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Welcome to TraxWeekly #54.

This week, we feature more in-depth music reviews from our dedicated
review crew, headed by Kal Zakath. Also, Faces in the Crowd has a large
showing this week, featuring interviews with Saxy/XX, Quantam Porcupine,
Scirocco, and a dual interview with Injekted and Subhuman about their new
group, Ultrabeat!

Please remember that when submitting articles for publication in Trax
Weekly, they MUST be formatted for 76 columns, with a space preceding each
line. I'm getting tired for formatting people's articles and correcting
spelling for them. =) In the interest of raising the quality of this
publication, I would suggest we all pay closer attention to our writing.

See you next week!

Gene Wie (Psibelius)
TraxWeekly Publishing
gwie@owl.csusm.edu


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General Articles

1. New Music Reviews.............................The Review Crew
2. Originality in Music..........................Dynamis
3. Programme Elements............................Dynamis

Faces in the Crowd

4. Interview with Saxy...........................Kal Zakath
5. Interview with Quantam Porcupine..............Zinc
6. Interview with Scirocco.......................Zinc
7. Interview with Injekted and Subhuman..........Cerulean

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--[1. New Music Reviews]---------------------------------[The Review Crew]--

Welcome back to another TraxWeekly music review column... We have
quite a few tunes for you this week, to make up for our brief hiatus in
TW 53. :> Also, note that Kleitus has aided me with these reviews and
ratings, and will continue to do so in the future... (Actually, he's been
helping me out for a while, I've just been forgetting to credit him...) :>

Anyway, as always, I hope we succeed in our two main goals... To
provide composers with detailed feedback on their compositions, and to
encourage music scene fans to listen to some nice tunes (helping them out
in their search for quality). :> Unfortunately, my comments might be a
bit sparse this week, as I did the ratings a while ago but am typing up
the full reviews sorta at the last minute. :> If any of my comments are
unclear, or you'd like more a detailed critique, feel free to e-mail me. :>

- Kal Zakath / Inferno Productions -
(editor of TraxWeekly's new music reviews department)
[e-mail: jtownsen@sescva.esc.edu * IRC: 'jtown']

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summary of music reviewed this week
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astrid - mick rippon [95%]
jasmine tea - lord blanka the black / terraformer [84%]
kanamon worms - lord blank the black / terraformer [83%]
wenn das wasser - doj / cubic team [66%]
the ballad of romeo - doj / cubic team [73%]
groovus mentus - aahz the demon / carcass pc [81%]

music which will be reviewed next week
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existing (.xm) - mick rippon
autoemotive (musicdisk) - liam the lemming
(sorry lemm, but i hope you can understand that reviewing a whole
musicdisk takes more time and effort than just an individual song.
i've already started the review though, so it will definitely be in
next week. :>)
shattered skye - catspaw / rat
and others, of course... :>

review - 'astrid' by mick rippon
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style: light rock - piano/guitar
duration: 4m25s
patterns: 35 orders

date of release: march 31, 1996
where to get: HORNET [/incoming/music/songs/xm/mr_strid.zip]
composer's e-mail: rip@hunterlink.net.au

(review by kal zakath and kleitus)

- [ technical: 95% ] -
- [ samples: 97% ] -
- [ originality: 90% ] - -== [ OVERALL: 95% ] ==-
- [ form: 93% ] -
- [ personal: 96% ] -

well, another mick rippon tune is my personal favorite song of the week. :>
not surprisingly, of course, as mick is one of the most talented composers
in the scene these days, and one of my favorite active composers. 'astrid'
is an absolutely beautiful tune in all respects. :> mick told me on #trax
that he has never seriously played the piano, but one could _never_ tell
that from this tune, as he his use of it in this tune (perhaps the best
piano sample i've ever heard, too) is nothing short of superb. add to that
some excellent guitar leads and near-perfect orchestration, and you get a
tune that must be heard by all. :> what else can i say? go get it, if you
haven't already... :>

review - 'jasmine tea' by lord blanka the black / terraformer
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style: guitar / realism
duration: 3m28s
patterns: 21 orders

date of release: 1996
where to get: HORNET [/music/songs/1996/it/j/jasmine.zip]
composer's e-mail: terra@wizard.net

(review by kal zakath and kleitus)

- [ technical: 84% ] -
- [ samples: 90% ] -
- [ originality: 82% ] - -== [ OVERALL: 84% ] ==-
- [ form: 80% ] -
- [ personal: 84% ] -

the first of two tunes sent to me by blanka, 'jasmine tea' is an excellent
tune which appears to have been inspired by necros' guitar tunes. this
tune has a nice chord progression, and excellent leads. the sample set is
also very well-chosen, and the instruments work well with each other. the
only significant flaw i found was in the beginning. it would have been
better to fade the chords in/out on different channels, to keep them from
being cut off. overall, this tune was a very nice piece, however.
congrats to blanka for excellent work. :>

review - 'kanamon worms' by lord blanka the black / terraformer
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style: new age (?)
duration: 3m20s
patterns: 26 orders

date of release: 1996
where to get: HORNET [/music/songs/1996/it/k/kanamon.zip]
composer's e-mail: terra@wizard.net

(review by kal zakath and kleitus)

- [ technical: 82% ] -
- [ samples: 88% ] -
- [ originality: 82% ] - -== [ OVERALL: 83% ] ==-
- [ form: 84% ] -
- [ personal: 77% ] -

the second of lord blanka's tunes, 'kanamon worms' is a more new age-ish
work. i preferred the style of 'jasmine tea' to this one, but this too is
also a composition of high quality. the chords are nice once again,
although there is not much of a melody... the piano was done quite well,
but seemed a bit too loud at times, and also did not seem to fit in with
the rest of the samples. the percussion work, however, was excellent...
this tune has the same minor problem with the chords that 'jasmine tea'
had... they would have been much nicer if they were faded in and out with
volume slides. overall, though, another nice work by blanka, even if it's
not my preferred style...

review - 'wenn das wasser' by doj / cubic team
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style: acid
duration: 3m20s
patterns: 49 orders

date of release: jan 1996
where to get: HORNET [/incoming/music/songs/xm/wasser.zip]
composer's e-mail: doj@tecs.de

(review by kal zakath and kleitus)

- [ technical: 57% ] -
- [ samples: 82% ] -
- [ originality: 65% ] - - [ OVERALL: 66% ] -
- [ form: 57% ] -
- [ personal: 59% ] -

this is the first of two songs that were sent to me by doj of cubic team.
'wasser' is an acid tune, which is fairly nicely done... the samples are
very high-quality, which is always important to this style of music...
unfortunately, this tune suffers from a common problem, lack of variety.
in a song of this style, it is important to vary the riffs and drum tracks
to avoid repetition. doj has managed to succeed in this somewhat, but
there is still not enough variation through the whole course of this tune.
this tune is not without its 'sweet spots', though (the ending was quite
nice), and doj certainly shows enough potential that i would be willing to
listen to future tunes of his. :>

review - 'the ballad of romeo' by doj / cubic team
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style: ambient
duration: about 4min
patterns: 25 orders

date of release: mar 1996
where to get: HORNET [/incoming/music/songs/xm/ballad.zip]
composer's e-mail: doj@tecs.de

(review by kal zakath and kleitus)

- [ technical: 70% ] -
- [ samples: 85% ] -
- [ originality: 73% ] - -== [ OVERALL: 73% ] ==-
- [ form: 70% ] -
- [ personal: 65% ] -

this is the second tune by doj, and i enjoyed it a bit more than 'wasser'.
entitled 'the ballad of romeo', this tune is a bit more my style. it opens
nicely with atmospheric sfx (a rainstorms) and develops into a nice mellow
ambient tune. it suffers from repetition as well, but the chords and
acoustic guitars are fairly nice. this is a nice background tune, as it
creates a nice atmosphere, and remains very pleasing to the ear throughout,
due to a nice mix of instruments, and the occasional sfx. a pretty nice
work overall. :>

review - 'groovus mentus' by aahz the demon / carcass pc
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style: jazzy
duration: 4m30s
patterns: 32 orders

date of release: feb 1996
where to get: HORNET [/music/songs/1996/xm/g/ccs-gmen.zip]
composer's e-mail: D.Fitches@CIMtegration.COM

(reviewed by kal zakath and kleitus)

- [ technical: 80% ] -
- [ samples: 80% ] -
- [ originality: 84% ] - -== [ OVERALL: 81% ] ==-
- [ form: 81% ] -
- [ personal: 82% ] -

i had this song in my directory to review this tune for a while, but it
somehow slipped by me. when i saw it get a '**' rating by one of the
hornet reviewers, though, i felt that i should set the record straight. :>
jazz is a hard style to successfully compose in a tracker, but aahz had
done a very nice job of it. :> i very much enjoyed listening to 'groovus
mentus'... the samples are nice, and aahz uses piano and percussion very
well. my favorite parts were the piano solos, and the excellent flute
leads. very nice work by aahz. :>

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--[2. Originality in Music]--------------------------------------[Dynamis]--

Kal Zakath in his article writes the following statements:

> 1) Originality is important, but you should first judge a tune on its
> own merit. Not everything original is good. Not everything
> 'unoriginal' is bad.
>
> 2) Good music comes first, originality second. Some people manage
> both, and their music is brilliant (Dizzy/CNCD comes immediately
> to mind). But if I had to choose between an overall quality tune
> and a lower quality but more 'original' tune, can you guess which
> one I would rather listen to? Call me crazy, I guess...

Yes, originality is important. I am assuming composers are writing music
for themselves and the satisfaction they gain from it (e.g. "art for art's
sake"), though this is not the case. Assuming the last statement to be
true and realizing every person is different, each composer should have a
unique style. Copycats are those who have not yet defined their own
style. We compose from the heart but also from what we have experienced
(in terms of music). One who has not heard the Indian pan flute is not
likely to write for it. Originality in a piece of music is a function of
how an artist can incorporate his ideas into a format (music in this case)
he can project. For some, notes are all they needs to relay his ideas.
Others can project their musical ideas through a given form - Purple
Motion's synthy demo style, for example.

> Yep, originality rules the scene these days... Where else can a 1:30
> long Warner Brothers-esque symphonic tune win a compo with 2000 votes
> more than one of the overall best tracked songs I've ever heard?

A 1:30 long tune can win a compo over one of the best tracks Kal has heard
because other people voting obviously did not share the same sentiments.
In making a case against originality, Kal Zakath seems to be promoting
conformity. He seems to say that we should all stick to the "tried and
true". Why should musicians not explore areas outside this? The reason
listeners tire of music by Purple Motion and Lizardking is not because they
are unreasonable, but because the style became tedious and overused.
Musicians looked for other ways to relay their ideas. Yes, it is ignorant
to shrug off an entire base of quality music from composers such as Purple
Motion and Lizardking, but it is also important to look towards the future
and not forget that composers today are just as capable of producing the
same quality music as composers of an earlier era.

I am not a big fan of symphonic tunes (tracked, that is), but I believe
that every style should be used. Musicians should not fall into the
thinking that since one particular style is consistently scoring well at
compos, they should adapt their music to this style. Musicians who track
in the style they like may not win themselves any awards, but they will
have succeeded for themselves.

John Wells (Dynamis/nuthin :)
jowells@vt.edu

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--[3. Programme elements]----------------------------------------[Dynamis]--

I have been looking through my song collection, seeing songs with such
titles as "Worldwide Slack" and "Hybernaculum". It seems that some
trackers are trying to stick a cool sounding name on their song. I fell
prey to it myself. Two words sound cool, and they sound cool together, so
why not name a song to it? I question the value of such a method of
nomenclature. The song should suggest a name. The composer should be able
to write on what the song means to him - what it suggests. If the composer
is trying to evoke an emotion with a title, there should be a word or phrase
that fittingly defines the song.

In the same manner, the text fields can be used give the song an explicit
programmatic theme. Composers of yore were never that spoiled. Trackers
can write pages (using an S3M text field) on their song if their purpose is
to direct the listener to a line of thinking. Two excellent songs that use
this to great advantage are "Point of Departure" by Necros, and "Rhythm
Seclusion" by Siren. The former describes how he was feeling when the
inspiration came to him (an excellent way of evoking the same emotion in
the listener), and the latter suggests situations to the listener to
imagine himself in while the song is playing.

I am by no means suggesting that every song needs to have such programmatic
elements (suggestive elements) or even characteristic elements, but the
possibility for even telling a story during the song is a unique feature to
module trackers. This feature is a great advantage if used properly.

John Wells (dynamis)
jowells@vt.edu

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--[4. Interview with Saxy]------------------------------------[Kal Zakath]--

This week we have interviews for you, which I realize is something
we haven't done in a long time... We've been concentrating on reviewing
lately, and interviews -- our original focus back in the 'faces in the
crowd' days -- have unfortunately been neglected. However, we're back on
track, at least for one week, to provide a little change of pace. :> This
week I interviewed Saxy, one of the members of XX (the scene's only
all-female musicgroup :>). She recently released her first tune, 'Symphony
in her Mind', which is also the very first song she has tracked. I was
impressed with what she had done in her first composition, and so this
interview followed... :> I think it turned out quite well, actually, so
I hope all TraxWeekly readers will enjoy reading it. :>

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- <jtown> - Kal Zakath [Inferno & TraxWeekly] = jtownsen@sescva.esc.edu
- <Saxy> - Saxy [XX] = cdr001@ns1.wmc.car.md.us
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(note: the following interview has gone through a bit of editing for the
sake of clarity, but is still pretty much the original IRC capture,
with no changes, except where necessary. :>)

<jtown> Okay. Everything seems to be in order, so let's start, shall we?
<Saxy> ok. :)
<jtown> Why don't you start by telling us your real name, age, group affils,
where you go to school, etc. (boring stuff first) :>
<Saxy> Okay, my real name is Courtney Risch, I am 18 and I attend Western
Maryland College in Westminster, Maryland. I'm an English /
Political Science major, and I am a member of XX.
<jtown> ah... :> Let me ask you a few questions about XX. :>
<Saxy> Werd. :)
<jtown> XX is an all-female group, right...? :>
<Saxy> Yep, there are four girls: Skie, Ms. Saigon, Pandorra, and myself.
we are a music group for now, but we hope to find a female coder
someday. We're like sisters... I love being a part of it. :)
<jtown> Werd. :> Who first came up with the idea of starting an all-girl
group?
<Saxy> I think it was MS and Skie who came up with the idea. I'm not sure
how they got it, but I do know that MS has wanted an all girl group
for a long time.
<jtown> Actually, believe it or not, XX might not be the only all-female
group... :> I think that a group of girls entered a demo at
TG96... Did you hear of this? :>
<Saxy> Yes, I did... I think we were trying to get in touch with them,
but that's someone else's market. :)
<jtown> ehehheh. :> Maybe you could team up some time. :> create an
entirely female-produced megademo. :>
<Saxy> That would rule!!!! :)
<jtown> It would certainly be a step forward for all women in the
scene. :>
<Saxy> Definitely. There are only four North American girls active, as
far as we know...
<jtown> Let's talk about your music for a bit... When did you first become
interested in tracking?
<Saxy> I became interested when I met Ms. Saigon, who lives in my suite at
college. She began to show me demos, and I really thought they
were neat... Then she gave me FT2. I got into full swing when I
got IRC on my Internet account and met all of the people there.
<jtown> Before you started tracking, did you have any particular favorite
composers, whose style interested you the most...?
<Saxy> Hmmm... Well, I really didn't know too many beyond the ones that
were MS's favorites. Now that I am more involved, I like the
orchestral composers the best, since that's my department too. Of
course, I like the standard favorites too... like Necros, Siren,
and Basehead.
<jtown> So, how long were you watching demos and hearing the music, before
you decided to try tracking out for yourself?
<Saxy> I saw my first demo in September, and I began to track in February.
<jtown> ah, so you've been tracking for about two months now... What do
you find most challenging about it?
<Saxy> Getting ideas and finding good samples is the trickiest part. I
like tracking better than the traditional writing on paper thing,
because you get to hear it, and the tracker does the bar lines and
measures for you. :)
<jtown> Yes, that is nice... :> I find that I can get sounds out of the
tracker that I could never actually play on a 'real' instrument. :>
<Saxy> Another thing I like is the fact that, unlike on a real piano, you
can hear the way everything sounds together. I have a lot of
trouble playing several parts at once on the piano, and the tracker
takes care of that.
<jtown> werd, when you track, it's like having a whole orchestra at your
disposal -- if you know how to use it. (which is the tough part) :>
<Saxy> That's the best part!
<jtown> Since you mentioned composing on paper, bar lines, measures, etc.
am I correct in guessing that you've had some sort of history with
composition/theory before you started tracking?
<Saxy> Not really, actually. I used to try to write stuff down, but it
got messed up. My first song was actually something I tried to
write down in 1993, but I kept it in my head because it didn't look
right on paper.
<jtown> Let me just say, that although you're still a 'newbie' at tracking,
your music certainly has a nice sound to it. :> What do you feel
are your personal strengths and weaknesses when it comes to
tracking?
<Saxy> My strengths are arpeggios and the ability to use orchestral stuff
in my music. My weaknesses are that I can not do anything right
with synthesizer stuff, and I need to learn how to do percussion.
<jtown> Yes, percussion can be tricky. :> And i've noticed that the
traditional demo-music, though one of the easiest styles to track,
is one of the hardest to track _well_, because you really have to
be skilled at many aspects of composition to create a high quality,
unique synth-tune...
<Saxy> Yes, and mine always sound like cheesy rip-offs of someone else's
stuff. That's why I prefer orchestrals... Not as many people do
them, so they are unique.
<jtown> Yep, I think 90% of the scene would agree with you there. :>
<Saxy> About the rip-offs or the lack of orchestral writers?
<jtown> About orchestral being 'unique' and therefore a more desirable
style. That's why Skaven is #1 in the Imphobia charts. :>
<Saxy> werd. :)
<jtown> Even if lamers like me disagree... :>
<jtown> But anyway, let's head back to the girls-in-the-scene subject... :>
<Saxy> ok, shoot. :)
<jtown> Some might say that being a girl in the scene is difficult, because
there are so few... Others might say that it's easier to be a
girl, since the guys are so eager to see some ladies hanging out on
#trax and such. :> Do you feel that you personally, as a girl, have
had a harder or easier time than most, as far as being accepting
into the #trax and demoscene 'community'...?
<Saxy> I feel like I was very readily received into the "family". People
have been very accepting of me, and I really enjoy spending time
with all of my friends here!
<Saxy> I don't want people to think that I'm only there to pick up guys,
though. I've got just as much legit reason for being there as
anyone else...
<jtown> Don't worry, I'm sure nobody thinks that. :>
<Saxy> Relationships may happen, but if they do, they do. :)
<jtown> :>
<jtown> Let's move to another topic... You'll be attending NAID, correct?
<Saxy> Yep, I'll be at NAID. :)
<jtown> Are you planning to enter the music compo?
<Saxy> I want to compete in the music compo... In fact, I dreamed a song
idea last night and tapped out the melody on the piano this morning
so I think that will be my entry.
<jtown> heh. :> Lucky you... I've dreamed of song ideas, but never been
able to remember them long enough to get to my piano (or FT2). :>
<Saxy> It was a vocal piece, but I'm leaving the vocals out for NAID.
<jtown> Hmmm.. :> Vocals would add an interesting aspect to the tune. :>
Maybe you should consider putting them in for NAID, it would
certainly grab voters' attentions...?
<Saxy> Since it was a vocal piece, I was able to write the words... I am a
poet too... and then fit lyrics to the words I came up with.
<jtown> Werd. :> Maybe in the future, after you have been tracking for a
while, we will get to hear your tunes with your lyrics too...?
That would be nice, because not many trackers do that... :>
<Saxy> I plan to release it with the lyrics, regardless of whether or not
they are done for NAID. :>
<jtown> Speaking of the NAID music compo, last year they played _all_ the
songs. :> It was certainly a brave effort to be fair to all...
<Saxy> Yes, but I hear they won't do that this year.
<jtown> Right, that's just where I was going with this... :> This year,
following the lead of the more traditional compos, they're having a
preselection 'jury'.
<jtown> What do you think of the idea of a 5-7 person jury picking out 20
songs, and only that, to be played for all to hear?
<Saxy> Well, MS said that last year the music compo was really long, so
it might be better if they don't play all of the songs. But they
should still have some way for people to hear the other songs that
didn't get picked for the compo.
<jtown> Or agree not to release the tunes, so the composers can save them
for another compo, like MC4...
<Saxy> That's a good idea also. I am working on something for MC4 too,
and it's near completion, but I don't want to give that one away
either. :)
<jtown> I also heard from Mr. Khan, although I'm not sure if this is
definite yet, that the voting on the 20 'finalist' tunes will not
be completely public... Public votes will account for only part
of the voting, the rest will be 'ratings' given by the jury...
Do you agree with this type of voting process?
<Saxy> Hmmmm... That means there is more room for the panel's prejudices
to be involved. If the panel likes someone, for instance, they
have a better chance of winning than a lesser-known person with an
equally good song. No, I don't think it's quite fair.
<jtown> werd, I don't either... :( if even one jury member has a bias
against a certain style, it could hurt a tune's chances. But
enough about NAID, we'll just have to wait and see what happens. :>
<jtown> I'm beginning to run out of questions, but before we finish this
interview, let's quickly touch upon a more general topic. :> Try
to look about a year in the future. What direction do you think
you -- and the entire demoscene -- will take?
<Saxy> I think that 1) There will be more girls, 2) I will expand my style
to include synthesizers, and 3) We'll all be having a lot of
fun. :)
<jtown> werd to all three of those, I hope they all can happen. :>
<jtown> Before we end this, is there anything else you'd like to say to the
readers of TraxWeekly? :>
<Saxy> Yes... I'd like everyone to know that I got my nick because I play
baritone and alto saxophone, and I have been playing for 10 years.
Some people think I picked it just to pick up guys. :)
<jtown> ehehhehehe. :>
<jtown> Well, I think we have enough to work with now. :>
<Saxy> Cool. I am honored. :) Thank you very much. :)
<jtown> no, thank _you_. :> I very much enjoyed this interview. :>
<Saxy> I enjoyed it too. :)

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...and I hope all of you TraxWeekly readers enjoyed this interview as
well. Thanks once again to Saxy for agreeing to be interviewed here in
TraxWeekly. :>
If there are any other aspiring musicians who would like an interview,
please feel free to contact me... If your music has potential, I'll be
happy to give you an interview. :> Also, if you just have any questions or
comments on my interviewing process - if you'd like to see more interviews,
less interviews, different questions asked, or whatever :> just let me
know. I'm not an expert at this by any means, and I'd like very much to
hear feedback from TW readers out there. :>

- kal zakath / inferno
[jtownsen@sescva.esc.edu * irc: 'jtown']

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--[5. Interview with Quantam Porcupine]-----------------------------[Zinc]--

<zinc> Hello QP

<QPorcupine> wewp, i'm a topic :)
<QPorcupine> hehe :)

<zinc> What's up?

<QPorcupine> nothing much
<QPorcupine> i'm running Lemmings in Executor/X right now but that's
about it :)

<zinc> :) Okay, well we might as well get on with the interview.

<QPorcupine> oh, sure, make me end my game :)
<QPorcupine> ok :)

<zinc> First of all, please state all the info-jazz like your
real name, age, grade/job, etc. etc..

<QPorcupine> Real name: Joshua Shagam, age 17, freshman at
New Mexico State University
<QPorcupine> Computer Science major at the moment

<zinc> Do you have any musical credentials other than tracking?

<QPorcupine> Yeah, I took piano lessons for 8 years
<QPorcupine> of my own free will no less :)
<QPorcupine> I started when I was 5 (can you figure out when I stopped? :)
<QPorcupine> and I started composing (for the piano) when I was 7.

<zinc> :D So you must have picked tracking up pretty fast, eh?

<QPorcupine> Yeah. My first "tracking" was with Music COnstruction
Set on the C64. <sighs wistfully> :)

<zinc> Heheh, I was just about to ask how you got started tracking.
How did you learn about the tracking scene?

<QPorcupine> I didn't do any what could be really called tracking
until 1992 when I found Whacker Tracker.
<QPorcupine> (that was finishing the previous question :)
<QPorcupine> anyway, i found out about the tracking scene because my
first soundcard, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16, came with a
large collection of .MOD files.
<QPorcupine> I thought they were pretty cool, and when I found whacker
tracker (see above), I got working with it right away. :)

<zinc> What trackers did you use since then, and what are you using now?

<QPorcupine> Well, if I hadn't heard Klisje Paa Klisje, I probably
wouldn't have hunted .MOD-related stuff down.
<QPorcupine> Well, I tried MODedit but didn't like it (too user-friendly :)
<QPorcupine> I found ScreamTracker 3.01 on AOL and have used that since.
<QPorcupine> Well, v3.21 now :)
<QPorcupine> (Yes, I used to be on AOL. :)
<QPorcupine> (Back when it was decent. :)
<QPorcupine> (Sorta. :)

<zinc> What style of music do you like to track the most?

<QPorcupine> Hmmm... well, I've never done any particular "style."
<QPorcupine> I've always wanted to do stuff like Purple Motion's
earlier stuff, like Inside Out or Sundance.
<QPorcupine> But it never comes out quite right. :)
<QPorcupine> Anyway, I just kinda do what comes to mind.

<zinc> Well, perhaps a better question would be this: What style of
music influences you works? As in tracked, as well as non-tracked?

<QPorcupine> Ahhh, I see... well, I don't hunt down tracked music much.
<QPorcupine> My main influences are the Beatles, Phish, and Matthew Sweet.
<QPorcupine> I also like Mozart, Beethoven and a little Bach.
<QPorcupine> However, most of my songs seem to make fun of whatever song
is being overplayed on the radio at the moment. :)

<zinc> Do you have any thoughts/opinions on the number of channels
one uses? (Using too many channels, etc..)

<QPorcupine> For example, "On That Happy Note" is making fun of
Fingernails (by Foo fighters :)
<QPorcupine> okay, for channels, I've always preferred when people
optimize it for as few as possible.
<QPorcupine> One of my favorite PM songs is Minimum Velocity because he
fit it all into just 2 channels.
<QPorcupine> I can't stand people who use 16 or 32 channels myself.
<QPorcupine> Well, there are exceptions of course. :)
<QPorcupine> When they're all put to good use, they're, well, put to
good use. :)

<zinc> Yes, of course :)

<QPorcupine> FOr example, "Me Tarzan, You Jane" by MiG / Weird Magic.

<zinc> Speaking of trackers, are there any who have really impressed
you over the duration of your time in the scene? Attitudes,
as well as talent.

<QPorcupine> Yes. MiG has been VERY cool. His music is pretty good,
and he's always been a pretty good friend.
<QPorcupine> He always sends me prototypes of his music for example.
<QPorcupine> Necros is also pretty cool.
<QPorcupine> It would be cooler if he'd actually listen to some of my
music, but otherwise... :)

<zinc> You live in USA; what are your thoughts on the gap between
European and American trackers? (Canadians too, even :)

<QPorcupine> Hehe... :)
<QPorcupine> About the gap, well, since I don't really hunt down music
(it usually ends up in my mailbox, thanks to MiG :) I
really don't know.
<QPorcupine> I mean, if I were to judge all of European music on MiG,
then I'd say it were all REALLY good :)
<QPorcupine> As for American music, I listen to even less of that.
<QPorcupine> Most of the tracked music I hear is via demos.

<zinc> Fair enough, then. Where do you intend you take your music?
Do you have any particular goals in the near future?

<QPorcupine> Hmmm... well, I'm trying to move to semi-acoustic stuff
and more mellow.
<QPorcupine> I'm reworking my first S3M for example.
<QPorcupine> It's a mellow guitar/flute thingy.

<zinc> Do you ever remix other people's work?

<QPorcupine> Well, I've remixed a couple of radio songs.
<QPorcupine> I remixed Lightning Crashes by Live as a birthday present
for my brother...
<QPorcupine> I remixed the hidden track on Smash (by Offspring)...
<QPorcupine> I also remixed Come Out and Play by Offspring, but only to
make my little parody of it
<QPorcupine> "Keep Refridgerated" :)
<QPorcupine> Which I never got around to finishing (no, I'm not
releasing it as .S3M :)

<zinc> Are there any other people in 'real-life' who have heard your music?
<zinc> besides those who don't have a choice in the matter :D

<QPorcupine> Oh, hehe :)
<QPorcupine> ummm...
<QPorcupine> well...
<QPorcupine> Not really :)
<QPorcupine> Just people on IRC mostly
<QPorcupine> the ones who I bug to go to my webpage to download my stuff :)

<zinc> Here's a tip: track a song for your girlfriend (if you have
one).. It usually goes over quite well :)
<zinc> haha

<QPorcupine> That's a pretty big "if" (i.e. having a girlfriend :)

<zinc> :) uhh... Anyways, this brings me to the 'fun' part of the
interview.

<QPorcupine> All righty then... :)

<zinc> First: If you could make any one person in the world listen to
your music (deities excluded) who would it be?

<QPorcupine> Hmmm... John Lennon. Wait, no, that falls under 'deities.'
<QPorcupine> I dunno...
<QPorcupine> Maybe just get my songs on the radio until it gets stuck
in everyone's heads :)
<QPorcupine> "High On Prozac" for example. :)

<zinc> Okay, next question: If you were attacked by a school of killer
sharks, what song would you play while you attempt a getaway?
(let's assume they can hear it underwater!)

<QPorcupine> Ummm... hold on a sec...
<QPorcupine> I don't think I have any music which would soothe sharks.
<QPorcupine> :)

<zinc> Too bad for you :) I suggest you find some, just in case!

<QPorcupine> Hmmm...

<zinc> Anyways, next question..

<QPorcupine> Is this a frequent problem for you? :)

<zinc> Actually, if you replace 'sharks' with FBI agents, then yes :)

<QPorcupine> Ahhh...in that case, "Dinosaur Act" by Matthew Sweet works. :)

<zinc> Third question: Frutopia or Snapple?

<QPorcupine> Oh dear... Fruitopia and Snapple are both good... it
depends on what mood I'm in. :)

<zinc> We're nearing the end, so please thank or spank anyone you wish
now.

<QPorcupine> Ummm, MiG, Mellow-D, Rabite Man (for idolizing me :), etc.
etc. :)

<zinc> Where can we find your works?

<QPorcupine> Okay, http://web.nmsu.edu/~jshagam will take you to a link
to where it should be available, although where it really is
is kinda flaky.
<QPorcupine> The full address (currently) is
http://infinity.beve.blacksburg.va.us/~porcpine
<QPorcupine> I use it mainly because there's no 5 meg quota :)

<zinc> Hehe :) Okay then QP, what is your email so people can harass you?

<QPorcupine> jshagam@nmsu.edu
<QPorcupine> i like being harrassed
<QPorcupine> i've only gotten like 5 emails a day lately
<QPorcupine> please give me more :)

<zinc> aha :) Okay QP, thanks for the interview, we'll chat again
sometime :)

<QPorcupine> Okay, hehe :)
<QPorcupine> thanks :)
<QPorcupine> BTW, my alias is Quantum Porcupine
<QPorcupine> in case you didn't know that :)
<QPorcupine> I'm also on the #trax people page in case you forget my
link etc.

<zinc> haha, ok :)

<QPorcupine> I also code :)
<QPorcupine> I can also play two recorders through my nose
simultaneously. :)

<zinc> uh.. okay :) this interview is over, get it!
<zinc> haha

<QPorcupine> oh, okay :)
<QPorcupine> hehe :)
<QPorcupine> l8rz :)

<zinc> bye

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--[6. Interview with Scirocco]--------------------------------------[Zinc]--

<zinc> Hello Scirocco

<Scirocco> Ok, just a sec, let me get my windows organized
<Scirocco> Alright, I am ready now...hehe

<zinc> Okay :)

<Scirocco> :)

<zinc> Where are you from, first of all?

<Scirocco> From..meaning where am do I spend most of my time (school)
or where did I grow up?

<zinc> Well, I mean on the globe, where are you?

<Scirocco> I am in New York City, smack in the center of Manhattan Island.
<Scirocco> I only go to school here though, I went to highschool in
Billings, Montana.

<zinc> Okay :) So it must be almost 5 am then eh?

<Scirocco> No, Just after 4:am
<Scirocco> :)

<zinc> Okay, well, we'll understand if you blabber on incomprehensibly!

<Scirocco> :) hehe
<Scirocco> I'll try to be more comprehensible (hard at 4:00am!).

<zinc> Please tell the readers a little about yourself. Just a general
description, such as real name, age, education, pets,
toenail length.. etc...

<Scirocco> Real name: Ian Lyman AGE: 20 Sex: Male Education: Film
Production Major at New York University Pets: 1 cat,
Stormer Toenail length: 3mm

<zinc> Okay, cool. How long have you been tracking?

<Scirocco> I have been tracking for 3 years. I started in 93 when I got
my first SBPRO and spent a hundred bucks on Bram Graveland's
Tetra Compositor 4 channel tracker.

<zinc> Well, I have never heard of you, so where have you been hiding?
:) Any groups in the past?

<Scirocco> I moved up to MTM for awhile, and then discovered
fasttracker2 early last year.
<Scirocco> Well, I've been around pretty steady for the last year.
I haven't been hiding, but have not affiliated myself with
any group (at least permanently). I have released about
12 tunes (maybe more) and have the distinction of having
the only XM on ftp.cdrom.com with a rating of 5 stars.
<Scirocco> Although I think that I really didn't deserve it..
<Scirocco> Everyone is always talking about it though...

<zinc> wow :) I'm not a FT2 fan, so that's probably why I haven't heard
of you. What musical background did you have before tracking?

<Scirocco> Well, I played the violin from age 5 until 7th grade. I
started playing the Saxopone in 4th grade still play quite
a bit today. I was a total "band-fag" in highschool and
was in Jazz band and all of that. Jazz/Blues is really what
I focus on with my sax.

<Scirocco> Not an FT2 fan? Why not?

<zinc> LOL! er.. Well let's not get into the tracker debate :)

<Scirocco> Good idea :)

<zinc> What advice would you give new trackers trying to break into
the scene?

<Scirocco> Well, since I haven't exactly Broken into the scene all
that much myself, but have lurked on the sidelines for so
long, my advice stems more from what I wish I had done
rather than what my experience has actually been. I would
say that, for someone to break into the scene, the most
important thing is quality. Don't upload tunes unless you
are really proud of them. The second most important thing
is networking. Spend as much time on #trax as possible.
<Scirocco> you're name=your name

<zinc> Have you done much/any game tunes?

<Scirocco> Are you going to edit this or just quote everything verbatim?
<Scirocco> I have not done any game tunes, although I hope to at some
point.

<zinc> I leave most stuff in tact...

<Scirocco> My english/spelling/grammar is pretty ????ty right now (sleepy).

<zinc> What styles do you like to do the most?

<Scirocco> I prefer technopop, industrial, classical, and your
standard rock rock kind of rock

<zinc> So then, what musical influences do you have? tracked, as well as
non-tracked?

<Scirocco> Tracked Musical Influences: Purple Motion, LizardKing,
Basehead (I'm thinking)

<zinc> And non-tracked?

<Scirocco> More tracked influences: The Krakken
<Scirocco> Non-Tracked: KMFDM, Machines of Loving Grace, Enya, Loreena
McKennitt, Depeche Mode, U2, Wagner, Beethoven, Dvorak, Utah
Saints, Single Gun Theory
<Scirocco> Oh, and Meat Beat Manifesto

<zinc> Nice variety there :)

<Scirocco> thanks...I am fairly ecclectic in my musical tastes
<Scirocco> Although I do have a certain affinity for Industrial.

<zinc> Okay, then. Now that we sort of know what you sound like, I'm
going to ask you a few questions that may sound quite strange
at first.. Please answer them any way you see fit.

<Scirocco> Ok, Shoot.

<zinc> You are going to lose one of your five senses. Which one
would you want it to be? (Or miss the least)

<Scirocco> I guess it would be smell. It seems like things smell bad
more often than they smell good. Besides, I would ????ing
die if I were deaf, and Blindness would really ???? up my
movie directing ambitions. Touch would be (for obvious
reasons) a pretty ????ty sense to lose, and taste, well,
that would just plain suck giant gooey blobs of ????.

<zinc> Would you trade 5 years off of your life if you could have perfect
health the entire time you are alive?

<Scirocco> Feel free to edit any explitives out of this (i have a bad
tendency to swear when I am tired) :)

<zinc> okay :D

<Scirocco> Yes, I would. I am a total believer in quality of life
rather than quantity.

<zinc> Okay, here's a question regarding the music scene...

<Scirocco> hit me...

<zinc> If you could change one thing in the scene, what would it be?
(No limits!)

<Scirocco> It seems to me that there is, at least to some degree, a gulf
between the european and american ends of the scene. I
would really like to see a little more solidarity between
the US and europe. Granted, we seem to have a lot of
differences, esp. concerning musical styles, but I feel that
we have a lot to learn from eacy other (this sounds cheezy
but I think it is true nontheless)

<zinc> I agree totally. Those Euroz act like snobs sometimes to us NA's.
<zinc> (no offense to them, haha)

<Scirocco> Also, It seems that this gulf is especially apparent between
the "big guys" on the american scene and the "big guys" in the
european scene.

<zinc> Speaking of 'big guys', is there anyone(s) in particular who
have helped you along the way, tracking wise?

<Scirocco> Well actually, I feel that the american's are just as much
at fault. I mean, yes, there is a large contingent of European
musicians that seem very bitter about the fact that the US
has entered into a scene that, until a couple of years ago,
belonged solely to them.
<Scirocco> No, not really. I have sort of kept to my own and not really
had much outside help, aside from picking apart other
tracker's work to figure out how they do what they do.

<zinc> How long have you been hanging out in #trax then?

<Scirocco> I always figured that people like Purple Motion and BaseHead
were probably sick to death of receiving mail from lamers who
were just starting out.
<Scirocco> Tonight is really the first time I have hung out in trax for
more than 10 minutes! I am sure I will around much more from
now on though.

<zinc> Cool :D
<zinc> Okay then, we are nearing the end of the interview, so I'll ask the
regular sum-up questions :)

<Scirocco> Don't ask me why I haven't been around more often, I just
didn't. I hung out on Undernet and played in Mushes.
<Scirocco> ok... :)

<zinc> Where can we find your stuff? Any web pages can also be
mentioned at this time..

<Scirocco> All of my stuff is on ftp.cdrom.com. Some is also on aol.
All of my stuff is linked on my homepage (which I have
recently spent a LOT of time updating recently).
Http://pages.nyu.edu/~igl2670
<Scirocco> My homepage is a good place to find all of my releases, plus
a lot of other interesting things.

<zinc> Anybody you'd like to thank or spank at this time?

<Scirocco> I'd like to thank anyone and everyone that had encouraged
me...esp ParticleX, GliTch, Xerxes, and Tobbe.
<Scirocco> had=has

<zinc> that=who :)

<Scirocco> I'd also like to thank Diablo, for being very patient with
me...:)

<zinc> Okay, and finally, where should we send all that fan mail? :)

<Scirocco> Email: igl2670@is2.nyu.edu
<Scirocco> since you haven't heard my stuff, and are writing this
interview, you should check some of it out..

<zinc> Yes, I will certainly check it out.. it's nice to discover
someone new :) Thank you for allowing me to interview you.

<Scirocco> I enjoyed it. Thanks for interviewing me. It was fun.
Sorry for being a little groggy at this late/early hour..

<zinc> SOK. cya!

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--[7. Interview with Injekted & Subhuman]-----------------------[Cerulean]--

<Cerulean> Interview with members from Ultrabeat - Injekted & Subhuman
after their release of Lucid
Okay .. lets start out with some basic info .. name, age, and
all the extra s---
<Injekted> brandon douglas balliett, 16, legal enlisted raver and general
techno head. :)
<Injekted> oh, and i have a cat named spot, shes kool.
<subhuman> ok, my name is Seth Miller, i'm 17, and I love goa. I live in
<Cerulean> injekted- some older #trax people remember you as Zer0 of
Defiance .. what made you decide to start another group?
err .. tribe. =)
<Injekted> Hi seth.
<Injekted> Ceru: I wasn't really into underground music/raving when i
started defiance.. plus in this group, i actually track..
something i didn't do much of in defiance.
<Cerulean> injekted- so new external interest in music?
<Injekted> Ceru: I'd also like to note that even though the original
conception and name of ultrabeat was thought up of me, i owe
subhuman for pretty much all the support.. so we both founded it.
<Injekted> a 50/50 thing, persay.
<Cerulean> how long ago did you guys come up with this idea?
<subhuman> Ceru: we based the group on the idea of music being the most
important thing .. no coding, no graphics.. just the music
<Injekted> Ceru: Yeah, a new concept in music.. i hadn't listened to much
tracked music until i heard "earthtones" by mentalfloss and got
some awesome acid/breakbeat stuff from cybie.. it was inspiring.
i had faith in the scene again..
<Injekted> Ceru: We came up with the idea roughly a month or so ago.. its
sketchy, lucid wasn't even supposed to be released that early..
it was a rush, we just had a lot of bottled anxiety..
<subhuman> Sybaris is a local, I go to school with him.. he isn't in the
'scene' persay, just writes the music for himself. I basically
asked him if he'd be interested, and to support my efforts in
tracking, he said sure..
<Cerulean> Are you and Sybaris into raving and the underground music scene
like Injekted?
<subhuman> Sybaris is a big raver, yeah, he's really into it. We both are
fanatic about music.. especially trance, and goa.
<subhuman> It is probably the most important thing besides eating to us
both :)
<Injekted> I'm still trying to convert subhuman into a fulltime raver..
unfortunately, the oregon scene just isn't hopping yet. :)
<Cerulean> So tell me more about Lucid .. I heard that already from XDCC
sends on #trax, over 35 people got it, and there has been a lot
of positive feedback..
<Injekted> I'd say total, theres like 60-70 people who have it overnight..
so far no negative feedback.. some thought it was "average", but
some thought it was really incredible..
<subhuman> Sybaris actually wrote Higher and Higher about 2 months ago..
I've personally been trying to track something that would
compliment it, and my track on lucid is my attempt
<Cerulean> What are your current plans now that Lucid has been released?
<Injekted> The track i contributed to lucid wasnt completely finished..
still a few things i would of liked to tweak.. but it fit the
category, so i threw it in there at the last minute..
<Cerulean> sub- so there is you, injekted & sybaris in the group .. anyone
else?
<subhuman> Balrog.Ca, Sybaris, Injekted, subhuman
<Injekted> Well, i really really want to make some acid/acid house.. fun
stuff like that.. so were releasing an all acid disk called
"Happiness is a 303".. and a 2 song single by sybaris/someone
else soon. =)
<subhuman> that sybaris song is amazing, my favorite tracked song at the
moment, definately something to look out for
<Injekted> The members are sybaris, injekted, subhuman, canned ice, cubik,
and recently joined balrog.. but the details on canned ice are
sketchy, and cubik even sketchier.. hes got his own plans for a
group, so hes probly gonna leave.. we'll most definetly want to
do a co-op with cubik's group.. if things go well, that is. :>
<Cerulean> are you going to limit the groups members or is it going to be
the next epinicion? :-)
<Injekted> Infact, we proposed a 5 member limit.. a small little group with
one goal.. it would be more fun that way..
<Cerulean> I think that is a great way to start out.
<subhuman> and lots of co-ops, working together
<Injekted> Woo.. i answered the question before you asked it. :>
<Cerulean> too many groups want to be big too quick.
<subhuman> exactly
<Injekted> Yes, currently im working out details for co-op disks with the
swedish underground group dr3amsource, and cubik's new norwegian
group "beam".. we may or may not do those tho.
<Cerulean> do any of you foresee maybe some movement into writing tracks
for outside the scene, possibly at raves or whatever under the
Ultrabeat name?
<subhuman> hm.. good question. Sybaris has played his stuff for a few of
his friends, but he's in it for himself, not for recognition
<Injekted> well.. i dont think MY music personally is good enough to
release to the public.. but sybaris coudl get away with a phat
trance cd anyday.. for the time being, probly just tracker
releases..
<subhuman> i'm still growing, also
<subhuman> that was my first release :)
<Injekted> As subhuman said.. sybaris in it for himself.. were all in it
for ourselves.. we all love music to the point we cant describe.
<Cerulean> you never know .. maybe you will run across a cheap tB-3o3 and
start groovin' out the tewns. :)
<subhuman> that would be rockin' .. a dream
<Injekted> yeah, balrog wants to destroy the earth with reverbed 3o3
sounds.. i like his visions. :)
<Cerulean> so a love for music, 24 hours, 7day a week type of thing.. :)
<Injekted> ceru: yeah, i dont go anywhere without a walkman and house/acid
tapes. =)
<subhuman> that is what Ultrabeat is.. that was the original plan
<Cerulean> how do you guys feel the group fits into the scene compared to
Kosmic, FM, etc?
<Injekted> were trying to cater to the people who like the kinds of music
we make as much as we do.. like, the people who find music
spiritual.. the ravers, foreign techno heads, etc. etc.
<Cerulean> are you planning to use their ideas or go completely different
and try to start a new thing (sounds like your trying to do the
latter..)
<subhuman> It doesn't have the kind of distrobution FM and Kosmic do
<Injekted> FM caters to mainstream tracking.. which i give respect to them,
but i think techno music has a special place in tracking because
its an ideal suit for it.. with good samples, you can make stuff
that sounds like real vinyl..
<subhuman> well, its structurally based on FM.. limited membership, music
only..
<Injekted> as far as kosmic goes.. kosmic is an empire, wanting to appeal
to everyone.. which it does, which is cool.. but we want a group
that people know what there getting when they download..
<Cerulean> anything else you wanna throw in?
<Injekted> now granted, we might not have stuff that sounds like real
vinyl.. but already, people have told us so.. i disagree, right
now.. but i think groups like radical rhythms and hbe have
supreme stuff..
<subhuman> i'll be putting up a Windows Browser compatible web page, at
"www.open.org/seth/ultrabeat" .. all the releases can be grabbed
there..
<Cerulean> but it will just take time to perfect it .. after you get there,
you will reign! :)
<Injekted> ceru: yeah, world domination and such.. one world, one rave. :)
<Cerulean> any plans to attend NAID or other parties?
<subhuman> i want to so badly, but i can't afford it
<Injekted> me? no.. if i went to naid i can just imagine the stack of 400
disks labeled "my techno tune" which will appropriately be an
annoying bleepy song with a rock drum and bass line.
<Cerulean> ahh .. so your not too impressed with 90% of the "techno" stuff
out there? :)
<subhuman> there are lots of bad samples used, that is my main problem with
it
<Injekted> and besides, its too predictable whos gonna win those things.. i
want some guy in plastik clothing and a shirt that sez "I love
acid." to bust in the NAID place and give them some module thats
so hot everyone gets up and dances.. that would be a party.
<Injekted> I guess thats all to be said, unless you have one last question..
<Cerulean> You mean you don't wanna start dancing to "Ascent of the Cloud
Eagle ][" ?: )
<Injekted> ascent of the cloud eagle ii? Wait.. what the f--- is that? =)
<Cerulean> I just covered the bases .. I guess we could go into favorite
foods or something, but that isn't all that concerned with the
interview. :)
<Cerulean> injekted- hehe
<Cerulean> Any last minute infos on how to contact members of Ultrabeat?
<subhuman> www.open.org/seth/ultrabeat -- contacts, and releases in graphic
form
<Injekted> yeah, mail me and seth... injekted@host.yab.com and
subhuman@teleport.com. :>
<Injekted> preferably send comments and kool modules. :>
<subhuman> werd
<Cerulean> sounds good! :) Thanks for taking the time to do this
interview! =)
<subhuman> n/p, keep ravin'!
<Injekted> and as a close.. i'd just like to greet all the underground
groups, ravers, and peace in soul loving individuals out there

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