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The Charlatans Digest Volume 01 Issue 03
The Charlatans Digest Sun Dec 03, 1995 Volume 1 : Issue 03
There are 75 messages totalling 1675 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. easy life.... (3)
2. touring
3. Hot Licks + Etc. (2)
4. youngest fan (2)
5. top 10 bands (32)
6. bands and albums
7. Stone Roses Bootleg CD (2)
8. top 10 list
9. Top 10 Worst Bands (9)
10. top ten likes/dislikes
11. Worst band in the world (4)
12. Next album!!
13. EARTHLING
14. 10
15. why top 10s... (3)
16. top 10
17. let it die... (3)
18. up to our hips (2)
19. Worst bands (2)
20. as per requested: Charlies' Top Tenner
21. Q article
22. Charlatans mailinglist Archive
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:08:45 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: easy life....
I did get that nifty little box and the postcards, but Tim's was missing.
Oh well.
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:03:09 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY <wolsmr@hg.uleth.ca>
Subject: Re: easy life....
tim didn't come with that set only 3 of the 7 did if you have something you
wanna trade i'll trade you my post cards of tim and rob
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From: "Greg Ipp" <gipp@fun.direct.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:02:05 +0000
Subject: Re: easy life....
> tim didn't come with that set only 3 of the 7 did if you have something you
> wanna trade i'll trade you my post cards of tim and rob
wow, you're actually willing to trade tim?? :)
to the rest of the list: anyone have a copy of Me In Time you'd be
willing trade/part with for cash?
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:29:19 +0100
From: Eirik Gudmundsen <eirikg@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: touring
> I read in an interview in MM that when they finished Up to Our Hips they didn't
> feel the album had been up to their best and started recording Charlatans
> almost straight away. When they finished that Tim felt they had exhausted all
> their best ideas and were therefore very happy with the album. I therefore
> can't really see them releasing any new albums for the next 12 months,
> especially as no recording will be taking place whilst they are still touring.
I read that interview myself. But that was just around it's release, and it's
normal they feal they have given all their best, and that they don't have
anything more to give. But now they've been on tour again, and have propably
got some new inspiritation. I have read in an interview after the one in MM,
and there Tim actually said he wanted to make the albums fast. It really
sounded like he wanted to make a new album pretty quickly in that interview. I
hope and believe they won't wait too long before they release some new stuff.
But then again, you never know with the Charlatans. I know the next thing
they'll do will be great, though.
Anyway, I've heard rumours that they were going to appear along with Stone
Roses and Black Grape at Spike Island (I'm suddenly not quite sure that was
the righ name, but anyway..) in May 1996, so that's at least one concert.
I am also lookimg forward to when the tribute album for The (Small) Faces are
being released in 1996. The Charlatans are contributing with a song there
along with Ride, Primal Scream and a bunch of others.
cheers,
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:41:26 -0500
From: Balluff@aol.com
Subject: Hot Licks + Etc.
Hello all,
For those interested, The Beat! Records in Sacramento, CA has several copies
of the Charlatans Hot Licks bootleg CD for sale. The disc was recorded in
Italy in 1992, and has very good audio. You can mail order, and the phone
number is 916-446-4402.
I'm also selling a live Stone Roses bootleg CD called "Stoned Kids". It was
recorded on 5/21/95 at the Avalon Club in Boston. I'd like $25 which includes
postage. Email if interested.
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:10:37 -0500
From: "James D. Lowe" <JLOWE@central.georcoll.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Hot Licks + Etc.
> For those interested, The Beat! Records in Sacramento, CA has several copies
> of the Charlatans Hot Licks bootleg CD for sale. The disc was recorded in
> Italy in 1992, and has very good audio. You can mail order, and the
I can't reccomend this CD enough! The sound quality is amazing...far
better than most boots you find and it really demonstrates how good
the charlies are in person. Tim's mumbling is hilarious...especially
when he promises that "this is the last time you'll ever here this song"
(The Only One I Know).
More than anything, its worth it for the killer version of "Happen To
Die". Its about 10 minutes long...dead dead good! "Can't Even Be
Bothered" also stands out as a song much better live than on the
studio recording.
My only complaint about this CD is that it doesn't have "Sproston
Green" on it, but at least its on the "Isolation" CD.
jim
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:56:08 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: youngest fan
Just a funny note for everyone...
My little cousin, who's only four years old, likes the Charlatans and the
Stone Roses more than anything else!!!
Seriously!
I take him to kindergarten every morning, and he always asks me to play
*the Organ Song*(The Only One I Know) by *sharlans*, or *the Jungle Song*
(Breaking into Heaven by the Stone Roses). His other faves are *the Drums
Song* (Fools Gold), *the Guitar Song*(Wonderwall) by *Ueyses* , *the Ghost
Song* (Echoes by Pink Floyd), *I bin uatchin' you* by *the Policemen*, and
*the Funny Song*(Intermission by Blur - is that what it's called? I'm not
sure, but it's the 9th song on Rubbish...And he REALLY likes all of the
songs mentioned! He likes them more than the soundtracks to Lion King,
Aladdin, etc. He even has the same haircut as John Squire and Tim Burgess
but he's blond. He cracks me up!
"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
Krassi
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:02:03 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: top 10 bands
Hi everyone!
Since the list has been a bit slow, maybe we could do some kind of a music
taste survey...Let's list our top 10 favorite
bands/musicians/artists/songwriters (Charlatans not counting of course), and
our top 15 favorite albums (no Charlies stuff here either). I've always
found it helpful to get exposed to new music (meaning music I haven't heard
before) by recommendations from other people who's passion also is music.
I'll start first:
top 10 bands
0.Beatles
1.Stone Roses
2.Pink Floyd
3.Slowdive
4.The Cure
5.Orbital
6.Oasis
7.New Order
8.Depeche Mode
9.The The
top 10 albums
0. Orbital - brown album (Orbital 2?)
1. Stone Rose - Stone Roses
2. Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust
3. Pink Floyd - Meddle
4. The Cure - Disintegration
5. The Pixies - Bossanova
6. The Smiths - Strange Ways Here We Come
7. Vivaldi - Four Seasons
8. Stone Roses - Second Coming
9. Slowdive - Just For A Day
10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
11. Oasis - Definitely Maybe
12. Moodswing - Moodfood
13. Beatles - Abbey Road
14. The The - Mind Bomb
Lastly, maybe we could name one CD that we couldn't imagine living without.
Imagine if you were to live on an island for say a year, and you could take
only one CD with you - the one that you feel you won't get sick of listening
to for so long... I know that it's a tough choice, but let's try!
top 1 album
1. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
Krassi
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:02:05 +0000
From: "Greg Ipp" <gipp@fun.direct.ca>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
ok ... my top ten bands:
1. the verve
2. the stone roses
3. ride
4. spiritualized
5. slowdive
6. swervedriver
7. sianspheric4
8. blur
9. oasis
10. happy mondays
top 10 albums:
1. the stone roses - the stone roses
2. the verve - a storm in heaven
3. ride - nowhere
4. slowdive - souvlaki
5. spiritualized - pure phase
6. blur - leisure
7. the verve - a northern soul
8. swervedriver - ejectorseat reservation
9. sianspheric4 - somnium
10. ride - going blank again
album i couldn't live without:
the stone roses - the stone roses
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:46:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck <justin@aris.ss.uci.edu>
Subject: Re: youngest fan
Sounds like a cool kid! Bet he doesn't like Barney either.
Justin
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:10:40 -0500
From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
Top 10 bands in no particular order: Blur, Inspiral Carpets, the Rosemarys,
Ride, Suede, Band of Susans, Echobelly, Saint Etienne, Verve, Oasis,
Slowdive (hmm...thats 11...oh well).
Top 10 cds in no particular order: Ride - Nowhere, Ride - Smile, Saint
Etienne - Foxbase Alpha, Verve - A Northern Soul, Inspiral Carpets -
Revenge of the Goldfish, Slowdive - Souvlaki, Suede - Dog Man Star, Oasis -
WTSMG, The Rosemarys - the Rosemarys (current faves...list will be
completely different in a week).
Either Suede - DMS, Ride - Nowhere or Slowdive - Souvlaki. Cant make up my mind.
Nik Hultin
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:15:27 -0600 (CST)
From: cooper andrew j <acooper@students.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
in no particular order, off the top of my head...
dinosaur jr
kate bush
boiled in lead
the cure
drovers
soundgarden
possum dixon
erasure
jimi hendrix
afghan whigs
ten albums
kate bush - hounds of love
the cure - seventeen seconds
soundgarden - superunknown
babes in toyland - fontanelle
dinosaur jr - where you been
mazzy star - so tonight that i might see
belly - king
nine inch nails - pretty hate machine
erasure - the innocents
catherine wheel - chrome
> album i couldn't live without:
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:22:21 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: Hot Licks + Etc.
Can you list the songs on both the Charlies live disc and the Stone Roses
live disc. I'm interested but I would like to know the songs before buying.
Thanks
-LM
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:30:12 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
Top Ten in No Order.
Oasis
Catherine Wheel
Depeche Mode
Stone Roses
Blur
Ocean Blue
311
Smiths/Morrissey
Sundays
Frank Black
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:49:26 -0500
From: Balluff@aol.com
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
Here's my list......
Favorite Artists:
Paul Weller / Style Council
Oasis
Beautiful South / Housemartins
The The
Galliano
Primal Scream
Black Grape / Happy Mondays
Led Zeppelin
Stone Roses
Blur
Favorite Albums:
Paul Weller - Wildwood
Paul Weller - Live Wood
Paul Weller - Stanley Road
Style Council - Live, Home & Abroad
Beautiful South - Miaow
Housemartins - London 0 Hull 4
The The - Dusk
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Galliano - What Color Our Flag?
Primal Scream - Give Out But Don't Give Up
Led Zeppelin - Box Set
Mother Earth
James Taylor Quartet
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:49:55 EST
From: "Aliena" <RHOBCROFT@bss.inforamp.net>
Subject: top 10 bands
ok ... my top ten bands:
1. The Verve
2. The Beatles
3. The Stone Roses
4. Oasis
5. The Chemical Bros.
6. St.Etienne
7. Portishead
8. Ride
9. REM
10. Soul Coughing
top 10 albums:
1. The Verve - A Storm in Heaven
2. Jefferson Airplane - The Worst of Jefferson Airplane
3. The Boo Radleys - Learning to Walk
4. The Stone Roses - Second Coming
5. The Verve - A Northern Soul
6. St.Etienne - So Tough
7. Captain Beefheart - Strictly Personal
8. Pink Floyd - The Wall
9. James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim
10. Ride - Canival of Light
Album I couldn't live without:
Des O'Connor's Magic Christmas (Disco beat mix)
oh......ermmm I mean:
The Verve - ASIH ;-D
Cheers, Robyn :)
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:01:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Rehak <rehak@panix.com>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
Funny, but so far I seem to be alone in my musical tastes. I like a lot of
the bands that've been listed, like Inspiral Carpets, Stone Roses, 311, the
Verve, but none of 'em would make my top 10 list. Here, I'll show you:
The Pogues
Billy Bragg
They Might Be Giants
Ramones
Dead Can Dance
Velvet Underground
Jane's Addiction
Misfits
Velocity Girl
Pink Floyd
That's in no particular order. Top 10 albums is hard to narrow down, but
here goes:
Rum, Sodomy & The Lash---Pogues
Dark Side of the Moon----Pink Floyd
Flood---They Might Be Giants
News Of the World---Queen
The new Smashing Pumpkins(cant find it & dont remember the name)
Ziggy Stardust----Bauhaus
Ramones Mania---Ramones
Collected Robert Johnson vol.1
Saltarello---Dead Can Dance
Best of Jimi Hendrix(or something)
Just my 2 cents(or pence, or whatever).
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:10:40 -0600 (CST)
From: John H Bergstrom <mode1@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: bands and albums
bands:
depeche mode
psychedelic furs
pink floyd
beatles
the the
smiths
everything but the girl
church
smashing pumpkins
pet shop boys
albums:
black celebration- depeche mode
wish you were here- pink floyd
the hurting- tears for fears
stone roses- stone roses
talk talk talk- psychedelic furs
viva hate- morrissey
louder than bombs- the smiths
sgt. pepper's- the beatles
pills 'n' thrills- happy mondays
paris- the cure
island:
black celebration- depeche mode.
jb
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:02:55 -0500
From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
I'll have a go...
>top 10 bands or so in no peticula ordr
Stone Roses
Cure
Orbital
New Order / Joy Division / Electronic
Ride
Black Grape / Happy Mondays
The The
Inspiral Carpets
Chameleons
..and some angry stuff for high speed drivin' -
.....nin, skinny puppy, ministry, frontline assembly..
>top 10 albums
ride - nowhere
orbital - brown album
joy division - closer
inspiral carpets - life
cure - disintegration
black grape - it's great when you're f*cking straight, yeah
stone roses - stone roses
the the - soul mining
new order - low-life
>top 1 album
cure - pornography
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 22:19:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Green <kgreen@dcs.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
mine would have to be the stone roses
laterz
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:27:53 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
You are a chump, Kevin Green
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:32:36 GMT
From: ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk (Mark Gordon)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
1.Stone Roses
2.Stone Roses
3.Stone Roses
4.Stone Roses
5.Stone Roses
6.Stone Roses
7.Stone Roses
8.Stone Roses
9.Stone Roses
10.Stone Roses
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:24:12 +0100
From: Eirik Gudmundsen <eirikg@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
It seems like I listen to music that all of you listen to. But I was most
suprised by Niklas Hultin mentioning The Rosemarys. I've actually got that CD
only by chance, and I haven't heard nothing whatsoever about them. They sound
like a band a little too late for the Manchester scene, but it's OK!
Anyway, here's my list, at least for today, in no order:
Ride
The Verve
The The
Jellyfish
Stone Roses
Oasis
Blur
Lush
The Boo Radleys
The Real People
That's not enough of my favourite bands that I could've put in here, but those
were the first in my head.
Top 15 albums in no order:
The Real People - The Real People
Ride - Going Blank Again
The The - Dusk
Jellyfish - Bellybuttom
Airhead - Boing!
The Prodigy - Experience
Verve - A Storm In Heaven
Lush - Spooky
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Howard Jones - Humans Lib
Suede - Dog Man Star
Dodgy - Homegrown
The Lightning Seeds - Jollyfication
The Beautiful South - Welcome To The Beautiful South
Curve - Doppelganger
This is hard, because I love everything! Howard Jones sits deep in me, from my
childhood. It was my first big musical experience when I was 8 years, and it
was strong.
The one album I would need on an island except from the Charlatans' is:
The Real People - The Real People
That album is a classic, and for me it's timeless. It's sad they've been
forgotten!
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:19:45 GMT
From: campbell colin <ccampbel@geology.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
its not where your from mate its where your at
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:19:07 GMT
From: campbell colin <ccampbel@geology.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
im no kevin green but the second coming is one hell of a good album
theres no pleasing some people
it totally kicks the shit out of anything fuckin oasis and co. have released ever
ok?
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:55:04 -0500
From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
>It seems like I listen to music that all of you listen to. But I was most
>suprised by Niklas Hultin mentioning The Rosemarys. I've actually got that CD
>only by chance, and I haven't heard nothing whatsoever about them. They sound
>like a band a little too late for the Manchester scene, but it's OK!
>Anyway, here's my list, at least for today, in no order:
[...]
I think they (the Rosemarys) try really hard to sound like Ride or Lush,
with some success.They have two albums out on Fox Records (California based
- they are from San Fran). I'm surprised they have been released in Europe.
Nik Hultin
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:11:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck <justin@aris.ss.uci.edu>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
I've seen people mention St. Etienne and Spiritualized. Somehow I've
managed to miss hearing their music. Anyone care to give me some sort of
description or comparisons with other bands or sounds? Stereolab as well!
thanks!
Justin
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:34:44 -0500
From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
>I've seen people mention St. Etienne and Spiritualized. Somehow I've
>managed to miss hearing their music. Anyone care to give me some sort of
>description or comparisons with other bands or sounds? Stereolab as well!
Cant help you with Spiritualized but as for Saint Etinne... well, they are
very much club oriented but not techno or the "eurobeat" stuff MTV plays.
Every once in a while they remind me of a less noir Portishead, though such
a comparison is far from correct. Actually, their material ranges from the
very dancy Pale Movie (of Tiger Bay, they latest) to more dub-oriented
material like "She's the One" from their debut Foxbase Alpha to retro-ish
ballads like "Hobart Paving" from So Tough. I haven't heard much of Tiger
Bay but I think it's a little bit more dance-oriented than their previous
two albums. Of So Tough and Foxbase Alpha, I recommend the latter more (if
for no other reason, it has a really cool cover of Neil Young's "Only Love
Can Break Your Heart"). Hope this helps some, maybe someone else can pick
up where I left...
Nik Hultin
P.S. I noticed that many people mentioned the Inspirals as one of their
faves. I'm currently working on an WWW page dedicated to them. For more
info, or if you can help me with material, e-mail me at:
hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:22:03 GMT
From: "Dave Lewis" <ICS5DML@EAST-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
seeing as St Etienne now seem to be the major topic of conversation I
can reccomend Dubstar to any fans. They sound pretty similar and the
album 'Disgraceful' is excellent. Theyre touring the UK at the
moment and are brilliant live. As for top ten artists/bands (no particular
order) -
Stone Roses
Oasis
Gorky's Zycotic Mynci
Beatles
Crowded House
Cast
Jeff Buckley
Ash
Teenage Fanclub
Tokyo Sexwail (my mates their guitarist and he'd be offended if I
didnt include them. If anyone has ever seen them live (they play
around Norwich) then please e-mail me!)
sorry but I cant be bothered to think of my top ten albums.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:52:37 -0500
From: Balluff@aol.com
Subject: FS: Stone Roses Bootleg CD
As I mentioned a few days ago, I have a live Stone Roses CD for sale. It is
called "Stoned Kids" and was recorded at the Avalon Club in Boston on
5/21/95. It seems to be an audience recording, and the audio quality is fair
to good. I'd like to get $25 (which includes postage) for it.
The track listing is:
1. i wanna be adored
2. waterfall
3. ten storey love song
4. daybreak
5. your star still shines
6. tightrope
7. elizabeth/ressurection
8. good times
9. love spreads
10. made of stone
11. driving south
total time: 62:14
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:32:37 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: FS: Stone Roses Bootleg CD
How about the track listing for the live Charlies CD?
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:21:39 +0000
From: "Greg Ipp" <gipp@fun.direct.ca>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
> From: "Aliena" <RHOBCROFT@bss.inforamp.net>
>
> ,---> so i got in the car, we drove for a mile, i didnt even know her name
> | she said, "you got the money and i've got the time." ...
> `-. five years later on, she became my lover, taught me everything i know.
> | she said, "you were born to fly my son,"
> `---> i said, "hey, i already know."
> because it's all inside
> because it's all inside
> I was born to fly, fly pretty high
> Because it's all in the mind......
hey ... im impressed :)
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:08 PST
From: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
My top 10 fave bands:
1 - The Beatles
2 - The Rolling Stones (esp. when Keith holds the reins)
3 - The Who
4 - The Stone Roses
5 - Blur
6 - Nirvana
7 - Texas
8 - The Grapes Of Wrath
9 - The Black Crowes
10 - Dramarama
My top 10 fave albums:
1 - Revolver (The Beatles)
2 - Live At Leeds -- the reissued release (The Who)
3 - Exile On Main Street (The Rolling Stones)
4 - Bleach (Nirvana)
5 - The Stone oses (The Stone Roses)
6 - Plastic Ono Band (John Lennon)
7 - Layla (Derek and the Dominos)
8 - The Beatles (The Beatles)
9 - Parklife (Blur)
10 - Automatic For The People (REM)
Album for the deserted island:
The Beatles (The Beatles) ---> Just because there are so many different
types of songs, and therefore tough to get bored of. A masterpeice!
Dougie
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:57:28 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all?
-LM
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:02:08 -0700 (MST)
From: Mique Reisch <mreisch@swcp.com>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all?
nope, I despise them
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:12:19 +0000 (GMT)
From: RM Hewes <rmh105@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Subject: top 10 bands
Why has no one got PULP in their list of favourite bands?
PULP Rule
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:17:27 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
>On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
>
>> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all?
>>
> nope, I despise them
Alright, I found at least one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:40:01 -0500
From: DavidG6523@aol.com
Subject: top 10 list
Greetings,
This was extremenly difficult!!!
bands
10. Therapy?
9. Jane's Addiction
8. The Cure
7. The Smiths
6. The God Machine
5. Blur
4. Smashing Pumpkins
3. Nine Inch Nails
2. The Stone Roses
1. Catherine Wheel -- this band rules!!!
recordings -- no particular order
Verve - the new one
Blur - Mordern Life...
The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow
The Cure - Faith
The Stone Roses - Second Coming
Therapy? - Nurse
Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
Catherine Wheel - everything they ever recorded
The God Machine - Scenes From The Second Storey
Swervedriver - Mescal Head
Suede
Rage Against The Machine
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Lush - Spooky
desert island (this is imposible!!!)
Ride - nowhere
As you can see from the above, I have a somewhat schizophrenic taste in
music. Am I the oldest one on this list at 35?
The new Chemical Brothers CD is really growing on me. Can anyone suggest
some similar artists to try out?
Cordially,
Dave (please don't call them the Charlies) Gardin -- DaividG6523@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:18:09 -0500
From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green)
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
>>On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
>>
>>> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all?
>>>
>> nope, I despise them
>
>Alright, I found at least one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
make that two. i never really cared for their music. i can't refute the
great influence its had on the music we listen to but the songs just
tend to get old real fast. i guess you had to be there (i wasn't).
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:49:41 PST
From: Ellen Kim <E4KIM@ARTSU1.watstar.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Top 10 Worst Bands
Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same
things:
1. NKOTB
2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers)
3. Hooty and the Blowfish
4. Pearl Jam
5.
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 19:33 PST
From: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
> Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same
> things:
>
> 1. NKOTB
> 2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers)
As long as Sarah McLachlan isn't includd in this category.
> 3. Hooty and the Blowfish
Call me odd, but I like Hootie.
> 4. Pearl Jam
I'm gonna ignore this.
> 5.
5. Take That
6. Phil Collins
7. Tears For Fears (well, I like Songs From The Big Chair)
8. Poison (and any other supposed hard rock band like Bon Jovi)
9. TLC (and other lame ass dance bands)
10. The supposed "soul" music we hear today that would have Otis Redding
rolling in his grave
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 00:16:12 -0500
From: st930454@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (Briana Campbell)
Subject: top ten likes/dislikes
First of all . . . hate the Beatles?
I know Michael Stipe said he thought they were elevator music, but come on!
My top bands, in no particular order at all:
The Jam, Pulp, Beautiful South, Echobelly, REM, Blur, The Verve, Suede . . .
I am kind of partial (perhaps due to geography) to the following bands:
Tracy Bonham, Jennifer Trynin . . . The Boston scene as it happens today
and as it evolves from day to day.
Albums that completely rock:
Um, anything and everythign by the Jam: Live Jam, Wasteland, Extras . . .
everything.
The Beautiful South-Miaow, Welcome to the Beutiful South
Echobelly-EGO, On
Supergrass-I Should Coco
Blur-Modern Life Is Rubbish
Pulp-It, His N' Hers (the new one's not out in the States yet :( )
Radiohead-The Bends
The Verve-A Northern Soul
REM-Chronic Town and everything UNTIL (and not including) Out of Time and a
few songs
from Monster (particularily Crush With Eyeliner)
Album I could not live without:
Echobelly-Everyone's Got One (I am a painter and that album really helped
me through an extremely difficult time in my life and work) or maybe, hm,
something by the Jam, but I can't bring myself to pick . . .
Bands that completely suck:
I agree with whoever started the list and I disagree with whoever it was
that like Pearl Jam.
And, puh-lease! Hootie and the Blowfish? I suppose you dig Dave matthews
and Phish as well. Those are the big pot-smoking frat boy bands where I'm
at.
Now I have a question which I'd like to pose:
My friend and I will be in London for two weeks in Late December/early January.
What should we definitely do/see?
What should we bypass?
AND, anyone know of any good shows at that time?
Thanks in advance!
Briana Campbell
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:18:01 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
>Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same
>things:
>
>1. NKOTB
>2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers)
>3. Hooty and the Blowfish
>4. Pearl Jam
>5.
I'm very dissappointed. NKOTB???????????? ANd you're a CHarlatans Fan?????
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:22:03 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Worst band in the world
Hey I got the two worst bands ever. Even worse than the Beatles.
1) Grateful Dead
2) Phish
Enough said.
-LM
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:19:14 -0500
From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
>Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same
>things:
>
>1. NKOTB
>2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers)
>3. Hooty and the Blowfish
>4. Pearl Jam
>5.
I'm sorry.After I sent that last message, I realized that these are top 10
worst bands. Right on!!!!!!!!! Again,my apologies.
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 12:04:04 +0100
From: Eirik Gudmundsen <eirikg@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
Top 10 Worst bands:
1. Kenny G
2. Mariah Carey
3. Guns'n'Roses - All Heavy Metal bands (they are not "heavy" at all!)
4. Dr. Albarn
5. Bonnie Riatt
6. East 17
7. Celine Dion - absolutely
8. Queen - especially the releases after Freddi's death
9. Soul Asylum
10. Green "fucking" Day
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:24:34 +0000
From: Tim B <ceercs@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Subject: Next album!!
I knew that if I put 'top 10 albums' as the title no one would bother
reading it, so I used a little bit of artistic licence.
Top Bands (No Order):
:Oasis
:Stone Roses
:Bluetones
:Black Grape
:Nirvana
:Beatles
:Bluetones (Too good to be put in just once)
:Chemical Bros
:Supergrass
:The Kinks
The albums would follow pretty much the same pattern
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 06:35:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Tai <ttruong@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
hey everyone!
i'm new on the list, just like to say that the beatles suck, suck, suck
that's all
but the Charlatans RULE!!@!
bye!
tai
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:44:18 GMT
From: "Dave Lewis" <ICS5DML@EAST-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all?
YES
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:01:34 +0100
From: gill <es0u505c@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: top 10 bands
In message Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:12:19 +0000 (GMT),
RM Hewes <rmh105@mailer.york.ac.uk> writes:
> Why has no one got PULP in their list of favourite bands?
> PULP Rule
damn right
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:01:53 +0000
From: 9416641@edufee.fee.uva.nl
Subject: EARTHLING
hi everybody,
I'm new to the list', or actually i've been on it for a week now .
I don't understand why everybody sends in his top ten list.
it includes so many of the same bands that I wonder why not everybody
just only mentions the ones that are a bit more odd.
Well maybe no one agrees but that is the way I see it.
AND........ Why isn't EARTHLING nowhere on the lists???
I saw them 2 days ago here in Amsterdam and they definetely ruled.
Bye, lisa
-------------------------
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:48:38 GMT
From: a94cw@alpha2.luton.ac.uk (SO THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE LONELY THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALL...)
Subject: top 10 bands
Right these are my ten favourite bands,
1. Oasis
2. The Stone roses
3. Gene
4. The Bluetones
5. The Charlatans
6. Pulp
7. Menswe@r
8. Primal Scream
9. Heavy stereo
10. Black Grape
------------------------
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:07:55 PST
From: Ellen Kim <E4KIM@ARTSU1.watstar.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
>Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same
> >things:
> >
> >1. NKOTB
> >2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers)
> >3. Hooty and the Blowfish
> >4. Pearl Jam
> >5.
> I'm very dissappointed. NKOTB???????????? ANd you're a CHarlatans Fan?????
To give you the benefit of the doubt. Did you read the header? It says
top 10 WORST bands...started on a bored whim; didn't think people would
ponder it. Let's end it now or we can spend here til disco 2000 saying
all the bands that are crap.
Cheers&sneers, El
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:34:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Sproston Green <haversto@students.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
i cant believe im doing this but here are my 10 fav bands
1. Charlatans
2. The Orb
3. Dinosaur Jr
4. Teenage Fanclub
5. Sonic Youth
6. Blur
7. Pavement
8. Oasis
9. Moby
10. Flaming Lips
Top 10 albums of all time
1. R.E.M.- Murmur
2. Charlatans- Up To Our Hips
3. Dinosaur Jr- Youre Living All Over Me
4. Teenage Fanclub- Bandwagonesque
5. Flaming Lips- Transmissions From the Satellite Heart
6. The Orb- Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
7. Stone Roses- Stone Roses
8. Blur- Modern Life Is Rubbish
9. Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted
10. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation
Also worth considering: Charlie Parker, The Verve, All, The Clash, Oasis,
Guided By Voices, Boo Radleys, Stereolab, Spiritualized, Pulp, Chemical
Brothers
cheers
matt
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:08:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck <justin@aris.ss.uci.edu>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
HEY PAY ATTENTION. The post was about ****WORST**** bands.
Justin
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:21:37 -0500 (EST)
From: rvm <rvanmil@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: top 10 bands
On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all?
i'm there with ya, buddy!
cheers!
rvm
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Benda <bendaj@belnet.bellevue.k12.wa.us>
Subject: 10
1.) Stone Roses Stone Roses
2.) Tsunami Heart's Tremolo
3.) Red House Painters (1st eponymous)
4.) Digable Planets Blowout Comb
5.) Charlatans Up to Our Hips
6.) Drugstore Drugstore
7.) Felt Ignite the 7 cannons
8.) Nice Apple Pie
9.) Ride Grasshopper (Japan Imp.)
10.) Stereolab Mars Audiac Quintet
10-11 Charlatans Between 10th and 11th
Get it? Damn I'm clever. Also new to the list. And "Just Looking" for
now, huh, huh, on a roll...
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:22:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Green <kgreen@dcs.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: why top 10s...
this is a list of bands that I think a lot of charlatans fans might like
stone roses
happy mondays
inspiral carpets
northside
all of the madchester type stuff
new bands like
northern uproar are excellent( i only have their debut single and its great)
the bluetones are definitely a band everyone should give a shot in my opinion
slight return is definitely the best single of 1995 in my opinion and are
you blue and bluetonic are great also
laterz
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:02:04 +0000
From: "Greg Ipp" <gipp@fun.direct.ca>
Subject: Re: why top 10s...
> the bluetones are definitely a band everyone should give a shot in my opinion
> slight return is definitely the best single of 1995 in my opinion and are
> you blue and bluetonic are great also
yeah, they're a great band ... almost as good as:
cast
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:50:54 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: why top 10s...
Hi Lisa and everyone!
>I don't understand why everybody sends in his top ten list.
>it includes so many of the same bands that I wonder why not everybody
>just only mentions the ones that are a bit more odd.
Ok. I was the one who started this thread, and I appologize to the people on
the list who are tired of getting messages with "top 10" in the subject
line. I didn't expect this to get blown out of proportion...
All I wanted, was to see what other music Charlatans fans like. By sharing
our tastes, I thought that people on the list would know what to listen to
and look for in the music store, the next time they're there.
Recommendations from fans are a lot more helpful (in my opinion) than any
other source of exposure to music - radio, MTV, magazine reviews, etc.
So, for those of you who DID enjoy finding out what other bands are liked
by Charlies fans, I can compile a list with the bands that had the most
entries, and then a list of the ones that had only say 1 or 2, that is - a
list of the "more odd" bands.
>Well maybe no one agrees but that is the way I see it.
>AND........ Why isn't EARTHLING nowhere on the lists???
>I saw them 2 days ago here in Amsterdam and they definetely ruled.
See Lisa, that's exactly my point! I have never heard of EARTHLING before,
but now I know that it's a band that someone with a similar taste of music
likes and I would try to find their disc and listen to it...
Peace!
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:47:22 -0500 (EST)
From: rvm <rvanmil@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Ellen Kim wrote:
> Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same
> things:
>
> 1. NKOTB
> 2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers)
> 3. Hooty and the Blowfish
> 4. Pearl Jam
> 5.
cool. another university of waterloo student.
incidentally, i don't think pj is all that bad.
nkotb on the other hand...
cheers!
rvm
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:13:25 -0500 (EST)
From: rvm <rvanmil@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Worst band in the world
On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
> Hey I got the two worst bands ever. Even worse than the Beatles.
>
> 1) Grateful Dead
> 2) Phish
cheers!
rvm
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:43:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck <justin@aris.ss.uci.edu>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands
I hate to perpetuate a thread by asking that a thread be ended, but this
is really ridiculous. It's a mailing list--NOT a newsgroup. So little
comments about this or that are not appropriate. I'm very close to
cancelling my subscription to this list.
Don't reply to this thread-- email me if you want to gripe.
Justin
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 15:05:29 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY <wolsmr@hg.uleth.ca>
Subject: re: top 10
top 10 albums:
1. The Verve - A Storm in Heaven
2. Jefferson Airplane - The Worst of Jefferson Airplane
3. The Boo Radleys - Learning to Walk
4. The Stone Roses - Second Coming
5. The Verve - A Northern Soul
6. St.Etienne - So Tough
7. Captain Beefheart - Strictly Personal
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a squid eatin dough in a polyethyline bag is fast and bulbous!
YES FINALLY SOMEONE METIONS THE CAPTAIN!
------------------------
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:58:02 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY <wolsmr@hg.uleth.ca>
Subject: RE: Worst band in the world
i must agree with your selections...
phish is one of the most over rated bands only following nirvana and pearl jam
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:16:32 PST
From: Ellen Kim <E4KIM@ARTSU1.watstar.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: let it die...
Last posting (I command!) on the whole bloody "top 10 worst" thread. As
I thought I nicely explained; it was an accident that it even got sent.
2ndly, I am not responsible if others wanted to add to it. Thought it was
a nice diversion from "I luv the Roses, Oasis etc..." but as some people are
taking it a lil' too close to heart; let it die.
Onto some Charlies' news (more importantly). Don't know if anyone else
has mentioned the Dec 5 issue of "Raw". Has a proper top10 list...how to
be stars by Tim&co. Hilarious. Will print it up if anyone requests it.
----------------------
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:55:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck <justin@aris.ss.uci.edu>
Subject: Re: let it die...
Please, I'd like to see their funny list!
Justin
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 20:48:22 -0500
From: DavidG6523@aol.com
Subject: up to our hips
Howdy,
Has this ever happened to you...
I have one of those jobs where you sit around a lot. So I have a boombox at
my desk and listen on headphones most of the day. I was listening to "up to
our hips" for about the 100th time. It seems that everytime I get to Patrol
or Inside-Looking Out I totally loose concentration on whatever I'm working
on and I have to start groovin' to the music.
This album is just so awesome!!! Martin and Jon are soooo tight on rhythm,
awesome!!!
By the way, does anyone out there know what the heck "i never want an easy
life..." is all about. It a great, great groove, but I'd like to know what
they're trying to say. Any ideas?
Keep on groovin',
Dave Gardin
"you're fuck-all next to me" - the charlatans
P.S. I thought the top 10 idea was a good one: I personally found a few
bands that I've got to check out now because of your lists -- and it was also
a good lesson in crowd psychology
------------------------
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:35:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Rehak <rehak@panix.com>
Subject: Re: let it die...
On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Justin Beck wrote this about the list in Raw
that Ellen Kim mentioned:
> Please, I'd like to see their funny list!
Yeah, I second that. Send it to us, would ya?
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:52:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck <justin@aris.ss.uci.edu>
Subject: Re: up to our hips
Sounds just like me except I don't feel comfortable enough yet at my job
to listen to music. Ugh.
Inside Looking Out is one incredible song.
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:03:13 +0000
From: "Greg Ipp" <gipp@fun.direct.ca>
Subject: Re: Worst bands
> > they haven't made as great an album as Ten, but Vitology was the album
> > that showed they were willing to take chances on performing different
> > styles and to experiment with sounds. At least they were able to risk a
> > bit, and this is more than I could say for the Charlatans. I'm not saying
hmm... are you SURE this is the right thing to say on the Charlatans
mailing list? in any case -- i disagree. and lets end the pearl
jam/charlies comparisons here please (because there are none).
------------------------
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 95 20:55 PST
From: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com)
Subject: Worst bands
> > i must agree with your selections...
> >
> > phish is one of the most over rated bands only following nirvana and pearl jam
> >
> Stop picking on Nirvana. They may not have had the most complex songs,
> but they were a voice to a generation, even though this was more than Kurt
> Cobain could handle. They did become huge, and I regret that. I regret
> it more so when I read comments like the one above. As for Pearl Jam,
> they haven't made as great an album as Ten, but Vitology was the album
> that showed they were willing to take chances on performing different
> styles and to experiment with sounds. At least they were able to risk a
> bit, and this is more than I could say for the Charlatans. I'm not saying
> I like Pearl Jam more than them, but I'm willing to say they are able to
> stick their necks out more often. As for Nirvana, Bleach is brilliant.
> Give it a listen to someday... if you dare.
>
> Dougie
--------------------------
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 13:09:34 PST
From: Ellen Kim <E4KIM@ARTSU1.watstar.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: as per requested: Charlies' Top Tenner
It's a wee bit long and I'm a wee bit lazy, so I'll type out the first
half...something to look forward to on Mon.
"So You Wanna Be a Star?" RAW: Dec 5, 1995.
Just follow these ten, Charlatans-approved easy steps to success:
1. Do some bastard's motor by putting bricks thru his windscreen when
he tells you your band's shit! (Tim, Cardiff, Sept90)
2. Use your mike lead to lasso bottle-throwing member of audience. (Tim,
Texas, Mar91)
3. Go on a world-class bender when your single scrapes a miserable 28 in
the charts. (Mark, every watering hole in the northern hemisphere,
Sept91)
4. Climb on a statue in York's Roman Baths and be ejected for your
troubles. Then do self-same thing in Battersea Park and get fined 500
notes for not having learnt the first time. (Tim, Mar92)
5. Have a punch-up between band members after keyboardist blows up organ
four nights running. (The lot of `em, Manchester, Jun94)
...next half later.
cheers, El
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 20:09:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Ioanna Kotsogiannis <iwavva@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Worst band in the world
On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote:
> Hey I got the two worst bands ever. Even worse than the Beatles.
>
> 1) Grateful Dead
> 2) Phish
Lee,
once again you are right. I HATE these bands. I've got one more band to
add to that list: PIG FACE. Some of my friends are at their concert
today...pathetic.
-Ioanna Kotsogiannis
--------------------------
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 19:29:37 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Q article
Hi all!
Check out a short article about the Charlatans in the December issue of Q
magazine. Tim talks about the success of the new album, Rob's "driving", and
how important for him is to play live for his/their fans...
--------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 23:34:01 +0100 (MET)
From: Trygve Gudmundsen <trygu@stud2.misjonshs.no>
Subject: Charlatans mailinglist Archive
http://stud2.misjonshs.no/charlie/charlatans-archive.9511.gz
This is not a complete archive though (only from 15 of November)
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