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"Dreams have their roots in our past, but they are flowering out
into our future." Kelly Bulkeley


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E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s


Volume #7 Issue #6


June 2000


ISSN# 1089 4284


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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes
++ Event: Mutual Dream Target for June 15:
Trafalgar Square, Longon.

++ Notes to the Editor/Dream Airing:
ASD Conference updates
Robert Bosnak Firetalk Online
New DreamShare dream sharing mail list


++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Barton Santello's series
By Lucy Gillis

++ Column: The Lucid Bird's Words
The Six Basic Steps to Lucid Dreaming
Step 3 : Keeping a Dream Journal
By Marc Vandekeere

++ Column: The Dream Doctor
By Charles McPhee, Ph.D.

++ Column: The DreamSpinner Column
Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers
By Bjo Ashwill

++ Interview: Transforming Dreams:
An Interview with Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D.
By Richard Wilkerson

++ Column Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:
Dreaming Through the Houses: 6th House for June
Madame Aionia


G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S - Peggy Coats

NEWS * RESEARCH & REQUESTS * WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES *
* DREAM CALENDAR for May and June 2000* ASD News Update!

D R E A M S S E C T I O N :
dream-flow.v001.n292- dream-flow.v001.n311

D E A D L I N E :
June 14, deadline for July submissions
Topics: Computer Dreams II

M U T U A L D R E A M T A R G E T June 15.
Trafalger Square, London England


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Send Dreams and Comments on Dreams to:
Richard Wilkerson <rcwilk@dreamgate.com>

Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to:
Peggy Coats <pcoats@dreamtree.com>
Send Articles and Subscription concerns to:
Richard Wilkerson: <rcwilk@dreamgate.com>



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Editor's Notes

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Welcome to the June issue of Electric Dreams. For those of you
who are not familiar with this e-zine, it is a joint project of
many online dream groups and individuals. We explore how the
dream movement is evolving, especially online, and contribute to
its development in our own unique ways.

This month, dream scholar Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D., joins us for an
Electric Dreams interview about his new book on big dreams. A
full spectrum of topics are covered about dreams from nightmares
to new theories about sex and dreaming. Kelly is well qualified
to speak about all these topics from both personal and academic
points of view. Also, Kelly was the first person at ASD to hand
out and distribute information about Electric Dreams in 1994! Be
sure to read my interview with him about his new book,
Transforming Dreams.

Probably the most significant interaction we can have with a
dream besides being in it, is recording it. Recording dreams is a
great way to enhance dream recall, have more vivid dreams,
increase chances of lucid dreams and have recorded material for
later work, analysis, cross-reference and long term dream series
studies.

In this issue of Electric Dreams Marc Vandekeere continues his
basic steps to lucid dreaming with extensive notes on Keeping a
Dream Journal. Be sure to read "Lucid Bird's Words."

New this month is a column by Bjo Ashwill. For those of you who
have used her dream journaling software "DreamSpinner," you know
when I say she is a real expert on recording dreams and has been
studying the many different nuances of this area for some time.
She has developed the most sophisticated dream journaling
software to date and will be keeping us up on this and other
topics in the DreamSpinner column. This month: " Working Dreams
With The Power Of Computers."

Charles McPhee returns to comment on dreams. If you haven't seen
his new Dream Doctor site, I recommend stopping by and adding
some dreams to the growing collection and special teen section!
http://www.dreamdoctor.com

Madame Aionia continues to explore the relationship between
astrology and dreams in this issue. The Sixth House traditionally
includes such areas as work, health, servants, and now employer-
employee relationships. Thus we are moving into an individual?s
work habits, the situations one is likely to attract to the work
situation and one?s attitude toward routines and service. Today?s
servants are more likely to be the waiter, the repair person, the
toll booth collector, the customer service agent. Health may be
seen as the body vehicle of service. Be sure to check out what's
in the stars for June dreaming!

Peggy Coats, from dreamtree.com, has been gathering the news about
dreaming from all around the Net and has the latest conferences,
the best workshops, the finest dream events and all the updates on
the latest and best web sites. Be sure to look over the Global
Dreaming News for the events in your area.

For the latest Association for the Study of Dreams announcements
send an e-mail to the ASD News Autoresponder at news@asdreams.org


Our Dreams this month come from all around the Net and have been
organized by the software developed by Harry Bosma. Be sure to look
through the dreams and see what on the mind and soul of dreamers in
Cyberspace.

Are you new to dreamwork and dream sharing? Please send in an e-
mail to scoop@dreamgate.com for a list of suggested steps and
resources in learning about dreamwork and dreaming online.

Many thanks to the cover artist this month, Johanna Vedral
<johanna_vedral@hotmail.com>


If you are planning to go to the 2000 ASD Conference in Washington
D.C. be sure to get your room reserved right away! the cut-off
date for making room reservations at L'Enfant Plaza at the very
special ASD rate is fast approaching. Rooms with the group room
block will be held until Monday, June 5, 2000. Any requests
received after June 5, will be handled on a space and rate
available basis up to the number of rooms blocked. Also, if you
are planning to arrive early or stay over a day or two, you need to
make these arrangements no later than June 5th.

Get the full scoop at the website for the Association for the Study
of Dreams.
http://www.asdreams.org/asd-17



Finally, if you would like to meet us in Dreaming Land, we will be
having a mutual dream June 15 at Trafalgar Square, London, England.
Hope to See you there!

-Richard Wilkerson

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Dream Airing:
News, Notes and Events

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If you would like to get more information about the monthly class,
the History of Dreams, send and e-mail to the autoresponder at
dreamclass@dreamgate.com

-Richard
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Dreamwork via the Interent with VOICE conferencing. Free!

http://www.cyberdreamwork.com

FIRETALK, the host for the INTERNET DREAMWORK WORKSHOPS
led by Robert Bosnak each Sunday at 9:00 P.M. EDT
from April 30, 2000 to June 4, 2000


Cyberdreamwork Groups - Newcomers

Welcome to JOIN A GROUP....Enter and connect with Cyberdreamwork
Groups from around the world.

As a Newcomer you only have to accomplish two tasks before
joining a Cyberdreamwork Group....Register and download
*Firetalk. Both are free!!!

1) Register - just registerand enter your identifying
information.
http://www.cyberdreamwork.com/cgi-
bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?action=agree

Once you have registered, return to JOIN A GROUP to download
Firetalk.


2) Firetalk - All our Cyberdreamwork Groups take place through
our generous host, Firetalk, an internet communication system
much like your own telephone. By simulating a virtual, private
conference room, Firetalk allows you to talk with and work on
dreams, in real-time, with a group of 3 or more people.
Download Firetalk for Free - Now!!!....
http://download1.firetalk.com/FireTalk/Affiliates/FTSetup.exe

Return to JOIN A GROUP and enter a Cyberdreamwork Group.
*[Note: At present, only P.C. owners can use this system].

To join a Cyberdreamwork Group, click on the above forum
Cyberdreamwork Groups - Newcomers. Once you enter, click on Post
New Topic and type in your request. Please post your name, e-mail
address, time zone, and the days and times you are available. If
desired, you can request joining a group lead by trained
Cyberdreamcoaches.
Our Group Coordinator will then e-mail you with further
instructions.

If you have any questions or comments, please contact the
webmaster: webmaster@cyberdreamwork.com



Just reminding Australians that Dream Talk Back is on ABC radio
in Melbourne (3L0 on 774 AM on Wednesday 31 May at 1.30 pm) and
in Canberra (2CN on 666 AM on Friday 2 June from 10.30 - 11.00
am) this week. You can call in with your dreams.

Just reminding EVERYONE that the Dream Network monthly article on
dreaming, "Dream Sight", will be sent out in on 31 May. You can
subscribe to receive your free copy at the Dream Network web
site, or read the article at 'News' at the site when it is
uploaded a few days later. (Last month's article can be seen
there until then.)

Jane Anderson
jane@dream.net.au
PO Box 1735, Milton Business Centre, QLD 4064, Australia

JANE ANDERSON'S DREAM NETWORK
Feel the transformative power of understanding your dreams:
Everything you need to know ...
Plus a lively online global community at:
http://www.dream.net.au

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From: comadre@mindspring.com
To: dreamshare@egroups.com
Subject: [dreamshare] Welcome and Introduction: Please Read
Date: Sun, May 28, 2000, 11:59 AM


Welcome to Dreamshare. This is a dreamsharing conference, open to
all who want to work with us in a supportive, nonjudgemental
cyber-climate in the fascinating and revealing world of dream
experiences. Members are free to post dreams they have had, ask
general questions about dream-related matters or dream themes,
dialogue about any dream on the list, and ask for commentary on
their own dreams. People new to the world of dream exploration
and experienced dream workers are equally welcome, and it is
hoped that our list will grow to be multi-generational, multi-
national, multiethnic, and inclusive of people from all walks of
life. The original members met on another dream discussion board,
are on several different continents, and represent several
generations. We hope this diversity will grow.

One of my basic understandings of the dream world is that it
speaks a language common to all, though we may have a hard time
understanding it at times. Although the language we use to
describe our dreams, and the images that appear in them, may vary
based on our individual and cultural experience, the basic
process is the same for all. It is impossible to tell a
"housewife" from a doctor from a carpenter from a person who has
been identified as a "mental patient" from reading a description
of their dreams, unless the dream is focused on intimate
knowledge of their waking-life realities.

Before you attempt to comment on anyone else's dreams, please
keep the following in mind:

a) this is a supportive environment, based on the principles of
kindness and respect for all. You will encounter people with
beliefs, practices, habits, and language very unlike your own at
times, both in posting your own dreams and reading the dreams and
comments of others. I encourage people not to censor themselves
when relating dreams in an established forum, and also encourage
people responding to be kind, calm, and openminded. One of the
benefits that I have found to doing group dreamwork over the
course of many years is that I can find common ground and shared
intelligence with people I might have little in common with in
waking life. Be courteous (a word that, like "courage", means
something of the heart). Take an active interest in understanding
how someone whose spiritual beliefs or lifestyle are far from
your own is part of the same Big Picture as yourself.

b) in the same spirit as the above: Only the dreamer can say for
certain what his or her dreams mean. Borrowing from my friend and
mentor Jeremy Taylor (whose dream-related website,
www.jeremytaylor.com. I recommend strongly to all), I urge all
participants to enter the dream world by imagining themselves in
the dreamer's shoes, and stating their opinions in the first
person as much as possible. For example, I might say, "If this
were my dream, the wedding dress might be about commitments I
want to make public" when responding to someone's dream about
shopping for a wedding dress.

c) Clarification questions and dialogue are encouraged. If there
is some part of a posted deam that is unclear, or you want to
know more about a dreamer's waking life, go ahead and ask,
keeping the principles of courtesy and kindness in mind of
course. One good thing about e-mail is that we can dialogue
rapidly, and are not faced with the time constraints that might
exist in a face-to-face dream group. Before you comment on
someone's dream, you might want to make sure you understand what
it is that you are discussing.

d) This needs to be a safe place for all. We all understand that
there are privacy concerns unique to the Internet. You may choose
to remain anonymous, using only your "screen handle" or you may
give your name at your discretion. Please respect the
confidentiality needs of everyone on this conference. Don't
discuss the people involved with others outside the conference,
especially if they are identifiable by name or life circumstance.
If anyone outside our membership list is interested in these
dreams, refer them to me as moderator. Do not repost anything
that appears on this conference, or publish it in any form. Do
not post anything that did not originate with you, whether it is
a friend's dream or an interesting piece of news. You may reprint
published material on dreams as long as the source is credited
fully; I will be quoting from Jeremy Taylor and others from time
to time, and will refer you to the source and how to order it.
You are free to email anyone whose personal address is given as a
co-member of Dreamshare, but please respect their needs and
rights to decide what mail to receive and to answer.

If you decide that this place is not right for you, there will be
no offense taken if you decide not to participate. Please don't
stick around and post angry "flame" messages, practical jokes
(this has happened on othe dream discussions), teases, or any
form or harassment or putdown. Life can be hard enough as it is,
and people are sharing a vulnerable part of themselves when
talking about their dream life. As moderator, I will put my foot
down about this sort of behavior.

e) I am not a professional psychologist, though I have been
working with dreams in depth for many years. This list is for
mutual help and enjoyment, and may well have a beneficial effect
on your life, but it is not psychotherapy as the term is commonly
understood. You are encouraged to consult a mental health
professional of your choice if you are seeking such services.
Psychotherapists are as welcome as anyone to join this list, as
equal members of the Dreamshare group. Everyone needs to
understand that this is an egalitarian space in which the
validity of someone's opinion is judged by the response of the
dreamer and the people reading the dream, and not by credentials
of any kind. All participants: please be prepared to be a peer to
anyone on the list; this is not a place to seek, or dispense,
"expert advice."

f) You are not obliged to comment on every dream, to visit or
post on the list every day or at any given interval, or to answer
a certain number of dreams for each one you post. Likewise, don't
become too impatient if there is no response for a while after
you post. This is a vulunteer effort, and we are all busy people.
It's better to wait until you have the time and opportunity to
write a meaningful response than to simply hop in because you
feel you "should." You are encouraged to "lurk" in Dreamshare to
get a sense of our flavor and style before posting.

g) I will be posting suggestions, as we go along, for improving
dream recall, working with dreams alone and with other people,
resolving some "nightmare" energy and other problems, and related
topics. Please feel free to post questions on these issues; there
may be some wonderful ideas shared in this way, and it will let
us know what others want by way of improving their relationship
with their dreams. Again, I recommend, highly, the books and
materials available from Jeremy Taylor for a broad introduction
to working with dreams and the unconscious; see his website cited
above for ordering information,
or ask at your local bookstore.

h) Finally, I want to encourage you to enjoy your dreams! I
regard the dream as a living entity, a visitor that deserves to
be treated with respect and gratitude even if it sometimes speaks
a language that is difficult to understand. I referred to
"nightmares" in quotes above, because I believe it's a mistake to
separate and reject the dreams that are powerfully frightening
when they occur from the rest of our dream life. The difficult
dreams are often those that have the most of valuable of gifts
for us. As you continue to explore your dreams, you will come to
see beauty and perhaps humor as well as precious guidance in all
kinds of dreams.



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DREAM RESEARCH - please help soon!

The relationship between personality and experiences of a
boundary-less mind.

Take the survey online:

http://www.mst-group.co.uk/CBquery.htm



Project Description: I am looking for anyone who has a few
moments to spare to complete a short questionnaire which is about
the relationship between personality and the frequency of
precognitive dreams and transpersonal experiences. If you have
had the experiences - I would like your descriptions to be as
full as possible because I believe personality characteristics
will affect both the experiences you have and the way you
describe them. However, it is not necessary for you to have had
any of the experiences about which I am asking, because all
responses are equally important.


Contact Information: Miss Caroline Bedford, email:
CM.Bedford@virginnet.co.uk
c/o Dr. B.L. Lancaster, Liverpool John Moores University, Henry
Cotton Campus, 15 - 21 Webster Street, Liverpool L3 2ET


About the Researcher: Miss Bedford worked for several years in
sales and marketing before leaving to take a full time degree in
Behavioural Sciences at Nene College, Northampton. At the same
time, she studied Applied Kinesiology, gained a Certificate of
Counselling, and became a Reiki Master. On completion of the
courses she worked as a complementary therapist and counsellor
and taught marketing part-time at a local college. She is
currently at the thesis stage of an MSc degree in Consciousness
and Transpersonal Psychology, at Liverpool John Moores, England,
which she is due to complete this summer.

http://www.mst-group.co.uk/CBquery.htm.



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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis

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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis

This month I'd like to present Barton Santello's series of short
dreams that took place during a noontime nap.

Lucid Nap Dreams
(#577-583)
By Barton Santello

The following series of dreams occurred during one 10 minute nap
at lunchtime. Some are lucid; some not. What is fascinating is
the prolific diversity of dream stories in such a short period of
time.

Dream 577 - Simulating Truck Driving Through the Jungle (Lucid)

At one point I was looking inside a truck cab. I started the
truck and was feeling the response of the truck as the tires
sunk-in and slid along the ground. I could feel the wheels get
stuck and the feeling was truly duplicated. I was impressed at
the level of realism for a nap. I drove the truck over a hill
and it was like I was on a roller coaster ride. I was simulating
crashes, nose first, as the truck came down over the hill,
without having to worry about getting hurt. Very good realism was
displayed when I decided to lose control of the vehicle and crash
head-on into something.

Dream 578 - Jungle River (Lucid)

I was swept down a raging river and then entered calm
tributaries. I recall being aware I was dreaming and began to
look at all the vegetation; thinking how detailed the jungle and
river was created in my mind. I began thinking that this was a
fun way to spend my lunch time.

Dream 579 - No Escape

I'm with a woman. I tell her to pack everything and let's get
out of here together. She says that there is no way she can pack
up and leave, "What about my daughter?" I put my arms around her
and we kiss. My hand goes under her sweater to touch her breast.
Out of what seems like nowhere, a voice yells "NEXT!" All of a
sudden I realize we're standing in line, at the unemployment
office.

Dream 580 - Historical Comedy

I'm watching a comedy video-tape, several comedians are put in
historical situations to see how they would deal with events like
"The Last Supper", "Custers Last Stand" and the "Spanish
Inquisition." I remember thinking to myself that this would be
such fertile ground for a comedy series, if well thought out.

Dream 581- Composing (Lucid)

I'm composing a beautiful classical-type song. I could hear the
music flowing through my head. The song has a melodic quality.
A singer comes in only at the very end. I was aware that I was
dreaming and couldn't help but think that this is how someone
like Mozart must have composed music. Unlike this situation
where I have to be in an altered state to have these beautiful
sounds come "to the surface" of my mind, so to speak, someone
gifted in musical intelligence must be able to produce these
sounds at will, probably just as an average person would
concentrate and devise a solution to a simple problem.

Dream 582 - Cat Cartoon

I'm watching an animated cartoon of a "Garfield"-type cat
sleeping on the couch. A little girl goes over to the cat. I
tell her not to disturb the cat. She does anyway. The cat is
startled and jumps straight up. I laugh. Simple cartoon music
is playing in the background.

Dream 583 - Engineering Consultation (Lucid)

I'm in a professional engineers office. I ask the engineer to
help out a friend with a problem who's studying for the
professional engineer's exam. The man begins flipping through a
reference book, marks some pages and hands it to my friend. He
says, "The author of the reference book has done all the work for
you; these chapters tell you what you need to know." I'm sitting
at a desk observing and thinking that I don't know this guy's
name. Then I hear my own breathing from the nap I am taking. I
become aware that I am dreaming. I begin to think about the
engineer dream character, wondering what his "actual" knowledge
of engineering really is. He seems so confident and business-
like. At this point I'm technically awake just resting with my
eyes closed, motionless and quiet from my nap, yet the dream is
continuing.


The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly issue featuring lucid
dreams and lucid dream related articles, poetry, and book reviews
submitted by readers. For further information contact Lucy
Gillis at
lucy@turbotek.net





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The Dream Doctor

Charles McPhee, Ph.D.

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"The Return Fantasy"


Dear Dream Doctor,


I have recurring dreams about a man I was once very much in love
with. Jeff broke my heart and moved away. Since then, I have had
very "real" dreams about him trying to come back to me, but in
each instance, something keeps us apart. Upon awakening, I have a
sense of sweetness, love and joy that is unlike anything I have
ever experienced. I am currently happily married to a very
wonderful man who satisfies me in every way. So why does Jeff
keep coming back to me in my sleep?


- Megan, Age 31, Redwood Falls, MN, USA


Hi Megan -


There's something different about the ones who break our heart...
We keep on wondering why, and we keep on leaving the door open -
no matter what reality tells us.


Why do we do this? Usually it has to do with our own ego. The key
factor in the dynamic is that they left us - and not the other
way around. They didn't want us. But we still want (need?) the
confirmation of our desireability and attractiveness - so we let
the "return fantasy" linger.


I think your dreams show a fairly realistic assessment of your
situation, though - notwithstanding the "return fantasy." In your
dreams, something always keeps you apart from your ex. This
"something" is the real world.


Congratulations on building such a great relationship with your
husband. This is a genuine accomplishment. As for your "return
fantasy" - I think you may want to let it go. I think you've
outgrown it! :-)


You can visit Charles McPhee at the Dream Doctor site
http://www.dreamdoctor.com


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The Lucid Bird's Words
by Marc Vandekeere

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This month ?The Six Basic Steps to Lucid Dreaming .?

Step 3 : Keeping a dream journal



The Six Basic Steps by Marc Vandekeere

The following is an excerpt from my manual, The Ultimate Lucid
Dreaming Manual Basics and Beyond. I hope it can be used to
maximize your lucid dreaming progress. If you find this
information helpful you may want to check out my lucid dreaming
website for further info, tips, resources and more. The URL of my
site is http://how.to/luciddream and if you have any questions,
feedback or comments, feel free to send me an email. I'm always
happy to hear from other dreamers and love to help out. if and
when I can, thelucidbird@mediaone.net . Stay lucid.

So now we've come to the payoff. In order to make this material
more user-friendly, the information has been divided into four
categories, and there will also be an summarized outline at the
end of the manual. By getting an overview at a glance, it may be
easier for you to thoroughly learn, absorb and internalize all
the information. Hopefully, it will help tighten all the
concepts into one working whole.

The Process
Section One - The Six Basic Steps
Section Two - Other methods
Section Three - General tips
Section Four - Tools and Tactics

All these sections have one objective - teaching you how to
become lucid in your dreams. After you've learned the process,
methods, tips, tools, and tactics, we'll cover the more advanced
techniques that you will need to know once you become lucid.

The Process

There are many techniques and methods that you can use for
inducing lucid dreams, but there are basically two different ways
of becoming lucid. You can either have dream-induced or wake-
induced lucid dreams. Stephen LaBerge coined the term D.I.L.D.
(Dream Induced Lucid Dream) for dreams in which you become lucid
while within a dream. By training your awareness, you will
somehow realize that you are dreaming while you are dreaming.
This is by far the most common way of having a lucid dream, but
it is also possible to directly enter a lucid dream from a waking
state. These Wake Induced Lucid Dreams, or W.I.L.D.s, are far
more rare, but as LaBerge so aptly labeled them, they are quite
an experience. While covering the basics we will be dealing
primarily with dream induced lucid dreams. When we move beyond
the basics, we will be dealing with the more
advanced techniques that will include inducing W.I.L.D.s. There
are many methods to induce lucid dreams, but there is an
underlying process behind most if not all of them. I've broken
this underlying process down into six basic steps that will serve
as our beginning regime. Once you absorb these steps and start
following them, it is only a matter of time before you have your
first lucid dream. In case you are wondering how long it will
take for you to have you first one, just follow through with the
steps and have faith that you will have one.

According to statistics, the time it takes for someone to have
their first lucid dream averages from three weeks to two months,
but yours may be tonight so don't be discouraged if you try for a
while and don't succeed. There seems to be an obsession in our
society for instant results. If you are one of these people,
realize that this is one of your first obstacles to overcome.
Only one thing is certain - If you never stop trying, you are
guaranteed to succeed.




The Six Basic Steps


1) Doing the Mental Prep-Work - see Electric Dreams 7(4) April
2000
2) Increasing dream recall -FOCUS THIS MONTH
3) Keeping a dream journal
4) Becoming familiar with your Dreams
5) Adding Awareness to your Waking Consciousness
6) Linking your Awareness to your Dreams



Step Three) Keeping a dream journal

The *single most important thing* that you can do to
increase your dream recall and to maximize your lucid dreaming
progress is to keep a dream journal. This increases your recall
by engraining the idea that dreams are important. It also helps
you become familiar with your particular dreams, which is the
focus of the next step. The habit of writing down your dreams
soon becomes a habit of recalling your dreams. If you seriously
want to learn to lucid dream, you MUST keep a dream journal. It
is not an option.

I strongly emphasize this because I know from experience
that keeping a journal is a crucial part of the process. I had
been trying to lucid dream for several months with little success
until I started keeping one. Shortly after I started
consistently making my dream journal entries, I began to recall
more dreams with greater clarity and detail, and this led to my
first lucid dream. Even now after years of lucid dreaming, I
still see a significant correlation. If I neglect my dream
journal, my lucid dreams become slightly less frequent. All it
usually takes is a few days of making entries and I will be back
on the lucid track.

Here are some tips on keeping your journal. Record all of
your dreams with as much detail as you can. Even if something
seems trivial, you should still write it down because it may turn
out to be significant when viewed in the long run. Write down
not only what happened during the dream but also what you were
feeling and what you were thinking at the time. These emotional
and mental notes will help you later when you are becoming
familiar with your dreams. This will also help you see how your
daily affairs and your waking mind influence your dreams. For
example, you may notice during times of stress that you will have
stress-influenced dreams. You may dream of being late for an
exam or being unprepared for a business meeting. The point is
that your dreams are sending you a message. They are reflecting
what you think and feel at a subconscious level. Looking at the
patterns of your dreams and examining the recurrence of certain
dream themes will tell you a lot about yourself and the areas in
your life that need attention. This is yet another reason why
keeping your dream journal is so important. It allows you to
have an overview of your unique dream patterns which are actually
symbolic reflections of an ever changing you.

When keeping your journal, it is best to write your entries
in present tense instead of using past tense. For example, you
would write, "I'm walking down this street and I see a man"
instead of "I walked down this street and saw a man." By
writing in the present tense, you may be able to remember even
more of your dreams as you are recording them. Also, when
working with some of the methods we will cover later like dream
reentry and dream incubation, it is best to be thinking and
recording in terms of now not then. As an added bonus, writing
in the present tense makes for better reading when you are
reviewing your journal at a later date.

With each dream journal entry, you should include a date, a
time if you can, and a title for each dream. To find a suitable
name for your dream, imagine if it was a movie and choose the
most appropriate title. Something simple is usually best as long
as it captures the essence of the dream. Anything from "Red ants
in a rainforest" to "Class reunion on an airplane" will be fine.
If you have several different dreams during the night, it is best
to separate and title each one. Mixing separate dreams together
may make the dream's message harder to find and may make choosing
a distinctive title nearly impossible. The main purpose of
titling your dreams is to make them easier to access at a glance
when you are looking through your dream journal.

Now, if you are like me or like most people, I am assuming
one of two things. You are either going to think you can learn
to lucid dream without keeping a dream journal or else you will
start keeping a dream journal and before you know it, it will be
gathering dust next to that book you've been planning on reading
for about a year. I say this only because I thought the same
way. Not to say that it could not be done, anything is possible,
but why not increase your odds, maximize your results, and speed
up the process with a proven method. Once you get into the habit
of keeping your journal, it will become a daily routine like
putting your clothes on in the morning. You just need to do it
and consistently follow through with it. Keeping a dream journal
is definitely not the easiest thing to do. I have spent many a
day thumbing through random pieces of papers scribbled with dream
accounts. Although it gets easier with time, in the beginning it
may be helpful to follow some of the following pointers.

To make the journalizing process easier I have several
suggestions based on different approaches I have tried combined
with the advice of others. At first glance, it seems like such a
simple thing. You dream, you wake up, and you write down your
dreams, but there is much more to it than that. For example,
when you awaken if you start writing in your journal as you are
recalling the previous night's dreams, it is hard to remember
everything accurately in the right sequence. You may have
already moved on to a new scene but then you remember something
you had forgotten. This prompted me to write everything I could
remember on a sheet of paper and then after doing this I would
write an organized account of it in my journal. This works fine
if you have lots of free time but with time being a valuable
commodity it is rather inefficient.

Along with the difficulty of balancing your time and
determining how organized you need to have your journal, another
problem you will encounter is the simple fact that you have to do
a lot of writing which in itself can become monotonous. The best
approach is to recall all that you can in your head before
writing anything, but even so you probably will remember more as
you are writing. By recording your dreams only on the right-hand
pages of the journal, you can write late arriving memories on the
left-hand page and conveniently draw an arrow to the portion of
the dream in which it occurred. You can also use the left-hand
pages to draw pictures of any dream objects or maps of the
dreamscape. This tip may require you to buy double the amount of
journals, but if you want more organized entries it certainly
works.

If you do choose to use this method, you should use the
left-hand pages to record what you did while awake that day,
where you went, who you saw, or any other details of your day.
Whether you use the left/right page method or not, you should
include this daily information somewhere in your journal,
preferably on the same page as your dream entries. This can be
very helpful when you are looking for patterns in your dreams.
For example, I have found that I will often dream about things I
have seen or experienced from two days before or two days after
the dream. If I watched a program about natural disasters on
Monday, I would not be surprised if I dreamed about it on
Wednesday. If I dream about a person who I have not heard from
in a while, they will usually call me two days later. I don't
know why it happens, but by analyzing my dreams and the journal
entries of what I did for the day, I have found this to be one of
my dream patterns.

Many people recommend using a dictaphone to record your
dreams. Upon awakening you can just speak your dreams aloud into
the recorder, and enter them into your journal later. I've tried
this method and found that for me this is not the way to go. It
is not very time efficient. It certainly is easier to record
them verbally, but the problem comes when you are transcribing
these tapes. It takes far too long to listen to these recordings
and write them down in your journal. Also, you still have the
problem of trying to keep the dream's sequencing in order and
this becomes even more troublesome when using a dictaphone or
tape recorder.

There are many different styles of journal keeping and
everyone may have a natural preference, but if you want to save
some time and you have access to a computer than you may be in
luck.. Learning mostly through trial and error, I have developed
an extremely easy and efficient method. Prompted by the idea of
how wonderful it would be if my dictaphone could write up my
journal entries for me, I employed the help of my personal
computer. There are many reasonably priced speech to text
recognition programs available for most home computers. I
purchased a program called IBM ViaVoice98 for around fifty
dollars. After installing and setting up the program, it will
convert what you say directly into text on your computer screen.
You can speak at a normal pace and it does all the typing for
you. Most importantly, you can use it directly with Microsoft
Word, a common word processing program. This allows you to
dictate directly into thew word processor and when you are done
you can save it as a file and store it in your new computerized
dream journal.

The speech to text program is by no means flawless, but it
works just fine for a dream journal. It may make an occasion
error but the journal entries as a whole are relatively legible
and the time saved is enormous. Having a few jumbled words here
and there is much easier to correct than doing everything by
hand. It completely removes the burden of writing down your
dreams, and it totally solves the problem of jumbled dream
sequences because you can cut and paste any misplaced dream
fragments into the appropriate places. If you have the
resources, this is by far the easiest and most efficient way of
keeping a dream journal.

There is also a wide variety of dream journal software
available on the Internet and possibly at your local computer
store. Two of the better programs available are Awaken98 by
Awake-software.com and Alchera Suite 3 by Mythwell.com. They are
reasonably priced between thirty to forty dollars depending on
the program. These programs can be extremely useful for keeping
an organized journal, analyzing your dreams, and cross-
referencing past dreams. They have features that allow you to
search your journal for particular words. For example, if you
were interested in examining any dreams with beaches in them, you
could search your entire journal for a keyword like "beach", and
the program would scan and retrieve any dream entries that
contain the keywords. This can be an extremely efficient way of
analyzing your dream patterns. They even contain a feature that
allows you to look up the meaning of particular dream images by
using a built-in dream dictionary. As you become more familiar
with your own dream symbolism, you can even personalize the
definitions to reflect your own specific meanings.

The wonders of modern technology are beginning to put an end
to the paper-based journal. With all the benefits of dream
journal software it definitely seems to be the way to go, but
there is one problem. I have not found any programs that have
integrated the speech to text capability. Since this speech to
text method outperforms any other methods I have found thus far,
the best way to overcome this problem is to use a dream journal
program that can import text like Awaken98. This way you can
take advantage of the both benefits. You can journalize your
dreams with a speech to text program using your word processor
and then copy and paste the text into the dream journal program.
Again, if you have access to a computer you should seriously
consider incorporating it into your dreaming regime, and if you
don't have a computer, you may now have a need for one.


NEXT MONTH Step Four: Becoming familiar with your Dreams


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The DreamSpinner Column
Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers
By Bjo Ashwill
http://www.spinner-soft.com

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Hi, Electric Dreamers. I am Bjo Ashwill and will be writing a
monthly column on my experiences of creating a computer software
program that does very detailed analysis of dream narratives. You
are welcome to visit my web site and check out DreamSpinner, the
software program I will be describing. http://www.spinner-
soft.com.

In this column I shall describe, over time, how to use the
computer's power to store, group, analyze and retrieve
information from our dreams. DreamSpinner's greatest power is
working with long "over time" dream series, although it can work
with individual dreams as well. How do metaphor patterns change
over time? That is the question that began my journey toward
creating DreamSpinner.

First, a quick introduction of myself. I am a counselor, a dream
worker, a performer, writer and director. I have been interested
in dreams all my life. My dad once told me that I used to tell
him incredible stories. He now realizes I was describing my
dreams to him. Too bad he didn't write them down for me!!

In the mid-1970's, I had finished my Master's program in
Counseling Psychology, experienced a divorce and struggled with
the debilitating results of Rheumatoid Arthritis. My dreams
became a stronger fascination for me and I began to consistently
write them down. Now, thirty years later, I am the proud curator
of over 3500 dreams. The important question became: "How Do I
Sort Through ALL that material and make sense of it??"

To get people up to speed on what DreamSpinner is all about, I
reprint here the original Abstract I wrote for the Berkeley,
California ASD conference where I first presented the concept of
DreamSpinner. The present day evolution of that program isn't yet
capable of all I envisioned. But step by step, it is getting
there.

ABSTRACT
DREAMSEARCH AND THE COMPUTER
Presented At ASD Conference, 1996

Dream search has been going on for thousands of years. We
peer into our dreams in many different ways and styles. Now the
computer is an additional tool we can use to glean those
insights. The computer is like a multi-faceted lens. We can
choose to move in close and personal, like a macro lens on a
camera, examining the fine details, magnified. We can swoop out
like a telephoto lens and see the detail in relation to its dream
environment. We can even fly up to outer space in a satellite
view of the entire inner world picture.

In addition we can imitate the workings of our dream
creator, Ms. Creativity, Herself, by using the raw material of
the dream narrative to break apart, reassemble, and tumble unlike
things together. This creates insight as we spin through the
mosaic of our lifelong metadream.

Jung suggested a 100 dream series to work with when he
analyzed someone's dreams. I extend that to every dream a person
has recorded. I believe it is all one dream, when viewed from a
longitudinal point of view. It is our "body of work" over a
lifetime.

I began this work in progress computer software package
because I kept asking myself, "Didn't I dream that symbol
before?" I used WordPerfect 5.1. I recorded my dreams. Then I
created some rather lengthy macros to do the tasks I needed done.
The centerpiece is the capability of searching all your dreams
for a particular symbol and creating a sub file of only those
dreams. I added the ability to figure the percentage of times
this symbol appears in the total master document. I created my
own personal symbol dictionary from the dream narratives which is
many times more complete than any symbol dictionary you can buy.

I loved the speed with which I could pull together
information. If I had decided to check out if I'd ever dreamed
about cats before by skimming each dream in my dream journals,
I'd still be here working on the first symbol. From this simple
beginning, more and more ways to use this information gathering
method became evident.

When the software package is complete, I will be able to
choose many different styles and techniques to view or play with
the material. I can use left and right brain techniques,
depending on my personal style and mood of the day.
The centerpiece is the great search engine. From there you
can:

1. Create your own personal symbol dictionary.
2. Create dictionary of different cultural and spiritual
interpretations of symbols and words.
3. Count and tabulate the most frequent (chose your own number)
symbols in your dreams.
4. Create categories of your dream material. Examples of
categories are : male characters, female characters, neutral
characters, settings, objects, actions, emotions, colors, etc.
5. Pull together sub files of all the dreams you've ever had
with a particular symbol in it.
6. Find dreams where two symbols often show up in the same
dream.
7. Do archetype searches.
8. Examine problem solving techniques implied in dreams.
9. Create a time line and examine the changing of a symbol over
time.
10. Time line events. Analysis of ages mentioned in dreams. Same
age as dreamer, generational (parents) what specific ages of
childhood.
11. Tracking special dates like birthdays on a time line. Do I
have reoccurring dream motifs?
12. Search out the many faces of the shadow.
13. Create lists. Example: Pull up every "she says" sentence.
What is the feminine telling you over and over.
14. Search all the first sentences of each dream. Create theme
list.
15. Search all the last sentences of each dream. Create future
direction list.
16. Do numerology.
17. And the bottom line: Use the computer to reorganize the
material to create new spontaneous relationships with one's own
set of symbols.

Not only is the information intriguing, but you can then use
other techniques to gain more insights. Such as:

1. Dialoguing with dreams characters and images.
2. Describing and doing a character analysis of the dream
characters.
3. Placing symbols in relation to each other and exploring what
this might mean.
4. Changing the dream. Rewriting it.
5. Do line drawings to depict the dream images.
6. Create a dream. Take sentences of dream and translate into
sound and graphics.
7. Look at plot lines of dreams
8. Break dream into specific scenes.
9. Tell the story of the dream in general terms to get the basic
plot and structure.
10. Generate list of tasks dreamer can do in waking life.
(example: dreams hiding in small place. tasks: stretch body out,
make large gestures. get into open large spaces. open something
symbolically. declare self.)
11. Like the Make up stories game, leave blanks for adjectives
nouns and verbs from your dreamwork to be filled in.
12. Keep a day residue journal.
13. Work dreams from the different perspectives: physical
health, sexual, spiritual, work, relationship, childhood events,
family, etc.
14. Keeps track of all your dreamwork journaling, connected to
the individual dream.

This is a partial list of what this computer software can be
capable of.

People ask, "Aren't you just chopping up the dreams into
little pieces?" "Won't that destroy all the built up meanings of
the wholeness of a dream?" I must answer yes. I am chopping up
the dreams and separating out pieces that were created to be
together. The implication I hear in the voices of my questioners
is that this destroys any value the dream may have. I disagree. I
think it augments what we already are learning from working a
whole dream. We are given the gift of a complete dream. The
simple act of trying to translate that into language alters it. I
honor my dreams as they are. Using the computer to tease out more
insights does not take away the whole dream. It still is there.
_______________________

This column will discuss the many steps I needed to take to
create the current version of DreamSpinner and what fascinating
things I learned on this journey.

Subjects like:

1. Creating categories.
2. Dealing with left brain computers from a right brain mind.
3. User tips for DreamSpinner.
4. Completing the circle from left brain to right brain and
back.
5. Finding the patterns in your dreams with examples from my own
dream series.
6. And much, much more!

I hope the column will be interactive in the sense that you may
have questions or comments you would like to make about your own
dream journey with computers. Please email me at
dreambjo@hotmail.com with any thoughts, comments, questions or
suggestions.




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Transforming Dreams:
An Interview with Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D.


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Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D. is one of the leading scholars in the
field of dreams and dreaming. He is a past president of the
Association for the Study of Dreams, teaches at Santa Clara
University and has focused on the interplay of dreaming,
religion, psychology, and culture. Some of his books include
_The Wilderness of Dreams, An Introduction to the Psychology of
Dreaming_, _Spiritual Dreaming: A Cross-Cultural and Historical
Journey_ and _Visions of the Night : Dreams, Religion, and
Psychology_.

He is a former President of the Association for the Study of
Dreams, and he is Secretary-Treasurer of the Person, Culture and
Religion Group of the American Academy of Religion. He is on the
editorial boards of the journals Dreaming and Religious Studies
Review. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Chicago
Divinity School in 1992, his M.T.S. from Harvard Divinity School
in 1986, and his B.A. from Stanford University in 1984.

In his latest book, _Transforming Dreams Learning Spiritual
Lessons from the Dreams You Never Forget_ (John Wiley & Sons,
2000) , Kelly offers an accessible journey for all dreamers into
the world of big dreams, dreams so powerful that they demand
attention and refuse to be cast aside as "just a dream". The
book begins by taking the reader through the most commonly
experienced powerful dreams, such as sexual dreams, nightmares,
dreams of death and titanic dreams. Another part of the book
offers techniques that are useful for novice and expert
dreamworkers, considerations of theories around these techniques
and an anthropological overview.

[RCW] : (Richard Wilkerson for Electric Dreams) Hi Kelly,
thanks for joining us here at Electric Dreams for an interview!

[KB]: (Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D) My pleasure!

[RCW] : Kelly, I have found all your books written so that any
intelligent person can access them. But your current book,
__Transforming Dreams_, seems to be a departure from your
usually scholarly style of writing with lots of references and
really is accessible to a larger public. Was this due to the
nature of the material or a desire on your part to reach more
people?

[KB]: A little of both. I appreciate your saying my other,
more academic books are accessible to general readers--that's
definitely been my goal. But I've always wanted to write a book
that offers new ideas and practical suggestions to people (in or
out of academics) who are fascinated, perplexed, and inspired by
their most powerful dream experiences.

[RCW] : I was particularly pleased with the Nightmare section.
They are often made out to be villains of the night, and it's a
rare person that would wish to have them, yet they provide us
with such great opportunities. I especially liked your
observation about how the extreme emotions that come with
nightmares offer us a chance to widen our emotional spectrum.
When did you begin seeing them as something other than a symptom
to get rid of?

[KB]: That's one of the many points in the book which is rooted
in my own personal experience. My own nightmares, particularly
the ones I had in my teens and early 20's, were tremendously
important experiences for me in terms of learning about myself
and the world around me. I would be a much more limited and
close-minded person if it weren't for those nightmares.

[RCW] : It must be very hard as a parent to both calm a child
that just had a nightmare and validate the dream at the same
time. Do you have some simple suggestions for parents?

[KB]: It is hard to calm a child who's just woken up from a
nightmare, and I tend to focus on comforting first (with lots of
hugs, etc.) and then, in the morning, on reflecting on the
nightmare's contents. Children seem to enjoy drawing pictures,
play-acting, and using dolls or action figures to express their
dreams, and with a particularly bad nightmare these methods can
help a child put the dream "out there," where it can be more
safely discussed, examined, and processed.


[RCW] : One of the unique concept themes in your book is about
the "realness" of dreams and how this is a key to understanding
big dreams. I want to come back to this on a more abstract level
later, but for now could you talk about how the realness of the
nightmare experience can be an important component in the
nightmare being useful to the dreamer?

[KB]: What's real about a nightmare is the emotion of fear, and
that emotion usually has direct physical accompaniments
(sweating, trembling, racing heart, etc.). I tend to see that
"realistic" quality of nightmares as a means of emphasizing the
importance of whatever the dream is expressing--it's as if the
dreaming self were saying, "Here, pay attention to THIS, it's
really, really important!"


[RCW] : The idea of titanic dreams that go past the organic was
quite interesting and not often addressed. Could you describe
this a bit to the Electric Dreams readers?

[KB]: Well, I have to admit this is a realm of dreaming I do
not at all understand myself; all I try to do in the book is
report my observation that a rare few dreams seem to have a
strangely abstract setting (space, a vast field, pure night), few
or no other characters, and a sensation of encountering massive
forces, often in the form of geometric shapes (e.g., spheres).
It's very hard to put into words, but my guess is that such
dreams may (I emphasize may!) be giving us a glimpse of life at a
non-organic, atomic level. That's wildly speculative, of course,
but I'm very intrigued by these dreams, and I intend to keep
studying them and seeing if I can make any better sense of them.

[RCW] : I'd like to hear from dreamgroups around the country if
they handle these dreams differently than other dreams. I know
in my dream groups when this kind of dream comes up that its very
hard to relate to and difficult to know what to do with in a
satisfying way. Do you have any suggestions for a group approach
with this kind of dream?

[KB]: I'm not sure I do, because the dreams seem to lead off
into realms of existence and the cosmos far beyond our individual
human lives. Maybe I would ask why have I had such a dream NOW;
is there any value or purpose to my gaining a new view on my
individual life in the broader context of the universe?

[RCW] : You identified the relief upon awakening from a
nightmare as an important piece of the dreamwork not to be
neglected. I know when I awake from a nightmare I struggle with
wanting to just feel the relief and push the dream away, and yet
the desire to recall as many details as possible. Do you have
any suggestions for this difficult space? (It's hard to journal
when my body is shaking!)

[KB]: I have that feeling, too; I sometimes wake up from a bad
dream and say to myself, yuck! I don't want to deal with that! I
guess it's just the disciplined practice of dreamwork that zeroes
in on that reaction and recognizes it as a special opportunity
for new growth and insight.

[RCW] : I liked the idea that superego visitation dreams, where
old authorities and critics come back to haunt us, can be used a
value-barometers. How do these dream barometers work?

[KB]: One of the many functions of dreams seems to be to check
how well our current lives are matching up to the ideals, goals,
and values we consciously hold.
Sometimes the dreams give us the equivalent of a pat on the
back--good job, you're doing great! More often, though, our
dreams push us to do better; they prod us to recognize where
we're falling short, where we're being hypocritical, where we
need to move in our growth and development. Teachers, parents,
famous people, even people we don't like in waking life can all
serve in our dreams as the voices of new growth.

[RCW] : On the section about death dreams you say that "The
supreme existential importance of death makes it a perfect symbol
for the dreaming imagination to use in conveying a variety of
meanings." Can you elaborate a little on this and the notion of
"intense memorability"?

[KB]: In my research I've found that dreams dealing with death,
dying, and people who have died are among the most powerful and
memorable types of dreams people ever experience. That's an
important fact, and one way of explaining it is to recognize that
the cycle of living and dying is fundamental to all human
existence; thus, dreaming about death becomes a perfect way of
reflecting more deeply on life.

[RCW] : I really like morbid topics but others might want to
hear more about dreams and sex. You propose a theory that the
cyclic REM arousal is a fine-tuning of the workings of the
reproductive system. I'm trying to reconcile this with the way
that dreams provide us with the most bizarre and unexpected of
sexual partners. (at least mine do, hee hee). That is, if the
REM arousal cycle is trying to fine tune us, and dreams are
trying to widen the spectrum, is there a way to resolve this
conflict?

[KB]: I see it as a matter of the general function of dreaming
and the particular function of dreams. In general, I think
dreaming (and the REM arousal cycle associated with it) helps
keep our reproductive system is good working order; the regular
genital arousal that accompanies REM sleep is an indication of
this.
Regarding particular dreams which rise to the level of conscious
awareness, I think their function is to prompt us to reflect on
our waking lives through the lens of our sexual desires. Because
dreams are usually trying to prompt us to grow in new directions,
the appearance of unusual sexual partners, positions, etc. helps
in that process of stimulating new conscious reflection--"Wait a
minute, I was fooling around with HER, and we were doing THAT?"
Such dreams (which of course have very powerful and realistic
sensations attached to them!) are a marvelous way of prodding
consciousness to pay attention to something new.


[RCW] : Again the notion of intensely memorable experience
comes up. Can you talk a little about how this is important
beyond the intrinsic pleasure of the moment?

[KB]: The fact I focus on is that we forget the vast majority of
our dreaming experience. I believe this means that when a dream
is so intensely vivid and literally unforgettable, there must be
a reason for that. If our dreaming imaginations go to so much
trouble to create something that truly burns itself into our
memories, we can be sure it's not a random or meaningless event.

[RCW] : I have often wondered if the Catholic Church is going to
have to change their catechism on confession around dreams. As I
understand it, dreams are not confessed because they are seen as
non-volitional. The notion of lucid sex re-introduces the will
back into the equation. Ah, the problematics of theologians!

[KB]: That's a great point! The question of whether people are
morally responsible for their (immoral) sexual dreams goes way
back in the Judeo-Christian tradition. I think Thomas Aquinas,
the 13th century Scholastic theologian and a major authority in
the Catholic Church, would probably consider lucid dream sex to
be immoral.

[RCW] : As dream sharing begins returning to culture as an
everyday event, how would you suggest we handle it when other
people's children try to share dreams with us with sexual
content? Or is dream sharing for kids inappropriate outside of
the immediate family?

[KB]: I definitely do not think dreamsharing with kids should be
restricted to the immediate family, because schools, camps,
churches, and peer groups can be wonderful settings for
dreamsharing. However, as is true with dreamsharing of any kind,
creating a safe, secure, and confidential space is crucial. With
children, I think discussions of sexual feelings have to be
handled very, very carefully, and that usually means it's best
restricted to the immediate family.

[RCW] : Like death, sexual dreams are sort of intrusive and offer
us a break in the normal flow of life. But unlike death, which is
rarely welcome, sexual dreams might be incubated. Still, I think
sex is a difficult force to work with and I am usually drawn
quickly into unconscious behavior,

  
sort of like Jung's anima
possession. The natural aversion of death almost makes it easier
to work with. Do you feel that grassroots dream sharing groups
should avoid actual sexual encounters in the way therapists must?

[KB]: That's an interesting idea that death dreams may
paradoxically be easier to deal with than sexual dreams. I share
your experience with sex dreams frequently leading into strange
behavior--that's what makes them so disturbing, and yet so
potentially revealing. Regarding sexual encounters between
members of a dreamsharing group, I don't like to automatically
apply the standards of psychotherapy to dreamsharing, because
therapy is premised on an unequal power relationship and assumes
that the client has a problem that needs to be healed;
dreamsharing, in my view, depends on an equality of power among
the group members and a non-utilitarian openness to whatever
comes up in the dreams (whether they relate to "problems" or
not). So I wouldn't put the question in terms of "professional
ethics"; rather, I'd say it's just common sense morality to use
good judgment in not fooling around with people you shouldn't
fool around with. To close on a possibly provocative note: if I
were feeling a sexual attraction toward a member of a
dreamsharing group, I would interpret that symbolically as an
expression of something coming up in the dreamwork, rather than a
literal desire to have sex with that person.

[RCW] : In discussing the difficulties of dream interpretation, I
liked the notion of finding a path between babble and blowing the
dream away. That is, we can talk too much and we can be
overwhelmed and ignore the dream. You seem to define a playful
scene of enactment and tolerance for absence
of premature closure. Have you named this space? Can you talk
about it a little here?

[KB]: Well, I don't really have a name for it, beyond "playing"-
-that's what I was getting at in my earlier answer, that
dreamsharing at its best is playful, not driven by a goal, an
aim, a purpose (e.g., "solving a problem"). Playing isn't easy;
just watch a group of kids at a park, and you can see how hard it
is to generate and then maintain a good, free-flowing game. But
once you've got it going, once everyone's creative juices are
flowing, then truly magical things happen. That's what happens
(ideally!) in a dreamsharing group.

[RCW] : Do you feel that new dreamwork techniques will continue
to come out, or has the field pretty much gotten the basics
already in the techniques that are being used?

[KB]: I'm sure new techniques and methods will keep coming.
Some of the basic ideas are truly ancient--I still think the
second century A.D. Roman dream interpreter Artemidorus laid out
the basic program we're all following today in terms of carefully
seeking connections between the details of the dream and the
details of the dreamer's personal life. But the creative power
of dreaming is truly infinite, and so I expect there's no end to
the methods people can and will devise to better understand their
dreams.

[RCW] : I liked that you gave very good examples of how to open
up the imagery and push this process through to a new level. That
is, not to say "Oh, so that is what the dream is about!". This
seems to emerge from your alliance with a teleological
perspective. Can you say a little about getting a bearing on a
dream's direction?

[KB]: I come back to the experience of especially powerful,
memorable dreams. My conviction is that such dreams are pushing
us to grow and develop, and the effort to interpret these dreams
is an effort to discern the direction in which they are pushing
us. I'll use a horticultural metaphor: dreams have their roots
in our past, but they are flowering out into our future.

[RCW] : I have a few questions that Electric Dreams readers
always want me to ask about authors favorites: What's your
favorite dream, what's your favorite dream book and what advice
do you have for people who what to devote there lives to dream
studies and dreamwork?

[KB]: My favorite dream? Hmmm, well, I love flying dreams, of
course, and I deeply value the dark wisdom of the nightmares I've
suffered over the years. My favorite dream book--that's a cruel,
cruel question! I can tell you that the first books I read that
really got me into the whole world of dreaming were Jung's Man
and His Symbols and Ann Faraday's Dream Power. It's hard to give
general advice about "careers in dreamwork," but I'd suggest that
people 1) always stay true to their own dreams, 2) not become too
discouraged at the tepid interest many people in modern society
have toward dreams, and 3) take a long-term view of building up
whatever dream-related activity or practice best integrates their
talents, opportunities, and ideals.

[RCW] : Then of course, there is the question all author's
complain about getting: what's next? What is your next book and
project?

[KB]: I've got several projects in the works. I've written a
science fiction novel, Across a Bridge of Dreams, which I'm
trying to get published; I'm working on an anthology, The
Interpretations of Dreaming: A Critical Reader in Psychoanalysis,
Comparative Religion, and Cognitive Science, and also a textbook
on Psychology and Religion which I'm thinking of titling, The
Soul, The Psyche, The Brain. I've got a screenplay in the works
(that's the "play-time" project!), and I'm continuing my research
on spiritually meaningful dreams and on the political dimensions
of dreaming. (For readers who would like to help me with the
dreams and politics project, please visit my web site at
http://www.kellybulkeley.com/idxresearch.htm).

[RCW] : I was happy to see that you recommended to people that
they actually come online and try out dream work on the Internet
before passing judgment. I'm hoping your publisher will allow us
to put online your dreamer's utopia statement, which speaks about
a time when dreams finally become our companions.

[KB]: That sounds fine to me! I'll check with Wiley ASAP.

[RCW] : Kelly, thanks for your thoughts and time. I feel the
dream field is really quite lucky to have you!

[KB]: Thanks for giving my book such a thorough reading, and
best wishes to ED readers!

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You can order Transforming Dreams online and find out more about
Kelly Bulkeley at:
http://www.kellybulkeley.com
E-mail: kellybulkeley@earthlink.net

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Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:
Dreaming Through the Houses: 6th House

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Have you ever wondered how dreams and astrology are connected?

There are many ways we can connect dreams to astrology, and many
don't require that you know all about your Natal Chart. In this
column we will be exploring the symbolic rather than predictive
aspects of astrology. Symbolic astrology attempts to use the
images of astrological to give meaning to one's life and empower
choices rather than predict paths. We do this by imaginal
overlay. In this process we impleach, (poetically interweave)
dream, image, feeling, life and symbol in a way to evoke a felt
sense of the dream's imagery and its position in our life.

This year we are focusing each month on a different House. The
inner circle of the Natal or Birth Chart is divided into 12
distinct regions know as Houses. They relate to everyday
activates. One will be about physical appearances and
temperament, while another relates to possessions, for example.
Planets and signs fall within these Houses and influence the
areas of focus. We will be watching for images of planets, signs
and other celestial events and hopefully begin to see the
emergence of an astrological chart that dips into birth charts,
dreams, and our waking life.


The Sixth House traditionally includes such areas as work,
health, servants, and now employer-employee relationships. Thus
we are moving into an individual?s work habits, the situations
one is likely to attract to the work situation and one?s attitude
toward routines and service. Today?s servants are more likely to
be the waiter, the repair person, the toll booth collector, the
customer service agent. Health may be seen as the body vehicle
of service.
Dream: I am in a coal (?) mine and we are sending buckets of
rocks up to the next level. I notice one fellow who is weaker
than the rest and kind of sneaky and seems to put something other
than coal in the buckets. A foreman catches him when a larger
worker tilts his head in the little guy?s direction. The foreman
doubles the load he must dig and send up to the next level.

Dream: I am trying to get the washing machine repair main to fix
the washing machine. He continually complains about the color of
clothes that are being washed, that yellow clothes clog the
machine and should only be used with fabric softener. I ignore
his suggestions and ask say its the spin cycle that needs to be
fixed regardless of the cloth?s color. His attitude really bugs
me and I know he thinks I?m stupid.

Dream: There is an assembly line were we have to put several
items together to make a musical instrument. Its kind of like a
xylophone but different items are used for the keys. I find it
odd that there are so many different ways to put the instruments
together. We are allowed to let some items go by if we feel
someone else needs them. I?m surprised when I see on the assembly
line toys from my childhood.

Dream: I notice a man working on a train track. He seems to be
hammering in spikes, but stops every once in awhile to do
something. I see is continually pushing bulges in his body. As
one bulge goes in, another seems to pop out. I?m especially
disturbed when his head bulges.


The first six signs and houses of the Zodiac are often associated
with one?s personal development, while the last six are
associated with one?s participation in group life. This make the
sixth house a kind of turning point. While traditionally it is
seen as weak or not very important (*), it may be seen as
important in the integration of the first five houses in
preparation for the last six and in group life. Work and
relationships therein become a symbol of how one has integrated
the first houses and is able to use them. Compare, for example,
the coal mine dream to the assembly line dream. In the coal mine,
there is an unintegrated shadow and a sense that the work is more
like slavery. What may need to be integrated is the ego, not the
shadow - so to speak. The weak resistant miner shows signs of
creativity and may offer some new paths to the dream miner. The
assembly line worker also has some stuck-in-a routine issues, but
seems better integrated, building musical instruments that
include personal items from an earlier stage.

The body also is a place of integration. Note that in the Rail
worker dream the poor fellow?s bulges might correspond to
chakra?s and energy centers in the body. Often when we have
earlier issues unresolved they come out during work.

Thus sixth house dreams may be a kind of testing and turning
point where we can look at the ways in which we work and are
worked, our inner and outer habits and patterns and the ways the
elements of earlier houses have been integrated. Habits and
personalities that may have worked in the family or school may
not work so well in the public sphere. Finding ways to express
and unfold these personalities will be the work of the next six
houses.

Note on Virgo
(*) This may be due to the interpretations of Virgo, who is
connected with this house. Virgo?s virginity is often
literalized, thus being seen as a form of naivete and
inexperienced and lack of sexuality. However, these
interpretations don?t hold up mythologically. The Virgin
goddesses were often prostitutes and ruled over the mysteries of
sexual union and birth. Later patriarchal pairings gave these
goddesses over to various gods and diminished their powers. More
currently the virgin goddess has been restored as the feminine
archetype that can mate and give birth, but is never fully under
the dominion of any male deity or power.

M. Aionia





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June 2000

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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
pcoats@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/News/global.htm.


This Month's Features:

NEWS
- Basic Training in Dreamwork Therapy
- Dreams in African American Life
- Celebrate Freud's Interpetation of Dreams

RESEARCH & REQUESTS
- Looking for "Unimportant" Dreams

WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Montague Ullman
- Kelly Bulkeley
- New additions to Creative Spirit
- Online Dream Commentary

DREAM CALENDAR for June-July 2000



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N E W S

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>>>> Basic Training in Dreamwork Therapy

Stephon Kaplan-Williams' professional Three Year Basic Training
in Dreamwork Therapy begins in September in both Norway and the
Netherlands. Kaplan-Williams, the author of many books on dreams,
including his classic, THE JUNGIAN-SENOI DREAMWORK MANUAL and now
his DREAM CARDS, started his dreamwork training programs in 1980
and has developed them further ever since with a number of
graduates in dreamwork leadership and the advanced, advanced
training for becoming a professional dreamwork therapist. These
trainings involve hundreds of hours of personal and group
dreamwork plus a thorough supervision in working with others and
using the methodology Strephon has organized into a complete
dreamwork approach. Contact Strephon at his email or fax numbers
as follows: strephon@xs4all.nl and 31 24 388 1259. See his web
pages at www.dreamwork2000.com.


>>>>>Dreams in African-American Life

John Wiley & Sons has accepted Anthony Shafton's book manuscript
about dreams in African-American life, tentatively titled Dream-
Singers All (from a poem by Langston Hughes). It will appear as a
trade book written for a general audience, probably next year.
Shafton is the author of Dream Reader: Contemporary Approaches to
the Understanding of Dreams (SUNY Press, 1995) and several
articles about African-Americans and Dreams. The main research
for Dream-Singers All consisted of over 100 interviews and wide
reading of African-American literature, both of which are freely
quoted. Shafton's approach is cultural, not psychological. He
explores the features of traditional African-American beliefs and
attitudes about dreams, and shows
how the traditional beliefs are expressed in the present. He also
argues that African cultural characteristics and beliefs about
dreams have shaped the African-American traditions. Evidence for
this contention are found chiefly in the prevalence of ancestor
dreams, the belief in predictive dreaming, the openness to
dreamlike experiences in the waking state, and the links between
dreams and spirituality. Each of these topics is covered in from
1 to 4
chapters. Among the special topics covered are "playing the
numbers" from dreams, dreams and deja vu, visions, folk beliefs
surrounding sleep paralysis, and patterns of dream sharing. There
is also a lengthy chapter exploring dreams in which race is an
issue.



>>>>>Celebrate Freud's Interpretation of Dreams [Nightmares,
Fantasies]

WHEN: Monday October 30th, 2000 7:00 pm - the witching hour

WHERE: The National Arts Club: 15 Gramercy Park South, NYC
10003; tel: (212)475-3424; subway: N, R, 6 to 23rd St., then
walk to E. 20th St. & Park Ave. So.

WHAT: A tribute to the 100th anniversary of Sigmund Freud's
Interpretation of Dreams sets the tone for the entertainment and
refreshments, along with establishing the costume theme for
tonight's annual "Hallowe'en Howl" gala. Authentic wines and
spirits from Austria will be served -- accompanied by superb
Viennese food.

ATTIRE: Black tie or a costume suggesting a favorite dream,
nightmare, or fantasy.

EXTRAS: Colorful celebrities, performers, VIPs, and masks to
photograph. Former Estee Lauder model, and National Arts Club
member Paulina Porizkova always attend this Hallowe'en party with
an ensemble of supermodel friends. Malcolm, the black pug once
owned by actress Sylvia Sidney, will pose for pictures wearing a
special
Hallowe'en costume.





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>>>>> Looking for "Unimportant" Dreams

We all love our "important" dreams, and usually neglect the
others. For a research project, Ernest Hartmann would appreciate
receiving one recent dream that seems unimportant, from as many
people as possible. Please send an "unimportant" dream to him at
27 Clark St., Newton MA 02459, or FAX 617-965-6548 or e-mail
EHDream@AOL.com.


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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with
others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread
the word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a
public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or
her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes
to the links page to us.


>>>>> New additions to The Creative Spirit website
www.creativespirit.net
The Creative Spirit website has some good new additions you may
wish to check out. Henry Bolduc's book, Your Creative Voice, the
complete text, is now available for free download. Henry Reed has
added mandalas to his dream quest section, and there is a new
section on "No Boundaries," discussing the implications of the
evolving "non-local" self.


>>>>>Online Dream Commentary
Robert Van de Castle will be offering a dream article and dream
commentary every week at www.thirdage.com


>>>>>Montague Ullman website
http://www.pp.htv.fi/msiivola/monte
Dream titan Montague Ullman offers a full collection of the
articles from the newsletter, DreamAppreciation, 1996 - 2000,
edited by Wendy Pannier. A dozen seminal articles from 1975 to
2000 are also available. Books and reprint information also
available.

Dr Ullman became known to the dream field after his early
career in the practice of neurology, psychiatry and
psychoanalysis, followed by a transition to community psychiatry,
and the directorship of the Department of Psychiatry at the
Maimonides Medical Center. He resigned in 1974 and, since then,
has been engaged in extending dream work into the community. In
1967 he initiated one of the first sleep laboratories in New York
City at Maimonides Medical Center on 1961, a laboratory
devoted to the experimental study of dreams and telepathy.

In recent years Dr. Ullman has been in the forefront of the
movement to stimulate public interest in dreams and to encourage
the development of dream sharing groups. Working with a small
group process that he felt was both safe and effective he has
spent the past three decades leading such groups both here and
abroad, especially in Sweden. There is now an organization in
Sweden, The Dream Group Forum (Dr”mgruppsforum) formed ten years
ago devoted to the training of others in this approach.


>>>>>Kelly Bulkeley Online!
www.kellybulkeley.com
Visit Kelly's new website and find out about his upcoming
classes, publications and other recent dreamwork. Bulkeley was
awarded the 2000 Religion and Science Course Award administered
by the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences, for his
course at Santa Clara University, "Dreaming: Religious and
Scientific Perspectives", and is the author of numerous dream
books, including his newest publication, "Transforming Dreams:
Learning Spiritual Lessons from the Dreams You Never Forget"
(John Wiley & Son, 2000).



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D R E A M C A L E N D A R

June-July 2000

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June 3 in Cupertino, CA
All day workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Fawn at 408.998.1025
or visit www.jeremytaylor.com

June 3-4 in Louisville, KY. "Dreamgrowing: Creating and Healing
with Dream Energy" with Robert Moss. Dance with your creative
source and free your writer/artist/healer-self in this weekend
adventure in a nurturing bluegrass setting. Contact MiShalla
(513) 697-9845, mishallamoon@freewwweb.com.

June 4 in San Francisco, CA
Networking and Dreamsharing, 2p.m.-6p.m., BADG Potluck. Call
Shirlee Martin at (415) 564-2627 for more information.

June 10-11 in Cincinnati, OH. "Dancing with the Bear: Recovering
the Arts of Dream Healing". Weekend workshop with Robert Moss.
Contact MiShalla (513) 697-9845, mishallamoon@freewwweb.com.

June 17 in Danbury, CT area. "Dreaming True: Bringing the Power
of Dreams into Everyday Life". Saturday workshop with Robert
Moss. Call (860) 868-0518 or email robert@mossdreams.com

June 30-July 2 in Danville, CA
San Damiano Retreat Center Workshop with Jeremy Taylor: "Choosing
the Path of Love: Exploring Dreams as a Doorway to Renewed
Spiritual Vision and Non-Violent Action." Call
925.837.9141 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com

Seventeenth Annual Conference of the Association for the Study of
Dreams
Millennial Dreaming
July 4-8, 2000 in Washington, D.C.
For information phone: (925) 258-1822 or email:
asdreams@aol.com. Website: www.ASDreams.org


July 8 in San Rafael, CA
Special All Day Intensive Meeting - for experienced folks.
Organized by an ongoing group from Sebastopol. To see if the
group is open to new people for this one day event, call Kim at
707.829.7510 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com

July 10-14 in Berkeley, CA
Graduate Theological Union Summer Term Class (on Pacific School
of Religion campus) OPEN TO ALL. "Exploring our Spiritual Selves
Through Dream Work."
8:30-12:30 daily. Info and registration at 1-800.999.0528

July 14 in San Francisco, CA. "Dreaming as a Spiritual
Practice" with author Kelly Bulkeley, at John F. Kennedy
University (Friday 7-10, Saturday 9-4).
www.kellybulkeley.com

July 15-16 in Santa Fe, NM. "Dreamgrowing: Creating and Healing
with Dream Energy". Weekend adventure with Robert Moss. Call
Janet O'Neal at (505) 466-4251 or email robert@mossdreams.com.

July 15-16 in Moraga, CA
St. Mary's College School of Education (Grad. Counseling
Program). Class: "Psychology of Dreams." OPEN TO ALL. Contact
Carla at 925.631.4723 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com

July 21-23 in Humboldt, CA
Weekend Workshop in the Redwoods with Jeremy Taylor. Contact
Tracy at 707.839.8689 or visit www.jeremytaylor.com

July 23-28 in Lenox, MA. "The Temple of Dream Healing". 5-day
training in Asklepian dream healing and shamanic soul retrieval
with Robert Moss. Contact Kripalu (800) 741-7353,
www.kripalu.org.

July 27 in San Francisco, CA. "Transforming Dreams" Workshop
with Kelly Bulkeley, at The Learning Annex. For information
contact Kim at 1-888-532-6639. www.kellybulkeley.com

July 31-Aug 1 in Moraga, CA
St Mary's College summer "Come Alive!" program. Class: "Dreams
for Professional Growth and Personal Transformation: A Jungian
Group Approach." OPEN TO ALL. Contact Jackie Hoover at
915.631.4690, or visit www.jeremytaylor.com


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Hello and welcome to the DREAM SECTION of Electric Dreams.

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001 - AngstRidn - Dream: "And a Child Shall Lead Them" by
Nutcracker


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From: AngstRidn
Subject: Dream: "And a Child Shall Lead Them" by Nutcracker
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:20:33 EDT

B. and I were in Austin, TX. We were rummaging through several
shops, two in particular. We had gone into the first shop. I hate
shopping as my feet get sore when I have to stand still for very
long; I need to keep moving. Invariably, I always run circles
around B., waiting for him to"move on". He had wandered off and
I had circled the store (three times), looking for him. I finally
came to a stop in front of the checkout counter and was staring
off into space when the check out girl asked if she could help
me. I said, "no." As I was about to walk away, she mentioned that
she couldn't take care of the incorrect Blockbuster Video billing
on our hotel bill. I told her that was ok, that I would contact
Blockbuster myself when I got home. They had overcharged us by
fifty cents for a rental. I then thought to myself, who goes on
vacation and rents videos? I can't find B. anywhere in the store
and I come to a staircase. This shop has two floors. I debate
going up, as I know there is nothing up there of interest to me
(I have a sense of deja vu), yet I proceed to climb the stairs
anyway. As I had figured, there is nothing here worth looking at.
I walked to the other side of the room and came to the exit.
There are three doors. I choose to exit via the middle one. The
doors are twice as wide as a normal door and one-fourth shorter
and are made of wood and steel. I open it and find that I now
have to jump down 4-5 feet to the corridor. I look to my left and
see that the first door has steps leading down to the corridor.
But, I'm already here and have this door open, so I jump. Now for
some reason, I'm walking around carrying a medium sized container
of stew; pasta/chicken with homemade bread crumbs (crouton size).
I open a door to enter the next shop, only to find it's the
kitchen to a restaurant. There is a counter stopping me from
passing through. One of the chefs invites me to pass, but I have
to crawl beneath the counter to get to the other side. He then
pours a ladle of spaghetti sauce over my stew and shows me to the
front door. He looks a tad upset as I leave. Perhaps he was
expecting me to offer him a taste? Now I've come to the second
shop. I wander through the shop, but B. isn't here either. I
leave the store and am now outside. Two of the female clerks are
outside and I ask them for directions (I don't recall to where).
One girl is tall with sandy blonde hair and the other short with
brown hair. The taller girl points to the east, the shorter girl
to the west. Then the taller girl changes her mind and points
north and says that is the way I should go. I look in the
direction she's pointing and it's a straight uphill climb. Just
thinking about it exhausts me. I start climbing. About one third
of the way up, there are three trees in my path. Their roots are
exposed and I find myself having to step between the roots. But
in a way, that's a good thing, as I am able to get a better
foothold and this invigorates me. Once I get past the trees, the
path turns to dirt. I make it to the top and the path leads me to
the door of a house. As I stand on the threshold, I hear someone
coming and step away, to the right of the door. A young girl
comes out. She knows where I want to go and says she will lead
me. All I have to do is follow her. I guess a lot of people come
to the door instead of staying on the path to the right of the
door. The phrase, "And a child shall lead them," pops into my
mind. The girl is about six feet ahead of me when I call out to
her to stop. Just to the right of her, I spy something. "There's
a rattlesnake. Step away from it, slowly," I call out. The snake
was coiled up, napping. The girl bent down and picked it up. She
had no fear of it, in fact, seemed delighted to find it. I hadn't
realized it before, but she already had another snake wrapped
around her neck. It was a large snake, like a boa constrictor.
She took the two snakes in her hands and flung them to the right
of her, into a pile of more snakes. The area was fenced off, as
if meant to keep the snakes inside. Then we continued on our way,
up the dirt path which was surrounded by trees on either side.
Walking uphill again, all you could see were trees and sky.
(4/26/00)

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001 - Anonymous - Factory
002 - Anonymous - New Dream


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From: Anonymous
Subject: Factory
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:26:50 -0700

Dream Title Factory
Date of Dream 5-26-00

I was in an abandoned factory with a guy friend that I sometimes
fool around with, but we've never had sex. Well in this dream, we
did have sex. We found a room in an abandoned factory and went at
it.

Comments by Dreamer I was just wondering what this meant?? We
want to have sex, but we haven't yet.


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From: Anonymous
Subject: New Dream
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:34:01 -0700

Dream Title White Insect Cocoon/Jeannie
Date of Dream 4/26/00-3 or so in the AM

While brushing my hair,and striking toward my left ear a small
white insect cocoon appeared in my hair brush.

What does this mean? Comments by Dreamer

Permission to Comment yes_share_comments

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001 - Anonymous - New Dream
002 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n293
003 - Anonymous - Sick Animal


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n294.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: New Dream
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:53:00 -0700

Dream Title Wierd Wedding
Date of Dream April 24, 00/11:00 pm thru Morning of
the 25th

My dream all started with my ex boyfriend and I at a school
chorus concert, because we were watching my two best friends in
the concert. My friend Alicia fell off the stage and so Chris (my
ex boyfriend) and I took her to the hospital. And then tthe dream
just went to the next day where my other friend Mary and I were
shopping for bridesmaid dresses, because Chris and I were getting
married in a few days. After we were done shopping Chris and I
went to his house and I was talking to his mom about the wedding
plans. Then Chris and I were in his room and we were talking
about all the things that he has done to hurt me, and he was
apologizing for all the stuff that he had done. We then decided
to walk to Mary's for some reason, but I was barefoot and so
Chris decide to carry me piggy back, we hung out Mary's for a
while and then It was the next day which was our wedding day. I
was all ready for the day except for my hair wasn't done. I was
running around looking for the lady that was supposed to do my
hair and I couldn't find her at all, but the rest of her family
was there because her husband was walking me down the aisle and
her little girl was one of my flower girls and her little boy was
my ring bearer. I was freaking out because my hair was a mess and
it was standing straight up, no matter what I did it wouldn't do
anything but stand straight up, and so then we got married and
that was the end of the dream.

Comments by Dreamer This dream is totally outrageous because I
haven't dream of my ex boyfriend in quite awhile. And what makes
it even more weird is that my ex called the morning after the
dream and he hasn't called me in a while. He was telling me that
he had a dream about me the night before and we started talking
about it and realized we had the exact same dream!
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n294.2 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n293
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:37:57 EDT

factory drm-peace had lain to the right of the of the factory if
you had avoided becoming "abandoned" insect drm-peace had lain
to the right of the brush if you had avoided becoming "appeared"



--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n294.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Sick Animal
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:59:47 -0700

Dream Title Sick Animal
Date of Dream April 30th, 2000 4:45am

I'll make this as short as possible. I had a dream that a
coworker (opposite sex) and myself were at work late at night. We
weren't working; instead, we were investigating some type of
crime going on. We went into the basement and saw an animal that
looked like a camel (it was too fuzzy to make out). The animal
was going through some type of therapy for an unknown disease,
and it looked like it was in pain. Just then we heard footsteps
coming down the stairs and then I WOKE UP.

Comments by Dreamer I have had a dream in the past with this
same coworker.
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001 - Anonymous - Boyfriend??
002 - Anonymous - DIRTY WATER AND DESTRUCTION

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From: Anonymous
Subject: Boyfriend??
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:42:12 -0700

Dream Title Boyfriend??
Date of Dream 4/30/00 Woke up at 3 AM

Two times so far this month I had the same kind of dream. My
boyfriend in some way either cheats on me, or tells me he is in
love with someone else. My boyfriend and I live together and have
been together for 2 1/2 years. We have a perfect relationship. I
don't understand the dream. I KNOW he has never cheated on me but
this dream is so real when I have It. I wake up sweating!!!

Comments by Dreamer Please tell me what this means? Am I being
insecure, is he really going away from me, is are committment to
each other scaring me??? PLEASE HELP!!!
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From: Anonymous
Subject: DIRTY WATER AND DESTRUCTION
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:33:15 -0700

Dream Title DIRTY WATER AND DESTRUCTION
Date of Dream 4/28/00 2am

I have been having a re-occuring dream of excaping a waterfall
with dirty water. Only it is not a waterfall, it is a big wave
of water that falls over a building (man made mountain) What can
this explain? Comments by Dreamer

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001 - Anonymous - 008- Dolly
002 - Anonymous - changes? The_wizard
003 - Anonymous - Living Dead

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From: Anonymous
Subject: 008- Dolly
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 00:10:35 -0700

Dream Title 008- Dolly
Date of Dream April...

I know I've been analyzing this dream to death all day, but it
has been the most vivid dream I've ever had since I was eight
years old and had the dream of flying and driving. But anyways,
here it goes. They say that everyone has two dreams a night. I
know I had two dreams, but I couldn't remember the first one. It
was the second one that got to me anyways. Ok, I am in the school
but it doesn't seem like the school except for where the tech lab
was. I remember that we were all there except Papa and that there
were 3 squares in the middle of the floor somewhat distant from
each other. They were squares of ice. The part from which I
remember the most would have to start off with I think I was in a
room, but there were three bodies on the ground and they were all
bloody. There had been three deaths in the school. Murder, or
suicide I didn't know which one. I remember that people had
removed the bodies and there was a pitiful stain of blood on the
tiles. I! ! t seemed kind of gray and gloomy. What bothered me
was that everyone acted like it wasn't anything big. There was a
lady; I think she was in charge of handling the 'deaths'. I asked
her why they weren't going to shut down that part of the school,
and she replied, it's just a little blood. I specifically
remember a large porcelain sink, three of them, all lined up
together with stainless steel taps. They looked like basins. When
she said that, I knew something was up. I also knew someone was
beside me. He looked like the hall monitor in our school, but he
was a man and a bit taller. I thought I'd said something to him,
but as I type I realized I didn't speak to him at all. He
followed me around giving me the creeps. I pretended to ignore
him, but I knew he was there. We got out of the room and instead
of being at the third floor where we were, we were on the main
level at the back of the school where the staircases that lead to
the adult center were. Where we played truth dare.! ! What was
different was that it was a subway station that looked a bit like
the old train stations from like the thirties. I had this vibe. I
looked at the subway and knew something was going to happen with
it. I looked up and saw a clock. I turned my head and felt the
fear. It was odd. It was wrong. It was real. I think I talked to
that guy, but I don't remember saying anything to him. The subway
was about to leave when a loud alarm went off. My defenses kicked
in, but I was paralyzed. The next thing I remember was seeing
myself sitting in the train, as I was outside watching. The
train, which seemed to be crashing into a wall, crumbling,
crushing into itself actually wasn't. There were screams, so many
bloody screams. At that point, I knew fear. I had never really
feared anything before this, but this was of a different fear.
This was a powerful fear. This fear did not exist in our world.
This was the fear of hell. I was in hell. Whether there was fire
or not, this was hell.! ! I turned around and was now facing the
guy that was with me and not the train. I still heard the
screams. I still felt the fear. The ground started to rumble a
bit. And in my ignorance and stupidity I started to jump up and
scream ' I knew it, I knew it! I knew something like this was
going to happen'. The scariest part was this. I was facing the
guy. He looked at me, blank faced. Lifted me up, both hands at my
waist. I saw someone walk past me and it had a human body. It
turned to face me and had the face of a monster. It did a kind of
roar, and I was shaken. It walked away. I thought he was going to
bring me over to somewhere safe, but I was too fixated on his
eyes. There was something in them, something that shouldn't have
been there. Uncertainty. He had no emotion but a thought. What he
thought is hard to explain but I knew what it meant. I said
something I shouldn't have said. I said something wrong. I said
something that I wasn't meant to know. I was evil; I was to be r!
! id of. I did not belong. What did I do? I was paralyzed again
and allowed him to lift me. Looking into my eyes, and myself
returning the gaze. He threw me into it. Into the hell into the
bottomless pit of screaming, painful, agonizing screams. I still
looked at him as I fell. I felt myself fall. I did not try and
move. I let it be all the while thinking why did he push me? What
did I do? How could he do this to me? What was it I said? I woke
up paralyzed for about half an hour continuing to fall. I felt
the fear. It was the most vivid next to his eyes. His cold blank
eyes. His uncertain look. His flinch as I said it. WHY?!!! What
did I do??!! I've been spending all day analyzing this. I have
nothing more to say. I thought it was important I do this though.
I may find some answers later. I must find the meaning.


Comments by Dreamer PLEASE EMAIL ME ALL COMMENTS.. THANK
YOU
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n296.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: changes? The_wizard
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:47:10 -0700

Dream Title changes? The_wizard
Date of Dream 11:00pm

The dream starts with an ex-girlfriend and I enter the fouior of
an apartment complex I used to live in. We turned to the right,
went to the end of the hall and went into the apartment on the
left. (in real life my apartment was at the opposite side of the
building and on the right, so we should have turned left to get
to where my appart6ment reall was).


When we entered the apartment we were in my new apartment at a
different copmlex, then exited through the front door and went
outside. all the people started harrassing her and I got mad and
defended her. That was pretty much the dream.

Comments by Dreamer Dream was in color, my ex-girlfriend was
co-dependent as was I. My apartment was on the west end of the
hall and you would have been on the right side. We turned to
right (east) and entered the aparytment on the left. The dream
also took place about 11:00pm at night and in the summer time.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n296.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Living Dead
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:03:50 -0700

Dream Title Living Dead by Tobi
Date of Dream May 3,00

Two of my three sisters die, but become living dead. They look
different and have no blood in their bodies. I become a living
dead person next. I am very pale and know that if I stop moving,
my body will become stiff and I will no longer live. I know the
three of us will not be in this state long. One sister
understands and the other does not realize she is dead.(Linda)
Linda ends up in Japan and me and my other sister are there too.
Linda is there for some reason and a young Japanese girl is going
to show her around. I don't understand why we

are in Japan, but confirm we are when I look out the window and
see many Japanese people walking around. My other sister and I
are uneasy about the fact that Linda does not know she's dead and
are looking after her. I feel very uneasy about my state of
being.

Comments by Dreamer I can still remember how it felt to be dead
but alive and it was the strangest feeling and what I believe it
would actually feel like. It was a very upsetting and scary dream
for me.
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001 - Anonymous - my turn
002 - Anonymous - Teeth of all things!!
003 - Anonymous - Hospital


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n297.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: my turn
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:24:05 -0700

Dream Title
Date of Dream 5/3/00

Roughly a little over a year ago, I lost my brother in a plane
crash, I have seen him in my dreams twice since his death. He
never talks, just looks at me & smiles.

In this particular dream I had last night, it was my turn to
die! My family knew it & so did my friends. They were all waiting
for me to arrive at the funeral parlor. I saw myself laying naked
on a gurney with a mortician standing over me prepping me for my
funeral. I was alive though! I watched him fix my makeup, hair, &
nails. My skin started to get cold. I didn't understand why it
was my turn to die. I saw myself praying in the dream, asking God
why I had to go, why it was my turn? I had asked God for a sign
to let me know everything was going to be ok, then I saw my
brother, he just smiled never saying a word. After seeing him, I
felt like it was ok to die, I didn't need to be afraid anymore.


The irony here is, all throughout this dream, I kept waking up.
I remember looking around the room & petting my cat. While I was
awake, I was still dreaming. I would fall back to sleep and the
dream would still continue.

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n297.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Teeth of all things!!
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:08:54 -0700

Dream Title Teeth of all things!!

N. Morgan
Date of Dream Last week of April, 2000

I have had dreams about my teeth falling out and general problems
with my teeth and gums for quite some time, but especially
recently, they have become more vivid and a little frightening at
times. In one particularly vivid dream, I was going about my
normal daily routine, but slowly my gums swelled so much that my
face became distorted and I actually felt pain in the dream. This
sticks out in my mind as I don't usually feel pain in my dreams.
Not all of these sorts of dreams are this extreme- sometimes I
can have just a tooth ache and sometimes my teeth or a tooth will
actually fall out. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?? I have looked in lots of
books etc, but they all say that I need to go to the dentist. I
go once a year and I brush my teeth regularly, so I really don't
feel it could be that. Any help is appreciated. Comments by
Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n297.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Hospital
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:07:57 -0700

Dream Title Hospital Michelle
Date of Dream May 2, 2000

3am

I was walking through a foreign city with friends. Suddenly I had
a sore ankle and, seeing a red medical cross on the side of a
building, entered to see the doctor.

A smiling white-haired man and a young nurse greeted me and
seated me in an old room full of ancient medical equipment. The
nurse tapped my ankle and it started to bleed. She used gauze to
stop the bleeding. I felt a freezing sensation move from my ankle
up my whole body till I couldn't move. The doctor passed me an
ancient shoe box and told me "You really should experience this.
This box contains the remains of a child that died a hundred
years ago. Hold on tight to the box or he'll get angry."

I held onto the box while a nearby cupboard opened and wind
began to encircle the room. The chair lifted off the ground, into
the air, went outside the building, turned me upsidedown and then
landed me back where I started. I still clutched the box, saw the
doctor's smiling face and as I woke up, it took me about five
minutes until the feeling returned to my body and limbs. I felt
terrified. Comments by Dreamer

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001 - Anonymous - WHITE KITTEN
002 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n297

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From: Anonymous
Subject: WHITE KITTEN
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 18:19:12 -0700

Dream Title WHITE KITTEN
Date of Dream 6 may 2000

HELLO THERE, Last night i can recall a dream of my cat, however
it did not look like my cat, this cat had kittens, only one
survived, this kitten was pure white and very weak looking, later
in my dream this young weak kitten beacame healthy and strong.
what does this mean ?


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n298.2 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n297
Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:04:08 EDT

my turn drm-peace had lain to the right of the gurney if you had
avoided becoming "though" teeth drm-peace had lain to the right
of the swollen gums if you had avoided becoming "slowly" hospital
drm-peace had lain to the right of the sore ankle if you had
avoided becoming "suddenly"

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001 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n298

--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n299.1 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n298
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 11:39:29 EDT

until you visit www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ dear cat
dreamer,peace had lain to the right of the cat if you had avoided
becoming "however"

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001 - Anonymous - HellBound
002 - Anonymous - Scary wolf
003 - Anonymous - Everything
004 - Anonymous - Tsunami/Holly
005 - Anonymous - a better person...scarlet wife
006 - Anonymous - Watchtower
007 - Anonymous - hilygoat
008 - Anonymous - Hatching Egg - Dippygirl


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n300.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: HellBound
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 18:17:38 -0700

Dream Title HellBound
Date of Dream 3/5/00 3:30 am

i dreamed i rammed a spear through a persons chest and they bleed
black colored blood that wouldnt stop coming out the person was
still alive and they where hanging off the floor feet not
touching the ground the spear had went through their chest out
their back and into the wall people where rushing to help him and
they just pushed on the wound and he was still alive just staring
past me then i slit my one throat and it ended

Comments by Dreamer what is this about
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Scary wolf
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 18:52:35 -0700

Dream Title Scary wolf
Date of Dream Don't know

Mine wasn't a dream it was a nightmare that I will never forget.
Here's how it goes.... I was driving my dad's old beasty truck
somewhere and I drove by a dead horse; so I pulled off the
highway onto this little road and there was a half wolf half dog
looking at me with glowing green eyes and it looked really evil.
So I kept on driving and there were three sick children laying on
the road dying saying "help us", but there was nothing I could
do.

So I drove back home and told myself I would never touch
another dog again. I layed down on the couch and got up about a
mintute later because my date had arrived at my house to pick my
friend up and I. So I walked into the bathroom to get my friend
and she was messed up. I told her it was time to leave and she
was freaking out and really scaring me. I asked her if she had
touched my dogs and she said yes she petted one of them. And that
is the end of my weird dream.

Comments by Dreamer It really creeps me out and I want to know
what it means.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Everything
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:13:42 -0700

Dream Title Everything
Date of Dream April,28,2000 at 1:00-3:00 am

Ok, i was a softball game sitting in the stands with my friend
Desirae, and also there was my softball team and COdy she is the
coach of my softball team. And my other friend Andrea. And
whenever somebody would hit the ball my whole team would say
Happy Birthday to Andrea. And Andrea would get so mad. So Cody
took me and all of the girls on my softball team and made us sit
in different spots on the bleachers. Then I looked to the side of
me and there were my parents, smiling at me. Then I looked behind
me, and there was a huge soccer field. So me and Desirae went
over to the soccer field. And me and Desirae started tickling me,
and she tickeled me in my armpit, and like a huge chunk fell of
and things were falling out from my arm. So I hurried and ran to
the bathroom and on my way running I ran into this kid I have a
crush on his name is Derek and he was laughing at me, but anyways
I went to the bathroom and skooped all the stuff back into my
arm. Then! ! I went back outside and I found Desirae and she was
with Derek, then all three of us climbed a tree to watch the
soccer game, and the goalie was Zach a kid I like but he moved
away to Montana, and I said hi and shook his hand and everything,
and my old classmates from last year came and said hi to him too.
But I go to a different school this year, so I thought that was
wierd. So what does all this mean????

Comments by Dreamer I liked the dream becasue I got to see my
crushes but I just didn't understand it.
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From: Anonymous
Subject: Tsunami/Holly
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:55:04 -0700

Dream Title Tsunami/Holly
Date of Dream 5/10/00 5am

I was in Hawaii and saw a tidal wave. Saw it build and then huge
waves. Some people wanted to stay in the water and others like
myself wanted to run to higher ground.

Comments by Dreamer I would like to understand and
interpretation of the Tsunami
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n300.5 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: a better person...scarlet wife
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:57:42 -0700

Dream Title a better person...scarlet wife
Date of Dream 05/10/00

i dreamed all night that people kept coming over. Hitting me. I
would ask them why, and they kept saying, to make you a better
person.

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n300.6 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Watchtower
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:06:29 -0700

Dream Title Watchtower Mich.
Date of Dream 17 February 2000

My dream seemed to be set about 100kms from where I grew up - I
know the area well. Sort of set at a national park entry gate but
no fees were collected and the gate itself was set about 20kms
further along the road from where the real gate is actually
situated.. The gate itself was like the classic stone
crennellated castle watchtowers that you see - with little murder
holes more like windows at the bottom and a bigger viewing port
half way up the top. Attached to that was a stone cabin/cottage
where people could just go in and sleep and cook food - like a
house....and it was surrounded by forest on one side and pasture
on the other. Although that did change so that when I went around
to the cabin - it switched from pasture to forest. I drove up and
got out of my car and walked up to the tower. While I was
wandering around trying to work out where to pay my entry fee, a
bunch of young people - in their 20's came and started cooking
and setting u! ! p for the night in the cottage. Funnily though -
although the dream was set here - the surroundings were a
conglomeration of this and another place I spent quite some time
- happy time - at more recently but is clear on the other side of
the state. The Watchtower was run by a father of three children.
The father was no-where to be seen throughout the dream although
I know I loved the children's father deeply and I also loved the
children deeply. I knew the children in the dream - but I
didn't. And it was these three children - A girl about 8, a
little boy and another very quiet little girl - who were running
the tower this particular day. After a while -a conversation,
showing me around the cottage etc. the little girl said okay now
we can go and see daddy. No mention of getting money from the
arrivals was made and I did mention this to the 8 year old and
she looked at me oddly and said that no - we don't take money -
we just make sure people arrive alright. Those ! ! weren't her
exact words - I can't recall them that well. But it was as if
the 8 year old was the important factor in the family....almost
as if it was she who was there to make sure people arrived.

At some stage the dream switched to another town - on the other
side of the State - but yet - everything was still the same. The
placement of things. It was a place where I'd spent a lot of time
with a man and his daughter in real life - both of whom I loved
and still do love, dearly but which is now filled with memories
of times past.

It also seems as if it's part of another two dreams I've had
before....like a chapter in a book although in the other two
there was fear (the first) and confusion and sadness (the
second). This one left me feeling - confused - but peaceful -
happy and waiting for the next big chapter in my life.

In the months since the dream - which I wrote down immediately
upon waking - I've remembered other little details - and am
waiting to dream it again. To me it was a very important dream -
that I have as yet to totally grasp the meaning of.

Comments by Dreamer night of 16th
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can start looking further

--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n300.7 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: hilygoat
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:56:49 -0700

Dream Title hilygoat
Date of Dream may 10, 2000 early morning

I have had this same kind of dream many times. Last nights was
very vivid. My boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years
now, living together for the same ammount. Here is the dream: We
are living in an appartment somewhere, it kind of reminds me of a
hotel. I get off work early one evening, and i come home rite
away. I open the door to find my boyfriend and his ex on the bed
together. He is laying nude under the sheets farther away from me
and she is sitting on the edge of the bed getting dressed. as
soon as she realizes that i was home she hid something under the
mattress. I automaticly run over to find out what it is. Its is 4
condoms, wich are unusally small in this dream. We all three get
into a screaming match and i throw them out. the dream kinda gets
fuzzy here because i had woken up a few times in the process of
the dream. Throught the rest of the dream i remember feeling
hurt, lost, and jealous. My boyfriend and i somewhat stay tog! !
ether in the dream, as i compete over his ex girlfriend. In the
dream her and I interact quite a bit, again competing for his
love. i woke up before i found out who he ended up with, as i do
every time. (this kind of reminds me of the jerry springer show)
I have this dream often, tried to find some kind of explination,
but none to find! please, someone tell me something!

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n300.8 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Hatching Egg - Dippygirl
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:54:15 -0700

Dream Title Hatching Egg - Dippygirl
Date of Dream Wednesday 10th May 2000, 3am - 5:30am

I had a dream I was walking home and I was holding a little blue
speckled egg in my palm to keep it warm. The egg was small enough
to fit in my fist without squashing it. My hand was really warm,
nearly hot. After a while it started to hatch. I was expecting a
bird or maybe a lizard but the egg hatched to reveal a little
puppy with no fur. I tried to get home as fast as possible so I
could feed the pup and by the time I got home it had grown to a
normal size puppy dog. I warmed up milk in the microwave for it
to drink and it was so happy. The colour of the dog was white
with black patches. Comments by Dreamer

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001 - Anonymous - mystery girl
002 - Anonymous - Operation
003 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n300


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n301.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: mystery girl
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 03:10:56 -0700

Dream Title mystery girl Date of dream 1993

i'm coming home, my girlfriend is there waiting on me , although
i dont know her. Shes at my dads house waiting on me.

when i get there i see a man kidnapping her, he takes her down
the hallway into a room.

when i go into the room its like i'm out in the woods.. I'm
chasing them i can hear her screamin help!!

then i go into another room its like i'm out in a battle field
with weapons like guns and stuff.. I finally rescue her after a
long struggle but i never see her face only the back of her head.
Till this day i wonder who she is?

Comments by dreamer i think my dream means that there's a girl
out there whom i've not met yet that i would be willing to to any
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n301.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Operation
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:02:06 -0700

Dream Title Operation

Ereka Schmidt
Date of Dream 5/11/2000

around 3am

I was at school when my friend underwent a serious brain
operation. My math teacher performed the operation on her table
next to mine. She allowed everyone to watch was she pulled out
his tumor very uncoordinatedly.

The operation was over and he seemed to be doing so much better,
but a couple days later he died of an enfection to his brain.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n301.3 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n300
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:35:30 EDT

until you read www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/

hell drm-peace had lain to the right the spear if you didn"t
become rammed scary drm-peace had lain to the right the truck if
you didn't become beasty everythng drm-peace had lain to the
right of the ball if you didn't become hit tsnami drm-peace had
lain to the right of the wave if you didn't become built better
drm-peace had lain to the right of the people if you didn't
become kept watch drm-peace had lain to the right of the gate if
you didn't become sort of hily drm-peace had lain to the right of
the apartment if you didn't become kind of hatching drm-peace had
lain to the right of the egg if you didn't become little

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001 - Anonymous - Strong Snakes
002 - Anonymous - Purple Heart
003 - Anonymous - me & my laptop(?)for lack of a better title.


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n302.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Strong Snakes
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:46:34 -0700


Dream Title Strong Snakes RJBJR
Date of Dream 4:30 a.m. 5/12/00

I'm on my back porch smoking a cigarette. The next thing I know
two snakes about six feet long and rapidly moving around my pool.
They are moving really fast. As they come aroung to the point
they are facing me they stop. They both get up on the ends of
their tales. I mean unrealisticly and they hiss at me. I freak
out and start runing aroung the pool also. Somehow I'm running
very fast also and they can't catch me. Then after sweating
running and wearing myself out I jump in the pool and one of the
snakes follow. This is when I woke up.

Comments by Dreamer I was really scared and when I woke up I
hit the wall next to my bed for no reason!?!
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n302.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Purple Heart
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:54:34 -0700

Dream Title Purple Heart Nikki
Date of Dream 05-11-2000

In my dream there was a black background and then a spotlight
shown down onto a purple heart. Comments by Dreamer

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I found out earlier in the day that I have to have a CAT scan
done on my head. Could it have nything to do with that?


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n302.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: me & my laptop(?)for lack of a better title.
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:29:07 -0700

Dream Title me & my laptop(?)for lack of a better title.
Date of Dream May6 & 10 in the a.m.

I was in a motel room staying with my best friend.(I am female &
he is male)The room is a double.I have brought my laptop with
me.My friend Joseph liked it & wanted one as well.So I bought him
one.I am sitting on the side of the bed facing the door with my
laptop in my lap, my legs are crossed & I am wearing black shorts
& a white button up shirt,the other bed is in front of me and his
laptop is on that bed, still in the box,waiting for him to come
back.Well the door is cracked,and a man that means ALOT to me
walks by with coffee in his hand & happens to glance in & see me
.He backs up & opens the door.He then comes over & sits beside
me.He asks me what I am doing then he says,"I gotta go wake up
the guys" and he leaves.(he is a boss over contractors & they
travel,his company works for the same one I do & we met when he
was contracted to do some work at my place of employment)I have
not seen him in a long time.Also in this dream I remember seeing
the ! ! color yellow a lot.I also woke up looking for my
luggage.It felt so real.This dream has come 2 times now.Please
help me.

Comments by Dreamer I also have another dream that terrifies
me-I am 38 & since I was a small child I have dreamed of my life
ending by my red car going into water & I drown.I feel this is my
fate.Could it be?
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001 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n302
002 - Anonymous - Don't let them get the seventh one; Toons


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n303.1 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n302
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:04:31 EDT

until you read www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ strong drm-peace
had lain to the right of the porch if you had avoided becoming
"known" purple drm-peace had lain to the right of the down if you
had avoided becoming "then" me drm-peace had lain to the right of
the laptop if you had avoided becoming "bought"

--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n303.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Don't let them get the seventh one; Toons
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:34:09 -0700

Dream Title Don't let them get the seventh one; Toons
Date of Dream 1985-1993 then 1995

The dream opens from my perspective, an arial perspevtive,looking
out over dry cracked salt flat with huege flat mesas looming in
the background. A little off in the distance there is a small
cafe table with an opened white umbrella in the center. By the
time I absorb this picture I find myself seated at the table, in
front of me is a single yellow flower in a small clear glass
vase, which my perspective is focused on. As I loose focus on the
flower I see a woman sitting opposite me at the table. She
dressed in a long flowing white dress, sort of lacey, I can't see
her face as she is wearing a white sun hat with the brim drooping
slightly over her face enough to draw a shadow and hide her from
me. She says nothing. All of a sudden I feel panicked. High over
head globulous black forms are fly across the sky. As the forms
move over head I hear in a boomming god-like voice "Don't let
them get the seventh one." All of a sudden a huge casm rips acr!
! oss the flat swollowing the table the flower, the woman, and
myself. It then crush closed, but it feels more like a fist
crushing a round me, and oddl enough it feels like a metal fist,
as I can smell iron and it feels so cold.

The dream is over and I usually wake up panacking in a sweat.
I had this dream almost on a weekly basis from the age of 5 in
1985 til I was 13 in 1993. Then stangley I had it one more time
when I was 15 in 1995. Comments by Dreamer

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-------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n304 --------------

001 - Anonymous - THE SHOOTING
002 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n303
003 - Anonymous - mr kris, chaos

--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n304.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: THE SHOOTING
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 15:40:49 -0700

Dream Title THE SHOOTING Date of Dream

.WELL I dont know where to start....I'm having a reaccuring dream
about people getting shot. The first time it was one younger guy
i didn't know and he got shot in the head right in frontof my
face, the second time it was an a person i knewbut not
necessarily someone i would consider a friend. The following 4
dreams after that were people that were my friends and relatives.
So the people that were getting killed were getting closer and
closer to me. The wierd thing is, is that the gunman was thew
smae guy every single time. I've been having these nightmares for
about 2 months. I've probably had about 12 of these dreams, and
have no clue as to what they mean...and also the fisrt 5 or 6
times people were getting shot directly in the head, the ones
after that were anywhere on the body. please help me interpret
these dreams......Marija M

Comments by Dreamer I don't know if this has anything to do
with this but my husbands brother committede suicide (shot in the
head) well thats what the cops say- but my husband and I believe
otherwise, we think he was killed. this happened 6 years ago. I
knew him better than my husband and i have dreamed of him several
times when I was pregnant with my first son. Could I be having
some kind of psychic dreams? And the gunmen in my dreams is
someone that i have never ever seen in my life. But I know know
every detail of his face, my dreams are really vivid and also in
color. please help me
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n304.2 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n303
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 23:41:00 EDT

until you read www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ seventh drm-
peace had lain to the right of the crack if you had avoided
becoming "dry'

--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n304.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: mr kris, chaos
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 07:23:00 -0700

Dream Title mr kris, chaos
Date of Dream 5/15/00 6:05 am (pdt)

i was walking down the street and i saw my niece lauren in the
crosswalk and some low rider chick was inching up on her
crosswalk space and it made me mad and i asked her if she was ok
and she said yes and then i walked on and passed a mini market i
entered an adjacent office bldg and talked via speaker with a man
who i seemed to have known and he and i had a conversation
wherein we discussed politics. after that the president walked
into the bldg and immediately to the back, i continued my
conversation and then he buzzed me in and when i entered i saw a
woman i knew from show business and she was making large animal
props from crepe paper, flat images decorated in a paper frill
motif like pinatas any way i asked her if she werea production
designer and she said no i asked her who she worked for and she
said a name i knew and i told her i'd worked on a film with her,
we talked and then the guy came in and was verbally sparring with
me and i told him ! ! that i'd met the president before and then
the woman making the props said that she was making them because
the president was there to do three days on "politically
incorrect" so we continued our conversation and bill clinton
comes in and says a few things then goes back to the conference
room. i left the office and walked outside where, in front of the
convenience store i saw my niece chained to the large lowered
impala or big 70's chevy, ugle rusty brown car, she was
handcuffed to the driversside door handle and kicking and tugging
i went to her and told her not to panic then i saw the chola
chick and knocked her to the ground and took the keys from her
purse, she threatened me with gang violence but i told her what
she'd done was wrong and that she should be ashamed of herself, i
freed lauren then offered the chola chick her keys and the cuffs
she grumbled and i walked off,

later i came by and saw that the convenience store next to the
office bldg was being held up by four or five guys with guns and
then i noticed that because the president was next door the feds
and the full police force was there and picking off these amateur
thieves, i cautioned someone to get outta harms way then i went
home, later i went back to see waht'd happened and the store was
almost empty, the neighbors had descended on it like locusts and
were carrying everything away, then i looked nextdoor and the
office was abandoned and people were starting to carry off
furniture and typewriters etc. and i was mad because i thought
that the food was one thing but there was no reason to take all
this office equipment so i tried to run off the looters and i
locked as best i could the doors and windows, upon returning the
next morning i saw six or eight young men, transients camped out
in the office bldg and i told them they had to leave they refused
and began to throw sticks etc. a! ! t me it was at that point
that i realized that my oldest sister and mother lived upstairs
and that these guys weren't leaving- i called the cops but they
never showed and then the guys started to carry off garage tools
etc from the garage attached and one guy found a bug sprayer he
sprayed me and i lunged for it and wrested controll from him and
started to spray him and the others but i never intended for them
to be in pain it ws just that i was trying to save myself and so
i scratched some of the white foam away on the can but i couldnt
read the poison instructions then i woke up. Comments by Dreamer

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-------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n305 --------------

001 - Anonymous - Stolen car
002 - Anonymous - Babies by KK
003 - Anonymous - A scary night, chic101
004 - Anonymous - Tristen
005 - Anonymous - Beam Me Up
006 - Anonymous - "blue house"
007 - Anonymous - cooking miss e
008 - Anonymous - nightmare
009 - Anonymous - Dark Figure


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Stolen car
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:54:27 -0700

Title Stolen car
Date of Dream 05/15/2000

I left my car running in my garage- the current parking area
where I live. I went in my apartment to get something and when I
came out my car was gone, stolen. Then a black cat started to
attack me, by pulling on my white shirt.

Comments by Dreamer I looked up the meaning of being attacked
by a blck cat and it said that I might get robbed. Yet my car
clearly stated that I was robbed. I would like some input from
anyone else
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Babies by KK
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:51:07 -0700

Babies by KK
Date of Dream 5-14-00 and 5-15-00

Two nights in a row I had dreams about babies. The first dream
was that I was pregnant and gaining weight very rapidly. I was
very excited to have the baby. Then next night I ahd a dream that
I was baby sitting for the cutest infant that I had ever seen. I
kept running into this same family in my dream and they kept
asking me to return and baby sit for them.

Comments by Dreamer This is weird because I am and 18 year old
college female. I am not married nor do I have a boyfriend, but I
cannot stop thinking about having a baby after having these
dreams.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: A scary night, chic101
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:53:10 -0700

Title A scary night, chic101
Date of Dream 5-12-00

I had a dream that I was at my sorority house, but it didn't lok
like the real sorority house that I am in. It was a beautiful
mansion with marble floors and it was very bright. There were
lots of people there partying, which is odd because you are not
allowed to party in our sorority house. I partied like everyone
else, then some people came and began to shoot at us. The boy
that I like and went out with a few times ended up getting shot
in the back. I covered his wound and called a cab to take us to
the hospital. He was very close to death, but I continued to
assure him that he would be okay and he stayed alive. The cab
turned out to be a maroon minivan, much like the one my father
owned when I was younger. We went to the hospital and I told my
friend to give me his wallet so that I could have all his
information when we checked in. That is when I woke up. Comments
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.4 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Tristen
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:10:40 -0700

Dream Title Tristen

by trinity Date of Dream

i was in the middl eof a dream, where i was sitting down behind a
desk, and a line of people were standing in front of me, i wasnt
sure why, or what they were all there for, but i was focused on
everyones eyes, making random comments in my mind about whos were
weird and whos were pretty. As i was ding that i noticed this
realy good looking guy at the back of the line. He had the most
amazingly beautiful eyes, and face, he was like better looking
then a super model. but in my mind i kept saying to my self where
did he come from he was nt here before. then he walks up to me
and says "come on lets go" so i fallow him not being able to find
any words to say. Then i wake up, and im certain i was contious,
i stared at my ceiling thinking about that overly hansom guy,
when suddenly i felt as if i were being watched, and i glanced at
my closet, and there he was as good looking as ever standing in
front of my closet staring back at me. he began to walk tword ! !
me and for some reason i found it hard to keep my eyes open and
as i slipped back to sleep i could feel his fingers softly
touching my face, and then i slipped completely back into sleep
mode. It was so completely real. it was so wierd. Comments by
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.5 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Beam Me Up
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:09:17 -0700

Dream Title Beam Me Up/Gumpette
Date of Dream May 14, 2000 sometime during the night

A business was undergoing new management & it seems spirits
inhabiting the establishment didn't like that idea. New people
were being zapped into thin air. When the takeover was
unsuccessfull, people started reappearing again. The only one I
remember with any clarity appeared to be a bus driver....seemed
to be an older man in a uniform & my first impression was that
he's a bus driver, although there were no distinct markings or
patches. Comments by Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.6 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: "blue house"
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:12:15 -0700

Dream Title "blue house" by judeablue
Date of Dream 5/14/00 630 am

the dream began in a huge country house, which I had bought.
there was a guy that had lived down the way from me, and we
eventually fell in love--he had a little kid, about three or
four, and somehow the child died...I was heartbroken, b/c he had
to leave. I was left alone in this huge blue house, searching for
the baby's father, crying his name out, feeling forlorn about how
he could have been anywhere but with me.

Comments by Dreamer I would really like some kind of idea as to
what the rooms mean...there were no specifics to the rooms, each
were empty and had hardwood floors. also, dream took place in the
late summer. lots o' trees.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.7 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: cooking miss e
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:31:52 -0700

Dream Title cooking miss e
Date of Dream 15/05/00 between 6-8am

I was happily cooking my infamous honey garlic tofu for a man
that I'm interested in. He was not physically in my dream but I
could sense his presence and hear his voice. Comments by Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.8 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: nightmare
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:05:11 -0700

Dream Title nightmare
Date of Dream jan 1996

reoccuring in house that i used to live in same dream in bed
looking at window and a being of darkness bein near me i have
complete paralysis and can do nothing still knowing that this is
a dream

Comments by Dreamer need to know how i can defeat this been to
a sleep clinic they tried to help with no success
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n305.9 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Dark Figure
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:05:38 -0700

Dream Title Dark Figure Date of Dream

i was lying in bed asleep when i supposedly woke up with this
wierd feeling all throughout my body, it was kind of a tingly
feeling like when your leg falls asleep. Well anyway, i try
opening my eyes but my lids feel so heavy and i have trouble
opening them, whike im doing that i hear a females voice, say
"why are you awake?" it wasnt an anoyed voice or anyhting. It was
just a question. I didnt answer, i got my eyes open to see who it
was, and when i did, i was lying on my back so my eyes were tword
the ceiling, and floating above me was this large dark mass like
4 inches from my face, with like blue edges around it. I freaked
out of course, im not sure why, I htink it was because of the
suddenly heavy limited use of my limbs to move. I began to swing
attempt to lift my arms and swing at whatever it was, and looked
around my room as i did and noticed it was all deformed and wierd
looking, and i began calling out for my dog, and suddenly found
that my r! ! oom stopped moving, my armes werent heavy and the
dark mass was gone.

Comments by Dreamer The wierd thing about htis dream is that
the voice i heard, was the same voice i had heard the day before,
that had no one attached to it, it had asked me why i was
bleeding after i had accedently cut my self on the stall door,
and no one else was in the bathroom with me, but i answered
anyway, and said because i cut my self, after that i had realized
that there was no one else in there with me, and i thought i was
going insane. And the third time after the two other times i told
it "f" off and i havnt heard anything sense.
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001 - Anonymous - Cut Feet
002 - Anonymous - triplets
003 - Anonymous - no baby
004 - Heratheta - Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n305

--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n306.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Cut Feet
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:50:10 -0700

Dream Title Cut Feet - Bek
Date of Dream 5/14/00

I keep having a recurring dream in which the bottom of my feet
will end up getting cut or have pieces of broken glass embedded
in them. The context of the dreams changes, but the end result is
that my feet are bleeding. Often in the dream I will also find
that my ankles have been cut or simply pull the glass out of my
feet. The dream usually isn't unpleasant but it has been more
disturbing lately. It usually repeats every couple of months.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n306.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: triplets
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:16:18 -0700

Dream Title triplets
Date of Dream 05/03/00

7 a.m.

A girl I used to go to school with - but was not really friends
with, just acquaintances, has triplets. Because they are so tiny
she has to have organ transplants when they turn 6 weeks old but
they can only do one at a time. I remember her telling me that
that babies weigh 36 pounds at 6 weeks and one is ready for
surgery. It has it's surgery and she asks me to take it home for
her. I agree and take the baby. I get outside and realize I can't
find my car. So I start walking. Then I realize it's cold. The
baby is getting cold and I have nothing to wrap it in so I go by
this grocery store that has a bin at the front with a bunch of
clothes in it for the poor. I take a terry cloth robe and wrap it
around the baby and go on my way. I keep looking at the baby.
Sometimes it is a regular 8 to 10 pound baby. Sometimes it is
about the size of a pop bottle and sometimes it is in a test tube
with ice at the top. When I see it in the test tube I tap ! ! at
the ice on top to break it up and then put it back in the robe. I
find myself in a school with the baby and talk to some of the
students - but don't remember what I talk to them about. I find
my car keys in my pocket and keep walking looking for my car. I
leave the school and walk down a deserted looking road. My car is
parked in a parking lot and I walk towards it. Then I wake up.

Comments by Dreamer I remember most of the dream so vividly
that is why is perplexes me so much. Please help.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n306.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: no baby
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:27:54 -0700

Dream Title no baby
Date of Dream 05/17-00

i was at the hospital about to have a baby and the guy i like was
there and 2 of my friends (girls) were there. and when i went to
push there was nothing there. and my friend that was delivering
the baby was telling me that thre was no baby in side of me and
then i woke up and i felt like i did something bad and my stomach
and back hurt Comments by Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n306.4 ---------------
From: Heratheta
Subject: Re: Digest dream-flow.v001.n305
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 01:59:37 EDT

until you read www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ stolen drm-peace
had lain to the right of the garage if you had avoided becoming
"left" babies drm-peace had lain to the right of the dream's
location if you had avoided becoming "very" scary drm-peace had
lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming "but"
tristen drm-peace had lain to the right of the desk if you had
avoided becoming an uncertainty beam drm-peace had lain to the
right of the establishment if you had avoided becoming"seems"
blue drm-peace had lain to the right of the house if you had
avoided becoming 'huge" cooking drm-peace had lain to the right
of the cooking ifyou had avoided becoming happiness nightmare
drm-peace had lai to the right of the deing if you had avoided
becoming "Near" dark drm-peace had lain to the right of the
dream's location if you had avoided becoming "weird"

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001 - Anonymous - Hell: a dream by jezebel
002 - Anonymous - "Choose your weapon" by Sabrina
003 - Anonymous - Mirror
004 - Anonymous - being in a tornado
005 - AngstRidn - Dream: The Visit


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n307.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Hell: a dream by jezebel
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 10:59:44 -0700

Dream Title Hell: a dream by jezebel
Date of Dream 5/19/00

I was walking through the mall with two of my brothers. We were
going to a certain store and my brother started to go down the
escalator but I said no, the store is right there. I pointed, but
the store wasn't, it was downstairs. So we went downstairs and it
was gray and kind of dark. I looked behind us and all the lights
were off and it was black. People were running to a shelter in
the mall so we followed. I thought it was a fire drill. When we
got to the shelter, it looked like some kind of spaceship, I
learned it actually was a fire. One of my brothers went on the
elevator and disappeared. My other brother also just disappeared
when I started looking around the room. All of a sudden my friend
appeared and we started talking and walking around the room. Then
I was told the worl was ending. Then everyone and everything
disappeared. Jesus appeared and said: "You are going to burn in
Hell!" And then I woke up.

Comments by Dreamer It scared me because I thought I was a good
catholic girl and I don't want to burn in Hell. Is it a sign that
I need to change my ways?
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n307.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: "Choose your weapon" by Sabrina
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:42:39 -0700

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Dream Title "Choose your weapon" by Sabrina
Date of Dream May 18, 200 6:00 am

Just recently I had a very strange dream. In it I was living in a
trailer park with a man in his thirties who was my dad. He had
tattoos and biker clothes on. Anyways, he hated me and kept me
tied to my bed in my room and didn't feed me a lot. One day I
escaped and he didn't know. I went straight to a television
station and told a reporter about my ordeal. She agreed to get my
"father" put in jail, but first I would have to go back and make
him hurt me so that the reporter could catch it on tape. I went
back that night and he realized that I had escaped and he was
REALLY mad!! I had him trapped behind a door, but he was really
strong and got out and started chasing me. He had me from the
back and started cutting me with a pizza cutter and it hurt a
lot. I freed a hand and started hitting him back but when I
looked at what I was using to hurt him, I saw that I had a
spatula in my hand. Then I woke up.

Comments by Dreamer i don't understand this dream, but when I
told my roommate about it she said that she also had a dream a
while ago where she only had a spatula for her defense. I'm not
sure what this has to do with my life. My grandpa has cancer, I'm
in my second year of university, and this is my first year living
without my parents (if that has anything to do with it) Please
help me. This has been driving me insane
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n307.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Mirror
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 01:13:24 -0700

Dream Title Mirror
Date of Dream 4/2000

In my dream I had a baby. The next important scene was holding
the baby and looking into the mirror seeing myself holding my
baby. I remember thinking "this is nice" Comments by Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n307.4 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: being in a tornado
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 01:14:10 -0700

Dream Title tordado by adobegirl
Date of Dream 4am 4-18-00

I have had re-occuring dreams of being in a tornado. I have never
actually been in a tornado. I always see one off in the distance,
then I look around and there are many tornadoes, but usually one
very large one. I am some-what scared, but I am usually
surrounded by friends and family and try to get everyone to the
basement of the house. I also tell them to open the windows, and
cover up with blankets so that flying debris does not hurt them.
I can feel the wind come and we always make it through o.k. In
the latest one the ending was different, my mom told us all
(neice, grandparents, sisters, dad and I ) to get in the car and
we would go look at the damage. We were at my grandparents house
and they live by lake michigan. We went along the lakeshore and I
saw a submarine that had been sucked out of the lake by the
tornado and was in the front yard of a big house. I thought it
was very strange. I remember the submarine was a blue/grey color,
an! ! d the blankets we covered up with were red with white
flowers.

Comments by Dreamer Just wondering about the tornadoes and also
the submarine
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n307.5 ---------------
From: AngstRidn
Subject: Dream: The Visit
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:58:54 EDT

Dream: "The Visit" by Nutcracker

A friend (Kristina Wager - Felicia/GH) and I are visiting our
mutual friend JD. He has a house out in the country; a very
peaceful setting. I don't know what country or city the house is
located in. His house has three bedrooms and is contemporary in
style. It reminds me a lot of Ikea (the furniture). Felicia is in
her room, working (writing) on something. JD is elsewhere in the
house. I'm outside, sitting in the car (small, silver, 4 doors)
which is parked at the edge of his property, on the dirt road
that runs in front of it. The car has a bunch of our belongings
in it, as if we were going to take a road trip. I'm afraid to
leave the car because, what if someone comes along and steals our
stuff out of it? I went back into the house and find they're
still busy doing whatever, not ready to leave yet. I then went
back to the car and am sitting in the back seat when I turn to
look out the rear window. I see a plane coming in for a landing.
It's one of those huge jumbo airbuses (like the kind they take
overseas), mostly red in color. The plane is 500 feet or less off
the ground. JD's house sits to the north and the plane is headed
west. I believe the airport is to the south. As I watch the
plane coming towards me (west, the direction the car is pointed),
I see it descending, then the pilot pulls up and then it comes
down and then up again, like a rollercoaster ride, until it
finally crashes in the field of a farm house across the road
(behind me - east). I jumped out of the car, unable to believe my
eyes. I had watched it fall, yet hoped there would somehow be no
crash. As the plane disappeared from my view behind some rolling
hills, the wait until it hit the ground seemed interminable. It's
truly like they say, it's as if you're watching it in slow
motion. Then finally, smoke and fire ascend toward the sky. I'm
sorry the plane crashed, but I'm also sorry for the owner of the
farmhouse. His property is so breathtakingly beautiful. He's got
one of those old French farmhouses in a truly idyllic setting. JD
came running out of the house. I ran towards him, past a pile of
brush that had recently been cut down and I yelled, "a plane just
crashed." Matter-of-factly, he said, "I know. Angels did it." At
first his statement seemed shocking, but then it began to make
sense to me. Angels work for God and do his bidding. Then again,
there are also'bad' angels who work for the other side. I ran
into the house. Felcia was now sitting on her bed, talking on the
phone. I wanted to call the TV stations to tell them what
happened, plus, I never have a camera when I need one. I cried to
her, "People are dead. A plane just went down." She continued
talking, like it was an everyday occurrence. (5/20/00)
Angels/F&F/Disaster #

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001 - LdyLilith3 - REMOVE
002 - Anonymous - exboyfriend.e
003 - Anonymous - Josie's purple light
004 - Anonymous - New Dream
005 - Anonymous - Untitled-Rosebud


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n308.1 ---------------
From: LdyLilith3
Subject: REMOVE
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:15:05 EDT



--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n308.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: exboyfriend.e
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:54:25 -0700

Dream Title exboyfriend.e
Date of Dream Saturday May 21 2000

I had a dream last night that i made love to my ex boyfriend.I
was seeing him for two years but it has been about three years
since we last went out.I hadnt seen him in a long time and was
saying this to a friend when i saw him the next morning and i
have seen him two or three times since.Does this mean anything??
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n308.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Josie's purple light
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:00:15 -0700

Dream Title Josie's purple light
Date of Dream april 30th around 8:00am

I dreamed of a purple triangular light........it was very bright
I remember when I saw this light I thought it meant
danger........I keep seeing this light but each time I see it now
the but the middle is taking on a golden color......the light is
held by a mystic of somekind.....any idea's what this means
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n308.4 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: New Dream
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 07:23:30 -0700

Dream Title Falling fire
Date of Dream It is a recurring dream.

I'm on a roof surrounded by friend who have aged. I havent. As we
talk i'm moving backwards, they advance. I nerly fall, but get my
balance back then my friend David says "It's too late for that"
and pushes me.

Comments by Dreamer Help me. Some times we are on fire in the
dream.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n308.5 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Untitled-Rosebud
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:24:46 -0700

Dream Title Untitled-Rosebud
Date of Dream 5-21-00

In this dream I am trying to destroy a phone, I am hammering it
to pieces, I am in strange surroundings and feeling very
threatened, there are people I don't know who keep grabbing the
phone and putting it back together. My sense is that I am trying
to stop or report something but I don't know what it is. Suddenly
I cannot get away and there is a person who looks exactly like
me, the people have said I am responible for something I didn't
do and I am taken away, but I can not prove who I am because no
one believes me.


Ihis is a dream I have had once before.

Comments by Dreamer This dream terrifies me because of the
other "me" and what I might have been blamed for that I didn't
do.
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-------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n309 --------------

001 - Greengarg - unsubscribe
002 - Anonymous - WITCHES AND TIGERS AND THE ACCEPTING HOUSE


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n309.1 ---------------
From: Greengarg
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:08:40 EDT

Please unsubscribe me from your list.


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n309.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: WITCHES AND TIGERS AND THE ACCEPTING HOUSE
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:05:21 -0700

Dream Title WITCHES AND TIGERS AND THE ACCEPTING HOUSE

Mermaid
Date of Dream 5am Tuesday 23 May 2000


Went into a dark "hidden shop" of Witches supplies. Some of them
found me some Wolf's Bane. A number of women walked in and
changed from "ordinary attire" into full on Goth. They were
trying to see if I would where a pentacle around my neck, or get
a tattoo of some sort, but I was not willing to do so.

A little boy with me had a tiny cat, which escaped from his
sight, so a group of us, - two witches fully made up, a man, and
some children, went off in search of this tiny cat. At one point
I could see and feel it moving in a plastic tube filled with
liquid, being propelled downwards. It was out of my reach. We all
waited at the end of this tube, in an old house bereft of
furniture. The man went into another room ahead of us.

The tiny cat had become a huge tiger, that somehow thought the
man was a danger to the little boy with the rest of the group.

We heard a scream and went around the corner. The tiger had
something gooey on its claws. It took a moment to realise that it
was licking unravelled innards/bowel of the man. The tiger moved
into another darkened room. All over the floor were lots of raw
sausages, which presumably had once been this man.


Later, not knowing what to do about the man and the tiger, we
all tried to escape by going to our secluded house in the woods
that was a secret between a small group of us. Inside the house,
there was a sense of warmth and accepting love.

Somebody set up a small radio station in the kitchen near the
door; the rest of us tried to keep quiet as another of our
friends who was a gay man from another country,sang beautifully
into the microphone. We were in another room looking at the
yellow pages to decide what to have to eat, or to go and do
later.

It was only when one of the visitors had to leave that we went
outside and saw that the house looked rickety from the outside,
but it was high up, and required stairs, on one side to get down
to a road, or a hill on the other side, which we had yet to
explore.


Comments by Dreamer the tiger was very orange. Despite the
unlying anxiety, there seemed lots of "support"
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-------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n310 --------------

001 - Anonymous - bed presence
002 - Anonymous - Waters
003 - Anonymous - Dont Move


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n310.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: bed presence
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 05:43:11 -0700

Dream Title bed presence by,lil' dizz

Date of Dream about 4/27-5/11 at about 5or 6 in the morning
before I wake up

I've drempt for about two weeks straight about me and my
boyfriend making love. One of my dreams was at my house. Well, I
guess at my own house in the future. The dream just popped up all
of a sudden, because I was dreaming of something else. He just
rushed me with passion and I went with it with ease, like I
wasn't scared to do it, but wanted to instead. The thing is all
my dreams are different places, like his room now, because he
lives with his parents or just different. All my dreams of love
making with him never got to the point of intercourse. The last
time I drempt it, it got close. Sex is also not mentioned in our
relationship, so I couldn't be dreaming about the day I spent
with him. We also never had sex before. We've been in this
relationship for 2 months, but we dated 2 years ago and broke up
a month later because he moved to California. I also had a couple
of dreams where he just left me by myself without saying
anything. Sometimes he see! ! ms like he cares about me and then
for a while he seems like he doesn't care at all. He drives me
home and stuff though and I hope that he is the right one to stay
with.

Comments by Dreamer Sometimes I wake up before the dream can go
further.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n310.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Waters
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:29:34 -0700

Dream Title Waters- Rob D.
Date of Dream 5-24-00 1:30AM

For about 2 months I keep dreaming almost every day of me being
in water either swimming peacefully or in a difficult situation
such as my boat overturning.

In addition, sometimes the water is clear & beautiful like
Cancun but other times the water is dark & dreary. But the common
denominator is "Waters". Through the years I learned to
understand the meaning of my dreams. But this time why this type
of dream keep occurring every day almost and for such a long
time.

Am I going to discover that I have a very serious desease? or Am
I going to be involved in a legal dispute of some sort ?

Please help me ASAP

Thanks

Rob D. Comments by Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n310.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Dont Move
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 22:41:16 -0700

Dream Title Dont Move... -Malka
Date of Dream 4/24/2000

There was this guy who i liked very much in high school named
mike. i was in 9th grade he was in 12th. theres another girl in
my school named heather, she was a real stuck up snob. one day
she was walking along with a rope tied around her nech which she
didnt seem to notice. she walked into the coridor from the
stairwell and all of a sudden, the rope pulls tight and her head
pops off. Mike, the guy i like, comes walking up the stairs with
a rope around his neck. he doesn't seem to notice it either. i
don't want his head poping off so i run to him and i tell him not
to move otherwise his head will pop off. even though it doesn't
sound too realistic, he believes me and hugs me and thanks me for
saving his life. while i am in his arms, i feel very light-headed
and i feel like my arms and legs feel like bowling balls. and i
slide down his body while still holding on in fear of losing him.
i look at his white shirt and i read "lake isle country club"
where ! ! he works as a lifeguard in the summer. i don't actually
let go but at the end if my dream, there i am sitting on the
floor facing outward, holding onto his leg and i see my mom just
standing there in front of the stairwell screaming at me to get
up. then i notice, that that part wasnt a dream, that was my mom
actually screaming at me to wake up. Comments by Dreamer

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-------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n311 --------------

001 - Anonymous - Weird
002 - Anonymous - Little Rodent
003 - Anonymous - cancer
004 - Anonymous - Three Nightmares


--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n311.1 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Weird
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:39:11 -0700

Dream Title Weird - Kalliops
Date of Dream Monday, 22nd may, 2000

I was in the car with a girlfriend and we were involved in an
accident in which the car rolled. we were in the Sydney airport
tunnel. She walked out fine but when i emerged my arm was in a
lot of pain (my left arm). All of the sudden her boyfriend
appeared and felt my arm, he said it was broken in two places and
we had to get to the hospital. In a flash we were there and i was
in the waiting room still holding my arm. I was then transferred
to a bed and as the doctor applied the first strip of plaster the
coldness woke me up. When I woke up I realised I had been
sleeping on my left shoulder and was holding my left arm up as it
was in pain and I was olding it up the exact way I was in my
dream Comments by Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n311.2 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Little Rodent
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 21:11:55 -0700

Dream Title Little Rodent -tracy
Date of Dream 5-24/night

The dream is always different, but there is a hamster in it every
time. I carry this hamster in an old metal lunchbox with me to
school. I spend most of my time paying attention to the little
guy and when I have to run out to do something I place him back
in the box. He is a brown little tiny hamster that fits in the
palm of my hand. He scampers around and likes to play. When the
dream ends he is usually in my hand or in the lunch box.

Comments by Dreamer I really don't understand this dream. I
have been having dreams about this hamster for the past couple of
nights.
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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n311.3 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: cancer
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:16:31 -0700

Dream Title cancer Date of Dream

i found out i have uterine cancer, then i wake up. Comments by
Dreamer

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--------------- DREAM dream-flow.v001.n311.4 ---------------
From: Anonymous
Subject: Three Nightmares
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:06:47 -0700

Dream Title Three Nightmares
Date of Dream May 26,2000 All Night

These all occured in the same night. The first had to do with my
boyfriend of three years (who I was apart from for the last few
months, but back together with now), coming to me and saying that
he had gotten another girl pregnant. I hate babies and the
thought of pregnancy altogether, so this really disturbed me, and
I was screaming at the top of my lungs in the dream, saying 'how
could you do this' and 'I hate you' to him. In the second dream,
I was in a dirt lot, arranging stones for a landscape or
something. I went into a garage to get a spade, and when I looked
on the top of a cabinet for it, my beloved Labrador Retreiver was
up there, cold, stiff, and dead. In the third dream, I was in a
house with a young boy, probably about 6 or 7 years. I was
dusting the mantle and talking with him, when a look of horror
came over his face. He was looking towards the hall, and there
was a woman, holding a piece of paper against the wall with one
hand, and witing on it with the other. He said 'but my mommy's
been dead for over a year'. I said 'let's get out of here', and
we ran out of the house into a wheat field next door. Then my
alarm went off.

Comments by Dreamer Please tell me if I am freaking out :( MJO-
- California
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