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The Charlatans Digest Volume 02 Issue 22
The Charlatans Digest Mon Sep 16, 1996 Volume 2 : Issue 22
There are 108 messages totalling 1737 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Rush (4)
2. Dublin Gig...
3. Oasis Breakup (4)
4. Who Knows? (2)
5. aaaurgh (or whatever) (4)
6. Pattrik (4)
7. Later With Jools Holland
8. the knife drawer
9. 6@swcp "PAL"
10. new bootleg (4)
11. suede mailing list (3)
12. new bootleg, Gimmie one????
13. Charlatans info!
14. Please let me out (4)
15. Live gigs (2)
16. Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco? (7)
17. Charlatans at Knebworth (3)
18. chelmsford tape (4)
19. U.S. release dates (4)
20. I just wanna say "ThankYou"
21. another S.F. fan (12)
22. New Single (3)
23. Charlies in D.C. (4)
24. one to another
25. chelmsford tape... for non UK fans
26. BAD NEWS (25)
27. Guitar gubbins (4)
28. Charlies in D.C. (fourth try)
29. TFI friday
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 07:02:51 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: RE: Rush
Rush is a perfect example of a band built completely around drums. Even
John Brookes himself sai "You can't build a band purely on rhythm." I've
heard a lot of Rush at work and the drums are just too much. When I hear
some the stuff Reni can do on a three piece it blows my mind. Brookes also
has a similar style. The both of them belong alongside the greats like
Kieth Moon and Bonzo. You can tell how good Reni is by listening to the
Roses with Robbie Maddox. Give Niel Peart a three piece, and we'll see what
happens.
-Cresser
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 08:33:32 PDT
From: Xantha Stringfellow <STRING@BNAMF.BLACKWELL.COM>
Subject: Re: Rush
On Thu, 29 Aug 1996 07:53:57 +0900 Gregory said:
>
>>Xantha
>>p.s. There's this one tennis player from Australia who looks a lot like Tim
>>Burgess.
>
>I hope you don't mean Mark Phillipousos ? (though by saying this I guess I
>am in fact agreeeing with you).
Yes, Mark Phillipousos...that's his name! So, I guess I'm not just imagining
it. What a cutie!! He's actually better-looking than Tim Burgess because
he's got that athletic look. Yummy!
Xantha
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 5:52 EDT
From: Robert_Kenny@vos.stratus.com
Subject: Dublin Gig...
Does anybody know when of (if) the charlatans are playing a gig in Dublin ????
I saw posters advertising it but I did'nt see any dates....
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:45:48 +0100
From: Michael Hutchinson <hutch@paston.co.uk>
Subject: re. Oasis Breakup
We can all hope...
But..
Oasis have not broken up, what I think you are refering to is Liam missing
the date at Chicago due to :
either- laringitis
or - looking for a new house
Liam flew into the US yesterday to rejoin the group.
His Girlfriend, Patsy Kensit, issued a statement that she had not prevented
Liam going on tour. However there are rumours that Liam is getting
phsychiatric help when he comes back from tour!!!
Hutchinson,
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 14:17:33 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: Who Knows?
Can Anyone let me know when the Charlatans new album will be released in the
states?
Also, anyone who can transfer PAL format let me know and we can strike a deal
I've got plenty of Videos from Charlatans-Blur-and Stone Roses Live. All I
need is NTSC format.
Please Help
CamHugeCo aka Andrew Hill...
Thanks
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:32:15 -0700
From: Patrick Treanor <catscan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Who Knows?
CamHugeCo@aol.com wrote:
>
> Can Anyone let me know when the Charlatans new album will be released in the
> states?
>
> Also, anyone who can transfer PAL format let me know and we can strike a deal
> I've got plenty of Videos from Charlatans-Blur-and Stone Roses Live. All I
> need is NTSC format.
> Please Help
> CamHugeCo aka Andrew Hill...
> Thanks
I've got a pal that works for a production company here in Los Angeles
so depending on where you are we could hook up and make a trade.
Let me know...Pattrik
catscan@earthlink.net
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 08:35:37 -0400
From: Stephen Fenn <106102.3351@compuserve.com>
Subject: aaaurgh (or whatever)
Get back in the knife drawer, Sproston!
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 15:13:11 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: Pattrik
OK Pattrik,
Here's the deal I've got two count em' two PAL tapes, and I live in San Jose
CA I'll need to know how long you'll need the tapes, and my offer is your own
personal copy, I'll pay for postage and my two extra tapes... what do you
say? Plus I'll need the original PAL tapes back.
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 15:22:56 -0700
From: 6 <6@swcp.com>
Subject: Re: Pattrik
CamHugeCo@aol.com wrote:
>
> OK Pattrik,
>
> Here's the deal I've got two count em' two PAL tapes, and I live in San Jose
> CA I'll need to know how long you'll need the tapes, and my offer is your own
> personal copy, I'll pay for postage and my two extra tapes... what do you
> say? Plus I'll need the original PAL tapes back.
I live in Mountain View and have a friend who can do PAL to NTSC
conversion.
6@swcp.com
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:26:25 -0400
From: SPROSTON GREEN <SPROSTON_GREEN@wow.com>
Subject: Reply to: aaaurgh (or whatever)
knife drawer ...huh...what?
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Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 07:38:53 +0100
From: Graham Cawsey <gcawsey@private.nethead.co.uk>
Subject: Later With Jools Holland
There is a new CD about to be released by Island records. It is a
compilation called Later With Jools Holland Volume1: Britbeat.
It features performances by;
The Charlatans
Oasis
Paul Weller
Supergrass
Manic Street Preachers
Audioweb
Ash
Pulp
Blur.
It is a 20 track compilation.
Graham...
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Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 15:10:48 +0100
From: Michael Hutchinson <hutch@paston.co.uk>
Subject: re. the knife drawer
Another Radcliffe fan, I see, Stephen!
Hutchinson,
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Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:50:16 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: 6@swcp "PAL"
I work in Mountainview, would you like to set up a deal?
let me know ...
CamHugeCo@aol.com
>I live in Mountain View and have a friend who can do PAL to >NTSC
>conversion.
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Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 21:29:15 -0700
From: Patrick Treanor <catscan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pattrik
CamHugeCo@aol.com wrote:
>
> OK Pattrik,
>
> Here's the deal I've got two count em' two PAL tapes, and I live in San Jose
> CA I'll need to know how long you'll need the tapes, and my offer is your own
> personal copy, I'll pay for postage and my two extra tapes... what do you
> say? Plus I'll need the original PAL tapes back.
If things don't work out with the other guy, just let me know...
pattrik
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:36:43 -0400
From: Stephen Fenn <106102.3351@compuserve.com>
Subject: new bootleg
Hello everyone,
The tape of the charlies live at Chelmsford 17/8/96 is now available,
including one new song "North Country Boy" and all your other favourites
(no "Then" for some reason) So if anyone wants a copy, write soon.
Nobody's asked for copies, but please note that the tapes of Brixton in
1992 and Sheperd's Bush in 1994 are currently unavailable.
Tape of the Boston Arms gig in 1990 coming soon!
Cheers,
James
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 19:40:06 +0100
From: Michael Hutchinson <hutch@paston.co.uk>
Subject: suede mailing list
does anyone know the adress for the suede mailing list?
Hutchinson,
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:12:18 -0400
From: SPROSTON GREEN <SPROSTON_GREEN@wow.com>
Subject: Reply to: new bootleg
i would love copies of any live chgarlies stuff......i have diversion
form4/26/90 on vynil but refuse to play it....i have several stone roses
gigs on cd and 2 primlal scream ones
love james"lazyitis"callaway
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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 09:19:55 PDT
From: Xantha Stringfellow <STRING@BNAMF.BLACKWELL.COM>
Subject: Re: aaaurgh (or whatever)
On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:26:25 -0400 SPROSTON GREEN said:
>knife drawer ...huh...what?
Sproston Green...is that anything like Soylent Green? :)
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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 12:13:37 -0700
From: "Frank D. Brough" <frankb@quiknet.com>
Subject: Re: Pattrik
Please get me off your E-mail list. I am getting tired of receiving all
those E-mail when I have no idea from whom they are comming.
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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:37:48 -0400
From: O2bBritish@aol.com
Subject: Re: Oasis breakup?
Oasis is not Oasis without Liam. . . .he is the voice of Noel's songs. . .
.there is no way in hell that Noel could sing "Live Forever" "Supersonic" or
any other of their older and better songs. . . .Liam's leaving would be the
end of the slow but sure decline of Oasis
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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:46:04 -0400
From: O2bBritish@aol.com
Subject: Re: suede mailing list
the address for the Suede mailing list is: Majordomo@falco.kuci.uci.edu
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:36:54 +0800 (WST)
From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics <kevinj@sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Reply to: aaaurgh (or whatever)
On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Xantha Stringfellow wrote:
> Sproston Green...is that anything like Soylent Green? :)
>
> On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:26:25 -0400 SPROSTON GREEN said:
> >knife drawer ...huh...what?
mmmmm...soylent green
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:04:38 BST
From: sarah clark <sc19@york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: new bootleg
SARAH AGAIN, IS ANYBODY GETTING MY EMAIL?????????
JAMES WITH THE CHELMSFORD BOOTLEG ARE YOU THERE? PLEASE REPLY
THANX SARAH
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:55:54 BST
From: sarah clark <sc19@york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: new bootleg
JAMES IT'S SARAH FROM DOWN THE ROAD (OR NOT AS THE CASE MAY BE)
I DESPERATELY NEED A COPY OF THE CHELMSFORD GIG. I UNFORTUNATELY
MISSED IT SO WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR AGAIN WHAT I IMAGINE WAS SIMILAR TO
THE KNEBWORTH GIG (TOP GIG). TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO DO, SEND A TAPE OR
WHATEVER.
THANX SARAH
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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 15:58:27 +0100
From: dbfreeman@mail.cdc.co.uk (Daniel Freeman)
Subject: Re: new bootleg, Gimmie one????
Can I get hold of a copy of the boot leg as well.
From dbfreeman@cdc.co.uk
Indie Zone Productions
www.avnet.co.uk/alternative/rebirth/index.html
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Wendy M. Stauffer" <wms06352@marauder.millersv.edu>
Subject: Re: Oasis breakup?
you've all been misled!!! I saw Oasis this weekend in Philadelphia! The
show was brilliant (not surprising)!
Liam and Noel were having a good laugh the whole evening and
seemed to be thoroughly enjoying themselves and the crowd.
So the rumors were simply just that, rumors.
long live the boys from Man City!!
wendy
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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 96 11:59:16 PDT
From: Xantha Stringfellow <STRING@BNAMF.BLACKWELL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oasis breakup?
All of this talk of a break up is probably just one more publicity stunt the
brothers have come up with. It's all getting pretty old now. I was interested
in this stuff about a year and a half ago. Oasis are trying too hard with
their videos, so I can't like them anymore anyway.
Xantha
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:38:15 -0400
From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: Re: suede mailing list
>the address for the Suede mailing list is: Majordomo@falco.kuci.uci.edu
there's also another one at the university of washington called the
wildones list. give me a few days and i'll get the right proceedure for
subscribing sent to the list.
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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 12:25:39 +0200
From: Eirik Gudmundsen <eirikg@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Charlatans info!
Inbetween Oasis' fooling around in the US, and Suede's trashin' in the UK,
there are still a few things happening around The Charlatans. They have done a
couple of new interviews after Rob's death. In this month's The Face, Tim
Burgess is on the front cover, and there is a 5-6 page interview with new
picture. The Charlatans are also on the front cover of the latest Melody
Maker, and in both interview you can read how these last weeks have been.
Excellent interviews. And not to miss, the latest issue of 109 which I sendt a
mail about a week ago. I haven't got it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.
And at last, The Charlatans' "One To Another" went straight to number 3 on
the UK single charts this week. They were only topped by Spice Girls'
"Wannabe" (tell me what you want what you really really want) on 1st place,
and Kula Shaker's "Hey Dude"!. A number three single is the best they've ever
done, The Only One I Know was the best before with chart number 9, and The
Charlatans' last single "Just When You're Thinking Things Over" was at number
11 on the same week as Blur's Country House and Oasis' Roll With It.
GOODIE BAG!
Cheers, Eirik
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:51:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: tecwritr@wichita.fn.net (John Ball)
Subject: RE: Rush
Morrishit......Ahhhhh laughed myself sick, that was good. Love to see
mediocre music put where it should be..... Not that she is bad but I think I
(hopefully not we) have heard moroinic about way to many times... but last
night made up a little ground.
Watched those flippin MTV awards off an on hopin to catch some talent....not
much luck the only bands from brit were Oasis and Bush.... but that one
shitty NY cabby who is always real annoying... yeah that one..... he was
doin a spoof of IRonic and busted the line "It's like meeting the girl of
your dreams and finding out shes five" now that was funny. Beck winning male
o the year was also a treat, as well as Bjork winning best choreography.
Smashing pumpkins claiming to want to try industrial and trance that was
more than intreging ....the rest can suck and blow alternatively.
Oh yeah that singer from Sueade he sounds like Geddy. They both need help...
Time for livin by the B boys was on check your head.... and a mutual project
between them and the charletans or a Chem bros vs the dust bros would be
nice. the origanal dust bros were with B boys, the chem bros accidentally
took their name. The B boys having had legal problems in the past didn't
rasie a fuss they offered the Chem bros a compromise. We'll give you the
rights to sample all our material if you change your name. The rest is
proved by the masterpiece "Exit Plant" which has a myriad of samplings, my
favorite is the beginning of the second song....."who is it? B Boys!"
;)~
J
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: cfk@efn.org (Cory Kilcullen)
Subject: RE: Rush
>Morrishit......Ahhhhh laughed myself sick, that was good. Love to see
>mediocre music put where it should be..... Not that she is bad but I think I
>(hopefully not we) have heard moroinic about way to many times... but last
>night made up a little ground.
>
>Watched those flippin MTV awards off an on hopin to catch some talent....not
>much luck the only bands from brit were Oasis and Bush.... but that one
>shitty NY cabby who is always real annoying... yeah that one..... he was
>doin a spoof of IRonic and busted the line "It's like meeting the girl of
>your dreams and finding out shes five" now that was funny. Beck winning male
>o the year was also a treat, as well as Bjork winning best choreography.
>Smashing pumpkins claiming to want to try industrial and trance that was
>more than intreging ....the rest can suck and blow alternatively.
>
>Oh yeah that singer from Sueade he sounds like Geddy. They both need help...
>
>Time for livin by the B boys was on check your head.... and a mutual project
>between them and the charletans or a Chem bros vs the dust bros would be
>nice. the origanal dust bros were with B boys, the chem bros accidentally
>took their name. The B boys having had legal problems in the past didn't
>rasie a fuss they offered the Chem bros a compromise. We'll give you the
>rights to sample all our material if you change your name. The rest is
>proved by the masterpiece "Exit Plant" which has a myriad of samplings, my
>favorite is the beginning of the second song....."who is it? B Boys!"
>
>;)~
>
>J
That is not all true as far as I know. The Beastie boys album Pauls
Boutique was produced by the Dust Brothers. Lets call them the Dust Bros
U.S. for know. Then this these two guys (tom and ed) who had also been
calling themselves by the same name found out they couldnt use the Dust Bros
name due to copyright crap. So opting against The dust Bros U.K. went with
the chemical brothers. Though some of the chemical bros stuff was released
as the dust bros. it was short lived. As far as the Dust bros. actually
being the Beastie boys?? nope, the dust bros (yep, U.S. guys) had just
produced the new Beck album and have their own release coming out soon. I
hope its entitled exit planet chemical.
cory
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:25:42 +0100
From: cf67@dial.pipex.com (Ross Gray)
Subject: Please let me out
Could someone out there please post a message telling me how to get off
this list my computer crashed and I no longer have the original
instructions.
Thanks
Ross
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 13:16:12 -0700
From: "Frank D. Brough" <frankb@quiknet.com>
Subject: Re: Please let me out
Ross Gray wrote:
> Could someone out there please post a message telling me how to get off
> this list my computer crashed and I no longer have the original
> instructions.
>
> Thanks
> Ross
I would like to know also. I am getting tired of all this E-mail.
I don't even know who it is.
Frank
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:43:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cody Moore <codered@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Please let me out
At 07:25 PM 9/6/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Could someone out there please post a message telling me how to get off
>this list my computer crashed and I no longer have the original
>instructions.
>
>Thanks
>Ross
If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
you can send mail to "Majordomo@stud2.misjonshs.no" with the following command
in the body of your email message:
unsubscribe charlatans codered@concentric.net
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 0:48:38 EET
From: Toni Ranta <a941020@myy.helbp.fi>
Subject: Re: Please let me out
If U'll receive those instructions, please send a copy to me too :)
Toni
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:44:49 -0400
From: ShamanBart@aol.com
Subject: Live gigs
I'm somewhat disappointed at the lack of discussion about some of the awesome
live gigs in the UK and more recently in New York--CMJ music fest. Even
though the Charlatans didn't play in all those events, come on, give us some
news.
RE: boots, James, can you give a brief track listing of the Charlatans live
bootleg deal. Also, do you have any live Teenage Fanclub or Ride? Please
advise.
have a trip hop weekend...../\..../\..../\....
shamanbart
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:00:39 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
I've heard that the Charlatans are playing at Slims in San Francisco this
October, is this true, and if so when will it happen?
Thanks
CamHugeCo@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 96 11:49:18 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: RE: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
Is it relly true? I'll be there if it is. Try calling Live 105, they
would probably know
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:04:22 -0400
From: Phoenix959@aol.com
Subject: Charlatans at Knebworth
I saw the Charlatans this year when they played support to Oasis at Knebworth
Park on Sunday 11th August, which was of course their first gig since the
death of Rob. You might have heard a lot of people saying this, but they were
fantastic! Easily the best support band. It shows how something good can come
from everything, even a tragedy, they were obviously determined to go out
there and make themselves noticed - something which the Manic Street
Preachers failed to do.
Good luck to them! If they can keep this up then they might be able to live
up to Tim's claim that they'll be 'the biggest band in the world'!
Cheers, Jon.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:17:07 -0500
From: sbrown@netexpress.net (shane)
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
>I've heard that the Charlatans are playing at Slims in San Francisco this
>October, is this true, and if so when will it happen?
Hmmm... San Francisco...
are ya sure it's not the ORIGINAL charlatans? cause they're FROM san
francisco, if i'm not mistaken...
-shane-
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:02:50 -0400
From: Stephen Fenn <106102.3351@compuserve.com>
Subject: chelmsford tape
Could everyone who has written asking me for this tape give me their
addresses and they will get tapes soon . All tapes £4.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:50:38 -0400
From: "Rick Roubos" <roubos@netinc.ca>
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
I think I read on the list that the mentioned concert was from last year's
tour, just a mistaken date.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 96 16:38:46 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
That's cold man. It probably was from last years' tour. In fact I was at
that show last year. I couldn't believe the Charlatans played such a small
club. When I saw them in '91 they headlined at the Warfield, and Juliana
Hatfield's old band opened for them. I was sad that they played such a small
place, but then again it was so cool to see 'em all up close. It's been a
nice time reminiscing sorry.
-Cresser
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 01:32:22 -0400
From: "Rick Roubos" <roubos@netinc.ca>
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
Cold? I just thought it might cast some light on the dilemma.
We should all be seeing then touring soon anyway, so maybe the date is
correct. I've seen them 5 times (4 times in Toronto and once they came to
my home town in Hamilton for a special one-off gig) and would love to see
them play every night. Their last concert here was absolutely amazing.
The best I've ever seen the band play (including their amazing first tour
with oil projections and slide show).
I'm really getting pumped to hear the new album.
Any new concert/release dates would be appreciated.
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 04:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG <krissy@sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Slims in San Francisco?
I was thinking that the Charlatans played Slim's last October. But, if
the rumor is true, could some one please let me know?
Cheers
Krissy
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 08:58:50 -0400
From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: Re: Live gigs
>RE: boots, James, can you give a brief track listing of the Charlatans live
>bootleg deal. Also, do you have any live Teenage Fanclub or Ride? Please
>advise.
i have a couple of live ride cds/tapes if anyone is interested.
deb
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:12:58 +0000
From: srblack@mail.enterprise.net (Steve Black)
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Knebworth
I too saw the Charlatines at Knebworth and was truly in awe of them.
Anybody who was there who didn't enjoy their truly amazing performance must
have visited the portaloos one too many times. BY the way, did anybody see
the state of the bogs in Reading? Nasty.
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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 22:29:54 -0700
From: Josef Slobodzian <fesoj@earthlink.net>
Subject: U.S. release dates
Hi everyone.
It's great to see so many active Charlatans fans out there. They are
truely a brilliant band!! (as if that needs to be said here:)
So does anybody know any U.S. release dates for the new album?
Also, I was wondering what happened to Ride? I know this is not
necessarily a Charlatans topic, but I was sure someone out there could
let me know. It would be greatly appreciated, they are my second or
third favorite.
- Thank you, Josef.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:36:34 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: I just wanna say "ThankYou"
Thanks for all yer replies on my San Fran Charlatans question.
Mucho Appreciated
Torah!
Andrew/CamHugeCo
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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 22:38:36 -0700
From: twisterella <epham@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: U.S. release dates
Josef Slobodzian wrote:
> Also, I was wondering what happened to Ride? I know this is not
> necessarily a Charlatans topic, but I was sure someone out there could
> let me know. It would be greatly appreciated, they are my second or
> third favorite.
ride split up. but i heard that both mark and andy have or are inthe
process of starting a new band. you can read all about it on aaron's
ride page which is http://weber.u.washington.edu/~fearless/ride.html
it's the best ride page on the net!! buh-bye :)
cheerio,
erin
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 03:32:36 EDT
From: kevin100@juno.com (Kevin Holden)
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
Anyone know out there if the new single is available as an import?
Are they ralley gonna come back to S.F or is this all hype/confusion?
kev H.
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:13:41 +0800
From: Michael Smoult <smoulty@iinet.net.au>
Subject: New Single
Out here is Australia, they have just released the charlatans new single.
If anyone's interested, in Perth I got mine through 78 Records (they also
have a web site).
The single One to Another is fantastic. I was wondering though are the two
B-sides off cuts from their last LP, 'cause they sure sound like it.
Cant wait for the next LP.
Michael.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:39:41 GMT
From: Imran Ali Kazmi <kaz7284m@uel.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Charlatans at Knebworth
i saw them at chelmsford.Truly brilliant
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:37:26 GMT
From: Imran Ali Kazmi <kaz7284m@uel.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: U.S. release dates
sorry i dont have any infomation on ride, thanks for asking
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 20:58:17 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: Re: U.S. release dates
Well, my brother lives in the good ol' UK and said that it should be in the
states soon.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:33:53 +0800 (WST)
From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics <kevinj@sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: New Single
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Michael Smoult wrote:
> Out here is Australia, they have just released the charlatans new single.
> If anyone's interested, in Perth I got mine through 78 Records (they also
> have a web site).
>
> The single One to Another is fantastic. I was wondering though are the two
> B-sides off cuts from their last LP, 'cause they sure sound like it.
>
> Cant wait for the next LP.
My God another Charlatans fan in WA!
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:53:32 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: "Peter D." <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: New Single
Are there any charlatans/ride fans from South Australia here, i wouldn't
mind hearing from you.
kate
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:01:11 BST
From: sarah clark <sc19@york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: chelmsford tape
Please send info about chelmsford tape to:
Sarah Clark
Johanden
Sandy Lane
Stockton - on - Forest
York YO3 9US
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:43:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: DANIEL MCNELIS <GJNQVBB@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Charlies in D.C.
Hello-
Is this list still operating?
I heard a rumor that our boys were playing in Washington, D.C. at the 9:30 Club
around the 28th of September. Any truth to this? It's a 6 hour drive for me
but it won't be the first time I've made it...
dan.
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:10:58 -0400
From: Sproston Green <jrobin@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: Charlies in D.C.
At 12:43 PM 9/11/96 -0400, DANIEL MCNELIS wrote:
>Hello-
>Is this list still operating?
>
>I heard a rumor that our boys were playing in Washington, D.C. at the 9:30 Club
>around the 28th of September. Any truth to this? It's a 6 hour drive for me
>but it won't be the first time I've made it...
>dan.
Me thinks that was last years tour. They're still working on the new album.
Here's the 95 tour schedule...
http://www.ifi.uio.no/~eirikg/109/tours.html
The new single is excellent although #3 is a bit weak creatively.
But i'll still play it mind you.
one to another, sister and a brother.
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 11:03:14 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
Hey fellow S.F./ bay area people,
Does anyone know if the bluetones show tonight, has sold out? Its at
Bottom of the Hill, so they aren't sellling the tickets thru BASS.
_cresser
ps- everyone go see Jupiter Sun on Saturday night at the Disco 2000
(scalliwags) in San Jose. They played popscene a couple weeks ago.
They're incredible they sopund like a mix between Ride,Roses,Charlatans.
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 12:53:42 PDT
From: Xantha Stringfellow <STRING@BNAMF.BLACKWELL.COM>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
Maybe no one knows the answer to this...when will the Bluetones be adding a
few more dates to their N. American tour? I know they are in California now;
I'm up in Oregon. Any ideas when they might be in Portland?
Xantha
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:45:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rahul Krisnaswamy <rahulk@pantheon.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
30 August NME has it that both California shows sold out within a day.
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:44:31 -0800 (PST)
From: XAPUZDER@ccvax.fullerton.edu
Subject: Re: Charlies in D.C.
when can i get one to another in the US?????
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:12:31 -0500 (EST)
From: The Stateside Blue <ibon500@cord.iupui.edu>
Subject: Re: Charlies in D.C.
one to another has been out in the U.S. for about 2 weeks now?
excellent songs.
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:00:39 -0500
From: cpauken@aristotle.net (Christine Pauken)
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
>Maybe no one knows the answer to this...when will the Bluetones be adding a
>few more dates to their N. American tour? I know they are in California now;
>I'm up in Oregon. Any ideas when they might be in Portland?
How about the midwest or texas or memphis? I'm stuck in arkansas. Cheers!
---------------------------------
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:09:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: tecwritr@wichita.fn.net (John Ball)
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
>> Maybe no one knows the answer to this...when will the Bluetones be adding a
>> few more dates to their N. American tour? I know they are in California now;
>> I'm up in Oregon. Any ideas when they might be in Portland?
>
> How about the midwest or texas or memphis? I'm stuck in arkansas. Cheers!
How about Kansas? I'm terribly upset i missed the show in L.A. considering
i was there only two weeks ago. Now i'm stuck in Kansas!! :(
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 23:29:54 EDT
From: devans@ccs.carleton.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: one to another
XAPUZDER@ccvax.fullerton.edu writes:
>> when can i get one to another in the US?????
hmm. . . it is already available, on import of course, in canada. i'm
sure us imort shops would have it by now.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:13:39 -0400
From: Stephen Fenn <106102.3351@compuserve.com>
Subject: chelmsford tape... for non UK fans
Hello everyone... This is for anybody outside the UK who definitely wants
the tape. It will cost me a lot of time and money, so can you please send
me blank tapes instead and I'll make copies. Send to James Fenn, 22 Carson
Road, East Barnet, Herts, EN49EX, UK.
If you can enclose an SAE that will be most appreciated. I've already sent
tapes out to all the UK lot.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:50:19 +0100
From: matthew@sar.dra.hmg.gb (Matthew Hayes)
Subject: Re: chelmsford tape
>> From: Stephen Fenn <106102.3351@compuserve.com>
>> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:02:50 -0400
>> Subject: chelmsford tape
>> To: "INTERNET:charlatans@stud" <charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no>
>>
>> Could everyone who has written asking me for this tape give me their
>> addresses
>> and they will get tapes soon . All tapes #4.
>
> Please send info about chelmsford tape to:
> Sarah Clark
> Johanden
> Sandy Lane
> Stockton - on - Forest
> York YO3 9US
And to
Matt Hayes
5 Eston Ave
Barnards Green
MALVERN
Worcs
WR14 2SR
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:58:03 +0100
From: dbfreeman@mail.cdc.co.uk (Daniel Freeman)
Subject: Re: chelmsford tape
>>> From: Stephen Fenn <106102.3351@compuserve.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:02:50 -0400
>>> Subject: chelmsford tape
>>> To: "INTERNET:charlatans@stud" <charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no>
>>>
>>> Could everyone who has written asking me for this tape give me their
>>> addresses
>>> and they will get tapes soon . All tapes #4.
>>
>> Please send info about chelmsford tape to:
>> Sarah Clark
>> Johanden
>> Sandy Lane
>> Stockton - on - Forest
>> York YO3 9US
>
> And to
>
> Matt Hayes
> 5 Eston Ave
> Barnards Green
> MALVERN
> Worcs
> WR14 2SR
And to
Danny Freeman
9, Wansbury Way
SWANLEY
KENT BR8 8DH
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 07:40:38 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
Well the Bluetones weren't sold out yet, so I went and saw a great show. I was
a little disapointed, in the rhythm section, but the guitar and vocals were
really good. They definitely will not be the next Roses, and do not sound a bit
like Rush.It was a good show, but still nothing compared to the real manc bands
like the roses and charlatans. Was anyone else from this list at the show?
-Cresser.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:49:19 +0100
From: Michael Hutchinson <hutch@paston.co.uk>
Subject: BAD NEWS
I'm 99% sure that OAsis have broken up. They are not going to complete the
US tour. Sad news in my opinion but i'm sure that noel will carry on in some
way but it will be different. This is not a hoax, I just saw it on the UK
news - it seemed very final this time. It doesnt come as a shock, I thought
that they would have broken up last year.
Ps - I'mm sure of it this time.
Hutchinson,
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:27:34 +0100
From: Michael Hutchinson <hutch@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Guitar gubbins
I asked a while ago but got no reply : does anyone know where to get any
charlatans sheet music? if so isbn no. etc. would be much appreciated. I've
managed to work out some guitar and my band does a pretty neat cover of
can't get out of bed but we mostly play nirvana, oasis and beatles stuff
cause music is easy to get hold of. Also has anyone seen kula shaker or
spacehog live? Are they any good? I'm going in a weeks time (Norwich UEA).
PS. hows this for a signiture ?!
PPS. does anyone live in the Norwich AREA?
Hutchinson,
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:42:15 -0500
From: cpauken@aristotle.net (Christine Pauken)
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
God forbid, if you are for real. Please update.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Maas <masimo@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
I too was at the Bluetones show in San Francisco. I was not that
impressed with the CD but I found them to be much better live. I will
definitely see them if they come around again. They are playing in Los
Angeles tonight, although I believe that show is sold out already.
Mary
Mike Maas (510) 658-0487
Masimo Consulting 2701 Woolsey
specializing in Sybase DBA Issues and Data Recovery Berkeley, CA 94705-2606
---------------------------------
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:40:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Watkins <watkinsb@luigistoaster.pds.charlotte.nc.us>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
> I too was at the Bluetones show in San Francisco. I was not that
> impressed with the CD but I found them to be much better live. I will
> definitely see them if they come around again. They are playing in Los
> Angeles tonight, although I believe that show is sold out already.
>
Does anyone know if there coming to the North Carolina area? Any info is
appreciated.
Thanks
Ben
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:42:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG <krissy@sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
> Well the Bluetones weren't sold out yet, so I went and saw a great show. I was
> a little disapointed, in the rhythm section, but the guitar and vocals were
> really good. They definitely will not be the next Roses, and do not sound a bit
> like Rush.It was a good show, but still nothing compared to the real manc bands
> like the roses and charlatans. Was anyone else from this list at the show?
> -Cresser.
Hello. I was at that Bluetones show last night as well. I got there
around 11:00 and it was sold out. But, some man showed up and sold me a
ticket so i was able to get in and see the show. I thought that they
put on a good show, although it was a little short. But, for $7.00 what
else can you expect! :). For those interested they opened with
Bluetonic and closed with Things Change. The last time I saw them was at
T in the Park this past summer in Scotland. It was definitely a different
experience seeing them in a huge tent and then seeing them in a 400 person
bar! All in all, the show was a great time. I hope to see all of you SF
fans at the Manic Street Preachers show at the Bottom of the Hill later
in the month!
-Krissy
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:25:16 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: Re: Guitar gubbins
No Charlatans, but if yer interested I've got the sheet music & Tablature
from the Stone Roses Second Coming...
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:37:02 -0400
From: Jim Lowe <advantage3@netopia.net>
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
At 07:40 AM 9/12/96 PDT, CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802 wrote:
>Well the Bluetones weren't sold out yet, so I went and saw a great show. I was
>a little disapointed, in the rhythm section, but the guitar and vocals were
>really good. They definitely will not be the next Roses, and do not sound a bit
>like Rush.It was a good show, but still nothing compared to the real manc bands
>like the roses and charlatans. Was anyone else from this list at the show?
I was at the Toronto show, and I thought that the lead singer had a stage
presence very similiar to Tim Burgess a few years ago.
jim
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:24:55 +0800 (SGT)
From: bopgirl <bopgirl@pacific.net.sg>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
At 04:49 PM 9/12/96 +0100, you wrote:
>I'm 99% sure that OAsis have broken up. They are not going to complete the
>US tour. Sad news in my opinion but i'm sure that noel will carry on in some
>way but it will be different. This is not a hoax, I just saw it on the UK
>news - it seemed very final this time. It doesnt come as a shock, I thought
>that they would have broken up last year.
>
>Ps - I'mm sure of it this time.
I'm in denial.is it cos of the differences between the brothers or just
another publicity stunt.they came and went so quickly,i pray it's not
true.please update.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 05:30:30 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Guitar gubbins
I've got a book for second coming that I bought in Japan. Its all wrong
though, and it doesn't have daybreak.
-cresser
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:26:07 +0900
From: Gregory <jag@inJapan.net>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
I'm sorry, but isn't this the Charlatans list. I think it is an insult to
the band to mention the brothers. After giving 20000 yen to the touts for
possibly the worst gig I have ever been to I am not disappointed in the
slightest. For god's sake Ian Brown, DO NOT invite Noel onstage to
Resurrection. Let's just hope they go away.
Gregory
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 07:52:13 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
I think you are insane, sir. The Roses were only 6500 yen in Hiroshima. How
could you pay over $200 to see Oasis. I had to pay $18 here in the states and
ststill felt like I was being ripped off.
-Cresser
p.s. I think we all know this but, Noel can never be half as good as John
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:11:13 -0400
From: Jim Lowe <advantage3@netopia.net>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
At 10:26 PM 9/13/96 +0900, Gregory wrote:
>I'm sorry, but isn't this the Charlatans list. I think it is an insult to
>the band to mention the brothers. After giving 20000 yen to the touts for
>possibly the worst gig I have ever been to I am not disappointed in the
>slightest. For god's sake Ian Brown, DO NOT invite Noel onstage to
>Resurrection. Let's just hope they go away.
If its so insulting to the band, then why did they open for Oasis?
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:50:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: DANIEL MCNELIS <GJNQVBB@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Charlies in D.C. (fourth try)
Kiddos-
I've been off the list for a while, so I'm sorry if this has already
been covered but:
I heard this crazy rumor that the Charlatans were going to play in
Washington D.C. at the 9:30 Club on September 28. If anyone can confirm
or disprove this it would be greatly appreciated. Its about a 6 hour drive
for me, but I did it for Pulp, so what the hell...
dan.
P.S. Philly or Pittsburgh dates would be even better....thanks...
P.P.S. sucks about Oasis. "children, behave..."
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:40:09 -0400
From: Sproston Green <jrobin@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
At 11:11 AM 9/13/96 -0400, Jim Lowe wrote:
>At 10:26 PM 9/13/96 +0900, Gregory wrote:
>>I'm sorry, but isn't this the Charlatans list. I think it is an insult to
>>the band to mention the brothers. After giving 20000 yen to the touts for
>>possibly the worst gig I have ever been to I am not disappointed in the
>>slightest. For god's sake Ian Brown, DO NOT invite Noel onstage to
>>Resurrection. Let's just hope they go away.
>
>If its so insulting to the band, then why did they open for Oasis?
I usually don't mind if people talk about bands similar to the charlatans
which don't have their own mailing lists on this list. But Oasis have
their own fucking list so take this shit over there where I don't have to
delete all the messages cause I'm not subscribed and it's for a reason.
Sproston Green
------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 09:26:23 PDT
From: Xantha Stringfellow <STRING@BNAMF.BLACKWELL.COM>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
Okay...so Oasis have broken up...Big Deal! Actually, I was getting so sick of
them-- were a lot of people--it's probably better that we don't hear from them
in a while. And, Good Grief! If NME could refrain from the Oasis gossip for
just one week, the world would be a nicer place!
Xantha
(Go, Team USA Hockey!!)
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 10:09:46 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" <CWALTON@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
Who are you refering to here? Ian and crew (presently known as the
Stone Roses even though there's only one founding member left)would
never open for another band, especially not Oasis.The Charlatans did,
and blew the doors off Oasis.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:31:48 +0100
From: Michael Hutchinson <hutch@paston.co.uk>
Subject: TFI friday
What a class program! Firstly I found out about oasis - they have not broken
up - they're just not touring anymore.
Secondly THE CHARLATANS - During 'one to another' Tim got bombarded by
underwear - a bra actually landed on his head! It was a brilliant
performance anyway but sadly was cut short.
PS. Thanks Monica - Much Appreciated.
Hutchinson,
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:33:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ailsa Wong <aw204@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Xantha Stringfellow wrote:
> Okay...so Oasis have broken up...Big Deal! Actually, I was getting so sick of
> them-- were a lot of people--it's probably better that we don't hear from them
> in a while. And, Good Grief! If NME could refrain from the Oasis gossip for
> just one week, the world would be a nicer place!
actually, i was very shocked to hear of it this morning on the radio and
shrugged it off as another nasty rumor. but if it's true, so be it. weird
that they were the most successful brit band to hit the states (only ones
in nyc to play the big arenas) and now the are kaput.
btw, when does the charlatans play the states again?
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 14:37:31 EDT
From: devans@ccs.carleton.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
no what i wonder more than if nme can refrain from oasis gossip is why
select bother constantly writing about blur. the other day i was
deserately searching the bookstore at my uni for something to read between
classes and came across last months (i think) select. before buying it i
decided to skim that table of contents to see yet another blur article.
actually the whole issue wasn't that appealing thus i never purchased it.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:42:10 -0400
From: Jim Lowe <advantage3@netopia.net>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
> I usually don't mind if people talk about bands similar to the charlatans
> which don't have their own mailing lists on this list. But Oasis have
> their own fucking list so take this shit over there where I don't have to
> delete all the messages cause I'm not subscribed and it's for a reason.
My question still hasn't been answered. If it is an insult to the
charlatans to even mention Oasis on this list (as Gregory wrote above), then
why did the charlatans open for Oasis.
I agree, though, Oasis should be mourned on the Oasis list, not here.
jim
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:20:03 -0800 (PST)
From: XAPUZDER@ccvax.fullerton.edu
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
Oasis sucks anyway, they may have some semblance of creativity in
a music world filled with rap and talentless drones, but they still suck.
I am grateful, though, that they put music with insturments back in
style........
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 16:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ailsa Wong <aw204@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, deborah evans wrote:
> no what i wonder more than if nme can refrain from oasis gossip is why
> select bother constantly writing about blur. the other day i was
> deserately searching the bookstore at my uni for something to read between
> classes and came across last months (i think) select. before buying it i
> decided to skim that table of contents to see yet another blur article.
> actually the whole issue wasn't that appealing thus i never purchased it.
blur articles at this point are pretty much inevitable. i happen to
appreciate them very much...but i don't actually read them...anyway, i
guess the least you can do is skip 'em, huh.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 16:32:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ailsa Wong <aw204@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802 wrote:
> Who are you refering to here? Ian and crew (presently known as the
> Stone Roses even though there's only one founding member left)would
> never open for another band, especially not Oasis.The Charlatans did,
> and blew the doors off Oasis.
well, manic street preachers opened for oasis recently and i'd like to
know if anyone knows how that turned out. btw, charlatans would blow the
doors off any band...
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:13:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ailsa Wong <aw204@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 XAPUZDER@ccvax.fullerton.edu wrote:
> Oasis sucks anyway, they may have some semblance of creativity in
> a music world filled with rap and talentless drones, but they still suck.
> I am grateful, though, that they put music with insturments back in
> style........
that's a pretty blunt statement and this is coming from a non-oasis fan.
obvious their music was good for them to have gotten this far. if anything
sucked, it definitely would have been their attitudes.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:48:10 -0400
From: CamHugeCo@aol.com
Subject: Re: Guitar gubbins
Mine's got daybreak, was bought in the UK and seems to be correct music....
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:59:58 -0400
From: SPROSTON GREEN <SPROSTON_GREEN@wow.com>
Subject: Reply to: Re: BAD NEWS
i agree who cares about oasis....they steal music from the beatles their
stage pressence from the stone roses....the album they last released had
a few bright spots but doesn't compare to the charlatans 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or
4th albums....and will never live up to the raw magnificents of the roses
first album no matter how big they get
thanks lazyitis
james
austin texas
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:02:31 -0400
From: SPROSTON GREEN <SPROSTON_GREEN@wow.com>
Subject: Reply to: Re: BAD NEWS
does any one else hope that the charlatans will be the stone to the oasis
beatles...they sound nothing alike but the music press always assigns the
two old groups to two current groups......blur oasis.....stone roses happy
mondays for instance
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 20:40:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Reichert <dreicher@mustang.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
>Xantha
>(Go, Team USA Hockey!!)
Oasis viewpoint good, hockey viewpoint bad. Oh well, take it in good spirits
tomorrow night when Canada once again regains the Canada Cup title (this was
the name of the tournament before the AMericans decided that they should run
it. What was Oasis' name before the Americans started to run them?).
DAVE
Go Canada Go!
Allez-y Le Canada
-----------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 20:42:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Reichert <dreicher@mustang.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
> weird
>that they were the most successful brit band to hit the states (only ones
>in nyc to play the big arenas) and now the are kaput.
> btw, when does the charlatans play the states again?
ANd I thought that the Beatles were the biggest Brit band to play the US.
Thought they played arenas too. ;)
Cheers
DAVE
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 10:07:17 +0900
From: Gregory <jag@inJapan.net>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
>why did the charlatans open for Oasis.
Why indeed. Perhaps the opportunity to play to around 250000 people was too
tempting. The more people they can introduce to their music the better. I
would hate to ever see the Charlatans dwindle into obscurity because the fan
base dries up. Though they are in totally different leagues I remeber this
kind of thing hitting That Petrol Emotion and even the Inspirals. I have no
doubt that Tim and the bands performance swayed a number of those quarter of
a million Dire Straits fans.
Gregory
ps-someone wrote that they are not splitting up, they are just no longer
touring. I assume this is their Beatles obsession surfacing once more albeit
at a faster pace. If Patsy is Yoko, does this mean Liam will be shot by a
manic fan.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:02:48 -0700
From: Josef Slobodzian <fesoj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
That's a really good point! I really liked Oasis pretty much up to
the point where Wonderwall Was played every five minutes! Then to
find out they were just a buch of snotty, ignorant brats. It really
made their music less important and dissapointing.
Too bad, so sad. They probably really COULD HAVE been good.
It just makes the Charlatans shine enev more brightly than ever.
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:52:58 -0400
From: ShamanBart@aol.com
Subject: Re: another S.F. fan
>>I'm 99% sure that OAsis have broken up.
>>I too was at the Bluetones show in San Francisco. I was not that
>>impressed with the CD but I found them to be much better live.
I happen to be listening to the Bluetones LP right now and have been for the
last several days. I am hooked big time! Sounds like early Stone Roses with
a countryish twinge at times, but the guitars are something else. If they
can come close live, it would be much more interesting than a lot of bands
out there. I'll be lookin for them here.
As for Oasis, well, it has been that kind of year hasn't it? Maybe the
sudden stardom freaked them out totally. Once Patsy Kensit walks on Liam, he
will come back to what little sense he has and realize the folly. Glad I got
to see them up close and personal twice before the champagne novaed in their
heads.
On my way out to buy the Charlatans single. Thanks for the news.
shamanbart
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:11:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: DANIEL MCNELIS <GJNQVBB@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
Funny-
I, too, made the "Oasis gives up touring" connection to the Beatles.
Is Noel stalking the Fab Four (or three, no disrespect intended, John)?
Give it up, fellas....(and I even like Oasis!)
dan.
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:06:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ailsa Wong <aw204@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, David Reichert wrote:
> > weird
> >that they were the most successful brit band to hit the states (only ones
> >in nyc to play the big arenas) and now the are kaput.
> > btw, when does the charlatans play the states again?
> >
> ANd I thought that the Beatles were the biggest Brit band to play the US.
> Thought they played arenas too. ;)
hey...you know what i mean... but thanks for correcting me, huh.
beatles...that's right. good one :D AILSA B)
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ailsa Wong <aw204@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS
well, i thought that oasis' attitudes were good to laugh at. they
complained about other bands not enjoying the spotlight and looking
gloomy, and i'm sure they were the happiest looking sods around. hmm..
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