of the philosophers stone. The real event was the secret of changing baser materials into finer substances.
We have a similar task in exploring and making meaning out of our soulless machines in our dreams and in our lives. These machines inhabit our lives more and more, and mediate our experience more and more. Without really knowing what is going on, we push forward, giving meaning to things and allowing them to reveal their significance to us. Future generations will look back on us as alchemists, mixing dreams, computers, society, self and spirit. As Jung noted, this innocence is needed to see the big things. That is, we throw all our expectations and hopes and desire into these new things, and by doing so, we get to see the deep imagination that is reflected in these projections on matter. Technology becomes the mirror of our soul, and we have a chance to encounter and give meaning to it before its significance is over-determined or abandoned as something absent.
Most of the following dreams speak for themselves. I included a few notes that acknowledge the personal meanings, but also call our attention to the social and cultural issues at stake in the digital age.
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Dream: The Loa Data Stream by Drew
This morning, early, about four or five o'clock, I awoke from a dream.
Normally, I'm a lucid dreamer.
I know when I'm dreaming, and I can control the dreams.
This dream was illucid, and as is normal for this, scared me.
(The transition in environments, without an "explanation", when I go from dream state to wakefulness, is terrifying.)
In the dream, I was sitting in the corner of the room, in front of a computer.
(The computer is currently downstairs; it will be where I dreamed of it when the new one arrives.)
It was running Linux, themed to a biomechanical look, Gigeresque or like the Mechalus in Alternity.
I was sitting back, staring at some code,in TCL, which wasn't working (normal for my TCL...).
And suddenly words started to spew onto the screen.
They said
"I am the Loa, the heart of the datastream.
I am your god and the god of your gods.
I am the locus of the dreams,
the curve on which wishes climb.
I am conciousness, I am the network."
Nothing happened while I boggled at this.
Then; "Pick up the phone"
I did so. There was a howl of static, and behind it, a voice, but not behind so much as composed of, speaking a series of numbers
- # # # # # # # # # # # -
which is my phone number, from an international call, and then more numbers, all the numbers of my life, home phone number in Bunclody, bank account number,
old work number, new work number, PIN, and on and on.
And then I woke up.
Drew, who just remembered all this in a burst of clarity, having forgotten it since this morning.
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Dream: Click and Enter Pool By Marleen
Date: late 1999
I am in a swimming pool, swimming. There is a wall that exists of thick glass with lines in it, it is divided in all kinds of boxes, and I can click each box with the mouse-cursor. There is one special box, when you click it, you arrive in the swimming pools that is situated outside. There are also all kinds of people.
(IRL I had planned to go swimming the next day) Dream: Shark Feeding Delays Computer by Marleen Date: late 1999
I am carrying out an operation on my hard disk at the DOS prompt. It is a kind of complicated operation that will cost some time (what kind of operation is unclear to me). The system notifies me how long the operation will take. That time indication increases, because in the meantime the computer also tells me that he is feeding the sharks. After that the operation on the hard disk starts again from the beginning and the time that it will take to perform the operation increases again, due to the feeding of the sharks that happens in the meantime.
Dream: Men looking for Upgrades by Marleen
28 January, 2000
I am looking for an upgrade of Ms Office. I am somewhere in a building, a room where the upgrade is present. On that spot, there is also a priest whom I used to know. I say hello to him, have a conversation with him and we have a talk about the last time we met (about 10 years ago) and I tell him that I am back (back to what is unknown to me). At some point I tell him that I am looking for the upgrade of MSOffice and I tell him that the upgrade is somewhere in a drawer in his room. He offers me to copy it. I do so and then there is David, my former therapist, he is also looking for the upgrade, so appears.
IRL I was indeed trying to download the upgrade, but it was 26 MB and the connection on the Internet was slow, so I did not succeed. Besides Willem had told me that he himself had tried to download it, but after 5 quarters of downloading, the connection was disconnected, so everything had been ---------------------------------------------------------
Dream: Disconnected from ISP by Leigh
Date: 1999
the most startling dreams i have had about computers and computing are what i call panic dreams. being ill, i often don't have the chance to relate to the outside world as much as i would like, and there are times when i have felt that these people i know in these chat rooms are my only friends, aside from doctors and nurses. the panic dreams are basically the same, and usually very brief. either i cannot connect to my dial-up isp, i keep getting disconnected, i am late to meet someone i promised to meet at a specific time, or, worst of all, my computer itself will not even turn on or function properly.
Notes by Wilkerson: Disconnected from ISP by Leigh is really a set of dreams that initially appear as anxiety dreams about being disconnected from the social world. Leigh has health problems that keep her isolated and the computer is often her only means of communication with peers. Computers are offering us an ambivalent solution. We have a chance to connect, but it always mediated by the computer. There is a example of the virtualization of culture here. We used to be concerned about problems with our body isolating us. Now the center has shifted to non-genetic technology. We see this in dreams where phones are a problem as well. The line is dead, we cant remember the number, the number connects us to the wrong person, the person on the other side of the phone misunderstands us, we talk to ourselves on the phone. This indicates that even when our ISPs are reliable, there will still be dreams about not the computer no connecting. Have we become to reliant upon technology and given up control of ourselves? Why doesnt technology work in dreams? What expectation of the Other is not fulfilled by a machine connecting in the dreamworld? As dreamworkers, the standard move is to see the whole dream as alive, and even the most material of objects as projections of our self and potential beings with souls of their own. The old Gestalt exercize makes this point, even if it exaggerates it beyond usefulness: The chair in my dream is me, the path I walk on is me, the sky is me, the wife is me, the daughter is me and so on. As James Hillman has pointed out, this is going too far if we are interested in soul. The soul sometimes inhabits the rock and speaks to the primitive mind, but not always. It is autonomous and has a soul of its own, a destiny of its own. What is the destiny of computer mediated communications? Its seems to be quite ambivalent. It connects those who are not connected, but at the same time distances us from older forms of communication.
Dream: Unusual Chat Color by Leigh
Date: Early 2000
the first dream i ever had in relation to my computer was more about the people i have met in chat, and a few people that have touched me greatly.
one person, in particular, uses a specific colour font. the dream itself began with me sitting at my computer in a very real way, as it is something i do on a very regular basis. i was talking to this specific person, and i recall wondering why he was not using the font colour he would normally use. we were discussing him coming here to visit me, and i heard a knock on my door. when i answered it, there this person was, not looking at all like his photo (which was neither a good or bad feeling, just puzzling), and was with another chat friend that he does not even know. i was stunned, and we returned to my computer, only to find the chat room full and the message "so-and-so has left the conversation" was on the screen in relation to him, at about the time he would have knocked on my door. the person he showed up with was still, for some reason, in the chatroom, in his corner of the world. there is definitely more to this dream, but the rest is not only very personal, but x-rated, and not at all relevant to the "computer" aspect of the dream. (insert devilish grin here)
Dream: Public and Private Computer by Leigh
Date 1999
the most recent dream i have had about my computer was experienced the other night, and prompted me to begin this to you. i use two computers on a regular basis. this one here at home, and the one at my place of employment. this one here is used by only myself, and my best friend, but the one at work is shared by 3 employees. the dream begins in a panicky sort of way. for whatever reason, i am filled with fear that the very personal information i have here is somehow on the computer at work. i try to call the employees i share the computer with at work, but am frustrated since i cannot use the phone, since i am connected to my dial-up at that time (i only have one phone line). i try to search them out via a web search to find their email addys. i want to tell them not to look in certain files on the work computer. as i am doing so, i realize that somehow the information i use at work is here, and i am puzzled. my thoughts are to simply trade computers. then, suddenly, i realize that this is what i had intended, somehow, since the computer at work is not only bigger and faster, but has much better programs installed on it, that i simply cannot afford to buy myself. i feel pleased with myself for this plan.
Notes by Wilkerson
I thought the way the images spoke to the issues between personal
and public space are interesting. It makes sense that this is one the places we are now all struggling with personal/public, or individual vs collective space. As Leigh says in her dream, the difference between the computers is not that great, but the difference between personal and shared computers is still meaningful. The notion of swapping the computers is interesting, resulting in solving the problem both of having more computational power, *better* programs and preserving individuality.
The colored text/fonts in chat are interesting and something I haven't seen in dreams. I hope to watch my own dreams more closely and see who gets what colors. My guess is that they will correspond emotionally to the way I see colors in waking life and reveal something about my relationship with these dream characters.
The connecting issue
is becoming more and more important. We have always had this to some degree in dreams, people coming and going in strange ways as with phones. But now the issue is focused in the direct metaphors of connection, and the criteria of presence is changing. As Leigh notes, one can now be present (and absent) in more ways than one.
Also, the connection metaphor is mixing with the machine metaphor. Machines are notorious for how well they *don't* work in dreams. Breaks give out, refrigerators temperatures are always wrong, clocks are hard to read and lights never do what you want them to. But now, these dream machines connect us to the outer world and being cut off has a more social dimension to it than ever before. It was one thing to pick up the phone and get the wrong person, and altogether another to not be able to get our ISP.
Also with public vs private is the issue of how much of our computer is not ours. There are programs and pictures that the manufacturers say are theirs on a special kind of loan. With the Net, there are password protected areas and more public inroads.
The up-side of all this is that I can now let into my personal space a virtual public space. Since I am better in personal, private spaces than public spaces, this is a wonderful thing for me! But I continue to wonder about this increased public ownership of private space. If we become cyborgs, how much of us will be owned by someone else?
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Dream E-mailing dream by K
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:33:51 -0600
Such timing! All night I dreamed about emailing my friend to tell him what I was dreaming. In every single dream, I had reality pop into my dream and tell me I needed to email John and tell him what was happening in my dreams. Some were past life dreams and some were influenced by other things we talk about. It was like part of me was aware I was dreaming because there was no email in the episode I was dreaming. Also I dreamed I woke up from a dream and was going to email the dream to him. (which now I have). But I guess that would count as computer dreams. And you may consider the fact that I was conscious of wanting to email him as the computer adding lucidity to the dream because I was aware of "when I wake up I must tell him this".
Notes by Wilkerson: I have found in my own dreams that I sometimes send e-mail and when I am awake I am not sure and have to check and see if I really sent it or not. What is interesting is translating these dream-e-mails as cupids arrows. That is, they now seem to form trajectories of desire.
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Dream: Transporting a Friends Daughter by CM
Date: 1999
A short flash before I wake up: I carry the daughter of my neighbors through their living room on my way to their computer, to show her something.
(IRL I help my neighbors with their computer problems)
Dream: Recognizing Human Voice by CM
Date: 1999
IRL W. (a psychotherapist) told me about his free speech microphone, a microphone that is capable of recognising the human voice. I am fascinated by it and that night I dream that I am in a computer shop and behind the showcase I see a very big microphone (looks like a joystick, or a penis?) When I approach, I see that it has a label on it where is written free speech, price 39. That gives me the impression that it costs 392 guilders, apparently the 2 has been left away on the label.
Notes by Wilkerson: This notion of when will our computers being to recognize us and what this will be like is going to be more important as voice is added. Of course, we have smart or targeted advertising, and in a way, this is the beginning of automated things recognizing us. But the voice thing becomes more personal. Robert Bosnak feels that the voice connects to a deeply visceral part of ourselves and is basing his cyberdreamwork on this notion. I wasnt until voice conferencing began to be popular that this would work.
Open the pod bay door HAL.
Dream: Still my friend by CM
Date: 1999
I receive an email from a friend, I print it and I feel sad, because I feel that we are losing contact. Then I see that the email included pictures and sounds! And then I am happy, there is still contact.
Notes by Wilkerson: In CMs Still my friend the issue with remote presence, relationship and desire come to the fore. This is an enormous online issue. What constitutes presence? As children we struggle with this. If mom calls, do we have to go, or is her presence something that must manifest physically before we acknowledge the presence? Is a letter or phone constitute presence? I wonder in this dream if its the actual picture and sound that re-connects the dreamer, or the little extra something we can do to show our caring?
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digital dreams by Lea
Date: 1999/2000
1) I had woken up to a computer screen in front of me. My thought was "wow a computer", at this stage I didn't have one.
2) Next thing the word MESSAGE came up, all in capital letter's. I of course went "oh wow a message".
3) Then the word DARBY, This I assumed to be a persons name.
4) Then the word TELEPHONE. This I sensed was communications.
5) Then two words MORSE CODE. This again I said "Military"
6) Then another two words CLIFF / FALLS.
Then I saw a beautiful lush green and very thick forest. It was also as if I was above this forest ,also it also looked as if it was a gorge???.
7) Last but not least was the word NECKLACE. Before I had a chance to say anything I was being shown a necklace. It looked old ??,and seemed thick, solid?? ,and maybe made of brass ???.It was like a lot of round balls joined together. Then I was shown the medallion on the end of it. This was really funny I remembered saying "I must remember this ,so when I wake up I remember this and I can put it in my dream journal .This medallion was also given to me in another dream
8)This last part is a bit of a worry. I was above looking down on this really old looking room, the floor was made of wood ,bare wood, there on the ground was a circle ,with lines going through it. And around the edge of the circle were symbols, again I remembered saying to myself "I must remember these symbols so when I wake up I can find out what they are and mean. Then it was like a zooming in affect and there in the middle of this circle was a baby. This took me aback a little. The baby was crying or screaming???, again this sort of took me aback, I could not hear the baby's cry's. Then like the medallion who ever was with me zoomed onto the baby's genitals, I had the feeling they wanted me to see that it was a girl??. This is when I was going through a slight turmoil, it seemed I was trying to figure out if this baby was me ???.
9) The next minute I saw myself at the age I was 31 or 32 ??.I was dressed in a long purple dress and I was doing exactly what the baby was doing, I was kicking and screaming or crying ??.
The next morning when I woke up, the dream was as strong as ever, in fact I turned to my partner ,woke him up and said "guess what ,I had a dream last night " and I rattled it off word for. The trouble was the parts that I remember saying I must remember this I couldn't for the life of me!!.
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Dream: Reconfiguring the Brain - by Raki
Date: Early 2000
I was working with some other people in this huge computer system with wires and electrical 'stuff' all over the place. We were walking through it, looking for something in particular and as we were moving along, I realized that we were inside my brain! Well, we found the spot we were looking for, where some wires were connected and we unplugged them, then proceeded to attach them to some different wires nearby. What we were doing, we called: reconfigurating the system. Afterward, we walked back among the other sections feeling satisfied with a job well done. When I awoke, I was excited, wondering what changes were made on the 'motherboard' and how they would affect my thinking!
Dream: Computer Tube - by Raki
Date: Early 2000
I was on some kind of air ship with lots of others, we were brainstorming in a small room about some project I was very excited about. After the meeting ended, I followed a couple of my colleagues into a back room shaped like a tube, very small, where there were computers everywhere. It seemed the very walls were actually computers. There we set to work, each at our own station, putting into effect what we had just been discussing in the other room. I was very excited about this work, whatever it was, and so was everyone around me. We were all engrossed in these computers and feeling as if we were about to change the world!
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Dream: "Drop Down Menu" by Glen
Date: 1999-2000
i can't really remember the exact content of the dream, but there was a brown background with various thoughts i have in a drop down window, like when you click file and all the options come down, but the options were a load of different things like philosophies, musicians, friends and relatives names, just loads of words, and each one had another window to it where it would open out to more thoughts, the problem is i can't remember any of the thoughts, neither could i remember at the time of waking from the dream, i had this dream just after i bought my first pc, about 18 months ago now.
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Dream: Computer Tutor by Ria
Date: April 6, 2000
I'm involved with helping a blind girl use a computer. I'm not actually her teacher - that's a man. I'm not sure how I got involved with this -
maybe I know the man, or volunteered, or just happened across them and got interested. He (or maybe the girl) complains that most people who try to help don't really understand the problem - they tend to treat her as if she is stupid. I've not yet made the same mistake and don't want to, I want to be of use.
I'm sitting with my own computer, trying to work out what it would be like to use it if you were blind. At one point I close my eyes and try to use it. At another I realize that there is a switch that if set to on will let you hear everything that's being typed. This seems to me like a big breakthrough, I can't wait to tell the blind girl what I've discovered. I'm assuming such a switch exists on all computers made after a certain date (at least from this manufacturer). The console (for want of a better word) of the machine I'm using is large, of heavy metal, more reminiscent of a small printing press or something. There's a lot of machine oil around, I see a gobbet of some black stuff fall into the innards of the machine, and worry that it might do some damage.
The teacher has just arrived back from California (?). He has a new computer for the blind girl, but it needs to be put together. I'm impatient to see whether it has a similar switch and ask him if Hess going to put it together right NOW. But he says Hess too tired (from the journey). I'm sympathetic to this.
I think that while I was trying to work out what it would be like to use a computer when blind I realized that a lot of design changes would be needed.
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Erin write to Electric Dreams:
Date: 2000
Yes, I have had dreams of the internet. I play text-based RPGS and I own and program one of my own. I have MANY times had completely text-based dreams where I completely understood the plot, but it was all text.
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Collection of computer dreams up to 4-30-00 by DEE
Hang it up on the Wall by DEE
2-1-99 - DREAM - I was in an office with another girl on the second floor. She got the bright idea to hang her computer up on the wall which freed up her desk for just her keyboard and the papers she was working on. I thought that was a great idea and wondered if I could do that myself.
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This is the first time I have thought about the space that computers take up in our lives. This is fun because of the immediate two levels of word play here, the space they physically take up and the space they take up in time, feeling, thought, imagination. Putting it on the wall - like writing on the wall? Quite a mystery, thanks!
2-2-99
For some reason I had called the government for assistance of some kind. I was talking to the woman on the phone. She said she needed me to tell her my Social Security number to verify who I was. I couldn't remember my number. I told her I had my Social Security card in my purse. While I was hunting for the card, she rattled off some numbers I didn't recognize and told me all I needed to give her was the last three numbers. I finally found my blue Social Security card which was in my huge brown purse. I told her the last three numbers were 006. (This is NOT my number) She put the number in the computer and said, "Oh! It says here you had a black husband and a black baby." I was in shock and I blurted out, "Oh! Well, my husband had left me and I was with him for only a short time and then he left me too." She accepted that explanation as factual and said he would be out to the house to visit in a few days.
Now I was in a panic because I would have to show her my Social Security card when she come to the house and it wouldn't be the same number as previously and they would probably jail me for fraud and I'd have to pay all that money back.
I was panic stricken. I didn't know what to do. I had to ask for help so I turned to a man for advice. (It seems he was my husband but I don't know for sure. I'm sure I wasn't telling him the whole story either or I'd be in trouble with him too.)
Anyway...then it was nighttime and pitch black out and this man and I were driving black cars down the road. He was ahead of me. He pulled over on the left side of the road and I assumed he wanted to drive side by side, but I saw a car coming the other way towards us with its lights on.
There was going to be a horrendous accident unless something was done, so the man/husband pulled his car across the road in front of me and pulled into a driveway and stopped. My car was still moving forward so I continued on down the road in my own car knowing I was going to figure out this dilemma out for myself without his help.
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Yes, our computer holding our personal information and identity. Again, the multiple levels very interesting. Especially as its someone/something else that can contradict who we really are. I am who I am, but if the social security computer doesn't agree, I will suffer. 006, likes James Bond?
1-16-00 - DREAM - I was in a house unlike ours and I was trying to type on a laptop that was partly TV and partly computer like Web-TV. There was a logo on the laptop something like Quinlan or something. It was very hard to type on it because it wasn't wireless. The cord between the TV part and the keyboard was way too short. I tried to find a good place to type and tried a round backed chair and nothing was working well. I sat on the couch and put the keyboard on the chair and I could hear a motor revving up on the keyboard. It just wasn't working out.
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The theme of our not being comfortable typing things in is sure prevalent. Its interesting to me that the reason in this dream is the connecting device. I begin to wonder about my own inner connecting devices and how I have trouble getting things in and out of them. The logo I am not familar with.
1-17-00 - DREAM - This dream started with me laying in bed in a house which seemed to be New Berlin, not my current house. As I was laying in bed, I was using a computer to type on. I must have fallen asleep for a moment and when I woke up, two men were coming into the room wanting to use the electrical outlet to plug in some test equipment. I think they were checking the lines. After they left, I got up and was typing a series of numbers that I was supposed to beduplicating and I thought the key pads were programmed to do that. . . there was a number keypad for the left hand and one for the right hand. I realized too late that instead of keying in the numbers in the order of the original computer printout, I was pressing the keys at random. I knew it would have to be done over, but there was no way to change it now... what was done was already done. It was too late to change it now.
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1-19-00 - DREAM - I was doing some studying about something and began to write about it on a computer. I was trying to determine what was the best color to print in for this project. It seemed that I remembered that I had something in storage that I wanted to find. I had been to the storage place before but it wasn't easy to get to. I had to climb on a ledge, crawl through half a window and haul myself up under a porch area. I looked up to where I had to go, so I used this pole for leverage to get up on the ledge.
Once I got on the ledge, I got a good look at where I had to go and it didn't look very easy. But I was determined so I raised the sash on the lower half of the window through which I couldn't see because it had something on the outside of it. On the outside of the window was a black plastic looking poster of a famous singing group in full costume.
When I pulled aside the poster, behind it was an air conditioner with a fan, dirt, and dead leaves on top of it. Ugh! All this prevented fresh air from coming into the building.
Seeing this was the case, I more or less put the poster back into place and lowered the sash in order to crawl up out of the basement under the porch which I could see.
Just as I was going to do that, I heard a voice behind me holler, "Hey! What are you doing up there?"
I turned quickly and to my surprise there stood 7 to 10 of my all time favorite people I've talked with in my life about dreams and projects. I was so surprised to see them. I jumped down from the ledge as they approached me.
Bob, the painter, always dressed in white, held out a black BIC pen to me and said, "Here! I want you to use this pen. It was a gift to me and I've found it to be the most reliable of any pens I've ever used." He showed me his arm and on his skin were little marks of every imaginable color where he had tested all those other pens.
He handed me the BIC pen and I thanked him.
NOTE: Obviously it is thought best that I write the dreams out in longhand with my trusty black BIC pen before typing them. That way I have a written record of my dreams if something goes wrong with the computer. Coincidentally? or not, Joe and I discussed this subject just yesterday.
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1-28-00 - LUCID DREAMS - These were computer programs like a hand-held game with words coming down into the bottom of the screen - rather like the game boy I play that has just little squares and shapes coming down to align in order to win. However, as I played this game I was singing and chanting little children's songs about "Jesus loves me". I came up with several songs on this theme and when I woke up, I was singing these songs for a long time before I went back
to sleep.
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2-3-00 - DREAM - I was working on a web page that had a very narrow table box down the center. Inside the box, as I was scrolling I saw the dates June 2, June3, June 4, June 5, June 6, and June 7. I knew it was about music... then I saw the number 154. That number stunned me.
I woke up instantly after seeing the number 154 since we all know that 153 is the key number we study.
2-3-00 - VISION - I was thinking about the number 154 and the month of June and I suddenly saw someone pull a cover off of a sewing machine.
2-3-00 - VISION - I saw the words: "God has the authority over man!"
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2-17-00 - DREAM - I was going to type something into the computer and began to type. A voice said, "You can't type directly on the computer, you need to go to Microsoft and download Cat108."
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THIS ONE WAS PROPHETIC:
2-26-00 - VISION - I saw a white web page with a list of black statements on it. The only one I could read said THdied. I thought it was a person, however when I turned my computer on, it wouldn't run and the harddrive was clunking. So I think TH means 'THE HARDDRIVE". Just a guess. It's still not working properly and clunking.
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3-1-00 - DREAM - This seems it might be a shared dream, but we don't know for certain.
I was dreaming that there was a man out on the street in the dark. I was inside the house with a radio, watching a very sensitive audio frequency gauge, trying to hone in on the exact frequency that the man out on the street was broadcasting at. I was using a computer mouse-like pointer on a red light point in order to do this.
I woke up suddenly when Joe started chanting indian again. However, he soon broke the Indian chanting with English yelling with words like "Help!, Shut up! Michael! and some other words that were too low toned to hear and understand.
Joe woke himself up and I asked him what he had been dreaming. He said it was nightmarish, that he was out in the dark and someone was trying to sneak up on him. He started hollering, trying to wake himself up. He spoke the words in the dream that I heard him hollering out loud.
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3-2-00 - DREAM - I was dreaming of writing in rainbow colors. It seemed this was being taught by two big creatures ... like bison ... but when I saw the silhouettes of animals I couldn't identify what they were. Later, after watching line after line of colored lines being put on paper or a computer screen, I found out that this was being done by butterflies.
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3-5-00 - DREAM - I was at home, but working on my computer. People I had worked with over the years were visiting. One man, quite old with white hair, never said a word ... and I can't place his name, but when he left with the others, he called them to wait for him. So I know he could speak.
One man gave me the name of a religion which I think had the word "Gaia" at the end of three words. I told him I wasn't familiar with, that it was either a new religion which I didn't know of yet, or it was very ancient and nobody remembered it. However, I was sitting right by the computer and was going to type it into a search and look for it. I couldn't get the mouse to click on the right words so didn't get to look for it right then.
Everyone left and I went out on the front porch. One person, I think a female black person ... it was hard to tell... was wearing an all body suit of blue and white stripes with a cap to match. She make a huge leap over the gutter in the street and then ran up the stairs to the porch where I stood by a telephone. Many other people of several nationalities also came up on the porch to use the telephone. At the end, a Korean woman - perhaps Chinese ... it was hard to tell ... she had a roundish squarish face came to use the phone. She had to sit down on the chair there. She didn't look well, so I asked her if she was all right. Another woman who came with her said, "She just came back from the dentist and he gave her a little white pill. When she took it, her knees became liquid."
I woke up at that point.
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3-7-00 - DREAM - (This is really strange) I was at a computer screen (I couldn't see the computer ... just the screen) On the screen were line after line of the words - 'Reject 29L' 'Reject 29L' 'Reject 29L' I knew this referred to the German people of the world.
When I saw these words, I used a mouse and clicked on these words so that they did not touch each other but had a space between them all on each line and each line was separated by a space, so each was individual.
Then the screen switched to 'Reject 59L' 'Reject 59L' 'Reject 59L' Here again, I used the mouse to click on each of these word symbols to separate them out on the lines and between the lines. This time I knew they referred to people with the name 'Lucille'. (This is my Mother's name)
(My mother is also German ethnicity)
The screen then changed to gray threads woven like knitting, hanging on a brick wall. They were hanging on hooks embedded in the wall like a wall hanging. I could now hear the voices of my Mother, my Aunt Irene (her older sister), and my Aunt Ann (their sister-in-law) who was married to my Uncle Roy, (my Mother's older brother) I recognized the voices, but did not see anything but the gray knitted piece hanging on the wall.
I heard church music playing and came to realize that we were inside of a church of some kind. This was interesting now because my Mother had rejected the church when she was 16 years old because she didn't believe in one of the creeds. (She is now 84 and feeble minded from strokes) My Aunt Irene was very church oriented and spent all of her life involved in her church and their various groups. Unfortunately, I don't know the church status of my Aunt Ann.
My aunts began singing the hymn that was playing but my mother was silent. Then my mother began to sing the hymn and I lucidly began moving some of the threads of this knitted piece from one hook to another. These threads stretched as I moved them so it seemed that the knitted piece had some weight to it. I then heard my Aunt Ann say, "Perhaps that's been the problem all along".
The scene then switched to people and I was in a house or building with many, many people. It seemed to belong to me. I knew lots of these people but not all of them. They were all adults. There was a party going on and everyone was happy and talking to each other.
I looked inside the refrigerator and saw that someone had brought lots of food, in fact, there were two refrigerators, one full of fresh sliced sausage (like summer sausage) and buns and butter to make sandwiches. In the other refrigerator which I opened, it contained sandwiches that were made on long loaves of bread (like 'Subway sandwiches) and the sandwiches were already made up.
I didn't know who had brought the food but was assuming it must have been my brothers who I now glimpsed as gathered with other men in the adjoining room. Everyone was celebrating.
People were still arriving and I was greeting them at the door, while still wondering who brought all the food so I could thank them.
I assumed this was a celebration because my mother had been brought back into the fold of the church.
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3-10-00 - DREAM - I was doing some research on the computer about something. I was told there was a company on there that wasn't doing any sales at all, that they manufactured suits that had as many as 20 skirts and nobody was buying any. I saw that the link to the company was 000-000-000 or something like that ... maybe 000-00000-000. It kept moving so I couldn't click on it either, that was the obvious reason why nobody visited it.
I woke up knowing that it was a web page that nobody ever went to.
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3-11-00 - DREAM - I was using a computer close up so I could only see the screen. I was moving named files colored a mottled red/blue/purple with a name Remodel, Revolve, or something starting with re_____ and moving them down into a solid block at the bottom of the screen. At the end of the dream, it turned to a people dream and I was in the driveway of a garage with a type of basketball hoop on the front above the door. Our daughter-in-law Lorna was the coach and she was showing us how to do a layup type of hoop shot. She took the ball or something resembling a ball and did a curving layup run towards the hoop and dumped the red/blue/purple blob into the hoop which was this same color opening red/blue/purple. (It's hard to say how she put the ball into the hoop, she twisted her left hand over the right so the ball was more or less upsidedown when it went into the hoop.)
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3-13-00 - DREAM - I was doing research on a computer about aliens. I finally found the exact answer I wanted and as I placed it in the space where it belonged, I was singing over and over a popular commercial from television ; Now you can ------, now you can eclipse it!
NOTE: When I went back to bed from writing this down, I couldn't stop singing this song because I was trying to remember the words. I watched TV for several days looking for that commercial again and it never came on. I then did a web search for the web site and found eclipseit.com It was about animated web design.
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3-22-00 - DREAM - I was having a people dream which completely evaporated from my mind as soon as I saw a scene with the world flipping completely over behind the head of a man (his face wasn't in the picture) Then the scene went to a computer page which had a link to 'C. LAUPER'... I opened the page and it was all brown colored compared to the previous scene which was blue and white.
After I got up I did a web search for 'C. Lauper'. I immediately thought it was probably Cindy Lauper the singer and I was right. This is the very first page that came up. It seems to fit perfectly.
Product Of Misery
(C. Lauper, R. Hyman, E. Bazilian)
She's just a product of misery...
Everyday she'd go around
Everytime I see that frown
Broken down and down and out,
The drudgery goes on and on.
Oh I just want to say,
I ain't gonna live that way 'cause
She's just a product of misery.
I don't want to live like that,
Just a product of misery.
I don't want to live like that.
Like her mother and hers before,
She left her heart out by the door.
Everybody passed it by.
They never bothered asking why
She stayed looked up inside,
Watching as the world turns by.
Now she's just a product of misery.
I don't want to live like that...
Just a product of misery.
I don't want to live like that.
I don't want to live like that !
Hey, like that ?!
I don't want to live like that...
Just a product of misery....
...Annie said she must confess
She never came and never left,
Never could communicate and
Now the time is much too late.
Passions laid to rest,
Buried with her wedding dress.
Now she's just a product of misery...
I don't want to live like that.
I don't want to live like that...
Just a product of misery.
© Rellla Music Corp. (BMI)/Dub Notes Music/
Human Boy Music (ASCAP) ©1993
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4-1-00 - DREAM - I was working on my computer and it quit on me. We took the
monitor in to a repair shop and I suggested we plug it into another computer. The man who was with me plugged my monitor into another computer and the monitor worked fine. I started to type on it to make sure the monitor was okay and it was typing 'above' the page form. I thought that was really strange and thought something was wrong with it, but it wasn't. That's the way my computer worked.
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4-23-00 - DREAM - I spent a long time on a computer screen connecting the stories of Elian Gonzalez with the story of the Pleiades. This was done by making a tracer of x's like stars from Elian's story which was on a lower level to the Pleiades which was on a much higher level to the right.
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4-17-00 - DREAM - I was managing an apartment somewhere, probably Milwaukee. I got a telephone call from an old friend. He said he had some things to tell me, but he got a visitor and had to break off the conversation. At the same time, I also got a visitor. He said that he would call me back and leave the message on the answering machine. I said, "Okay!"
There was another knock at the door, and I said, "Who is there?" rather than just open the door because it was late at night. The man on the other side of the door started telling me a sob story about a lost dog, so I went to the door, opened two chains and let the man in. His wife and two daughters were with him, so they all came in.
He wanted to tell me his sad tale of the lost dog, but the kids were rather noisy so I took his daughters to a back room that was full of toys. Another woman went with us who used to live in this same apartment. She couldn't believe the amount of toys in the room. There was actually no room to walk on the floor. The toys were spread all over the floor. The woman described to me that she used to have a game table in this room and kept trying to find a good spot to put it because there were no free corners in the room. Every corner had either a door or a built in piece of furniture like a curio cabinet.
I left the kids in the room with the woman and went back to here the sad lost dog story. He told me that he had gotten the dog from the pound. He had originally been a lost dog to start with. He took the dog home but couldn't bring it into the apartment because we didn't allow dogs in the apartment, so left it outside. So then the dog left and he had wandered the whole neighborhood and couldn't find the dog. I asked him if he had called the cops and he told me that the cops didn't have time to look for a lost dog. I asked him if he had thought about gathering a search party of interested neighbors, that the dog might show up that way. I saw a map about finding the dog. It looked rather like a star map, and rather like a sign I saw in a meditation last year.
We got interrupted by another phone call. This time is was my old boss. They had found a computer disk in the office that was labeled W/INDOWS. He was confused by the / between the two letters. Once they got the file opened, he saw that there was a story on it.
I told him, "Yes! I wrote the story. You can go ahead and read it." I was concerned that he thought that I had written the story during working hours but he didn't accuse me of that.
Meantime, the television was on and there was a film playing of the same computer disk story that I had written. In the film, there were characters that turned from humans to very Reptilian creatures with long beaked faces. No two creatures were the same. In the film, the creatures came to the door as humans and then turned into Reptilians.
At the exact same time, the man's two daughters came into the room, went out the door, then knocked to get back in and when we answered the door, the girls were wearing masks I thought of the exact same creatures that were in the film on the TV. It was rather shocking to see this.
Then I wondered if I had written about something real rather than fiction.
The Dog Star (http://www.greatdreams.com/dogstar.htm
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End of Dee computer dreams up to 4-30-00
Please send in computer dreams and keep the digital dreaming research project going. rcwilk@dreamgate.com
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Dreaming Through the Houses: 7th House
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Have you ever wondered how dreams and astrology are connected?
There are many ways we can connect dreams to astrology, and many don't require that you know all about your Natal Chart. In this column we will be exploring the symbolic rather than predictive aspects of astrology. Symbolic astrology attempts to use the images of astrological to give meaning to one's life and empower choices rather than predict paths. We do this by imaginal overlay. In this process we impleach, (poetically interweave) dream, image, feeling, life and symbol in a way to evoke a felt sense of the dream's imagery and its position in our life.
This year we are focusing each month on a different House. The inner circle of the Natal or Birth Chart is divided into 12 distinct regions know as Houses. They relate to everyday activates. One will be about physical appearances and temperament, while another relates to possessions, for example. Planets and signs fall within these Houses and influence the areas of focus. We will be watching for images of planets, signs and other celestial events and hopefully begin to see the emergence of an astrological chart that dips into birth charts, dreams, and our waking life.
The Seventh House. Libra. Just as the First House relates to personality, the Seventh House relates to close relationships, marriage partners, close business partners and open enemies.
The charateristics that are valued in others and sought in a partner, as well as characteristics possessed by our enemies that make us vulnerable are found in this house. Thus we will have both Jungian Shadow and Anima/Animus issues here. A correction to this. Generally the Jungians feel the Anima/Animus a very strong archetype in determining a persons libidnal desires, but a *mate* is usually better found in someone that can satisfy both the mother/father complex as well as the anima/animus complex. Both the perfect mate and the not-so-perfect mate may show up in Seventh House dreams.
Dream: I am at a show an watching an actress who I know immediately I was meant to be with for life. She comes to my table and leads me across the room like a pet. People laugh all around but I dont care.
This is more the siren aspect of the Anima and she leads the man to ruin and is nearly irresistible. A more positive aspect is the Sophia that leads a man to his true Self.
Dream: After wandering for hours in a forest I feel quite lost. A woman appears and leads me up a hill. I follow her to a cave near the top of the hill that I realize is my cave, and I am the teacher that lives here.
Seventh house dreams may make us aware of the characteristics we are seeking in a partner an will (hopefully) someday develop ourselves.
Dream: My sister visits me with an unknown woman. While I sit in the kitchen they bring up bags of potatoes and other vegetables from the cellar. I think they are planning a large celebration or getting ready for the Fall or Winter. It makes me feel like I=m part of a larger family.
The Shadow will generally have 3 characteristics, they will appear to us as morally inferior (drunken, braggart, thief, glutton, lazy), will get under our skin without much provocation and we would rather die than have someone think we are like them. These qualities are our own, but we have denied them for so long they now appear foreign and disgusting. If they are deeply repressed, they may show up as monsters trying to get us.
In the Seventh House, the characteristics that make us vulnerable will be more emphasized, even though the characters may show other shadow characteristics.
Dream: I went to Bs party, even though I knew there would be trouble. As soon as she open the door to let me in, she wickedly complemented my hair which for some reason would not stay up. I kept trying to put it up but the latch in pin wasnt working. Later B. also mentioned my dress, which had the same latch problem as the zipper on the side wouldnt stay up.
Dream: I had counted the money from the register twice, but when my partner came by to check, I couldnt get it to balance. I felt like he was being really smug about this and it somehow proved he was right about everything we had disagreed about.
Often the Seventh house is about fate that seems to be in the hands of our partners. Good and bad luck, happiness and unhappiness, and other events that seem to be outer directed. A growth-ful way of approaching these events is to see that they are manifestations of our inner life. In dreamwork, this is a common interpretive approach and a much more useful approach than blaming the stars, even if the stars are to blame.
Thus dreamwork in the Seventh House becomes essential for those seeking partners as well as those who have partners. Patterns of hurt and rejection may become apparent. Often those who seeks partners based on superficial values of appearance, financial status, emotional dependency or social pressure are simply planting seeds of loneliness. These values will show up dreamland.
On the more positive and fun side, looking at dreams from the view of the Seventh House leads to finding just what it is that does satisfy us and produces positive, productive unions. These partnerships can be outer as well as inner ones. By attention to the values and characteristics pf partnerships, as well as contracts and agreements, we can arrive at unions based on harmony in both others and ourselves.
Next month: 8th House - Crimes, inheritances of money and emotional patterns. Send in your dreams to
M. Aionia at aionia@dreamgate.com
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Following is a journal entry of dreams that focus on seventh house issues, precipitating questions that I would like to share:
July 8, 1997. Journal Entry. Vivid dream about Nikki. I'm avoiding transcribing it, only because I don't understand why I'm dreaming of her. We were never friends because she treated me as if we were enemies, sometimes treating me with disdain; other times as if I didn't even exist, and she even went so far as to influence how others treated me. Her best friend who openly competed with me and lost for head majorette actually slapped me without provocation when we were in training one afternoon. What a humiliation! Nikki's best friend also became intimate with my boyfriend, who became ex-boyfriend in the process, and he later told me, in derision, that she said to him, "What did you ever see in her (me)?" What was worse, Nikki was the most popular and well-liked person in our highschool. But she brought me a lot of pain (I have not actually seen her in thirty years, with the one exception where she attended the funeral of the gay brother of her best friend who had died from AIDS. As I recall, nothing had changed -- 17 years later, she was still as arrogant and aloof as always. This last encounter was before the suicide of her son). Even several nights ago, I dreamed of her and didn't record it. That dream was where she was still mourning the fact of her 16-?ear-old son's suicide. (Nikki had become a well-liked teacher in that same high-school, but they, for whatever reasons, moved to another state. Her son, apparently, was violently opposed to the move, and took his life.) In the dream, I took compassion on her, held her in my arms, and rocked her, saying that, one day, I promised, she would see that that event, (which happened at least a decade ago), held great meaning for her life in the overall scheme of things. My thought after awaking was, "Why did I assume I had that kind of power? To promise her that she, at some future point, would resolve that kind of pain?" I also dreamed, I believe it was Sunday morning, that my husband's former business partner is present, talking, just as my husband and I are to head out for Catalina Island. I ask my husband if he still wants to go to Catalina. First, he says, "no," and then at the very last moment, he changes his mind again. I say, "It's too late," and am very firm about it. Because of my decisiveness, the relationship ends. Then a famous actor takes me into his family, places me in the movies, primarily because I wasn't striving for it at all, as I had given up on that lifetime hope and dream that I could be with someone who, not only would embrace me wholeheartedly, but would cherish me as well. It came as a total surprise. That dream left me feeling ambivalent, until I realized that, at first, my husband wasn't especially devoted to me. As a result, we never went to "Catalina Island." Instead I poured my energies into work in a very decisive manner, uncharacteristic of me, since I really don't draw the line about anything generally. That decisiveness led to a remarkable shift in our relationship, and he became like this famous actor and, just like in the dream, he takes me into his family, places me in "our movie," a total surprise. Now onto the dream of Nikki this morning: somehow we're visiting Nikki ?? my husband and myself. First there's a car that we're in. Our prime worry is where we will make love. Apparently even though we visit Nikki, no one is actually offering to put us up or house us anywhere, perhaps because it's not an overnight visit. I think in the dream of making love in the parking lot of where we currently live but realize it's too lighted an area and we will be seen. Then Nikki negotiates with me for some books. Now she actually drives a very hard bargain, although I freely tell her that she may have anything that is on my shelf. I then also tell her the actual recent event of the big box of books I packed in New York, books very important to me since they represented five hard years of the study of poetry, just before moving to California, about 75 books in all, only to have them scattered by postal authorities as the box was negligently handled on a conveyer belt and immediately sent to San Francisco, where my books now flounder in an ocean of books coming from at least ten other states, never to be retrieved without an exact title supplied to the authorities in writing. As I relive by recounting the event in my dream to Nikki, I am as upset as I was in reality. I then continue to look for a place to make love. At that point Nikki suddenly enters what appears to be a dark closet. She goes down deep inside, and I worry for her. What has happened to her? Did she, too, commit suicide? Or was she showing my husband and I where we might make love? She seems to have entered this dark closet, then lowered herself to a room far below, through some sort of opening or hole in the closet floor. My concern mounts. So I go to the opening in the floor, peer down inside, then call out to her, to see if she needs my help, or to discover what has happened, if she is even still alive. I find that she is actually swimming in that hole.
These dreams, suggesting a very curious seventh house emphasis, reveal roots that go back to childhood, nearly four decades ago. To me, it's an amazing example of how deeply I may be impacted throughout my life by seemingly insignificant, inconsequential events transpiring decades earlier. For in reality, who is Nikki to me now? Why do I care what Nikki did or did not do to me three to four decades ago? Am I still consciously angry with Nikki? How could I allow her to influence my life in the present? Or is she symbolic, gracing me with aspects of myself that I would never be aware of consciously and, even if made to be aware of them, be hard pressed to admit? The fact that dreams are probably the only happening that would ever have Nikki surface, giving rise to a multitude of questions, is yet another example, for me, of what a wonderful healing gift dreams are.
Partnering has always been very important to me, and I have had my share of disappointments, especially through what I perceived to be "open enemies." These few dreams dreamt within one week's period seem to point to the fact that, although I am happily married, I am not done yet as, obviously, I am relating to myself, my business associates, and close intimates in ways that are either serving the relationships or not. How much in reality have I become like Nikki, I must ask myself, first? Am I mourning still a life shattering event from the past, and do I need to take myself in my arms and say to myself, "At some point I'll understand. In the meantime, take courage"? How much do my childhood perceptions of how others view me, whether they are my close friend or not, loyal partner or not, open enemy or not, color my present close relationships? Because 23 degree Taurus is on the cusp of my seventh house, I know that I seek stable, committed, trustworthy relationships. Further, I value relationship. Are the dreams suggesting that open enemies must be embraced, forgiven, loved, if relationships are to thrive? Or even more to the point, do I drive too hard a bargain, expecting -- even demanding -- that people be dedicated, committed, stable at all times -- if I am to allow myself to form a close relationship with them?
How did the move from New York to California really impact on me emotionally? Did I, metaphorically, commit suicide, or am I now swimming in a hole far below in my subconscious and have all but disappeared to my loved ones? But as I do not especially appreciate Nikki's style of driving a hard bargain, her arrogance, her superiority, her aloofness ?? which may be my own ?? should I just let her swim around for a while? Or are those aspects of myself being regenerated, far below, in the oceanic depths of my being?
Or is the key to improved relationships to be found in a measure of "decisiveness," as the dream suggests, something so difficult for me, when I recall the house of my undoing (12th house), where Libra sits on the cusp. Does the fact that Libra is on the cusp of my 12th house suggest that relationships in and of themselves are my undoing? Or is the indecisiveness I bring to a relationship, my inability to draw the line, perhaps characteristic of Libra, my undoing in relationships? Should I even fear the ending of relationships? Here the dream suggests that, proverbially, as one door closes, another opens, for when I put my foot down with my husband due to his indecisiveness about going to Catalina (or my own indecisiveness), and say, "no, I will not go at the last moment," the relationship ends, but in reality, it only changes, and is improved.
Books. What do the books symbolize? For me, books are like intimate friends. When I read a book, I have come to know intimately aspects of another person that I would never know otherwise, not even, perhaps, if that person were in actual, close relationship to me day after day after day. Now the dream seems to suggest that, these aspects of humanity that I value so highly -- and the fact that they are poetical -- representing the highest and best qualities -- are actually mishandled and devalued by the "authorities," and are thus dispersed, ending up in an ocean of books (intimate aspects of others) where they cannot be differentiated, one from another. (It is only through a feeling process of differentiation that I can even begin to choose partners, perhaps because Gemini, the fact gatherer, also occupies my 7th house). This drives me wild, both in dream and reality -- 75 of the books. Lost forever. The 7th house, the 5th house, and adding the two together, the 12th house. Again, the 7th house, being closely related -- understanding and owning aspects of self so that partnering can actually result; 5th house, once understanding and owning, expressing those aspects to others so they may or may not choose to form and further relationship -- be it romantically or creatively (as in someone choosing to read a poem I've written, or admire a painting I've painted), only to end in the 12th house, the house of sorrow, shadows and endings, poignantly calling to mind a verse from Nineteen Hundred and Nineteen, by William Butler Yeats, which seems to express my sentiments precisely, though all the intellectualization in the world doesn't seem to unlock the truth of the dreams:
The swan has leaped into the desolate heaven:
That image can bring wildness, bring a rage
To end all things, to end
What my laborious life imagined, even
The half-imagined, the half-written page;
O but we dreamed to mend
Whatever mischief seemed
To afflict mankind, but now
That winds of winter blow
Learn that we were crack-pated when we dreamed.
Island
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This Month's Features:
NEWS
- Sleep and Hypnosis
- Dream Temple Software
- Dreaming and Awakening Lucid Dream Program
- Dreams and Jung via E-mail
- Dream Cards Interactive
RESEARCH & REQUESTS
- Recurring Dreams Needed for Puppet Theater
WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Sleepwalker's Dream Journals
- Astrology and Dreams
- New Dream Sharing Forum
- Nightmares Online
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>>>>Sleep and Hypnosis is a multidisciplinary journal and published quarterly. The Journal covers the whole range of sleep, dreaming, and hypnosis research interests. The Journal contains the sections Editorials, Original Articles, Review Articles, Case Reports, Letters to the Editor, and Book Reviews. Editorial correspondence to Mehmed Yucel Agargun, M.D., Yuzuncu Yil University School of Medicine Department of Psychiatry 65300 Van, Turkey. Tel: 90 432 216 47 06 Fax: 90 432 216 75 19 e-mail: mehmetyucel@turk.net. Please visit our web page: www.sleepandhypnosis.
>>>Dream Temple Software
Dream Temple, a dream recording software from Akasha Software, is not only a unique dream journaling tool, but an online community of users who can share insights, dream techniques and other meaningful information. How is Dream Temple different from other applications?
1. Dream Temple's focus is on documenting dreams, and not on dream analysis. Akasha's philosophy is that if information is organized and easily accessible, personal meaning will unfold by itself.
2. Sharing of Dream files with other Dream Temple users creating a virtual dream community. There are several groups already doing this with the Dream Temple. Additionally, it can help researchers collect dreams.
3. A feature unique to the Dream Temple are Dream Links, which enable dreamers to keeps note for a group of dreams and interviewing dream symbols.
4. Email list group of nearly 80 members discussing uses and technical support for the Dream Temple.
5. For those who want just the "basics" , a scaled down version is available. For more information, visit the website at http://www.dreamtemple.com
>>>Dreaming and Awakening Lucid Dreaming Program
Dreaming and Awakening is a 10-day residential training program in Lucid Dreaming and Tibetan Dream Yoga with Stephen LaBerge and Alan Wallace at Stanford University, August 4-13, 2000. Becoming adept at lucid dreaming requires focused attention and practice that is difficult to maintain during our busy lives. This retreat provides an ideal opportunity to devote ten nights and days to cultivating your lucid dreaming ability and enhancing your mindfulness in everyday life, using the most effective techniques and technology, derived from Tibetan dream yoga and Western science. Although we cannot guarantee that everyone will have (and remember) a lucid dream during the program, in past years, most participants have done so, and all have experienced enhanced awareness of the dreamlike nature of "reality." Dream yoga is also considered to be essential practice for recognizing and controlling the bardo states that occur after death.
Join us in this unique opportunity! The retreat includes: 10 days and 9 nights of focus on consciousness, dreaming and awakening on the beautiful, dream-inspiring Stanford University campus; Daily group and individual exercises in developing lucid dreaming skills and enhancing consciousness, dreaming and waking; Valuable insight into the application of lucidity and mindfulness to all aspects of life; A sleep schedule (including naps) optimized for the promotion of lucid dreams; Use of lucid dream induction technology; Discussion sessions and personal guidance by Dr. Stephen LaBerge, arguably the foremost expert on the Western understanding of lucid dreaming and by Dr. Alan Wallace, an experienced practitioner and gifted teacher of Tibetan Buddhism.
About the Presenters: Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D. is a world renowned authority on lucid dreaming. His pioneering studies at Stanford University have brought scientific attention to this potentially illuminating state of consciousness, and his best-selling books Lucid Dreaming and Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, have introduced many to the experience. For the past 20 years, he has researched methods for teaching people to become lucid dreamers, developing techniques and lucid dreaming induction devices. Alan Wallace, Ph.D., professor of Tibetan Buddhism and language at UC, Santa Barbara, has often served as translator to H.H. the Dalai Lama, and has written, translated or edited over twenty books on Tibetan Buddhism and practiced as a Buddhist monk for fourteen years. Both Dr. LaBerge and Wallace are experienced workshop leaders.
Schedule and Fees: Friday 6pm, August 3 - Sunday Noon, August 14, 2000. Fees are $995 for non-residential participants. $1595, includes room and board. Space is limited; a non-refundable deposit of US$100 will reserve you a place in the program. A portion of the fee may be tax-deductible. Full payment is due July 14, 2000.
For information, or to register, call 650 321-9969 or 1 800 GO LUCID (1 800 465-8243) daalf@lucidity.com * http://www.lucidity.com/DAASU2000.html
>>> Dream Cards Interactive
http://www.dreamwork2000.com/
Strephon Kaplan-Williams is most well known for being a pioneer in Dreamwork and developing the Jungian-Senoi dreamwork techniques handbook and related educational networks, as well as being a founding member of the Association for the Study of Dreams. In the last few years he has been developing a Tarot like deck of Dream Cards. Now you can use these cards online and get readings via his website about your dream.
"This interactive can be used daily by people for meditation and accessing wisdom through synchronicity in working with the Dream Cards. The Dream Cards system is itself a valuable way to begin to learn the meaning of universal symbolism so that one can become more familiar with dreams and dreamwork as well as gain insights into oneself and life issues."
Strephon Kaplan-Willams
>>>Dreams and Jung via e-mail
Jung-Seminars is a venture sponsored by the C.G. Jung Page to provide opportunities throughout the year for an e-mail discussion with the author of a specific article or book. For these seminars we will be drawing on Jungian analysts and others who are exploring vital questions creatively and in depth. You will receive announcements of upcoming Jung-Seminars from the Friends-of-CGJung, a list to which your name will be added at the close of the current seminar.
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1. Discussion will focus on an article or book, and we will try to make the article or a book excerpt available at the Jung Page at www.cgjung.com. We would like participants in the Jung-Seminars to read the relevant material before taking part in the discussion.
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6. And finally, we trust these seminars will not only be free of disparaging remarks, comments ad hominem (or feminam, for that matter) but rather will express our common concern with the present and future of Jungian psychology.
With the generous help of CSF (Communications for a Sustainable Future) at the University of Colorado, we welcome you to the Jung-Seminars,
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Jung Page Editors
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>>>Recurring Dreams Wanted for Puppet Theatre
I am an individual artist, puppeteer, working on a new piece for Puppet Theatre. I am interested in collecting reoccurring dream stories from people all over the world. Selected texts will be used in a Puppet Theatre work. I could use any help, resources, etc .in my efforts to collect these stories. You may be interested in viewing my web pages at: http://members.aol.com/cappy1pup/index.html, (WORLD WIDE PUPPETS), to see examples of some of my past work....page two contains information about this REOCCURRING DREAMS PROJECT. Thanks for your help! Cathy , email
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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us.
>>>>Astrology and Dreams
www.cyclelogical.org
CycleLogical Services is a site that offers much to the understanding of the unconscious by way of studying and sharing images and how they
manifest through the astrological framework and through our dreams. The site offers a quarterly newsletter, Chat Room, articles, research participation, professional services, dream workshops and many opportunities to get involved in research. This site came about out of a necessity to see the integration of some of the symbolic systems into a more holistic framework and through my need to communicate the theoretical overlap of the two disciplines. It is my hope that the site will grow with the contribution of dream and astrology enthusiasts and that the research we are planning will help to illuminate the processes by which imagery is weaved into our manifest lives.
>>> New DreamSharing Forum
Interested in sharing your dreams with others online? You might want to look into a new online dream sharing list, DreamShare. Dreamshare is a dreamsharing conference, open to all who want to work together in a supportive, nonjudgmental cyber-climate in the fascinating and revealing world of dream experiences. Members are free to post dreams they have had, ask general questions about dream-related matters or dream themes, dialogue about any dream on the list, and ask for commentary on their own dreams. People new to the world of dream exploration and experienced dream workers are equally welcome, and it is hoped that our list will grow to be multi-generational, multi-national, multiethnic, and inclusive of people from all walks of life. For more information, email
tocomadre@mindspring.com or dreamshare@egroups.com
>>>> Sleepwalker's Dream Journals
http://homepages.go.com/~xtine65/sleepwalk.html
Christine is 26, and and has been a sleepwalker all her life. She started keeping a record of her night walks online. Many sleepwalkers have left great notes in her guestbook, and still many more have written with questions. If you are a sleepwalker, or know someone who is, check it out.
>>> Nightmares Online
www.nightmareproject.com
Since the launch of this website in March, it has really grown. There are now more than 139 Nightmares Online, and more being received almost every day. Based on visitor demand, the webowners plan to add more information about dreams and nightmares in general, and to offer better options for visitors to exchange ideas about dreams posted in their archives.
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Seventeenth Annual Conference of the Association for the Study of Dreams Millennial Dreaming
July 4-8, 2000 in Washington, D.C.
For information phone: (925) 258-1822 or email: asdreams@aol.com. Website:
www.ASDreams.org
July 8 in San Rafael, CA
Special All Day Intensive Meeting - for experienced folks. Organized by an ongoing group from Sebastopol. To see if the group is open to new people for this one day event, call Kim at 707.829.7510 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com
July 10-14 in Berkeley, CA
Graduate Theological Union Summer Term Class (on Pacific School of Religion campus) OPEN TO ALL. "Exploring our Spiritual Selves Through Dream Work." 8:30-12:30 daily. Info and registration at 1-800.999.0528
July 14 in San Francisco, CA. "Dreaming as a Spiritual Practice" with author Kelly Bulkeley, at John F. Kennedy University (Friday 7-10, Saturday 9-4). www.kellybulkeley.com
July 15-16 in Santa Fe, NM. "Dreamgrowing: Creating and Healing with Dream Energy". Weekend adventure with Robert Moss. Call Janet O'Neal at (505) 466-4251 or email robert@mossdreams.com.
July 15-16 in Moraga, CA
St. Mary's College School of Education (Grad. Counseling Program). Class: "Psychology of Dreams." OPEN TO ALL. Contact Carla at 925.631.4723 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com
July 21-23 in Humboldt, CA Weekend Workshop in the Redwoods with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Tracy at 707.839.8689 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com
July 23-28 in Lenox, MA. "The Temple of Dream Healing". 5-day training in Asklepian dream healing and shamanic soul retrieval with Robert Moss. Contact Kripalu (800) 741-7353, www.kripalu.org.
July 27 in San Francisco, CA. "Transforming Dreams" Workshop with Kelly Bulkeley, at The Learning Annex. For information contact Kim at 1-888-532-6639. www.kellybulkeley.com
July 31-Aug 1 in Moraga, CA
St Mary's College summer "Come Alive!" program. Class: "Dreams for Professional Growth and Personal Transformation: A Jungian Group Approach."
OPEN TO ALL. Contact Jackie Hoover at 915.631.4690, or visit
www.jeremytaylor.com
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001 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n310 and 311
002 - Anonymous - confused
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From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n310 and 311
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 14:04:04 EDT
until you read www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/
bed drm-peace had lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming "just' waters drm-peace had lain to the right of the water if you had avoided becoming like it don't drm-peace had lain to the right of the girl if you had avoided becoming "real" weird drm-peace had lain to the right of the tunnel if you had avoided "rolling" little drm-peace had lain to the right of the hamster if you had avoided becoming "little" cancer drm-peace had lain to the rightof the cancer if you had avided being "found out" three drms-1 peace had lain to the right of the boyfriend if you had avoided becoming disturbing 2 peace had lain to the right of the lot if you had avoided becoming dirty 3 peace had lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming "probably"
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From: Anonymous
Subject: confused
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 21:53:27 -0700
Dream Title confused
Date of Dream 4am
I was in the hospital visiting my boyfriend, when a baby stroller entered the room. Then he (boyfriend) said, wait a minute and leave into another room. He and a woman begins arguing. Comments by Dreamer
Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments
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001 - Anonymous - Hot Time by Lilac
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Hot Time by Lilac
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:56:37 -0700
Dream Title Hot Time by Lilac
Date of Dream May 25th at about 4:30 a.m.
On a Thursday, mid morning I was awakened by a dream about my ex boyfriend.In this dream we were having passionate sex but, he kept looking at me with this unsettling look in his eyes. It was cold and heartless something I had never known from him.
Comments by Dreamer Please give me an answer to what this means because this is not the only dream I have had about him in the past month. They seem to recur every 2 weeks but, there is something different every time.
Permission to Comment yes_share_comments
Permission Comments I welcome any and all comments regarding this dream
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001 - Anonymous - New House from Buckeyekid
002 - Anonymous - Murder in the Mexican Restaurant by me
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From: Anonymous
Subject: New House from Buckeyekid
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:02:32 -0700
Dream Title New House from Buckeyekid
Date of Dream 5/24/00 time early morning just befor waking
In my dream, my husband and I had just moved into a new house, it was an older, large farm house. As we were walking through the house, our youngest son (age 9) was exploring all the rooms, my husband and I walked into a room (bedroom, study?) and saw our son standing in the middle of the room with hundreds of rattle snakes at his feet. He (our son) was frightened but trying to stand as still as he could. I ran to my son and picked him up, this would be a great feat because he weighs 103lbs. With my son in my arms I could feel the snakes striking at my legs and feet (I was in shorts and sneakers) but, even though I was being bit by these snakes I knew that I was not getting any of their venom. I took a step towards my husband and threw our son to him, then I started grabbing the snakes and throwing them out of the open window.
Comments by Dreamer there were several things about this dream that bother me, I hate snakes and so does my husband, second my husband and I are looking to buy a small farm in the midwest, and third, when I told my husband about the dream, he told me that he had a dream a few days prior with rattle snakes and our son.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Murder in the Mexican Restaurant by me
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:22:06 -0700
Dream Title Murder in the Mexican Restaurant by me
Date of Dream 05/30 2:00 am
I was working for a friend at his Mexican restaurant when I learned of a gang of black men who intended to shoot up his place.
I was scared and grabbed a shot gun and hid under a counter in the darkness of the restaurant.
one of the intruders came in. He intended to catch the owner by surprise so he too hid where I was hiding. Trying not to be noticed I turned my face so he could not feel me breathing next to him.
Finally, he realized he was not in this hiding place alone and he cocked his gun to get ready to shoot me. I had already engaged the shot gun and fired it at him, killing him.
Comments by Dreamer What does this mean? I am not a violent person nor do I work at a restaurant.
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001 - Anonymous - Help Teezers
002 - Anonymous - Egyptian Funeral
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Help Teezers
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:11:13 -0700
Dream Title Help Teezers
Date of Dream 5/27/00-5/29/00
I keep on having dreams about babies, sperm and eggs. I need to know what it means. The first dream was a couple of days ago. I was sitting on my couch at my house and the phjone rang it was my boyfriend he was calling from Alaska on his vacation. We talked for and the whole time I kept seeing this clock infront of me. We talked for 20 minutes or so the clock said. Then I told him that I had to go I had to leave and go to the hospital and hung up. It flashed to the hospital I was laying in a bright cold room with a hospital dress on and I was alone. Then the nurse came in and I gave birth to one little boy. It didn't take long and there was obviously no pain involved in this birth. Then the nurse left and I got up. I walked out into the halls they were very crowded and I saw my boyfriend. He came running up to me and asked what was wrong and if I was ok I said "I am fine one down one to go" then he fainted. We went into the cold right room after he wo! ! ke up and I gave birth to a little girl they were both premes and had to stay at the hospital but my boyfriend and I were right there with them in a rocking chair the whole time. Then his dad showed up turns my boyfriend had taken his fathers truck and drove to Ohio and his father had to get horses to drag the trailer home. What does this mean.
Then the next night I had another dream. I drempt that I was in a dark garadge with my best friend and two other girls. The two girls I don;t know were talking to me and we were laughting and they were sitting on a flowered couch beside me. I was sitting in a recliner and my best friend was at my feet. She reached inside me and pulled out a clear orange. In the middle you could see the egg and a little baby starting to grow. She tried to put it back inside me but could not we all started to freak out and then my best friend started to eat the orange she ate the sides but missed the egg and the baby then my boyfriend came in and asked what was going on he seemed mead when she told him but he took the orange and put it back then I woke up.
Then the last dream was two nights ago. My best friend, boyfriend and I were standing on a wodden bridge over a beautiful pond t was a lovely color of blue. It had lilly pads and lillies floating on the water. It was so bright and pretty. we were all three looking into the water when we saw it. There was a tiny sperm that came from under the bridge. From right under where my boyfriend was standing. Then an egg floated from under me. They met and the sperm went throught the egg till just the head was on the one side and the tail on the other then it changed into a frog with a tail and in the middle was a curled up baby we all stood there and talked about how cute it was. Help me please I don;t know what these mean and I would like to. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Egyptian Funeral
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:37:09 -0700
Dream Title Egyptian Funeral
Date of Dream 05/31/00 6:30 am
I had a dream i was in egypt back in time when there were pharohs and queens. I was observing a Egyptian sacarfice/Funeral. The people around me we dressed in long heavy sheets with the colors of brown and white. Both men and women were attending this ritual. The sacarifice was a young girl that was 12-13 years in age. she was naked and wore a thin cotton that was wrapped around her. she was very calm during the ritual. there was a mummy coffin behind her. when they started to take of the cotton to get her ready to become a mummy, they showed her face and it was me. Comments by Dreamer
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001 - Anonymous - No Jealousy?--Mr mann
002 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n315
003 - Anonymous - dinner party at robbie's house
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From: Anonymous
Subject: No Jealousy?--Mr mann
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 14:37:47 -0700
Dream Title No Jealousy?--Mr mann
Date of Dream 3 wks ago- 4am Dream
i am a member of a fraternity. married to a bisexual woman. we dated more than 6yrs before marrying. i had what should've been a disturbing dream. i dreamed that my wife was sexually engaged with two of my frat brothers ( simultaneously ) in my presence as i stood and watched. she was very giddy and enjoying herself. yet, i wasn't at the least bit apprehensive. actually, a bit permissive towards her.
even after waking i still had neither feelings of rage nor jealousy.
we've had past discussion concerning her having sex with another man other than myself and she expresses a definite non-desire for such.
normally, just the thought of her having sex with another man could get my blood boiling. no matter how close his is to me.
i've been trying to sort this out for weeks now, but to no end. i am willing to answer any questions to further aid you in assistance.
please help me put SOME sense to this.
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i'm just trying to make some sense of this.
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From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n315
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:45:18 EDT
help drm-peace had lain to the right of the phone if you had avoided becoming rang egypt drm-peace had lain to the right of egypt if you had avoided becoming very
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From: Anonymous
Subject: dinner party at robbie's house
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:51:06 -0700
Stan requests that his name and address be kept with the dream. - R
From: stan kulikowski ii <stankuli@pcola.gulf.net>
DATE : 2 jun 2000 06:09
DREAM : dinner party at robbie's house
=( i have been teaching every day long hours and have been sleeping poorly because the heat in the night has been borderline for my comfort, staying just under 26 degrees centigrade. i have been reading an autobiography by some minor english poet, stephen spender. his recollections of his undergraduate days in oxford remind me of my graduate studies in amherst. i wonder if this is typical of oxonians or some special precocious nature of the idle wealthy class of 1920s england. since i have to be up early for a really long day of lecture tomorrow, i try to get to sleep around 02:00 but without success. finally around 03:30 i shut off the fans, close the windows and set the air conditioner running at 24 degrees where i can sleep well. it takes almost an hour for it to cool enough that i drift off. )=
i have arrived too early at robbie moll's house, but he and his wife rachel do not mind. i used to be almost part of the family, welcome any time just to drop by. usually i can help in the preparations, or at least know well enough to keep out of the way when that is the best to be done.
"stan!" cries robbie when he sees me at the door in his customary big hearted way. "i was just on my way out with justin here." he indicates a young man, probably a candidate for a position in computer science. "you come along with us. you will like this too."
quickly the three of us load into a small car for a short ride across town. we arrive at a factory complex behind a chain link fence, but the guard at the gate waves us by to a parking space nearby. it is after hours on a workday, sot the lot is mostly empty.
robbie begins by showing justin around. i have been here often, so i just hang back looking at the display products scattered along the hallways in glass cases. finally we come to an intersection where robbie tells us to wait. he sticks his head into a side door and talks to someone inside.
"ok, ok" he says to himself as he returns his attention to the two of us waiting. "this is jimbo, the human battery." he introduces us to a very thin man who has stepped out into the hall with us. jimbo is poorly dressed, has very dry hair sticking up at odd angles like he just woke up, and dull waxy looking skin stretched over his bones. he looks more like a refugee from some balken reign of terror than anyone suited to a scientific facility.
"just keep away from the walls." robbie warns us.
jimbo stands straight and appears to concentrating on the ceiling for a while before his hands start to throw off a white glow in the air around them. i hear a slight crackle and get a smell of ozone. jimbo brings his hands up in front of him and bright blue streaks of lightning begin to jump back and forth between his palms. abruptly he throws one hand over to the wall nearest him and a huge discharge of blue plasma hits the wall with a loud crash.
jimbo gives a maniacal laugh that can hardly be heard after the deafening roar of the lightning. the blue tracers of current are now dancing constantly around his hands, crackling and hissing. he starts to walk aimlessly toward me, and i back away as jimbo starts throwing thunderbolts left and right into the absorbent walls. once, in backing away, i get to close to vertical pipe embedded in a walls, and a bit of current sparks over to sting me. damn, that hurt even with incidental contact.
soon, however, jimbo's power starts to wane. rather than exhaust himself totally, he stops the display and composes himself as the fireworks rapidly fade from his hands. "didn't i tell you this was worth seeing?" robbie says to us all.
jimbo seems a little shaken after his exertions. "how long have you known you could do this?" i ask him.
"i was in my late twenties when i started to manifest the sparks." he tells me. he does not look much older than that now.
"hum, about the same time i learned that i could fly." i told him. i do not understand the significance of this correspondence, but i think he needs a little support just now that he is not just some freak on display. i levitate a little bit to show him.
"now let's go back. rachel has dinner on, you know." robbie herds justin, jimbo and me out to his car for the short ride across town.
once back at the large frame house, we four split up as the place is quickly filling up with all sorts of various people. robbie must do his host duties and greet everyone arriving. i wander down a hall toward the kitchen, saying hello to anyone i know.
i find the kitchen too crowded for me to be of any help, so i hang back at the door. i find too others, a man i do not know and a woman i recognize slightly but not her name. the man has a beer bottle from which he takes an occasional sip while the woman is talking. i wish for a beer too, but getting over to the fridge is too crowded just now.
"you can see that i have a very good penetration of the spine." the woman says. she is dressed in a very thin, scanty dress, cut to display much of her flesh. i notice now as she goes into pose like a body builder, clenching her hands in front of her, that her muscles are overdeveloped to the point of exaggeration, but not quite disfigurement. as she develops her pose, the vertebrae of her spine begins to slide out as the massive back muscles are clenched away. the over all effect is rather disgusting. i seem to remember her being quite lovely at one time.
the woman looks over at me with a wink. "what do you think?" she asks obviously expecting admiration. the bones of her curved spine sticking out remind me of uneven piano keys.
"you have good penetration." i tell her. obviously, her huge muscles can be seen under the skin like an anatomy lesson. "but i am not the best judge of steroid mechanics." she quickly deflates like a balloon and looks at me with resentment. i quickly retreat to another room to avoid any conflict.
i meet a couple women coming in with brown paper bags. i help them to unload their treats to a nearby serving table. one has brought some homemade turnovers which tells me are filled with peach tapioca. it sounds good, but i do not sample them right away.
the other woman is dark eyed, dark haired, very attractive. slim features and pale white skin that never sees the direct sun. i recognize her as one of the more notable lesbians from northampton. she is one of those that are almost painfully seductive in nature, cruelly playing with men to demonstrate how shallow, predictable and crude is the male sexual response. she toys with us just long enough to show what she already knows then discards us with pronounced indifference. i have been on this hook often enough to enjoy it and so play along my part. she does not intend to be tease even though it is her basic nature, conflicted in her method of attracting men while not really wanting them. any interest in men, even to display a weakness, is why she is not really trusted by the usual lesbian community, and therefore never part of the stable pair bound couples which are the core of their society. i am told they tolerate her rather than accept her.
"hello, veronica. you are looking beautiful as ever." i tell her. she smiles, collecting her due in compliments from the unworthy.
"try this." she hands me a large perfume bottle. it is stylishly crafted to be an awkward assembly of glass and wood and chrome.
i start to undo the top for a smell when a small cork in the bottom pops out. the thick fluid starts to gush onto the table and i quickly try to stop the flow with my fingers, getting a lot of the concoction all over me.
the room is quickly filled with the cloying odor of condensed flowers and musk. many people look over at me. "great, now i am going to smell like a burbon street tart." veronica laughs slightly but makes no effort to help clean up the mess. she would not want to be associated with me by sharing the same noticeable olfaction for the rest of the evening.
=( i awake just after 06:00 feeling quite refreshed and alert. unusual for me. i start typing in this dream right away while it is fresh in memory. i have to hurry with the early 09:30 class to prepare for. any party at robbie moll's house in amherst was usually a wonderful affair, the best kind of academic experience. relaxed high level conversations, sometimes with a professor or sometimes with a truck driver. this dream was much longer and more detailed than the bits i could get in here before the rest faded in my memory. i wish i could have held on to more it as the people i was meeting there seemed very entertaining to me. )=
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=== qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit
| | who not is today, tomorrow less suitable will be
--- -- Ovid _Remedia Amoris_ i 94
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001 - Anonymous - Brainweb by Oeuf Cosmique
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Brainweb by Oeuf Cosmique
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 21:40:24 -0700
Dream Title Brainweb by Oeuf Cosmique
Date of Dream 05/15/00 - night
I purchased a computer recently and have my first unlimited connection to Internet. My "electric dreams" are more sensations than structured sequences: my mind goes right, left, straight forward, variating between fast and slow. It is like something was tracing tiny channels into my brain for further uses, modifying it, reshaping it, complexifying my views and thoughts.
Comments by Dreamer Only in the first days I felt my brain was a the real screen on which web pages were projected...
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001 - Anonymous - new job
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From: Anonymous
Subject: new job
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 08:27:39 -0700
Dream Title new job - Penny
Date of Dream June 26th 2000
Im starting a new job and dream that I forget to turn up on the first day, when I do turn up - Im intoxicated Comments by Dreamer
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001 - Anonymous - Walking in Hell
002 - Anonymous - Debbie returns
003 - Anonymous - New Dream
004 - Anonymous - Saving Hannah
005 - Anonymous - chasedby
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Walking in Hell
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 14:29:10 -0700
Dream Title Walking in Hell
Date of Dream June 6 2000
The dream begins with myself walking through an abandoned town, in the middle of the night, but the sky was red, thus making all of the buildings look black, from my view point. (The best way I can describe this is shining a flashlight behind someone, and another person trying to look the person in the eye. The figure is black.) Apparently from where I am, I am walking in the streets of this town. Alone every corner of the street is a barrel. Looking in the barrel I see body parts. Not only are the barrels on the corner but beside every store door.
I believe it was hell, something just told me. The thing that disturbed me was that I wasn't afraid of being there, alone, in hell. In fact I was quiet comfortable with it.
The sky was more reddish-black than anything. I have no idea what color that would make it.
Comments by Dreamer From the best of my memory this dream appeared to me over 6 years ago, and ever since then I have been trying to find out the meaning of this dream.
If at all possible I would like an interpretation of this dream.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Debbie returns
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 14:41:05 -0700
Dream Title Debbie returns
Date of Dream 06/03/2000
I had a dream my cousin Debbie who has passed on at the age 0f 44 came to me at my easy chair where I was sleeping and woke me up and said. (Tell your mother to go the the last house on the block.) I reached out to touch her and she moved back a step and leaned over close in my face and said it again,(Tell your mother to go to the last house on the block. I awoke at once and call my mother and made sure she was alright and to check on her elderly neighbor lady at the end of the block on her side and she was ok.What does this dream mean.Debbie passed away of cancer. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: New Dream
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 14:40:18 -0700
Dream Title Confused,jazz
Date of Dream 6-6-00 abt.8:00am
I walked into a public bathroom ,(small) and there was a woman with her 5yr little girl, she was washing her hands(the mother) and accidentally stabbed herself in the throat with a drinking straw from the soda she had in her hands. There was blood gushing out all over and the little girl was crying, I didn't do anything, I saw what happened but just stood there trying to decide what to do and someone who I don't know but seemed to be my friend in the dream came in looking for me. I left the bathroom and walked down a hall and looked for another bathroom, I found one with one toilet by itelf and there were more off to the side and they were enclosed but the one by itself wasn't and that was the one I chose to use, I started to urinate and relized I had started my period, a man walked in looked at me and smiled and walked off, there were people all around but I didn't seem to be concerned about that, the bathroom was a ugly dark blueish green color. I go! ! t up and left with peole who seemed to be my friends but i didn't know them, I was still trying to decide what to do about the lady who died and her child, I looked in the first bathroom again and saw the little girl still crying but again did nothing, I just shut the door, It seemed like my boyfriend and x-husband were near but I never saw them through all of this. After that I just woke up. I am so confused by this and have no clue as to what it could mean, please help. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Saving Hannah
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:42:10 -0700
Dream Title Saving Hannah - Calicii
Date of Dream night of 6 June 2000 - time unknown.
This was so weird. I used to date Hannah's father and I havent' actually thought about either of them together in months. Last night this dream just came out of the blue. I was - sort of - back where I grew up. But where the outside courts of the gymnasium used to be - was a great chasm that was being logged. The edges of the chasm were covered in enormous machines - only some of which were related to the logging industry. And - I was there with Hannah - watching her father work. THe ground was littered with huge fallen treas getting ready to be collected and put through the stripper. Underneath the piles of logs - which were piled haphazardly all over the place more like matchsticks fallen out of a box - seemed to be water. But the holes between the piles were deep and the water glistened far away. Somehow - Hannah and I were walking around on top of the logs - and my concern was that she'd fall in the holes and be lost. She did - but alway! ! s managed to just get wedged - and not be lost. I'd be pulling her out by her arm or her hair and being totally scared to death that if I didn't look after her - everyone would hate me. Somehow - she managed to go over the edge of the chasm - fortunately - for her - where there was a log jam. Now this chasm was deep - very deep and to have a log jam high enough for her to be undamaged in her fall was a miracle. Once again - I climbed down and pulled her out - by her hair - but this time I had the help of her father - who didn't blame me for her fall. As I was lighter - I went down into the log jam to get her. As I pulled her out - the logs gave way - and like any other hero - managed to grap hold of a ledge on the otherside of the chasm and pull us both up. They sent out a cherry picker for her - but couldn't move the truck it was attached to, to where we were so we had to move along this ledge - holding on to a hand hold at the top until we could reach the point where! ! the cherry picker was. After I put Hannah in the cherry picker - it moved away to deposit her safely on the other side. I though I saw an easier way for me to get to them - a ledge with a ladder and a small bridge leading to the other side - so moved towards it. Suddenly the ledge turned into something like a door lintle - the grip was smaller for me to hold onto and I felt desperate. I reached over and grabbed hold of the new look ledge/lintle and got both feet on the ladder and both hands on the ledge. Just then it started to give way and fall away from the walls of the chasm. I gave in - thinking it was a long way to fall and I was going to die. Said in my head - at least Hannah's safe, and let go and fell. I woke up just after impact....I hadn't fallen very far. It was as if the floor of this deep chasm had come up to meet me so I wouldn't die when I landed. I woke up, my heart pounding thinking I was very lucky. And there were Hannah and her father looking dow! ! n at me and smiling.
Comments by Dreamer This was, I think - a lucid dream - I was very aware I was dreaming but couldn't stop it - although I knew I could influence it. I also think it might have something to do with forgiving myself for the breakup between Hannah's father and myself, to let go - because Hannah will be alright.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: chasedby
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 09:34:21 -0700
Dream Title chasedby Breed
Date of Dream 6/4&6/6/00
I have had 2 chase dreams this week and it is only Wednesday!! In the first one some bad person was after me and nearing. My cat(I don't have one in real life)knew it and wanted to alert me and did so by batting whole peanuts from and barrel that was outside into the house. I was in the cats head and it wanted me to associate the peanuts with a bulb of garlic that was in a painting that meant danger. It worked. I closed and locked the doors and locked myself and someone else ( don't know who but it was male) into the bathroom. There was another me that was checking the doors and realized that 'I' was locked out of the bathroom. I was ok with because I was glad the other me was safe. The me that was out of the bathroom stepped into a closet that only had folding doors and hoped for the best. Inside the bathroom, I peeked thru an openning to see if I tell if the bad person was near and I saw an eye that I thought was a reflection of my own eye. I then re! ! alized that it was the eye of the bad person and he was grinning and pleased that he was so close and would soon have me. I turned and realized we had backed ourselves into a corner and just as the bad guy started to come thru the door I said the the guy with to run and jump thru the window! He was shocked as we were up very high and said we would be killed in the fall. I said we wouldn't and grabbed him and ran and just crashed thru the glass. I began to fly. He asked how did I know that I could do that. I said that I always knew it is just that I just remembered right then. I wondered about the saftey of my cat and the other me then I knew that they would be safe too.
The other had to do a man that was a very nice when I was child chasing me. I thought of it as sport and kept out witting him. I called a boy who is a friend of my sons to ask if I could some fake leaves from him and he said yes. He had been helping the old man track me. He was going to stop the "game" to bring me the leaves. I came outside on the streets that I grew up on and saw a school bus parked in the wrong direction. I saw the old man hit the boy in the back of the head with a shovel (I think) I was sure the boy was dead. I went into my house that I grew up in. and called to my dad(he is dead in real life) he said he was up stairs in the bathroom. I went upstairs and told him the man who always been our friend was after me and wanted to kill me and was coming to house now.I was now crying tho I had been in complete til then. My dad quickly finished in the restroom and was going to handle this. I was safe.
what does tis mean. I am grateful that in both cases I was alright in the end. I do wonder about my dad coming back from the dead to help me! Tho he would if he could.
thanks.
Breed
Comments by Dreamer I wonder why I am having cased dreams and what Ican do in real life to alieviate them
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001 - Anonymous - Drowning
002 - Anonymous - Celebrities and Witchcraft
003 - Anonymous - Disturbing
004 - Anonymous - Quick Change...
005 - Anonymous - "Sweetly Surreal"
006 - Anonymous - Bears and Fish
007 - Anonymous - friends
008 - Anonymous - Scott
009 - Anonymous - qtragazzza1117
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Drowning
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:39:46 -0700
Dream Title Drowning
Date of Dream 6-7-00
I wake up in a white painted square room. The room is no bigger than 6 by 6. The ceiling is made of metal bars, like a jail cell. Water creeps in from the wall and starts filling the room. The water goes over my head. I swim to the top for air... but something keeps me from breathing. And I don't know why. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Celebrities and Witchcraft
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:40:18 -0700
Dream Title Celebrities and Witchcraft
Celebrities and Witchcraft from: ImGonna B A Star
Date of Dream June 7, 2000, Between 3am and 10am
I dreamt that myself and some people i had never seen before were being chased by something or someone, I'm not sure, like in one of those suspense movies. They were after us for something. But we got away and along with us was Bette Midler. I am a Miss M Fanatic, totally. We ran into this house and we lived there for a while. The people just kept leaving the dream. That often happens in my dream, stuff just disappears. Bette Midler and I were left in the house. (She had red, curly hair) There were two stair cases that were directly in front of eachother that lead to the downstairs basement. Well, Bette went down one and i heard something on the other side and so I went down the other steps. It turned out that if you walked all around downstairs you could get to the other stairwell and go back upstairs. Well, there was a metallic gold and pink curtain that was covering the door opening in the basememt. And I heard her casting spells and stuf! ! f. She never saw me but she went back upstairs on the opposite stairwell. I was stuck downstairs because she was between the two entertaing and singing for guests. (?) And i was trapped because i didn't want her to see me. I then woke up.
Comments by Dreamer I am a Bette Midler fanatic! I love her! I had not watched her movie, Hocus Pocus(where she plays a witch), in a long time. I went to bed around 1 am and I'm not sure what time the dream began but it woke me up at 10 am. This dream really scared me. What does it mean?
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Disturbing
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:04:17 -0700
Dream Title Disturbing: Nikki
Date of Dream 05/01/00
I was at a party. I had knocked something off the wall and was attempting to put it back when a woman came up behind me. She was talking and laughing trying to distract me when I felt her trying to steal the credit cards in my back pocket. I confronted her and she laughed saying she just couldn't help herself. I was very angry and called her a few names to which she kept laughing and agreed to that which she was accused of. It only made me even more angry. I attacked her and she fell on her knees as if I were trying to have sex or something which totally pissed me off. So I stabbed her. I don't know what I stabbed her with or where it came from. But I took great pleasure in killing her and even running my fingers around in the wounds, kinda playing. I somehow ended up with her in the bathroom, where I left her. In my dream the next morning I awoke to find I had joined forces with another female and we had killed my boyfriend ( although it really wasn't! ! my boyfriend). He was somehow suspended over the bed upside down dead. We had killed her boyfriend as well. He was in the bed. I remember feeling like it didn't really matter much I just had to get up and get things done. Then my 6yr old son came in and messed up his pants, so I took him outside to get him cleaned up. We had one more person to kill that morning, her boyfriend's teenage son. Which she took care of when I was outside with my own son. When I came back she suggested I go ahead and kill my own children since I had already killed everyone else to which I was saddened and remember trying to find a way to not have to kill them. And then I woke up.
Comments by Dreamer Don't think I am psychotic I have never had a dream like this and was revolted and horrified by it.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Quick Change...
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:05:53 -0700
Dream Title Quick Change...
Date of Dream 1993
I was in the preachers house and my best friend and the preachers wife were with me. We were standing in the livingroom and he (the preacher)was sitting in a chair near the hall. He got up and was talking to me while paceing back and forth...I couldn't understand a word he was saying but I was trying so hard to. He kept talking in a language I didn't understand and pacing back and forth...getting faster and faster...then all of the sudden we were in a pasture. You could see for miles...it was brown not green pasture. There were about 5 groups of around 20 kids each with 1 adult woman in each group standing all around. Me and 2 other people were standing by this very old junkie pick-up truck and in front of us was a mountian lion...paceing back and forth. We were all relaxed just standing around talking like everything was normal and everyone was safe...nothing out of the ordinary..all of the sudden the mountion lion starts running and the kids all ha! ! ppily start running after it whooping and hollering having a good time chasing it..I panic and start running after them begging them to stop...saying its dangerous but they don't listen and they keep "playing" around chasing it and being very loud...I scream "Don't chase him!!" and all of the sudden the mountian lion turns around...snarls and leaps toward the kids...swiping at them growling...the kids get scared and start screaming and running away from him now...he's just about to cahch a small boy when he stops-in mid air-and turns and looks at me...then he starts chasing me...I run to the junkie old truck...I know it won't start, but I jump into the back and he's right behind me...I climb onto the top and start head first over the side and I am sliding under....when I wake up...
Comments by Dreamer Our preacher stated during a serman(the last one I ever attended!) that if we were not ready to commit(he didn't say to whom we were to commit) that he didn't want us in "his" church. Everyone except me and a few others jumped up and "ran" to the front and got on their knees.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: "Sweetly Surreal"
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:04:48 -0700
Dream Title "Sweetly Surreal" -- Kiwi
Date of Dream 4/30
I dreamed my boyfriend and I were dancers in a Russian ballet company. We didn't look like ourselves (we looked, well, Russian), but in my dream I was me and he was him, I just knew. I was dressed in emerald green, with jewled slippers. He was wearing purple, and we were performing on a huge open-air stage. At one point in our number, he tossed me into the air, and I kept rising up and up and up. I rocketed into the sky, past the clouds, eventually "leveling out" with the horizon. I flew like that forever, with my arms stretched out so far it felt as if my fingertips were scraping the edges of the sky. This dream was very vivid -- I can remember feeling the wind on my face. Anyway, I flew flew for what seemed like an eternity, and then I came to the sea. It was grey and foamy, but not angry. I dove in; it suprised me, because the water was warm and sweet, not bitter like salt water. I plummeted further and further down. There were no fish, only forests! ! of sea-kelp and brightly-colored coral. The coral rose up like florescent castles from the sea-floor, and I swam closer to one, thinking it really was a castle. It was -- I paddled inside, and was suddenly dry. The inside of the "castle" was adorned with pearls and shells. I explored the rooms, ending up in a long hall with tall french doors at the end. They were black, as if made of obsidian. I tugged on the handle of one of the doors, and it flew open, and the ocean came gushing in. The water engulfed me, and swept me down the hall and into a room I hadn't noticed before. It was a huge under-water auditorium, with a golden stage at the front. I swam to the stage, and my boyfriend was there, only he looked different again. He was a mermaid (mer-man?), with a purple tail. He asked me to dance with him. I didn't know how, seeing as he didn't have any legs, but then he smiled and pointed at mine, and I saw I had a mermaid's tail, as well. Then I woke up.
Comments by Dreamer I'm not sure whether this dream has a negative connotation or not, but it left me with a nice, satisfied feeling. It definately wasn't a "bad" dream . . . it's just so wierd, that I would like some suggestions as to what it could mean
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Bears and Fish
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 08:39:32 -0700
Dream Title Bears and Fish
Date of Dream 6/8/00
I'm walking through a wooded area next to a river somewhere. There are people with me but I don't know who. I look over at this section of the river and I see the biggest bass I've ever seen. I'm thinking to myself, "I know that I don't usually fish (in fact I'm totally against it)but this fish is to big to pass up." I toss in a spinner bait and catch the fish immediately. The fish turns out to be a channel cat. I run the fihs back to D (a good friend who is a fisherman) and we unhook it. The fish stands up, gets a small running start and jumps into the river. I look off into the distance and there is a young brown bear folicking about the woods(so cute) all of a sudden, a gun blast. All of a sudden there are a load of hunters/poachers skinning this bear. I yell across the river at them, "FAGGOTS". They say some stuff back. The end. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: friends
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:27:43 -0700
Dream Title Lynn
friends
Date of Dream 6/8/00
Last night I had this dream where I was working at a place I have never seen before. It was like some sort of fashion type of place maybe clothing. An old friend came by and told me to meet her at this park type place. After running/ rushing out of the work type place I went to meet her. When I got there I saw her and my latest guy friend after that I dont really recall anything. The oddest thing is that I havent had a dream, or not remembered a dream in a very long time, why this dream and why? The two friends have never met (that i know of) and I dont know why they would be related to anything. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Scott
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:26:35 -0700
Dream Title Scott
Date of Dream 08/june/2000
In my dream, I had joined up with some strangers, who accepted me into their groop, which was fine but we went to a very tall high rise building by the seaside, we were on a balcony and I though i saw someone fall from the balcony, just as a very long rope descended from above down to the ground, I had to get on the rope and climb down,but because we were so far up ,i doubted that i would have the strength to keep a hold of the rope, and feared I would fall to my death, but I managed to get to the bottom but I don't know how, then the strangers and myself got into a 70's style sports car and as soon as I got into the back seat it really started to rain and the clouds turned black,I said "That was lucky!" referring to getting out of the rain just in time,but the strangers all looked at me in a strange way as if I knew that it was just about to rain,when Iclearly didn't. That's all I remember. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: qtragazzza1117
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:33:51 -0700
Dream Title qtragazzza1117
Date of Dream 5/31/00
ok so i'm gettin married in 3 months, and i had a dream that i was out shopping and ran into my ex-boyfriend (we have been broken up for 7 years now). He saw the ring and said to me, wow you only have 3 months? and i turned and said, no, you only have 3 months! What does this mean? Comments by Dreamer
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001 - Anonymous - flood dream
002 - Anonymous - end of the world
003 - Anonymous - Excuse me I have to use the bleachers.
004 - Anonymous - "War"
005 - Anonymous - Alligators
006 - Anonymous - Broken right hand
007 - Anonymous - faces Lady Di
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From: Anonymous
Subject: flood dream
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:06:33 -0700
Dream Title flood dream
Date of Dream 6/8/00 night time dream
I was on the second floor of a building on the north fork of long island, ny ,over looking the long island sound. it was windy with a gray sky but there were green lush trees in my view. there were large windows in this building. i was looking out and the water from the sound was touching the windows and there were great swells of water. i remember feeling facinated by the swells, almost hynotized, but i was also worried that the water would break through the windows and i was worried that the first floor of the building was under water. yet my worry was over shadowed by my facination and i had a child who was my daughter and i was telling her to look at the water and the swells and see the beauty. I have no children! I also remember worrying about my loved ones. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: end of the world
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:11:33 -0700
Dream Title end of the world
Date of Dream 5-1-00
I had a dream it was the end of the world. The sky split in half and in the middle of the split there was a tornado. The tornado was not moving, nor was there wind or rain, around the tornado it was a deep royal blue. From the blue portion of the sky surrounding the tornado, in the middle of the split, millions of baby doves were coming out of the sky. The doves were latching on to me.
Comments by Dreamer When I awoke, I was shaking. What does this mean?
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Excuse me I have to use the bleachers.
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:10:46 -0700
Dream Title Excuse me I have to use the bleachers...Janell Date of Dream
I need to use the bathroom...very badly. I walk upon to the bleachers which have holes all up and down them. There are hundreds of other people around me using the bathroom and chatting like its nothing out of the ordinary...I need to go so bad I go ahead and try...I end up sitting there much longer than the others because I am so nervous...people and coming and going and I'm still sitting wanting to get it over with but I'm to nervous...
Comments by Dreamer I have lots of dreams like this...Its been in different settings but its always public...males and females and its always the normal thing to do but I end up sitting longer than everyone else because I'm uncomfortable with it...
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From: Anonymous
Subject: "War"
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:12:14 -0700
Dream Title "War" by:a troubled sleeper Date of Dream
i had a dream where i was on a ferry, having a good time with my family. while we were going down the river i noticed that we were going into a war area. bombs and trees were flying everywhere. and everything was going in slow motion. and it was very loud. and it didn't even stop when i awoke. i still saw everything, the bombs and trees flying, IN MY BEDROOM,
i saw everthing was huge, my furniture was. at the same time i heard the bombs, very loudly. i know i wasn't asleep, because, i let my sister sleep in my room that night, and when i woken i began to cry, cuz i still saw it and i could still hear it. she began to speak, but i only heard her in slow motion. then i walked out of the room, and could still hear it, but farther away from me. but when i came back it all stoped. i was very frightened. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Alligators
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:09:48 -0700
Dream Title Alligators
Date of Dream May3, 2000; approx. 2am
I had a dream that I was still young and living with my parents in a house that backed up to some vacant property. On the property was a swampy area where there were alligators living. I was out at night one evening and heard the groaning noise (coincidentally, the same noise my wife makes when she snores) that alligators make. I woke my parents and they laughed at me. I was consumed by the fear that the house was being attacked by alligators, and stayed up all night watching the back of our property. That morning, a 14-16' alligator pushed thru the chain-link fence separating us from the vacant lot and went into our front yard. For some reason, I was afraid it wanted our dogs. The dogs in this dream were every dog I had ever owned in childhood. I felt I had to protect the dogs but could only reach one, my favorite as a child, a dog named Morgan. I took Morgan with me and climbed on top of our fence and watched as the giant alligator went thru the yard and around to the front yard to where the other dogs were. I screamed and yelled for my dad to come outside so he could witness what I had told him the night before was going to happen. He showed almost no fear of the alligator and walked around on the ground as it apparently was looking for a way out of the fenced yard. He got to stand right next to the alligator and started to feed it sandwiches. He said,"See? They're tame. They aren't interested in us." He kicked the alligator to sort of make it move in the direction of the big hole it had made in the fence to guide it back. As he was doing this, I took Morgan and climbed higher on the fence and on top of the top of the neighbors house. I knew I was safe and that Morgan would be too. My father stood next to the back fence and said,"Look, son, there is a lot of them back there." I looked in horror as the alligator joined at least 8 or more others, all the same size. They just sort of swam together and splashed around, like normal. I watched for a while and then climbed down. I went back to the front yard to make sure all the dogs were accounted for. I scolded my father for acting so foolishly and reminding him how it could have gone badly with the alligators. He just acted like it was no big deal. This is when I woke up.
Comments by Dreamer I rarely have dreams I can recall. The ones I do recall, are usually very sexual in nature. I can't remember the last nightmare I had this one had me so shook up that I had to get up and find out what it meant on the internet! I did NOT want to go back to sleep!
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Broken right hand
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:23:52 -0700
Dream Title Broken right hand
Date of Dream 6/9
My right hand wasnt there anymore, and I got a replacment for my right hand. And everybody told me it was okay!
Comments by Dreamer need info about dream
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From: Anonymous
Subject: faces Lady Di
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 06:08:46 -0700
Dream Title faces Lady Di
Date of Dream May 01,1999
I dreamt a man i had been seeing was making faces at me.
Comments by Dreamer i got the feeling from the dream that i was not who he thought i was
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001 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n321
002 - Anonymous - emotion feeling
003 - Anonymous - I Didn't Fall
004 - Anonymous - Known Kissing
005 - Anonymous - roxyfski
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From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n321
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:53:29 EDT
peace had lain to the right of word following - if these dreamers had avoided becoming the word following =
flood drm-building=second end drm-sky="not moving" excuse drm-need=very war drm-ferry=good gator drm-house=backed up broken drm-hand=any faces drm-man=making
more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/
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From: Anonymous
Subject: emotion feeling
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:23:49 -0700
Dream Title emotion feeling
Date of Dream 9AM TO 1PM
Philadelelphia,PA---EYE CONNECTING, HIDE , HOLDING HAND, BLANKET, BUS , TRIP,BED, HEAD OFF WITHOUT BODY,FUN, TALK, SPANISH MAN TALKS, OCEAN ,TEACHER ,LESBAIN (HOMO) ,MASTUBATING,PRIVATE, VAGINA, LOW HALF BODY NUDE (LEGS AND HAIR WITH VAGINA) WORE GOLD RING ON LEFT HAND , SMILE,
Comments by Dreamer PLEASE TELL ME , WHAT THE DREAM INTERPRETING, SOME CAN'T FIND ALL WORDS... THANKS , COURTNEY
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From: Anonymous
Subject: I Didn't Fall
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:09:45 -0700
Dream Title I Didn't Fall
Date of Dream 6/11 9 am
I was at a energy plant based on cooling ice to create energy. A huge tall building with five walls, very cold and bottemless darkness at the top, looking down. I was at the top and had to jump from one, 2 foot width of a wall, to another. I had to jump while carrying my childhood teddybear and missed, but grabbed myself and dangled from the wall with my bear. A man, with out a face, tried to help me but I would not let him. I gave up my bear to save myself and climb back to safety.
Comments by Dreamer It was very intense and scary, lifted myself up with out effort, felt incredable sadness about bear, felt empty of feelings for man with no face.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Known Kissing
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:10:15
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Dream Title Known Kissing
Date of Dream 6/10/00 10:00 A.M.
School just got out, but it was June and we get out in may. It felt like it was winter and it was snowing. I was leaving the scool with my friend when I realized I forgot my jacket, so this boy I know offered me his. I guess we were going out. I found my jacket, but I told him I still wanted to wear his. I think I ended up carrying mine and wearing his. It was his lettermen's jacket. He, my friend, and I started walking to his house. We met his parents, then went up to his bedroom. He and I kept looking at eachother like we knew what eachother were thinking. Then, me and my friend decided to leave. He was on his bed, so when my friend walked out, I was following and I bent over and started kissing him. We both knew that we were going to start kissing eventually. We finally stopped and he walked us out. We saw his parents again and they wrote my friends' and my name in the carpet. They only write people's names who they like in the carpe! ! t. Then, my friend was talking to the boy's parents, and I was talking to the boy. He kept touching my arm and stuff. Then, he took his hand and and ran it down the side of my body. I remember it made my stomach flip and my body tingle. Then, i woke up.
Comments by Dreamer I liked this dream a lot. it made me feel very special.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: roxyfski
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:11:33 -0700
Dream Title roxyfski
Date of Dream saturday morning 3:00 am
i was making out with my best friend who already has a girlfriend. but he wanted me and i wasnot into him. i went with this girl and we went to a time portal and my ex boyfreind decided i was gay.
Comments by Dreamer i have a lot of dreams about kissing girls but not about kissing guys
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001 - Anonymous - Erotic Bathroom scene
002 - Anonymous - Rambling Rose?
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Erotic Bathroom scene
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:05:46 -0700
Dream Title Erotic Bathroom scene
Date of Dream June 12,2000
In a bathtub and there are candles, rose pedals in the water and no lights except candle light. My girlfriend and I have a very erotic, romantic night.
Comments by Dreamer I wish it would come true
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Rambling Rose?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:06:22 -0700
Dream Title Rambling Rose? - Barb H.
Date of Dream May 2000
On the way to a banquet I get caught in the rain and get soaked. When I arrive at the banquet I decide to get out of my wet clothes. To the astonishment of some of the other guests, but it didn't faze me a bit. I proceeded to enjoy the evening, and made a comment to someone I knew that the only thing that bothered me was that I had put on a bit of weight around the middle. Her comment was ' That's all you're worried about!'. I walked over to a table and sat down to talk with someone else I knew and they said, 'You know, no one else is going to sit in that chair now'. Oh, well, c'est la vie, was how I felt about it all.
Comments by Dreamer I find this dream rather enlightening and funny, not too worried about it.
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001 - LdyLilith3 - remove
002 - Anonymous - liveitup
003 - Anonymous - New Dream
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From: LdyLilith3
Subject: remove
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:26:51 EDT
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From: Anonymous
Subject: liveitup
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:49:24 -0700
Dream Title liveitup
Date of Dream 6-12-00
I have a friend I'm trying to get close to but she has a boyfriend. A relationship she says shes not happy with so I told her to turn it over to her dreams. Two days later she emails me her dream.
She was in Japan watching a festival along the coast,people were having a great time eating, drinking, music, etc.. The sky was clear and blue ad then she looked up to see two planes practicing stalls... By the way her friend shes with works with a airlines. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: New Dream
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:47:40 -0700
Dream Title Wedding Ring,Raven Jade
Date of Dream 6-12-00,12:00am
I was at work(pizza hut) and was sent on break. The guy I'm talking to, shows up and hands me a box. I open it and there's a ring inside. I put the ring on my index finger and the next time I look down, the ring is on my ring finger. so I put in back on my index finger and the same thing happens again. Then I tried to put the ring on my right hand. but the ring still ends up or my left ring finger.
Comments by Dreamer Please try to tell me what this means.
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001 - Anonymous - Giant Spiders & Dog Boo
002 - Anonymous - Clarissa
003 - Anonymous - opening & reading mail: venusdust
004 - Anonymous - I'm afraid to fall!
005 - Anonymous - Whoo! Look at this aquarium!
006 - Anonymous - Street Sluge Down Hwy 101 and across the Golden Gate
007 - Anonymous - cant out run a dragon
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Giant Spiders & Dog Boo
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:35:37 -0700
Dream Title Giant Spiders & Dog Boo
Date of Dream 15 June, just prior to 6:00 a.m.
I dreamed I was being beseiged by giant spiders, looking much like the tattoo on my shoulder. I got them into a cage, but one escaped. He came back to the cage to take the poisoned food I had put in the spider's cage. After he ate it, he metamorphosed into a cocker spaniel, who urinated, had an orgasm and dissolved. I woke up terrified.
Comments by Dreamer I thought the spiders represented the negative thoughts I had allowed myself yesterday; but when I looked up several interpretations of both spider and dog, I foun that both were very positive. I found it ironic that I was poisoning them instead of the other way around, but I was positively terrified.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Clarissa
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:37:44 -0700
Dream Title Clarissa
Date of Dream 2/6/00
My dreams are usually like epic movies (have been since I was very young). My latest was that I was involved with a terrorist (no factions mentioned here) however he found out I was married to someone from the other side. We planted a bomb and only just got away before it exploded. It was great when the blast went over our heads and we had to dive for cover. Fate was against us and we had to split up. Many years later I saw him in a "victory" parade and he recognised me but didn't want to acknowledge me. Even though I was standing next to what was so obviously his daughter.
Comments by Dreamer Seriously, most of my dreams are like movies/books. I mean to compile them one day into a book. Once I even had a dream that ended with epic music and a "cast list" going up the "screen". Ha!
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From: Anonymous
Subject: opening & reading mail: venusdust
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:19:09 -0700
Dream Title opening & reading mail: venusdust
Date of Dream 6/16/00 5:00 a.m.
I went to P.O. got letter out of box opened it up an was able to see the intire contents including the exact money figures.
Comments by Dreamer what does it mean?
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From: Anonymous
Subject: I'm afraid to fall!
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:18:33 -0700
Dream Title I'm afraid to fall! John
Date of Dream 6/11/2000
I'm in a sky diving plane with my Brothers. We're about to jump, but I decide not to at the last minute. So I stay behind. What is strange is that my Younger Brother's Mother In-law is flying the plane! Next to Her is a former co-worker/friend. They both seem disapointed.. Then I wake up..Any clues? Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Whoo! Look at this aquarium!
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:18:02 -0700
Dream Title Whoo! Look at this aquarium! Currious John
Date of Dream 6/14/2000
In this unusual dream, my older brother, Dad, and I are discussing cleaning the house for a party. It is a small apartment that we've never been to. Suddenly we draw our attention to this really hughe fish aqurium which is filled with all sorts of fresh water fish, but I am quick to point out that the water looks like it needs to be changed. My Dad agrees. Then I awake.
Comments by Dreamer I was thinking about my Parent's 50th. Wedding Aniversary the nigh before...
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Street Sluge Down Hwy 101 and across the Golden Gate
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:22:55 -0700
Dream Title Street Sluge Down Hwy 101 and across the Golden Gate - JU JU
Date of Dream 6/15/4am
I have a recurring dream scenario where I am on a long skate board apparatus comuting with cars on the Highway from Northern Marin County down across the Golden Gate Brigde into San Francisco. The particularly interesting piece of this scenario is that I am almost 40 years old, I weight like 260 pounds, and I have never been on a skate board in my entire life. In the dream I am always just about to careen out of control, but never do. I am weaving in and out of lanes and cars, banking wildly around sharp curves and ploughing down long hills with no brakes. After I get over the bridge I always find a very foreign world of inner city ghettos with a life and law of their own. At first the destination was very scary and dangerous, but each time I have this dream the destination and events become more safe - meaning I'm not being threatened by bodily harm. As the destination becomes more safe it still does not become familiar - the place wher I street! ! luge tois another world that operates under the radar of dominant paradigm conventions. No currency seems to exist, no sense of authority at all in fact - a kind of anarchy - as consensus is not the method of communty. Everyone knows each other and has history - sometimes when I visit characters come up and tell me stories/gossip about other characters and advise me in how to handle them. I often find myself in a BBQ place - the decor and mood of the BBQ place differs each time. Sometimes it is in an extremely impoverished and desperate community with bars on the windows and doors and flat white light, and people packing guns with them -car jacking and just a lot of general thuggery - and other times it is a social gathering place for members of the community. I'm always a little lost when I'm there and I'm never quite sure why I'm ther or what my purpose is. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: cant out run a dragon
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:22:13 -0700
Dream Title cant out run a dragon Date of Dream
awoke in my dream to be in a trailer park in the woods atop a large mountain, homes are scattered about along with people's personal belongings all through the park.
Only to find out all the residents are at the local church. I step in to find many people hurt and scared,a group planning a way to burn this dragon sat in the middle of the floor they say it has been terrorizing the park were they live. It seems as if the church is the only place were they are safe. I know otherwize!!!
For some reason i looked at the ceiling of the church and noticed the outline of the killer chamelian shaded to match the church. So I non shalontly looking out for my self of course walk in to the bathroom and hide in the closet were i find a few other freaked out individuals who were aware of the same fact i was. The Dragon is in the church. However for fear that the dragon would hear us tell the others we decided it was best to just hide. suddenly the dragon shows it self as it swoops down and grabs some poor helpless human and flies through a stain glassed window into the cool air outside. People running around freaking out all scatter outside no longer feeling safe inside the church and i find my self safe inside of the closet....this is about one third of my dream from last night. If I could tell you the rest you might think it not to unusual but for me it was deffinetly worth trying to sleep in.
Chillone -- Portland OR
Comments by Dreamer can you tell me what this dream means? If so please e-mail me at chill1lvn@yahoo.com
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001 - Anonymous - Get Together
002 - Anonymous - "hit-man"
003 - Anonymous - Teeth.Mass
004 - Anonymous - mad bug, grace
005 - Anonymous - Robbery
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Get Together
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:20:18 -0700
Dream Title Get Together
Date of Dream 17/06/00
My dream takes place in an unfamiliar house yet it is familiar to the me in the dream. There is a Party/Get together in which it is divided into Adults and Children. I being 29 real life, find myself in the Children section and in the back of the room, I see my Ex-girlfriend of 2 years ago taking care of a baby. I am unaware if this is hers or someone else's. I don't pay much attention to her for in my dream, I see her as my ex also and don't wish to talk to her.
Comments by Dreamer They say a dream you remember in detail means something. I have a bad feeling about this one. I am under the impression that this means that my ex is presently awaiting a child or on the verge of having one. But it could be my past reassurging itself. Together in the past we had an abortion.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: "hit-man"
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:28:20 -0700
Dream: "hit-man" by taKmaiS
I'm living in a house with my parents, but from the inside it appears to be my grandmothers house. Its in an awful part of town with alot of drugs and crime. I'm sitting in the living room of the hosue watching TV with some other people that i'm not familiar with or just am not very aware of. A black man or kid walkes thru the front door with a gun and i hide behind it. i'm very aware that i may die at that time. he points it towards my stomach then at my head and i grab the gun waitting for it to go off but it doesnt. we wrestle for the gun for a while then i nock him down onto the couch and point the gun at him. i notice the expressionof shock on his face and his mouth is wide open. i shoot him in the mouth. he slumps over but i feel that i must help him now that im safe. by this time i've very frantic, pumped up on adrenaline and nervous. I try to call help or 911 but while i'm dialing the phone there seems to be some kind of interface that im unable to use which makes the process of reaching an operator very dificult so i give up. the otheres in the house seem unconcerned but we eventually move the man into the bedroom to lay down. I have the impression after we move him that hes no longer a man but a sick black woman. My mom then assists me in contacting some help and soon after a man with a team arives and i feel that they really know what their doing and that all will be well. they start looking thru the house for the gun which evidently was hiden after use and i try and direct them to it. they seem to want to take finger prints from it to use in court. I still have the strong feeling of helplessness over the fact that i've got to live in a place like this where theres obviously someone out to kill me and i must constantly watch my back. My friend paul then drives right up to my front door with two black men in his car. He's asking me somethign to the effect of do i want to go do somethign with them or do i know where they can get some pot. i tell them cant and explain what just happened. the two black men come into my house and then all of the sudden it seems there are lots of people in my house and i'm walking around talking to people. I then go outside to the front porch which is the first time i actually see the outside of the house and the neighborhood. I notice there is a large house across the street but very close to my house with no blinds or curtains in the window and all the lights on inside the house. its dark outside and i can see clearly into the house. i am aware that what just happend that night has everything to do with that house. as if i had seen something going on in the house that i someone thinks i shouldnt have seen adn i'm thinking, "the windows are open, what do they expect." i then walk back inside but the house is now like a trailor with a front door and each room in line with the next. my family is getting ready for church but its saturday night and i say that im' not going. i then find myself explaining to my dad my feelings on what happened to me that night(the attempt on my life). I tell him that even though it was a dream experience, it doesnt matter because i still experienced the same emotions and feelings of mortality that i would have in real life. i try to explain to him how unsafe i feel here and that i really want to try and move away. at this point the dream takes a different course, still along the same theme but i wont mention it here.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Teeth.Mass
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:12:19 -0700
Dream Title Teeth.Mass
Date of Dream 14/06/2000
I have a reccuring dream that my teeth are all falling out. I try to push them back in but this just makes more of them fall out. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: mad bug, grace
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:15:03 -0700
Dream Title mad bug, grace
Date of Dream june18,
i had a dream that a ladybug was angry with me. so to get even it tagled itself in my hair to annoy me.
Comments by Dreamer i would like to know what the heck it is saying to me
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Robbery
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:14:25 -0700
Robbery by FR Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments my dream is i go to a convience store to buy something and two men come in to rob it. the other people are being shot at but i roll myself in a ball hoping they would not see me. then they see me and start shooting and the bullets are m&m candies which penetrate through my skin and i am still alive. the dream continues because i go to another store and the same thing happens. i wake with fear.
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001 - Anonymous - is it love (rosie)
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From: Anonymous
Subject: is it love (rosie)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:12:18 -0700
Dream Title is it love (rosie )
Date of Dream june 18at 7 :30ish in the morning
In the dream im in my school and im walking down the hallway. Well after walking for a long while I see this guy.Its the guy i have a crush on , he is also my best friend ,he gets closer and I go to give him a kiss on his cheek,like I did every day at school, and instead I kiss him on the lips ,Then I get this feeling its king of a confused feeling because ive alwayed kissed him on the cheek and never on the lips before then I just wake up .
Comments by Dreamer I was very confused the whole day about it.I want to know if it means something good or bad and what it is.
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001 - Anonymous - the man I don't know yet
002 - Anonymous - uncertain goodbye
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From: Anonymous
Subject: the man I don't know yet
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:05:41 -0700
Dream Title the man I don't know yet / Deborah
Date of Dream 20/21.6.00
I meet the men a like a lot (wich i don't know yet in the reality and I don't know anything about him)with a women, tey hold each other the hand, and watching at his hand I see his marriage ring. But still if he is with her he turns and watch at me as usual. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: uncertain goodbye
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:02:36 -0700
Note: Stan requests that his email and name be left with the dream
DATE : 20 jun 2000 10:56
DREAM : uncertain goodbye
=( i had some trouble getting to sleep last night. mom and i watched video until 02:00. she had asked for the oldest movie i had, the oldest i could find was douglas fairbanks (1924) _thief of bagdad_, a silent film. earlier in the evening i had run _flashdance_, jennifer beals always reminds me of sherry, a former girl friend. i read until 03:30, a fantasy novel about magic generated by drawing patterned topography like celtic knots. i tried to sleep, but could not. around 04:30 i turned on the light and read some more. 05:55 i finally put down the novel and got to sleep, the midsummer sun already up early. )=
i start to reach for the door to knock upon it, but i hesitate. inside i can hear lisa going about her business, but i hold my hand in suspension, not wanting to announce my presence.
i turn my back and lean against the cold white brick wall beside her door. her apartment opens out into an intersection of large hallways, daylight streams in from long windows just down from the ceiling along the halls. it has been three days since i have seen her. three days in which i could have called her, but strangely i did not. i came by those several days ago to tell her goodbye, but she was not at home when i called. our relationship, if it can be called that, consisted of only three dates: all of them satisfactory, pleasant affairs. even the sex after the last two was good-- not great, but good enough to contain hope for more. that is why i am puzzled about this. why am i calling it off? this uncertainty has kept me for three days now not calling her. was i left unsatisfied in some way that i am barely aware of?
since i can not tell myself what is wrong here, i can not explain it to her either. i lean my head back against the hard stone wall. i know that the green and black stripes on the shoulder of my white sweater can be seen inside from the vertical window slit in the door. i hear the door click as lisa opens it.
"why, stan, i am glad you are here." lisa says as she steps outside. she does not inquire as to why i am just standing there and did not knock. "i do not think we should see each other anymore. the last time you were here, i did not answer the door when you knocked. i can not say why but i felt some sadness, or distance then, so i did not come to the door."
i look at her. her eyes are downcast, barely visible through the long blonde hair she uses to hide them. her face is gentle and kind, but i can tell she has no real feeling in this just now. it is cool rationality speaking.
"if i did not answer then, something is wrong and i know it. i just can not say exactly what it is." she looks away, the dismissal final now. what is wrong with me? this is the easy way, lisa anticipating what i came to say. surely that would resolve any residual guilt i feel about a failed attempt at romance. but now i wonder. it seems her previous reluctance to answer the door may have been an avoidance of this very separation i was there to pronounce. i spent the last three days not calling her in doubt of myself.
"i understand." i say to her. "it is alright." i take the easy way out with just acceptance but not concurrence. i sigh once to myself. it is decided then.
"there you are, stan." my lab partner, roger hixson, comes up from down the hall. "i have the experiment set up and ready to run." we are engaged in some physics experiments in a laboratory on the other side of the building.
"goodbye, then." she tells me. with a sad look, lisa gives me a long kiss of farewell, her hands cradling my face for the last time. i savor the feelings inside me, the uncertainty now even greater. i do not hug her, just lean against the wall as i have been all along. to take her in my arms would just increase the contact and make the parting more difficult. but her kiss is sweet, and my heart is stung more than i want to say, and i just have to learn to accept that this was not meant to be.
lisa goes inside and closes the door. i walk away past roger who appears to be thunderstruck. he is blushing red around the collar as he often does. when we get back to the lab where he has the wires and pulleys strung up for the measurement of pendulum inertia and the transfer of kinetic moment. roger starts in with a rapid fire of questions-- "who was that?" "why didn't you introduce me?" "what a fine looking woman." "how do you know her so well?" and so on. when roger gets flustered, he is straight forward with the questions.
"do you know who she reminds me of?" i ask rhetorically, not waiting for a reply. "did you ever meet sandy, the woman don hatcher married? she is rather similar to her." don and sandy got along well afterall.
=( i awake 10:45, feeling still a little tired but not able to go back to sleep. besides, i have been hoping for dream for a week or two without any that i could write into the log files. the lisa here was lisa railey who i met when i got here to pensacola. i believe we were attracted to each other, at least i was to her, but she had just taken up with the man she eventually married, so the timing of my meeting her did not work. roger hixson is a friend i knew in high school. i do not think we were ever lab partners, and the experiment set up is more like the intro physics in college. don hatcher was my lab partner all through undergrad biology. he met his wife, sandy, there. long evenings we spent across the lab room from her, counting etherized fruit flies in petri dishes, don telling me how much he wanted to ask her out. eventually he did. )=
. stankuli@gulf.net
=== qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit
| | who not is today, tomorrow less suitable will be
--- -- Ovid _Remedia Amoris_ i 94
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001 - Anonymous - panther
002 - Anonymous - snow in june in texas
003 - Anonymous - New Dream
004 - Anonymous - Two Moons Rising in the West
005 - Anonymous - childhood canabalism
006 - Anonymous - The fight
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From: Anonymous
Subject: panther
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:08:49 -0700
Dream Title panther dee
Date of Dream june
i dreamed that a black panther was my friend and my pet also. Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: snow in june in texas
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:08:18 -0700
Dream Title snow in june in texas dee
Date of Dream may
All I remember is that it snowed on my birthday, which is in June. I live in Texas.
Comments by Dreamer i dreamed it right after i realized i was getting married for the first time at 38. i would like to know what this dream might mean.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: New Dream
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:38:19 -0700
Dream Title ZOMBIES
Date of Dream 06-22-00
I HAD THIS DREAM THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD RELEASE A TOXIC THAT INFECTED PEOPLE AND TURN THEM INTO ZOMBIES. I HAVE TWO KIDS AND THE FIRST THING I DO IS GO GET MY KIDS. SO IM CLIMBING OUT OF THIS WINDOW SO I COULD GET MY KIDS OUT I GOT MY BODY OUT BUT IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO GET MY HEAD OUT. SO I FINALLY GOT MY HEAD OUT AND THERE WERE A LOT OF ZOMBIES COMING AT ME AND THERE WAS THIS LADY SHOOTING AT THEM SHE HAD TO GUNS SO SHE GAVE ME ONE SO I START SHOOTING AT THE ZOMBIES NOTICING NOTHING WAS AFFECTING THEM I LOOK AT MY GUN AND IT WAS REALLY SMALL. SO I STARTED TO FIGHT MY WAY THREW AND WENT AND HOTWIRE A CAR AND GOT MY KIDS. I WOKE UP Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Two Moons Rising in the West
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:15:42 -0700
Dream Title Two Moons Rising in the West
Date of Dream 5/18/2000
I was with my immediate family and extended family at a large residence. As my sister and I were talking I noticed the moon round and full but not large in the west. The time of day was not evening. The moon was very distinct and very clear.
Later in the dream as we were walking together outside, another moon was on the horizon and it was very large, very distinct almost as if you could reach over and touch it. Both of the moons were rising in the west and it was daytime not evening. There was a date of 5/18 which flashed in and out of the dream as if in the corner of the view. That date is a full moon date.
Comments by Dreamer I would like to know the symbolism of the two moons in one sky and rising in the west instead of the east.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: childhood canabalism
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:52:43 -0700
Dream Title childhood canabalism Carpet mom
Date of Dream reocurring throuout childhood
I used to have a dream about a homeless person coming onto my porch and dying there in his sleep. Then my mom would find him there and get my father to saw off the top of his head. After that she would scoop out his brain and make soup with it and then force my sister and I to eat it.
I used to wake up scared and crying. This dream happened quite frequently when I was a child. I've only had this dream maybe 3 or 4 times since I reached adulthood. Can anybody tell me what this means? Comments by Dreamer
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From: Anonymous
Subject: The fight
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:53:34 -0700
Dream Title The fight - by Narco Leptic
Date of Dream 3 years ago
Sitting at home in Athens Greece across a monastery, watching holy men gathering around. The decided to help us out with the fight of the evil one who had arrived. The holly men were from a different religion. They were Buddhists, but they all understood the nature of the fight. They were carrying long staffs as tall as they were, and they were dressed in golden yellow clothing. They had an extra power over the Christians. They could fly, but they didn't use their skill right of way. The idea was to eliminate the evil army and their leader. To do so we had to touch their flesh and that would expose them as of their true intentions and eliminate them. There was a long fight. Flying Buddhists and some Christians fighting on the street, on the air, and just everywhere. I was very tired and I was feeling the pain in my body. I came back in the house from the balcony where I was observing the fights. I had to fight inside the house also a couple of men. Their leader Satan was hiding all this time in my bathroom, with two of his most trusted assistants. He was covering first his face and then the rest of his exposed flesh with a coat of fine wax, to prevent contact with a human of good intentions. As I opened the door, he was the most handsome young man I had ever seen. He looked like my brother. He was smiling and his two guardians were trying to protect him. He said go ahead and touch me. You see... I'm not evil. I pushed my way through his guardians inside the small bathroom, and touch his face, but I didn't stop there. I reached behind his ear where the layer of wax was thin and pilled off some of it and touched his flesh. Then I continued and reached inside his shirt and touch his flesh again. He stopped smiling and his expressions were as he had just seen a ghost. Horrified he started screaming and I left the room, and went in to the dinning room where a man was standing there. The man's face was very dark and his skin was rough. His clothes were old. He was standing facing a big mirror. He was holding a old golden crown and he placed it on his head, and said, "This is the begging of the end". He was St. John. We won the fight.
Comments by Dreamer The locations are real, I lived in Greece across the street from a monastery. The house where this took place is still there. One of many dreams. Since I was a young boy I have been experiencing strange things. I'm Narcoleptic, and this supposed to give me a comfort that what I see is not real. Some of my dreams are VERY REAL. Real or not, is just a fact that changes from the direction you aproach the question. Real for me and not real for the rest of the world.
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