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Info-Atari16 Digest Fri, 31 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 60
Today's Topics:
Anti-flamewar proposal.
CDPLAYER.LZH on atari.archive.umich.edu
dbackup v1.22 released
Dungeon Master, once again
HD-floppy drive (1.44 MB) and Atari ST
Help sought - G++ too slow!
I just got CS-TeX for my machine....
Is there software in Germany that ...
Juki driver for 1ST Word +
Mint 0.92 problems
Postscript on Atari's in general
Recommendations
RFI: Mono LOGO?
Several Question that need answered
SIMMs or SIPPs
Software fuer Atari ST MINIX 1.5 ???
ST's memory architecture
STOS 3D
STunn! Magazine.
Thanks
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Date: 31 Jan 92 21:48:03 GMT
From:
cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@cs.roch
ester.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: Anti-flamewar proposal.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
On 31-Jan-92 in Re: Anti-flamewar proposal.
user Ewald Seibert@Informatik writes:
>You aren't informed very well for the critics you write.
And you do not pay attention to waht you read. As for the mouse not
registering quickly enough, That is a harware/TOS bug, and Quick ST
can't do a thing about it. The blitter is a joke as well, for anything.
As for the GEMINI response, These were problems that have been with TOS
since it's inception, And should have been fixed in 1.2. One should not
hav e to buy a new computer, or a replacement desktop to fix an OS
problem, which is what this post was about.
mark
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Date: 1 Feb 92 00:12:49 GMT
From: TASHA.POLY.EDU!gpinzone@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Gerard Pinzone)
Subject: CDPLAYER.LZH on atari.archive.umich.edu
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
What version of LZH is used to compress CDPLAYER.LZH at umich?
It seems to be the same as the one that did PYM demo.
Yours truly,
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_______ ________ ________ Just on the border of your waking mind
/ ___/\ / _____/\ / __ /\ There lies another time
/ ___/\// /____ \// __ / / Where darkness and light are one
/______/\//_______/\ /__/ /__/ / And as you tread the halls of sanity
\______\/ \_______\/ \__\/\__\/ You feel so glad to be unable to go beyond
(everything 'cept anchovies!) I have a message from another time...
-=:)>}] EAST COAST ANIME [{<(:=- ELO: "Prologue" -=- Daicon IV
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Date: 31 Jan 92 21:33:39 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!sunic!chalmers.se!dtek.chalmers.se!dxper@uunet.uu.net
(Per Anders Olausson)
Subject: dbackup v1.22 released
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have just sent a copy of dbackup V1.22 to atari.archive.umich.edu ...
For those who have not yet used dbackup it is a backup program which can
use any compression utility (eg. zoo or lharc) to compress files instead of
just copying it. It should be media independent (although I doubt tape drives
work with it). Unfortunately some compression utilities do not support storing
information such as whether a file is a hidden or system file so all may not
work. (most notably arc.ttp does not).
New options:
-y backup only root directory of the source, skipping sub-dirs
-e enable use of extended command lines when calling archivers
-b "batch" mode operation
The new batch mode option makes it a lot easier to use dbackup since dbackup
can now be used with more archaic shells or directly from the desktop.
When using the '-b' option you just say:
dbackup -b <userdefined mode>
and dbackup will then search a file called dbackup.inf which has all the
definitions on what to do for that particular mode. There is no restriction
(except on RAM) on the number of modes a user can define this way. All the
options normally available through the command line is available this way.
The '-e' option was added since zoo and others support the extended command
line protocol for transfering more than 127 bytes on the command line. This
in turn makes it go a lot faster when backing up a lot of files. (it *does*
still take some time, though, to backup a 32Mb partition!!)
If you have any difficulties in obtaining dbackup via ftp please let me know
and I'll consider posting it to c.b.a.st
A messy-dos version is planned to be released later this spring.
I hope someone finds it useful. I do.
pao
--
-------------------------------Andrew Olausson--------------------------------
------------------------------Systems Architect-------------------------------
----------------------------dxper@dtek.chalmers.se----------------------------
--------------------------------pao@proxxi.se---------------------------------
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Date: 31 Jan 92 17:03:08 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!utzoo!censor!isgtec!ken@ar
izona.edu (Ken Newman)
Subject: Dungeon Master, once again
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan23.185805.13272@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, boyd@sigma.cs.fsu.edu
(Mickey Boyd) writes:
> In article <1992Jan22.194955.24668@milton.u.washington.edu>,
tymbrimi@milton.u.washington.edu (Ben Gilbert) writes:
> >My question is simple : HOW do I kill Chaos? I know it's something about
> >fluxcaging/fusing but I have been fighting him for at least 5-10 hours
>
> Surround him with fluxcages (all 8 squares around him), and fuse. He will
> not weather the experience well.
I've read so many zany solutions to the end of DM, it's quite amusing. (Or
at least the first 10 were :-} ). You *don't* have to put up 8 fluxcages,
and you *don't* have to go into the little room in the corner and fill it
with fluxcages! First, kill off most (or all) the demons, they are quite
irritating; can't remember if they regenerate or not. Then, do one of the
following, which are both straightforward, but the first is *much easier*!
1) Chaos is scared stiff of the war cry! Honest. Put the firestaff/gem
in one champion's hand, and nothing in the other 3 (this probably
won't work if you have 1 or 2 champions in your party). Stay out of
Chaos's direct line of fire, and manouver so you're facing the side
wall near where you came out in the open, and at the opposite end of
the level from where the small enclosed room is. Make sure Chaos is
between you and the side wall, it's not too hard. In the far corner,
there are two one-square alcoves in the wall. Have your 3 chars
start doing war cries as fast as you can click, one after the other.
Chaos will run like hell away from you. If you do it so you are outside
of him relative to the corner, in his panic he will run right into one
of the alcoves. Run up 2 squares in front of him, do ONE fluxcage,
which traps him in the alcove. Step forward into your fluxcage, and
fuse him. Boom - game over. I've done this about 5 times in a row,
it's real easy.
2) The other good way, although quite a bit harder, involves putting up
FOUR fluxcages around yourself, by spinning in place, not moving off
your square. Step back *one* square into one of your fluxcages, making
sure you are now facing Chaos. He always moves in the direction he's
facing, and will often teleport right in front of you in the middle of
your cages. Fuse him real quick, and he's toast.
- kn
ps. Too bad the ST version doesn't have war cry sounds! The Amoeba
version does. (sigh)
--
ken@isgtec.uucp [ ..uunet!utai!lsuc!isgtec!ken ] Ken Newman
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Date: 31 Jan 92 19:06:03 GMT
From: math.fu-berlin.de!pbinfo!uni-paderborn.de!hubi@uunet.uu.net (Who am i ?)
Subject: HD-floppy drive (1.44 MB) and Atari ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan29.125140.20329@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>,
liebsche@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Andreas Liebscher) writes:
|> Hi Atari Users,
|>
|> I have got a question:
|>
|> Several weeks ago I bought the HD-Kit from Hard&Soft A.Herberg and
|> the TEAC FD 235 HF floppy drive (also from Hard&Soft).
|> Calling Hard&Soft they said the controller VL1772-02PC in my MEGA ST
|> is ok, but it doesn't work at all (grumble :( ). So I changed it to
|> the WD 1772 PH 02-02. Now the HD mode runs for several minutes, but it
|> stops as soon as the computer has 'warmed up'.
me: I think your H&S HD leaves the WD at 16Mhz all the time, which means:
it get's hot and as all good working parts it wants "heatfree"
|> Who has any experience with HD-Kits and floppy controllers?
me: I bought a HD-kit a time ago. The cheapest one on the german market
(show in one of the following ST-Computers : 10/91 11/91 I think)
It switches between 8 and 16 Mhz on every step and so on
allows 3 drives (2 B's by swiching), HD and DD in mix in the drives
and autochange of steprates !
and all this with a bit soldering for 20DM +p&p
|> Who has the same or similar problems and isn't satisfied with his
|> HD-Kit?
me: With mine : none
|> Thanks for any information and help.
|>
|> Andreas.
|>
// // // hubi@uni-paderborn.de
//__ //__
// // // // // // // Rechnerbetreuung CadLab
// // //__// //_// // ... 05251 / 284121
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Date: 31 Jan 92 20:05:04 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.w
isc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!carter@arizona.edu (Carter Gregory)
Subject: Help sought - G++ too slow!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <9201311143.AA25024@v1.cm.cf.ac.uk> Andrew.Stratton@cm.cf.ac.uk
(Andrew F Stratton) writes:
>
> I am presently running G++ from gulam and Neodesk 3 on a 2.5 Mbyte
>ST with 20 Mbyte hard disk. To compile a 'cout << "Hello world\n";' program
>takes 1 minute 19 seconds. How can I speed this up (I have TOS 1.4, and have
>set fast load bits, I also use CACHE90 - though I don't know if it does
>anything, and I have 400 K RAM disk). I run from within Neodesk 3 without
>unloading, and memory is close to the limit.
>
> I may consider hardware purchases - such as memory, a faster hard
>disk (I presently have Supra hard disk, put together by myself). I doubt
>if an accelerator would make much difference - or would cost too much!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Andy.Stratton.
>
>--
> Parallel Processing Support Officer
> University of Wales College of Cardiff
>
> email:stratton@uk.ac.cf.cm
Try these suggestions:
1) 16Mhz CPU upgrade
2) 4Megs of memory
3) 21ms < access time hard disk
4) Don't run g++ in the background, under multiGEM or MiNT, avoid
even using these programs if you can.
And of course, you could always buy an SST board, and really burn
some scanning time through your machine.
I recommend an SST-030 16Mhz is cheap but 33Mhz is more realistic.
--Greg
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Date: 31 Jan 92 15:47:52 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!newcastle.ac.uk!newton!q1rse@uunet.uu.net (Dave Johnson)
Subject: I just got CS-TeX for my machine....
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Having installed CS-TeX on my machine at home I have a few questions. The
installation had no problems but I can't understand a word of german and am new
to TeX. I have got hold of some english docs and can produce simple documents.
Can anyone explain to me how to use the draw.sty correctly, I have manage to
include a few pictures in the document but the layout was a mess and I could do
with some help in sorting out the parameters required for it.
Also I have heard about Slitex (sp?) and I was wonder what is it, and what to
do to get it install on my machine (if I descided to use it) using CS-TeX
Thanks for the help
Dave J
--
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| David M. Johnson |If the radiance of a thousand suns |
| c/o Electrical and Electronic Eng. | were to burst at once in the sky,|
| Merz Court |That would be like the splendor |
| Newcastle University | of the Mighty One... |
| Newcastle upon Tyne |I am become Death |
| NE1 7RU | The destroyer of worlds. |
+------------------------------------+ |
|Janet : D.M.Johnson@uk.ac.newcastle | |
|ARPA : D.M.Johnson@newcastle.ac.uk | The Mahbharata. |
|UUCP : ...ukc!newcastle!D.M.Johnson| |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
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Date: 31 Jan 92 20:10:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ec
n.purdue.edu!vivaldi.ecn.purdue.edu!yegerleh@arizona.edu (James D Yegerlehner)
Subject: Is there software in Germany that ...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello Everyone,
I'm starting to write my master's thesis and was hoping you guys
there in Germany would know of any document processors that
can read in images as Borland PIC or HPGL files, support both FSM GDOS
and postscript output, and are otherwise solid and user friendly
programs? I know there is no such beast over here, and was hoping maybe
there was such a thing there. A friend of mine from Germany is going
home for a week in February and could pick it up for me. I can read
German, so the docs wouldn't be a problem.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Jim
--
__ __ | |
\ / __ __ __ __ | __ |__ __ __ __ Jim Yegerlehner
\/ |--'| ||--'| ||--'| || ||--'| 1132 Hawkins Graduate House
| `-- `--|`-- | |`-- | || |`-- | W. Lafayette IN 47906
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1992 16:12 EST
From: CSULLOGG@crl.aecl.ca
Subject: Juki driver for 1ST Word +
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
A local user wants to know if there is a Juki printer driver available
for 1ST Word Plus
Does anyone know a North American dealer for the Reflex graphics card?
------------------------------
Date: 31 Jan 92 23:43:41 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.
utexas.edu!utgpu!news-server.ecf!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!newshost.uwo.ca!uwo
vax.uwo.ca!7103_2622@arizona. (Eric Smith)
Subject: Mint 0.92 problems
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <oli.696850698@ernie>, oli@math.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Bonten)
writes:
> 1. Tcsh runs fine when run as INIT from Mint or started by double-clicking
> from the desktop, but will produce a bus error when started from MW2.
> I tried renaming it MWINIT, calling MW2 as INIT, renaming it TCSH.TOS,
> nothing worked.
The problem is a bug in the library used to compile tcsh; the ttyname()
function crashes when called on a pseudo-terminal. A work-around is
to create a symbolic link in u:\dev that points to the appropriate
file name in u:\pipe (i.e. the name of the pseudo-tty). This is the
reason that tcsh doesn't work under MGR, too.
> 3. Tcsh doesn't know the pwd-command. This one should be internal, I sup-
> pose. Also, Tcsh doesn't use the substitute system font from NVDI but
> the ROM font; I don't know what other shells do (forgot to look). Can
> I change this by resetting the console device?
pwd isn't built into any version of tcsh (the ST source code is essentially
the same as the Unix). It's an easy enough program to write -- I'll
leave it as an exercise for the reader :-).
I don't know how to change the font; tcsh just writes to the standard
output, in this case the BIOS console device. It would be possible to
write a new BIOS console that used whatever font one wished, I
suppose.
--
Eric R. Smith email:
Dept. of Mathematics eric.smith@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario 7103_2622@uwovax.bitnet
------------------------------
Date: 31 Jan 92 14:17:46 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!dutrun!dutrun2!dutncp8!bart@uunet.uu.net (Bart Schipper)
Subject: Postscript on Atari's in general
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
be824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Selick) writes:
>Why is it that Calamus and Notator, probably the 2 most significant
>reasons for purchasing an Atari computer, refuse to support Postscript
>outputs? Does there exist some universal interceptor that will take
>an output for 300dpi laser printers and convert it to a postscript file?
>Why, why, why, why, why?
I know nothing about Notator, but Calamus was developped around a new
concept of typesetting. This gives real WYSIWYG, in contrast with
postscript, which sometimes gives surprising results (not like you thought
you had designed it) and has proven not to be compatible with itself.
Especially with high resolution typesetters.
I wonder why why why you need an interceptor to convert Calamus
output for 300dpi laserprinters to a postscript file, since the creators
of Calamus provide drivers for every printer you can think of.
But yes, if you really want to go back to oldfashioned postscript,
for Calamus SL, there is a module to convert a Calamus document to EPS.
I suggest you ask DMC for it.
Bart.
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Date: 31 Jan 92 23:28:32 GMT
From: VULCAN.NOARL.NAVY.MIL!fox@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Dan Fox)
Subject: Recommendations
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I need some NetRecommendations for the latest/greatest/hottest games
for the ST. I don't "do" games myself but a friend of mine has a
birthday coming up and several people have asked me for recommendations
on games to get for him. He's had DM for a while, and also got
Lemmings for Christmas.
Any ideas?
PS - Recommendations of things to stay away from are also welcome!
Thanks.
fox@vulcan.noarl.navy.mil
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Date: 31 Jan 92 01:08:12 GMT
From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsadlu!smithj@hplabs.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Subject: RFI: Mono LOGO?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello, I'm looking for a LOGO for the ST which will run in mono.
If it's PD, so much the better! :->
Do you know of any such program, or perhaps have one for sale?
(It's for introducing my 6-year-old to creative programming concepts..)
Please email replies to smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Thanks in advance,
- Jim Smith
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Date: 31 Jan 92 13:44:32 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!newcastle.ac.uk!newton!q1rse@uunet.uu.net (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Several Question that need answered
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I was doing some work on my machine last night and installed a desktop acc
called snapshot, I am also running running xcontrol. When this program was
installed the machine refused to change rez from low to med (or med to low). I
got a random number of bommbs (most common was 7) and once I got an alert
saying something like stack overflow (I think). Them machine is an STFM 520
with TOS 1.4 and 2.5megs. Can only one explain the problem? (It stopped when I
removed snapshot.)
Another question, I have just bought a Deskjet 500, can I get it to print when
I double click on a text file and select print?
Cheers
Dave J
--
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| David M. Johnson |If the radiance of a thousand suns |
| c/o Electrical and Electronic Eng. | were to burst at once in the sky,|
| Merz Court |That would be like the splendor |
| Newcastle University | of the Mighty One... |
| Newcastle upon Tyne |I am become Death |
| NE1 7RU | The destroyer of worlds. |
+------------------------------------+ |
|Janet : D.M.Johnson@uk.ac.newcastle | |
|ARPA : D.M.Johnson@newcastle.ac.uk | The Mahbharata. |
|UUCP : ...ukc!newcastle!D.M.Johnson| |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
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Date: 31 Jan 92 16:21:43 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!axion!marvin!pete@uunet.uu.net (Pete Harris)
Subject: SIMMs or SIPPs
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have an Atari 1040 STE.
Is there any way of finding out whether my machine has SIMMs or SIPPs
*without* having to take it apart?
--
-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Peter Harris | "The sun struggles up another beautiful day
usenet: pete@btcase.bt.co.uk | And I felt glad in my own suspicious way ..."
| - Elvis Costello
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Date: 31 Jan 92 00:10:52 GMT
From: sun-barr!ccut!wnoc-tyo-news!toumon!wsdnws!ytsuji@ames.arpa (Y.Tsuji)
Subject: Software fuer Atari ST MINIX 1.5 ???
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Lieber Jorge,
It is a sad fact that Atari ST is virtually useless without being able
to read your language, but German is not supposed to be world-
distributable. Don't forget to specify 'Distribution: DEUTSCHLAND'
next time, will you.
Tsuji
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Date: 31 Jan 92 21:43:05 GMT
From:
cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@cs.roch
ester.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: ST's memory architecture
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Firstly, greg makes the assumption that when a new version of a piece of
software comes out, the old version suddenly vaporized. Wrong. People
cazn get by just fine with Word 4.0 on the Spectre. I bet that 90% of
all Word users, Mac Atari, PC, and Amiga do not use even close to 30% of
it's current features, let alone 5.0. Also, It is quite easy to run all
those programs under sys 7 with 4 megs. I know, I've done it. You have
to change the maximum alotted memory size for each program, which slows
them down a bit, but not much, but they still all work OK. Besides Sys 7
has virtual memory, So just get a bigger hard disk. No real caps there.
SuperPaint is a memory hog anyway. It works fine when you force it to
run under less memory. It is just greedy.
On 31-Jan-92 in ST's memory architecture
user Carter Gregory@cae.wisc. writes:
>ever. I have heard though, that you can't expect ANYTHING from Mr. Small
>for another 3-4 months, AT LEAST on this topic...ie (SST AND 3.1).
>By that time, who knows how big other programs will be..PYRO?? Excel?? Wingz?
And I thought D Small had just posted here two days ago saying they
would be out the door in days. Was I tripping or something?
mark
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Date: 31 Jan 92 17:18:21 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!gdt!aber!ssw9@uunet.uu.net (The Fnord Almighty)
Subject: STOS 3D
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan30.102023.5481@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz
(Roger Sheppard) writes:
>In article <17199@castle.ed.ac.uk> brucel@castle.ed.ac.uk (Bruce Lamond)
writes:
>> Does anyone know if Mandarin have released, or are going to release,
>> STOS 3D? I have been eagerly awaiting it since I got STOS a couple of
>> years ago, and plans for it were mentioned then. I have recently seen
>> AMOS 3D in the shops, so I thought it might be on the way.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>From what I have read, I don't think so, the Author has gone over to
>the Amiga..
>--
>*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
>*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
>*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
>*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
True indeed, Francois Lionet (the author of STOS, for those not in the know)
has moved over to the Amiga, but a little piece in ST Format stated that
Mandarin *are* going to release STOS 3D - the release data was quoted as
either the end of January of the end of February (can't remember off hand)
So there you have it ... it's gonna be released , but heavens knows when :-)
Simon.
--
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|"Running towards nothing, | Simon Ward, Dept.of Physics (Secure Unit)|
| Again and again ..." - The Cure | EMAIL: ssw9@uk.ac.aber |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 13:43 GMT
From: "Just cos I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not after me!"
<BOHANL@spock.vax.aston.ac.uk>
Subject: STunn! Magazine.
To: INFO-ATARI16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:INFO-ATARI16@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.edu>
Hi,
I am just mailing to tell anyone who doesn't know, about a shareware
disk magazine for the ST that is now available on the net. It is called
STunn! and aims to provide a useful and interesting product both for those
who can't afford and also want somthing different to the usually glossy ST
magazines.
It is currently available from the Monochrome BB (at City Uni in
London) - which also has a lively ST debate section, mail dg194@uk.ac.city
if you want an account there) and soon at lancs.pdsoft. Should anyone want
a copy, but not have access to either of these then please mail me, and I
will send you a .uue file of the latest issue - it is BIG though (approx
400k).
Also, if anyone know the procedure for uploads to places like
atari.archive, then I would love to hear from you.
Hope someone enjoys it. The issue currently in the pipeline will be
the best yet.
Lee.
********************************************************************************
Lee Bohan,
Flat 5, Larch House, STunn! Magazine
8, Lofthouse Road, THE Free ST Disk Mag.
Handsworth Wood, Email me for details.
Birmingham,
B20 1NW.
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Date: 31 Jan 92 18:45:21 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!brucel@uunet.uu.net (Bruce Lamond)
Subject: Thanks
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Thanks to everyone for their responses to my query about STOS 3D.
If anyone has any other news about STOS developments, let me know.
Also, does anyone know if the STOS Gameswriter competition is still
running?
Thanks,
Bruce
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