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Info-Atari16 Digest Vol. 91 Issue 547
GENIE email (2 msgs)
Get ready!
HD to TT ?
Lattice C Version 5 Update Soon?
Looking for Clarence T. Chang
More TeX/LaTeX
Need program to catalog gifs..
Re~1: Mega STe (2 msgs)
TeX joy, LaTeX woes.
Transputer link connectors on ATW
what types of joysticks work with 520ST?
Why programs don't work (was Fligth Simulator on STe) (2 msgs)
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Date: 21 Oct 91 21:27:52 GMT
From: psinntp!uupsi!mpoint!ritz@uunet.uu.net (Chris Mauritz)
Subject: Atari Abaq
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <4948@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann) writes:
>This is an old and probably dead issue.
>
>What happened to the Atari Abaq.
>
>A friend told me putting 10 of these Atari Abaqs together would give a
>user more power than a Cray Y-MP computer. He then proceeded to inform
>me how Atari products are so good, that Atari will own the computer market
>by 1989. I even saw a picture of the Atari Abaq in an atari magazine.
Hehe...Um, tell your friend to lay off the bong for a few minutes before
he starts talking about computers next time. :-)
>Do anyone have the scoop on this?
I don't know the exact number of Abaq transputer machines that were made,
but I am under the impression that the number is in the low hundreds at
best. It ran a new somewhat-buggy OS that supported parallel processing
and is used in a few universities in Europe.
They probably never sold enough of them to even cover a fraction of the
R&D cost.
Skoal,
Chris
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Date: 22 Oct 91 10:48:37 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!hydra!kreeta!luoto@uunet.uu.net (Markku Luoto)
Subject: Atari Abaq
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
is this abaq the same thing as something called "ATW" -transputer
station made by atari in 80'ies too ?
and is this "parallel supporting OC" same thing as "helios" used in ATW
?
>>>purely on curiousity ?<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>> " I'm completely operational & all my cicuits are functioning <<<<<<
>>>>>> correctly...correc...corr...co...-! " : HAl9000 <<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: 21 Oct 91 22:23:28 GMT
From: @oddjob.uchicago.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Subject: Atari Minix and ICD
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <7578.2901518b@cpva.saic.com> dshaw@cpva.saic.com writes:
>In article <1991Oct17.202405.1270@sae.com>, malay@sae.com (Bob
>Malay) writes:
>> Has anybody installed Minix on the Atari ST using a hard drive with an
>> Bob Malay
>Megafile 30 that follows my main HD. (It might be possible to rebuild
>Minix to allow more than 4 partitions, but I haven't looked into this and
>wouldn't want to be dependent on that anyway).
(I already replied to Bob Malay about this in more detail....)
Does anybody who uses ST Minix read this newsgroup (anymore) ? Frans
Meulenbroeks (who's name is on the COVER of the ST Minix vers. 1.5
manual ) I know shows up occasionally. anyone else ?
What to do if you want to use partitions BEYOND /dev/hd4 on ST Minix
1.5 from Prentis-Hall ? Well..... you have to upgrade(=patch) Minix
from version 1.5.10.0 (the version SHIPPED by Prentis-Hall) to at
least version 1.5.10.3 and recompile the thing...... Yes, it DOES
work!!! The patches are available somewhere on plains.nodak.edu for
anonymous ftp.
Now, if you want to be able to use MORE than 5 partitions at one time
(Which is a different matter than using partitions out beyond
/dev/hd4) you'll have to change a #define somewhere. Since I haven't
done it I don't remember where it is..... 4 partitons is more than
enough for my purposes.
There is a newsgroup where people are only too happy to help out with
minix questions.....
comp.os.minix
There's EVEN a FAQ.... :-).
-Andy-
--
|"The Snark WAS a Boojum, you see!" ||
|"Reality !?! Isn't that something ||
| you sprinkle on ice ??" |oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu |
|This is a banana ),This is your brain on bananas ~>~, Get the picture?|
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Date: 21 Oct 91 19:58:38 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!horga!reswi!aslan!clash@uunet.uu.net (Oliver Graf)
Subject: Font addresses
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hya!
First, thank your for your quick answer. But the problem, I have, is
where to poke the font address to. In my programs I user my own fonts,
too. But I wrote them with TOS 1.02. Now, after I installed TOS 1.04,
texts aren't displayed with MY fonts when I use the GfA-Basic TEXT
command. Using TOS 1.02, the address was $8820, but now?! The TOS font
address (the address where to poke the font location to) is still SUB(L%A,
22).
Oliver
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Date: 21 Oct 91 23:42:30 GMT
From: psinntp!sgigate!odin!flatcat.wpd.sgi.com!stever@uunet.uu.net (Steve
Whitney)
Subject: G-Print users wanted
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Users of G-Print (my text formatting/printing program which uses word processor
command codes): If you'd be interested in beta testing G-Print 2.0, please
reply to me at this e-mail address.
Version 2.0 includes:
Limited Word Perfect file support
TX2 file support (except graphics)
A different font for every pitch in WP, ST Writer, and First Word Plus
Support for FSM GDOS long font names, continuous point sizes, and
variabel character aspect ratios (width setting)
Document Information box
Various print order options
Several bugs axed.
Thanks for your help,
Steve Whitney
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Date: 21 Oct 91 22:58:35 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.ed
u!gvlf3.gvl.unisys.com!tredysvr!cellar!darling@arizona.edu (Thomas Darling)
Subject: GENIE email
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) writes:
> Anyone in North America can get a GEnie membership for a flat monthly fee
> of $4.95 U.S. or $5.95 CDN. There is no additional charge for email, and
> most non-computer-related roundtables are included in the basic fee. There
> also is no telecommunications charge if you dial into a GE network port.
> There are GE ports in most major cities.
It's worth pointing out that the flat monthly fee only applies if you call
after 6pm, before 6am, or on weekends. Otherwise all services are $18/hour
(ouch!) or $24/hour for 9600 baud (Double ouch!).
~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~\\\~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%
darling@cellar.org \\\ Thomas Darling * record production * dance re-mixing
uunet!cellar!darling \\\ Fact HQ Studio * The Cellar BBS:215/336-9503 * FACT
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Date: 22 Oct 91 12:07:30 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!caen!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.n
z!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: GENIE email
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <A1305483093@thelake.mn.org> steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington)
writes:
> [In article <91293.214026SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>,
> SML108@psuvm.psu.edu (Scott the Great) writes ... ]
>
> > Hi, is there a way to send email to GENIE accounts from BITNET or
> > Internet and vice versa?
>
> There is a GEnie project to build an Internet gateway, but no official
> gateway currently exists.
>
> Anyone in North America can get a GEnie membership for a flat monthly fee
> of $4.95 U.S. or $5.95 CDN. There is no additional charge for email, and
> most non-computer-related roundtables are included in the basic fee. There
> also is no telecommunications charge if you dial into a GE network port.
> There are GE ports in most major cities.
>
> --
> Steve Yelvington, Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota
> steve@thelake.mn.org (In winter we walk on water)
The same sort of thing applies here in New Zealand,
but you pay a connect charge of $8us per hour, but no charge for
uploading files, but you pay for all other times,
but no line charges even from here..
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
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Date: 11 Oct 91 00:53:34 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!tamuts!n160ao@
arizona.edu (Mark Lehmann)
Subject: Get ready!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
It looks like we are about to get a new generation of USENET users in
comp.sys.atari.st. The bombardment of computer sales over this facility
tells me that the experienced (but not developer) users are leaving atari
for more prestigious computer systems. This is great news because we should
see a new wave of enthusiastic users who got a really good deal on the
computer that provides power without the price (and in this case really
without the price).
This prompts me to re-encourage us to make the atari archives as user
friendly as possible. This includes documentation to set up
- MiNT
- command line editors/shells (bash, gulam, ksh)
- TeX/LaTeX
- Uniterm Macros
- Sozobon C (I think the easy to install package already exists)
- GNU C
- g++
Also, its time for us to be flame-retardent. Don't flame, and when you see
a flame skip it (I use the "k" functions of rn).
Thanks for your time.
Mark Lehmann
n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu
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Date: 22 Oct 91 09:42:15 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!sciences.sdsu.edu!ucselx!sol.ctr.colum
bia.edu!@arizona.edu (Erling Henanger)
Subject: HD to TT ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Yes, I did it.
And here is what to do:
1) Take out the old (720k) drive.
2) Put in the new one.
3) It works.
Allthough this works, I wouldn't recommend doing it, since the WD1772-chip isn't
supposed to be able to cope with 16 Mhz. Wait for the new chip from atari !!
Note: You have to have your own software to FORMAT HD-disks, but TOS will
automagically read/write HD/normal disks. If you have source to a floppy-
formatter, just change number of sectors to 18 instead of 9 and recompile.
You will then have a HD-formatter.
Also if you have Tos >= 3.05, you can set a DIP-switch so that you may
format HD-disks from the desktop.
--
_______ _____ o ____ Erling Henanger
/___ /____/ / / /| / / Norwegian Institute
/ /\ / / / | / | ___ of Technology. (NTH)
------ / \ /____ / / |/ \____| o Si nei til Intel.
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Date: 22 Oct 91 02:16:57 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!covert@ari
zona.edu (Richard Covert)
Subject: Lattice C Version 5 Update Soon?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Alxe Kieran mentioned on GEnie recently that Hisoft is
updating their Lattice C compiler soon. It is supposed
to have an intergrated project management (aka MAKE).
there is also supposed to be a new "ToolPac" which
will contain many UNIX tools for the LC5 package.
Now, could someone in the UK ask Hisoft about this update?
And about the ToolPac?
I am on Hisoft's mailing list but who knows?
--
Richard E. Covert covert@cactus.org
CACTUS ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert
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Date: 22 Oct 91 01:04:43 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nic.funet.fi!jartsu@uunet.uu.net (Jartsu)
Subject: Looking for Clarence T. Chang
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
The address <fsctc@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov> (Clarence T. Chang)
is on the ataripu-list, and causes a bounced message every time!
(messes up my mailbox...)
So, please give me your correct address, or unsubscribe from
the list.
If I receive no reply upon this subject in 7 days, I'll delete
the address permanently from the list.
If the person mentioned doesn't catch this article himself,
please someone who possibly knows him, inform him.
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Date: 21 Oct 91 17:55:11 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!olymp!sfb256!volker@uunet.uu.net ( Volker A. Brandt )
Subject: More TeX/LaTeX
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <4928@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann) writes:
>Thanks for the help setting up TeX and LaTeX. I now have TeX (and I think
>LaTeX) working. I can view things with the screen previewers.
>
>I have two project before releasing a "So, this is your first time installing
>TeX on the Atari ST!" document.
>
> 1) Make the "dviprint" program use fonts for my Panasonic 24pin (EPSON
> LQ-1500 clone).
>
> 2) Understand the font naming conventions. I understand that the "fonts"
> directory should have directories named after a font, and should contain
> font files with names like "100pk". Also, the "fonts" direcotry should
> have files containing "fontname.tfm" in it.
Oh my, why do people insist on making life difficult for themselves?
Why don't you simply use CS-TeX, available from several atari servers via ftp.
This program sets up EVERYTHING, the INSTALL.PRG builds all the right files,
directories etc.
There's a TeX shell that makes document recompilation a 3-key issue.
There's an automated Metafont that makes all fonts for your output device(s)
automatically, either on the fly as you need them, or as an overnight job.
Naturally, there's a previewer included that works with printer fonts, to
save on disk space. And of course there's a Panasonic printer driver.
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Bitnet: UNM409@DBNRHRZ1 Volker A. Brandt
UUCP: ...!unido!DBNRHRZ1.bitnet!unm409 Angewandte Mathematik
Internet: volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de [hopefully] (Bonn, Germany)
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Date: 21 Oct 91 23:41:34 GMT
From: netcomsv!bryanw@decwrl.dec.com (Bryan Woodworth)
Subject: Need program to catalog gifs..
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi, I need a program that will catalog gifs. I want the program to be able
to sort the information by disk # or alphabetical listing of the filenames.
I want it to ask the following info: disk #, filename, filesize
(optional), and a space for comments. And this is the most important part.
IT MUST OUTPUT THE INFORMATION IN ASCII.
Thanks.
--
Bryan Woodworth Mail: bryanw@netcom.COM
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
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Date: 22 Oct 91 11:20:16 GMT
From: bonnie.concordia.ca!nstn.ns.ca!ac.dal.ca!cordes@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re~1: Mega STe
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <5486634@shlink.hanse.de>, lp@shlink.hanse.de (Lutz Petersen) writes:
> Im Artikel <1991Oct18.002945.5554@demon.co.uk> schreibt
ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk (Iain Laskey):
>>
>> I would like to buy a Mega STe when they are released in the UK. Are there
any-
>> known compatibility problems with them?
>
> In my case 1st_Word 3.xx doesn't work. Now I have 'downgraded' to version
> 2.0x to work with some old wordplus-documents.
>
1st Word Plus 3.14 works fine on my Mega4 STE.
John Cordes
Dept. of Physics
Dalhousie University
Halifax, N.S., Canada B3H 3J5
email: cordes@ac.dal.ca
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Date: 22 Oct 91 12:11:47 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!think.com!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.
au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: Re~1: Mega STe
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <5486634@shlink.hanse.de> lp@shlink.hanse.de (Lutz Petersen) writes:
> Im Artikel <1991Oct18.002945.5554@demon.co.uk> schreibt
ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk (Iain Laskey):
> >
> > I would like to buy a Mega STe when they are released in the UK. Are there
any-
> > known compatibility problems with them?
>
> In my case 1st_Word 3.xx doesn't work. Now I have 'downgraded' to version
> 2.0x to work with some old wordplus-documents.
>
> lp
>
>
> --
>
> \\ lutz petersen - 2200 elmshorn, germany - +49 4121-63587 v.32 \\
> \\ lp@shlink.hanse.de lp@shlink.sh.sub.org zer: lp@shlink.zer \\
Well if you have brought 1st_Word Plus, you can upgrade to version
3.15, this I have read is the TT version, should work for the Mega STE..??
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
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Date: 21 Oct 91 18:34:22 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!olymp!sfb256!volker@uunet.uu.net ( Volker A. Brandt )
Subject: TeX joy, LaTeX woes.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Oct18.085235.19948@cs.nott.ac.uk> dpg@cs.nott.ac.uk (Dave Gymer)
writes:
>In article <4892@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann) writes:
>>(...)
>>I up it to FOLDR750.PRG and start over. BINGO, I get more fonts in, but then
>>TEX stops building LaTeX will another font.
>
>I presume your using a versoin of TOS prior to 1.4? I don't remember any of
>these problems when I tried to build TeX (my config, 4meg STe, TOS 1.60, at
>the time, about 10 meg disk space).
>
>If you can find a machine with TOS 1.4, try it on that.
FOLDR750 is outrageous! Needless to say, CS-TeX runs fine on TOS < 1.4 with
FOLDR090 or so. I don't use FOLDRxxx at all (TOS 1.4) and never had any
trouble running it.
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Bitnet: UNM409@DBNRHRZ1 Volker A. Brandt
UUCP: ...!unido!DBNRHRZ1.bitnet!unm409 Angewandte Mathematik
Internet: volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de [hopefully] (Bonn, Germany)
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Date: 21 Oct 91 23:29:09 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!spool.mu.
edu!munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!sirius!jeremy@a
rizona.edu (Jeremy Webber)
Subject: Transputer link connectors on ATW
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
I need to find out the pinouts for the DB9 link connectors on the back of an
Atari ATW. Unfortunately I do not have access to a manual which could help me.
Can anyone in this newsgroup help? Please reply by e-mail; I will summarize
only if there is demand for it.
Thanks,
Jeremy Webber
--
--
Jeremy Webber Internet: jeremy@cs.adelaide.edu.au
Digital Arts Film and Television, jeremy@chook.ua.oz.au
3 Milner St, Hindmarsh, SA 5007, Phone: +61 8 346 4532
Australia FAX: +61 8 346 4537
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Date: 22 Oct 91 07:25:42 GMT
From:
snorkelwacker.mit.edu!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!gacvx2.gac.edu!vax1.mankato.msus
.edu!doucetdb@uunet.uu.net
Subject: what types of joysticks work with 520ST?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <21OCT199115250127@obiwan>, buchs@obiwan (Kevin J. Buchs) writes:
> I am finally going to get a joystick for my 520ST. Do I need to get a
> particular type? Anyone have brand and source recommendations.
> Please Email and I summarize if there is interest.
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Kevin Buchs Mayo Foundation
> buchs@mayo.edu 200 1st St SW
> (507) 284-0009 Rochester, MN 55905
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Kevin Buchs Mayo Foundation
> buchs@mayo.edu 200 1st St SW
> (507) 284-0009 Rochester, MN 55905
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I have always used the good old Atari black joysticks. They work well, are
durable, and are *cheap*. ;) By the way, I have a 1040ST.
doucetdb@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
David Doucette
college student
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Date: 21 Oct 91 17:17:08 GMT
From: fernwood!portal!atari!apratt@uunet.uu.net (Allan Pratt)
Subject: Why programs don't work (was Fligth Simulator on STe)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In mail to me, Lars-Erik Osterud remarks that some games didn't work under
some TOSes because TOS uses Timer A, which is "reserved for applications."
What happened is that TOS used that timer DURING BOOT, which is perfectly
reasonable. After the boot sequence, it does not use that timer. However,
it left the timer and its interrupt channel in a state other than the reset
state. If the game programmer had not made assumptions about the state of
that timer, the game would have worked.
The same thing would happen if you ran some other program before the game,
using old TOS, and that program used Timer A (legally) but left it in a
state other than the reset state. Correct programs do not assume anything
about a resource like this, and approach it carefully. Incorrect programs
might, for example, unmask the interrupt before they install the vector,
because they think it's not enabled or the timer isn't running.
The newest TOS leaves that timer in the same state it boots up in: with the
interrupt disabled and the timer stopped. This is an example of the other
kind of pain we go through in the name of compatibility: we even try to
make badly-written programs continue to work.
Finally, for everybody: any time you refer to "some programs" not working,
PLEASE name the programs, so we can check out the reasons here. We run new
TOSes on our library, but we don't have all programs in the library, and we
don't try them in all ways. If you can name a program that doesn't work,
we want to hear it so we can investigate. If it doesn't just bomb on
start-up or something, then explain how to make it fail.
============================================
Opinions expressed above do not necessarily -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp.
reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else. ...ames!atari!apratt
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Date: 22 Oct 91 12:58:22 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.
ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!iraul1!irau28!s_grunwa@arizona.edu (Knut Grunwald)
Subject: Why programs don't work (was Fligth Simulator on STe)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
This is a ME TOO !
I have the same problem with games. Atari should forget about tricky
people sparing a few dollars for the ROM's by using a disk. You loose
a lot of memory and the ROM's are much more comfortable, if something
went's wrong.
They should place an Atari Emulator for PC's on the market, showing that
emulating a little, outdated 68000 is a very hard job for those super,
duper 80486's. May be the users like the ST-software and then buy a
ST for using it ...
- Knut
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