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Title: Electric Dreams, Volume 3 number 4 

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Electric Dreams 

 

Volume 3 Issue #4 

 

25 May 1996 

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-- Send Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: 

Bob Krumhansl <bobk829887@aol.com> 

-- Send Dream Questions and Concerns to 

Victoria Quinton <mermaid@daemon.apana.org.au> 

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Peggy Coats <pcoats@cruzio.com> 

-- Send Requests for Dream Groups to: 

Chris Hicks <shadow45@netonecom.net> 

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Richard Wilkerson: <rcwilk@aol.com> 

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CONTENTS: 

Editor's Notes 

Question Airing Forum - Victoria Quinton 

Poetry: Dreamwatching I & II -Fanny Jacobson 

Column: Dream Reaper - Journaling - by Nutcracker 

JAYNE GACKENBACH - Interview by Victoria Quinton 

DreamLine -Special Interview: Jesse Reklaw - by 

Christopher Hicks 

Comments From Jung - Review by Sue b. 

Dolphins, Whales, and Dreamtime - by Trisha Lamb 

Feuerstein 

Article: The Lucid Dreamer's Manual 

Part II by Lee Holmes 

Global Dreaming News - Peggy Coats 

-ADVANCED INTENSIVE: THE ANALYTICAL PSYCHOLOGY OF DREAMS 

-DREAM WAVE BREAKS ON THE WEB 

-DREAM WEB SITE UPDATES 

-DREAMS AND THE TENSION OF OPPOSITES 

-CONSCIOUS DREAMING, A SPIRITUAL PATH 

-FUTURE OF DREAMING ONLINE - ASD BULLETIN BOARD TALK 

-ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF DREAMS CONFERENCE XII, 

BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA, JULY 1996 

-NEW FINDINGS ON THE MEANING AND CLINICAL USE OF DREAMS 

-DREAMS, CREATIVITY AND THE ARTS - ASD XIII 

-DREAMING IN CYBERSPACE, SHAMANISM, AIDS, O.J. AND MORE 

AT THIS -YEAR'S ASD CONFERENCE IN JULY ! 

-CONTINUING EDUCATION (CU) CREDITS AT ASD XIII 

-ONLINE DREAM COURSE(s) IN JUNE 

-DREAM TALK RADIO SHOW 

-COMMUNAL MAGIC: A GROUP DREAMING PROJECT 

-ELECTRIC DREAMS BULLETIN BOARD 

-CONTENT ANALYSIS OF DREAMS - NEW SAT Program 

SPECIAL SECTION: 

Dream Wheel: An Inside Look - by Chris Hicks and Richard 

Wilkerson 

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Editors Notes 

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Welcome to all new and continuing subscribers! We have 

a different sort of issue for you this month since Bob, 

our Dream Editor is on vacation. Dream and Comments will 

return next month, so if you have sent in dreams, you 

will see them published in the June issue. 

This issue we are publishing the transcripts of a 

COMPLETE dream group. We felt that it would be a model 

for other groups and provide a peek into a part of our 

community activities that usually go unnoticed by causal 

Electric Dreams readers. Be sure to read over the 

special section that Chris Hicks and I have prepared for 

you in "Dream Wheel , A look Inside" This article will 

be mirrored on the Web 

at http://www.best.com/~rcwilk/asd-13/2lb12_2.htm 

If you would like to JOIN the *next* dream wheel group - 

its starting this week! Quick -> send a note to Chris and 

tell him you want to be in the next group - He will send 

you instructions. shadow45@netonecom.net 

Another "Big" Electric Dreams event. We have several 

new volunteers who are lending us their skills and 

expertise to enrich, expand and deepen your experience of 

Dream Sharing in Cyberspace. As you may have noticed at 

the beginning of this issue their addresses, titles and 

names are available. They will be introducing themselves 

to you in various ways, but no need to wait -> if you 

have ideas or would like to participate in their 

programs, (Such as book reviews, Cyberspace dreaming 

news gathering, dream group mediators, submitting or 

collecting dream art, illustrating Electric Dreams, 

moderating discussions on dreaming, discussing 

techniques, etc) please contact them at the e-mail 

addresses provided. 

A *big* and *warm* Welcome to : 

Questions & Answers Editor: 

Victoria Quinton <mermaid@daemon.apana.org.au> 

News and Calendar Events Director: 

Peggy Coats <pcoats@cruzio.com> 

Education Director: 

Chris Hicks <shadow45@netonecom.net> 

 

Two more volunteers not mentioned above but also part of 

the active staff that have joined us this month and who 

will also be deeply enriching our dream experience: 

Nutcracker, who will have a special column on dream 

Journaling and build a model for dream journals on the ED 

Web site. Find out all about this in the Dream Reaper 

column. 

Also: 

Jesse Reklaw, who will be working with the new Covers 

of Electric Dreams that will soon be available to down 

load and frame, or cover your favorite issues of Electric 

Dreams. Watch the Electric Dreams Web page for details! 

Who is Jesse Reklaw? Well, among the many other thing, 

Jesse publishes _Concave Up_, where your dreams are 

illustrated in comic format. You will be delighted by 

the interview that our new Education Director, Chris 

Hicks did with Jesse and sent in for us this issue. 

Hey - guess what Matthew Parry has added to our WEB 

SITE? Well, I can't tell you *all* the new changes, but 

we now have a Bulletin Board for communicating, sharing 

dreams and exchanging ideas. We still feel that ongoing 

discussions can best be held on Bulletin Board like the 

alt.dreams usenet newsgroups and the ASD Bulletin Board. 

Posting dreams - in general, there is DreamLink and 

places like Angie's Dream Chat (See NEWS) - if posted on 

our board, we are likely to publish them or cycle them 

through the core mail list. But we would like to have a 

spot to meet and exhange information. If you have 

REGIONAL dream groups or meetings, for example, you might 

want to use the board for announcements. Be sure to 

include your area of the world or country in the post 

title "England, Avebury dream meetings" or "Tuesday 

Nights in Portland, Oregon". 

Also, if you are doing research, you may want to leave a 

post on this board. "Leave dolphin Dreams here" or 

"looking for Flying Dreams". More as this develops.. 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~mettw/edreams/home.html 

Select "Bulletin Board" 

And be sure to see the new List of Dream Links page. This 

is REALLY cool - Matthew as added a form to put in NEW 

LINKS - just fill it out and place the link in one of 8 

catagories. 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~mettw/edreams/links.html 

And as mentioned last issue, Matthew has OPENED the 

Electric Dreams Web site to the dreaming public so if you 

have a dream related page you want up, send it to him and 

he will attach it the Electric Dreams Web Site. 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~mettw/edreams/web-pages.html 

Jayne Gackenbach has finished beta testing her Web site 

Dream Course. Many thanks to all the Electric Dreams beta 

testers! See the Global Dreaming News for more on the new 

June classes. What? You don't know who Jayne Gackenbach 

is? Well you're in luck today as our Q&A editor, 

Victoria Quinton has provided us this month with an 

interview. 

Trisha Lamb Feuerstein has donated a sneak peak at her 

new book on dreams, whales and dreamtime. For a wonderful 

swim in the sea of dreams you can not only read her 

article here, but link to more cetacean spots via a 

mirror of the article at: 

http://www.best.com/~rcwilk/asd-13/4r30.htm 

Also this issue, Dreamwatcher poetry, Part II of Lucid 

Dream Techniques, tons of info on dreams and Cyberspace, 

dreams and the Association for the Study of Dreams and 

other international dream events in the Global Dreaming 

News, questions on dreams from around the world and 

special comments and notes. 

See you in my Dreamzzzzzzzzzzz -Richard 

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QUESTION AIRING FORUM 

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Notes from the Questions and Answer Editor. 

Greetings subscribers and others interested 

parties. Here follows my first foray into the world of 

writing for an E-zine. 

Firstly, I am known in Cyberspace as mermaid, 

otherwise as Victoria Quinton, wife of Gary and mother of 

Emily. 

I have been interested in dreams as a subject for 

some years, though I have never "studied" them formally. 

I was initially drawn to Electric Dreams through 

the simple expedient of doing a net search on Dreams. 

Through the search, I landed at Dream Link, had a look 

around, entered a dream in their journal, and filled out 

a general questionnaire. 

Within a few weeks, I had e-mail from Richard 

Wilkerson, notifying me that a new e-mail dream class was 

imminent and that if I hurried, I could be included; all 

for $10 US. 

From there, I joined Dream Wheel 7. I really 

enjoyed sharing dreams, both to gain insight into my own 

dream and to aid others in their search for insights from 

theirs. Because the procedure was new to me, I held back 

to some extent, but was inspired to continue on as a 

participant in Dream Wheel 8. 

Part way through Dream Wheel 7, Richard signed us all up 

to receive Electric Dreams. 

While scanning through the contents of Electric 

Dreams 3#3, I noticed a request for a volunteer Q&A 

editor. I sent in a tentative email to Richard, asking 

how much interest his request had generated and saying 

that I'd help out if I could. In next to no time I had a 

job! 

I have had an Internet account for less than a 

year. I live in Melbourne, Australia. These facts will 

incorporate themselves into Electric Dreams. 

Please help to energize this column by writing to me: 

mermaid@daemon.apana.org.au 

I am keen to hear from you, especially if you 

live in Australia or "surrounds". 

Also, I intend to make a special place for 

children's dreams; to include in their own "frames" that 

reintroduce us to the art that is the dream of a child. 

Emily is only 2 and though I see that she dreams; 

sharing her dreams is a pleasure yet to come. 

There are many ways to approach dreams, both as 

individuals trying to gain insight into our own dreams 

and in helping others to work with their dreams. 

To that end, I would like to incorporate 

interviews into "my" section of the E-zine. 

If you'd like to put yourself forward as "Dreamer of the 

month"; send me e-mail. 

That address again: mermaid@daemon.apana.org.au 

I am hoping that there will be a variety of 

ongoing conversations. 

QUESTION: 

Is there a question you'd like to ask me 

that would make you feel more comfortable about writing 

into Electric Dreams? 

other questions received this month: 

Subj: Electric Dreams 

Date: 96-05-02 04:53:17 EDT 

From: wargh@wam.umd.edu (Daniel James Bell) 

To: rcwilk@aol.com 

I've been having trouble sleeping because of a reoccuring 

t*y*p*e of lucid dream (they're all different, but the 

feeling's the same), usually in which my point of view 

is other than corporal (classic out of body thing? I 

don't know). 

I (being a Christian, 19 years old, and never heard of 

anything like this before I had my first) have no idea 

what the heck it's all about. I've never tried to 

induce one, but since they scare the hell out of me, and 

I usually can't sleep the next day after one occurs 

(check the time this message was sent) I figure it will 

be greatly beneficial for me to tell some people about 

it. I'd like to join your dream sharing group. 

May I request responses from some of the readers? I 

truly appreciate your help. 

-Daniel Bell 

Any suggestions? 

Daniel's email address is: wargh@wam.umd.edu 

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Sergey: I'm glad to join 

Date: 96-04-24 04:02:06 EDT 

From: xieji@xieji.msk.ru (Sergey Iv. Blumkhen) 

To: rcwilk@aol.com 

Hi Richard, 

Thank You for Your welcome, I'm glad to join. 

About my address - You are right, *.msk.ru means Moscow, 

Russia. And here there are not so many events in the 

dream field. As far as I know, in the recent few years 

there appeared only 2 or 3 book titles connected with 

dreaming (except Carlos Castaneda's works, of course). 

But the public interest is considerable, people try to 

find information where they can, and one of the most 

prominent sources becomes E-mail. 

I'm researcher of the Institute of Oriental Studies, 

China dept. One of the jobs I do for myself deals with 

dreaming as means to obtain basic point for legitimation 

of political decisions in Ancient China as well as 

studying connections of this practice with shamanistic 

traditions of Eastern Asia. In fact, considerable part of 

the Chinese classic literature is somehow connected with 

dreaming and the use of it (especially short stories of 

the XVIIth century). 

But in the real dreaming I'm a novice. 

Can You advise me some books to read about practice of 

dreaming? May be they will help me to begin - now in the 

morning I just switch on and don't remember any dream, 

which makes me envy my wife and her long dreaming 

stories. 

-Sergey 

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From: Igor Savchenko <root@igor.odessa.ua> 

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 15:41:00 +0300 (UKD) 

Subject: Re: jung books, etc 

We are interested in Jung and before and currently we are 

not really lucky in obtaining the proper materials. The 

main difficulty is financial. Not complaining, just 

stating the fact. In case you have C.G.Jung books:old, 

damaged, used, gathering dust on the shelves and you do 

not need them any more, we would be more than delighted 

to explore them. There is not much which we could offer 

in return, wish we could. Please let us know what you 

might fancy from Ukraine: folk art items, audio records, 

albums, or ... if you wish we will try to send you the 

'test parcel' with some things and you will see whether 

you like it or there is something else you might fancy. 

Regarding books we will better give you a long list of 

the books we are looking for or if such are not available 

any will be welcome. We have not much: 'Memories, Dreams, 

Reflections', 'Man and his Symbols' volume 6 from 

Collected Works, this is about it, not much, but it made 

us to get involved in it very seriously. Well will close 

up for this time. Going to take little Darya outside. 

Will be looking for you reply. With Best Regards 

Savchenko Family 

THE COLLECTED WORKS BY C G JUNG: 

VOL. 7 'TWO ESSAYS ON ANALYTICAL PSYCHOLOGY' 

VOL. 8 ' THE STRUCTURE AN DYNAMICS OF THE PSYCHE' 

VOL. 9 part one 'ARCHETYPES AND COLLECTIVE 

UNCONSCIOUS' 

VOL. 9 part two 'AION' 

VOL. 10 'CIVILIZATION IN TRANSITION' 

VOL. 11 'PSYCHOLOGY AND RELIGION: WEST AND EAST' 

VOL. 12 'PSYCHOLOGY AND ALCHEMY' 

VOL. 13 'ALCHEMICAL STUDIES' 

VOL. 14 'MYSTERIUM CONIUNCTIONIS' 

VOL. 16 'THE PRACTICE OF PSYCHOTHERAPY' 

VOL. 17 'DEVELOPMENT OF THE PERSONALITY' 

VOL. 18 'THE SYMBOLIC LIFE' 

EXTRACTS: 

'ANSWER TO JOB' 

'ASPECTS OF THE FEMININE' 

'ASPECTS OF THE MASCULINE' 

'DREAMS' 

'ESSAYS ON CONTEMPORARY EVENTS' 

'FLYING SAUCERS' 

'MANDALA SYMBOLISM' 

'ON THE NATURE OF THE PSYCHE' 

'PSYCHOLOGY AND THE EAST' 

'PSYCHOLOGY AND THE OCCULT' 

'PSYCHOLOGY OF THE TRANSFERENCE' 

'SYNCHRONICITY' 

'THE UNDISCOVERED SELF' 

SEMINARS: 

VOL.1 'DREAM ANALYSIS' 

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Dreamwatching 

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I 

As, yes again, 

the sabbath approaches. 

The mezzuin's cry 

the sunlight and the bluesky 

the mountain and the sea 

watching with me 

Sleep well 

I am out here 

Dreamwatching 

 

II 

 

swinging straight into dreamtime 

yourtime notime like the present 

netcycles sea like lunar tidal 

always here but ebbing always there 

i use pointed signifiers 

for rounded reference 

assume nothing 

assume everything 

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fanny@ICAFE.CO.ZA (Fanny Jacobson) 

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DREAM LINE: Interview with Jeese Reklaw 

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Hello regular readers and new subscribers to Electric 

Dreams. Some of you may know, from reading past Dream 

Lines, that I usually focus on a social issue and explore 

the relationship between that issue and our dreams. This 

Dream Line is different in that I am presenting a short 

history of and interview with Jesse Reklaw, dream 

illustrator. 

My first contact with Jesse was an email that he sent to 

me. He had read one of my dreams in an issue of Electric 

Dreams and asked me if he could have permission to 

illustrate it for use in his comic anthology of 

illustrated dreams, Concave Up. I gave Jesse permission 

to do so. As we corresponded regarding the details of 

his illustrating my dream I began to become interested in 

the idea of a collection of dreams, from many different 

dreamers, in an illustrated form. 

The beautifully alluring cover art of Concave Up #1 

touches the dreamer in me--a woman, hugging herself, with 

eyes closed, stands against a swirling, surreal 

background. This cover art speaks of the Dreamtime. In 

fact, during the interview, Jesse shared that most of his 

paintings, which he uses as cover art for Concave Up, 

stem from images he sees in the hypnogogic state (just 

before falling asleep)! 

Inside the front cover Jesse speaks of his idea for 

Concave Up and the fact that others have tread this 

ground before (more on this later). Jesse also gives the 

Web site for Concave Up. The address is: 

http://www.nonDairy.com/conave/up.html 

There is also a shorter, weekly dream comic strip on the 

web. Slow wave's address is: 

http://www.nonDairy.com/slow/wave.cgi 

I strongly urge anyone interested in dreams to check 

these out! 

Okay, enough of me telling you about Jesse. Here is a 

brief bio that Jesse provided as a starting point for the 

interview: 

"I'm twenty-five, graduate (BA) from UC Santa Cruz in 

Computer Science and Art. (My respective focuses were in 

artificial intelligence and acrylic painting.) I have 

studied (in classes and independently) pop art, cognitive 

science, the tarot, psychology (Freud, Jung, Piaget, 

Myers-Briggs), and lots of math. I have been drawing 

comics since I was 16. 

Concave Up is a comic book that I self publish quarterly 

(with my income as a programmer %), containing 

illustrated dreams, mostly 2-3 pages long. Submissions 

come from all over, though at first I had to beg family 

and friends to donate dreams. I have been receiving a 

trickle of dream submissions, but I still need to 

supplement them by surfing the web and finding dream 

pages and 

gold mines like E.D. 

Slow Wave is a weekly comic strip I do as a complement to 

Concave Up, because I got so many interesting short 

dreams (that wouldn't fill a page in CU), and because I'm 

too impatient to wait three months to put something out! 

About half of each Concave Up issue goes on the web, 

along with all the Slow Waves. I'm always looking for 

dream submissions, and the Web has been a great medium 

for attracting them. All the dream contributors to 

Concave Up have a "bite-sized biography" in the back of 

the issue." 

And, here is the interview: 

CH: Is there any specific event or occurrence that 

sparked the idea for Concave Up and Slow Wave? 

JR: Hmm...not any particular event, no. While 

writing/illustrating the story of a delusionary 

narcoleptic, the idea of an all-dream comic book occurred 

to me. I had been interspecting my goofy comic book with 

illustrated anecdotes and rants told to me by friends; 

one of these was an edited dream posted to the 

alt.surrealism newsgroup by Ranjit Bhantnager called 

"Dictator Dictoria." It was too good of a story to pass 

up, so I contacted him via email and asked if I could 

illustrate it. Another dream was authored by my sister, 

entitled "april 13, 1993." She narrated it to me over 

the phone from her detailed dream-diary, and I was 

instantly taken by the simple, symbolic narrative. 

Illustrating these dreams inspired me to seek others by 

means of a dream-contest (send in a dream for the chance 

to be a cartoon!). Eventually the dream contest idea 

overwhelmed my interest in the original storyline, and I 

abandoned it for an all-dream comic. 

CH: Were there any predecessors to Concave Up/Slow Wave 

(either by your own hand or others)? 

JR: Definitely. Julie Doucet's work in Dirty Plotte was 

probably my most direct influence for doing a dream 

comic. Her storytelling style (as French-Canadian 

writing in English) has a quirky innocence that blends 

well with dream-comics. Hers were the first illustrated 

dreams that I can recall reading/absorbing. Comics by 

Adrian Tomine and Chester Brown also influenced my belief 

in and respect for dream comics. I didn't know about 

Rick Veitch's "Rare Bit Friends" at the time, but he came 

across the idea of an all-dream comic about a year before 

I did, and had the gumption to make it a reality long 

before me. 

CH: How long have you been publishing Concave Up? 

JR: I started working on issue #1 early in 1995, but it 

wasn't until March, 1996 that the issue materialized. So 

I guess that makes only a few months; I'm very new to 

this publishing thing. 

CH: This sounds like a very recent project for you. How 

would you describe your experience with Concave Up and 

Slow Wave at this early point (positive, negative, 

enjoyable, stress producing, etc.)? 

JR: Well, from your list "stress producing" seems the 

most appropriate. I'm working full time as a computer 

programmer and preparing for grad school while doing 

Concave Up 4 times a year and Slow Wave every week. But 

aside from the stress, I enjoy the creative collaboration 

of illustrating dreams. Overall it's definitely a 

positive experience; wish I had more time to devote 

to it. 

CH: You said, in your bio, you have studied some 

psychology (among other areas), but what about dream 

work? What sort of studying/reading have you done in 

that specific area? 

JR: Right now I'm reading _Our Dreaming Mind_ by Bob Van 

de Castle , I have tried to read some Jung (his writing 

confuses me--!), and I browsed through several of Freud's 

books (and books on Freud) for the dream of "Irma's 

Injection." [SEE CU #1] I guess I have a cursory 

understanding 

of different types of dream analysis, but I don't try to 

exercise any conscious interpretation when I draw dreams; 

mostly I'm interested in effectively portraying the 

narrative and the characters' thoughts and feelings. 

CH: Do you do any personal dream work, and if so how 

long have you been doing so? 

JR: I've transcribed a few of my own dreams, and I've 

"shared" dreams with others. I used to be an amateur 

Tarot reader, and I think that process of divination (if 

I can use the word creatively) is similar to dream 

interpretation. I pay close attention to my half-dreaming 

mind (is that also called the hypnogogic state?) for 

artistic inspiration. Most of my paintings (which I use 

on the covers of Concave Up) are based on images from 

that state of hyperactive creativity. 

CH: Names. I am wondering where you came up with 

Concave Up, Slow Wave, and nonDairy Publishing? 

JR: Well, names are always difficult for me. Slow Wave 

was a suggestion by my sister; I think it's a common term 

for the deep, dreamless waves of stage 4 NREM. Concave Up 

was suggested by my partner Raven. It's a silly math term 

relating to waves (and has appropriate initials). 

nonDairy Publishing was also suggested by Raven, in 

relation to my being vegan. 

CH: What sort of equipment do you use in the publication 

of CU? 

JR: It's a real hybrid of traditional comic-book tools 

and more advanced computer-assistance. I pencil each page 

on butcher paper stretched across a glass light-box. Then 

I lay down sheets of art paper, turn on the light-box so 

I can see the pencil from underneath, and ink the pages 

in with an old speedball nib/ pen (sometimes using the 

cap of the ink bottle to splash ink around). White-out 

comes in handy here and there. I made a font from my 

handwriting; so I do all the narrative-box lettering on 

the 

computer, cut it out and stick it down. (Though I still 

hand-letter the word balloons, 'cause their shapes are 

too odd.) If I make any gross errors (which is usually 

the case), I scan that part of the page, edit the picture 

in Adobe Photoshop, print it out, and paste the edit on 

top of the mistake. I'm sure that's all very boring, but 

you did ask! 

CH: Were the Internet and World Wide Web part of the 

distribution of Concave Up and Slow Wave from the 

beginning? 

JR: I began working on Concave Up and realized the Web 

would be a great place to showcase it. Of course, the 

image quality is a little low, and the time it takes to 

load a page can be annoying, but I'm happy to have the 

medium to reach more people. Slow Wave was an 

afterthought which I wouldn't have implemented without 

the Web. I became dissatisfied with the idea of 

publishing CU only once a quarter, so I came up with the 

idea of a weekly dream-strip to complement the larger 

book. It's generated a lot of feedback (and dream 

submissions), and also provided an outlet for all the 

short dreams that wouldn't fill a whole page in Concave 

Up. The Internet and desktop publishing technology 

helped to clear away the small-business roadblocks that 

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In addition to interviewing Jesse, I asked him to contact 

some dreamers whose dreams he had illustrated. Here are 

the responses of three of these dreamers to a few 

questions about their experience. 

What were your initial thoughts when Jesse approached you 

about illustrating your dream? 

R answers: First time: [Dictator, Dictatoria] Kinda 

flattered that he thought the story was worth 

illustrating, and eager to see the result. 

More recent dreams: pretty much the same, actually. 

J answers: Disbelief, followed by amazement. Looking 

back, I guess that given how bizarre it is for people to 

write up their dreams and publish them on the 'Net, 

someone wanting to buy them is a natural consequence. 

N answers: First of all, it wasn't Jesse who approached 

me, but my dream editor, Richard Wilkerson. Seeing as 

how us 'dreamers' use pen names other than our screen 

names, there was no way for Jesse to get in touch with 

us, so it was handled via Richard. As for my thoughts on 

the idea/subject....I was truly delighted. Not that I 

myself try to 'cartoonize' my dreams, but I do on 

occasion try drawing objects from my dreams, I was happy 

to have someone do the drawing for me in this instance. 

 

Had you heard of Concave Up or Slow Wave prior to Jesse 

contacting you? 

R answers: No. 

J answers: Nope. 

N answers: Again, not until Richard wrote and said my 

dream had been 'tooned', I had no idea such a page 

existed, but it is fascinating to say the least. 

 

Can you briefly describe the dream Jesse illustrated? 

 

R answers: 

1. College student falls in love with fugitive Latin 

American dictator in drag. [CU 0] 

2. Creeping along the top of a wall overlooking a wooded 

river canyon. [SW] 

3. When I have trouble building my house, the tribesmen 

build a hut for me. [CU 1] 

4. Picnicking on the snowy hillside, watching the fires 

burn on the other side of the bay; a skier runs over my 

legs. [SW] 

J answers: I was a detective, on the trail of a 

murderer. During the course of the dream, I revealed 

myself to have once been a murderer, who was executed for 

my crime. I cannot explain how I am still alive. 

N answers: Actually, this was one of my 'shorter' 

dreams. I had forwarded some e-mail only to have it came 

back and attack me (jump off the screen like 

electricity). I was with three others and we tried to 

hide from it. We tried to send it again, but it only 

kept returning to find us. Finally, I told the others to 

hide and I would try to send it again (third time's the 

charm, right?). I worked furiously as I only had a slim 

window of opportunity in which to send it. (1//27/96) 

 

What was your first impression upon seeing your 

illustrated dream? 

 

R answers: I was very impressed by Jesse's skill and 

unusual style. In the case of the first dream, I was 

surprised at how closely the settings he drew matched 

what I remembered from the 

dream. (I usually remember the architecture and 

surroundings from dreams better than the faces and 

people.) When I think back on any of these dreams now, my 

memories are influenced by Jesse's visual interpretation. 

In the case of the fourth dream above, I was disappointed 

that Jesse's drawings didn't match the setting or have 

the 

visual impact of my dream, but I don't think that I could 

have satisfactorily described the scene (let alone drawn 

it myself) in any case. Remembered images from the other 

two dreams weren't so strong, so I was neither struck by 

similarities nor annoyed by differences. 

I email dreams to Jesse fairly often, and usually make a 

conscious effort NOT to describe settings or events in 

too much detail, so that he can come up with his own 

interpretation. 

J answers: Very impressed. Jesse is one hell of a 

talented guy. I was thrilled to see my imagination 

displayed graphically. 

N answers: That it was just WAY TOO COOL. I was blown 

away by his depiction. If I didn't know better, I'd say 

he'd been there (in my dream). 

 

How well do you think your dream images translated into 

the comic format? 

 

R answers: Hard to answer. I sometimes wish I had the 

skill to draw scenes from my own dreams, but I wonder if 

even the strongest visual memories from dreams are 

substantial enough to be reproduced. 

J answers: Very well. There were only one or two 

changes I had to suggest. One of the characters didn't 

look as I had imagined, but that was not unreasonable 

given that I hadn't provided any clues. Overall there 

were some other changes I had not contemplated, but the 

overall balance of the dream segments was maintained. 

N answers: Jesse captured the essence of it perfectly. 

I think the guy must have ESP or something. It's almost 

eerie. 

 

Did working with Jesse to illustrate your dream help you 

to gain any deeper understanding of the dream? 

 

R answers: I'm not very interested in interpretation or 

understanding of dreams beyond appreciating the surface 

story and 

settings. 

J answers: Well, no, not really. I still have no idea 

what I was thinking of. What does it all mean? Nothing, 

really, it's just a re-hash of a bunch of stuff that 

happened to you during the day - right? I don't think 

dreams say much about the person at all, and trying to 

understand a dream is more dangerous than rewarding. 

Appreciate them, perhaps, be entertained or motivated - 

but understand? No. 

N answers: Since the dream was done prior to my 

knowledge, I have to say no, not in this particular case. 

But if/when I ever publish my dreams into a book, I'll 

know where to look for an illustrator. 

 

So there you have it, Jesse Reklaw's story of Concave 

Up/Slow Wave and some reactions from dreamers. I very 

much enjoy reading dreams in this alternate format and I 

suspect anyone interested in dreams and dreamwork would 

enjoy this unique format just as much! 

If you are interested in subscribing to Concave Up, or 

submitting a dream(s) to Jesse you can email him at: 

reklaw@plato.digiweb.com 

**Last minute note: 

While I was in the process of putting the completed 

interview together for this column Jesse joined the 

Electric Dreams staff as our new Art Director! A hearty 

welcome to Jesse!!! 

--Christopher Hicks 

 

 

 

 

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Dream Reaper - by Nutcracker 

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Hello All! 

Nutcracker here (that's Ms. Nutcracker to those of you 

unfamiliar with me). Our friend and fearless leader 

(mentor, cajoler, confidant), Richard Catlett Wilkerson, 

has convinced me to start my own Dream Journal page on 

the www. I have to admit, my dreams have outgrown the 

space available in Electric Dreams. (Now this is where 

Richard wants me to interject something personal about 

myself.) Hmmm, let's see... 

I'm happily married, no kids (that's why I'm happy), I 

don't do drugs (ok, the occasional Excedrin PM and 

Coca-Cola before bedtime), I don't smoke or drink (unless 

necessary). I'm not a rocket scientist, nor do I claim 

to be one. I don't have a PhD. I'm just your average, 

plain-jane, nearing middle-age female (of course that 

depends on *your* definition of middle age). Due to life 

circumstances I find myself with ample free time to 

devote to caring for my dreams (besides which it keeps me 

out of the bars during the day). LOL 

On a more serious note, I began keeping a log of my 

dreams somewhere in January of 1995. I'm not sure 

exactly where they came from so abruptly (seemingly out 

of nowhere), but they were too interesting to let go 

unpublished. To quote my husband, "You couldn't make 

this stuff up if you tried!" So began my journey into 

the abyss of dreams. Here it is a year and a half later 

and I'm still at it. It does take perseverance mind you. 

Left unattended, dreams will not flourish on their own. 

Dreams are like flowers in a garden. Sure you get the 

occasional weed, but every once in a while you get one 

that blooms so bright and so large, it begs to be picked. 

I keep a notebook and pen next to me on the bed and 

usually awaken during the night to write them down 

(sometimes all night long or so it seems...and yes, it is 

annoying). Still, I highly recommend this. If you think 

you'll be able to remember them come morning, don't bet 

on it. Been there, done that. Sometimes it works, but 

mostly it doesn't. I shudder to think about the ones 

that got away. My advice; get up, write them down and 

go back to sleep. You'll rest much easier. 

As to the journal of my dreams that I keep, after the 

first year I've learned a few things. I now keep them by 

month. I write the date of the dream after them and I 

number each one (#001, etc.). 

Finally, I encourage everyone to write down their dreams, 

write down your kids' dreams and dreams from friends and 

family. Dreams you and they have now may come back 

(recurring) 5, 10 or 20 years from now. They would be 

great to have as a reference. 

Sweet dreams...... 

Nutcracker >> 

 

 

 

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JAYNE GACKENBACH 

Interview by Victoria Quinton 

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VQ How long have you had a formal interest in 

dreams? 

JG I suppose I got interested when I was about 12 and 

started wanting to go to bed cause it was fun - shocked 

my parents that there was no longer an argument - but my 

serious interest began with my dissertation which was 

begun in 1976 and was on lucid dreams - although I paid 

attention to my dreams through my research phase of my 

career not until I immigrated to Canada in the late 

1980's did I really begin to take them seriously as a 

personal growth vehicle - that was in large part due to 

my involvement with the central Alberta Cree. 

VQ Is their tradition on dreams largely an oral one? 

JG I've seen nothing written about it beyond perhaps some 

of the anthropological literature and the work I have 

been doing with Don Kuiken at the University of Alberta 

and the writing I have done - yes it is oral 

VQ How do they approach dreams, and how does their way 

differ from techniques you had previously tried? 

JG I have written extensively about this elsewhere - here 

is an excerpt from a chapter I wrote for a forthcoming 

book edited by Stan Krippner - the story I tell is from 

my forthcoming book, "The Traditional Death of Crow 

Woman". 

--quote---- 

It isn't just that Natives use dreams more as stories 

than non-Natives rather it is that dreams for them are 

more present as lived experiences in another realm which 

then serve to guide. Let me illustrate from part of a 

story I have just completed telling in book form 

(Gackenbach, in press b) about a Canadian Native woman 

who died four years ago at age 49. 

Raised in a dysfunctional family and repeating 

the pattern in her adult life, Crow Woman became involved 

in the recovery movement through individual and group 

work and successfully recovered from alcoholism and drug 

addiction. She herself became a counselor to other 

Natives. The hundreds of people at her funeral and 

constant stream of visitors during her last weeks 

attested to the success of her personal efforts at 

helping other Natives to recover from their own histories 

of addiction, violence, and abuse. 

At the time she was diagnosed with cancer, she 

was deeply committed to her culture's traditional beliefs 

and practices. Despite a grim prognosis, she rejected 

surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy as culturally 

inconsistent. Instead she immediately turned to the "Old 

Man", an 82-year-old shaman who speaks six Native 

languages. She lived with his family, fasting, using 

poultices and herbal/root remedies the Old Man prepared, 

and taking sweats to purge the cancer from her body. 

The paradox of her finally attaining 

psychological health along with profound spiritual 

transcendence experiences at the time of her physical 

bodies disintegration was the ground work for a powerful 

teaching story among the family which they agreed to 

share with me and readers of my book. 

Because of the sensitivity of the Cree for dreams 

and their belief that dreams are the "place" where one 

receives "visits" from those who have passed on, Crow 

Woman has continued to be a major influence in the lives 

of those close to her. Her messages are not always 

welcome or immediately understood but their impact is 

clearly due to the beliefs of those who experience these 

dreams. Here are two examples of how the Native episteme 

around dreams of Crow Woman drove subsequent action. 

When Crow Woman's cousin, Jessy, went to sleep 

she was feverish to point of almost delirious. And when 

she woke the dream was vivid and compelling. In it Crow 

Woman told her distant cousin to sit down, "There are 

some messages I have to tell you that you have to pass on 

to people". Jessy was reluctant but Crow Woman insisted. 

When Jessy woke she thought, "I am not doing this". When 

I asked this young Native woman what her was resistance 

was about, Jessy said the messages were like Crow Woman, 

straight forward and direct . Jessy also felt, why me? 

First of all she and Crow Woman did not get along that 

well before Crow Woman died and despite being a family 

member, Jessy was kind of new to the family dynamics 

having been raised in another province. So when she asked 

Crow Woman in the dream, "why me", it was "because I know 

you will tell them." 

Then Crow Woman told her cousin the messages. One 

was for the Old Man's Wife, who was an elder herself to 

which this heavy set Cree woman, replied, "there is no 

way I can tell Jen that." The grandfathers were telling 

Crow Woman that Jen had to heal her psychological garbage 

before she could represent them in the teachings. If she 

didn't the people would have a hard time hearing the true 

teachings. It was a lot for a young Native woman to pass 

onto an elder. 

Then Crow Woman told Jessy, "you know you've got 

one coming too". Jessy mumbled, "Yea, I kind of figured I 

did." Her message was that Jessy had to get over her 

pettiness. You have a lot of work to do and we don't have 

time for you to be petty. "It just hit me like a sledge 

hammer." Although she knew she was capable of being 

petty, she had worked very hard to hide those inner 

thoughts from others. It was a deeply secret part of 

herself. In fact, when Jessy told me I too was surprised 

as I had known her well for almost four years and 

pettiness was the last thing I would have thought about 

Jessy. It was indeed well hidden. 

Jessey's reaction to what Crow Woman said is 

indicative of the perception that is widely spread in 

Crow Woman's family. The dream comes from out there and 

is NOT simply internal unresolved personal issues. With 

my western scientific hat, I might say, "of course Crow 

Woman knew about your pettiness because it was your dream 

thus it was simply you telling yourself about yourself". 

But to say that to Jessy or to any of the family members 

about many, if not all, of their dream experiences of 

Crow Woman would be to strip them of their meaning, 

source, and importance. As I conducted the interviews for 

this book gradually I found it easier to think of their 

experiences as somehow "otherworldly". It is clear to me 

that this view of "reality" is one that I struggle with 

sharing yet deeply respect. 

About three years after Crow Woman died her 

eldest son, Wil, and his common-law wife, Carla, 

separated. Carla and their children had moved to a 

downstairs apartment. At 28 years of age, this tall young 

man is not only good looking and well built but he has a 

personal presence that makes many a woman's head turn 

which may have been instrumental in their separation. 

A day after the separation Wil had a powerful 

dream of his mother. The room where Wil slept seemed so 

empty without the baby's crib and the other things that 

make a home with children seem so much a home. He had 

taken in a roommate who slept in the same room. The 

roommate liked to sleep with the window open and Wil felt 

quite cold that night as he fell asleep. 

He dreamed that he was with his mother and his 

older sister, Shelly. There "was only us three through 

that whole dream and we were quite simply having fun". He 

continued, "I can remember us joking around, having fun, 

actually being happy. It's nothing I felt before." He 

wished he had written it down but the thing that stood 

out the most for him was how "happy, really, really, 

happy." they were. "It was like she was alive, it wasn't 

now, it wasn't like it was before. It was like it [would 

have been] now [and mom and] Shelly were with me and we 

were having fun. It wasn't something that has to be 

explained. We were close." It was a "sign for me that is 

how it would be if she was here." Then he awoke. 

"It was dark, it was cold, and it was dead silent. I 

felt so scared. I couldn't go to sleep. I couldn't move. 

It was totally different. It was like I was pulled from 

good to evil." He was so scared that he could not sleep. 

So he got up and went downstairs to his wives apartment. 

"I went into the bedroom and I [picked up] my daughter 

and hugged her. Everything in that room downstairs was so 

opposite of what it was upstairs. If you can ever 

understand what love feels like that was it." He cried 

for about 10 or 15 minutes while his tiny daughter 

stroked his head. "It was almost like my mother was 

saying 'what are you doing up there, you should be 

downstairs with your family.' I did not try to understand 

why that happened or why those emotions were so strong. . 

. . It felt like she pushed me, she made me, she was 

there, I know she was there." He pointed out that 

ordinarily he would not have gotten out of bed and sought 

out his wife and child because of his pride. 

As with his cousin Jessy's story of a dream message 

from Crow Woman, Wil's story can also be easily reduced 

to internal psychological mechanisms interacting with 

previous real lie events in order to create the dream. As 

a scientifically trained psychologist it is easy for me 

to use such reductionistic thinking when faced with such 

stories including my own. Not only do I then stay within 

the accepted limits of my science but also the limits of 

my cultures view of reality. 

Yet, I would be doing Wil and Jessy a disservice if I 

were to approach their dreams in this fashion. Further, I 

would be doing both my professional and personal self a 

disservice. 

In the cases of these young Native people it 

wasn't the dreams per sec that caused their actions 

rather it was their belief about the reality of the 

source of the dream which resulted in the powerful impact 

of the dreams and the actions that were subsequently 

taken. 

Jessy could be petty and Wil knew he could be 

filled with too much pride. In Jessy's case it was very 

well hidden, if she believed that the dream was only her 

inner self acting on the minds play ground, she may have 

been impacted by it but I doubt to the extent that she 

was. Jessy only told the messages after struggling for 

several days with whether she should and finally when she 

lost her voice she realized she had to tell the tale. 

It would have been easy to have contextualized 

the message of her dream with her waking rational voice 

as, "well, there may be truth to these messages but I 

have no right to say these things to these people. I have 

no right to represent Crow Woman who I didn't even get 

along with." So too for Wil, upon awakening if he didn't 

have the belief system he had in the reality of the 

presence of his mother his waking pride may have kept him 

in bed. 

But Jessy's belief that Crow Woman came from the 

spirit world of the dead to deliver these messages from 

the grandfathers via Jessy was so deep, that by not doing 

it she lost her voice. Only when she began to deliver the 

messages did her voice return. So too, Wil's belief in 

the reality of the visitation caused him to take an 

action which resulted in the purging of some deeply held 

hurts as his daughter and wife looked on. 

It seems to me that the power of the dream to act 

as a guiding story for the Cree is dependent on their 

beliefs in its separate ontology. In the next section I 

will briefly review some of the empirical research on the 

dream perspectives of the central Alberta Cree. 

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VQ 

Have you been more influenced by book theories or 

by word of mouth theories? 

JG I love the question! I am going to interpret this to 

me formal scholarly Theories (book) and informal peer 

group discussions (word of mouth). The first important 

theoretical influence was my father, so I suppose that 

was word of mouth. He spoke to me about philosophy and 

eastern metaphysics as well as parapsychology and 

religion from early childhood. He got his BA from Duke in 

psychology just before WWII and specifically went there 

to study parapsychology with MacDougall who had opened 

the parapsychology lab there. These many years of 

personal teaching laid the groundwork for my interest in 

these topics and eventually in dreams. Then in the 60's 

and early 70's I was a child of my generation (baby boom) 

and explored these same ideas from an experiential 

perspective. Upon entering graduate school in 1974 I 

began a real scholarly interest in dreams and related 

states/experiences. From then the most influential were 

scholarly - although some of this was quite word of mouth 

- much of what I learned from Harry Hunt, Skip Alexander 

and Steve LaBerge came from personal discussion. When I 

moved to Canada I became involved with a Cree Shaman and 

the teaching again became primarily verbal although I 

still am left breathless at a truly brilliant work in 

book/paper form. For instance, as much as I have spoken, 

worked with, and read the work of Harry Hunt I am stunned 

by the breadth and scope of his new book "The Nature of 

Consciousness". As I face 50 (in a few weeks!) I take my 

wisdom where I can find it and am less and less fussy 

about it's source. 

VQ I know it is difficult, but could you summarize the 

theories of Harry Hunt, Skip Alexander and Steve LaBerge, 

or just briefly "introduce" them to us? 

JG Summarize theories - don't I wish!!!!! Harry wrote 

"The Multiplicity of Dreams" and is one of the original 

researchers into lucid dreaming. Skip is a developmental 

psychologists who has proposed an empirically supported 

model of the development of higher states of 

consciousness based on the teachings of Maharishi Mahesh 

Yogi, I lived near him in Iowa for almost and as with 

Harry we became close friends. I worked with Steve for 

about 10 years in the early days of research into lucid 

dreaming. 

 

VQ Also Would you like to give some info about ASD and 

the new bulletin board? 

JG it's up and running - linked to "cold fusion." Let's 

see I proposed to the executive committee of ASD that we 

mount a web page last fall. I got approval for a very 

small budget and very conservative first page.that is to 

say, we decided to start with only what we already have 

in the public domain.However, there was a part of that 

proposal which said there would be a BB for ASD related 

matters - with the need for a BB for the conference the 

initial concept has broadened and now there is a lot of 

debate about whether we should interpret dreams on it - 

at this point it is roughly monitored and dreams are not 

interpreted; although they are certainly central to any 

task we do there. it is linked from Electric Dreams - it 

is 

http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd 

VQ Who do you think may benefit from participating 

in 

" Unlocking the Secrets of Your Dreams?" 

JG The course is designed as non-credit and introductory. 

I am hoping to show students both the science and 

experiential work with dreaming, by offering them a 

variety of information on dreams from which they can pick 

and choose in a web page format.The assignments allow 

them to begin to think about their own dreams in a 

psychologically "safe" and fun way. As the course 

progresses there are activities which allow more depth in 

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Interview conducted by Victoria Quinton 

mermaid 8*) 

http://daemon.apana.org.au/~mermaid 

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Comments on Dream by Jung= Review by Sue B. 

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I was reading "The Way of the Dream: Conversations on 

Jungian Dream Interpretation" by Fraser Boa with 

Marie-Louise von Franz and thought I'd share this passage 

with you. 

Jung had an amazing dream "in which he encountered the 

Self in the form of a yogi. Jung dreamt he was walking 

along a little road and came to a small chapel. He 

entered and was surprised that there was no statue of the 

Virgin on the altar nor a crucifix either, but only a 

beautiful flower arrangement. 

And then he saw on the floor in front of the altar a yogi 

sitting in lotus posture, in deep meditation. 

Jung realized with a shock that this was the yogi who was 

imagining him, and that in his trance, a kind of active 

imagination, he was imagining the life of Jung, dreaming 

him. Jung knew that when the yogi woke up, he, Jung 

would no longer exist. The ordinary Professor Jung was 

the dream of that greater 

inner figure. 

And yet, at the same time, the yogi figure was a dream of 

Dr. Jung's. This paradox reminds me (M. von Franz) of 

the dream of Chuang Tzu. 

Chuang Tzu said that he once dreamt that he was a 

butterfly. That dream left him puzzling ever after 

whether he was a man who dreamt that he was a butterfly 

or whether he was a butterfly who dreamt that he was a 

man. A butterfly is a symbol of the Self. Are we the 

dream of the Self or is the Self our dream? We just 

don't know." 

Sue B. 

 

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Dolphins, Whales, and Dreamtime 

by Trisha Lamb Feuerstein (dolphintlf@aol.com) 

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As part of my research for a book on the psychological, 

spiritual, and cultural significance of cetaceans 

(dolphins and whales) as evinced in classical and New Age 

myth, art, dreams, various genres of fiction, and 

human-cetacean encounters, I've collected and analyzed 

the themes in several dozen dreams in which dolphins 

and/or whales played a significant role. 

Before examining the major themes in these dreams, 

however, I will briefly discuss the broader association 

of cetaceans with dreams and the dreamtime, followed by 

an overview of the meanings assigned to cetaceans in 

dream and symbol encyclopedias from the turn of the 

century to the present. 

If you ask a person who has had a waking encounter with a 

dolphin or whale what it was like, one of the most common 

answers you will receive is, "It was just like a dream." 

I personally distinctly recall having this feeling the 

second time I swam with wild dolphins. The thought, "Am I 

dreaming?" kept repeating itself in my mind. 

Also, if you survey book, audiotape, and videotape titles 

about dolphins and whales, you will find several 

containing the word "dream,", such as _Dolphin Dream_, 

_Dolphin Dreaming_, _Dolphin Dreamtime_, _Journey into 

Dolphin Dreamtime_, and _Deepwater Dreams_. The group 

Enigma has a song entitled "The Dream of the Dolphin," 

and the last intriguing line states, "Man is the dream of 

the dolphin." 

Associations with dreams are also common in mythological 

and fictional works with cetacean characters, where you 

will find they communicate with, or influence, humans in 

the dreamtime. I'm reading two books right now, one 

science fiction, the other based on Maori mythology, and 

in each the dolphins and whales contact humans, or 

transport them from place to place, in the dreamtime. 

Dreamtime connections between cetaceans and humans are 

also present in other native people's lore, including 

that of Australian Aborigines, Native Americans, and 

others. 

Why would humans have this response in the presence of 

dolphins and whales, or write about them in relation to 

the dreamtime? 

On the simplest level, unlike us terrestrial humans, 

cetaceans 

exist in the water realm, the realm of ceaseless movement 

and formlessness, a realm with a timeless, dreamlike 

quality. It is also interesting to note that since they 

are conscious breathers, dolphins and whales never sleep 

as we do, as they must remain at least partially vigilant 

to avoid drowning. What they seem to do is rest one half 

of their brain at a time, while the other half remains 

alert enough to breathe and monitor their environment. 

There is also some controversy among scientists about 

whether or not cetaceans themselves dream, with the 

consensus being that they do not, although at least one 

scientist claims to have observed brief periods of REM in 

a captive dolphin. 

What does this imply? To posit an answer to this 

question, one has to leave the realm of science and enter 

the realm of speculation. Some surmise that since 

cetaceans do not sleep in the sense that we do, and 

because of the state an aqueous environment tends to 

induce, they may be in a kind of perpetual state of lucid 

or wakeful dreaming, and perhaps that is one of the 

reasons we tend to experience the sensation of dreaming, 

or altered perception, when in their presence. It is 

interesting to consider that some humans work for years 

to be able to enter at will a state of wakeful dreaming, 

seeing it as a doorway to the higher realms, to the 

dreamtime of the aborigines, and so on, and yet this, or 

something akin to it, may be the constant state of 

dolphins and whales. 

In another vein, sometimes the initial or only contact 

people ever have with cetaceans is in their dreams, and 

it can be life- changing. Rebecca Fitzgerald, who 

facilitates wild dolphin and whale swim expeditions 

through her company Dolphinswim, was working as a 

psychotherapist when she began to dream of "spotted" 

dolphins (which she didn't know existed) in very clear 

water. The dreams recurred for ten nights, first with 

only a couple of dolphins, and then each night more 

appeared until there were uncountable many. The dreams 

suggested to her she would be working with these dolphins 

and taking people out to interact with them. The dreams 

became very intense and insistent, so much so that she 

asked for them to stop. After they ceased, she went to 

the library to look up "spotted" dolphins and found there 

was, in fact, such a species. About four years later, she 

read an article in a Jungian magazine by a psychologist 

doing dolphin therapy with autistic children, and 

observed how dolphins place no expectations on us, 

whereas human therapists inevitably do. She knew 

immediately that taking people out to spend time with 

dolphins was what she wanted to do, quit her 

psychotherapy job, and has been taking people out to swim 

with the same pods of Atlantic spotted dolphins in the 

clear waters of the Bahamas for the past several years. 

With that introduction, let's now take a look at what 

dream and symbol encyclopedias over the past century have 

said about the significance of dolphins and whales in 

dreams. It is interesting to note that in the early part 

of this century, when we knew little about dolphins and 

whales, other than the dangers and difficulty of 

harpooning them from small wooden boats in an unforgiving 

ocean, they were viewed as bad omens in dreams, whereas 

now, given our perception of them as primarily gentle, 

playful, curious, intelligent, cooperative beings, they 

are viewed as very positive, even spiritual signs, 

symbolizing divine or pure qualities, good fortune, and 

transformation. 

Some examples: 

c. 1900 

A dolphin in a dream may symbolize the liability to come 

under a new government, said in the encyclopedia to be 

"not a very good dream"[7]. 

A whale in a dream may symbolize a misunderstanding to be 

cleared up in time, or a delayed wedding[13]. 

c. 1935 

A dolphin in a dream may symbolize loss of a 

sweetheart[5, 9], death of some near relation or friend, 

or pursuits not to one's advantage[9]. If about to 

travel, it means great danger[14]. If a single man or 

woman sees a dolphin from the deck of a boat, he or she 

should guard against the wiles of designing members of 

the opposite sex[12]. 

A whale in a dream may symbolize the threat of a loss of 

property if it approaches or attacks your ship, and/or it 

may throw you into a whirlpool of disasters[11]. If you 

catch a whale on a line, there may be an improvement in 

your relations[12]. 

c. 1970 - present 

A dolphin may symbolize advancement through your own 

mental 

vigor[10]; encouragement to grow without fear; speed and 

prudence[2]; joy and ecstasy; great intelligence[6]; 

god-like qualities or divine light; resurrection and 

salvation of Christ or oneself[2, 6]. 

In mythology, the dolphin is a psychopomp, one who guides 

souls to the afterworld, and is also associated with 

Dionysus, the god of liquids and dissolution. Thus, a 

dolphin in a dream may signal some kind of 

transformation. 

A whale can symbolize the world, the body, and the grave, 

and is an essential symbol of containing and 

concealing[2]. From this flows the dream significance of 

the whale as an omen of protection[11]. If you see the 

tail flukes, it signifies that freedom from worry may 

soon be yours[10]. 

Also related to containment is the Jonah symbology. Being 

swallowed by a whale in a dream signifies a dark period 

in the bowels of nature or a terrifying inversion in 

which you see under the waters of the unconscious, but 

also find the power of the inner world and are born 

anew[1, 3], or transformed. 

This theme of transformation is apparent in native 

people's cetacean myths and in cetacean art as well, so 

it is not surprising that it would be present in dreams. 

The whale may also signify the realm of the feminine in 

dreams, whether the unconscious or the Mother[1, 4], 

because of its enormous cavities[11], and is also the 

symbolic equivalent of the mystic mandorla, or area of 

intersection of the circles of heaven and earth, 

comprising and embracing the opposites of existence[2]. 

(The most significant dream I've ever had occurred over 

two decades ago and contained two orcas tossing a big, 

soft, vinyl-covered ball back and forth between them in 

perfect harmony, and the vinyl covering was in the form 

of the yin-yang symbol. I knew little about the yin-yang 

symbol at the time, but, like Rebecca above, went to the 

library to learn more about it after the dream. It is 

interesting to note that in the course of my recent 

research I've come across more than thirty examples of 

dolphins and/or whales overlayed on, or otherwise 

associated with, the yin-yang symbol. This relates to the 

primary theme I've found associated with them across all 

categories--that of harmony and balance.) 

The whale may also signify a pleasing achievement in 

social or business life, despite much opposition[11]. 

And, finally, the whale may signify spiritual 

magnanimity. It appears in a dream as a form of 

recognition from higher sources[4]. Now, toward the close 

of the twentieth century, it is an honor for a whale or a 

dolphin to appear in one's dreams. 

 

Having taken a brief look at some of the symbolic 

significance attributed to cetaceans in dream and symbol 

encyclopedias, let's turn to the themes one finds in 

actual dreams of dolphins and 

whales. 

 

The most prominent theme in the dreams I've collected is 

that of the dolphin or whale helping the dreamer to 

overcome fear, especially fear of the water/death. Often 

in these dreams, a dolphin or whale will take the dreamer 

either gently or forcefully down into the water, which 

can be frightening, even terrifying, at first. The 

dreamers then find, however, that the dolphin or whale 

protects them, or that they can breathe underwater, and 

that the underwater realm, or the realm of the 

unconscious or emotions, is safe. This newfound ability 

to breathe underwater also relates to the earlier 

discussed symbology of transformation or growth. 

 

A related theme found is that the dolphins or whales 

communicate they'll _always_ be there to protect the 

dreamer. One person always tends to dream of dolphins and 

whales when she is going through a crisis and finds they 

soothe and calm her. 

Many dreamers say they experience a kind of 

deep/wordless/telepathic/profound/reassuring/anciently 

wise communication from dolphins and whales in their 

dreams, and that this communication seems to put them in 

touch with their (the dreamers') deep spiritual nature. 

They awaken from these and other dolphin and whale dreams 

feeling--the most commonly used words are "serene" and 

"peaceful"--but also happy, energized, or blissful. Some 

dreamers are shifted from a gray or depressed state to a 

lighter, happier mood, which many also claim happens when 

meeting a dolphin or whale in the waking state. 

Often there is physical contact by the dolphin or whale 

in a dream, usually somewhere at the head, sometimes at 

chakras, which in every dream I've collected thus far 

results in bliss, heart- opening, etc. 

In some of the dreams, the dreamers become a dolphin or a 

whale and feel what it is like to have a dolphin or whale 

body, but not usually dolphin or whale consciousness. 

They are accepted as a member of the dolphin or whale 

social group and invited to return. 

In one dream, a dolphin was a profound sign of healing 

and fertility, the dreamer becoming pregnant shortly 

thereafter, after many years of infertility. 

Dreamers also tend to receive messages from cetaceans in 

their dreams, or other humans in their dreams give them 

messages about cetaceans. Some examples of messages from 

dolphins or whales include: 

"We come to warn you--about the end of the world." 

"Tell the children this: Tell the children there will be 

a world for them to grow up in. Tell the children this: 

Man is not the only species to determine the fate of the 

earth." 

"Movement is the key to interspecies communication." 

Some examples of messages from humans include: 

"I am going to tell you something very important: You 

must listen to the dolphins." (This fourteen-year-old 

dreamer said this

  
dream, which contained more than this 

statement, was one of the most important he had ever had, 

that his way of thinking completely changed after having 

it, making him kinder and better able to comprehend the 

unity of all species.) 

"Writing data dolphins requires a little metaphor." (This 

was recently said to me by another human in one of my 

dreams.) 

A final prominent theme in the dreams I've collected is 

the beating and/or slaughter of dolphins and whales. This 

image, and those dream messages above about the state of 

the world, all tie in with one strong symbolic aspect of 

cetaceans as found in science fiction and New Age 

mythology--that of dolphins and whales as environmental 

messengers, calling us to take heed of the consequences 

of our actions by observing what it has done and 

continues to do to them, and ultimately to us. 

In summary, dolphins and whales in the dreams I've 

gathered seem primarily to call us to transcend our fear, 

falling out of our mind and into our feeling and 

reconnecting with peace, joy, bliss, and serenity. They 

also, however, call us to take heed of our destructive 

actions and thus mend our relationship with them, 

ourselves, and the planet. 

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Foulsham, 1958. 

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The Lucid Dreamer's Manual 

- Inducing Lucid Dreams - 

A compilation of various Lucid Dreaming techniques. 

by Lee Holmes (Holmes@Cycor.Ca) (Part 2 of 

2) 

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Step 4: Lucid Dream Induction Methods 

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Here is a compilation of a few lucid dream induction 

methods. As mentioned before, if you don't believe in one 

or it doesn't work for you, then simply use another 

method. 

 

 

[Dream Incubation, by the Lucidity Institute] 

1. Formulate your intention Before bed, come up with 

a single phrase or question encapsulating the topic you 

wish to dream about: "I want to visit San Francisco." 

Write the phrase down, and perhaps draw a picture 

illustrating the question. Memorize the phrase and the 

picture (if you have one). If you have a specific action 

you wish to carry out in your desired dream ("I want to 

tell my friend I love her."), be sure to carefully 

formulate it now. Beneath your target phrase, write 

another saying, "When I dream of [the phrase], I will 

remember that I am dreaming." 

2. Go to bed Without doing anything else, go 

immediately to bed and turn out the light. 

3. Focus on your phrase and intention to become 

lucid Recall your phrase or the image you drew. Visualize 

yourself dreaming about the topic and becoming lucid in 

the dream. If there is something you want to try in the 

dream, also visualize doing it once you are lucid. 

Meditate on the phrase and your intention to become 

lucid in a dream about it until you fall asleep. Don't 

let any other thoughts come between thinking about your 

topic and falling asleep. If your thoughts stray, just 

return to thinking about your phrase and becoming lucid. 

4. Pursue your intention in the lucid dream When 

in a lucid dream about your topic carry out your 

intention. Ask the question you wish to ask, seek ways to 

express yourself, try your new behavior, or explore your 

situation. Be sure to notice your feelings and be 

observant of all details of the dream. 

5. When you have achieved your goal, remember to 

awaken and recall the dream. 

 

[Chakra Method: From "Treatise on Lucid Dreaming" by 

Robert Bruce] 

Sit in a chair, or lie down, and relax your whole body. 

Starting with the feet, tense them and relax them. 

Continue this with calves, thighs, hips, stomach, chest, 

arms, neck and face. Go over this a few times until you 

feel completely relaxed. 

Breath Awareness 

Breath awareness will help to calm and focus your mind 

and awareness. Breathe deeply and slowly. Be aware of the 

breath entering and leaving your body. Feel it coming in 

and feel it going out. Focus your whole attention on your 

lungs and the breathing process and it will help to 

occupy your surface mind. Gently push any intruding 

thoughts away as they begin, before they distract you. By 

feeling your breath coming in and out you are shifting 

your awareness into your chest. 

Mental Hands 

The mental hands technique will train you to shift your 

point of awareness to other parts of your body. This will 

also give you greater body awareness which is very 

important in lucid dreaming. 

Calm your mind and relax your body. Imagine you have a 

pair of invisible hands. Feel your awareness in these 

hands, just the same as with breath awareness where you 

concentrate your awareness on your lungs. Stroke yourself 

slowly with these hands, start at your feet go on up 

through your legs and through the rest of your body. Try 

and FEEL these imaginary hands relaxing and soothing you. 

Become aware of and use these hands as you are doing the 

relaxation exercise. Start at the feet, tensing and 

relaxing muscles. Feel your mental hands in these muscles 

as they tense and relax them. Work your way through your 

whole body this way. Feel your body relaxing at the touch 

of them. Your point of awareness is in these hands. You 

are shifting your point of consciousness into different 

parts of your body as you do this. 

 

 

 

Energy Raising 

When you are familiar with your new mental hands, use 

them to pull energy up from your feet and through your 

legs to the base chakra. Imagine you are gripping energy 

and pulling it up through you. Combine this with your 

breathing. Draw it up through you with the inhale and 

hold it in place on the exhale. Do this over and over 

again for at least a few minutes. 

This is the natural path of the energy that flows through 

you. With practice you will actually feel this energy 

tingling and surging through you. 

Chakras: These are situated at: 1. The base of the spine 

(between the anus and the genitals) 2. The spleen 

(slightly below the belly button) 3. The solar plexus (1 

hand-span above the belly button) 4. The heart (centre of 

the chest) 5. The base of the throat. 6. The centre of 

the forehead. 7. Crown ( whole top of your head). They 

are best imagined as roughly the size of your hand, 

except for the crown chakra which is much larger and 

covers the whole of the head above the hairline. 

Chakra Stimulation 

Chakras are transformers that convert raw energy into 

energy of a different type. During these exercises your 

chakras will be pumping energy into your astral body. 

Pull energy up through your legs with your mental hands 

to your base chakra. Use your mental hands to open this 

chakra. Imagine you are tearing open a bread roll where 

the chakra is. Draw this energy up to the next one and 

open it, and on to the next one and so on. Repeat this 

over a few times. You may not feel much at first, but 

with practise you will feel a tingling surge of energy 

like adrenaline and a fluttering or pulsing under your 

skin as you do this. 

Even if you don't feel anything you are still raising 

some energy. When I first started using my chakras, many 

years ago, I didn't feel anything happening in them for 

several months. Many people report feeling some sensation 

in them the first time they do this. Some people seem to 

have more natural chakra activity than others. 

Closing The Chakras 

After any work on opening the chakras it is Very 

Important to close them unless you are going to use them, 

or go to sleep shortly after. During sleep they will 

close naturally after an hour or so. This closing is 

especially important if you feel strong activity in them. 

If you leave a chakra open during normal day to day 

activity, you can bleed energy. This will can fatigue and 

health problems. To close them, simply reverse the 

process until no activity is felt. Feel your mental hands 

closing them and push the energy back down. 

Stop and Check 

Keep checking your muscles for any tensing during the 

energy raising and chakra stimulation exercises and 

re-relax as needed. Your muscles will automatically try 

and respond as you draw energy up through you. Remember, 

this is all mental. Your body must stay calm and relaxed 

throughout this. 

Practise 

The relaxation, breath awareness and mental hands 

exercises should, ideally, be carried out daily. They can 

be done anywhere and anytime you have a few minutes to 

spare. You will, in time, condition your body to respond 

quickly and easily. Every time you do these, keep in mind 

your intention of having lucid dreams. Whatever your 

lucid dreaming trigger is, keep this in mind while you 

are doing these exercises. 

To Prepare For Lucid Dreaming 

Do the relaxation exercise and use breath awareness to 

calm your mind. Raise energy through you and stimulate 

your chakras for five or ten minutes, or until you start 

feeling heavy. 

This heaviness happens when you enter a trance. The 

trance state is brought on by deep relaxation. In a 

trance you are very open to self hypnosis and suggestion. 

This is the best time to program yourself with the 

trigger to become lucid in a dream. In the trance state 

you may feel like you are paralysed but you can usually 

move if you try, its just a big effort. If you can't, do 

your lucid dream trigger affirmations and go to sleep. 

Note: Once you reach the trance stage, stop any further 

energy raising or chakra stimulation and proceed with the 

trigger programming stage. 

Do your normal affirmations that remind you to become 

lucid during your dreams and remember all when you wake 

up. Say to yourself, " I must remember to look at my 

watch" or " I must remember to look at my hands" Say this 

over and over to yourself until you fall asleep. 

Note: These exercises are best done, one at a time, apart 

from the combined energy raising - chakra opening one, 

lying on your back. 

When you have completed them and are ready for dreaming, 

assume your normal sleeping position for the night. 

 

[Symbol Trigger method, by Swami Vimanananda] 

 

1 Give up a favorite food or drink for 1 month, 

telling the mind : I'm doing this for more 

awareness during dreams. 

2. Fast monthly, on new moon. This can be a day of 

eating fruit only, just juices, or pure water, 

depending on what you are used to. This tells your 

subconscious that you are serious about paying 

attention to the 'internal' world. According to Yoga, 

fasting opens the Moon chakra, which is the 

gateway to the Dream world. 

3. Visualize some symbol while falling asleep, and 

look for that symbol in your dreams. That symbol 

will trigger lucidity. The Tibetans use a small, 

white, glowing letter 'A' . 

[Auto-Suggestion method, by Peg Steigerwald] 

One effective technique for planting 

auto-suggestions is the following: while falling asleep, 

prop your arm so that when you do fall asleep it will hit 

you in the head (lightly). When your arm hits your head, 

it will wake you slightly and enable you to plant many 

auto-suggestions without falling asleep. If you plant a 

suggestion related to lucid dreaming, your chances of 

having one that night are much higher. 

 

[External Supplements for Lucidity, by Bob] 

The "Mega Brain" tapes that are easily found in 

stores offer another type of Lucidity induction. By out- 

putting certain beat frequencies from the speakers, a 

third "phantom frequency" is created by the brain. Two 

tapes from this set which help in attaining lucidity are 

"High Coherence" and "Sound Sleep", both by Kelly 

Hutchinson. Although these tapes do not induce lucidity, 

they assist in attaining it. 

Another supplement which aids in lucid dreaming 

is known as the DMAE/H3 liquid supplement, sold by 

TwinLabs. This supplement helps to clear the mind, and 

enables you to recall dreams much more vividly. 

 

[Use of pot to attain lucidity, by Vossen] 

1) Get yourself woken up 2 or 3 hours before you would 

have had your usual amount of sleep. 

2) Have a small meal, containing a fair amount of 

sugar and milk , I take a cup of yoghurt mixed with some 

pieces of fruit and a sandwich. 

3) SMOKE about 0.1 to 0.2 gram of a really high 

quality hasjies, more specific get the best hasjies you 

can lay your hands and smoke the LEAST AMOUNT NECESSARY 

to feel it having an effect. The intention is NOT to get 

yourself well and truly stoned, because if you do, you 

won't remember anything of your dreams. The idea is 

rather to have your mind to be just slightly tickled. 

4) Empty your bowels. 

5) Go to bed again. 

The effect of point 3) is that you will be able to 

step into a dream with much greater ease . 

Another possible effect of point 3) is of course: 

getting arrested, This is why you should live in the 

Netherlands because over hear you can walk around with a 

maximum of 30 grams of the stuff without the government 

being nasty. 

 

[Music as a link to lucid dreams, by Steven Lance] 

While reading material relating to lucid 

dreaming, or browsing alt.dreams.lucid, have a certain 

song playing repeatedly. As you fall asleep, keep the 

song playing in the background low enough to allow you to 

sleep. This method seems to form a link between your 

subconscious, the music, and lucid dreaming. If the music 

is playing while you are asleep, your subconscious can 

still dwell on the idea of lucid dreaming much longer 

than you consciously could. 

 

[Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams (MILD) Technique, by 

Stephen LaBerge] 

1. Setup dream recall. Set your mind to awaken 

from dreams and recall them. When you awaken 

from a dream, recall it as completely as you can. 

2. Focus your intent. 

While returning to sleep, concentrate 

single-mindedly on your intention to remember to 

recognize that you're dreaming. Tell yourself: "Next 

time I'm dreaming, I want to remember I'm dreaming." 

Try to feel that you really mean it. Focus your thoughts 

on this idea alone. If you find yourself thinking 

about anything else, let it go and bring your mind 

back to your intention to remember. 

3. See yourself becoming lucid. 

At the same time, imagine that you are back in the 

dream you just woke from (or another one you have 

had recently if you didn't remember a dream on 

awakening), but this time you recognize that it is a 

dream. Look for a dreamsign--something in the dream 

that demonstrates plainly that it is a dream (see 

NightLight 1.3 & 1.4 for more about dreamsigns). 

When you see it say to yourself: "I'm dreaming!" and 

continue your fantasy. Imagine yourself carrying out your 

plans for your next lucid dream. For example, if you 

want to fly in your lucid dream, imagine yourself 

flying when you come to the point in your fantasy 

that you "realize" you are dreaming. 

4. Repeat until your intention is set. 

Repeat steps 2 and 3 until your intention is set; 

then let yourself fall asleep. If, while falling 

asleep, you find yourself thinking of anything else, 

repeat the procedure so that the last thing in your 

mind before falling asleep is your intention to remember 

to recognize the next time you are dreaming. 

 

[Lucid Dream Induction Devices (Cut from Lucidity 

Institute FAQ)] 

The Lucidity Institute offers several electronic devices 

that help people achieve lucid dreams. They were 

developed through laboratory research at Stanford 

University by LaBerge, Levitan, and others. The basic 

principle behind all of these devices is as follows: The 

primary task confronting someone who wishes to have a 

lucid dream is to remember that intention while in a 

dream. We often remember to do things while awake through 

reminders: notes, strings around fingers, alarms, and so 

on. However, such reminders are of little use in dreams, 

although there are other kinds of reminders that are in 

fact helpful. The observation that some sensory events 

are occasionally incorporated into ongoing dreams (like 

your clock radio or the neighbor's saw appearing 

disguised in your dream rather than awakening you) led to 

the idea of using a particular sensory stimulus as a cue 

to a dreamer to become lucid. For example, a tape 

recording of a voice saying "You're dreaming" played 

while a person is in REM sleep will sometimes come 

through into the dream and remind the person to become 

lucid. In our research we settled on using flashing 

lights as a lucidity cue, because they had less tendency 

to awaken people than sound and were easy to apply. The 

DreamLight and NovaDreamer devices also have a sound cue 

option, which is useful for people who sleep more deeply. 

The DreamLight, DreamLink, and NovaDreamer all work by 

giving users flashing light cues when they are dreaming. 

Users work with their devices to find an intensity and 

length of cue that enters their dreams without awakening 

them. In addition, device users should practice mental 

exercises while awake for the best preparation for 

recognizing the light cues when they appear in dreams. 

The devices are based around a soft, comfortable sleep 

mask, which contains the flashing lights. The DreamLight 

and NovaDreamer detect the rapid eye movements of REM 

sleep, when the wearer is likely to be dreaming, and give 

cues when the level of eye movement activity is high 

enough. The DreamLink lacks the eye movement detection 

circuitry; the user sets its timer to trigger the cues at 

times likely to coincide with REM periods. 

These lucid dream induction devices offer a second method 

of lucid dream stimulation. This method arose out of the 

discovery that while sleeping with the DreamLight, people 

frequently dreamed that they awakened wearing the device, 

and pressed the button on the front of the mask to start 

the "delay," a feature that disables cues while you are 

drifting off to sleep. Ordinarily, the button would cause 

a beep to tell you that you had successfully pressed it. 

However, people were reporting that the button was not 

working in the middle of the night. Actually, they were 

dreaming that they were awakening and pressing the 

button, and the button did not work because it was a 

dream version of the DreamLight. Dream versions of 

devices are notorious for not working normally. Once 

people were advised that failure of the button in the 

middle of the night was a sign that they were probably 

dreaming, they were able to use this "dreamsign" reliably 

to become lucid during "false awakenings" with the 

DreamLight. This "reality test" button turned out to be 

so useful that it became an important part of all the 

lucid dream induction devices developed by the Lucidity 

Institute. Research suggests that about half of the lucid 

dreams stimulated by the devices result from using the 

button for reality tests. 

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Step 5: I'm lucid now but... 

============================ 

[Dream Spinning, by Stephen LaBerge] 

If you find yourself loosing your precious 

lucidity during a dream, the problem is often remedied by 

"dream spinning". When you find the dream fading, spin 

around as you did when you were a child trying to get 

dizzy. (You will not get dizzy from dream spinning 

because your physical body is not spinning around). 

Remind yourself, "The next scene will be a dream." When 

you stop spinning, if it is not obvious that you are 

dreaming, do a reality test. Even if you think you are 

awake, you may be surprised to find that you are still 

dreaming! 

[Focal Point method, by Dr. Paul Tholey] 

This method had actually been proposed by Dr. 

Paul Tholey of Germany as a technique for causing 

awakening from lucid dreams. This was to focus visual 

attention on a single point in the dream and hold it 

their until the dream ended. The experiment presented 

this behavior as another dream prolonging technique, as a 

way of testing the power of suggestion in the 

effectiveness of actions meant to prolong dreams, and as 

a test of the verity of Tholey's idea. 

[Vocal method, by Stephen LaBerge] 

When you find yourself loosing lucidity, 

continually remind yourself that you are dreaming by 

repeating phrases like "This is a dream!...This is a 

dream!...This is a dream!" or "I'm dreaming...I'm 

dreaming...I'm dreaming ...." This self-reminding can be 

spoken "out-loud" in the dream, if necessary. Otherwise 

it's better to say it silently to avoid the repetition 

becoming the predominant feature of the dream. 

[Awakening at Will from a Lucid Dream] 

If the secret to preventing premature awakening 

is to maintain active participation in the dream, the 

secret to awakening at will is to withdraw your attention 

and participation from the dream. Think, daydream, or 

otherwise withdraw your attention from the dream, and you 

are very likely to awaken. This method lends itself to 

situations where you wish to fully remember intricate 

details of the dream, such as lyrics to a song or results 

from an experiment. Dreamer beware, however, that 

awakening from a lucid dream more often than not causes 

false awakenings. If you wish to wake from a dream, make 

sure you are truly awake from them too or else your 

efforts will be lost! 

Lee Holmes (Holmes@Cycor.Ca) 

 

 

 

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BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA, JULY 1996 

-NEW FINDINGS ON THE MEANING AND CLINICAL USE OF DREAMS 

-DREAMS, CREATIVITY AND THE ARTS - ASD XIII 

-DREAMING IN CYBERSPACE, SHAMANISM, AIDS, O.J. AND MORE 

AT THIS -YEAR'S ASD CONFERENCE IN JULY ! 

-CONTINUING EDUCATION (CU) CREDITS AT ASD XIII 

-ONLINE DREAM COURSE(s) IN JUNE 

-DREAM TALK RADIO SHOW 

-COMMUNAL MAGIC: A GROUP DREAMING PROJECT 

-ELECTRIC DREAMS BULLETIN BOARD 

-CONTENT ANALYSIS OF DREAMS - NEW SAT Program 

GLOBAL DREAMING NEWS 

 

******* SPECIAL HELP FOR DREAM CONTENT ANALYSIS STUDENTS 

******** 

DreamSAT 

Automated Dream Data Entry System and 

Statistical Analysis Tool 

DreamSAT is a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet that can make 

your life much easier if you use the Hall/Van 

de Castle system of quantitative content analysis. For 

more detailed information about DreamSAT, read 

the documentation at 

http://zzyx.ucsc.edu/~dreams/DreamSAT/ 

******* ADVANCED INTENSIVE: THE ANALYTICAL PSYCHOLOGY OF 

DREAMS ******* 

The CG Jung Foundation of New York will be presenting a 

summer program on the Analytical Psychology of Dreams, 

July 14-19, 1996. This intensive features workshops, 

seminars and field trips for five full, stimulating days 

of advanced dream study. Topics include: 

- Archetypal Amplifications of Animal Imagery 

- Dreams as Reflections of the Interpersonal Field of 

Analysis 

- Drama and Dreams, including a trip to the theatre 

- The Ego-Self Relationship in Dreams 

- The Eye of the Dreamer 

For more information, or to register for the course, 

contact: 

Janet M. Careswell, Director The CG Jung Foundation of 

New York 

28 East 39th Street New York, NY 10016 (212) 697-6430 

 

 

******** DREAM WAVE BREAKS ON THE WEB ******* 

Dream Wave is a new site on the web designed for reverie 

and revelation about dreams. Through the Muse and Gold 

pages, you can learn to discern your most valuable 

dreams, separate the gold from the dross, and fashion 

that gold into something of beauty and substance. Visit 

this unique new site at: 

http://www.dreamwv.com 

********* DREAM WEB SITE UPDATES ********** 

Somnial Times' reports a web page URL change. It can now 

be viewed at: 

http://www.iit.edu/~banymic/somnial 

I couldn't get through, but I had trouble at the older 

address as well: 

http://snoopy.acc.iit.edu:80/~banymic/somnial/ 

********** 

DreamNet has added a page with info on the new 900 number 

Dream Education & Information Line: 

The purpose of our 900 line: to encourage you to begin 

taking advantage of the valuable information presented 

each night in your nighttime dreams. The options listed 

on this page are among common questions and concerns most 

individuals have about their dreams and about dreams, in 

general. 

http://waking.com/waking/dream/ 

Phone 1-900-988-2122 Ext. 6358 

$2.99 min./ 18+/Procall (602) 954-7420 

Procall (602) 954-7420 

********** 

DreamLink now has the capacity to run REAL TIME Video- 

conferencing dream groups. 

http://www.iag.net:80/~hutchib/.dream/ 

********** 

How about bulletin board for Dream Chat? Try Angie's: 

http://www.sonic.net/~williams/wwwboard/dreamboard.html 

********** 

For a list of lists of dream sites online, try the 

Electric Dreams Links Page: 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~mettw/edreams/links.html 

You can ADD you links directly or send them in. 

 

 

********* CONSCIOUS DREAMING, A SPIRITUAL PATH 

********* 

Robert Moss's new book, *Conscious Dreaming: A Spiritual 

Path for Everyday Life* has just been released, and 

includes considerable content on lucid dreaming, as well 

as Australian aboriginal and other shamamanic dream 

practices adapted for use by the dreamer. 

 

 

******** DREAMS AND THE TENSION OF OPPOSITES ******** 

The C.G. Jung Institute-Boston is pleased to announce 

its annual Summer Intensive Program, Living With the 

Tension of the Opposites, June 30 through July 14, 1996. 

The aim of the summer intensive program is to provide a 

careful introduction to the psychology of C.G. Jung and 

to suggest its application to everyday life. Focusing on 

"The Opposites," a course in the basic principles of 

Analytical Psychology will provide an overview of Jung's 

concepts and outline the connection to the courses that 

follow: Dream Work, Interpretation of Fairy Tales, Music, 

Movement and Body Awareness, Mythology, Psychological 

Types, The Family, and Pictures from the Unconscious. 

Courses will be taught by the Institute's faculty. 

The summer intensive is open to anyone interested in 

Jungian 

psychology and is especially appropriate for those 

working in 

counseling, education, medicine, psychotherapy, religion, 

psychology, and social work. It is strongly recommended 

for those who are considering training in Analytical 

Psychology. 

The program is limited to twenty participants. The 

tuition fee 

is $1,450 before June 1, $1,500 after June 1, and $1,550 

for on site registration. 

The Institute is located in the heart of the historical 

Back Bay, 

providing easy access to the rich cultural life of 

Boston. For further information and application forms or 

brochures, please contact: 

The C.G.Jung Institute, Boston 

283 Commonwealth Avenue 

Boston, MA 02115 

Telephone: (617) 267-5984 

E-mail address: CGJUNGBOS1@aol.com. 

********** FUTURE OF DREAMING ONLINE - ASD BULLETIN BOARD 

TALK ********** 

When is dream sharing appropriate online and when is it 

a violation or scam? Can clinical dreamwork be done 

online? Who gets to decide? Come discuss these and 

other topics on the ASD bulletin board 

http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/ 

Select "Bulletin Board" 

 

 

********* ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF DREAMS CONFERENCE, 

BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA, JULY 1996 ******* 

The latest discoveries on dreaming will be presented at a 

five-day international conference of the Association for 

the Study of Dreams at the Claremont Hotel and Spa in 

Berkeley, California, USA. Diverse conference offerings 

include scientific presentations by the world's foremost 

dream researchers and authors, as well as workshops and 

seminars that feature literacy, anthropological and 

cinematic perspectives on dreaming, and 

innovative approaches to using dreams in psychotherapy 

and healing. In addition to over a hundred separate 

events, the conference concludes with a Dream Ball to 

which participants come dressed as their favorite or most 

dreaded dream character or symbol. For more information 

about the whole range of events and activities, as well 

as to learn how to register, visit the ASD's home page 

at: 

http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/ 

And get the latest Press Releases at 

http://www.best.com/~rcwilk/asd-13/asd13new.htm 

or email your request to: asdreams@aol.com 

 

****** NEW FINDINGS ON THE MEANING AND CLINICAL USE OF 

DREAMS ******* 

New findings on the meaning and clinical use of dreams by 

European, Canadian and American researchers will be 

revealed in a series of presentations and workshops on 

Content Analysis of dreams, a scientific technique for 

studying the meaning of dreams at this year's ASD 

Conference in Berkeley, CA. 

William Domhoff, Ph.D., author of *Finding the Meaning in 

Dreams* and his colleagues and students will provide 

training on content analysis and demonstrate its 

applications for studying personality and the nature of 

dreaming. 

Ernest Hartmann, M.D., eminent dreams researcher, will 

chair a symposium on July 10 that probes the fundamental 

nature and purpose of dreaming. 

Psychologist Alan Siegel, Ph.D., will coordinate a 

two-day continuing education seminar featuring the latest 

research and clinical techniques for helping survivors of 

disaster, abuse, violence and war who suffer from 

recurring nightmares as part of Post-Traumatic Stress 

Disorder. 

July 12, an all-day series of workshops entitled *Trauma, 

Nightmares and Recovery* will feature Barry Krakow, M.D., 

on nightmares and victims of violence. Psychotherapist 

Carol Warner, M.S.W., will explore dreams, sexual abuse 

and memory. Alan Siegel, Ph.D., will present emerging 

findings on children's dreams and a follow-up of his 

study of the dreams of survivors of 

the Oakland Firestorm of 1991. Johanna King, Ph.D., will 

speak about dreamwork and the treatment of trauma. 

Nearly a century after the publication of Freud's 

*Interpretation of Dreams*, contemporary psychotherapists 

still view dreams as the royal road to the unconscious 

and emotional healing. A panel of dream experts (Milton 

Kramer, M.D., John Beebe, M.D., and James Fosshage, 

Ph.D.,) from differing schools (psychoanalytic, Jungian, 

self psychology and cognitive) will debate current 

theories and therapy techniques. 

******** DREAMS, CREATIVITY AND THE ARTS ********* 

A major theme at this year's ASD conference in Berkeley 

July 9-13, is the interface between dreaming and 

creativity. Researcher and psychologist, Veronica Tonay, 

will reveal unique symbolism and characteristics of 

creative people's dreams. June Singer, M.D., will 

lecture on *Dreaming the Dream Onward: Adventures in 

Active Imagination*. 

The interface between the world of dreams and visual 

imagery will be explored in a juried art exhibit 

featuring a reception with the artists on July 10. A July 

12 evening seminar will explore the connection between 

film-making and dreaming, and will feature an appearance 

by screenwriter Kathleen Broyles and sleep researcher 

James Pagel, M.D. 

 

******** DREAMING IN CYBERSPACE, SHAMANISM, AIDS, O.J. 

AND MORE AT THIS YEAR'S ASD CONFERENCE IN JULY !******** 

The ancient art of dream interpretation is flourishing in 

Cyberspace and a networking center will broadcast parts 

of the ASD conference on the World Wide Web and feature 

simultaneous chats with dream researchers and aficionados 

who can't attend the conference. Continuous exhibits and 

demonstrations will teach participants how to get online 

and network with a burgeoning community of other dreamers 

world-wide. Richard Wilkerson, 

editor of Electric Dreams, will guide both novices and 

experienced Internet users. 

More ASD information: 

http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/ 

and on the Conference: 

http://www.best.com/~rcwilk/asd-13/asd13new.htm 

Also appearing will be Jeremy Taylor who hosts a daily 

dream show on America Online weekdays at 9a.m. EST. 

The symbolism and healing power of dream work for AIDS 

patients will be explored by Jungian Analyst Robert 

Bosnak, who is the author of the newly released book 

*Tracks in the Wilderness of Dreaming* and an earlier 

book *Dreaming with an AIDS Patient*. 

The universality of the dreaming experience will be 

highlighted by anthropological and cross-cultural 

seminars and by participants from Europe 

and Asia. Australian aboriginal and other shamanic dream 

practices have been adapted by Robert Moss as part of his 

new book *Conscious Dreaming*. In addition, a debate on 

the validity of Senoi Tribe dream practices and a number 

of panel discussions on Native American views on dreams 

will occur. 

The spiritual dimensions of dreams will be touched upon 

by religious studies scholar, Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D., and 

by psychologist and author Edward Hoffman, Ph.D., who 

will present a workshop on the Jewish mystical tradition 

and dreamwork. Steven LaBerge, noted lucid dreaming 

researcher will speak about dreams and consciousness. 

Even the legal aspects of dreaming will be 

reviewed in a presentation on sleep, dreams and the law 

by professor Carol Schrier Rupprecht, Ph.D., and her 

attorney son, Whitney Rupprecht, J.D., which will focus 

on the testimony of dream experts and the admissibility 

of dreams as evidence in current legal cases such as the 

O.J. Simpson trial. 

 

*********** CONTINUING EDUCATION (CU) CREDITS AT ASD 

XIII ********** 

ASD will be offering Continuing Education (CE) credits at its 

conferences. For professionals in the mental health, health, 

and education fields who attend the international and regional 

conferences, selected parts of the program will now offer CE 

credits. At Conference XIII in Berkeley, workshops and 

seminars eligible for CE credits are marked CE TRACK in the 

blue pre-program brochure and in the program guide that will be 

handed out at the conference. 

For more information, see the web page 

http://www.best.com/~rcwilk/asd-13/ceunits.htm 

Changes & updates to the CE TRACK are posted on the ASD 

Homepage on the WWW. 

http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/ 

Select "Bulletin Board" 

For further information, contact ASD Central Office at (7030 

242 0062 leave a message or fax at (703) 242 8888. Also for 

IACET information, they can be contacted at: IACET, 1200 19th 

Street NW, Suite 300, Washington, DC 20036-2412 Phone (202) 857 

1122 or FAX (202)-223 4579. 

 

*********** ONLINE DREAM COURSES IN JUNE ********** 

#1 

Author and dream researcher, Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D. will 

offer an online Internet Dream class starting in June. 

For more information, check out the web site: 

Unlocking the Secret of Your Dreams 

Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D. 

An Internet course from Grant MacEwan Community College 

Unlocking the Secret of Your Dreams is a noncredit 

introductory 

course that is delivered on the World Wide Web. The 

course consists of five lessons which teach you to 

interpret and work with your own dreams, both alone and 

in an electronic group session. Each lesson is 

accompanied by an assignment where you will put what you 

have learned into practice, and answer a questionnaire 

about your dream experiences. You will receive feedback 

on the completed assignment the following week. 

Throughout the course you will have access to a student 

bulletin board where you can share your ideas and 

impressions about dreams with others enrolled in the 

class as well as an active dialogue with the instructor. 

You can find out more information about the class as well 

as register for it at: 

http://www.outreach.org/dreams 

Enrollment is limited so please register soon. 

The course runs for six weeks (one lessons/assignment 

takes two 

weeks) beginning Monday, June 17, 1996 through Sunday, 

July 28, 

1996. This $129 value is being offered at a low 

introductory price of $39 (US) or $49 (Canadian). 

********** 

#2 

General Editor of Electric Dreams and Project Coordinator 

for DreamGate, the International Internet Dream Community 

Center, Richard Wilkerson, is opening the 8th section of 

an online Internet Dream class starting June 1st. 

Introduction to Dream Sharing in Cyberspace. 

Richard Wilkerson, rcwilk@aol.com 

An Internet course from DreamGate. 

Cyber- Dream Sharing is a noncredit introductory 

course that includes 20 e-mail essays on dreamwork from 

Ancient Times to Modern Cyberspace, as well as dream 

labs, groups and meetings in all Internet forums, 

including e-mail dream groups, IRC Chat channels, Web 

Bulletin Board discussions and experimental venues. 

 

You can find the Syllabus for the Class at 

http://users.aol.com/rcwilk/private/dg-1.htm 

(Select Dream Class) 

 

The course begins Tuesday, June 3rd and is $100.00, but 

is at a special Intro price for Electric Dreams 

Subscribers of $10.00 (US) Snail mail. Late comers 

welcome if you don't mind getting several lessons at one 

time. 

 

To register, Send to Richard Wilkerson at rcwilk@aol.com 

"Yes, I'd love to be in the June Dream Sharing Class - 

put my name on the list and send me the registration 

address!" 

********** DREAM TALK RADIO SHOW ******* 

*Dreams, Another Way of Knowing* is a weekly dream-talk 

show on public radio station KAZU 90.3 in Pacific Grove, 

California. Each Wednesday night at 7 pm, listeners are 

encouraged to call in and share their dreams, and to work 

with the host in understanding what those dreams mean for 

them. In addition, interviews with other researchers and 

authors are regularly featured. The 

host, Kathleen Sullivan, has been a practicing 

dreamworker for over 15 years, and leads classes, 

workshops and dreamgroups in the Monterey Bay region. 

 

******* COMMUNAL MAGIC: A GROUP DREAMING PROJECT ******** 

Although the focus at the 1996 ASD conference is on 

meeting with fellow dreamers, you can participate in 

Communal Magic whether you will be physically present in 

Berkeley, California or not. Just keep track of your 

dreams for the next few months. Conference dreams, flying 

dreams, or dreams about fellow dreamers are being 

collected. They will be posted on a wall mural called the 

*Flying Carpet* which includes not only dreams, but 

poetry, 

graffiti and art work. There are dreaming dates, waking 

meetings and Cyberspace encounters planned -- you can 

dream, or create art work based upon your dreams. In 

group dreaming, the most important question is not, did I 

time it right, but does that dream have a special social 

flavor? 

If you are interested in participating in Communal Magic, 

send your dreams, with title, date and your full name (or 

pseudonym)to: 

Dream Flights 

1083 Harvest Meadow Court 

San Jose, CA 95136 

USA 

or email to: caseyflyer@aol.com 

Deadline for regular mail submissions is July 1. From 

July 9-13, during the conference itself, dreams can be 

e-mailed to caseyflyer@aol.com or faxed to the Claremont 

Hotel at 510) 848-6208 7am-6pm PDT weekdays, and 8am-1pm 

Saturday. Send to the attention of Richard Wilkerson (if 

your last name begins with A-M) or Linda Lane Magallon 

(if last name begins with N-Z). 

 

******* ELECTRIC DREAMS BULLETIN BOARD ****** 

For those of you who haven't visited our web page 

recently Electric Dreams has launched a Bulletin Board. 

This is the place (we hope) where our online friends and 

visitors will be able to post information about research 

projects, introduce dialogue on current events or topics, 

share news and calendar events, or just express 

themselves in whatever way seems most appropriate. Drop 

on by and drop a line soon at: 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~mettw/edreams/home.html 

 

 

 

CALENDAR 

Time is relative in the dream world, but not so in our 

waking life -- and to help bridge that gap, Electric 

Dreams will be presenting a monthly calendar of 

dream-related activities, events, classes, exhibits, 

workshops or any other interested occurrences in digest 

form. If you'd like to share what's 

happening in your local area for upcoming issues, please 

email your news and events to Peggy Coats, Calendar and 

News Director, at <pcoats@cruzio.com> 

 

Jun 1 USA: Santa Cruz, California 

Dreamwork and Creativity Workshop 

Christine Boyer, 408) 427.9861 

Jun 10 USA: Berkeley, California 

Ass'n for the Study of Dreams Conference 

Preview at Gaia Bookstore, 1400 Shattuck 

510) 548-4178 

Jun 22-23 USA: San Pablo, CA 

Dream Drawings, Paintings & Collages by 

Diane Rusnak 

Pro Arts Open Studio, 1306 Marin Avenue 

510) 232-7612 

Jun 30-Jul 14 USA: Boston, Massachusetts 

Intensive: The Tension of Opposites 

CG Jung Institute 

(617) 267-5984 E-mail: 

CGJUNGBOS1@aol.com. 

Jul 1 Last day to send in dreams, poetry, artwork for 

the Flying Carpet 

via regular mail. caseyflyer@aol.com 

Jul 9-13 USA: Berkeley, California 

Ass'n for the Study of Dreams Conference 

Alan Siegel, 510) 527-7929 email: 

dreamsdr@aol.com 

Rita Dwyer, 703) 242-8888 email: 

asdreams@aol.com 

http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/ 

 

Jul 11 Internet Relay Chat (IRC) 

Live from the ASD Conference 

7:30-9:30pm Pacific Daylight Time 

select #FlyByNight using your IRC software 

Jul 12 Compuserve Online Live at the ASD 

Conference 

7:30-10:00pm Pacific Daylight Time 

Choose Services, Go, Newage, New Age B 

Forum, Conference, Enter Room, Dream Studio. 

Jul 14-19 USA: New York, New York 

The Analytical Psychology of Dreams 

CG Jung Foundation, 212) 697-6430 

 

 

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DREAM WHEEL: AN INSIDE LOOK 

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Welcome to this special section of Electric Dreams! We 

routinely run online dream groups via email and thought 

that our readers would enjoy seeing what exactly happens 

in these "Dream Wheels", as we call them. The following 

is a Dream Wheel from earlier this year along with some 

history about our online dream groups and some notes on 

the process in general. Following the Dream Wheel you 

will find descriptions of some of the new changes that 

make joining and participating in a Dream Wheel even 

easier! 

 

BRIEF HISTORY: 

In 1995 I was looking for some way to give more attention 

to the dreams that we were sharing in the Electric Dreams 

community and found (or did you find me?) John Herbert's 

AOL Seniornet bulletin board groups on dreams. He was 

using a variation of the Ullman/Zimmerman process that is 

widely used by Jeremy Taylor and many other groups and 

individuals in the Association for the Study of Dreams. 

The process was a delight and I imported it to Electric 

Dreams and modified it for e-mail. (See Below for the 

process) The first round robin series were very popular, 

but an administrative nightmare. See the Electric Dreams 

Web site: 

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~mettw/edreams/home.html 

for a copy of one of these groups. In the round robin, 

we had one file which we passed around and added 

comments, questions and replies before passing it along 

to the next member. Take my word for it, don't try this. 

Jay Vinton suggested simply creating a small mail list 

where everyone would keep the whole list and always mail 

to the whole list, thereby creating a group feeling and 

effect. These work pretty well and they are easy to start 

and very inexpensive to run. 

-- 

Richard Wilkerson 

 

 

PERMISSION TO RE-PRINT AND NOTES ON ANONYMOUS MAILING: 

"Island" has given permission to publish her dream on 

Electric Dreams. The names of the participants have all 

been changed. Richard's name has been left on the process 

notes for the sake of clarity. Generally in the 

invitation everyone is asked to handle the level of 

anonymity on their own. If a member feels the need for 

more anonymity than is provided by a pen name and e-mail 

address, they can use what's usually called an e-mail re- 

mailer. A free account can be set up. Using this account 

email can be sent and received through an anonymous 

address, thereby protecting the sender's identity. 

 

TO GET INFORMATION on anon re-mailing , send the 

following message: 

To: help@anon.penet.fi 

Subject: get anon help file (automatic, doesn't matter 

what subject is) 

Body: get help file (automatic, doesn't matter what you 

put here) 

 

 

THE FLOW OF AN EMAIL DREAM GROUP: 

I--INVITATION TO JOIN GROUP-- Before any group can 

begin it must have members. We routinely post 

invitations to join the dream wheels in various spots on 

the Internet. Invitations are also e-mailed to 

interested persons. 

II--INSTRUCTIONS/ SENDING IN DREAMS-- Once members have 

joined it is time to begin. Instructions briefly 

outlining the whole process are sent to everyone in the 

group. Included with these instructions is a schedule 

that sets dates for the group. In addition a request is 

sent requesting that dreams to be considered for use in 

the group be sent to the moderator. Once all dreams are 

received the moderator randomly selects the dream(s) for 

the group. 

III--DREAM SENT TO ALL ON LIST-- The dream(s) selected 

by the moderator is sent to everyone in the group along 

with the instructions regarding the technique used in 

asking questions of the dreamers. 

IV--QUESTIONS SENT FROM ALL IN GROUP-- Following the 

instructions sent with the dream, the group the members 

have a chance to ask "clarification" questions. These 

questions are directed at the dreamers, but are sent to 

everyone in the group. 

V--DREAMER HAS A CHANCE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS-- As the 

questions are sent to the group the dreamers have the 

option to answer, or not answer, them. 

VI--COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS SENT BY MODERATOR-- Once the 

dreamers have answered questions the moderator sends out 

a note to all group members to take the dreams as their 

own. Once the moderator sends these instructions it is 

time for the group members to begin commenting on the 

dream. *Although a schedule is set at the beginning of 

the group the dates set for the beginnings and endings of 

phases are sometimes changed by the moderator to allow 

for special circumstances (example: questions dreamer's 

answers are in ahead of schedule so moderator sends out 

"comment" instructions early. OR, questions are slow to 

come in so moderator extends time allowed for questions 

to be sent). 

VII--COMMENTS SENT FROM ALL IN GROUP-- Group members 

send their "If this were my dream..." comments to 

everyone in the group. 

VIII--DREAMER HAS A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS-- 

Once all comments are in the dreamers are given the 

chance to respond to the comments. Sometimes the 

dreamers choose to share with the group any insights they 

may have gained in the process of answering questions and 

reading comments. 

IF--MODERATOR CLOSES GROUP-- At this point the 

moderator brings the group to a close by sharing some 

closing thoughts on the group. 

========================================================= 

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DREAM WHEEL 6B--MODERATED BY RICHARD WILKERSON 

(edited from original e-mails by R. Wilkerson & C. Hicks) 

 

I--INVITATION TO JOIN GROUP-- Dream Wheel 6b 

participants joined by e-mailing Richard, who then 

compiled a list of group members' email addresses. This 

list was used by, both the moderator and the group 

members to insure that material was sent to everyone in 

the group. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

II--INSTRUCTIONS/ SENDING IN DREAMS 

 

Dreamwheel 6b 

Dreamsharing Online: Instructions - Send in a dream 

The first step is to send in a dream to the moderator. 

Send to Richard Wilkerson 

rcwilk@aol.com 

Please *title* your dream for reference (you can change 

the title later if you want) and pick a pen name. Some 

like to use their first names, other like a completely 

different identity. If the e-mail address you use is not 

enough anonymity for you, please send in the dream from 

the address you are willing to share with the group for 

the next couple of weeks. 

To all participants- please maintain confidentiality 

and be sensitive to the group and dreamer. Keep all 

interaction, comments and personal information within the 

group. 

That's it! 

I'll send more instructions this weekend. Welcome to 

DreamWheel 6B! 

 

Schedule: 

Feb 1-4 (Thurs-Sunday) Send in dreams - if possible send 

in a dream that is recent and of reasonable length - more 

than a fragment, less than a novel! Send to your 

moderator, Richard Wilkerson at 

rcwilk@aol.com 

I'll pick a dream for us to work on and send out the 

dream and group list on Sunday or Monday. 

Feb 5-8 (monday-thrus) Questions to Dreamer. Though the 

questions are to the dreamer, be sure to send them to the 

whole group. see below for e-mail instructions if needed. 

In this group we are only going to ask *clarification* 

questions. Do not ask the dreamer any questions that 

might call for speculation or interpretation. 

Feb 5-11 (monday- Sunday) The dreamer may or may not 

reply to the questions, as they wish. The dreamers in our 

groups usually wait until several questions are in before 

answering, but you can follow the response schedule that 

is best for you. Always send answers to the whole group. 

Feb 12- 14 (mon- wed) Comments. Participants may send in 

comments to the group on the dream. In this session we 

recommend the Ullman "If this were my dream..." style. 

See Below on DREAM COMMENTING for more information on 

this. 

Feb 12- 17 (mon -Sunday) The dreamer may or may not reply 

to the comments, as they wish. Often dreamers like to 

give feedback to the group about what they found 

interesting, surprising, useful and insightful. And of 

course, the commentators (who we call commentors) always 

seen to love the feedback. If there are loose ends, the 

mediator will tie things up and that it for the first 

dream. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

III--DREAM SENT TO ALL ON LIST 

 

DREAM: "The Shadow Box" by Island 

I dreamed I was in Texas, I think, because I ran into 

Monica, quite by accident, in the broad light of day. As 

I haven't seen her in quite a long time, and she has 

always seemed like a sister to me in her expression of 

affection, I imagined she would want us to get together. 

But she was cool about it and sort of wormed her way out 

of it. At this point the dream seems confusing; not sure 

what happens, but not much happens. Then I'm going to a 

class of some kind where I'm to give some kind of 

presentation. But my talk is really unprepared: I don't 

really know what I am going to say, always an unpleasant 

experience. My main impression is that I am going not 

with my 47-year-old heart but my 7-year-old heart. I have 

with me what seems like a giant sandbox of sorts turned 

vertically, or perhaps a huge square shadowbox(?) for 

display. Inside is the universe in motion -- all the 

planets and stars and everything else besides, not that I 

can see it clearly. I'm just aware that that's what is 

there. When I awakened, and recalled the dream, I cried 

for a while. (96.02.02) 

 

Notes: Moderator selects dreams randomly 

Dream sent to all on list 

ASKING QUESTIONS of the dreamer: 

In this phase of the process you may ask the dreamer 

questions about the dream that may clarify the image of 

the dream. Do not ask questions that call for 

interpretations. 

Example: DREAM "He turned around and grabbed Bill's 

jacket away from me" 

Questions: 

Hi Dreamer, thanks for sharing your dream with us. I 

was wondering: 

1. Who is "he" that grabbed the jacket - did you know 

him, what did he look like? 

2. Are you related to Bill or is he a friend? 

3. Were you scared when he grabbed the jacket away? 

4. What kind of jacket was it? Dark leather, green 

raincoat...? 

Some questions you *DON'T* want to ask: 

1. Why do you think he grabbed your jacket? 

(though you might ask if any reasons went through your 

head *during* the dream.) 

2. Did you know that Jackets represent symbols of 

appearance issues? 

3. Do you often have men grabbing your clothes in dreams? 

4. What does standing behind someone mean to you? 

 

And to the Dreamers- 

If and when you reply to the questions, do so only to 

clarify the dream. Try to avoid interpretations at this 

point. If it is not clear from the dream how to answer a 

question, simply say it was not clear. 

Usually the dreamer waits until several members' 

questions have been mailed to the group to begin 

answering. 

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IV--QUESTIONS SENT FROM ALL IN GROUP 

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Hello Island, 

Thank you for the 'Cosmic Dream'!!! 

Some questions: 

1. Do you remember anything about the weather (ie. hot, 

cold)? 

2. Did you and Monica speak much before she 'wormed' out 

of getting together, and if so can you recall what you 

spoke of? 

3. Where is this class (a university, an old elementary 

school, other familiar places)? 

4. Describe your feelings as you stood before the class 

to give this presentation. 

5. Can you clarify about the sandbox/shadow box--Could 

you see the smaller sections that may have been present 

if it were a shadow box, and if so, were there different 

things (perhaps even universes) within the various 

compartments? 

6. Have all our questions brought out any additional 

information about that confusing transition period 

between the first and second part of the dream? 

Thank you, 

"S" 

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Hello Island, Great dream! 

My questions are: 

1. What is a sandbox. Is it a box full of sand where the 

kids play with toys and build sand 

castles etc? 

2. What is a shadowbox? 

3. Did the toys in the sandbox make you think of the 

planets and stars? 

4. What is your difference between a 47 year old heart 

and a 7 year old heart? 

5. Clarify what you mean by 'wormed'? It is quite a 

descriptive word. 

6. What specifically made you cry? Thinking about Monica 

and the way she reacted; the 47 year old vs 7 year old 

heart; the stress of the unprepared presentation; or just 

everything, nothing specific. 

Thanks, "B" 

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Hi Island, thanks for sharing your dream. 

Some questions: 

1 You were in Texas, but could you describe the scene in 

more detail? Were you inside or outside - on the road 

..etc? 

2. Was the presentation in the class *about* the shadow 

box? 

"D" 

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Hello Island 

Thanks for a very touching dream. I have questions: 

(1) What is your association with Texas? 

(2) Please take another peep in the shadow box. What 

else can you see with one quick glimpse, or two? 

Thanks, "L" 

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Hi Island, 

Interesting dream! Could you answer these questions? 

l. Is Monica a long- time friend? At what time in life 

did you meet? Childhood,etc.? 

2. Do you have any idea of what the topic of your 

presentation was to be? 

3. What is the difference for you between presenting 

with a "47-year-old heart" and a "7-year-old heart"? 

4. Were there any colors in the universe display, or 

just dark and light contrasts? 

Thanks for sharing your dreams and answers. "T" 

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Island, 

Thanks for the dream! 

And (surprise) I have a question 

1. What does the audience look like? What type of 

people are they and 

how do they respond to you? 

2. Do you have any idea (during the dream) where the 

shadowbox comes from? 

Okay, so that was two questions... 

Thanks, 

"I" 

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V--DREAMER HAS A CHANCE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS 

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Thanks for your questions, "D" I'll try to answer them 

as best as I can. 

1 You were in Texas, but could you describe the scene in 

more detail? Were 

you inside or outside - on the road ..etc? 

No, I cannot describe the scene in much more detail. My 

impression is an interstate highway is 

close by; I say, Texas, because I had a sense of vast 

terrain, plus that's where Monica lives. 

2. Was the presentation in the class *about* the shadow 

box? 

About the shadow box? Apparently so. Or what was inside 

it. Not one word to do with the 

presentation, not even a title, was a part of the dream. 

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Hello, "I". Thanks for your questions. Actually I made 

two associations I would not have made 

otherwise. 

1. What does the audience look like? What type of 

people are they and 

how do they respond to you? 

A small audience, a couple of hundred, in open (not 

enclosed) space. My best word for the 

audience would be "impassive." 

2. Do you have any idea (during the dream) where the 

shadowbox comes from? 

I do believe that it was something I had been working on, 

but in the dream, it felt like it just 

magically appeared. My two associations, though, just now 

-- 1) Plato's cave; 2) my grandfather, 

perched in front of the boob tube, arms flailing 

excitedly, every Sunday afternoon like clockwork, 

as he watches boxing matches...he died years ago, though 

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Hello, "T". Thank you for your questions (especially the 

one about the difference between the 

two hearts). 

l. Is Monica a long- time friend? At what time in life 

did you meet? Childhood,etc.? 

I met Monica when she was an adolescent and I was a stage 

actress in a semi-rep theater, 20 years 

ago. I had become involved with a close friend of hers, 

only to learn through her (she was unaware of the my 

involvement with this man) that she was in the horns of a 

dilemma. This much older man, who not only was a close 

friend of hers, but also befriended for years by her 

parents, was doing his best to get her in bed, and she 

was a virgin. Essentially, it was child abuse (and I was 

a child-abuse social worker at the time). So as she told 

me of her plight, I had to immediately sort out/through 

my feelings: first, about this man; secondly, about how 

to discuss the situation with her without breaking her 

heart; and thirdly, how to do so leaving my immediately 

broken heart out of the situation. It was that event that 

was the prelude to a longterm friendship. 

2. Do you have any idea of what the topic of your 

presentation was to be? 

No. 

3. What is the difference for you between presenting 

with a "47-year-old heart" and a "7-year-old heart"? 

All the difference in the world. The 7-year-old is filled 

with the joy, the excitement, the ecstacy, of 

sharing what she knows of the universe with others. The 

47-year-old, whose heart was broken so many times before, 

romantically and otherwise, still (she sometimes thinks) 

wants to share -- but just what is it, exactly? 

4. Were there any colors in the universe display, or 

just dark and light contrasts? 

No colors. Just a flash that the universe was there. 

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Thanks, "L". I had just answered (and sent off responses 

to the other questions when yours popped up): 

(1) What is your association with Texas? 

Visited once, more than 20 years ago. What stands out 

(very vaguely) in memory is 1) taking a walk along a 

beautiful riverwalk in -- I want to say, San Antonio, but 

I'm not sure, with an ex-husband (20 years divorced). 2) 

It was so hot that an evening dress I wore to some 

military function literally stuck to the plastic car 

seats as I dripped in sweat, feeling as if my skin was 

coming off. Funny, but I don't recall the event at all. 

3) Seeing the city from a revolving restaurant and being 

in awe. 

An former best friend of more than 20 years moved to 

Texas from Georgia following a break (1988) in friendship 

and a dream she had where she saw me dead, with long 

white hair, pursued by black, ghostly figures. 

(2) Please take another peep in the shadow box. What 

else can you see with one quick glimpse, 

or two? 

I would like to say planets slowly, elegantly assuming 

their positions, each in turn, against a backdrop of an 

infinity of stars. 

Again, thanks for your questions. 

Island 

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"B", here goes, 

1. What is a sandbox. Is it a box full of sand where the 

kids play with toys 

and build sand castles etc? 

Not quite so literal for me. I think of a sandbox as a 

sectioned off space that has nothing inside. It 

is the thing left behind, or abandoned, or fallen into 

disuse. 

2. What is a shadowbox? 

Again, 2) a box with borders to be used to display some 

imaginative creation; 3) the usual meaning: to spar with 

an imaginary opponent, but more narrowly, unauthentic 

communication; 4) 

see previous response 

3. Did the toys in the sandbox make you think of the 

planets and stars? 

There were no toys. 

4. What is your difference between a 47 year old heart 

and a 7 year old heart? 

"T" also asked that question and it's a good one (see 

previous response) 

5. Clarify what you mean by 'wormed'? It is quite a 

descriptive word. 

In this specific instance, to feign allegiance where none 

exists. 

6. What specifically made you cry? Thinking about Monica 

and the way she reacted; the 47 year 

old vs 7 year old heart; the stress of the unprepared 

presentation; or just everything, nothing 

specific. 

The difference between the sand/shadow box and the 

universe; the difference between my old/young heart; the 

difference between old ideals that I have read about 

historically (loyalty; honor; nobility; integrity) but 

rarely experience presently, either in others or myself. 

Loss. 

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Hello "S: 

Thank you for your questions. I hope I'm not 

redundant with my answers. (This is a 

fascinating process, I must say. I had no idea that I 

could glean as much as I have out of it thus 

far). 

1. Do you remember anything about the weather (ie. hot, 

cold)? 

Unremarkable; but clear 

2. Did you and Monica speak much before she 'wormed' out 

of getting together, and if so can 

you recall what you spoke of? 

No, and that's the strange thing since it's been a long 

while since we've actually spoken or gotten 

together. The main feature is surprise that we had quite 

by accident met on her turf, so to speak, since I have 

never visited her in Texas, and she has visited me 

several times in New York. But I did have an awareness in 

the dream that her interest in this man was all 

absorbing; something she must have communicated to me. 

Another strange thing is that in 20 years I have only 

known Monica to be involved with three men, and she's 

generally been unattached. Knowing Monica as I think I 

do, I cannot even fathom her being so absorbed by a man 

that she would/could have acted this "wormy" way. Monica 

is more like a sister than a friend. Hard to explain. 

She's a bit more straightforward, clearthinking and 

honest. Very pure. Like a child. 

3. Where is this

  
class (a university, an old elementary 

school, other familiar places)? 

Not at all a University, school, or familiar setting, but 

my sense is of a broad audience of varying interests. 

I'm not even sure why they were even there. I must admit 

that their features were nondescript; it was almost as if 

I couldn't see a distinctive feature. And too, there 

weren't the usual boundaries (walls, etc.). 

4. Describe your feelings as you stood before the class 

to give this presentation. 

Mainly, how did I get here? Why am I here? Am I prepared? 

Why am <I> before a body of people? 

Mainly, again, surprise, confusion, feeling at a loss, 

wanting to, however, live up to my role? Function? Since 

I'm there. Might as well. Don't get the point. More like 

politics, which I loathe. What could I possibly say, or 

do, that would leave any lasting impression? Why should I 

want to leave a lasting impression, except that memories 

are all that we will ever possess, and to give a gift of 

oneself is to increase another's storehouse, including 

your own. But before an audience? Maybe one on one, 

perhaps. Where's the dynamic reciprocity? Is there really 

any real and dynamic interchange between audience member 

and speaker? Then I answer my own question with, yes, 

there is. Remember Professor Rosenthal? Or Professor 

Raymo? Aren't they both unforgettable? Yes. Yes. Why so? 

Because there they were -- they -- speaking of a 

multitude of things, points of information, bits and 

pieces from history, a poem here, a writer there, a 

thought, a feeling, an awareness, making the heart thirst 

for experience not understood -- an amalgamation of 

consciousness...but so rare. And do we have the time? 

I would like to think I would not give a presentation, or 

perform, if you will, again. Though I have been before 

large audiences, acting, playing a violin, dancing, etc., 

it was always a rigorously planned event. It either went 

nearly perfectly (didn't miss a step, drop a word) or it 

didn't go at all. The two times I most vividly recall 

where it didn't go as planned, I've never understood 

today why I reacted as I did. Once, I was playing a 

violin before a group of people at age 12. In the middle 

of the piece, I stopped and stared. I never put my bow 

back to the string as a solo artist before a group again. 

Another time, I am in college and to give a speech. Just 

a minute or two into the speech, and I stopped talking. 

The professor must have coaxed me to continue for the 

next half hour, but that was it. When I had a lapse of 

memory, and stood there in a fog, the fog just never 

lifted. A third time, I'm reading a poem rather 

beautifully to a rather hostile group who treated me 

almost with disdain: as if to say, why are you here and 

reading? We had all been reading around the circle, so I 

didn't get the point to their reaction. I'm really an 

inward person by nature, and I find, unless I really have 

a point for being in there in the first place, there's 

really no point to it. 4) A fourth time, when the 

breakdown of my mouth was being used to teach a class of 

postgraduate dentists: an unforgettable experience, to 

say the least, since my mouth (X-rays, and the like) was 

the focus of attention for a year or more. At this 

juncture in my life, I would be just about the last 

person to be before an audience presenting anything but 

poems aloud, something I've been doing more of this last 

year. 

5. Can you clarify about the sandbox/shadow box--Could 

you see the smaller sections that may have been present 

if it were a shadow box, and if so, were there different 

things (perhaps even universes) within the various 

compartments? 

No; oddly, there were no compartments within, which is 

why sandbox comes into play. But my impression of the 

planets slowly forming, like circles within a square, 

deepens. And as I look within the sand/shadowbox, I see 

three dimensions, not two. Really a vastness, and within 

that vastness, each planet moves out of the vastness 

forward closer and closer to the forefront: as if 

presenting itself -- the planet introducing itself, as it 

were, rather elegantly -- as if it were communicating but 

without language. It's not the objects in a box I see, 

for these are static. The movement inside the box that I 

could hold up comfortably with my two hands was dynamic, 

having a life of its own. 

6. Have all our questions brought out any additional 

information about that confusing transition period 

between the first and second part of the dream? 

No. Except to say that since you have phrased it that 

way, I must say that an interaction like that with Monica 

is very like events that characterized events from my 

past, even as recent as a year ago. That is not the case 

now, nor do I expect it will be the case in the future. 

And there has been a rather lengthy transition period 

between those times and these. 

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VI--COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS SENT BY MODERATOR 

 

DreamWheel 6B - Comments on "Shadow Box" 

COMMENT PROCEDURES 

In this part of the process, you may comment on the 

dream. While you are welcome to make any comments you 

wish, what we are teaching in this group is 

non-defensive style developed by Montegue Ullman and 

modified for Internet myself and others. 

This segment is the one in which each group member takes 

the dream as if it were his or her own and shares 

feelings and thoughts about the dream and what it might 

mean in each members life situation. 

Making the dream your own: 

1. At the beginning of all comment files or e-mail we 

generally write : "If this were my dream..." 

This sets up the general subjective attitude and 

works as a reminder to the commentor that they are not 

telling the dreamer what they think the dream means to 

the dreamer, but rather what the dream might mean if we 

had that dream. 

2. To further this point, use 1st person singular, 

present tense. "In my dream..." 

EXAMPLE: Dream: "I'm looking at my mother walking 

down a 

long hall towards an open window." 

I might comment "In my dream the nurturing mother has 

found a new way to escape me." 

 

In my comment, it is *my mother*, *my hallway* and 

*my 

dream*. This may or may not provide insight to the 

initial dreamer, but its surprising how often 

this non- defensive approach does lead to new 

insight. 

 

 

3. Send the comments in to the whole group. 

4. The DREAMERS may or may not respond. 

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VII--COMMENTS SENT FROM ALL IN GROUP 

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COMMENT BY "L" 

Hi Island, 

If this were my dream, I experience pain stemming from 

expectation, hope then disappointment (Monica's 

rejection). From my life history, this seems to be an 

ever present trend. I am much too unhappy. 

Fortunately, my unconscious intervenes. I am reminded 

that no matter how well rehearsed, I have the capability 

to stop cold turkey during a performance. I did this 

twice before. The fog is here, I can do it again, this 

time the performance is my negative self talk. I have 

practiced this monologue for a very long time, but I 

still can get all fogged up and forget 

it all together! 

In my hands, a section of abandoned, useless piece of 

land is to be created, transformed to a sandbox for my 7 

yrs old self and a shadow box for my 47 yrs old one. 

The sandbox is to be furbished with clean sand and 

multitude of colorful toys of my choice and as gifts from 

my friends and loved ones (including my fightsty grand-pa 

who loved to shadow-box, to knock out the imaginary foes 

on sunday afternoons). 

The shadow box is current stage of/for my universe, 

which is boundless, elegant and dynamic. I can add to 

this wonderful sight: sounds, scents, temperatures and 

colors too if I wish. I am the 

creator/producer/director. I have my world/stage in my 

hands. 

Thanks, Island, for the courage to share your dream and 

snap shots of your life. I feel honored to be invited 

for a brief "visit" to your rich world. 

Thanks also to the DreamWheelers for their questions, 

which I find so helpful. I feel like we are spokes to a 

wheel. Is that what you meant by this name, Richard? 

"L" 

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COMMENT BY "K" 

If this were my dream I would try and look at the kind of 

people I have chosen to bond with in my life. Perhaps 

they are not as loyal as I am. 

That people have *let me down* too much in my life. 

I would try and recognize that I feel like a little kid 

but am an adult. I may *feel* inadequate in some ways at 

some times but that does not make it real. That it is 

okay to mourn over mistakes or losses but I should not 

let that little kid hold me back anymore. 

I would try and realize that *everything* is available to 

me if I would just open my eyes and walk through the 

door (sandbox). 

"K" 

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COMMENT BY "M" 

Hi Island 

If this were my dream I'd be feeling sad and thinking I 

may not have happiness right now with my 47 yr old heart 

but I have been shown that I can hold the feelings of my 

7yr old heart. 

I feel the sandbox and the shadowbox are one and the same 

showing me three things - the way I was (7yr old heart) 

the way I am (47 yr old heart) and the way I can be (I'm 

just aware that it's - the universe, stars etc. - there). 

And all three are inside of me. 

- Monica rejected me 

- I was unprepared 

- I didn't know what I was going to say 

- The audience treated me with indifference, however 

- I've been working on the box 

- I am going with my 7yr old heart to the class (filled 

with the joy, the 

excitement, the ecstasy, of sharing) 

- I'm just aware that it's (the universe, stars etc) 

there - not that I can 

see it clearly. 

I feel that the present is much more tangible, hurtful, 

real. However, even though I can't see *it* clearly, 

(the universe is in motion... the movement inside the 

box that I could hold up comfortably with my two hands 

was dynamic, having a life of its own.) things do change. 

Do I have the strength to follow what I can't see clearly 

- it did have a 

life of it's own. 

Thank you for sharing you dream Island - it's very 

touching. Please ignore what I've said if it doesn't 

make any sense to you. Sorry I didn't ask any questions. 

By the time I got around to preparing some it seemed as 

though you'd been asked them all. I'll try to be quicker 

next time! "M" 

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COMMENTS BY "I" 

Hi Island, 

If this were my dream, I would be reminded that I 

carry a lot of the past with me. I would remember that 

sometimes letting go of past expectations is part of 

regaining that seven year old heart. 

I would remember that even the most mundane and 

unpleasant of circumstances, such as giving an 

unprepared presentation, are windows into the beauty of 

the universe; That life, like dreams, contains 

uncertainty alongside the spectacular-- that the sandbox 

can contain the awesomeness of the universe. 

 

Thanks for sharing the dream and life experiences. I am 

honored with the beauty. 

"I" 

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COMMENTS BY "D" 

If this were my dream.... 

In my dream I come across and old friend. We are in 

her domain and the meeting takes place were it is all lit 

up, where I can be very conscious. But the forces that 

brought us together here are accidental and not 

conscious. Its been awhile, and for me this means there 

has been some development since our last encounter, some 

significant changes and movement. My friend seems to 

have forgotten what we held between us, and doesn't act 

as I expect her to. She has lost her filial feelings, 

her desire for us to be together, her memory of what was. 

What she offers now is something else. It is not a 

straight path and it leads away from being together. I 

wonder if I have new strengths which she can no longer 

match, or if she is some part of me, offering a soulful 

retreat away from my usual self? The event itself 

becomes unproductive, without sense, confusing, going 

nowhere. I can find no memory of her being like this, 

but it recalls a time of lost innocence and broken 

hearts. 

Now the class waits while I present. I feel I have 

something to teach to my inner audience, but just what is 

not clear. Maybe we are all part of the class. Hmm, 

present and present and present. Being present, 

presenting something, giving and receiving presents. I 

hold the present. There is something about shadows from 

the past - even archetypal shadows brought to light by 

Plato. For me this is the play of lost innocence also. I 

am in the cave with others who spend their lives 

commenting on the patterns of shadows in the dark. 

Something happens, I am shown a brighter light and then 

there is no way to go back. I go back anyway. I try to 

explain to those still in the shadows, but they think I'm 

crazy now. Do they worm away? My innocent heart is 

present, and I present the mystery I hold to the class. 

What can I say? This is place we call the universe. 

Thanks Island for a peek into the shadow box. "D" 

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COMMENTS BY "S" 

If this were my dream... 

I am in Texas, I think, because I run into Monica, quite 

by accident, in the broad light of day. As I have not 

seen her in quite a long time, and she always seemed like 

a sister to me in her expression of affection, I imagined 

she would want us to get together. Monica is my youth, 

my innocence, or that part of me (unconscious) that 

retains innocence. Like a child she is straight forward 

and clear thinking. Instead of wanting to get together 

she is cool about it and sort of worms her way out of it. 

I cannot connect with my innocence. 

The is confusing as it changes.....This transition time 

may correspond to waking-life transitions. 

Now I am going to a class of some kind where I am to give 

some kind of presentation. But my talk is really 

unprepared. I don't really know what I am going to say, 

always an unpleasant experience. I have reached a point 

in my life where I feel that I should have some answers, 

something to "present", but I am not sure that I am 

prepared. Am I where I am supposed to be? My main 

impression is that I am going not with my forty-seven 

year old heart but with my seven year old heart. Whereas 

in the first part of this dream I did not connect with my 

innocence, my youth, here I am looking through my youth! 

I have what seems like a giant sandbox of sorts turned 

vertically, or perhaps a huge square shadowbox for 

display. Inside is the universe in motion--all the 

planets and stars and everything else besides, not that I 

can see it clearly. Inside the sandbox is my life! The 

planets, the stars, and everything else! I cannot 

necessarily see it all clearly, but I know its there. 

When I awaken and recall this I cry for a while. 

So much juxtaposition. Youth and age. Innocence and 

experience. If this were my dream I would definitely see 

it as a struggle to bring together my youthful and wise 

hearts. One still sees life as a wonderful mysterious 

universe that swirls and presents itself so elegantly, 

while the other knows the pain of betrayal and the sharp 

edged lessons of life here in the waking-world. I have 

reached a time when my society/friends/family/self (the 

generic audience) expect that I should have gained some 

insight, but I am unsure of what exactly is expected. I 

question why I am here, how I got here, am I prepared? 

The audience waits, but for what do they wait? Do I 

speak from innocence or from wisdom? This dream urges me 

to integrate the two. 

Thank you, Island, for this wonderful dream. I felt the 

urge to go on and on about the delicate balance between 

the sometimes painful lessons of life and the unspoiled 

beauty and innocence of childhood. Too far one way and 

one becomes a cynic, too far the other and one is a fool. 

Most of us live somewhere between. Alas, waking-life 

constraints limit my time so I had to end this 

commentary. Perhaps it is better... 

"S" 

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VIII--DREAMER HAS A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS 

 

To All 6B Dream Wheelers! 

Your comments were so rich, wonderful, and helpful... I 

had no idea what to expect. It has been quite a moving 

and dynamic experience for me and never occurred to me it 

was possible to reap such rewards! Normally I would have 

dreamed the dream, had my cry, and moved on. But a window 

of opportunity opened -- no matter what the demands and 

challenges were in the world (and they were many), I 

decided to commit myself to answer the questions. Then I 

lived with your comments and made additional notes. 

The dream itself (Shadowbox) was enigmatic, to say the 

least. I feel that such a dream has something of value on 

many levels, but there is something also of primary 

import that I felt was eluding me. I couldn't get a 

handle on that primary message, for lack of a better 

word. What had me puzzled was that, at 47 years old, I am 

far happier than I have ever been in my past. It's been a 

gradual process, though, from great pain and suffering 

for a variety of reasons to a space where I can say I 

love life, exasperating though it may be many times. I 

have many things to be thankful for, and carry with me at 

all times a deep sense of appreciation, no matter what is 

going on in the moment. Yet this dream seemed to suggest 

to me that I was not happy, and a great many other things 

besides. I was at a loss. But because of your comments, 

and my commitment to the process, I am not nearly at the 

loss I was when I dreamed the dream. 

It was not until I had made most of the notes (at end of 

E-mail) that it dawned on me what perhaps the primary 

import of the dream may be. The unresolved tension. 

One way I honored the dream: I phoned Monica shortly 

after having it. Turns out she was in the throes and had 

been for four months, a highly unusual situation for her. 

A man had deceived her into thinking he was free. She 

fell in love with him (the second time in her life, and 

she's approaching forty), and then he abandoned her for 

his ex-wife who reentered the scene (they had gotten a 

divorce originally because he found her in bed with his 

best friend). So here a situation clearly about treachery 

and betrayal. Monica hasn't been there for anyone in four 

months, I gathered. But as far as a distance between us, 

or a change in the way we related, there was none. 

What hit me eventually was I had never once thought of 

similar encounters: where I would bring the innocence and 

trusting nature of Monica(myself) into the light of open 

day and found myself relating, and being related to, in a 

way that ran totally counter to previous life experience 

with that person. Quite painful, I can assure you. And 

that approaches the heart of this dream. 

It didn't occur to me until very late in the process to 

ask myself what Monica and I uniquely share in common. 

Twisted final encounters, for one. Two, we were both 

abandoned by partners when moving to alien cities, 

leaving us friendless until we could build our own lives. 

Three, we both were deceived by men who engaged our 

hearts with foreknowledge that the relationship wasn't 

going anywhere. Four, we share the pain of untimely 

deaths of mutual close friends. Five, we share protracted 

illness and deaths of family members. Six, both of us 

through circumspection to the four corners of the earth 

when in relationship with others. 

The dream seemed to point to the unresolved emotion 

surrounding what I have no name for right now, other than 

what I just said. Encounters where unanticipated, 

inexplicable change in the relationship has taken place, 

placing me in transition, followed by death (entering the 

shadowbox/universe) of the loved one, leaving me to 

realize that what happened (both during the encounter and 

the fact of death itself) is irreversible. This happens 

after I have spent some time 

building/constructing/creating elements in my sand/shadow 

box (the dynamics of relationship) with my 7-year-old 

heart. And I am left speechless in the face of what I 

ultimately experience. Yet it seems that the spirit of 

the dead may be dramatically, dynamically present, though 

I may not be able to discern anything but shadows. For 

me, however, that is small consolation. 

So what do I present to any audience? The facts? What 

facts? My grief? Or do I continue to create/recreate the 

sand/shadowbox? Is not the shadowbox itself symbolic of 

an interpenetration of earth and spirit worlds? The 

circles in the square? Squaring the circles? According to 

Cirlot in Dictionary of Symbols, the aim of squaring the 

circle(s), or circling the square, is to obtain unity in 

the material world, as well as the spiritual life, over 

and above the differences and obstacles, or the static 

order, of the number four and the four-cornered square. 

Then: by means of circulatory revolution, the quaternary 

is restored to purest simplicity and innocence. Just the 

words, simplicity and innocence, bring Monica, and none 

other, to mind. And, I suppose, Monica is holding up a 

mirror to mySelf. How can I be simple, and innocent, 

knowing what I know and having experienced what I have 

experienced? How can I integrate the seven year old heart 

so that it comes forth singing, rather than crying? Or 

why not both sing and cry simultaneously? Do I try to 

bring the beloved shadows into clearer focus, were it 

possible? 

Or do I abandon the sand/shadowbox altogether and ground 

myself thoroughly on the earth, with its current 

insistence on logic, data, information systems and the 

like, eschewing all that cannot be made immediately 

palpable by the five developed senses? The statement made 

by "D", *But the forces that brought us together here are 

accidental and not conscious* -- was absolutely numinous 

for me. The ultimate question I ask of myself is: how 

much of the sorrow do I visit upon myself and how much of 

it results from accidental, unconscious forces at play? 

How much is fate, and how much destiny? That remains an 

unknown. 

Thank you, again, for your questions and comments. I'd 

like to share some notes I made on your comments because 

it was the process itself that has me at the point I am 

now with the dream. 

"I" 

1. carry a lot of the past/let go of past expectations 

1. regain seven year old heart 

2. mundane & unpleasant/Unprepared 

1. Window to beauty of universe 

3. uncertainty/spectacular 

4. Sandbox/awesome 

"M" 

5. 47-year-old/unhappy&7-year-old/happy 

6. sandbox=shadowbox 

7. Past/present/future (child/adult/universe): 

(Association to: Love the man you'll never 

have; love the man you don't have now; love the man 

you're with) 

8. Monica's rejection (the part I almost overlooked 

when reviewing comments) 

9. Indifferent audience faces heart filled with joy, 

excitement, ecstacy of sharing 

10. Awareness of universe (not solely its visual 

representation) 

11. Painful present (too tangible, hurtful, real) 

12. Life of its own -- independent (universe: dynamic) 

13. Things change 

14. Do I have the strength (faith) to follow what I 

can't see 

"K" 

15. Betrayal/disloyalty/treachery (foolish bonding: a 

blind side?) 

16. Child holds back (I am adult) 

17. Child holds back (I am not inadequate -- an 

illusion) 

18. Mourn mistakes & loss 

19. Open my eyes; walk through the sandbox (into the 

universe) 

20. All is available 

"L" 

21. Long term pain (expectation/hope followed by 

disappointment) 

22. Unconscious intervenes (as redeemer) 

23. Stop at once (negative selftalk) this monologue 

(performance) 

24. Abandoned land (inherited and transformed for both 

selves: young & old) 

25. Filled with sand, color, gifts from friends & loved 

ones (Grandpa, my protector, is there) 

26. Shadowbox (what happens at death?) 

27. Current stage of universe (boundless, elegant, 

dynamic) 

1. Add: sights, sounds, scents, temperature, color 

(become God-ess/like) 

2. Creator/Producer/Director of shadowbox (become 

God-ess/like) 

3. Association to song: "He's got the whole world 

in His hands // He's got the whole 

wide world in His hands..." 

"D" 

28. *But the forces that brought us together here are 

accidental and not conscious* 

29. Transition before encounter with Monica: filled with 

development, change, movement 

30. Monica: has forgotten things of value (sisterhood; 

desire for relatedness; ability to recall 

past) 

31. A winding (wormy, snaky) road leads away from 

relatedness 

32. Have I grown beyond her? (Is it possible to grow 

beyond someone I have ever once 

loved?) 

33. A soulful retreat away from usual self (do I need a 

return to Self?) 

34. *Event itself: without meaning and value* 

35. Lost innocence/broken hearts (most definitely) 

36. Unclear teaching: shadows from the past 

(Realization: the dead who are present in spirit 

only) 

37. Great blinding pain 

38. Associate to: (The swan has leaped into the desolate 

heavens! That image can bring 

wildness, can bring a rage to end all 

things...Yeats) 

39. Don't go there yet! Don't slink away! Don't abandon 

the earth! Don't get murdered! 

Don't commit suicide! Don't contract a terminal 

illness! Don't die from cancer! Or a 

broken heart! Don't become a part of the universe! 

Where are you now? I cannot see you, 

touch you, talk to you, relate to you... 

"S" 

40. I imagine relatedness (where none may exist) 

41. A part of me is innocent; straightforward; clear 

thinking (am I connected to that part?) 

42. Transitions, transitions, and more transitions 

43. Experience leaves me dumbfounded, speechless 

44. I look into my life (well of experience -- 

sandbox... from dust to dust) 

45. I see the universe in motion (everyone and 

everything I have ever loved and valued) 

46. Play of opposites: youth/age; innocence/experience; 

universe(boundless)/pain of 

experience(has limits) 

47. Philosophical questions unanswered: How/why am I 

here? What have I come for? To 

whom do I speak? Of what? Whom do I seek? Where do 

I/they/everyone go from here? 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

IX--MODERATOR CLOSES GROUP 

Although there was nothing much done to bring closure to 

DW6B due to the advanced self 

reflective skills of this dreamer, sometimes it is 

needed. Often comments on the process and how 

the group worked with the limits of the Internet medium 

can be helpful. In addition, suggesting a 

time and place for another meeting brings group cohesion 

and a sense of relatedness. <br> 

Another way to bring closure and allow for processing & 

comments is the use of a questionnaire 

at the end of the group. This was suggested to us by 

Jayne Gackenbach and implemented in a test 

by Sarah Richards. Christopher Hicks further revised the 

questionnaire for our mail list format 

and we are experimenting with a variety of questions to 

facilitate the group process and evolve 

the sense of group reflection. 

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