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Conspiracy Nation Vol. 01 Num. 96
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 96
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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On April 27, 1994, on Tom Donahue's now defunct shortwave radio
program, "America's Town Forum", Donahue's guests were Terry Reed
and John Cummings. Reed and Cummings are the authors of the
bestseller, *Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA*.
Because Donahue offers audio cassette tapes of his shows for
those who wish to purchase them, I sent a check to Mr. Donahue
for a tape of that night's show. Unfortunately (although Mr.
Donahue *did* finally send the tape of another show, featuring
Larry Nichols), the tape did not arrive after I had waited a
reasonable time. So I again wrote to Mr. Donahue et al.,
including a photocopy of the cancelled check I had sent them and
demanding my tape.
I waited. Still no reply. Eventually I just gave up on ever
getting the tape. I was not too ticked off at Mr. Donahue because
I knew he was going through other troubles at the time. I figured
he was just not well organized.
Today, finally, after more than 4 months, after I had long since
given up on getting the Reed/Cummings tape, today, finally, it
arrived. I have just made a backup of the tape and am now
prepared to transcribe it.
Before I start, here is some info that was included with the
tape:
Address to write to Tom Donahue: As of July 21, 1994
Letters only -- No post cards or packages.
Tom Donahue #24979077 C1
Mansfield Law Enforcement Center
1601 Heritage Parkway, Mansfield, Texas 76063
At this time Tom does have access to a telephone, however he
can only call "collect". He can't make local calls or 800
calls, just collect calls. If you would like to give your
permission for Tom to call you collect, do so by writing to
Tom at the above address.
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TOM DONAHUE:
Good day. Welcome, America. Tom Donahue program. Thanks so much
for joining us.
Well many "viewer rats" are celebrating "Tricky Dick Day". Um, I
always have, and will, have respect for the President and the
*presidency* -- the actual office. The office holder at that time
and, I guess, the "statesman at large" -- I feel he caused a lot
of great damage to this country: regional government, for one;
selling out our POWs; took him 5 years to get us out of [the]
Vietnam war, when he [had] promised in his first term we'd be
out. He was a Rockefeller stooge and a Kissinger associate for
many years, until even *they* turned on him. {1}.
But so much for Nixon... Tricky Dick Nixon Day. We have two very
special guests. And the book is absolutely a blockbuster. It's
everything it's cooked up to be. The book is, *Compromised:
Clinton, Bush and the CIA*. How the presidency was co-opted by
the CIA. Terry Reed and John Cummings. Indeed, it's my privilege
and pleasure to have you on "America's Town Forum".
TERRY REED:
Thank you very much, Tom. This is Terry speaking. [CN Note: The
interview was conducted via a 3-way phone hookup.]
JOHN CUMMINGS:
Hi, this is John...
DONAHUE:
O.K. Hi, John.
CUMMINGS:
Hi! And it's a pleasure to be here.
DONAHUE:
We're gonna start off with Terry [Reed] first.
Terry, why... I guess, whoever selected the title, it's a great
title. Explain to our listeners what you mean by "compromised"
when it comes to Clinton, Bush *and* the CIA.
REED:
Well not only is that a word that's in the media a lot now, but,
having been in Air Force intelligence, that's a word used
considerably in, you know, intelligence training: talking about
compromising classified material. But I felt it was a very
appropriate title in that both George Bush and Bill Clinton
compromised themselves, um made themselves open for attack, by
being mutually involved in a clandestine operation which was CIA-
backed and run out of the state of Arkansas.
So that's basically the core, the core premise behind the title.
DONAHUE:
Some would be astonished that you would refer to *Clinton* being
connected in any way, shape, or form with intelligence agencies.
Many see Clinton as a coward and someone that shirked his duty
{2} and was not involved with *any* military or intelligence
apparatuses in this country -- except, maybe outside the country,
such as the KGB.
REED:
Well actually, I think if people will study it closely, there's a
rumor circulating that Bill [Clinton] was actually working for
the CIA station chief out of London, a man by the name of Kurt
Meyer(sp?), and during his trips to the USSR (which, you know,
became a matter of public debate during the '92 campaign on what
he was doing there). But I don't find it shocking at all to find
politicians involved with intelligence operations, since that's
typically how the CIA is trained to penetrate and subvert foreign
governments, is, you compromise politicians and get them on your
side, normally through blackmail.
DONAHUE:
Um-hmm [understands].
Let me ask you about your background. Why don't you fill our
listeners in, give us kind of a biographical sketch?
REED:
O.K. I was a true "baby boomer", born in 1948, raised in
southwest Missouri, 21 miles from Harry Truman's birthplace and
hometown, Lamar, Missouri. I'm from Carthage, Missouri. I'm the
oldest of 6 children, raised to be patriotic and serve my
country. I did so. I was in Air Force intelligence for 8 years. I
was in Thailand, in a top-secret outfit called, "Task Force
Alpha", that oversaw the secret war in Laos; the "deniable war"
that Richard Nixon was running -- very apropos day to be
discussing...
DONAHUE:
Yeah. Another prize, another accolade, that should be passed
along to Nixon for that, huh?
REED:
Yeah. Yeah, I feel, just as you stated, that he really let the
veterans down as well as the country. He tried to be a statesman
and a commander-in-chief simultaneously. And I don't think you
can do that.
DONAHUE:
Well I think he said it best on "60 Minutes", this was a replay
of his interview with Mike Wallace, in 1968, where he stated
emphatically that he'd rather be off writing books and lecturing
and maybe even being a student again at Oxford University [sic]
-- though he didn't go there. Clinton did. But he [Nixon] said he
got "caught by the political virus", and he said, "When it
catches you, there's no way..."
REED:
"...there's no antidote", I believe is what he said.
DONAHUE:
...no. Wait a minute. Yeah....
REED:
"There's no drug." Yeah, I saw that interview.
[...to be continued...]
---------------------------<< Notes >>---------------------------
{1} Regarding Nixon: It's hard to understand *why* Clinton
ordered flags flown at half mast for *30 days* in honor of Nixon.
To my knowledge, this was unprecedented. I don't think even JFK
got the flag flown at half mast for 30 days. Talk about
collective insanity: 30 days for fu**ing Nixon!!
{2} "...Clinton as a coward and someone that shirked his duty..."
There were *many* who sought to avoid and/or avoided military
service during the Vietnam era. They keep repeating this "Clinton
the coward" stuff, and it's ridiculous.
But *why*? Why are they drumming this into our heads, this
"Clinton the coward that shirked his duty" baloney? Hypothesis:
Are they conditioning us to swallow some future law that we *not*
"shirk our duty"? Are they conditioning us to accept a re-
instatement of the draft? Are they conditioning us to "not be
'cowards' like Clinton"? Are they conditioning us to be cannon
fodder for another one of their wars?
Just conjecture. But then again, you tell me: Why all this
"Clinton the coward who shirked his duty" repeated again and
again?
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