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Scandinavian Indie Digest Vol 02 Issue 20
Scandinavian Indie Digest Sat Dec 16, 1995 Volume 2 : Issue 20
There are 32 messages totalling 1221 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. (long-winded, opinionated rant on..)Journalists
2. Salt (3)
3. Foo F
4. Upcoming Releases
5. TV (Sweden) Next Week
6. Foo Fighters / Loosegoats
7. P3 Live Next Week (2)
8. Salt + more (2)
9. Journalists (2)
10. Salt and weird experience (2)
11. The Verve (Non-scan)
12. Forward: mail from Japan
13. Super***b
14. Stefan Sundstr|m Live
15. Motor Tour List Changes [12-Dec-95]
16. Strange things happen at Gino
17. NON-SCAN: Verve
18. SI's WUIMotR&T List [15-Dec-95]
19. FWD: Lap Bands? (2)
20. FWD: Musi-Cal Gig Guide
21. SI's UWUMR List [15-Dec-95]
22. Addresses To Record Companies
23. Tape chains... let's get them going
24. Super***********b
25. Loosegoats Interview [07-Dec-95]
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 12:36:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Forsberg <forsberg@charm.net>
Subject: Re: (long-winded, opinionated rant on..)Journalists
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Per L}ngstr|m wrote:
> but when they (the evil journalists) along with
> the major record companies are trying to actually friggin' *teach* us as
> readers what music and bands who are cool to like it is really getting to
> be fucked up! i understand that it is mighty hard for a person writing
> about music *not* to write about it in a non-objective point of view, but
> what we are seeing here in sweden, it's just sick! people like anders
> nunstedt just believes that his opinions on music is, like, the word of
> god.
Well it's bad in the States too! I subscribe to Spin (and I will not be
resubscribing, let me tell you!)...some of the hipper-than-thou writers
in *that* rag just really get under my skin! The article on indie vs.
alternative in the recent issue by a Mr. Eric Weisbard is ridiculous.
He does exactly what you describe: set himself up as the All-Knowing
Arbiter of Taste, looking down upon any mere mortals who have the
temerity to - gasp!! - LIKE something that is played on the radio! I
pretty damn sick of it, myself.
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:49:46 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Salt
>On Tue, 05 Dec 1995, Christer Nilsson <cnilsson@binky.ICS.UCI.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Salt is on heavy rotation on the major "rock" radio stations in the
>> LA-area. They also keep mentioning that they are from Sweden.
>
>That's great! I've been trying to get some news out of their record
>label for a while about touring outside Sweden, but I haven't received
>an answer yet. I'll talk to them in person on monday though, so maybe
>I can get some answers then.
There was a feauture in Metro on them today. (Stockholm only newspaper, for
all you exiles).
Jan Sundstrom
"Hon saeger rock me baby, rock me in the moonlight"
( Anders F Roennblom )
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:55:42 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Foo F
Yeah, I'm a fuckhead, forgetting to tape yesterdays broadcast of Foo
Fighters. Anyone did a copy??? Please?!
Trade??? Robert, Marten, Erik?
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 03:26:51 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Upcoming Releases
Some upcoming releases that might be of interest to us scandies:
Note that all dates are preliminary!
Date Artist Title Format Label
------- ----------------- --------------- ------ -----------------------
Dec/Jan Popsicle tba CD Telegram Records
29 Jan Popundret tba CD A West Side Fabrication
29 Jan The Drowners tba CD A West Side Fabrication
5 Feb Svart Sn| Smock 'n Roll CD Beat Butchers
5 Feb Coca Carola tba CD Beat Butchers
5 Feb Radioaktiva R{ker Res Dig Upp CD Beat Butchers
8 Feb Puffin tba CD5 A West Side Fabrication
25 Feb Puffin tba CD A West Side Fabrication
Feb/Mar Tuk Tuk Rally tba CD Beat Butchers
Mar A Shrine tba CD A West Side Fabrication
First quarter 1996
------------------
? ??? Kent tba CD BMG
Anyone knows something that should be added to this list? Souls for
example?
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 03:27:10 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FWD: Re: Salt
Forwarded mail:
;Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:49:46 +0100
;From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
;Subject: Re: Salt
>On Tue, 05 Dec 1995, Christer Nilsson <cnilsson@binky.ICS.UCI.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Salt is on heavy rotation on the major "rock" radio stations in the
>> LA-area. They also keep mentioning that they are from Sweden.
>
>That's great! I've been trying to get some news out of their record
>label for a while about touring outside Sweden, but I haven't received
>an answer yet. I'll talk to them in person on monday though, so maybe
>I can get some answers then.
There was a feauture in Metro on them today. (Stockholm only newspaper, for
all you exiles).
Jan Sundstrom
"Hon saeger rock me baby, rock me in the moonlight"
( Anders F Roennblom )
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 03:28:48 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: TV (Sweden) Next Week
Upcoming miscellaneous music on TV the coming week (in Sweden):
Tue 12/12 - Pop & Indie (ZTV) 19.15
Saturday Night Live (ZTV) 22.00 : The Pretenders
David Letterman (ZTV) 22.50 : Brooks & Dunn
N|jesrevyn - Luciaspecial (TV2) 23.10 : Stakka Bo, Army Of Lovers,
Brainpool, Mayomi etc.
Wed 13/12 - David Letterman (ZTV) 22.50 : Jon Secada
Thu 14/12 - Saturday Night Live (ZTV) 22.00 : Janet Jackson
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 03:27:50 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Foo Fighters / Loosegoats
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
> Yeah, I'm a fuckhead, forgetting to tape yesterdays broadcast of Foo
> Fighters. Anyone did a copy??? Please?!
>
> Trade??? Robert, Marten, Erik?
Sorry about that, but I missed it too because of the Loosegoats gig
here last night. :-/ But the gig was great anyway. :-)
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 03:28:03 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: P3 Live Next Week
Next week's P3 Live (on the swedish national radio, channel 3 that is):
Mon 11/12 Yngwie Malmsteen (Sundsvall 17/11-95) (KROC)
Tue 12/12 Tullamore Dew (K}ren, Lule} 12/5-95) (Etno)
Wed 13/12 Bad Manners (Hultsfred -95) (Dans)
Thu 14/12 Wildhearts (Hultsfred -95) (Rock)
Fri 15/12 Pandora (Sundsvall 31/8-95) (Svea Cafe)
Sat 16/12 Mysbandet, Bad Brothers, Miss Pressure (Garage & Buskage)
Sun 17/12 Snowboy & The Latin Section (Soul)
Always at 21.03, except fridays when it starts at 21.10 (sort of...)
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:17:28 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: FWD: Re: Salt
* There was a feauture in Metro on them today. (Stockholm only newspaper, for
* all you exiles).
Well, what does it say?????? Haven't seen too many copies of Metro
floating around here lately... :)
Kimmo
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:23:26 +0100
From: Marten.Sahlen@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Salt + more
> * There was a feauture in Metro on them today. (Stockholm only newspaper, for
> * all you exiles).
>
> Well, what does it say?????? Haven't seen too many copies of Metro
> floating around here lately... :)
I think Jan is pulling our legs. I just borrowed Metro from a colleague and
glanced through it. There were articles about Naughty By Nature and Monika
Zetterlund, but nothing on Salt. Or maybe I didn't check carefully enough.
Anyway, last night Salt and Fireside made a prestigious gig before a packed
Gino. Lots of pop celebrities and label executives in the audience, and some
mere mortals like Jan and I. Fireside were great, it was the first time I saw
them live, and I'm not surprised if they'll hit it big. Salt I've seen a few
times by now, and were tight as always. This time I got the impression that
the bass player stole the show; he jumped around pretty wildly towards the
end, while Nina was unusually calm. I've got to mention the first band too,
Monster. This is the new ska-core band with ex-Teddybears' drummer Glenn.
I only caught the last song, though it was excellent. Fast punk/hardcore with
both trombone and saxophone laying out some odd ska breaks.
Coming up in the royal capital this week: Yvonne at Gino on Wednesday.
Thursday sees a clash... Mouth at Kafe 44, and Poverty Stinks at Studion.
I'll probably go for Yvonne and Mouth. Any takers...?
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:02:00 +0100 (MET)
From: Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se>
Subject: Re: Journalists
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Christian Bartholdsson wrote:
> >this as an example, i am refering to the music magazine pop's list on
> >the hundred best records ever. this list was put together by the people
> >who are making pop (the magazine). and to me, it's one of the most
> >offensive journalistic pieces on music i've ever read! who are these
> >people to say what records are the best ever?!? sorry, i don't get it.
> >sure, they all know a lot about the history of music etc etc but why in
> >the world do people believe this list is "the list of the best records
> >ever"? it's just twenty different persons putting together a list of
> >what records they like the most.
>
> That last sentence shows that you know what it's all about. So what's
> all the fuss? Why do you think everyone is out to get you?
ok. so i happen to "know what it's all about". yeah. whatever. but maybe
if andres&co shouldn't take themselves so damn seriously i too would
enjoy reading a "top 100 of all time"-list. as it is now, i simply don't.
they are still writing about music in a way of trying to educating us all
(as if we, ourselves, weren't able to distinguish what music we like and
what we do not) and that is what pisses me off to no end when it comes to
swedish rock-journalism. following?
.per
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:16:41 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Salt and weird experience
Fuck, it just went to one of the best gigs for a _loooong_ time. That is
Fireside and Salt at Gino Stockholm.
OK, the bands were really good. But what blew my pants of:
I stood just by the stage when Salt played. Next to me were two girls,
maybe 16-17 years old. I was taking photos of Salt, and suddenly one of the
girls was starting to rub her leg against mine. I looked at her and she
looked back. Very young, short black hair, slim. I continued to take a few
photos but she wanted my concentration.
So she climbed up in front of me onto the bass-speaker just by the stage,
and lied down on it. Now the other girl (long blond hair) started to rub
the blackhaireds belly with her hands, and soon the hands wandered under
the t-shirt over her boobs.
The girls started to embrace and kiss each other, and looked at me, like
"come on!"
So i took a photo of them, just for fun. Now, they freaked out completely.
The girls started to chew each others lips, lick each other in the face,
teasing and smiling. The blackhaired "tied" her legs around the other one
and began to move to the rhythm of the music.
I took some more photos of them, the concert was going on all the time
during this. They continued to kiss and cuddle, type "sex with their
clothes on" for maybe 20 minutes until the gig was over.
What can i say? Hope noone gets offended by this, (sorry, women on the
list!), but this was a weird and wonderful experience. I haven't seen the
pic yet, but i really hope they turned out OK.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:18:06 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: P3 Live Next Week
>Next week's P3 Live (on the swedish national radio, channel 3 that is):
Hey Erik or someone, can you check out when Stefan Sundstrom comes. I saw
P3 taping his gig last friday.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:28:49 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Salt + more
>> * There was a feauture in Metro on them today. (Stockholm only newspaper, for
>> * all you exiles).
>>
>> Well, what does it say?????? Haven't seen too many copies of Metro
>> floating around here lately... :)
>
>I think Jan is pulling our legs. I just borrowed Metro from a colleague and
>glanced through it. There were articles about Naughty By Nature and Monika
>Zetterlund, but nothing on Salt. Or maybe I didn't check carefully enough.
No, no, no. You're looking at fridays copy. I'm referring to thursday. no
legs pulled. ;)
>Fireside were great, it was the first time I saw
>them live, and I'm not surprised if they'll hit it big.
Yeah, dark, evil music, sort of. Lot of grim bass.
>Monster. This is the new ska-core band with ex-Teddybears' drummer Glenn.
And Marten was there with Pat Scab of Teddybears, whom i hardly recognized
(shame!).
>Coming up in the royal capital this week: Yvonne at Gino on Wednesday.
>Thursday sees a clash... Mouth at Kafe 44, and Poverty Stinks at Studion.
>I'll probably go for Yvonne and Mouth. Any takers...?
Yeah, Yvonne definitely, and maybe Mouth if i'm not too worn out.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:58:19 +0100
From: Marten.Sahlen@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Salt and weird experience
d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
> I took some more photos of them, the concert was going on all the time
> during this. They continued to kiss and cuddle, type "sex with their
> clothes on" for maybe 20 minutes until the gig was over.
>
> What can i say? Hope noone gets offended by this, (sorry, women on the
> list!), but this was a weird and wonderful experience. I haven't seen the
> pic yet, but i really hope they turned out OK.
You didn't tell the end of the story. When Salt's concert was over I
stepped up to Jan to have a chat with him. The two chicks were still
there, but when I approached they went away and left the place. So I'm
sorry that I broke the spell, and sorry if I spoilt your potential plans
for some extra-curricullar activites after the show :)
Shit, my ears still goes ring-a-dinga-a-fucking-ding, it was LOUD last night.
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:38:48 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: The Verve (Non-scan)
Sorry for loitering the Scan-indie-list with irrelevant stuff, but i just
have to bring you the happy news:
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 95 10:35:28 GMT +1
>From: septula <septula@oar.vmg.co.uk>
>Subject: None
>To: the_verve@vmg.co.uk
>Sender: owner-the_verve@vmg.co.uk
>***************THE VERVE UPDATE**************
>
>Rumours have been flying around for some time now as to what The Verve are up
>to. But now it is time to put the record straight. This is the official line.
>Straight from the horse's mouth.
>
>The name The Verve has been dropped but the band continues with the
>exception of
>guitarist Nick McCabe.
>
>Singer Richard Ashcroft will continue to work with bass guitarist Simon Jones
>and drummer Peter Salisbury. The name of the new band has not yet been decided
>but the boys are currently in the studio with producer John Leckie working
>on a new album to be released some time next year.
>
>From the ashes a phoenix shall arise.
>
>********************************************
>The Raft will be powered down on friday 8th 9.00pm GMT
>Powered up again on Sunday 10th 12 noon GMT
>********************************************
>Keep on The Raft....Adam.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:15:08 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Forward: mail from Japan
I just wanted to forward this mail I received a few days ago from
Japan. I wonder if this calls for a mirror site in Japan?
----------------------------------forwarded--------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 16:36:46 JST
From: tsugiura@smtplink.skk.moc.go.jp
To: scan-indie-request@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Hi!
Hi!
I send this from Chiba,Japan.
Your page is difficult to search in Japan.
In Japan,we cannot get any Informations about Swedish music Scene.
You'd Better send many many informations about Swedish music.
Bye
-----------------------------------forwarded-------------------------------
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:25:35 +0200 (EET)
From: Sami Rouhento <trsaro@uta.fi>
Subject: Super***b
Well, that was the title of their demo tape a long time back now (it
seems) but that's not the reason I'm writing;
The reason I'm writing is that this great pop band from around here,
Super, have just yesterday released their debut CD5 "Spark" on
Tangerine. Fantastic stuff, three songs in all, first one "Spark" is a
surefire radio hit with some ultra catchy melodies and totally groovy
basslines. Next one up, "People's Democratic Movement", almost an
instrumental that will surely have everyone jumping up and down as
those pa-pap-pa-da-da's come in. Some great bleeping moog thrown in
for good measure! Lastly we have a quiet and sooo pretty song called
"trouble in sex", really it's very beautiful and sweet, that's all I
can say. The band excels throughout, chanteuse Minna is in her usual
breathy mode which makes me dizzy in the head, all in all if you're
into bouncing jazz-tinged pop music I say you need a little Super in
you life.
Sami
ps. there was a release party here in Tampere yesterday and the band
played a brilliant show. Also Saku (from psych-rockers COO) performed
some Bruce Springsteen songs alone with a guitar and a harmonica and
yes, I admit it sounds bizarre but he was totally impressing and went
down a storm.
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:14:21 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Stefan Sundstr|m Live
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
>>Next week's P3 Live (on the swedish national radio, channel 3 that is):
>
> Hey Erik or someone, can you check out when Stefan Sundstrom comes. I saw
> P3 taping his gig last friday.
Sorry about the late reply (to everyone on the list) but I'm isolated at
home with the damn flu at the moment. Anyway, Stefan Sundstr|m. Yes,
it will be broadcasted next week on tuesday 19/12 (P3 Live, 21.03).
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:13:36 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Motor Tour List Changes [12-Dec-95]
Changes to the Motor Tour List 12-Dec-95
since the last list
Foetus (US) Big Cat/MNW ILR
w/special guest : Morning Glory (SWE) Warner
25/2 Copenhagen (DK) - Loppen
G.Love & Special Sauce (US) Sony
28/1 Copenhagen (DK) - Loppen (Venuefestival '96)
Gordon (SWE) Roligan Rec.
21/12 Gothenburg - Q-Club
Liberator (SWE) Burning Heart
21/12 Gothenburg - Q-Club
22/12 Stockholm - Studion
Marion (UK) Polygram
1/3 Stockholm - Studion
2/3 Copenhagen (DK) - Loppen
Urge Overkill (US) MCA
12/2 Copenhagen (DK) - Pumpehuset
13/2 Stockholm - Gino
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:14:04 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Strange things happen at Gino
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
> What can i say? Hope noone gets offended by this, (sorry, women on the
> list!), but this was a weird and wonderful experience. I haven't seen the
> pic yet, but i really hope they turned out OK.
On the topic of "strange" things happening at Gino. When the Charlatans
played there february last year, a girl I talked a bit to in the queue
outside really held on to me during the concert (her friend disappeared
somewhere), and when it was over, she asked if I'd wait for her while she'd
go to the bathroom. So I waited for a couple of minutes, and then this other
girl came up from behind and tapped me on my shoulder, saying "they're really
great!" (referring to my Slowdive t-shirt), so I started to talk to her,
(and found out she was from Kalmar), and two weeks later she was my
girlfriend.
Another time, when the Walkabouts played there, I guess it was last year
as well, my friend that I went there with had to go home early, but I
stayed and started to chat with some people at the bar upstairs. They
turned out to be some sort of acrobats, and okay, we were all pretty
drunk at the time, but when they held me up-side-down in my legs from
the bar, just to show a trick, I decided it was time to get out of there.
And when Cranes played there exactly a year ago, me and my girlfriend
didn't want to go home after the concert, so we stayed at the bar
downstairs, and went up getting invited to their (Cranes) party,
got our names on the guest list for a gig in Amsterdam, Holland, they
had a week later (with Catherine Wheel if I remember it correctly)
etc etc.
Anyway, stop that Erik! :)
All I wanted to say really was that Gino is a great place. The first
and last place I got to see Slowdive live too, by the way.
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:14:40 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: NON-SCAN: Verve
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
Re: Subject: The Verve (Non-scan)
> Sorry for loitering the Scan-indie-list with irrelevant stuff, but i just
> have to bring you the happy news:
That's okay by me. :) Great news, although I can't understand why I
haven't received that note myself, as I'm on the Verve mailing list. :-/
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:15:40 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: SI's WUIMotR&T List [15-Dec-95]
Scandinavian Indie's
Weekly Updated Interesting Music on the Radio & Television List
December 15th -> December 24th
---------------------------------
Swedish National Radio Channel P3
---------------------------------
Day Date Artist Recorded
--- ----- ----------------------------------- -----------------------------
Mon 18/12 Patrik Tanner Sundsvall, 08-Dec-95
Tue 19/12 Stefan Sundstr|m Stockholm, Studion, 08-Dec-95
Wed 20/12 Solid Base & Sonic Dream Collective Uppsala, Povels, 11-Jun-95
Thu 21/12 Backyard Babies Ljungby, 23-Nov-95
Fri 22/12 tba
Sat 23/12 Nothing
Sun 24/12 Ardis Hultsfred, 26-Aug-95
Always at 21.03, except fridays: 21.10
-------------------
Various TV Channels
-------------------
Day Date Artist/What TV Program Channel Time
--- ----- ----------------------- ------------------- ------------- -----
Fri 15/12 Sophie Zelmani Nike SVT Kanal 1 20.00
Sat 16/12 Pop & Indie Pop & Indie ZTV 14.00 R
Mouth, Fistfunk MC SVT TV2 22.00
Red Hot Chili Peppers Artistspecial ZTV 00.55
Sun 17/12 Red Hot Chili Peppers Artistspecial ZTV 17.05 R
The Cranberries Unplugged MTV Europe 19.30
Alternative Nation Alternative Nation MTV Europe 22.30
Sophie Zelmani Nike SVT Kanal 1 22.55 R
Mon 18/12 Foo Fighters In Concert MTV Europe 21.00
Lollipop Festival (I) Artistspecial ZTV 21.30
Tue 19/12 Pop & Indie Pop & Indie ZTV 19.15
Cypress Hill Saturday Night Live ZTV 22.00
Wed 20/12 Hole Unplugged MTV Europe 21.30
Lollipop Festival (II) Artistspecial ZTV 00.55
Thu 21/12 Snoop Doggy Dogg Saturday Night Live ZTV 22.00
Red Hot Chili Peppers Rockumentary MTV Europe 22.00
+ The whole weekend, ZTV show ALL videos ever made by Smashing Pumpkins.
R = Rerun
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:17:01 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FWD: Lap Bands?
I got this message in my mailbox earlier today. I guess he's talking
about finnish bands, as I don't recognise any of them. Could someone
of you on the list with knowledge of these bands help this guy out?
Let me know (or even better, let _him_ know). Thanks! //Erik
--------------------------forwarded message------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:32:01 -0800
From: Bob von Buelow <bobv@beowulf.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: lap music
hi,
I am trying to find a source for some music such as Dolla-tuti
or Giitu, perhaps by Angeli Girls. This music is characterized by
a high voice over a VERY hard driving beat. Can you point me in
the right direction for finding this in the USA?
I heard some of this (or something similiar I'm told) on a TV show
that was about reindeer racing.
Thanks,
Bob
--
Bob von Buelow TOPEX/POSEIDON Mission Planning and Sequencing
bobv@beowulf.jpl.nasa.gov - standard disclaimers apply -
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:17:20 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FWD: Musi-Cal Gig Guide
Another forwarded message. This time about the Musi-Cal gig guide/lists.
I think it's a good thing to know about if you're a band / promotor /
whatever, and want to add your tour dates to a world wide database of
tour lists. If you're interested read on, if not, well. :) //Erik
-----------------------------forwarded message-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:29:31 -0500
From: Skip Montanaro <skip@automatrix.com>
To: distribution:@automatrix.com
Subject: Submitting raw tour itineraries to Musi-Cal...
In my never-ending attempt to find easier ways for people to submit concert,
tour and festival listings to Musi-Cal (and to confuse you with the
bewildering array of submission options...) I've added yet another way to
submit concert itineraries to Musi-Cal. I think this may be the easiest
yet.
I'm sending this note to a much broader audience than usual (only to list
owners where possible, so they can use their discretion about forwarding it
to their lists), since I believe it opens up the possibility for just about
anybody who has used email or Usenet to distribute concert or festival
information previously to submit such information to Musi-Cal. For those of
you have have never seen Musi-Cal, there is some contact information at the
end of the message. This is a one-time mailing from me about this subject.
If you I can followup with an introductory message about Musi-Cal. This
note is long enough as it is, however.
You can now post tour itineraries to Musi-Cal by sending them as email to
itinerary@calendar.com. This mechanism should be useful for people who
don't have the time to manage the other Musi-Cal submission mechanisms
themselves and who don't have access to a Web or FTP server to make raw
itineraries available for my fetchtour software.
The itinerary alias is intended to be a place for people to submit
itineraries on a repetitive basis, not just once, because it involves some
up-front work on my part the first time I receive an itinerary for an
artist.
The requirements for the message formats are pretty flexible, but there are
a few:
* Events should be listed one-per-line
* Events should be in a "well-delimited" format (see below) amenable
to input as raw data to the Musi-Cal Slicer-Dicer.
* The subject and email address in the From: field must always be
the same for different versions of the same artist's itinerary,
typically the name of the performer(s) and the sender's address,
respectively.
* The format of the data must stay the same across multiple
submissions.
Also, if I've never heard of the performer you are submitting for (that is a
*very* good possibility - I don't claim to be any sort of omniscient musical
aficionado) you should give me a few keywords in the first message you send
me that describe the type of music the artist plays, or submit static
information about that artist using the Web form at
http://www.calendar.com/concerts/addstatic.shtml
The definition of "well-delimited" is purposely a bit vague. In general, I
need to be able to build a pattern that identifies the various fields (date,
city, state, venue and so forth) in the entry. Something like
102995BerkeleyCAFreight&Salvage
isn't properly delimited, although most people can probably read it.
I'm getting pretty good at automatically massaging itineraries into a form
suitable for the Musi-Cal Slicer-Dicer. One rule you must adhere to closely
though is that fields that can contain white space must not be separated
from the next field in the line by white space. For instance, the following
is good:
San Francisco, CA
but the following is bad:
San Francisco CA
The pattern matcher will gobble up the " CA" as part of the city name
because city names can contain white space. Here is an example
well-formatted item for a Joan Osborne date that occurred back in October:
10/12 Norfolk, VA (8pm) Naro Theater
If you are used to posting itineraries in tabular format (nicely lined up in
columns) with only white space between the fields I may be able to massage
it into a form I can use, but I may ask you for some changes in the input.
How does itinerary@calendar.com work? It's magic... :-) Well, not really.
The first time you send an itinerary to the itinerary alias its
subject/email combination won't be recognized and the message will be
forwarded to me. I will then build the necessary framework for input to the
fetchtour software. That and subsequent mailings with the same subject from
the same person will get processed automagically by fetchtour. I will
contact you if I have trouble with your input.
Note: If you choose to use this method of submitting events to Musi-Cal you
will be set up as the reviewer of the output. You will get two to four mail
messages in reply to a single itinerary. The first will identify all the
items that were automatically submitted to the calendar. Normally, you can
just scan that and delete it. There may be situations where it is obvious
that a particular gig has been missed by the pattern matcher, however. If
that happens and you can't figure out why, just let me know. The second
message will be a confirmation of the automatic additions. Again, scan and
delete for the most part. The third message, if necessary, will identify
Slicer-Dicer output that wasn't automatically submitted because warnings or
errors were generated. You should fix the generated add commands (and if
necessary, your raw itinerary data) and submit them yourself or contact me
if you have problems. After you submit the corrections you will receive a
confirmation of those additions.
One common problem people outside the US will have is that I have very
little latitude/longitude data to verify non-US cities. I use a lat/long
check for city/state or city/country combinations as a way to flag possible
misspellings. If I begin to get a lot of input from outside the US I will
just suppress the lat/long check for non-US cities as a short-term
workaround. Ideally, I'd like a good online source of global lat/long data.
If you have any ideas, let me know. Even small amounts of data would be
useful to augment the 400-500 non-US cities I have. (In contrast, I have
138,000 US place name lat/longs thanks to a cheap database available from
the USGS...)
If all the various confirmation replies get to be a problem for people, I
will modify the Slicer-Dicer so the additions it makes on your behalf won't
generate a response. That will reduce the number of reply messages by one,
but the others (direct output of the Slicer-Dicer and confirmation of add
commands you submit) will still be necessary so you can check for mistakes.
For those unfamiliar with Musi-Cal, here's a quick overview of the various
ways you can submit items to Musi-Cal:
* Use the Web form at <URL:http://www.calendar.com/concerts/
addstatic.shtml>
* Send multi-line add commands to concerts@calendar.com
* Use the crude Slicer-Dicer interface on the Web at
<URL:http://www.calendar.com/concerts/slicer.html>
* Send Slicer-Dicer commands to concerts@calendar.com
* Make raw itineraries available on the Web or via anonymous FTP
* Send raw itineraries to itinerary@calendar.com
To learn more about Musi-Cal, visit us on the Web or send email to
concerts@calendar.com with a message body of
help
Thanks for your time. As always, if you have any questions, please let me
know. My mailbox is always open.
--
Skip Montanaro skip@calendar.com (518)372-5583
Musi-Cal: http://www.calendar.com/concerts/ or mailto:concerts@calendar.com
Internet Conference Calendar: http://www.calendar.com/conferences/
>>> ZLDF: http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:16:31 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: SI's UWUMR List [15-Dec-95]
Scandinavian Indie's
Updated Weekly Upcoming Music Releases List
15-Dec-95
Date Artist Title Format Label
------- ----------------- ------------------------ ------ -----------------------
Now Monster Honor Your Friends CD AMI
Now Moose Live a Little Love a Lot CD Play It Again Sam
Now PJ Harvey To Bring You My Love & B CD Island / Polygram
Now Popsicle Not Forever CD5 Telegram Records
Now Spacemen 3 Live In Europe CD HOK Space
Now Swans Love of Life CD HOK Young
27 Dec Popsicle Popsicle CD Telegram Records
29 Jan Popundret tba CD West Side Fabr.
29 Jan The Drowners tba CD A West Side Fabr.
5 Feb Svart Sn| Smock 'n Roll CD Beat Butchers
5 Feb Coca Carola tba CD Beat Butchers
5 Feb Radioaktiva R{ker Res Dig Upp CD Beat Butchers
8 Feb Puffin tba CD5 A West Side Fabr.
25 Feb Puffin tba CD A West Side Fabr.
Feb/Mar Tuk Tuk Rally tba CD Beat Butchers
Mar A Shrine tba CD A West Side Fabr.
First quarter 1996
------------------
? ??? Kent tba CD BMG
Note that all dates are preliminary!
Anyone knows something that should be added to this list? Souls for
example?
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 06:43:59 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Journalists
Funny to see that in last friday's "Expressen Friday", there was a note
saying that someone ("Lonely Rita") had sent in a message telling them
the facts about that Tim Burgess/Djurgarden sweater business I wrote
about on this list two weeks ago while complaining about A. Nunstedt.
And while we're on the subject, you all checked out Expressen Fredag's
WWW page (the preview) last week and answered the questions? It'll
be fun to see what it looks like today (premiere).
(Non-swedes: "Expressen Fredag" is the entertainment section in one
of Sweden's evening papers, (ie. Expressen) where people like
A. Nunstedt, Linda Norrman Skugge etc write.)
In case you didn't know, their URL is: http://www.expressen.se/
by the way.
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 06:44:20 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Addresses To Record Companies
And going back to the topic of Record Label addresses, which we discussed
about a month ago, here's that Stockholm Records address someone was
looking for:
Stockholm Records
Box 20504
161 02 Bromma
SWEDEN
//Erik
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:04:34 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: FWD: Lap Bands? (fwd)
* I got this message in my mailbox earlier today. I guess he's talking
* about finnish bands, as I don't recognise any of them. Could someone
* of you on the list with knowledge of these bands help this guy out?
* Let me know (or even better, let _him_ know). Thanks! //Erik
------------
* I am trying to find a source for some music such as Dolla-tuti
* or Giitu, perhaps by Angeli Girls. This music is characterized by
* a high voice over a VERY hard driving beat. Can you point me in
* the right direction for finding this in the USA?
Well, what he is talking about is a Finnish (or actually Lappish, to
emphasize their northern origin (and to some extent mine too)) band
called Angelin Tyt|t, or Annel Nieiddat as they are called in their
native Sami tongue ('Girls from Angeli' is what it means
basically). They have three albums out: "Dolla", "Giitu"
and...er... the name of the latest escapes me at the moment.
Their music is based on the traditional Lappish vocal style 'joikhing'
(as the most common English term seems to be), spiced with a bit more
modern elements, like tribal drumming and even some techno/jungle beat
on their newest release.
I'll forward this info to the person requesting it as soon as I get
home where I have the label address etc. but I thought I'd let you
know also.
Kimmo
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:42:32 +0100
From: Marten.Sahlen@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Tape chains... let's get them going
Well, whatever happened to them...? So, I think I'll get the snowball rolling.
The last time around these chains were discussed I proposed a tape with
(mainly) Swedish industrial music, and I actually got a few positive responses
to that. Maybe industrial is not the first thing you associate with indie
music, but frankly... it doesn't get much more alternative than this.
Now I've prepared a 100 minutes tape sampler with bands that all are on the
Linkoping based label Cold Meat Industry. So why subject yourself to this,
you may ask. Well, those interested will find that the label "industrial" really
covers a lot of different styles, and honestly I think that there will be a
little for everyone on the tape. It ranges from harsh scourging noise... to
tribal ritualistic percussion... to dark-ambient soundscapes... to Gregorian
chantings. Some bands are overtly satanist, while others are true to the Xtian
faith; all of them have an agenda, and are not in it just for the shock value.
Enough with my ramblings. I want list members that are interested in hooking up
on this tape chain to send a reply to me (not to the list) that includes your
land address. Then I'll prepare a send list, and I'll get back with more info
to all interestees. Mark my words, you're in for a treat :)
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:19:44 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: Re: Super***********b
According to Sami Rouhento:
* ...Next one up, "People's Democratic Movement"
* Some great bleeping moog thrown in
* for good measure!
Yeah, it even reminded me of the poppiest Stereolab tunes for that reason!
* Lastly we have a quiet and sooo pretty song called
* "trouble in sex",
Actually the song is nowadays called "Trouble with Sex"... not that
anybody except a nit-picker like woule care...
really it's very beautiful and sweet, that's all I
* can say. The band excels throughout, chanteuse Minna is in her usual
* breathy mode which makes me dizzy in the head, all in all if you're
* into bouncing jazz-tinged pop music I say you need a little Super in
* you life.
Hmmm...somehow I don't think it's really that jazzy (apart from the
guitar solo on "Spark" perhaps)... I would say it's more like
'easy-listening pop', you know. The kind that seems to be in vogue in
Japan :)
Anyway, I'll have to agree with Sami; it's a totally excellent and
sweet disc!
But what Sami forgot to mention is where you folks outside Finland can
get your copy of the CD5, if you're interested (and you should be :)
The address of the label is:
Tangerine Records
PO Box 183
00530 Helsinki
Finland
or write to the band:
Super
Rantaraitti 6
33100 Tampere
Finland
You can probably also send e-mail to their vocalist Minna to the
address:
timijo@uta.fi
If these options do not sound appealing, you can always ask Sami; I
think he still has a couple of copies under his bed :)
* ps. there was a release party here in Tampere yesterday and the band
* played a brilliant show. Also Saku (from psych-rockers COO) performed
* some Bruce Springsteen songs alone with a guitar and a harmonica and
* yes, I admit it sounds bizarre but he was totally impressing and went
* down a storm.
Speaking of Coo, I think they were supposed to release something (a
tape?) on Tangerine as well? Any news on that?
Kimmo
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:05:24 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Loosegoats Interview [07-Dec-95]
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Scandinavian Indie Presents: A short interview with
LOOSEGOATS
by Erik S|derstr|m (chief@lysator.liu.se)
after a gig at Herrg}r'n, Link|ping, Sweden, 07-Dec-95.
Loosegoats are:
Christian Kjellvander (vocals & guitar)
Jens L|wius (guitar & vocals)
Johan Hansson (drums)
Anders Tingsek (bass)
(c) 1995 Scandinavian Indie
If the answer is "A." it was answered by the group as a whole.
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Q. WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THE GIG TONIGHT?
A. It went well, but there were a couple of misses (that no-one noticed).
The stage swayed a bit too, which made two mineral water and a beer bottle
go overboard. But we were really well met by the staff here, like "Hi!,
here's some food and beer for you..." and so on. Terribly nice!
Q. I NOTICED A PLECTRUM FLYING THROUGH THE AIR...
JL. Yeah, it was mine. I continued to play with my nail like I used to,
so it wasn't too bad. I picked it up when the song ended.
CK. We had a couple, you could've borrowed one from us.
JL. Yeah, but I didn't know that then...
Q. WHAT SONGS DID YOU PLAY?
A. We played 'Telephonic Juncture', 'Broken Babe', 'Stop Droppin In',
'Freeloadin'', 'F, as in Dumped', 'Small Planet', 'Molly Coddle',
'Space Invaders', 'Slut', 'Lo-fi Barbie' and 'Alien Room'. Those
that aren't on our mini-CD will be released on our forthcoming full-
length.
Q. WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
A. Well, all of us are from Lund nowadays, but Johan lives in K{vlinge.
And Christian used to live in Seattle.
Q. THERE'S A NEW GUY ON BASS?
A. Yeah, M}rten L|fvander who played with us on our mini-CD had to do the
military service (fourteen months), so we've got Anders here on bass now.
AT. I play in a band called Blondbelly (also from Lund) as well. We're
releasing an EP on a small label that might just sound a bit like
Weezer, but with a lot of dist. Dist on everything!
Q. HOW ABOUT RELEASES?
A. We've only released the mini-CD, called 'Small Lesbian Baseball Players'
on Bad Taste Records (LOOSER 01), but we'll soon appear on a compilation
CD, also on Bad Taste. There are three bands from the US on that
compilation as well. Our song is a new one, which won't appear on the
full-length, but it isn't bad. We'll let you know how to get it when
you've sent us this interview, ha ha. You have to read about what label
our forthcoming full-length will be out on, because we're not satisified
with the offers we've received so far. It'll be out sometime around may
1996, we think, anyway.
[The songs on 'Small Lesbian Baseball Players' are: Telephonic Juncture,
Slut, Molly Coddle, Small Planet, Freeloadin' and Towel (I got you on my
mind).]
Q. SO WE MAY SEE YOU ON, SAY AN AMERICAN LABEL?
A. That's possible. Startrek Management in the US are really interested.
So interested in fact, that they have written sort of an option-contract
with us. The option ends in about six months, and it's only an option
to sign us, not for any records.
Q. HOW DID YOU GET SIGNED TO BAD TASTE?
JH. Well, Bad Taste resided in K{vlinge (they're in Lund these days). We
recorded 'Small Lesbian Baseball Players' (the whole mini-CD) as a
demo, then I went over there on my bike and gave it to them and they
decided to record it on the spot! That's the whole story right there.
Q. ARE YOU TOURING RIGHT NOW?
A. Sort of. We'll play in V{xj| with Fireside and Salt on the 12th, then
we're touring with Starmarket from the 13th to the 15th of december,
maybe. We're not quite sure of that yet.
Q. CHRISTIAN, WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH YOUR HOUSE IN SEATTLE AND PEARL JAM?
CK. You've read the interview in Expressen... that guy didn't have a clue.
Well, to clear things up, our house back in Seattle was not on the
back cover of Pearl Jam's 'Ten', but on a 7" that their fan-club
members (which I was) received, before 'Ten' was released. On the
back of that one, you can see our house.
[Here, Anders picks up a bass and Christian picks up an acoustic guitar,
and starts to play 4-5 new songs.]
CK. One of these will be a hit. I'm sure of it! The other ones, if not
hits, they will be successful at least!
[I can only agree that the songs they played were really good! Look out
for the full-length!]
Q. WHAT FESTIVALS HAVE YOU PLAYED?
A. We opened the Emmaboda festival this year (1995).
Q. WHO AM I TO CALL IF I WANT YOU TO COME AND PLAY?
A. You call us! Luger was really interested in having us on their list
though. They take about fifteen percent for their efforts. Looks like
the best booking company in Sweden right now. Motor is way too
expensive. Their percentage is a lot higher than Luger's.
Q. ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO END THIS INTERVIEW WITH?
CK. My little brother went with us to a gig in Gothenburg once and sang
with us when we played a Sebadoh song. We had never rehearsed that
song either. He's pretty amazing. Really fantastic with an electric
guitar as well. Right now, he's looking for people he can play with.
Play his kind of music, that is. But it's pretty hard to find people
like that in Lund.
Loosegoats can be contacted at +46-(0)46-734631
or by snail mail at: Christian Kjellvander
Ragnar Loobroks Gr{nd 2
224 75 Lund
SWEDEN
Scandinavian Indie Loosegoats interview 07-dec-95
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