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The Avalyn Digest Sat Dec 7, 1996 Volume 1 : Issue 16
There are 41 messages totalling 794 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. New photos
2. Siouxsie & Banshees: Slowdive (4)
3. your biggest fan (2)
4. AVALYN
5. the cardigans
6. blue day / outside your room (12)
7. Silvania order #2 in the works...
8. Slowdive EP with Swervedriver music (2)
9. blue day owners raise your hands (6)
10. more blueday questions (7)
11. Wanted! RHP Bootlegs!
12. *holding our breath*/*blue day*
13. Slowdive reissues (2)
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:13:07 +0100
From: "David Bluhm" <davidbluhm@cww.de>
Subject: New photos
Hello there -
just a short note informing you that I've put up a few more Mojave 3
photos on my web-site for my Baby Talk - Fanzine. Just click on Issue
9 and then on Mojave 3...
yours tired,
but still optimistically paranoid,
David
http://members.aol.com/dabluhm/babytalk.htm
http://members.aol.com/lushpix/index.htm
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:36:06 +0200 (EET)
From: Peter Peltonen <pisara@final.dystopia.fi>
Subject: Siouxsie & Banshees: Slowdive
get your heaad down to the ground
shake it all around - a dirty sound
put your knees into your face
and see if you can race - real slow
it's a slowdive - when you die slow
oh, it's a low jive - do the slowdive
now jump back like a hound
emit a howling sound
dig those limbs into the floor
and holler out for more
and you revel in the tips
when your backbone slips
taking honeysuckle sips
from your rolling hips
it shifts and shifts
it's a slowdive - when you die slow
when you come alive it's a low jive
do the slowdive
--
Peter
pisara@dystopia.fi
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:06:57 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (superbacana)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie & Banshees: Slowdive
>get your heaad down to the ground
>shake it all around - a dirty sound
(etc.)
Actually, the song has nothing to do with the band name. Rachel was the only
Siouxsie fan in Slowdive - the others absolutely *hated* them. The name came
to Neil in a dream, apparently.
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:54:31 -0500 (GMT-0500)
From: Avalyn <a9530171@pucp.edu.pe>
Subject: Re: Siouxsie & Banshees: Slowdive
I am not sure , i have a a past article from Zillo (1991), where says that
the name is from the Siouxsie and the Banshees song...,
I will see if can send it to you ...
take care .
David.
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:14:42 +0100 (MET)
From: cfsa0681@vm1.ulaval.ca (Christian Morin)
Subject: your biggest fan
I'm the biggest fan of all you've done in the past, specially "Just for a
day" and "Souvlaki" i just want to know what is going on right now, are you
recording a new album?
Chris
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:50:01 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (superbacana)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie & Banshees: Slowdive
> I am not sure, i have a a past article from Zillo (1991), where says that
> the name is from the Siouxsie and the Banshees song...,
> I will see if can send it to you ...
I definitely remember reading an article where the interviewer brings up the
subject of Siouxsie (Rachel's reaction was something like "Fucking superb!
No one ever asks me about them in interviews!"). She explained that the
others in the band loathed the Banshees. The story about Neil getting the
name from a dream is pretty well-known.
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:51:15 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (superbacana)
Subject: Re: your biggest fan
>I'm the biggest fan of all you've done in the past, specially "Just for a
>day" and "Souvlaki" i just want to know what is going on right now, are you
>recording a new album?
>Chris
Neil replies: Well, some time ago we stopped being Slowdive, lost a few
members, gained some others, became Mojave, then Mojave 3, put away most of
our effects pedals...
Seriously, though, this list is for people who want to discuss
Slowdive/Mojave 3 and similar stuff. The band don't actually participate,
although Rachel corresponds with some listies sometimes.
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:14:06 -0500 (GMT-0500)
From: "David Sanchez V." <a9530171@pucp.edu.pe>
Subject: AVALYN
Hello evrybody !..
i was talking with my friend , and she wanted (and me as well) know what's
the meaning from Avalyn .
regards,
David.
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Date: 2 Dec 1996 08:56:48 PST
From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com
Subject: the cardigans
i was looking through a magazine and they mentioned that the cardigans
have a song called "Celia's Dream" on their album first band on the
moon.
Is this a cover of the Slowdive song at all? Or is a reference to
something similar? :O
on another old note, i got shallow's '3d stereo trouble.' They're from
Lawrence, Kansas. It's not bad.
etc.
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:36:44 EST5EDT
From: jbrown@bgs.com
Subject: blue day / outside your room
i am looking for "blue day" and "outside your room" on cd (heck, i'd
even settle for a tape copy!)
i have a few slowdive things of interest to trade (copies only,
sorry...)
5ep and their self-titled ep.
thanx.
jeff
jbrown@bgs.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:00:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! <eleven@grove.ufl.EDU>
Subject: Silvania order #2 in the works...
Hello everyone,
For those of you who couldn't get in on the action the 1st time around,
I will be ordering more Silvania stuff in early to mid-January. So if
anyone is interested, please let me know what you would like. I would like
to request that everyone pay in advance, if possible, but please don't
send anything until I get back to you personally. I am only going to order
if enough people want it. Since the shipping from Spain is more outrageous
than I originally thought (last order was $35 shipping), I will have to
mark the prices up for the CDs and LPs. The costs will probably be $15 for
CDs and $12 for LPs, plus shipping. It may be less, but I don't want to do
a definate quote until I know how many people are interested. The more
people who are, the less the cost will be.
Anyhow, just let me know what you would like to order when the time
comes, and I should be able to get back with everyone within a week. So
please respond soon if you have interest.
Thanks!
Daniel
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 12:28:43 -0500
From: "...all waiting for the rain" <rainboy@net66.com>
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
i have blue day i could copy for you. let me know if we can work
something out.
thanks.
rainboy
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:04:06 +0100
From: rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi)
Subject: Slowdive EP with Swervedriver music
I own a wrong-pressed copy of the first Slowdive EP (the "version" with the
music from Swervedriver's album "Raise", as reported on the Erik's
discography). Does someone knows if it is considered a collectable item?
Ciao.
Rolando.
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 14:59:14 -0800
From: Viet <avle@slip.net>
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
jbrown@bgs.com wrote:
>
> i am looking for "blue day" and "outside your room" on cd (heck, i'd
> even settle for a tape copy!)
>
> i have a few slowdive things of interest to trade (copies only,
> sorry...)
>
> 5ep and their self-titled ep.
>
> thanx.
> jeff
> jbrown@bgs.com
I'm curious to see how many people on this list actually have blue day
on cd. I'm not one of them.
viet
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 17:20:35 CST
From: o-o-o <gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU>
Subject: blue day owners raise your hands
I'll bite here, Viet.
I have Blue Day, as well as the ep's it (mostly) comprises.
--gary
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 18:58:25 -0500
From: avalyn@chesco.com
Subject: Re: blue day owners raise your hands
I have blue day by itself, with the limited Souvlaki double cd, and i have
all the eps on cd plus Holding Our Breath on 7", yippee!! One really needs
to have the eps so you have those two other songs not on blueday (Avalyn2
and Golden Hair).
bye ryan
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:01:32 -0800
From: mnewf@cats.ucsc.edu (Mindy Newfarmer)
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
At 2:59 PM 12/4/96, Viet wrote:
>I'm curious to see how many people on this list actually have blue day
>on cd. I'm not one of them.
>
>viet
My copy of Blue Day came with my copy of Souvlaki, the import version.
Mindy
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:04:05 -0500 (EST)
From: international playboy <jbriante@uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Re: blue day owners raise your hands
Hi,
I have the blue day with souvlaki, and its autographed! hee hee. i don't
think i'll be selling this baby.
joey
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:25:34 -0600 (CST)
From: sara johnson <sjohns32@d.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
i have blue day, and it's the one cd that i absolutely will not part
with-i seem to be the only one around here with the regular release (not
the souvlaki one) but it does have that cool japanese paper thing on it.
sara
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 20:27:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Thorne <fearless@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
So.....there were like 2000 souvlaki/blueday's and lots more of the french
and japanese versions since it was just a normal release for a few years.
how many people are on the list? i'd say about half of us have one of the
three versions. end of thread? please???? :)
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:43:57 -0500 (EST)
From: lorelei tremolor <lfl3858@is4.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: blue day owners raise your hands
i own blue day on cd- not the souvlaki one, just the regular one. it's a
blue cd. what color is the souvlaki blue day cd?
lorelei fried
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:34:37 +0100 (MET)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Slowdive EP with Swervedriver music
On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi) wrote about
Slowdive EP with Swervedriver music:
> I own a wrong-pressed copy of the first Slowdive EP (the "version" with the
> music from Swervedriver's album "Raise", as reported on the Erik's
> discography). Does someone knows if it is considered a collectable item?
According to the Swervedriver guys, it is a rare item. I have heard
different things about how many copies were made before they realized
the error, everything from 200 to 1000, but a 1000 copy edition is
pretty limited sort of.
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:34:58 +0100 (MET)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
On Wed, 04 Dec 1996, Viet <avle@slip.net> wrote about blue day / outside
your room:
> I'm curious to see how many people on this list actually have blue day
> on cd. I'm not one of them.
Yes, I have it on CD.
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:23:19 -0800
From: Viet <avle@slip.net>
Subject: Re: blue day owners raise your hands
o-o-o wrote:
>
> I'll bite here, Viet.
> I have Blue Day, as well as the ep's it (mostly) comprises.
> --gary
I should have asked this earlier to everyone who has blue day. When,
where, and how much did you get it for? I'm just wondering because blue
day must be the rarest slowdive cd around. right?
-Viet
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:33:22 -0800
From: Viet <avle@slip.net>
Subject: more blueday questions
sara johnson wrote:
>
> i have blue day, and it's the one cd that i absolutely will not part
> with-i seem to be the only one around here with the regular release (not
> the souvlaki one) but it does have that cool japanese paper thing on it.
>
> sara
I guess it's the original release that I'm talking about. I didn't know
blue day was released with souvlaki, on import, right? Did the release
with souvlaki come as a double cd, did it have all the songs from the
original, and did it have the same art?
Bye,
Viet
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 01:58:42 -0500
From: avalyn@chesco.com
Subject: Re: more blueday questions
At 10:33 PM 12/4/96 -0800, you wrote:
>I guess it's the original release that I'm talking about. I didn't know
>blue day was released with souvlaki, on import, right? Did the release
>with souvlaki come as a double cd, did it have all the songs from the
>original, and did it have the same art?
The Souvlaki/blueday cd looks just like the regular import Souvlaki (not the
domestic though). It's one of those cases where the actual black tray
thingy swings out. It does have all the same songs on it.
bye ryan
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:14:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Thorne <fearless@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: more blueday questions
On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Viet wrote:
> I guess it's the original release that I'm talking about. I didn't know
> blue day was released with souvlaki, on import, right? Did the release
> with souvlaki come as a double cd, did it have all the songs from the
> original, and did it have the same art?
Blue Day was released on Creation (made in France as most of their cds
were) with a cover that looked like cracked glass with, oh i can't
remember what was behind the glass. the Japanese version (same tracks)
came with lyrics I believe. I think the Japanese version stayed in print
longer than the UK one. It was then stuck in with the first 2000 (?)
copies of Souvlaki. a sticker on the front cover was the only mention of
the bonus cd. it had the same songs as the original but the cd was black
with blue lettering, done in the style of the UK souvlaki cd. There was
no information about the cd in souvlaki's little booklet.
Blue Day was not rare, not at all, when it was in print. I saw it at the
local Tower often in '92, more often than Just For A Day. I bought mine
for $17. It was a "mini-album", hence the price. I got the import
souvlaki w/blue day for around $23 (normal import price)
The only reasons it's rare now are 1) it probably didn't sell well, which
is why it's out of print 2) people who bought it want to hang on to it.
the bonus cds that came with souvlaki are rare since 2000 is a very small
number.
If i remember right, Holding OUr Breath was the first of the eps to go out
of print. I'm still not so sure that the other two aren't still
available. For the record, i've seen blue day sell for as much as $60 and
Holding Our Breath for as much as $65.
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:53:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! <eleven@grove.ufl.EDU>
Subject: Re: blue day owners raise your hands
On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, o-o-o wrote:
> I'll bite here, Viet.
> I have Blue Day, as well as the ep's it (mostly) comprises.
Arghh!!!! Then why don't you sell some poor soul Blue Day since you have
the songs already!?!?!?!?!?
Daniel
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:13:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! <eleven@grove.ufl.EDU>
Subject: Re: more blueday questions
> available. For the record, i've seen blue day sell for as much as $60 and
> Holding Our Breath for as much as $65.
My roommate picked it up at the local store here about 2 years ago in the
used bin for $6.99. Hee hee! (except I must say I am a bit jealous). This
was before we even knew Blue Day existed and he was just like "Hey cool."
and bought it. Hrmph...
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:15:28 EST5EDT
From: jbrown@bgs.com
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
viet,
> I'm curious to see how many people on this list actually have blue day
> on cd. I'm not one of them.
>
> viet
in my many travels, i have only met one person who actually had blue
day on cd. she said that it came bundled up with the souvlaki
release.
i suppose i can be happy. at least i had the chance to see slowdive
in concert before they changed to mojave3.
jeff
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:12:13 -0500
From: Matt/Summer Holiday <mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu>
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
I bought Blue Day probably 4 or 5 years ago right after "Just for a Day"
came out. It was originally a Creation promo disc but ended up getting
sold in the US. I had no idea there was a Japanese version though.
I also got a copy of it with the import Souvlaki but I gave it to a
friend of mine...
I also have the autographed "Holding Our Breath" "Morningrise" ,
"Outside Your Room" 5EP and "Slowdive" EPs. on CD and Vinyl. Where were
all you guys when these were released? They were easy to find then.
-Viet... if me to copy anything, let me know.
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 11:13:08 -0600
From: mps2@cec.wustl.edu (Michael Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
may as well chime in....
I've got Blue Day (autographed by Rachel) and all the EPs that make it up...
everyone should have "Shine" and "Golden Hair" :)
-Mike
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:18:17 EST5EDT
From: jbrown@bgs.com
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
> may as well chime in....
>
> I've got Blue Day (autographed by Rachel) and all the EPs that make it up...
> everyone should have "Shine" and "Golden Hair" :)
anyone turning green with envy yet...?!
hmmm. perhaps someone should post these ep's as .wav files. i can
then make cd's from them.
unless it's illegal to do that.
who knows.
jeff
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:23:03 -0500
From: mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu (Matt Walburn/Summer Holiday)
Subject: Wanted! RHP Bootlegs!
Hey out there!
I was wondering if anyone out there has any RHP bootlegs that they'd like
to share. I don't have any myself but I would be willing to copy anything
from shoegazer days of olde that people might be looking for!
Let me know... thanks
Matt Walburn
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 14:41:46 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan <sumcgowa@vt.edu>
Subject: *holding our breath*/*blue day*
Greetings everyone.
Just a snippet of advice for all you fellow slowdivers out there who're
still scouring the earth for the 'holding our breath' ep...don't give up! I
managed to luck upon a completely autographed copy (of the 'original'
line-up; i.e. with drummer simon) in a used cd shop a few months back for
the economical price of $10! (yikes. $65???) hee-hee!
that is all.
~susan (feeling really unhappy tho', 'cause she can't for the life of her
find 'blue day'...)
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:32:54 -0500 (EST)
From: grilledcheese <hotrod@grove.ufl.EDU>
Subject: Re: blue day / outside your room
On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 jbrown@bgs.com wrote:
> hmmm. perhaps someone should post these ep's as .wav files. i can
> then make cd's from them.
>
> unless it's illegal to do that.
>
> who knows.
> jeff
who cares, ill pay you for copies. how much would you want anyway if you
were to make a cd of stuff?
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 04:47:06 +0100 (MET)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: more blueday questions
On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Aaron Thorne <fearless@u.washington.edu> wrote about
more blueday questions:
> Blue Day was released on Creation (made in France as most of their cds
> were) with a cover that looked like cracked glass with, oh i can't
> remember what was behind the glass.
It looks like the docks, umm, a shipyard or something like that, with
large cranes (or one large crane) - it might just be the London docks
in fact.
The original CD was released in Scandinavia, Benelux, France and Japan
only. (It is time for me to update the discography, I know, though
it's all in there now..)
> It was then stuck in with the first 2000 (?) copies of Souvlaki.
No, only the first 1000 copies even. And it was available in both
the UK and the US, so perhaps only 500 copies reached each country?
> If i remember right, Holding Our Breath was the first of the eps to go out
> of print. I'm still not so sure that the other two aren't still available.
> For the record, i've seen blue day sell for as much as $60 and Holding Our
> Breath for as much as $65.
The interesting thing here is that Creation has apparently re-issued most
of the Slowdive catalog recently. That's what one of the record mailorder
places I frequent says at least, and I believe them, as they have at least
the albums in stock, now labeled "re-issue". Though I don't know about the
singles and EPs.
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:34:40 +0000
From: gruisinger@pop.umkc.edu
Subject: Re: more blueday questions
> On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Aaron Thorne <fearless@u.washington.edu> wrote about
> more blueday questions:
...snip...
> The original CD was released in Scandinavia, Benelux, France and Japan
> only. (It is time for me to update the discography, I know, though
> it's all in there now..)
>
> > It was then stuck in with the first 2000 (?) copies of Souvlaki.
>
> No, only the first 1000 copies even. And it was available in both
> the UK and the US, so perhaps only 500 copies reached each country?
Okay, I have a question here. I am fairly sure Souvlaki didn't come
out domestic in the US until well after the UK release (months at
least). So what did they do, hold back 500 copies of Blue Day?
> The interesting thing here is that Creation has apparently re-issued most
> of the Slowdive catalog recently. That's what one of the record mailorder
> places I frequent says at least, and I believe them, as they have at least
> the albums in stock, now labeled "re-issue". Though I don't know about the
> singles and EPs.
Which mailorder company would you be referring to?
--gary (gruisinger@cctr.umkc.edu)
----------------------------
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:04:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Thorne <fearless@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: more blueday questions
On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 gruisinger@pop.umkc.edu wrote:
> > No, only the first 1000 copies even. And it was available in both
> > the UK and the US, so perhaps only 500 copies reached each country?
>
> Okay, I have a question here. I am fairly sure Souvlaki didn't come
> out domestic in the US until well after the UK release (months at
> least). So what did they do, hold back 500 copies of Blue Day?
the only copies that were available in the US were imported from the UK.
I'm sure only a small fraction of the first 1000 came to the US. SBK
didn't release Souvlaki in the US until 8 months after it came out in the
UK, which is why they added the extra tracks (to get people who already
had the import to buy the domestic version).
> > The interesting thing here is that Creation has apparently re-issued most
> > of the Slowdive catalog recently. That's what one of the record mailorder
> > places I frequent says at least, and I believe them, as they have at least
> > the albums in stock, now labeled "re-issue". Though I don't know about the
> > singles and EPs.
>
> Which mailorder company would you be referring to?
Erik, so the only ones you've seen reissued are JFAD, Souvlaki, and
Pygmalion? If so i wouldn't take that to mean the singles & eps have been
reissued too. But what do i know. JFAD was one of the 10 or 12 creation
"classics" reissued earlier this year so maybe this is what's going on.
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:19:26 -0600
From: mps2@cec.wustl.edu (Michael Peter Stein)
Subject: Slowdive reissues
I know for sure that the first 2 Slowdive EPs have been reissued (Creation's
a money hungry corporate piece of crap now, they'll do anything for a few
extra quid). A friend of mine who lives smack dab in the middle of Missouri
got in the first 2, but they're now on Nimbus discs, not MPO. But I think
the 3rd (the best) EP hasn't been reissued.
I dunno why you people are having so much trouble finding this stuff, I
bought most of my stuff last year still (first pressings too) and didn't
pay collector's prices and I'm not in a very big city...oh well.
-Mike
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:49:54 EST5EDT
From: jbrown@bgs.com
Subject: Re: Slowdive reissues
> I know for sure that the first 2 Slowdive EPs have been reissued (Creation's
> a money hungry corporate piece of crap now, they'll do anything for a few
> extra quid). A friend of mine who lives smack dab in the middle of Missouri
> got in the first 2, but they're now on Nimbus discs, not MPO. But I think
> the 3rd (the best) EP hasn't been reissued.
which ep's have been reissued? what are the titles?
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