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Scandinavian Indie Digest Vol 02 Issue 19
Scandinavian Indie Digest Fri Dec 15, 1995 Volume 2 : Issue 19
There are 51 messages totalling 1353 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Cardigans : Rise&Shine
2. Addresses to record labels (3)
3. Interesting live acts... (2)
4. un-crap canadian pop *no scan-indie content*
5. Interviews lined up - Questions?
6. Crap english hippie rock (tfc? ;) ) *no scan-indie content*
7. Ronnblom
8. Lipton's commercial (5)
9. Lipton's commercial/Sarah
10. Yvonne live
11. PJH (non-scan)
12. New Red Sleeping Beauty CD
13. Radiohead on P3 live??? (2)
14. Swervedriver! (4)
15. Kjell Hoglund?
16. Somersault WWW page
17. Radiohead / P3 Live This Week
18. Swervedriver, Popsicle
19. Motor Tour List [05-Dec-95]
20. Upcoming Releases
21. Salt (4)
22. Popsicle
23. Popsicle (+ the neverending slam on music journalists) (3)
24. Popsicle journalists (3)
25. Salt live for free!!! (+Yvonne, Fireside etc)
26. PJ cancelled
27. Journalists (2)
28. Salt + Fireside
29. PJ Harvey Cancelled
30. (long-winded, opinionated rant on..)Journalists (2)
31. That Popsicle Single
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 02:39:21 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Cardigans : Rise&Shine
On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Nicolas Moch <moch@mech.kth.se> wrote:
> Does anybody out there has the Rise & Shine Cardigans single ?
> I would like to buy one, if it is still available, or at least get the
> tracklisting and the cover picture for the home page.
> If one of you out there knows where I can find it, I will be VERY grateful...
I saw all their singles at Megahertz (a record store) in Jonkoping
(not that strange...) last week. You might want to call them and ask if
they can send it to you?
//Erik
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 02:39:00 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Addresses to record labels
On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Christer Nilsson <cnilsson@brooks.ICS.UCI.EDU> wrote:
> I am interested in getting the mailing addresses to Swedish record
> companies/labels. I am especially interested in the following ones:
This reminds me I need to update the list posted here about a year ago. :)
I have no time for that right now though, but I can post some of the addresses
you were looking for (I think the rest of the list might have some
interest in them as well, so I post them here):
A West Side Fabrication
P.O. Box 183
931 22 Skelleftea
SWEDEN
Phone: +46-910-38507
Fax : Same
Dolores Records
Drottninggatan 52
411 07 Gothenburg
SWEDEN
Phone: +46-31-150418
Fax: +46-31-152340
MNW Records Group
P.O. Box 271
185 23 Vaxholm
SWEDEN
Phone: +46-8-54133450
Fax: +46-8-54130060
> -Silence
> -Beverage
> -Stockholm Records
I have no addresses for these last three unfortunately. Anyone else?
//Erik
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:47:55 +0100 (MET)
From: Nicolas Moch <moch@mech.kth.se>
Subject: Re: Addresses to record labels
> On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Christer Nilsson <cnilsson@brooks.ICS.UCI.EDU> wrote:
>
> > I am interested in getting the mailing addresses to Swedish record
> > companies/labels. I am especially interested in the following ones:
I have only the adress of Stockholm Records :
Stockholm Records
P.O. Box 20504
161 02 Bromma
SWEDEN
Phone: +46-8-6296820
Fax: +46-8-6270864
Cheers,
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 12:31:15 +0200 (EET)
From: Joakim Schonert <jokke@katto.kaapeli.fi>
Subject: Interesting live acts...
Hello,
I'll be wissiting Stockholm next week (27.11 - 1.12) and I was wondering
are there any interesting gigs I should attend to while visiting your
lovely town. Anything goes, as long as it's interesting.
I am also interested in the club life of Stockholm, so if you know
anything worth checking out please mail me...
Thank you
Joakim:>
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:53:27 +0100
From: siri@algonet.se (siri ahmed)
Subject: Re: Addresses to record labels
>MNW Records Group
>P.O. Box 271
>185 23 Vaxholm
>SWEDEN
>Phone: +46-8-54133450
>Fax: +46-8-54130060
that's not right cos they have moved their office.
the new one is:
MNW Records Group AB
P.O. Box 535
S-183 25 T{by
Sweden
Phone: +46-8-630 10 33
Fax: +46-8-630 10 34
e-mail: headq@mnw.se
/siri
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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:26:42 -0100
From: a94johbo@ikm.his.se (John Boqvist)
Subject: un-crap canadian pop *no scan-indie content*
>hmm. but. did anyone of you who where there catch the opening opening
>band the inbreds? wooo were these guys ever fun to watch. i love them.
>bass and drums. simple and fuzzy. and oh, pretty beatlesesque.. ;)
>they'll be included in the 'zine i am doing. like you'd care, eh?
>sorry for the shameless self-promotion though..
Yes!
I caught the Inbreds. The really charmed me. Came to think of a lo-fi
version of early They Might Be Giants (at least the first songs).
Please tell me about your zine, I'm always interrested.
BTW, not many people were there when the Inbreds played (20 past seven).
Could we have been as many as 50?
J.
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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:10:33 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Interviews lined up - Questions?
'lo out there!
I only wanted to let you know that I've got Honey Is Cool lined up for
an interview later tonight (thursday) and Leslies next thursday (30/11)
so if you want to ask any of the bands something, or want to know
something, let me know and I'll ask them.
Sk}l,
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:36:43 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Crap english hippie rock (tfc? ;) ) *no scan-indie content*
>> BTW, did anyone but me attend the gig of the century, TFC at Studion?
>> Tell me what you thougth!
I did. Love them, as always. I can't help it but, i get so happy when i
hear them. The melodies, the atmosphere, the way they talk to the audience,
makes me lucky, somehow.
And then they did one of the best songs this year: "Mellow Doubt", which
also has brilliant lyrics that means something to me. That's personal, but
anyway...
Still, i agree with Langstrom that Bandwagonesque was the best album
they've made, compared to the later ones.
Jan Sundstrom
"Faces of fear, hands of desperation" - Scapa Flow
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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:48:47 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Interesting live acts...
>Hello,
>I'll be wissiting Stockholm next week (27.11 - 1.12) and I was wondering
>are there any interesting gigs I should attend to while wissiting your
>lovely town.
Yeah! Definitely Radiohead the 1/12 at Gino. Support Drugstore i think.
Radiohead are ace, and they slammed Gino the last time they played there!
There's also a party for the arty magazine 90-Tal, with lot's of jet set
people in downtown Stockholm 28/11. A few live acts will be there,
including seminal act Dom Dummaste ("The Most Stupids"). Maybe someone else
on the list knows more about this fiesta?!
Jan Sundstrom
"Living is for other men, I hope you do understand" / The Verve -
'History'
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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:40:41 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Ronnblom
Newsflash:
Legendary prog artist Anders F Ronnblom play two rare concerts:
19/12 Stockholm, Studion
20/12 Uppsala, Rackis
Catch him, coz he only play 2-3 times a year!
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:24:44 +0100 (MET)
From: Nicolas Moch <moch@mech.kth.se>
Subject: Lipton's commercial
Hi everybody,
Well, I checked out the Lipton commercial. All I can say is that it is
not the Cardigans. It is said to be someone who copied their sound,
though, because it is very similar...
If anybody knows who it is, I will be very interested to know.
Cheers,
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:53:04 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: Re: Lipton's commercial
According to Nicolas Moch:
* Well, I checked out the Lipton commercial. All I can say is that it is
* not the Cardigans. It is said to be someone who copied their sound,
* though, because it is very similar...
*
* If anybody knows who it is, I will be very interested to know.
Indeed! It's on a quite heavy rotation in Finnish TV as well (it has
to be, since I have seen it already a couple of times, and I watch
very little TV these days...apart from The Bold And The Beautiful of
course %)
You're my favourite cup of tea...
Kimmo
trkisa@uta.fi
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:56:20 +0100 (MET)
From: Petter Tiilikainen <burrito@ludd.luth.se>
Subject: Re: Lipton's commercial
According to Nicolas Moch:
> * Well, I checked out the Lipton commercial. All I can say is that it is=
>
> * not the Cardigans. It is said to be someone who copied their sound,
> * though, because it is very similar...
Copied their sound? Ever heard of the brittish label Sarah?
Petter
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:08:57 +0100 (MET)
From: Nicolas Moch <moch@mech.kth.se>
Subject: Re: Lipton's commercial
On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Petter Tiilikainen wrote:
> > * Well, I checked out the Lipton commercial. All I can say is that it is
> > * not the Cardigans. It is said to be someone who copied their sound,
> > * though, because it is very similar...
>
> Copied their sound? Ever heard of the brittish label Sarah?
Hello,
I just told what I heard... By the way I never heard of this label, do
you have some informatioon. I know that the Cardigans areheavily inspired
by 60s british pop, but I don't have any examples...
Thanks in advance...
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:27:42 +0200 (EET)
From: Sami Rouhento <trsaro@uta.fi>
Subject: Re: Lipton's commercial
Petter Tiilikainen wrote:
> > * Well, I checked out the Lipton commercial. All I can say is that it is
> > * not the Cardigans. It is said to be someone who copied their sound,
> > * though, because it is very similar...
>
> Copied their sound? Ever heard of the brittish label Sarah?
Well, which Sarah band were you thinking of, coz I can't think
straight away of one that would sound as irritatingly
kitschy-jazzy-retro as the Cardigans do.
Sami
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:42:22 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: Re: Lipton's commercial/Sarah
According to Nicolas Moch:
* > Copied their sound? Ever heard of the brittish label Sarah?
* I just told what I heard... By the way I never heard of this label, do
* you have some informatioon. I know that the Cardigans areheavily inspired
* by 60s british pop, but I don't have any examples...
Well...what can I say... Sarah are (or should I say were?) a seminal
UK indiepop label, I mean THE seminal label of the past decade or so!
Bands in their roster were Field Mice, Heavenly, Blueboy, Northern
Picture Library, The Orchids among many others.
Their music could be described as twee, sensitive, emotional, fluffy
with exactly the right amount of naivety and honesty... I'm sure
somebody else on this list can give a better description than this.
If you want to find out more about the lable, get the "Sarah 100:
There And Back Again Lane" compilation CD. It sums up the label and
its bands quite well.
Kimmo
who thinks "Paris" by Northern Picture Library changed a little bit of
his life forever
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:21:58 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Yvonne live
Anyone going to Yvonne at Stockholm, Gino the 13th???
Rumours tell that they're playing Studion the 21th too. Can anyone confirm?
I'm going, definitely!
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:24:18 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: PJH (non-scan)
Also, time is closing in for PJ Harvey at Stockholm, Cirkus the 10th. I was
lucky to get tickets. guess they're sold out by now.
I saw her twice back in 1992, at festivals in England, and i must say she
was more rock then, compared to the gig at Gino this spring.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 13:22:12 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: New Red Sleeping Beauty CD
Hello everybody!
The following message was posted to the indiepop mailing list, I
thought I'd pass it on:
According to Peter Hahndorf:
Just in time for your X-mas shopping are two new CDs by German label
Marsh Marigold Records. First the long overdue debut-full length by
Swedish popsters RED SLEEPING BEAUTY. Actually it's only 19:45 min
long but it has eight songs. It's called 'Bedroom', but has nothing to
do with bedroom pop. BTW have you ever encountered a Swedish band
making bedroom pop?
Personally I think the songs here are the best they released since
their 'Pop Sounds' 3" CD back in 1992. I'm looking forward to their
appearance at the annual Marsh Marigold X-mas festival in two weeks.
Contact:
Marsh Marigold Record
c/o Oliver Goetzl
Simrockstr. 111
22589 Hamburg
Germany
or me via e-mail
Pete
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In case somebody is interested, the other new Marsh Marigold release
is a CD by the French band Caramel.
Kimmo
trkisa@uta.fi
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 17:41:59 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Radiohead on P3 live???
Anyone attended the RH gigs this weekend?
Stockholm was great, almost as good as the one in april. I'm actually
listening to my recording at this very moment.
I noticed Thom standing beside the stage during the Drugstore gig, hughing
his teddybear real tight! He's freaked out.
I noticed also the P3 truck outside. Does anyone know when/if this will be
broadcasted???
Jan Sundstrom
"And I used to fly like Peter Pan" ( Radiohead - Bones )
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 17:43:40 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Swervedriver!
Swervies comes to SWeden!!!
According to Aftonbladet, they'll play:
Linkoping 24/1
Goteborg 25/1
Stockholm 30/1
A list meet?!
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 21:49:01 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Kjell Hoglund?
This messages announces that KJELL HOGLUND will join Anders F Ronnblom at
the concert in Stockholm (Studion) the 19/12.
Check'em out. They're both very cool!
Look also at Kjelles homepage:
http://www.fsdm.se/Atlantis/text/Kjell.html
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 03:56:00 +0100
From: Erik S|derstr|m <chief@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Somersault WWW page
I've updated and almost completed the Somersault page now. The only
thing missing are the photos. I'll try to scan them as soon as possible
and add them to the page. Check it out at:
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/somersault.html - or -
http://sf.www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/somersault.html
(in case the first one doesn't work).
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:42:58 +0100
From: Erik S|derstr|m <chief@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Swervedriver!
On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
> Swervies comes to SWeden!!!
> According to Aftonbladet, they'll play:
> Linkoping 24/1
[snip]
> A list meet?!
Well, I've booked that date in my calendar for them Swervies-fellas.
If anyone's coming to Linkoping, I'd be happy to serve as .. hmm..
guide and so on. :)
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:43:24 +0100
From: Erik S|derstr|m <chief@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Radiohead / P3 Live This Week
On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
> Anyone attended the RH gigs this weekend?
> I noticed also the P3 truck outside. Does anyone know when/if this will be
> broadcasted???
Hmm, I guess it'll be pretty soon. They're damn quick these days, though
it's not going to be this week, because this week's schedule is as follows:
Mon 4/12 Wild Rover (Linkoping 28-Oct-95)
Tue 5/12 Cheb Mami (Galarparken, Stockholm, 15-Jun-95)
Wed 6/12 Dr Alban (Gatufesten, Sundsvall, 7-Jul-95)
Thu 7/12 Foo Fighters (Cirkus, Stockholm, 17-Oct-95)
Fri 8/12 Cardigans (Live)
Sat 9/12 Fancy Pool, Retard, Oliver Hardy (Ungdomsgarden, Tellus, Skara)
Sun 10/12 Boogaloo (Fredmans, Malmo, 23-Nov-95)
Time: ALWAYS at 21.03 (*** EXCEPT *** Fridays (ie. Cardigans) = 21.10)
Anyone catch Oasis, Menswear, Beastie Boys, Supergrass, Levellers and
Tricky (from Roskilde and Hultsfred) on P3 Live last week? Anyone recorded
any of it? I missed the whole thing 'cause I had to visit my parents. :-/
//Erik
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 11:39:05 +0100
From: y-runann@jmk.su.se (Anna-Karin Rundquist)
Subject: Re: Radiohead on P3 live???
>Anyone attended the RH gigs this weekend?
>Stockholm was great, almost as good as the one in april. I'm actually
>listening to my recording at this very moment.
>I noticed Thom standing beside the stage during the Drugstore gig, hughing
>his teddybear real tight! He's freaked out.
>
>I noticed also the P3 truck outside. Does anyone know when/if this will be
>broadcasted???
It probably will. Ther was a truck outside Suede's first concert at Cirkus
and they broadcasted that, but several months later.
akeen writes poems of friendship
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:24:13 +0100 (MET)
From: Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se>
Subject: Re: Swervedriver!
On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Jan Sundstrom suggested:
> Stockholm 30/1
>
> A list meet?!
yes, why not? i haven't heard their latest album though so, what's it like?
hmm, while on the topic of new releases.. has anyone out there got the new
popsicle cdsingle? are there any opinions out here?
.per
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 16:32:38 +0100
From: ludde@kore.lk.se (Ludvig Borgne)
Subject: Swervedriver!
> yes, why not? i haven't heard their latest album though so, what's it like?
Funny, I'm listening to it right now. It's pretty ok. Much more mellow than
the previous ones, though. Some really good songs, some not so good.
The first song sounds almost exactly like the first song on Boo Radley's
first full length, Spaniard.
While I'm at it, I might as well add some scan-indie content...
Two of the records I listen to the most right now are Honey Is Cool's
"Focky Focky No Pay" and Yvonne's eponymously titled debut.
Really good, both of them, even though I like the songs on HIC's demo much
more than the new songs.
/Ludde
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 16:40:28 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Swervedriver, Popsicle
>yes, why not? i haven't heard their latest album though so, what's it like?
It's ace cooool! I got a deleted verison for _free_ from the Fan Club,
including a promo version of "It's all happening now" not available
anywhere else. Definitely worth having!
There's also a hidden track...
>hmm, while on the topic of new releases.. has
>anyone out there got the new popsicle cdsingle?
No, what about the Undulate CD??? Is it a UK-only release?
I also met Andreas + Olle Ljungstrom yesterday at Medborgarplatsen. They
were probably on their way to Hannas ;), i asked them about more live
shows. Not until January, both said.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 06:17:51 +0100
From: Erik S|derstr|m <chief@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Motor Tour List [05-Dec-95]
Motor Tour List 05-Dec-1995
Swedish artists
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59 times the pain Burning Heart
10/12 Dilzen (B) - Jeugdhuis
Liberator Burning Heart
21/12 Gothenburg - Cue Club New
22/12 Stockholm - Studion New
LPC Beverage
5/12 Lund - Mejeriet
6/12 Gothenburg - Underground
Millencolin Burning Heart
support : 59 times the pain
5/12 Merseille (F) - CCM Mirabeu
6/12 Pau (F) - Le Paco
7/12 Borduaex (F) - Le Jimmy
8/12 Thiers (F) - Le Balthazar
9/12 Paris (F) - Le Espace Sedaine
11/12 Leeds (UK) - Duched of York
12/12 London - The Garage
13/12 Nottingham (UK) - The Narrowboat
14/12 Birmingham (UK) - The Foundre
19/1 Fieberbrunn (A)- World Pro Half pipe final
25/1 K|penhamn - Pumpehuset New
27/1 Arvidjaur - Medborgarhuset New
31/1 Oslo - Betong New
1/2 Bergen - Hulen New
3/2 Trondheim - Studentsamfund New
6/3 Osaka - Club Quattro New
7/3 Nagoya - Club Quattro New
8/3 Tokyo - Club Quattro New
9/3 Tokyo - Club Quattro New
No Fun at all Burning Heart
11/12 Leeds - Duched of York
12/12 London - The Garage
13/12 Nottingham - The Narrowboat
25/1 K|penhamn - Pumpehuset
31/1 Utrecht (NL) - Tivoli
1/2 Nijmegen (NL) - Doomroojse
2/2 Eidhoven (NL) - Effenaar
3/2 Amsterdam (NL) - Melkweg
5/2 Mari (G) - tba
6/2 Frankfurt (G)
7/2 Luzern (CH)
8/2 Bern (CH)
9/2 Basel (CH)
10/2 Zurich (CH)
11 2 Bregens (A)
13/2 Munchen (G)
14/2 Linz (A)
16/2 Stuttgart (G)
17/2 Mannheim (G)
18/2 K|ln (G)
20/2 Dortmund (G)
21/2 Bielefeld (G)
22/2 Ebbenburen (G)
23/2 Pinee (G)
24/2 Berlin (G)
25/2 Hamburg (G)
1/3 Fagersta - Showcaseparty
2/3 \rebro - Showcaseparty
6/3 Osaka - Club Quattro
7/3 Nagoya - Club Quattro
8/3 Tokyo - Club Quattro
9/3 Tokyo - Club Quattro
Porklift Soundfront rec.
9/12 Falun - Valhalla New
12/12 Kalmar - Bj|rklokalen New
Randy Dolores Rec.
16/12 Arvidsjaur - Medborgarhuset New
Satanic Surfers Burning Heart
7/12 Gothenburg - Underground
19/1 Lund - Mejeriet New
8/12 Sk|vde - Gorilla Rock New
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Non-Swedish artists
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Cast (UK) PolyGram
14/12 Stockholm - Gino
15/12 Oslo - So What
16/12 Gothenburg - Magasin 3
17/12 K|benhavn - Loppen
CIV (US) Wea
1/2 K|benhavn - Stengade 30 New
2/2 Oslo - Blitz New
3/2 Stockholm - Studion New
D`Angelo (US) Emi
9/2 Stockholm - Gino New
10/2 K|benhavn - Pumpehuset New
GLove & Special Sauce (US) Sony
24/1 Lund - Mejeriet New
25/1 Stockholm - Gino New
Ruby (UK) Sony
22/1 Stockholm - Studion
23/1 Oslo - So What
Teen foot pole (US) Border/Epitaph
16/1 K|penhamn - Cafe Rust New
17/1 Norrk|ping - Kammaren New
18/1 Borl{nge - Kosmos New
19/1 Lund - Mejeriet New
Voodo glow Skulls (US) Border/Epitaph
23/1 Lund - Mejeriet New
24/1 Stockholm - Studion New
25/1 Albergslund (DK) - F|rbr{ndning New
26/1 ]rhus - Musikcafen New
27/1 ]lborg - 1000 fryd New
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 06:18:10 +0100
From: Erik S|derstr|m <chief@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Upcoming Releases
Some upcoming releases that might be of interest to us scandies:
Note that all dates are preliminary!
Date Artist Title Format Label
------- ------------ --------------- ------ -----------------------
Dec/Jan Popsicle tba CD Telegram Records
29 Jan Popundret tba CD A West Side Fabrication
29 Jan The Drowners tba CD A West Side Fabrication
5 Feb Svart Sn| tba CD Beat Butchers
8 Feb Puffin tba CD5 A West Side Fabrication
25 Feb Puffin tba CD A West Side Fabrication
Mar A Shrine tba CD A West Side Fabrication
First quarter 1996
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? ??? Kent tba CD BMG
Anyone knows something that should be added to this list? Souls for
example?
//Erik
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 21:42:41 -0800
From: Christer Nilsson <cnilsson@binky.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Subject: Salt
Salt is on heavy rotation on the major "rock" radio stations in the
LA-area. They also keep mentioning that they are from Sweden.
I wonder if people are buying the record though...
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 08:46:11 +0100
From: ludde@kore.lk.se (Ludvig Borgne)
Subject: Popsicle
> >hmm, while on the topic of new releases.. has
> >anyone out there got the new popsicle cdsingle?
>
> No, what about the Undulate CD??? Is it a UK-only release?
Do you mean the Whitsun EP?
Or is there a separate single for Undulate as well?
Hmm, some day I'll make an attempt to update that discography I made a
couple of years ago.
/Ludde
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 13:31:22 +0200 (EET)
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti)
Subject: Re: Salt
According to Christer Nilsson:
* Salt is on heavy rotation on the major "rock" radio stations in the
* LA-area. They also keep mentioning that they are from Sweden.
*
* I wonder if people are buying the record though...
I certainly hope they are... looking back at this year's releases, I
think "Auscultate" is absolutely one of the best things I have heard,
not only Scan-Indie -wise, but on a global scale (huge thanks to
Robert C for picking up the CD for me!! :) ) Too bad we missed them at
Trastockfestivalen...
Kimmo
trkisa@uta.fi
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 15:54:53 +0100 (MET)
From: Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se>
Subject: Re: Popsicle (+ the neverending slam on music journalists)
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Ludvig Borgne wrote:
> > >hmm, while on the topic of new releases.. has
> > >anyone out there got the new popsicle cdsingle?
> >
> > No, what about the Undulate CD??? Is it a UK-only release?
>
> Do you mean the Whitsun EP?
> Or is there a separate single for Undulate as well?
huh? no. um, it's a totally new one. and it was supposed to have been
released this past friday (dec.1st) and supposed to be called "forever.."
something. a good friend of mine got it in the mail last week and he
says it's pretty ok. so now i want to hear it myself. and yeah, of course
my friend is a journalist. who else but them would get records for free
before they are even being released..? i can't believe how much they
(journalists) are being sucked up to. they never buy new records and they
usually don't know sh*t about the artists (expect for what is being
mouth-fed to them in the press-releases) they are reviewing.
they suck so bad it's unbelievable.
go shellac and palace brothers who don't support this "sucking-up by
sending out promos to journalist"-system!!!
grr .per
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 16:42:21 +0100
From: Christian Bartholdsson <chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: Popsicle (+ the neverending slam on music journalists)
Per L\engstr\vm writes:
>i can't believe how much they
>(journalists) are being sucked up to. they never buy new records and they
>usually don't know sh*t about the artists (expect for what is being
>mouth-fed to them in the press-releases) they are reviewing.
>
>they suck so bad it's unbelievable.
That depends on what journalists you're talking about...
- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se <http://www.update.uu.se/~chris/>
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:03:11 +0100 (MET)
From: Ulf.Harnhammar@abc.se (Ulf Harnhammar)
Subject: Popsicle journalists
How do you think you would've found out about Popsicle's very existence, had
there been no music journalists in our very country?
-ulf
http://www.abc.se/~m9656/
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 18:04:03 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Popsicle journalists
>How do you think you would've found out about Popsicle's very existence, had
>there been no music journalists in our very country?
The question is a bit quirky, but i'd say yes, maybe.
The first time i read about them was in Nojesguiden when they became demo
of the month (Jan Gradvall?). Later, i also read in Expressens archive, the
first time they were mentioned. That was Lars Lindstrom, seing them live in
Pitea (or Skelleftea). He wrote something like: "these guys are going to
get big, i promise. Remember where you read it first.".
Personally, i first heard about them in august -91(?), when they were
palying in Pet Sounds basement at Tulegatan, in their old shop. That was
just when Template was released. Later that year i saw them in Uppsala on
the "Trimotore" tour, with Mindscape and This Perfect Day(?).
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 18:09:53 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Popsicle (+ the neverending slam on music journalists)
>> Or is there a separate single for Undulate as well?
Yes, there is one separate. I've seen it listed a few times. I believe it's
not released here, just like Histrionics and Little Princess.
>my friend is a journalist. who else but them would get records for free
>before they are even being released..?
>they suck so bad it's unbelievable.
Hey, i'm a journalist, although not employed at the moment. I used to work
at Expressen. Don't throw shit at journos, in fact you should blame the
record companies who send this stuff to them. But then, these are private
companies, they can do what they want with their promos. And as long as
they see that this works and their artists get press, there's no way to
stop them. I could argue a lot more on this, but i leave it now...
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 18:33:13 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Salt live for free!!! (+Yvonne, Fireside etc)
> Too bad we missed them at Trastockfestivalen...
Hey! got a letter today from Gino. They're playing sunday 10/12, for free!
That is for all members of Gino-bar. I don't know haw to become member,
maybe you could call them?
Fireside are also playing the same night, and Yvonne are playing the 13th,
also for free!
Count me in! List meet???
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 18:34:34 +0100
From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: PJ cancelled
PJ Harvey is off. Cancelled due to illness, said todays DN. Just thought
you'd wanna know. 12 gigs are affected. Incl Stockholm and some more.
Jan Sundstrom
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 12:42:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Forsberg <forsberg@charm.net>
Subject: Re: Salt
On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Christer Nilsson wrote:
> Salt is on heavy rotation on the major "rock" radio stations in the
> LA-area. They also keep mentioning that they are from Sweden.
Cool! Maybe this is a good sign they will tour the States, and release
their video to MTV USA. The first time I heard "Honour Me", I thought how
perfectly it would fit into the WHFS (Baltimore local "alternative" radio
station) playlist....
--
forsberg@charm.net Chris Forsberg
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:36:50 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Salt
On Tue, 05 Dec 1995, Christer Nilsson <cnilsson@binky.ICS.UCI.EDU> wrote:
> Salt is on heavy rotation on the major "rock" radio stations in the
> LA-area. They also keep mentioning that they are from Sweden.
That's great! I've been trying to get some news out of their record
label for a while about touring outside Sweden, but I haven't received
an answer yet. I'll talk to them in person on monday though, so maybe
I can get some answers then.
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:37:07 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Journalists
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se> wrote:
...a lot of things about journalists, and I just had to write something
myself. I respect journalists, as long as they have their facts right
and aren't making things up, or writing stuff about something they don't
know anything about.
Christian wanted to know what journalists one is talking about, so
I'll go ahead and slag one. Anders Nunstedt. He's written so much
shit, and I don't mean his own opinions, because of course, he's
entitled to have those, like the rest of us, but his facts and his
journalism looks like he just made up his journalist degree. Examples?
Sure. The parade example is - tadaa: The Charlatans.
1) His review of The Charlatans "The Charlatans".
He says that there are no hammond on the album, which he thinks
is great. Even the headline for the review stated that fact.
* Fact: The hammond is present on ALL tracks on the album.
2) His interview / festival report from the Stockholm Water Festival
about The Charlatans stated that they played just when China
blew off their fireworks, which made the concert a bit strange.
* Fact: Funny that. I was there. I guess he wasn't, because they
let The Charlatans gig wait for China's fireworks to end, making
it 1/2 an hour late.
3) Note in expressen friday - "Tim Burgess, singer in Charlatans
is a man of good taste. Therefor it was a bit chocking to open
the latest issue of the trend magazine I-D, which has a big
story about the english pop group. The article is namely
illustrated with cool pictures of Tim - wearing a Djurgarden
sweater."
* Fact: Explanation for those outside Sweden: Djurgarden is a hockey/
soccer/etc team from Stockholm. If Anders Nunstedt had been at their
gig at the Stockholm Water festival, he would have noted, like I did,
that a bunch of guys (standing next to me) in front of the stage
threw that Djurgarden sweater to Tim, which he then wore through
the rest of the gig. Now THAT would have been something to write
about, but to write that he's surprised instead, just shows a lot
about his journalistic ability, and even makes the no.2 above even
more clear about him not being there at all.
I did write to expressen and asked about these things, but, as you well
know, no answers and nothing on the "readers" page. WHO DARE TO QUESTION
A. NUNSTEDT?! Yeah, he's a god. Right. Thank you for your objectiveness.
And I won't even mention his appearence in the, frequent shown on MTV,
"Sweden" commercial.
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:37:33 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Salt + Fireside
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
> Hey! got a letter today from Gino. They're playing sunday 10/12, for free!
> That is for all members of Gino-bar. I don't know haw to become member,
> maybe you could call them? Fireside are also playing the same night,
Yeah! And they play here the day after! 11/12 at Skylten, Linkoping
(Salt + Fireside), not for free though, but 50:- is affordable I think.
I nicked one of them SALT + FIRESIDE tour posters they've put up all
over the town yesterday. It's beautiful on my wall. :-)
Thank you lord.
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:37:51 +0100
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: PJ Harvey Cancelled
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote:
> PJ Harvey is off. Cancelled due to illness, said todays DN. Just thought
> you'd wanna know. 12 gigs are affected. Incl Stockholm and some more.
Yeah, they announced it on Z TV last night as well. All Scandinavian
dates are cancelled. Only Z TV had a scoop, saying that she wasn't ill
at all, but making a video with Nick Cave in Germany instead. Who knows.
Maybe the ticket sales were bad around here?
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 17:39:59 +0100 (MET)
From: Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se>
Subject: Re: (long-winded, opinionated rant on..)Journalists
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995 Erik wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Per L}ngstr|m <s94pla@csd.uu.se> wrote:
>
> ...a lot of things about journalists, and I just had to write something
> myself. I respect journalists, as long as they have their facts right
> and aren't making things up, or writing stuff about something they don't
> know anything about.
yes, but when they try to become the most important part of the show (in
this case: the music business) it just gets really, really ugly. music
would be around no matter if the journalists were. and. people would, most
likely, go to shows and buy records even if there were no musically
oriented journalists around. so. is there *really* a need for them?
but, i guess they do exist to serve some kind of purpose. and that is
part of what is so disguisting about this. sure, i love to read
well-written articles/interviews on bands/artists that i, personally,
find interesting/enjoyable. but when they (the evil journalists) along with
the major record companies are trying to actually friggin' *teach* us as
readers what music and bands who are cool to like it is really getting to
be fucked up! i understand that it is mighty hard for a person writing
about music *not* to write about it in a non-objective point of view, but
what we are seeing here in sweden, it's just sick! people like anders
nunstedt just believes that his opinions on music is, like, the word of
god. i just can't fucking believe it! who is who to say one record is
better than another?!? i mean, just because you have heard 99% of all the
records ever made, you may not be one bit right when it comes to what *i*
personally like!! if music in one way can be better than in another, is it
possible to point out the best colour in the world too?!?!? by taking
this as an example, i am refering to the music magazine pop's list on
the hundred best records ever. this list was put together by the people
who are making pop (the magazine). and to me, it's one of the most
offensive journalistic pieces on music i've ever read! who are these
people to say what records are the best ever?!? sorry, i don't get it.
sure, they all know a lot about the history of music etc etc but why in
the world do people believe this list is "the list of the best records
ever"? it's just twenty different persons putting together a list of
what records they like the most. and they are all rather good friends
so, well, obviously they have pretty much the same opinions (as friends
tend to have).
and then, every music interested kid around goes "wow. are these really
the best albums ever made? yeah, they must be because that is what those
guys say and if they don't know, who does?".. the thing is that no one
does. everyone should really try to listen to the music and then make up
their own minds, no matter what anders nunstedt and/or jan gradvall
believe. try to overlook their attempts to educate you and your taste in
music. their words are based on nothing else but their very own opinions.
so. they are not backed up by god or whomever.
enough ranting. music is the works. so let's just forget about them
getting payed for writing about it and just get along instead, shall we?
.per
ps. i am a little sorry for naming jan gradvall in the same sentence as
anders nunstedt. i respect jan gradvall an his opinions a lot
more than mr.nunstedt who just seems to know absolutely nothing
about anything. and still he keeps trying to impose his opinions
on us. yuk. that man really does suck.
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 19:03:26 +0200 (EET)
From: Sami Rouhento <trsaro@uta.fi>
Subject: Re: Popsicle journalists
> How do you think you would've found out about Popsicle's very existence, had
> there been no music journalists in our very country?
Through the internet and lists like this, surely. Going to see bands
play, just to find out how they sound. Talking to your
friends. Reading fanzines (written by fans rather than journalists -
people who actually have to pay
for the music they review). I'd say the Finnish music press has not
introduced me to one single interesting band for quite a
while... Can't speak for Swedish journos, of course.
Sami
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 95 18:33:56 +0100
From: robert@astro.su.se (Robert Cumming)
Subject: Re: (long-winded, opinionated rant on..)Journalists
Per L}ngstr|m wrote:
> sure, i love to read well-written articles/interviews on
> bands/artists that i, personally, find interesting/enjoyable. but
> when they (the evil journalists) along with the major record
> companies are trying to actually friggin' *teach* us as readers what
> music and bands who are cool to like it is really getting to be
> fucked up! i understand that it is mighty hard for a person writing
> about music *not* to write about it in a non-objective point of
> view, but what we are seeing here in sweden, it's just sick! people
> like anders nunstedt just believes that his opinions on music is,
> like, the word of god. i just can't fucking believe it! who is who
> to say one record is better than another?!?
OK, OK, relax. We all _know_ there are no objective standards, no
absolutes and everything is equally good and valuable. There is no
intrinsic difference between Sonic Dream Collective and the Bear
Quartet and Mahler's Fifth Symphony. Unsurprisingly, people all have
different tastes. Some people have similar tastes to other people.
Also, some people can _write_ about their tastes better than other
people.
I happen to like Nordic indie music. I cannot possibly go out and buy
all of it, and then decide what I like. I haven't got the time to
queue up in Aahlens and listen to it all either. Nor do I have so
many friends who like the same stuff as I do. And they don't play a
whole lot of it on the radio. So I read what the journalists have to
say. I read what the people on this group have to say. Then I have
less of an overload problem when I go with my 160kr to the nearest
record shop. And I can listen and see whether I do like what I hear.
So I can read through POP's Top 100 albums and look for things that
might appeal to me. And when I see Sly and the Family Stone at number
one I think, well, maybe I can check that one out sometime.
The problems arise when somebody writes '[band I like] are crap!'.
That's just bad journalism. Much more often, it's '[band I like] are
past their best, are uninventive, uninspiring, and are basically just
copying [some other band]'. Then, it can be much more difficult to
listen to the record and say, well, actually I _do_ still like it.
But this is _my_ problem. My taste is still the same, but actually it
is influenced quite a bit by what I read. It would be nice to have a
taste highly independent of the rest of the world. But then, just
think, you might discover you actually liked 2 Unlimited better than
Sonic Youth! What a thought...
Robert
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 95 18:45:20 +0100
From: robert@astro.su.se (Robert Cumming)
Subject: That Popsicle Single
I heard 'Now Forever' (is that right? Hope so!) on P3 last night for
the first time. It's a nice song, in the Popsicle tradition ('Wake
up' rather than 'Hey Princess', of course). So the Popsicle fans (hi
Kimmo!) will probably like it. However, Andreas's voice is _really_
weak on it. I don't suppose he'd claim to be the world's greatest
singer, but he's quite simply missing a lot of the notes, and it
sounds really unprofessional. He didn't seem to have those problems
on 'Abstinence' and 'Lacquer'. I dunno, some people who can sing well
produce hopeless records (Elton John, say) and the reverse is true of
some others (Matti from TBQ, Jukka from Aknestik). (Why did the
Pastels never make it big? for example...)
Robert, trying hard not to sound like a j**rn*l*st
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 95 20:21:06 +0100
From: Christian Bartholdsson <chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: Journalists
Per L}ngstr|m writes:
>this as an example, i am refering to the music magazine pop's list on
>the hundred best records ever. this list was put together by the people
>who are making pop (the magazine). and to me, it's one of the most
>offensive journalistic pieces on music i've ever read! who are these
>people to say what records are the best ever?!? sorry, i don't get it.
>sure, they all know a lot about the history of music etc etc but why in
>the world do people believe this list is "the list of the best records
>ever"? it's just twenty different persons putting together a list of
>what records they like the most.
That last sentence shows that you know what it's all about. So what's
all the fuss? Why do you think everyone is out to get you?
They're just opinions like mine and yours and everyone else's.
Of course they're not objective, it would be ridiculous if music journalists
had such intensions.
>and they are all rather good friends
>so, well, obviously they have pretty much the same opinions (as friends
>tend to have).
You'd be surprised...
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