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Conspiracy Nation Vol. 01 Num. 15
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 15
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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[From an interview with Linda Thompson on the *For the People*
radio show, Feb. 11, 1994. Host is Chuck Harder.]
[Continued...]
CHUCK HARDER: Hello, everybody. Hi. Chuck Harder, *For The
People*.
Well there is some light shining on the Waco matter. And that
searchlight is directed by one Linda Thompson, who is an attorney
and who is investigating this independently. She has produced 2
videotapes. One has pretty much gone across the United States,
one way or another, called "Waco, the Big Lie." She's got a
totally new, updated version, with a *tremendous* amount of new
footage; stuff never been seen, a lot of it. Got in different
ways (and we'll not go into that.) But the point of it is... it's
called "Waco, the Big Lie Continues," and we're offering it
[...info on how to obtain...]
And Linda is on the line. And we're talking about the Waco
matter. Uh, where we left off last hour... we're now at the 911
tapes.
LINDA THOMPSON: Well you were asking about the proof of the
helicopters firing...
HARDER: Yeah. Right.
THOMPSON: ...first. And just a quick rundown of that: We have the
children's own stories that the helicopters fired into 'em.
Annetta Richards, who was one of the old ladies that came out
with the kids said that. Dick DeGuerin, the attorney who went in,
saw the roof was full of bullet holes -- *he* said that. He also
said that a nursing mother and a child had been killed in that
room. Then we have the "critique" of the ATF report by the
investigators, saying they should have used helicopters that
*had* firepower -- which is a lie, because we have a picture
showing one of the helicopters with a .308 machine gun in it, and
there were .308 bullets recovered from the upstairs room.
So all those things, so far, are proof of the helicopters firing
in. And then we also have the 911 tapes where the Branch
Davidians call the police and they say, throughout that 911 tape
you've got one fellow saying, "Here come the helicopters again!
And with more guys and more guns!" and "The helicopters are gonna
shoot down at us." You know, things like that, throughout the 911
tape...
HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
THOMPSON: ...talking about the helicopter firing on 'em!
HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
THOMPSON: So I have no doubt that that... you know, to me, that
is a given.
HARDER: O.K. Can we prove that the government and/or the
helicopters (which is also the government) fired first?
THOMPSON: Well, that is the only thing that makes sense. And you
can see the helicopters. The ATF report admits that the
helicopters got there about a half hour before they did. They got
there too soon.
HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
THOMPSON: And in the footage that *is* available, you can see the
helicopters off on the horizon coming back for a second pass. So
yes they *were* already there. Yes they *have* already been
across. And with all this other evidence that they fired into the
roof, it only makes sense that that's who fired first. Uh, and
that's what the Branch Davidians are saying too. The two... the
older lady that came out, she said that,...
HARDER: O.K.
THOMPSON: ...that that was the first firing which... You see,
what does that do? Whoever set this up was really pretty smart
because it makes both sides think the other side shot first. And
neither side is aware that it's coming from the helicopter at
that point.
And you remember the ATF, when they first reported all this, they
said, "They had a machine gun!" You know, "They had a .50 caliber
machine gun firing at us!" And then it turns out they didn't have
any .50 caliber machine gun. But the ATF wasn't crazy when they
were saying they heard machine gun fire. They were telling the
truth. It came from a .308, which is a fairly heavy caliber
machine gun, that was in the helicopter.
HARDER: All right. So... So here we have, essentially, a
government that through its agents has murdered citizens -- call
it what you like. And now you tell me that they are essentially
throwing the trial, so that some, or many, of the Branch
Davidians who survived will most likely be acquitted.
What does that mean?
THOMPSON: Well, they're controlling... The whole thing from
beginning to end has been damage control on what's gonna be
released to the public. What they *don't* want the public to
know, from the first day, is that they killed children. 'Cause
you remember, all the propaganda that came out was: They were
doing this *because* of the children. We were all supposed to
believe that this was out of concern for the children; that
somehow they're going to protect these children and save these
children. That was the pitch. That was the angle that they chose
to pitch this from.
HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
THOMPSON: Last thing they could afford to do is admit that they
killed kids the first day.
And then the last bit of cover-up that we're getting, for the
final day they killed children, too. There were 17 children under
the age of 5 killed in the final conflagration. So they can't
admit [any responsibility for] that either.
*All* of what we're seeing right now is damage control, to make
sure that just enough gets out that the same story is
perpetuated: That David Koresh was a lunatic, these people were
brainwashed, it's all their fault -- but these particular people
[on trial] probably didn't do too much (that they're going to get
acquittals on). *That's* going to be the story. That's what
they're doing is damage control.
The *real* story is, the ATF raided this place and they did use a
plan that was configured in conjunction with Special Forces. The
head of the team, Bill Buford, is ex-Special Forces. All the
planning was done hand-in-hand with 7th Special Forces out of
Fort Bragg. That is in the ATF report.
HARDER: All right, now wait a minute. Let's do this: a quick 2
minute break here. But when we come back, I want to know what the
original plan was -- according to the information you have --
what was the original plan? And why?
We'll be right back, with Linda Thompson.
(to be continued)
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