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The Charlatans Digest Volume 02 Issue 12
The Charlatans Digest Wed Jun 5, 1996 Volume 2 : Issue 12
There are 78 messages totalling 1710 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Odd things. Strange day, going to get worse.
2. Charlatans info (or lack thereof) (2)
3. A load of crap
4. wise words (9)
5. More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers (13)
6. You guys rock. (3)
7. more questions.
8. smart music tastes
9. Viva CREAM (4)
10. R&R (3)
11. life is sweet
12. Birthday Greetings
13. Quotes?
14. cummings?? (3)
15. Happy Birthday Tim (2)
16. canadian (7)
17. Some friendly video (3)
18. brands (15)
19. happy birthday
20. brands and Crashin' In
21. Levi deals.
22. Good day
23. Life under the influence of the Charlatans
24. Bob's yer Uncle
25. Recent Boots
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:33:24 +0100
From: Dale Winton <ee0u5064@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Odd things. Strange day, going to get worse.
I really do wonder what the world is coming to when I read the piles of
incoherent babble (I think that best describes it) that some people have
written on this fan page thing. It is a sorry state of affairs but then
again, none of you are going to live in L8 next year and have your garden
wall covered in broken glass and razor wire.
It's a good show when you see that there are wire cages all over the windows
and the kids across the road try and shoot you with there air rifles.
Anyone out there live in Moss Side or Hansworth?
So once again LONG LIVE DANCE, ACUTALLY HARD HOUSE.
Goodbye
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:24:42 +0100 (BST)
From: "H.Ismail" <hi195@soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Charlatans info (or lack thereof)
Jen!
Are you missing out on Between 10th and 11th, the second album? Go and buy it
NOW!
Han
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:36:05 GMT0
From: "WE STAND WHERE THE RIVER BENDS, I HOPE WE FALL IN..."
<a94cw@luton.ac.uk>
Subject: A load of crap
Sorry to say this but really you are all talking a load of crap of late.
Tim Burgess is a babe how dare anyone slag him off.
Anyway nowt to do with the Charlies.... but has anyone on read Ecstasy by
Irvine Welsh?
Our Kid.
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:56:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject:
> Hello,
> My name is Dale Winton (not the popular tv star), and I am promoting the use
> of good hard house music for r&r.
> By listening to music of a bpm of about 130-150, the brain is stimulated by
> the release of endorphins and so a state of pleasure is reached. This is not
> achived by Indie.
Okay, here is something I am completely ignorant about - house vs indie.
Would anyone care to elaborate? Names of bands that I might be able to
find here in the US might help, as well.
> If any of you want to go to a decent club up north, then email me and I
> will send you the infomation you want.
> So, long live the club movement, and start listening to decent music.
>
> Goodbye
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 9:39:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: JLOWE@GC1.GEORCOLL.ON.CA
Subject: Re: wise words
1) Can we stop talking about 2-Unlimited and Cream?
2) The 60's (not 70's) rock band Cream were very good...you should open
your mind beyond what the press tells you is cool. The charlatans owe
a heavy debt to guitar bands like Cream (Eric Clapton, Ginger Evans & someone
else).
jim
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Date: Wed, 29 May 96 15:07:18 BST
From: "M.D.Bridger-95" <M.D.Bridger-95@student.lut.ac.uk>
Subject:
Damn You Dale Winton!
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 19:19:40 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Mikko Paila <milkki@walrus.megabaud.fi>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
> I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
> is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
> brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:56:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: wise words
> 2) The 60's (not 70's) rock band Cream were very good...you should open
> your mind beyond what the press tells you is cool. The charlatans owe
> a heavy debt to guitar bands like Cream (Eric Clapton, Ginger Evans & someone
> else).
right since i mentioned the 1960s band cream i have one comment i hope
that remark above - about opening my mind beyond what the press tells you
is cool - was not directed at me. since if it was that was quite rude
becasue i do not like half the bands coming out of the uk these days. if
i listened to the press i'd be buying up menswear (which unfortunately
the charlatans really like and respect i know that for a fact), bis,
nancy boy, etc. fortunately for myself i do have an independent mind and
that is why i like bands like the longpigs, seefeel, loops, 60ft dolls,
gorky's zygotic mynci, the pale saints, mbv, and spiritualized. bands
that rarely get the press they deserve. as for liking bands dubbed by the press as "where it is
at" i only like 2 of them - the bluetons and super furry animals. oops
make that 3 i like dubstar as well. so i do have a mind of my own and i
was usuing it when i said i do not like the band cream of the 1960s. the
same way you were using it when you said you like that particular band.
after all we are all allowed to have our own opinions aren't we. it was
people who slagged off others opinions is the reson i got off other lists
from some of my favourite bands (like the paul weller list, pulp list,
and suede list). it would be really nice if this list could be thought
of as one of the best that discussed music, the band, their influences,
ect without any personal stabs - like the drone on
list(spiritualized/spaecman3/ride/etc) and the smiths/morriessey list.
right now if that was not directed at me at least i got that off my
chest. and i will appologize if i misread your comments and took them
too personally. so before you send me a nasty "flame" you have my
appology if i am wrong - he i'll admit my mistakes so that has to count
for something right?
deborah
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:57:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: wise words
On Wed, 29 May 1996 JLOWE@GC1.GEORCOLL.ON.CA wrote:
> 1) Can we stop talking about 2-Unlimited and Cream?
> 2) The 60's (not 70's) rock band Cream were very good...you should open
> your mind beyond what the press tells you is cool. The charlatans owe
> a heavy debt to guitar bands like Cream (Eric Clapton, Ginger Evans & someone
> else).
oh yeah i forgot to ad that they also owne dance music (well certain
members of the band do anyway) trust me on this.
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:18:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: JLOWE@GC1.GEORCOLL.ON.CA
Subject: Re: wise words
Hi, Deborah.
Sorry if my "open your mind" comment seemed a little snarky...my alergies are
acting up today...putting me in a rather foul mood!
Anyway, I do hope that you give Cream (the 60's version) a second chance. While
I wouldn't call myself a fan, the guitar work on many of their songs pretty much
revoloutionized rock, and had a heavy influence on early-to-mid 70's Rolling
Stones material which, of course, is a major influence on the Charlatans.
Also, if you're a fan of the Bluetones, you might enjoy some of Cream's lighter
stuff; it has that same, mellow Byrds type sound that the Bluetones do so well.
Cheers!
jim
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:35:30 -0400
From: Sproston Green <jrobin@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
At 07:19 PM 5/29/96 +0300, you wrote:
>
>On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
>
>> I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
>> is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
>> brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
>
>Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
i hate to admit it but i'm keen on the skinhead oconnor tune. 'adnan' and
'time for livin' are tops though. now did all the artists record on the same
day or did they all record their cuts in one day?
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:14:37 +0100 (BST)
From: "SC. Barrie" <sb4894@bristol.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: wise words
> 1) Can we stop talking about 2-Unlimited and Cream?
> 2) The 60's (not 70's) rock band Cream were very good...you should open
> your mind beyond what the press tells you is cool. The charlatans owe
> a heavy debt to guitar bands like Cream (Eric Clapton, Ginger Evans & someone
> else).
>
> jim
Who said we were talking about the rock band Cream? I actually like
them. I was slagging off people who use this mailing list to discuss, I
think, the club "Cream" in Liverpool. What the hell does that have to do
with the Charlies? Tim may indeed possess some dance music, but I couldn't
give a flying fuck. Also, what does living in Moss Side or Toxteth, etc,
have to do with music preferences?
Scott.
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Reichert <dreicher@mustang.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: wise words
At 09:39 AM 5/29/96 -0400, you wrote:
>1) Can we stop talking about 2-Unlimited and Cream?
>2) The 60's (not 70's) rock band Cream were very good...you should open
>your mind beyond what the press tells you is cool. The charlatans owe
>a heavy debt to guitar bands like Cream (Eric Clapton, Ginger Evans, Baker,
not Evans, Baker!
& someone
>else). Jack Bruce. (fucking figures, everyone always forgets the bass
player. Martin Blunt is my hero! Can you tell that I'm a bass player too?)
>
>jim
DAVE
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:54:11 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: You guys rock.
Wow,
What a fun mailing list this is. Thanks to everyone who bombarded me with
so much Charlies info. Because I live in Northern Canada, it's so hard to
find any decent cd's. So, on all of your advice, I am getting "Between
10th & 11th" sent up to me by a friend England. Also, because I'm going
crazy living in the nearly isolated Northern Canadian Wilderness, my best
friend and I are moving to England in October. Maybe that way I can
actually see the Charlies perform. I know, it's a bit sad to move to a
different country just because you like the music, but I'm just that kind
of girl. Since my friend and I know next to nobody there, and have no idea
where the fun places are to go, all suggestions/invitations are welcome!
We're very fun girls, you know. Anyways, keep the Charlies info coming in.
I can't get enough.
Jen
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:16:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: You guys rock.
jen, no are you insane having between 10th and 11ths ent to you from
england. you will have to pay far too much money. like around $35 - $40
with the exchange rate. it will cost about 15pounds and figure in a 2.14
exchange rate (at least that is what it was when i changed money on the
weekend) plust postage of about 5pounds (i had a cd sent to me and that
was what my friend paid). any record shop (ie sams or sunrise even - i'm
sure they are in northern canada) will have it for under $25. plus i
often see it at used record shops.
and if you want information on things to do in england write to the
british tourist authority in toronto. it is on avenue road. get them to
send you a "central london nightlife guide"
regards,
deb
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:45:29 BST
From: James Wilson <jow101@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: wise words
> right now if that was not directed at me at least i got that off my
> chest. and i will appologize if i misread your comments and took them
> too personally. so before you send me a nasty "flame" you have my
> appology if i am wrong - he i'll admit my mistakes so that has to count
> for something right?
>
> deborah
deborah darling,
calm down. take it easy. cadbury's caramel and all that (english tv joke,
for those of you in
canada & elsewhere) live life and love the charlatans.
luv willyxxx
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:48:42 BST
From: James Wilson <jow101@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Subject: more questions.
> Sorry to say this but really you are all talking a load of crap of late.
>
> Tim Burgess is a babe how dare anyone slag him off.
>
> Anyway nowt to do with the Charlies.... but has anyone on read Ecstasy by
> Irvine Welsh?
>
> Our Kid.
dear our kid,
i haven't rad Ecstacy, is it good???? that is the first question. second
is......did i see that are in
Luton. bloody hell, that's where i come from.....only at York for uni.
luv willyxxx
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ujwal J Pyati <upyatu00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
Subject: Re: smart music tastes
Me living in the US of A, I don't have many opportunities to see
the Charlies in concert. How are they? I would imagine them to be pretty
awesome, and would welcome any guesses on when they'll be coming to
Southern California, preferably San Diego. Someone has my "Up to Our
Hips"CD and it's pissing me off...
-Ujwal Pyati
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:17:16 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos <cmondra@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Viva CREAM
John Ball wrote:
> I think that buy making music a dicotomy you fail to realize the importance
> of our beloved charlie's. The whole concept behind the charletans, ride and
> the roses is the idea that house and the charlies are separate shows you
> lack of depth. Listen to feel flows (Jesus hairdo) it screams HOUSE of the
> deepest persuation. Is it coincidence that it was the opening song for the
> live show? I'm talkin off the wax, it brought the crowd up to the level they
> wanted and then they were there.....AHHHH.... but does that detract from the
> hundereds of times I have sunk to a bass heavy groove in some warehouse in
> god knows where? No. I would no sooner give one for the other. To limit
> yourself to only indie or only white lable is to reduce your potential for
> enlightenment....
>
> 2 4 2>
YES YES YES!!! Amen to the above words! I dj at an indie club and just
last night I played Jesus Hairdo for all the smart people to dance to.
(I was wearing my tiny Charlatans t-shirt as well) Speaking of Feel
Flows, that was one of my favorite tracks as soon as I bought Up to
Our Hips- oh that groove...reminds me of San Francisco...
Cassandra
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:29:36 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos <cmondra@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
Mikko Paila wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
>
> > I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
> > is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
> > brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
>
> Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
is rather grooving....
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:16:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
On Wed, 29 May 1996, Cassandra Frankos wrote:
> Mikko Paila wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
> >
> > > I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
> > > is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
> > > brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
> >
> > Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
>
> And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
> is rather grooving....
OKAY WELL MY vote is for the manics "raindrops keep falling on my head"
the smokin' mojo filter's "come together" and suede's "shipbuilding"
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 03:22:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: tecwritr@wichita.fn.net (John Ball)
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
>On Wed, 29 May 1996, Cassandra Frankos wrote:
>
>> Mikko Paila wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
>> > > is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
>> > > brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
>> >
>> > Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
>>
>> And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
>> is rather grooving....
>>
>OKAY WELL MY vote is for the manics "raindrops keep falling on my head"
>the smokin' mojo filter's "come together" and suede's "shipbuilding"
JASON Ball wrote;
Yeah I have to give propers to Mikko Paila, you got the savior faire down my
friend I also gravitate toward massive attack. Heard they went off at
glastonbury last year. 13 hours? and i thought the 10 hour orb set at
woodstock was "massive"!!! I have to say that lucky falls short of high and
dry" and is not even in the same legue as "just" which just happens to be
haunting me in about a hundered different ways of late. I have been
diaganosted with the bends and it's medicine that is good and good for you.
but I know this is the charlies thing so i cant even be bothered with these
other brit pop bands although I do love to stir it up, why limit yourself?
2 4 2 fookin weirdo>
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 12:01:26 EET
From: "SAARA VaeKEVae" <SVAKEVA@elahti.ekol.fi>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
On Wed, 29 May 1996, Cassandra Frankos wrote:
>> Mikko Paila wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
>>>> is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
>>>> brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
>>>
>>> Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
>>
>> And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
>> is rather grooving....
>
> OKAY WELL MY vote is for the manics "raindrops keep falling on my head"
> the smokin' mojo filter's "come together" and suede's "shipbuilding"
SUEDE'S SHIPBUILDING IS THE BEST TRACK NO DOUBT!
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 11:44:10 +0100
From: Dale Winton <ee0u5064@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: R&R
O.k. Everyone in the middle of exams?
Right, I think it's time to go to the Que Club in B'ham.
It's still raining up north, a bit like down south I suppose. Anyway, it's
better than having tidal waves breaking all over the place.
RECOMENDED ALBUM OF THE WEEK:
TRADE VOLUME 2. A 3cd/tape mix from "record selectors", 'Tall' Paul Newman,
Ian M and Alan Thomson.
CURRENT FAVE SINGLE:
THE BOX by ORBITAL/PEARLS GIRL and BORN SLIPPY by UNDERWORLD
WATCH OUT FOR:
VICIOUS CIRCLES by POLTERGEIST. Released on Manifesto on 24th Jun,
U by DJ SCOTT on UMD records.
Sai Ram
Goodbye
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 20:38:14 +1000 (EST)
From: kate mccarthy <katemc@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: life is sweet
okay so here in australia there's a microsoft ad. with the intro to
chem. bros' 'life is sweet' as the soundtrack. eerie! so i presume
everyone else has it overseas too? and there's another ad. here with a
portishead s'track which i think is for cars or photocopiers or somethink.
just thought you might be interested...
and thanks to the discussions on this list about '10th and 11th' i
listened to it again today for the first time in years. what a champion
effort! i can't believe i neglected it for so long. how cool are 'page
one' and 'tremelo song'! and then i figured what the hey and put on 'jesus
hairdo' and man, is that song rockin'! can't believe i've just been
rotating 'some friendly', 'over rising' and 'me. in time' for so long! what
a mental.
okay that's all. kate.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 11:31:26 BST
From: James Wilson <jow101@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Viva CREAM
> > 2 4 2>
> YES YES YES!!! Amen to the above words! I dj at an indie club and just
> last night I played Jesus Hairdo for all the smart people to dance to.
> (I was wearing my tiny Charlatans t-shirt as well) Speaking of Feel
> Flows, that was one of my favorite tracks as soon as I bought Up to
> Our Hips- oh that groove...reminds me of San Francisco...
>
> Cassandra
i'm sure you look lovely in your tiny Charlatans t-shirt. .
i used to dj at an indie club back home (bedfordshire), and everyone loved the charlies.
i especially like madchester....but that's coz that's the music i grew up on.
seeya willyxxx
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:04:56 +0100 (BST)
From: "H.Ismail" <hi195@soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Birthday Greetings
Tim's 29 today.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TIM!!!!!!
I think it's worth celebrating.
Han
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 15:09:20 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly <ecubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: R&R
Sort it out, this is a Charlatan's mailing list, not a forum for you to
advertise rather poor dance clubs.
Long live the Charlies
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 15:08:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly <ecubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
On Wed, 29 May 1996, Cassandra Frankos wrote:
> Mikko Paila wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
> >
> > > I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
> > > is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
> > > brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
> >
> > Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
>
> And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
> is rather grooving....
Sorry but i thought that the Stereo Mcs tune was a bit poor, the
Terrorvision one was good though
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:13:47 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Mikko Paila <milkki@walrus.megabaud.fi>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
On Wed, 29 May 1996, Sproston Green wrote:
> 'time for livin' are tops though. now did all the artists record on the same
> day or did they all record their cuts in one day?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I remember that the whole album was put
together in one week, so... Most songs were recorded "live". I just read
the inlet of the CD and it says that all songs were recorded on the same
day in different locations. That one week thing was that they started on
monday and CD was available after that week. (I think)
Aaaah, what? Milkki.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:25:38 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Mikko Paila <milkki@walrus.megabaud.fi>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
On Wed, 29 May 1996, Cassandra Frankos wrote:
> > > I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
> > > is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
> > > brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
> >
> > Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
>
> And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
> is rather grooving....
I think Stereo MC piece is a bit dull compared to their first LP.
Milkki.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:35:19 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Mikko Paila <milkki@walrus.megabaud.fi>
Subject: Quotes?
Would it be possible for you people to quote just the bit you are
answering/commenting? It's fustrating to read 1 1/2 pages of quote and
then half line commenting it. The other thing is that I have 1 finmk/MB
charge in unix...
Love, milkki.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:03:38 +0100 (BST)
From: "H.Ismail" <hi195@soton.ac.uk>
Subject: cummings??
I'm having this weird feeling that my last message on this subject didn't get
through. Sorry if I'm repeating myself!!
Someone asked about the line "Not even the rain has such small hands"
I just wanted to point out that it comes from the last line of a fantastic poem
by e.e.cummings who Tim (and me!!) really loves. The last two lines are:
"The voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses
Nobody not even the rain has such small hands"
If anyone wants me to post the whole poem let me know.
Han
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 12:12:30 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY <wolsmr@hg.uleth.ca>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
will someone please tell me how to get off this list exactly. i emailed erik's
brother b4 and that was supposed to do it but i'm still on the list and it's
been two weeks.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:25:44 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos <cmondra@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
> On Wed, 29 May 1996, Cassandra Frankos wrote:
>
> > Mikko Paila wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 29 May 1996, John Ball wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have also givin that disc some spinnin but I would argue that the best cut
> > > > is portisheads "morning air" an increadiblely moving piece of work that
> > > > brings a tear to this Pisces' eye. But I'm a Dummy like that....
> > >
> > > Yeah, yeah, but let's not forget Massive attack from the same album.
> >
> > And Lucky by Radiohead is pretty brilliant, and the Stereo MCs track
> > is rather grooving....
> >
> OKAY WELL MY vote is for the manics "raindrops keep falling on my head"
> the smokin' mojo filter's "come together" and suede's "shipbuilding"
>
> SUEDE'S SHIPBUILDING IS THE BEST TRACK NO DOUBT!
Okay, someone told me that Elvis Costello did "Shipbuilding" and it
was originally some old war song...I have no idea, I plead ignorance,
I know this isn't charlatans related, but does anyone know?
Cassandra
-------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:11:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
> Okay, someone told me that Elvis Costello did "Shipbuilding" and it
> was originally some old war song...I have no idea, I plead ignorance,
> I know this isn't charlatans related, but does anyone know?
>
> Cassandra
i don't know about it being an old way song, could be. but, yes it is a
cover of costello.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:13:25 GMT+1000
From: "Nicole" <s565798@iplabs.ins.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Happy Birthday Tim
hey
have just reclaimed my "Between 10th and 11th" CD and my fave as of
now is "Weirdo" -> it's pretty innovative in comparison to their songs
on the latest CD... but really i think most of their music is ace.
i'm also a recent fan -> as of last November, and have since
bought all the CDs I can find over here. and will now be buying
the some friendly video ASAP
who writes most of the lyrics? they seem obscure to me, and I have
found that most of my theories on the meanings of the songs on 'the
charlatans" were off the mark (after reading Eirik's website's
interview with Tim about the CD).
i know it's a lowly topic to bring up, but i haven't read much about
tim and sarah cracknell (st etienne) -> how long did they go out for?
has everyone seen the sweet video clip they did together for a st
etienne song (the name escapes me)?
Cheers
Nicole
-----------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:17:20 GMT+1000
From: "Nicole" <s565798@iplabs.ins.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Charlatans info (or lack thereof)
>Actullay dave I had the good fortune to meet and talk with Tim (the
>singer) at a show in Columbia MO.
hey john!
so what is timmy like? please give us an identikit...
Cheers
Nicole
---------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 06:07:59 -0400
From: Anne Wong <anne.wong@utoronto.ca>
Subject: canadian
hey guys this is conny
just wondering if anybody knows of an upcoming tour especially to canada
(i missed the last one) then people like me and jen howe (just how north
are you?!) can see them too.
i haven't been on for awhile so i was just wondering if shane and kari
are still taking songs for the top 5 list.
anyways, are there any cheap but cool charlatans t-shirt mail orders
that anybody knows of that are reliable and quick?
i haven't seen any in toronto.
xxx
conny
i really like teenage fanclub, radiohead, blur, mbv, lush, a bunch of smaller
canadian groups (are there any famous in the uk?), and a whole mix ranging
from rancid to the monkees(!)
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 21:59:02 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: Re: canadian
That would be great if they came to Canada sometime before October (but I
doubt it). I would be willing to drive for 4 days to see them.
Now a question for all you Brits; how often do they play over there, are
the venues really big (I suppose that's a relative term), and are people
really obnoxious at gigs? I don't mind dancing and pogo-ing, but I hate
crowd surfers. It's worse when you're 6'2, because then you're pretty much
guaranteed to get at least a dozen blows to the head by somebody's boots.
Oh, and Conny, I live in Fort McMurray, which is about 4.5 hours north of
Edmonton. It's not /that/ north, I suppose, but it sure seems like it when
you're that far away from the closest city. But the huskies sure do like
the spring. They don't have to work as hard to get to our igloo :)
Jen
--------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 10:09:34 PDT
From: Simon Amor <j9556622@wlv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Viva CREAM
On Thu, 30 May 1996 11:31:26 BST James Wilson wrote:
> > > 2 4 2>
> > YES YES YES!!! Amen to the above words! I dj at an indie club and just
> > last night I played Jesus Hairdo for all the smart people to dance to.
> > (I was wearing my tiny Charlatans t-shirt as well) Speaking of Feel
> > Flows, that was one of my favorite tracks as soon as I bought Up to
> > Our Hips- oh that groove...reminds me of San Francisco...
> >
> > Cassandra
>
> i'm sure you look lovely in your tiny Charlatans t-shirt. .
> i used to dj at an indie club back home (bedfordshire), and everyone loved the charlies.
> i especially like madchester....but that's coz that's the music i grew up on.
>
> seeya willyxxx
If you like your Madchester then get down to Hallelujah at Leeds Uni every other week until the end of
June, they play the Charlies, Roses, Inspirals, you name it, if its Madchester they'll play it.
See you all there!
Simon
-----------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:39:49 +0200
From: Eirik Gudmundsen <eirikg@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: canadian
> hey guys this is conny
>
> just wondering if anybody knows of an upcoming tour
> especially to canada (i missed the last one)
> then people like me and jen howe (just how north are you?!)
> can see them too.
Hi conny. There's little going on around the Charlatans right now, but one
date has been announced (18th of August in Chelmsford as mentioned earlier).
But that may mean that something will happen this spring, so you never know!
> anyways, are there any cheap but cool charlatans t-shirt mail orders
> that anybody knows of that are reliable and quick?
> i haven't seen any in toronto.
If you have access to the www, here's an excellent link to a T-shirt mail
order.
http://www.rise.co.uk/underworld/
They've got a lot of T-shirts, and three different Charlatans T-shirts. Check
it out...
> i really like teenage fanclub, radiohead, blur, mbv, lush, a
yeah, they're all great!
Cheers,
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:02:52 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath" <tem2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: R&R
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON , TAKE YOUR MUSIC AND
SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE.
THANKYOU.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:09:39 +0100 (BST)
From: "SC. Barrie" <sb4894@bristol.ac.uk>
Subject: Some friendly video
Dear non-UK people,
Consider yourselves lucky! Although the Charlatans might play the UK more
than Canada, at least you can get a Some Friendly video. I think it was
only released in the US and Canada. It is also on NTSC format, so I can't
even copy it! The only thing over here is one live performance on "Butt
Naked" which I have (between 10th and 11th album mainly) and a rendition
of an early song on an indie compilation video.
I know what everyone means about discovering what the Charlatans lyrics
mean. They seem to be far more obscure than for most bands. My favourite
is "You're furious, I'm glorious".
Cheers!
Scott
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 06:45:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Derek Fong <derek_f@alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: Re: canadian
Jen,
The Charlatans have come to Montreal several times in the past,
including last October shortly after they released their latest album.
They totally ROCKED. My friends told me they met Tim at the Between 10th
& 11th tour a few years back when they came to Montreal, and Tim was the
nicest guy in the world. He even gave them a bag of Revels!
There was no crowd-surfing, just a lot of dancing at last
October's gig at Club Soda (a smallish club here in Montreal where they
played). A few obnoxious people, but no moshing (thank God).
Anyway, I suspect they'll be back in Montreal once their new
album is released...whenever that is! Unfortunately, it's more than a
four hour drive from Alberta... :-)
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:26:49 BST
From: The Soul Saver <MBCX5RMC@mh2.mcc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: You guys rock.
The first three charlies albums have been reissued at mid price so
expect to pay no more than stlg7 or stlg8 for it.
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:08:17 GMT0BST
From: "Jamie" <James.Ellis@newcastle.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: cummings??
Send us a poem will ya mate?
Cheers!
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:34:08 +0100 (BST)
From: Chris <ct102@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Some friendly video
> even copy it! The only thing over here is one live performance on "Butt
> Naked" which I have (between 10th and 11th album mainly) and a rendition
> of an early song on an indie compilation video.
Surely you mean mostly Up To Our Hips, I dont remember off hand but I
think the only songs played from Between 10th and 11th were Weirdo and
No-one not even the rain.
Chris
PS (One of my friends is in the front row)
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 07:25:18 -0500
From: Shane and Kari Winn <kwinn@niu.edu>
Subject: Re: canadian
>Anne Wong wrote:
>
> i haven't been on for awhile so i was just wondering if shane and kari
> are still taking songs for the top 5 list.
Yes, I'm still working on it...however, I haven't gotten that many
responses. Tell ya' what, I'll give it until Sunday June 2 and then
I'll post the results on Monday June 3.
Keep on keepin' on,
Kari
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 14:23:13 +0100 (BST)
From: "H.Ismail" <hi195@soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: cummings??
At the risk of breaking every copyright law in existence, here's the poem:
Somewhere I have never travelled, gladly beyond
any experience, your eyes have their silence:
in your most frail gesture are things which enclose me,
or which I cannot touch because they are too near.
Your slightest look easily will unclose me
though I have closed myself as fingers,
you open always petal by petal myself as Spring opens
(touching skilfully, mysteriously) her first rose
or if your wish be to close me, I and
my life will shut very beautifully, suddenly,
as when the heart of this flower imagines
the snow carefully everywhere descending;
nothing which we are to perceive in this world equals
the power of your intense fragility:whose texture
compels me with the colour of its countries,
rendering death and forever with each breathing.
(I do not know what it is about you that closes
and opens; only something in me understands
the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses)
nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands.
Wow, it blows me away every time.
Enjoy.
Han
---------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Benda <bendaj@belnet.bellevue.k12.wa.us>
Subject: brands
Sorry to chat everyone up about this but it kind of has to do with music
and the like:
What's cooler: ADIDAS, FILA, or PUMA if you want to be the hot kid?
We certainly know that NIKE sucks so we can't include those boys.
Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course there's MR.
FILA, Damon Blur, with his gold rap bracelets and the like...
Some of those pics in the boolet for THE CHARLATANS UK ("first Shag" if
you got the joke) have Tim sporting the "NEW YORK SPORT" high collar wind
breaker and he looks pretty pretty in it. Rob's always sporting adidas
jackets and scoots, whereas Tim kicks it in the Pumas.
Opinions?.........
as always, jason
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 09:58:54 EST5EDT
From: "jim lowe" <JLOWE@central.georcoll.on.ca>
Subject: Re: brands
> Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
I was wearing those before Liam!
They are called Adidas "Gazelles" here in Canada.
jim
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:32:57 +0100
From: Richard <pp0u302d@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
In message Fri, 31 May 1996 09:58:54 EST5EDT,
jim lowe <JLOWE@central.georcoll.on.ca> writes:
>> Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
>
> I was wearing those before Liam!
>
> They are called Adidas "Gazelles" here in Canada.
>
> jim
Yeah... called "Gazelles"over here too. We were all wearing them when we
were ten. (i.e. 1985),but so what?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:03:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Reichert <dreicher@mustang.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Some friendly video
> I know what everyone means about discovering what the Charlatans lyrics
>mean. They seem to be far more obscure than for most bands. My favourite
>is "You're furious, I'm glorious".
I once read an interview with Tim Burgess. On the subject on his lyrics he
said that they mean something different to him everytime he looks at them.
Thus I think we should do the same.
Cheers
DAVE
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:08:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: brands
> > Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
>
> I was wearing those before Liam!
exactly, anyone remember when our parents use to force us to wear pumas
since they were the cheap $9.99 shoes to school. parents could nto give
them away. and the only cool shoe back then was converse. oh god or am i
teh only one old enough to remember that. now but a few bands in them,
everyone from the beastie boys to the charlatans and oasis and they are
trendy. it is now an excuse for a shoe company to slap a 89.99 price tag
on them and make a fortune. okay i'm probably wrong on teh price but
since i don't own any i wouldn't know. i just remember seeing them about
a year ago and puma's were $89.99 adn adddas were not far off hte mark.
but then again it is the ame with everything these days. my biggest
annoyance being "vintage clothing stores". everything is outrageously
priced when the same things can be bought at the good will and salvation
army for next to nothing. but, now everyone wants to look like they are
in pulp.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 17:16:34 +0100
From: Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
At 06:53 31/05/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Sorry to chat everyone up about this but it kind of has to do with music
>and the like:
>
>What's cooler: ADIDAS, FILA, or PUMA if you want to be the hot kid?
>
>We certainly know that NIKE sucks so we can't include those boys.
>
>Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course there's MR.
>FILA, Damon Blur, with his gold rap bracelets and the like...
>
>Some of those pics in the boolet for THE CHARLATANS UK ("first Shag" if
>you got the joke) have Tim sporting the "NEW YORK SPORT" high collar wind
>breaker and he looks pretty pretty in it. Rob's always sporting adidas
>jackets and scoots, whereas Tim kicks it in the Pumas.
>
>Opinions?.........
>
>as always, jason
I know the hot kid, his name is Pete McCallum (ceepm@cee.hw.ac.uk) so for
any fashion tips contact him.
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 17:14:09 +0100
From: Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
At 15:32 31/05/96 +0100, you wrote:
>In message Fri, 31 May 1996 09:58:54 EST5EDT,
> jim lowe <JLOWE@central.georcoll.on.ca> writes:
>
>>
>>> Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
>>
>> I was wearing those before Liam!
>>
>> They are called Adidas "Gazelles" here in Canada.
>>
>> jim
>>
> Yeah... called "Gazelles"over here too. We were all wearing them when we
>were ten. (i.e. 1985),but so what?
What about Dunlop green flash? The ultimate in canvas footwear, as sported
by Tim's next door neighbour's window cleaner.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 18:01:51 +0100
From: Richard <pp0u302d@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
In message Fri, 31 May 1996 17:14:09 +0100,
Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk> writes:
> At 15:32 31/05/96 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>In message Fri, 31 May 1996 09:58:54 EST5EDT,
>> jim lowe <JLOWE@central.georcoll.on.ca> writes:
>>>
>>>> Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
>>>
>>> I was wearing those before Liam!
>>>
>>> They are called Adidas "Gazelles" here in Canada.
>>>
>>> jim
>>>
>>>
>> Yeah... called "Gazelles"over here too. We were all wearing them when
>> we were ten. (i.e. 1985),but so what?
>>
>> What about Dunlop green flash? The ultimate in canvas footwear, as
>> sported
> by Tim's next door neighbour's window cleaner.
Really!!!! Must get a pair. How much are they? #50/#60/#70? Where
can I get them? Schuh,JJB,JD sports where? Or are they just "#2.50 no #1.50
bargain price to you sir your a geezer Come on as modelled my Tim's mates
best friends windowcleaner's grandad's dad. Well till he died of
embarrassment bargain price though can't be beaten. " down the east end!
to you mate your
----------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 19:44:39 +0100
From: Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
At 18:01 31/05/96 +0100, you wrote:
>In message Fri, 31 May 1996 17:14:09 +0100,
> Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> At 15:32 31/05/96 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>>In message Fri, 31 May 1996 09:58:54 EST5EDT,
>>> jim lowe <JLOWE@central.georcoll.on.ca> writes:
>>>
>>>>> Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
>>>>
>>>> I was wearing those before Liam!
>>>>
>>>> They are called Adidas "Gazelles" here in Canada.
>>>>
>>>> jim
>>>>
>>> Yeah... called "Gazelles"over here too. We were all wearing them when
>>> we were ten. (i.e. 1985),but so what?
>>>
>>> What about Dunlop green flash? The ultimate in canvas footwear, as
>>> sported
>> by Tim's next door neighbour's window cleaner.
>> Really!!!! Must get a pair. How much are they? #50/#60/#70? Where
>can I get them? Schuh,JJB,JD sports where? Or are they just "#2.50 no #1.50
>bargain price to you sir your a geezer Come on as modelled my Tim's mates
>best friends windowcleaner's grandad's dad. Well till he died of
>embarrassment bargain price though can't be beaten. " down the east end!
>
>to you mate your
East End? What you on about our kid. Get them down the docks in Liverpool,
they do though don't they though. Me mates Te' and Ba' could get yer a pair.
I saw Jimmy Corkhill with a pair this avo' their all murderin' scum them
Corkhills wanna be locked up the lorra them, leavin' our Mike out there on
'is own.
Go Robbie, go Robbie go
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 00:09:31 -0700
From: Mikko Paila <milkki@megabaud.fi>
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Tim
Nicole wrote:
> has everyone seen the sweet video clip they did together for a st
> etienne song (the name escapes me)?
The name of the song is "I Was Born on Christmas Day". I have seen the video
and I love it. I also have the 12" single and it's just great.
(Other songs aren't so good...)
milkki
---------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:14:29 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos <cmondra@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: More Jesus Hairdo and Dust Brothers
Deborah wrote:
> i don't know about it being an old way song, could be. but, yes it is a
> cover of costello.
thanks for the response :>
cassandra
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:29:15 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos <cmondra@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: canadian
> anyways, are there any cheap but cool charlatans t-shirt mail orders
> that anybody knows of that are reliable and quick?
> i haven't seen any in toronto.
There is a very cool website that has t-shirts for some of the bands
you listed at the end of email. I don't remember if they had a
Charlatans t-shirts(I think they did). The site was called Underworld
t-shirts, they're out of the UK(big suprise). I've ordered from them
and they're not expensive.
Cassandra
---------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 96 17:26:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: jba076@airmail.net (josh barnett)
Subject: Re: brands
>Some of those pics in the boolet for THE CHARLATANS UK ("first Shag" if
>you got the joke) have Tim sporting the "NEW YORK SPORT" high collar wind
>breaker and he looks pretty pretty in it. Rob's always sporting adidas
>jackets and scoots, whereas Tim kicks it in the Pumas.
>
>Opinions?.........
>
>as always, jason
adidas and puma are respectable soccer shoes. i prefer adidas myself. fila
just suck. they have some highly unatractive shoes here in the states. plus,
when fila came out the big fad was Finally I Left Adidas.
josh
---------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:29:37 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos <cmondra@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Viva CREAM
> If you like your Madchester then get down to Hallelujah at Leeds Uni every other week until the end of
> June, they play the Charlies, Roses, Inspirals, you name it, if its Madchester they'll play it.
> See you all there!
>
> Simon
I'm gonna cry(excuse the melodrama). I'm stuck in the states with no
madchester-type dance clubs, except where I spin, but then I'm behind
the tables, not really able to bust out dancing with drunk people
requesting Ride and Gene(hey,are you gonna dance to that?)...
Cassandra
---------------------------------
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 00:33:23 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly <ecubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: canadian
those bands that you were talkinign about are dead famous in the UK
Sorry if the spelling is sh*t, but i have had a few beers and am noit
responsoible for what i've written, espciallly anyuone on the oais
mailing list, sorry for sayting f**k oasis, I wqas just upset at their
ticket prices
Ceers (la la la ) Michael
P.S. please give me respectb for spellijng my name right
-----------------------------------
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 00:39:14 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly <ecubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: happy birthday
Of all the sh*te in Britpop, the charlies are the best, so a big
'round of applause to the charlies and happy birthay to Tim
-----------------------------------
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 00:42:29 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly <ecubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Mark Gordon wrote:
> At 06:53 31/05/96 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Sorry to chat everyone up about this but it kind of has to do with music
> >and the like:
> >
> >What's cooler: ADIDAS, FILA, or PUMA if you want to be the hot kid?
> >
> >We certainly know that NIKE sucks so we can't include those boys.
> >
> >Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course there's MR.
> >FILA, Damon Blur, with his gold rap bracelets and the like...
> >
> >Some of those pics in the boolet for THE CHARLATANS UK ("first Shag" if
> >you got the joke) have Tim sporting the "NEW YORK SPORT" high collar wind
> >breaker and he looks pretty pretty in it. Rob's always sporting adidas
> >jackets and scoots, whereas Tim kicks it in the Pumas.
> >
> >Opinions?.........
> >
> >as always, jason
> >
> >
> >I know the hot kid, his name is Pete McCallum (ceepm@cee.hw.ac.uk) so for
> any fashion tips contact him.
I've got a pair of Nike, and they're dead cool so f off
---------------------------------
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 00:44:23 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly <ecubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
lets face it Take that were better than ocean colour scene and th e fat
ba*tards., Northern Uproar
La la la
Mike
-----------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah <ae94af@badger.ac.brocku.ca>
Subject: Re: brands
On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Mr M P Donnelly wrote:
> lets face it Take that were better than ocean colour scene and th e fat
> ba*tards., Northern Uproar
> La la la
> Mike
hey us old people on the list still really dig ocean colour scene but
i've yet to understand the appeal of northern uproar. but, hey everyone
has their own opinion.
-----------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:59:29 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: Re: brands
What about Airwalks? Don't think I've seen any bands wear them. They're
pretty fun shoes. Okay, they are skater shoes, granted, but they're still
fun. And, the ankles are even padded. Just a nice safety feature. Oh,
and so you know, I don't skate, I just like the shoes :)
Jen
---------------------------------
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 12:06:04 +0100
From: Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
At 12:08 31/05/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> > Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course
>>
>> I was wearing those before Liam!
>>
>exactly, anyone remember when our parents use to force us to wear pumas
>since they were the cheap $9.99 shoes to school. parents could nto give
>them away. and the only cool shoe back then was converse. oh god or am i
>teh only one old enough to remember that. now but a few bands in them,
>everyone from the beastie boys to the charlatans and oasis and they are
>trendy. it is now an excuse for a shoe company to slap a 89.99 price tag
>on them and make a fortune. okay i'm probably wrong on teh price but
>since i don't own any i wouldn't know. i just remember seeing them about
>a year ago and puma's were $89.99 adn adddas were not far off hte mark.
>
>but then again it is the ame with everything these days. my biggest
>annoyance being "vintage clothing stores". everything is outrageously
>priced when the same things can be bought at the good will and salvation
>army for next to nothing. but, now everyone wants to look like they are
>in pulp.
I have a secret fetish for footwear particularly the taste and smell of
worn woman's footwear if you fancy a quick shag just flash me those high
heels.(guys included)
---------------------------------
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 12:07:43 +0100
From: Mark Gordon <ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands
At 06:53 31/05/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Sorry to chat everyone up about this but it kind of has to do with music
>and the like:
>
>What's cooler: ADIDAS, FILA, or PUMA if you want to be the hot kid?
>
>We certainly know that NIKE sucks so we can't include those boys.
>
>Liam Oasis always used to wear the adidas poly and of course there's MR.
>FILA, Damon Blur, with his gold rap bracelets and the like...
>
>Some of those pics in the boolet for THE CHARLATANS UK ("first Shag" if
>you got the joke) have Tim sporting the "NEW YORK SPORT" high collar wind
>breaker and he looks pretty pretty in it. Rob's always sporting adidas
>jackets and scoots, whereas Tim kicks it in the Pumas.
>
>Opinions?.........
>
>as always, jason
Do you realise your second name sounds homosexual? Mr Benda>
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:17:55 BST
From: The Soul Saver <MBCX5RMC@mh2.mcc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: brands and Crashin' In
What about Converse 'One Star'? Loads of people have blue and white
one round here. Myself, to be differnent, have a pair of brown and
green ones.
Have you noticed on the cover of Crashin' In the lads trainers? I
haven't got the cover infront of me but I seem to remember someone is
wearing some 'gazzels' and one of the boys looks like he should be in
the James Taylor Quartet.
Dodgy did an NME frontcover where they all wore brown Vans or Airwark.
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:20:30 BST
From: The Soul Saver <MBCX5RMC@mh2.mcc.ac.uk>
Subject: Levi deals.
Has anyone else noticed pictures of Northern Uproar in your local
Levis shop? It seems a bit of a change of direction after Jamiroquai
and Fluke.
Have the Charlies ever had any clothing deals, Joe Bloggs perhaps :)
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 18:20:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: Re: wise words
> nancy boy, etc. fortunately for myself i do have an independent mind and
> that is why i like bands like the longpigs, seefeel, loops, 60ft dolls,
> gorky's zygotic mynci, the pale saints, mbv, and spiritualized. bands
speaking of spiritualized, how many cd's do they have released?
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 96 01:15:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: jba076@airmail.net (josh barnett)
Subject: Re: wise words
>speaking of spiritualized, how many cd's do they have released?
they have 2 lp's and 10 singles and 1 live disc
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:41:12 +0100
From: Cat <fr0u5004@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Good day
Hello all. Just to say I want to go to CREAM aswell.
Ha.
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:35:07 -0400
From: ShamanBart@aol.com
Subject: Life under the influence of the Charlatans
Since no one really has any news about the Charlatans, I figured I might as
well add something interesting to the mix. If anyone cares to see it, I've
got a short story written by a friend who moved back from Seattle. I was
told it was written after going out on the town right after listening to the
Charlatans latest LP at full volume.
For those interested, please read below, and put on the Charlatans starting
with "Feeling Holy":
A sample of part 1:
"Dirty Laundry" by Jonny Disturbed copyright 1996, Sounds from the Street
If I had a camera (or a rifle) It'd do a much better job of chronicling my
dislike for this prairie state. As I merge onto Lyndale from Hennepin
cutting off another annoying driver in a Mitsubishi wagon, too small to see
and always changing lanes at the appropriate time to cause other cars to
brake like a fucking Fred Flintstone imitation, Neil Young salivates a nicer
sounding tune on a harp in a song on the Cities 97, nicer than his nasally
singing style. Another wave of tobacco arrives without invitation into my
Pontiac. Some University of Minnesota grad with a stupid baseball cap
drives by in a red ford minicar, his white knees almost pressing up to the
ceiling. He eyes the 25 cents Super Soda banner at the 24th and Lyndale SA
and dreams of a Pepsi with no ice..."I'll get more soda than they want me to
get and I'll drink a full one & refill it before I pay for it. Soda. Beef
jerky. Anything with cheese on it. Three-two beer bought after liquor
stores close at 9:00. Bliss.
A tall brunette, faceless under a tangled, unkempt mess of a windblown
hairstyle arrives at the heavy wooden door, carved nobly of British-like
inscription into eight even squares, and covered with eight generations of
bus exhaust, more dirt and grime worthy of Amoco station men's room sinks or
of Iron Range rooftops. Yeah. It's the same scary place I remember. You
have to like living in traffic, living in constant noise: police sirens,
cars pouring it on to beat the light, loud groups of baggy clothes wearin'
nose ring sportin' college students making their way to Muddy Waters for a $2
cup of coffee or a Leine's and a Marlboro at the Leaning Tower of Pizza.
Just now a tall blonde, Nordic-looking lad in a "hail Satan" tee shirt
skipped by on the sidewalk one foot on board, and one foot on his imaginary
place in Hell I'm sure. At the Leaning Tower, the evening I was with John,
Anne (the Sigourney Weaver twin, tall, skinny, red-haired and glamorous even
when plowed) puffing on a marlboro Red, slamming a gin-soaked watered down
cocktail chased with a Grain Belt "Premium" (a beer oxymoron?). This was a
Bukowski scene. John is mickey Rourke. Anne is Faye Dunaway. The two
others at the bar, a fat german with oval shades, Rob, and his bubbly
gal-pal, Rose, with big tits shown off in a cleavage revealing dress, are
their fellow barflies. They all made this night a gem (if sandstone is
precious).
to be continued...upon request.
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:20:55 -0400
From: Rainbow507@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bob's yer Uncle
ATTENTION ALL UK PEOPLE: What does "bob's yer uncle" mean???? I see it on
all the brit magazines and such. so if you know, please respond promptly!!
also , this doesn't have much to do with the charlatans, but i was wondering
if anyone caught the pulp show in toronto at the opera house. i thought it
was amazing and jarvis looked sweet of course, sporting tight orangish-brown
bellbottoms and such... it was well worth the 2 hr. car ride from buffalo.
------Rainbow
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 15:35:11 -0400
From: Sproston Green <jrobin@tiac.net>
Subject: Recent Boots
Ok. Where's all the boots from the tours encompassing
the releases of 'up to our hips' and 'charlatans'? There must be
plenty of opportunity. I mean after the stone roses toured last
year a flood of boots hit the market almost instantly. Can
anyone explain this?
Sproston Green
jrobin@tiac.net
http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/
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