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Conspiracy Nation Vol. 01 Num. 55
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 55
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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[From an interview with Linda Thompson on the *For the People*
radio show, Feb. 11, 1994. Host is Chuck Harder.]
[Continued...]
CHUCK HARDER: Linda Thompson is our guest.
And Linda, what you're saying is that from your, from your
perspective, when Gore and Reno and that bunch had their press
conference... and it is the worst nightmare of those who *do*
want to be able to own their own firearms.
Uh, we understand that in New York, a number of years ago, New
York said to people who had either semi-automatics or that type
of thing, "Just register them with us. Let us know that they're
there. Don't worry. We'll never bother you." And now, we
understand that they have actually gone house-to-house and picked
up these weapons.
Have you heard that?
LINDA THOMPSON: Oh absolutely. They use the 4473s [CN -- 4473s,
apparently some type of federal form] as a "shopping list."
Now the new crime bill, the Feinstein amendment to the crime bill
bans semi-automatic rifles; everything but the M-14, which um,
Ruger(?) was very successful in lobbying for his own exception.
But all the other semi-automatic rifles, any gun, any handgun,
that holds more than 10 rounds, any magazine that holds more than
10 rounds, are banned.
This was a very important piece of legislation that was virtually
*ignored* by the NRA [National Rifle Association], for instance,
and groups that are supposedly lobbying for gun rights.
Now once that passes, there's a so-called "grandfather clause"
that says, if you already own these guns you can keep 'em, but
you have to register them. And if you don't register them, you're
a felon! Now how are they going to find out, number one, that you
already have 'em? For instance, in a state like Indiana you could
buy them from another person and you don't have to register
anything. Um, so how are they gonna, first of all, find out that
you already have them, to enforce this? And number two, what are
they gonna do with the information about who already *does* own
them?
Now then. This week, a companion piece of so-called "law," that I
don't consider law at all, was when John McGaw, the head of the
ATF, former head of Secret Service, and former person in charge
of Presidential bodyguards -- he's now in charge of ATF -- passed
an administrative ruling banning .762 ammo. .762 x .39 ammo is
completely banned in this country right now. Now a lot of people
don't know that either.
Now that .762 ammo is used in AKS rifles, it's used in Mach-90s,
it's used in SKS rifles... essentially all of the rifles that are
the ones listed in the Feinstein amendment.
HARDER: Um-hmm [understands].
THOMPSON: Now. There's 2 ways that they can demand search and
seizure of your home: if you've been at a gun show and bought
this ammo, if you try to buy ammo. If you don't register your
guns, the very fact that you have the ammo now is illegal.
Um, so they can... This is going to be, I believe, a pretext for
doing house-to-house searches. And we already have them saying
then, on Thursday, they're going to *do* house-to-house searches!
This is happening. This is going to come down *now*. I don't
think we need it written on our foreheads to realize what's
happening here.
HARDER: All right. What does the government want? They, they want
all our guns, don't they?
THOMPSON: Uh, yeah. They want to disarm the American public, and
that accomplishes several purposes. One, they're not ever gonna
be able to disarm the American public. One of the polls that they
*don't* tell us is the CBS poll that says 67 percent of the
American public *will not* give up their guns. Uh, so they know
that. They're provoking a confrontation. First of all, we all
know that it is unconstitutional. What is being done here is
completely unconstitutional. Our second amendment rights were
never for hunting purposes. I've looked up and down the
Constitution, and I can't find the word "hunting" or "sporting"
in it anywhere. Our forefathers, if you read *any* of the
documents that are available about the writings of the founders
of the Constitution, things that they were *most* afraid of was
an over-powerful, centralized government...
HARDER: Um-hmm [agrees].
THOMPSON: ... a government that would disarm the public. They
were afraid of a standing army [i.e. a permanent army], for fear
that that army would be used on the American public. And
basically, the reason that they wrote the 2nd amendment (and at
that time, every man between the ages of 17 and 45 *was* "the
militia." So when they wrote that "a well-regulated militia being
necessary to a free state," they were talking about the entire
population of the united States. That was the "militia."), "the
right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed," that was, that is an absolute right. It's one of the
rights that is articulated as existing without any government
approval. You have that right, period, in this country.
So everything that's being done on gun regulation is
unconstitutional. And they... These people do not care! They're
very brazen about it. They're *promoting* a confrontation between
people that understand the Constitution and are demanding their
liberty. Because that one point is so essential to liberty. The
very reason to have guns is to *fight* tyranny! That's the
purpose of... in our Constitution.
HARDER: All right. But you and I both know, let's just be honest
here, you and I both know that the united States government plans
to disarm the united States of America, to take the guns from the
people...
THOMPSON: I don't think they do plan to disarm the people. I
think they plan to use it as a method of confrontation and
provocation.
HARDER: All right. Let's... all right. What do you mean by... all
right, what do you think the government is trying to do?
THOMPSON: They're trying to identify who will fight the New World
Order. And the best way to do that is target people that will
stand up and fight for their rights. You know, you shoot into a
crowd and see who screams. Well, they fired several different
volleys. What is getting the biggest reaction around the country,
causing controversy? Well gun control. What's the issue that's
most likely to provoke a confrontation and most likely to cause
chaos and terror and so forth in this country? Well they've found
it. This is the issue.
HARDER: This is the hot button. Well what frightens me, very
bluntly, and concerns me: First of all, the united States of
America *needs* taxpayers. And when people are out of work and
they become welfare cases, they cannot pay their taxes. As you
know, Zenith closed, essentially, their last plant in the united
States.
THOMPSON: But they must do this. They must make us all dependent
on the government teat.
HARDER: O.K. But my question is this: What they're going to wind
up doing is having it so that we have no guns, and there is no
economy {1}. So what do we do then, just starve at gunpoint?
We'll be right back with Linda Thompson.
(to be continued)
-----------------------<< Notes >>-------------------------------
{1} "...we have no guns, and there is no economy." Exactly. What
we are moving to is a society in which half of us are imprisoned
and the other half are guards. *That* is not going to work. At
some point something is going to have to give. We cannot have a
society where everyone is either a guard, a prisoner, a
bureaucrat, or a politician.
Along these same lines, you may ask: Well why not just make
*everyone* a policeman? We all know that policemen always obey
the law, so why not just make us all policemen? *That* would
solve the crime problem!
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