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Scandinavian Indie Digest Vol 03 Issue 44
Scandinavian Indie Digest Sat Oct 26, 1996 Volume 3 : Issue 44
There are 24 messages totalling 962 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Non-Scan: Lush drummer dead
2. Booking Agencies - some thoughts (8)
3. Life has it's charm
4. Sin's Selected News [20-Oct-96]
5. Latvian Alternative and Indie (4)
6. Words like silence (2)
7. DATES...
8. Mana Mana (more)
9. Motor Tour List _Update_ [22-Oct-96]
10. Gigs in Sthlm (2)
11. Alternative and Indie (2)
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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 03:38:27 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Non-Scan: Lush drummer dead
I know this isn't Scan-Indie related, but in case no-one heard, it's
really a sad day:
from the NME web site
http://www.nme.com/961019/news/newflash.html
LUSH drummer Chris Acland was found dead at his parents home in
Cumbria on Thursday, October 17. He was found dead by his father; he had
hung himself. Chris, 30, was a founder member of the band; he had recently
returned from a US tour with the band and had said that he was unsure
whether to join them for forthcoming European dates. A session drummer had
been brought into the band to rehearse for those dates pending his
decision.
One close friend of Chris's who had spoken to him recently said: "If he
was depressed enough to do this, it must have happened very suddenly. He
seemed fine."
As NME went to press, the future plans of Lush were unclear. They are
still booked to play European dates and were due to enter the studio early
next year to begin work on a new album.
Full Obituary in next week's issue.
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:09:32 +0200 (MET DST)
From: burrito <burrito@ludd.luth.se>
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
According to chief@lysator.liu.se:
> Last night when Mazarine Street played here (actually a pretty amazing gig -
> it was some time ago I saw a band play with so much heart, especially the
> drummer and the guy on bass) I learned that they (too) have recently
> switched to the EMA Telstar booking agency, which means that they won't
> take less than 10.000 SEK for a gig (this gig was the last one booked
> pre-EMA Telstar) from now on.
This is a tragedy, who the hell is supposed to be able to pay this kind
of money for a band of Mazarine Street's size? No wonder the swedish
"indie" scene is choking on its own vomit.
Nothing wrong with Mazarine Street's music though, the 'Get it on' 7"
is one of my absolute favourite releases by any swedish band this year
(unless it was released in 1995, how am i supposed to remember).
Petter
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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:22:41 +0200
From: micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom)
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
>I wonder if these bands think they will make it big if they are signed
>to the largest booking agency in Sweden, or if it is the agency that has
>started to notice that "oh, these new pop bands, that only Motor and Luger
>previously have handled, bring in a lot of money - let's sign a couple" ??
>Both of these "thoughts" are really sad, if that's how it is.
In my opinion it seems as if large parts of the indie scene and the record
companies have gone mad. Some bands, record companies (and booking
agencies) think that a band will get big if only it has "the right sound".
This means that all bands with this sound get signed to, more or less, big
record companies and booking agencies. I mean, bands like Chevy and Melony
would never have been signed to any company some 6 or 7 years ago and that
is not because they had "the wrong sound" at that time, but because they
are no good! Good bands always get signed (except for Agurk Players then),
if just not by a "big one" directly.
/Micke
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:11:59 +0200
From: totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)
Subject: Life has it's charm
Hi!
On Wednesday Superswirls and Mismates play in Stockholm at Studion.
It's a great opportunity to see one of the most interesting band Sweden
has 1996. Superswirls will release their debut album in November....and
it's great!
also I just like to tell everybody, Gentle Tuesday will have a Cd5 out in
the 25th of November....check it out!
totte pop
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 05:08:48 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Sin's Selected News [20-Oct-96]
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Scandinavian Indie SELECTED NEWS Scandinavian Indie
October 20th, 1996
by Erik Soderstrom (chief@lysator.liu.se)
"Remember where you heard it first"
Contents:
23 Till, aBLe, Blake Carringtons, Brazzaville, Bunboy, The Cardigans,
Doris Days, Eggstone, Fireside, Gentle Tuesday, Happy Todd, Lemonator,
Leslies, Loosegoats, Lousy, Memento Materia, P3 Live, Raj Harder Festival,
Refused, Rolling Stone, Shallow Soundwave, Startracks, Yvonne.
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23 Till - (Beat Butchers), the trio from Norrkoping have decided to throw in
the towel and retire to the vast and lonely fields. They celebrate
this decision with a farewell concert at Kulturkammaren in Norrkoping
on October 26th and one in Stockholm at Tantogarden on November 29th.
The reasons behind the break-up are somewhat mysterious, rumours say
there were fights within the close circle of the band as well as
rough infirmities of old age. Straight answers are impossible to
get to the questions raised. "I own the rights to the name, and I
can't rule out that, within a couple of years, I'll go on tour
accompanied by two 19-year old german musicians and play old 23 Till
hits", says singer and guitarist Janne Abrahamsson. Bass-player
Micke Pihlblad refuses to comment the break-up and refers to his
lawyer, who in turn looks at starting judicial proceedings. For the
drummer, Par Andersson, the news about the break-up came as a
surprise. "But it suits me pretty well. The tough drum work has
given me a nasty tennis elbow", he says. Though all members of the
band have hopes for pleasant farewell concerts.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
aBLe - (Harry Lime) are about to shoot a video for one of the songs on their
recently released debut album "Prestigeless Lovesounds", though they
have not decided for which song yet. The band "Jumprope" from the US
who are included on the upcoming Harry Lime compilation CD "A Twist
of Lime" to be released in November, was recently reviewed in a San
Francisco magazine where they recieved the highest score, and the
reviewer said that "they remind me a bit of aBLe." (!) The reason
behind this might be that aBLe, together with Leslies and Pineforest
Crunch, are currently receiving airplay on a SF radio station.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Blake Carringtons - have been (and still are?) in the studio recording
something exciting. They say it will be a lot of
Stones and Jon Spencer, though in Formula 1 speed,
that is to say, they have changed their style! Stay
tuned! (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Brazzaville - formerly known as "Tongue Gongue", that's right, they did
finally change their name, after months and months of hints
from reviewers, friends and whatnot, that the name had to
be changed. :-) (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Bunboy - a newly started Uppsala band featuring Erik Hellstrom and Anders
Nilsson from aBLe made their debut at Kalmar Nation's pop festival
September 27th in Uppsala. Their sound can be described as
american rock, powerful music mixed with sensitive, more silent
pieces, sort of like Pavement and Superchunk. Stay tuned for more
news about this band! (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
The Cardigans - (Trampolene) 's concert at Lee's Palace in Toronto, Canada on
September 7th will be broadcasted on the CBC "Real Time"
program on November 16th. The set list is as follows: Iron Man,
Your New Cuckoo, Sick and Tired, Hey Get Out of My Way,
Step On Me, Love Fool, Fine, Been It, Celia Inside, Rise and
Shine, Carnival, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. The broadcast starts
at 6pm PT (9pm ET) (i guess for Sweden that would be +6 hours?)
Check out: http://realtime.cbcstereo.com.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Doris Days - (Some Pearls) release their debut album "Live In Poland" on
October 25th following the video and single "Quiet Withdrawal"
released earlier. Doris Days is the first band on Slask Records'
sub-label Some Pearls. The members, Lisa Carlioth, Markus Gylling
and Mike Barrett are originally from Linkoping, but live in
Stockholm today. The album was put together with help from
Erik Holmberg (member of the band DIVE and producer of Stina
Nordenstam's album "And She Closed Her Eyes"). The upcoming
Scandinavian Indie review reveals a sound that best can be
described as extremely pleasant urban trip-hop/ambient.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Eggstone - (Vibrafon) 's gig at the Lollipop Festival was recorded by Swedish
National Radio (P3 Live) as many of you could see, but even though
everyone thought that the gig was great, the band was very
displeased, and felt that they were just too "rusty" because
they had not played live for such a long time, so they told
P3 Live that they didn't want them to broadcast it! And therefor,
P3 Live will not broadcast the concert. (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Fireside - (StartRec) are busy with their international career. Their
second album "Do Not Tailgate" has been out on the international
market about a month now. They have recently toured the US and
will go on tour in Europe during the autumn (starting october 31st
in Amsterdam, Holland). Their new single, called "Interlace" is
released in Scandinavia on October 21st. Two editions of the single
is released: 1) a 2-track CD5 with "Interlace" (from "Do Not
Tailgate") and "Styrofoam" (from the "The Fantastic Four" album
released on A West Side Fabrication in 1994), 2) a 4-track limited
edition CD5 with two extra tracks: an old lost and suddenly found
demo-track and their Prince-cover from the "Purple Pain"
compilation. Check out: http://www.cabal.se/startrec/fireside/.
(Source: Startracks newsletter)
Gentle Tuesday - from Eskilstuna are next to release something on the now
well-known label Dorian Records. The band will release
a CD single, and the release date is set to November 25th.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Happy Todd - from Kalmar will be included on an upcoming compilation album
released by a Nykoping-fanzine called "Spinsign". The band
appears on the compilation with two songs. More information
will follow. (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Lemonator - (Warner) from Finland have, as you can see, been signed to Warner
Records. They were signed after having opened for none other than
Bon Jovi (!). It is not as scary as it seems though - the band
got picked out from 400 (!) competing unsigned bands for the slot!
They say the crowd at the concert really liked them, and after
the gig they received offers from several record companies. After
some negotiation with Warner, BMG, PolyGram and several indie
labels, they decided that Warner was the best option, expressing
their excitement about their music, and not concerned about the
fact that they opened for Bon Jovi, which apparently was the main
reason for some of the other labels. In fact, Warner had also
contacted the band prior to all this. Their debut album is going
to be produced by Janne Haavisto & Tom Nyman. First up though is
a single (and a song) called "Superb". It is a loud, fast, melodic
tune in the style of their previous "hit" Dinosaur. Release date
is set for late October/early November. The album should be out
early February next year. The band was also recently picked as
Helsinki's best popband by the bi-weekly City-magazine.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Leslies - (Harry Lime) ' debut album "Totally Brilliant", which was released
during the summer of 1996, has sold about 3.500 copies in Sweden so
far. The album will be released in Japan on major label Columbia/
Nippon in November. (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Loosegoats - (StartRec) released their EP "Country Crock" on October 14th,
and are currently touring Sweden together with Dipper and
Pornostar (on the Popstad Lund tour) which is said to start
in Lund on October 22nd (Mejeriet) (though they did play in
Gothenburg on the 19th) and end in Umea on November 1st
(though they are scheduled to play in Sundsvall on the 2nd)
where they will hand over the "Popstad" label to Umea, which
has been voted the new Popstad. After the tour, the band will
spend a month in the studio to record their debut album,
expected to be released in February next year. More info at:
http://www.cabal.se/startrec/loosegoats/.
(Source: Startracks newsletter / Scandinavian Indie)
Lousy - (Sappy) recently released a 6-song 7" single on Canadian label Sappy
Records. This single is now available in Sweden through Freak Scene,
Delicious Goldfish (both in Stockholm) and Hot Stuff Records (in
Almhult). You can also order it directly from the band by contacting
<magnus@lousy.pp.se>. There was an interview with Magnus from Lousy
on Stockholms Student radio a couple of weeks ago and the single was
put on their A-list, which means they are playing a song from it
every day. Lousy have also received airplay on the Canadian National
Radio and on several College stations. (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Memento Materia - have released a bunch of new records. First upp is
Covenant with their CD "Sequencer" and CD-maxi "Stalker".
The band is probably Sweden's biggest electro-techno
hybrid. They are going on tour in Germany in November
together with Steril and Haujobb. Second band: Mesh
with their CD "In this place forever". This band is
actually from Bristol, and is said to administer the
heritage from Depeche Mode and Nine Inch Nails very
well. Third and last: The April Tears with their CD5
"Heart shut down/hardcoming", which will be released
in the middle of November. Swedish indie popsters to
be reckoned with. (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
P3 Live - the program on swedish national radio recorded these artists
and bands at the Lollipop Festival in Stockholm this summer:
Stereolab, Lionrock, Pharcyde, Wu Tang Clan, Chemical Brothers
(Vegas stage) and Beck, Bob Hund (Stage 1) and Eggstone, Leila K
(Stage 2). (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Raj Harder - a Rock Festival in November? That's right! Raj Harder takes
place in Koping between November 1st and 2nd. Bands currently
listed on the line-up include: Abhinanda, bob hund, De Lyckliga
Kompisarna, Elakelaiset, FleshQuartet, Girliegerm, Guineapigs,
Hellacopters, Human Error, Kung Sol, Liberator, Mindjive, Naid,
Sator, Singer, Somersault, Souls, The Soundtrack of Our Lives,
Stun. About 10 additional bands are to be announced. Info:
Tickets: 2-Day ticket - 200 SEK (1-Day ticket is only released
if the 1.500 2-Day tickets are not sold one week before the
festival takes place). Phone: +46-(0)70-5442420 (Peter) or
+46-(0)221-21050 (Per). Address: Raj Harder, Box 166, 731 24
Koping, SWEDEN. Festival Phone: +46-(0)221-23010, Fax:
+46-(0)221-23016. Further information can be found on the Web
at: http://www.koping.se/stadskult/. (Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Refused - (StartRec) are now seriously making use of vast opportunities of
the WWW. Sick of all the record companies' tiresome homepages,
they have, together with Cabal, tried to create a little more
entertaining homepage with more information, more exclusive
material and more links to use. During the autumn, their pages
will go through some serious updates, and feature goodies like
these: Gig guide, Video footage, Competitions, Live footage,
exclusive premiere for the Di Leva/Refused co-operation song,
their "Handbook for Revolutionaries, part 1" (which is out of
print) and "Handbook for Revolutionaries, part 2" which is
only released on their homepage. That is to say, check out:
http://www.cabal.se/startrec/refused/.
(Source: Startracks newsletter)
Rolling Stone - the Australian version of the famous magazine are planning
to have an article about Scandinavian Indie in one of their
upcoming issues. That is, not _this_ Scandinavian Indie, but
independent music coming from Scandinavia. They say that the
recent explosion of indie bands from Sweden that has been
hitting their shores and radio airwaves lies behind the
decision. Burning Heart and North Of No South distributors
in Australia have helped out with information, as the swedish
independent music that is growing popular there seems to fall
into two broad categories - surf-punk and its harder components
(ie. Millencolin, 59 Times the Pain), and something they call
"quirky" pop, mentioning The Cardigans and The Wannadies.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Shallow Soundwave - from Gothenburg will play at Underground in the same
city soon - stay tuned for the exact date. While you
are waiting, you might want to know that their new
demo has just been mastered, and is almost ready for
distribution! The band has also added a new member on
bass. Erik is his name, and isn't that a great name!? :-)
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Startracks - will start a label called (surprise!) "Startracks" this autumn!
They are currently managing Fireside, Loosegoats and Refused,
but will have bands like Candysuck, J Church (US), Monster and
Nine on the label. More bands are to be announced.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
Yvonne - (Energy) 's debut album is to be released in Germany in November,
though it will not have the same song order, and will include
the song 'Drifter', released earlier on the single "Wires" and
also appeared on the first Kittenish compilation CD. An official
homepage for the band is also in the making.
(Source: Scandinavian Indie)
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All news always at: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/selnews.html
Quote the source, _and the link_, if Scandinavian Indie is the source!
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:13:58 +0200 (EET)
From: Roberts Galvans <se51097@lanet.lv>
Subject: Latvian Alternative and Indie
Hi there
look ppl... so what ya think abt alternative hiphop (crossover) ? I mean
bands like Beastie Boys,H-Blockx.....
Should I include them in to Latvian (alternative and ) indie compilation ??
RoberC
//se51097@lanet.lv
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:35:37 +0200
From: micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom)
Subject: Re:Booking Agencies - some thoughts
>>>In my opinion it seems as if large parts of the indie scene and the record
>>companies have gone mad. Some bands, record companies (and booking
>>agencies) think that a band will get big if only it has "the right sound".
>>This means that all bands with this sound get signed to, more or less, big
>>record companies and booking agencies. I mean, bands like Chevy and Melony
>>would never have been signed to any company some 6 or 7 years ago and that
>>is not because they had "the wrong sound" at that time, but because they
>>are no good!
>
>Hey stop man! Yes, the record industry signs too many crap bands nowadays,
>but that doesn't mean Europe, Alien, 220 Volt, Treat, Styx, Easy Action were
>good bands ( as you put it ).
>You say, that only because those bands had a contract 6 - 7 years ago and
>the record companies didn't sign crap bands, they were good bands.
>If find it horribly strange!!!
>
>>Good bands always get signed (except for Agurk Players then),
>>if just not by a "big one" directly.
>
>What dou you mean? Good bands? A highly subjective defenition.
>I think you're wrong!
First You mention some bands that you obviously think are not good and then
you say that "good bands" is a highly subjective definition. Except that
you contradict yourself there, I also think that you've misunderstood me.
Bands that are of a low quality (also a subjective definition, I know) get
signed if the "big ones" think their sound is right. In the 80's it was
"hard rock" and today the time has come for the indie bands. But if you
have the "wrong sound" you probably have to show the record companies more
of good quality, than today, to get signed.
/Micke
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:44:18 +0200
From: micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom)
Subject: Re: Latvian Alternative and Indie
>>look ppl... so what ya think abt alternative hiphop (crossover) ? I mean
>bands like Beastie Boys,H-Blockx.....
>>Should I include them in to Latvian (alternative and ) indie compilation ??
Maybe you shouldn't include Beastie boys and H-Blockx (Ha Ha), but if there
are any good latvian bands playing this type of music I think you should
include them. As the term is "alternative pop and rock music" I think
hip-hop, and even techno, should be included in the term. I mean, after
30-40 years of rock music roaring guitars aren't always that exciting
anymore.
/Micke
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:04:06 -0500
From: elin <elin@algonet.se>
Subject: Words like silence
Dear all...
This is so great, I just sat here by the computer (as usual) and
guess which song was played in Musikjournalen a minute ago?
Fidget's Semi-naked!!
Heard the intro and almost screamed. (wah!)
And the single was on LNS's list in last weeks Expressen Fredag.
Does those things mean the single is out? Tell me.
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Totte Pop wrote:
>On Wednesday Superswirls and Mismates plays in Stockholm at Studion.
>It's a great opportunity to see one of the most interesting band Sweden
>have 1996.
I'd really like to go. If someone actually does go (I'd be jealous),
please tell us about it afterwards.
>Superswirls will release their debut album in November....and
>it's great!
Well, oh well. I'm waiting.
A question: Is 'Dates' a new single? It was played at Söndagsöppet
and it has been played on P3 several times.
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Chief wrote:
>Yvonne - <snip> An official homepage for the band is also in the making.
Well, well - my days as keeper of The Yvonnepage is over I guess, in the
future I'll just be the keeper of one of all.
Even though my page is emberassing, and not at all as good as I want
it to be, I'm kind of proud.
Pay it a visit, and tell me what could be done better.
(www.algonet.se/~elin/yvonne) (Sorry for promoting it here, but almost
noone visits it)
Bye for now.
Elin
-listening to Musikjournalen Pop, (Superswirls right now)
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:13:35 +0200
From: totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)
Subject: DATES...
Hi!
Yes, Dates is the new single from Superswirls, the thing is it's the worst
song on the soon to be released album (the album is great)....go and see
them on wednesday at studion STHLM, doors open at 20.00.......
totte pop
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:03:41 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, burrito <burrito@ludd.luth.se> wrote:
>> Last night when Mazarine Street played here (actually a pretty amazing gig -
>> it was some time ago I saw a band play with so much heart, especially the
>> drummer and the guy on bass) I learned that they (too) have recently
>> switched to the EMA Telstar booking agency, which means that they won't
>> take less than 10.000 SEK for a gig (this gig was the last one booked
>> pre-EMA Telstar) from now on.
>
> This is a tragedy, who the hell is supposed to be able to pay this kind
> of money for a band of Mazarine Street's size? No wonder the swedish
> "indie" scene is choking on its own vomit.
Very true. Doesn't it feel a bit strange when you think of it? Where
will Mazarine Street play after this? Well, at Mejeriet in Lund together
with Souls, The Sinners and Cry on thursday, but then what? Opening for
what kind of bands, and where? Gino? Scandinavium? Globen? S|ndags|ppet
next, right? Cardigans must be the only "indie" band to have played there
without being signed to EMA Telstar..
And micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom) wrote:
> In my opinion it seems as if large parts of the indie scene and the record
> companies have gone mad. Some bands, record companies (and booking
> agencies) think that a band will get big if only it has "the right sound".
> This means that all bands with this sound get signed to, more or less, big
> record companies and booking agencies. I mean, bands like Chevy and Melony
> would never have been signed to any company some 6 or 7 years ago and that
> is not because they had "the wrong sound" at that time, but because they
> are no good! Good bands always get signed (except for Agurk Players then),
> if just not by a "big one" directly.
I'm not so sure about "the right sound" - because who decides what the
"right sound" is - music is very personal, and just because magazines
and papers write up some bands, it doesn't mean that that's the "right
sound" even though some people do believe that. I haven't seen much
about Mazarine Street in magazines and papers lately, so I doubt that's
it. And for the record, I have to say that I like Melony (though I haven't
heard their album), and the Chevy song on the Pop Nation compilation CD
(though I haven't heard their album).
They even played "Barbra Streisand Nose" on Musikjournalen today (I haven't
heard it on the radio for ages!)..
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:15:28 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Pete Korhonen <pkorho@cs.joensuu.fi>
Subject: Mana Mana (more)
Update to Mana Mana gigs this month:
Mana Mana
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25.10. Helsinki, Rest. Kaisaniemi
26.10. Turku, TVO-osis
Welcome
t: Pete
(more info: pkorho@cs.joensuu.fi)
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:14:11 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se>
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
On Sat, 19 Oct 1996 chief@lysator.liu.se wrote:
> This means that smaller venues (like the ones here in Linkoping) won't
> be able to get these bands, and what will be the result of this? Well,
> here's my thoughts: first the good one - we will see more new and upcoming
> bands, because the venues can't afford the "bigger" ones, which I think
> is great. The downside is probably that these bands won't get as many
> gigs anymore (and some of them haven't even been out playing that much
> yet either), which also means that less people will know about them -
> or buy their records, unless the label puts enough money into major ad
> campains, TV performances etc. etc.
yes, if the bands won't be able to tour and play gigs to any greater
extent they will completely be in the hands of pop, expressen and z-tv,
who pretty much run this country when it comes to decide what is hip and
what isn't. people won't be able to check out these up-and-coming bands
themselves and the bands won't be able to reach out to people (and sell
records) if they aren't featured in pop, expressen or z-tv. i mean, does
anyone here seriously believe that the jon spencer blues explosion would
have played for a sold out gino this past friday, if it wouldn't have been
for pop putting them on the cover of the latest issue?
it already seems like this country is just too small when it comes to
create any diversity in the music business and it won't help when new
bands are signed to booking agencies who are primarily in the business to
make money of semi-well known bands like superswirls by charging a lot of
money for one single gig. mazarine street is a pretty good example of a
new band that has created a fan base by mainly playing a lot of shows and
not by getting a lot of attention from the media. they put on a good live
show and people go out and buy their album because of the fact that they
liked what the saw and heard at this show.
isn't this just the way it should be?
.per
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:23:35 +0200
From: micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom)
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
>I haven't seen much>about Mazarine Street in magazines and papers lately,
>so I doubt that's it. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
Well, maybe they're not the band that you see everywhere. But the fact is
that LNS had a big "promotion-drive" for them in Expressen Fredag and, good
or bad - you judge for yourself, I think that LNS is one of the leading
swedish trend-setters when it comes to define what is "the right sound"
(yeah, I know this is a stupid definition, but the fact still is that
different sounds are more popular than others at any specific time. Please
come with suggestions of better definitions).
/Micke
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:40:27 +0100
From: "Jens Agren" <jensa@loranga.df.lth.se>
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
On Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:23:35 +0200, Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
>>I haven't seen much>about Mazarine Street in magazines and papers lately,
>>so I doubt that's it. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
>
>Well, maybe they're not the band that you see everywhere. But the fact is
>that LNS had a big "promotion-drive" for them in Expressen Fredag and, good
>or bad - you judge for yourself, I think that LNS is one of the leading
>swedish trend-setters when it comes to define what is "the right sound"
>(yeah, I know this is a stupid definition, but the fact still is that
>different sounds are more popular than others at any specific time. Please
>come with suggestions of better definitions).
Maybe "the recent sound", "the popular sound"...or "the public sound"...
// Jens
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:53:30 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Motor Tour List _Update_ [22-Oct-96]
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Scandinavian Indie Motor Tour List UPDATE Scandinavian Indie
October 22nd, 1996
by Erik Soderstrom (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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SCANDINAVIAN:
Souls Telegram *NEW*
24/10 Lund - Mejeriet
1/11 Koping - Raj Harder
2/11 Goteborg - Karen
6/11 Stockholm - Gino
8/11 Uppsala - Kalmar Nation
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NON-SCANDINAVIAN:
Life of Agony (US) Roadrunner
special guests; Stuck Mojo
20/11 Copenhagen (DK) - Pumpehuset New Date
21/11 Arhus (DK) - Huset New Date
Lush (UK) MNW ILR
30/10 Lund - Mejeriet Cancelled
31/10 Stockholm - Gino Cancelled
Marilyn Manson (US) MCA/Geffen
special guests; Fluffy (UK) Virgin *NEW*
27/11 Stockholm - Studion
28/11 Copenhagen (DK) - Vega
Mazzy Star (US) Wea
special guests; Sparklehorse
24/11 Stockholm - Gino New Date
Prodigy (UK) MNW ILR
15/12 Copenhagen (DK) - Vega New Date
The Selecter (UK) Border
29/10 Oslo (N) - Rebecka vest New Date
30/10 Stockholm - Studion New Date
31/10 Goteborg - Underground New Date
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The COMPLETE Motor Tour List can be found on the Scandinavian Indie WWW :
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/motor.html
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:52:13 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Latvian Alternative and Indie
On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom) wrote:
>>look ppl... so what ya think abt alternative hiphop (crossover) ? I mean
>>bands like Beastie Boys,H-Blockx.....
>>Should I include them in to Latvian (alternative and ) indie compilation ??
>
> Maybe you shouldn't include Beastie boys and H-Blockx (Ha Ha), but if there
> are any good latvian bands playing this type of music I think you should
> include them. As the term is "alternative pop and rock music" I think
> hip-hop, and even techno, should be included in the term. I mean, after
> 30-40 years of rock music roaring guitars aren't always that exciting
> anymore.
I disagree - where did that term "alternative pop and rock music" come from
by the way?
Even though I like crossover a lot, I think there should be some sort of
distinction between pop and crossover. That is to say, if you're making an
indie pop compilation (ie. Latvian Pop compilation) - include indie pop bands.
If you're making an indie crossover compilation (ie. Latvian Crossover comp.)-
include indie crossover bands. Of course, you can also make a mixed tape
(ie. a Lativan Music compilation) if you want to. It is totally up to you,
of course.
... my 50 |re ...
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:52:45 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Words like silence
On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, elin <elin@algonet.se> wrote:
> This is so great, I just sat here by the computer (as usual) and
> guess which song was played in Musikjournalen a minute ago?
> Fidget's Semi-naked!!
Isn't it great! It's the second week in a row they play Semi-Naked
on Musikjournalen even! They're going to be big... Oh yeah, check
out the new Sound Affects (subscribers should get it on wednesday
and the stores a week after that) for (self promoting bastard..)
my article on Fidget! When the new issue is released, I'll be able
to post my early version (original, full one - it's actually almost
completely different, and a lot longer too) interview/article to
the list as well, so stay tuned for that one as well.
> Heard the intro and almost screamed. (wah!)
> And the single was on LNS's list in last weeks Expressen Fredag.
> Does those things mean the single is out? Tell me.
Yes and no. Mega Records released a promo 7" single 10 days ago (1000 copies)
with "Semi-Naked" and "My Prawns" on it, with the following note: "One of
Sweden's most talked about demos is pressed onto a vinyl single. This is
_not_ a commercial release, only a small taste for those of you who have
only read/heard about this six-piece band from Gothenburg and wonder what
they sound like. The record is therefor only a demo-cassette. A "real"
single will be released at the end of November, and Fidget's debut album
will be in the stores in the beginning of 1997. Best regards Mega Records
(Stockholm) 961011"
> Totte Pop wrote:
> >On Wednesday Superswirls and Mismates plays in Stockholm at Studion.
> >It's a great opportunity to see one of the most interesting band Sweden
> >have 1996.
>
> I'd really like to go. If someone actually does go (I'd be jealous),
> please tell us about it afterwards.
Hear hear! Mismates must be included in the "list of my highest hopes"
right now, and Superswirls are great. I can't go there either of course,
so please, if someone does go... well, you know what to do! :-)
//Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 08:55:59 +0100
From: etxsahm@cyber.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Booking Agencies - some thoughts
"Jens Agren" <jensa@loranga.df.lth.se> wrote:
> >swedish trend-setters when it comes to define what is "the right sound"
> >(yeah, I know this is a stupid definition, but the fact still is that
> >different sounds are more popular than others at any specific time. Please
> >come with suggestions of better definitions).
>
> Maybe "the recent sound", "the popular sound"...or "the public sound"...
"The flavour of today".
-- Marten
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 9:28:31 +0200
From: pp@re.dk
Subject: Gigs in Sthlm
Howdy Boys and Girls!
I'm proud to announce that I'm coming to Stockholm tomorrow evening.
I was wondering if any of the Stockholm locals know of any gigs or
happenings going on this Thurs. night, Fri, Sat., or Sun..
Tak,
Pete
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:29:15 +0100
From: etxsahm@cyber.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Gigs in Sthlm
pp@re.dk wrote:
> I was wondering if any of the Stockholm locals know of any gigs or
> happenings going on this Thurs. night, Fri, Sat., or Sun..
Battery at Kafe 44 on Thursday
Hellacopters at Studion on Saturday. You should definitely see these guys.
The best *rock* band in Sweden today. They combine the best from bands like
Stooges, Heartbreakers, Dictators, and Motorhead.
Suede/Boo Radleys at Solnahallen on Monday
That's about it, I think.
-- Marten
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:23:18 +0200
From: micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom)
Subject: Re: Alternative and Indie
>> As the term is "alternative pop and rock music" I think
>> hip-hop, and even techno, should be included in the term. I mean, after
>> 30-40 years of rock music roaring guitars aren't always that exciting
>> anymore.
>
>I disagree - where did that term "alternative pop and rock music" come from
>by the way?
>
>Even though I like crossover a lot, I think there should be some sort of
>distinction between pop and crossover. That is to say, if you're making an
>indie pop compilation (ie. Latvian Pop compilation) - include indie pop bands.
>If you're making an indie crossover compilation (ie. Latvian Crossover comp.)-
>include indie crossover bands. Of course, you can also make a mixed tape
>(ie. a Lativan Music compilation) if you want to. It is totally up to you,
>of course.
I just want to ask a question, not being provocative - just curious. I
agree that crossover maybe shouldn't be included in the term "indie pop".
But I wonder what you - on this mailing list - means with "indie-pop". As
far as I know the term comes from the fact that these bands usually were
signed by independent record companies. In my opinion there is nothing in
that definition that excludes, for example, hip-hop and techno bands. When
the term "indie-pop" is used, though, it almost always means guitar-pop
bands. What do you think, should hip-hop and techno be excluded from the
term "indie-pop". Many seems to think so. I don't!
/Micke
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Date: 23 Oct 1996 20:02:28 +0200
From: Robert Cumming <robert@astro.su.se>
Subject: Re: Alternative and Indie
ObScanIndie: Were _Jumper_ (now ridiculously high up the Swedish
charts) ever indie?
micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom) wrote:
> But I wonder what you - on this mailing list - means with "indie-pop". As
> far as I know the term comes from the fact that these bands usually were
> signed by independent record companies. In my opinion there is nothing in
> that definition that excludes, for example, hip-hop and techno bands. When
Umm, we've survived this long without defining what's scan-indie and
what's not. Leave that discussion to, oh I don't know, almost anyone
else...
Robert, knows what he likes and doesn't really care what it's called
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:17:44 +0200 (EET)
From: Roberts Galvans <se51097@lanet.lv>
Subject: Re: Latvian Alternative and Indie
> Even though I like crossover a lot, I think there should be some sort of
> distinction between pop and crossover. That is to say, if you're making an
> indie pop compilation (ie. Latvian Pop compilation) - include indie pop bands.
> If you're making an indie crossover compilation (ie. Latvian Crossover comp.)-
> include indie crossover bands. Of course, you can also make a mixed tape
> (ie. a Lativan Music compilation) if you want to. It is totally up to you,
> of course.
OK. let's say I'll make alternative and indie music compilation...
by the way... I brought a swedish tape to Radio 99 1/2 FM (located in
Riga)... actually I brought it to Peteris Puritis (peterisp@parks.lv)...
he's dj on this radio... I donno what he think abt it... I'll ask him it
later... but hewas interested to help me in Latvian alternative and indie
music compilation... he even said that it could be able on CD !!! ..but
only, if other compilations'd be on CD (or another decent way.., DAT/mini
disc or so) that's for better using on radio
RoberC
//se51097@lanet.lv
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