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Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 22 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 35
Today's Topics:
Advice about MiNT
Anyone interested in a sound saver for the Roland D70.
Darn brevity
Finding the filebase...
GCC 1.40 & GDB
HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter)
Hyperformat disk on a PC
I'd like a CPX to... (2 msgs)
PD C compilers for ST
Prnt from GCR to SLM605
Sozobon 1.33i vs. Sozobon 2.0 (extras) (3 msgs)
Sozobug 1.33i
Start Subscriptions
Tips for high-speed modem use?
To anyone stuck in DM or CSB
TOS 2.06 upgrade for Mega STE
Turboass
WANTED Cheap ST
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Date: 22 Jan 92 13:46:21 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!ucacmsu@uunet.uu.net (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Subject: Advice about MiNT
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <7877@tamsun.tamu.edu> n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann) writes:
>I want to delve into MiNT.
>
>What version should I install? Where should I get installation instructions?
The latest version is 0.93, though I'm not sure if this has made it onto
atari.archive yet. The installation instructions come with it.
>
>What I am hoping that I will gain with MiNT is the ability to do file
>transfer in the background while I use the computer in the foreground.
>
>What is a good "C" and "C++" to use under MiNT? I have Sozobon and Laser C.
The best compiler to use at the moment is GCC, though Dave Gymer is working
on a set of libraries for Sozobon (he's lost half his memory until his SST
arrives from Gadgets.. Necessity is the mother of invention). Laser C is a
bit of a dead loss in this area.
>
>Do any MiNT users use TeX and LaTeX? If so, what version of TeX do
>you use under MiNT?
>
>Thanks much.
>Mark Lehmann
>tamuts.tamu.edu!n160ao
I hope this helps a little.
Steve
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Date: 22 Jan 92 11:46:31 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!ahds!geert@uunet.uu.net (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS)
Subject: Anyone interested in a sound saver for the Roland D70.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi musicians,
While developing a performance, patch and tone editor for the Roland
D70 synthesizer, I already succeeded a program that receives and saves
the performance, patch,tone and parameters of the D70.
Of course this program can also send the parameters back
to the D70. Now you can edit your patches and tones,
without bothering of loosing (original) patches.
A very helpfull utility, right?
When someone is interested, I will post it to rec.music.synth, or
I will upload the program to atari.archive.umich.edu (if I know
how to do this). Please let me now, if you are interested, or
when you know how to upload programs to a.a.u.e.
Geert.
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============ Geert W.T. Jonkheer. =============
========== Ahold N.V. The Netherlands geert@ccsds.ahold.nl ==========
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Date: 22 Jan 92 12:14:43 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!rosenkra@arizona.edu
(William Rosenkranz)
Subject: Darn brevity
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan21.205846.29303@syscon.rn.com> carl@syscon.rn.com (Carl
Kreider) writes:
>That sounds right for Alcyon but pretty strong for GNU. MegaMax is about
>1100 - 1600 for GNU seems strong.
memory fails, but i remember GNU being at least 1.5x alcyon (both 16-bit).
the point about compilers having non-trivial impact on performance is
nevertheless valid. i consider 10 percent or more significant so megamax's
35-40 percent improvement is quite significant and points out a possible
problem if tests are performed with less than optimal compilers.
>I think dhrystone is best bench available for general purpose.
i could argue that there is really no universally adequate "general
purpose" benchmark (real code is _always_ superior), but i won't :-).
>Do you *really* think the 3:1 difference is the compiler?
in this case (ie dhrystones) i can at least point out specific examples
where the difference is significant, tho maybe not 3:1 (maybe 2:1). i
could probably find 2 compilers on a single machine which differ by 3:1.
extrapolation between systems adds more complexity, however. then each
system's architectural features and configuration is important if not
dominant. and a naive benchmarker could fall into this sort of situation.
however, not knowing the conditions under which the reported numbers where
generated, i can't claim it is the compiler in whole or in part. i can only
tell you that compilers _can_ make huge differences tho. the fact that
we are having this exchange indicates the importance of _fully_ documenting
test conditions. unfortunately, this sort of info is not easily put in a
nice small table so it is rarely done. linpack is one notable exception.
jack dongara includes compiler rev as well as all compiler switch settings
in his reports. it is sufficient to cite the great importance and relevance
of compilers by indicating, at least in the supercomputer market, that the
players spend significant development and R&D dollars on compilers, eeking
out the last bit of performance possible on unmodified source code. i know
of huge deals (ie multimillion $$$) that are won and lost solely based on
a few percent improvement in execution exclusively attributed to compilers.
i have also seen as much as 30% or more improvement between compiler revs
in the workstation realm (eg HP) so if you are using an old compiler, say
a couple of revs old, you can easily see large differences on the same
machine and the same benchmark. i'm not sure if this is always true for
dhrystone, but it is the case for more complicated benchmarks like SPEC
or Perfect Club.
i also know that on whetstone (another common "general purpose" benchmark),
a compiler that can inline can make at least a 2:1 difference. since a
significant part of whetstone is to measure call overhead, which inlining
essentially eliminates, you have to question its value or at least its
"proper" use (and reporting). caveat emptor.
-bill
rosenkra@convex.com
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Bill Rosenkranz |UUCP: {uunet,texsun}!convex!rosenkra
Convex Computer Corp. |ARPA: rosenkra@convex.com
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Date: 22 Jan 92 05:56:47 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!midiline!jared@arizona.edu ('286 Highlander)
Subject: Finding the filebase...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I'm here on MIDILINE. I hear all these other users, calling in to this
BBS (node?) from local, or far away, talking about files in this weird
format I can't understand. My main confusion is getting IN to the file
area here on MIDILINE. What do I type and where do I type it to get in
to this totally hidden/secret area? I've got an un.ZOO'er program (least
I think I do...), but I have to be able to SEE the prgrams first to
download them, so I can un.ZOO them. Where on here are they? Where are
they anywhere?!? Help!!!
Reply in Email ("MAIL"). Thank you.
Jared
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Date: 22 Jan 92 17:18:20 GMT
From: cadence!cadence.com!bammi@uunet.uu.net (Jwahar R. Bammi)
Subject: GCC 1.40 & GDB
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan21.152816.6418@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
> I installed GCC 1.40 and compiled "hello.c" - it compiled and ran fine using
> Gemini 1.2.1; however, compiling "hello.c" with the "-gg" option to enable
> use of gdb gave me this:
use '-g' and NOT '-gg'. please grab the latest gdb stuff from atari.archive
(atariST gdb v2.6 patchlevel 15) in gnustuff/.../updates/update14.zoo
it fixes a lot of problems with older gdb's. Also, -gg is no longer
supported by either FSF nor is it supported in gcc-atariST and related
tools. ONLY '-g' IS SUPPORTED. (also note that -g and -G are not the same
option to gcc. -G has a completely different meaning).
cheers,
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 15:15:37 GMT
From: "D. Hines" <vj@cxa.daresbury.ac.uk>
Subject: HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter)
To: Andrew.Stratton@computing-maths.cardiff.ac.uk,
Dave Halliday writes:
> Andrew.Stratton@cm.cf.ac.uk (Andrew F Stratton) writes:
> |>
> |> Can anyone help with :-
> |>
> |> 1. Are there versions of arc, zoo, lharc that run on SUN 4's or VAX?
>
> Yes most can be got from Atari.archive though I have yet to locate
> Zoo201 only an older version that can be compiled on unix.
This was also posted to the atari sources group, so Lancaster probably have
it, and I have it here - see below.
> |> 2. Does anyone know where I can get the documentation for gdb?
>
> With the souces on atari.archive I believe.
Yes, on atari.archive, or here.
> |> 3. Is there a program available that lets you use the ST as a
> |> typewriter (v useful for filling forms)?
>
> Yes there is, I always thought the idea of downgrading your computer to
> a type writer rather silly but the program does exist. I's called E-Type
> and is sold by Digita International. It even costs a wopping
> 39.99pounds. I would sugest you simply write a small program to do it.
> It cant be that difficult.
I assume by that you mean as a terminal emulator. If so, there are a number of
free items around... the one I use is Uniterm, again available at Lancaster,
atari.archive, or here.
In all the above, when I say 'here', I'm referring to a mail response server
we run for use by people in the UK. It is intended to serve some other areas,
but while we have spare disc space there is some Atari stuff there. This is
mainly copies of things from other servers, but may be handy for people to
know about. If you want to try it, you may be interested to try sending the
following message to Info-Server@uk.ac.daresbury
Request: Help
Topic: Help
Topic: Sources
Request: Index
Topic: Atari
Request: Sources
Topic: /Atari/Index
Request: End
Dave Hines.
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Date: 22 Jan 92 12:14:06 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu
!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!NewsServ!colina@arizona.edu (Curtis Colina)
Subject: Hyperformat disk on a PC
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In principle the DOS Computers are able to read the Atari format, but
due to the 'laziness' there are mostly no questions if the disk is not
in the 'standard' format. Therefore, even though Atari writes the
information to the Bootsector, the DOS comps don't read them, but just
assumes it's in the 'standard' format.
ERGO: DOS says NO WAY.......
..But who wants to use DOS Computers anyway ????
Dossi
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Date: 21 Jan 92 12:37:14 GMT
From: FREIA.INF.TU-DRESDEN.DE!hohmuth@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Michael Hohmuth)
Subject: I'd like a CPX to...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
mcsun!uknet!ox-prg!adrian@uunet.uu.net (Adrian Cox) writes:
> There are two CPXs I'd like to have. I don't know if these have
> been written, and if they're available, as archie searches are
> difficult without a filename. If these exist, and are available for
> anonymous ftp (or mail server, as our name server isn't working yet so
> I can't use Terminator) please tell me.
>
> 1. Disk step rate control. I have one 5 1/4" drive and one 3 1/2"
> drive, and I'd like to set a 6ms step rate for the 5 1/4".
There is a CPX named DISK.CPX. Its source code was published in the German
magazine "ST Computer 3/91". I also have got the binary but I really don't
know if it is legal to copy it to the net as it is copyrighted by the
magazine...
> 2. Boot up control. I'm currently using a desk accessory and auto
> program called Autoload which loads AUTO programs from a list, so that
> they don't have to be in the AUTO folder of drive C. Is there a CPX
> based version of the same trick, to save slots?
I also use an AUTO program that loads other boot-up's from a list (called
Autobatch, written by me :: ). If I want to change the setup, I edit the
list with an editor; what is the acc/cpx supposed to do?
Michael
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Internet: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
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Date: 22 Jan 92 11:24:12 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!simonk@uunet.uu.net (Simon Kinahan)
Subject: I'd like a CPX to...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
adrian@robots.ox.ac.uk (Adrian Cox) writes:
>There are two CPXs I'd like to have. I don't know if these have
>been written, and if they're available, as archie searches are
>difficult without a filename. If these exist, and are available for
>anonymous ftp (or mail server, as our name server isn't working yet so
>I can't use Terminator) please tell me.
>1. Disk step rate control. I have one 5 1/4" drive and one 3 1/2"
>drive, and I'd like to set a 6ms step rate for the 5 1/4".
>2. Boot up control. I'm currently using a desk accessory and auto
>program called Autoload which loads AUTO programs from a list, so that
>they don't have to be in the AUTO folder of drive C. Is there a CPX
>based version of the same trick, to save slots?
>Thanx, Adrian
>--
>Adrian Cox, | This is yet another self referential signature.
>Robotics Research Group, |
>Engineering Science Dept,| I tried, as only a chimneypot can try...
>Oxford, UK. |
This is probably a good time to mention what CPXs are and what they
are used for. CPXs althought thay are compiled as normal programs
are basically treated like subroutines to XCONTROL and as such are not
really programs in their own right.
According to Atari CPXs should do what their name says they do. They
should be used to control aspects of the system. Thus altering colours,
disk drive settings etc are legitimate uses. Controling TSR utilities
such as mouse accelerators is also a legitimate use. Actually running a
mouse accelerator or some other function often performed by DAs is *not*
a good use for a CPX.
Hope this helps somebody out there.
Simon Kinahan aka simonk@castle.ed.ac.uk - "Mostly Harmless"
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Date: 22 Jan 92 09:33:14 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net (Neil Forsyth)
Subject: PD C compilers for ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just dug out my old Megamax manual and it says:-
"1.4.1 Segmentation
The space used by a program at run time is divided into a number of segments.
Each segment may contain up to 32KB. By default a program will consist of
three segments: a BSS ... a DATA ... and a CODE segment ..."
So that settles how Megamax did it.
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1992 11:13 EST
From: CSULLOGG@crl.aecl.ca
Subject: Prnt from GCR to SLM605
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Yesterday I managed to get my 4 meg 1040STE printing to my Atari SLM605
laser while running Macware under Spectre GCR (3.0). The German program
SLM 804 Init (from Fearn & Music in Stuttgart) redirects output from the
parallel port to a buffer then outputs to the SLM605 via the DMA. I used
MacPrint's HPLJ II driver to create the image in the buffer.
While I was quoted 50 Marks for the SLM Init, I paid 100 Marks + 65 Marks
for handling. While I am not enthused at having paid 330% of the quoted
price, I highly recommend the product to anyone who has a 4 meg Atari and
GCR/SLM laser combinations. Please note: I had purchased JetLink Express
to generate pages for printing but the SLM Init does not work with JLE.
Finally, Dave Small if you read this posting WHERE IS VERSION 3.1 OF SPECTRE.
I have had ver 3.0 for a year and have been unable to use it on my TT. To say
the lease, I am getting somewhat impatient at > 1 year's wait for a software
upgrade for a product that was advertised as working with the TT (the fine
print does not say DOES NOT WORK WITH THE TT'S INTERNAL HARD DISK!!!). Please,
provide 3.1 a.s.a.p, I don't like a lump of coal in my cartridge port!!!
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Date: 22 Jan 92 12:17:49 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!nott-cs!dpg@uunet.uu.net (`Grave' Dave Gymer)
Subject: Sozobon 1.33i vs. Sozobon 2.0 (extras)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <A1673926709@thelake.mn.org> thelake!steve@cs.umn.edu writes:
> > What about source? I can't use binaries compiled with dLibs, as they crash
> > under MiNT.I installed 2.0 for a laugh by compiling under the GCC as the
> > "UNIX"-hosted cross-compiler version (GCC on my ST, that is).
>
>You may have had problems with an old version of the library. There were
>bugs in the original dLibs 1.2 distribution that bombed programs started
>under Gemini/Mupfel and MiNT. As you can see, they were fixed in the
>beta-testing stage (which is one reason it took so flipping long).
Which version of MiNT are you running? There was a hack in at least one version
of MiNT which allows dLibs to work; it was removed in later version of MiNT.
Maybe I got hold of the wrong end of the stick, but I thought all versions
of dLibs misbehaved, because, among other things, they try to recover
information from their parent process (which may well have terminated under
MiNT).
In any case, I'm not using dLibs with Sozobon, I'm using a half-baked port
I did of Eric Smith's MiNTlib, which is why I'd like source. (I _hate_ using
\ in filenames; I have to type them all twice from bash or ksh!)
>I can't answer your specific question about source availability, but the
>sentiment will be passed along.
Thanks. I really don't like to use software I can't get source to.
--
`Grave' Dave Gymer | Olivier's law:
42 St Mary's Park, |
Louth, Lincs, | Experience is something you don't get until
LN11 0EF, ENGLAND | just after you need it.
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Date: 22 Jan 92 16:46:29 GMT
From: cadence!cadence.com!bammi@uunet.uu.net (Jwahar R. Bammi)
Subject: Sozobon 1.33i vs. Sozobon 2.0 (extras)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan21.131611.17662@cs.nott.ac.uk> dpg@cs.nott.ac.uk (`Grave'
Dave Gymer) writes:
> What about source? I can't use binaries compiled with dLibs, as they crash
> under MiNT.I installed 2.0 for a laugh by compiling under the GCC as the
You must have a very old version of MiNT. Eric specifically kludged
up a fix for dLibs startup code which insists on not using the
atari/mwc conventions that the rest of the world does (i know its not
perfect).
cheers,
--
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CIS: 71515,155
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Date: 22 Jan 92 15:23:10 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio
-state.edu!linac!uchinews!spssig!bobhays@arizona.edu (Bob Hays)
Subject: Sozobon 1.33i vs. Sozobon 2.0 (extras)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
On the subject of the Sozobon 1.33i make utility (thanks for bringing it up,
Chris:-), I found I needed to uncomment the buffer arguments for use on my
box (2 DS/DD drives, a D drive ramdisk).
I commented out the path variables entirely and used the one I defined in my
gulam shell as an environment variable. Works fine (I load three executables
for Sozobon into the ramdisk at startup and it finds them fine).
I guess I should find a way to pay the "big bucks" for more memory or a hard
disk (wonder which is cheaper for an older ST [1040]).
Anyway, if you have problems you might find uncommenting the buffer variables
in MAKE.INI will help.
Have fun! - Bob
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bobhays@spss.com Phone: (312) 329-3529 | "There is no dark side of the
Bob Hays Fax: (312) 329-3657 | moon really ...." - Pink Floyd
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Date: 21 Jan 92 18:59:35 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!
uoft02.utoledo.edu!desire.wright.edu!cse0507@arizona.edu
Subject: Sozobug 1.33i
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Would somebody else please try a particular call in Sozobon 1.33i?
The offending call is vqf_attributes, and I'm getting back trash
for the fourth array parameter. What's more, it crashes my TT really
bad. Using vdicall, I can code it up by hand, but...geez. Is it me, or
is it Memorex?
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Date: Wed,22 Jan 92 11:01:16 GMT
From: K.Wolstenholme@a.salford-software-services.co.uk
Subject: Start Subscriptions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi folks !
I'm sorry to bring up a subject you probably thought was long dead
but I've been off the net for some time.
My problem is that the last I heard from Start was nearly a year
ago and my subscription still had another 8 issues to run !
They haven't answered my letters and phoning the subscriptions
number got me nowhere.
Has anybody actually had their outstanding Start subscriptions
refunded ? Any suggested course of action (like give up :-)) ?
Maybe a phone number that will get some results ?
Thanks
Keith
===============================================================================
JANET: keith@uk.co.sss.a, keith@uk.co.salford-software-services.a
isocept_support@uk.co.sss.a (for ISOCEPT related enquiries).
PHONE: +44 61 737 7010
POST: 3-S, Technology House, Lissadel Street, Salford, M6 6AP, U.K.
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Date: 22 Jan 92 15:41:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc
13!atilghma@arizona.edu (Adam Tilghman)
Subject: Tips for high-speed modem use?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Howdy! I just picked up a v.32bis modem for a song, and now I
need to know what patches/etc. I needfor top performance on my
ST... Do I need to increase my serial buffer size, use TURBOCTS,
etc.???
any e-mail would be appreciated.
-- adam
--
==== Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@sdcc13.ucsd.edu - (619)558-2141 ====
== "Martha, fetch my rifle - thar's another UCSD ECE undergrad!" ==
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Date: 22 Jan 92 13:00:23 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!sersun1!okes@uunet.uu.net (Oke S)
Subject: To anyone stuck in DM or CSB
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have an editor/mapper for DM and CSB which I can mail if anyone wants it.
It was written by a friend and myself, and is free to all.
If you would like a copy, e-mail to okes@essex.ac.uk and ask nicely.
Simon Oke.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 10:45:40 WET
From: Ian C McCall <csc345@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: TOS 2.06 upgrade for Mega STE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Is there any more news about an upgrade from TOS 2.05 to 2.06 for the
Mega STE yet? It's a UK Mega STE, if that makes any difference.
Cheers,
Ian
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Date: 21 Jan 92 12:36:40 GMT
From: FREIA.INF.TU-DRESDEN.DE!hohmuth@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Michael Hohmuth)
Subject: Turboass
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
mcsun!uknet!edcastle!kev@uunet.uu.net (K S Shea) writes:
> Hi - I've been using the TurboAss assembler lately and I'm wondring how to
> get it to load in the debugger (which I assume is bugaboo.prg) to avoid
> to leave the editor every time I want to test something out.
> Any ideas?
You could:
a) load the debugger (bugaboo.prg) before the assembler and let it residently
stay in memory with the command "resident";
b) load the debugger from within the assembler with "Debugger nachladen" from
the "Assembler" menu (make sure that there is enough memory left to load
the debugger (if not, reorganize Turboass' memory menagement by selecting
"Information" from the "Editor" menu and then clicking "Reorganisieren"
(enter the amount of memory you want to keep free (at least 300K) at the
first editable line)).
The names of menus etc. refer to the German version of Turboass; I don't know
if there is an English version, too.
Michael
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Internet: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
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Date: 22 Jan 92 13:53:25 GMT
From: psinntp!ultb!ritvax.isc.rit.edu!JWS7793@uunet.uu.net
Subject: WANTED Cheap ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
WANTED:
A cheap ST (520FM would do) do to some simple midi stuff. Need not
have a monitor if it has a RF modulator. Send Email if you have one for sale.
James
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