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Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 5 Feb 92 Volume 92 : Issue 69
Today's Topics:
".img" file conversions (2 msgs)
.SPS picture viewer?
///\_ "Head and Serve" Sozobon HELP! ///\_
A couple of UNIXMODE and MiNT questions
Conmputer Horizons Going Out Of Business!
dbackup v1.22 released
FREEZE DRIED TERMINAL?? where?
GCR help (2 msgs)
JRD's port of GNU Emacs
KEYBOARD/ATARI giveaway!
MIDI
pcditto software on a TT?
Postscript on Atari's in general
RF Modulator Help
STe and Mark Williams C
VI editor for Atari ST needed
What are the latest versions of PageStream and Calamus?
Zoomracks II
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Date: 5 Feb 92 12:39:44 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!yorkohm!minster!mjl-b@uunet.uu.net
Subject: ".img" file conversions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <6498@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Conversion the
>other way (.GEM to .IMG) should be possible with many drawing programs,
>or simply but taking a SnapShot of the easydraw screen.
But this only gives 90 dpi .IMG files. Does anyone have a tool that will
take a .GEM file and produce an .IMG file of any dpi? (I'm particularly
interested in 300dpi equivalents, as that would match my printer's
resolution.)
>Warwick
> _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au |
Mat
| Mathew Lodge | "What do they call you, boy?" "Kate." "Isn't |
| mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk | that a bit of a girl's name?" "... it's |
| Summer: lodge%alsys@uknet | short for 'Bob'" -- Blackadder II |
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Date: 5 Feb 92 13:46:35 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!warwick!nott-cs!lut.ac.uk!elmar@uunet.uu.net
(Mohammad A. Rahin)
Subject: ".img" file conversions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In <1992Feb3.155225.7387@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
>There are a number of clipart files on a.a that are in ".img" format. How
>do I convert them so that they can be used by EasyDraw (requires ".gem"
>format??
>
If I am not mistaken EasyDraw Plus can read in GEM .img format files.
- Rahin
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Date: 5 Feb 92 14:57:54 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!sersun1!essex.ac.uk!woocm@uunet.uu.net (Wood C M)
Subject: .SPS picture viewer?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
>I've come across some Spectrum files that use the extention *.SPS, and none
of my picture viewers can handle them. I have no problem viewing *.SPC and
*.SPU files, but not *.SPS.
Does anyone know of a viewer that can display these?
There is a viewer for definite on atari.archive, at least thats where
got mine, the problem is i can't quite remember the name, I'm almost sure
it's called spslidex.prg, or maybe specshow.prg. I'm almost also sure that
their in the /atari/graphics directory. If you can't find it i'll see if i've
still got mine and post it to you.
C.W.
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Chris Wood, |Pretentious Quote: "Uzi Nine Millimetre" |
University Of Essex. | (Shakespeare) |
woocm@essex.ac.uk |Disclaimer: I never wear fluffy pink slippers.|
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Date: 5 Feb 92 11:17:18 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!lapis.lab
med.umn.edu!davidli@arizona.edu
Subject: ///\_ "Head and Serve" Sozobon HELP! ///\_
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb5.042325.9188@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
an172@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc A. Lombardo) writes:
> I am following the C-manship tutorial to learn C, and I have come to the
> fourth chapter. I tried to compile the program from the .c program on the
> c-manship disk and it didn't work.
> ld: undefined symbol '_abs' from module .\c4prg1
> ld: undefined symbol '_fpltof' from module .\c4prg1
> [etc.]
Your 'cc' command line didn't include a reference to the floating point
libraries (where modules like _abs reside). The floating point libraries are
not part of dlibs or the AES/VDI libraries. You will have to include math.a
(or fplib.a -- I don't have my disks at work, so I can't remember the library
name) in your 'cc' command line in order to link to this library.
--
David Paschall-Zimbel davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
"The most important fact about Spaceship Earth: An instruction book didn't come
with it." -- R. Buckminster Fuller
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Date: 5 Feb 92 13:26:18 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!ucacmsu@uunet.uu.net (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Subject: A couple of UNIXMODE and MiNT questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <4859@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> bwhite@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (William E.
White) writes:
>I have a couple of questions about UNIXMODE (about which I know basically
>next to nothing except what I read on terminator) ...
>
>1. If I'm interpreting the documentation correctly, extended filenames are
>stored in an actual file somewhere. Um, ... maybe I'm missing something
>here, but ... wouldn't it be just as simple to use the unused bytes in the
>directory (about 31 of them I think)? Or are they reserved?
I know nothing of this, so I won't remark.
>
>2. Does MiNT (which I haven't played with either) grok this wonderful system?
>How about the shells out there? I'd really like to be able to forget that
>I'm not working on a Unix box. (Yes, John, I know -- I should buy a sparc!)
There's BASH, ksh and tcsh out there. If you run fully on the virtual U:
drive than you can forget about the TOS drive letters :-). As far as I know,
programs which have UNIXMODE built in will work as normal, but it may be
better, if you have a free partition, to reformat the partition using minit
so as to get a Minix partition. and use that under MiNT.
If you've got enough memory and you really want your system to look like a
Unix box, then wait for my init(8) package which includes versions of
passwd, login, getty who etc based upon thier SunOS counterparts :-)
>
>3. Exactly how slow IS MiNT? Are there any decent accelerator boards out
>there if it is on the unspeedy side?
MiNT slows down an ST by about 10%. On my TT.. it's not noticable :-).
>
>Again, thanks for your time.
>
>
>--
>| Bill White +1-614-594-3434 | bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (normal) |
>| Standard login hours: | bwhite@view.cs.ohiou.edu (alternate) |
>| 1-3,5-7PM EST M-F (oucsace) | more info via `finger bwhite@view...' |
Steve
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Date: 5 Feb 92 13:37:51 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!news.dell.com!milano!cactus.org!covert@ari
zona.edu (Richard Covert)
Subject: Conmputer Horizons Going Out Of Business!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just saw a message on GEnie last night that a long time
Atari dealer called COMPUTER HORIZONS, located in Denver
CO, is going out of business. This is very sad news to me.
I lived in Denver CO from 1985 to 1987 and bought many Atari
products there. I used to check out their new ST stuff almost
every weekend. I lost touch with CH when I moved in 1987 but
it is still sad to see Yet Another ST Store Closing.
Another important fact about CH is that the owners were also
a MAJOR distributor of Atari products throughout the West.
So it is a VERY BAD sign to see such a major player in the
shrinking Atari market closing shop.
Any one want to bet on when Atari USA is just a fond memory
to a few DeadHard Atarians?
--
Richard E. Covert covert@cactus.org
CACTUS ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert
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Date: 5 Feb 92 17:12:41 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!sunic!chalmers.se!dtek.chalmers.se!dxper@uunet.uu.net
(Per Anders Olausson)
Subject: dbackup v1.22 released
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
dxper@dtek.chalmers.se (Per Anders Olausson) writes:
>and dbackup will then search a file called dbackup.inf which has all the
>definitions on what to do for that particular mode. There is no restriction
>(except on RAM) on the number of modes a user can define this way. All the
>options normally available through the command line is available this way.
I just noted yesterday that I had forgot to add the keyword
restrict=<size>
in the manual (ie. the eqvivalent of -r on the command line when defining
a mode in dbackup.inf)
Sorry. (I'll add the missing line and resend it to atari.archive...when I
have the stamina)
pao
--
-------------------------------Andrew Olausson--------------------------------
------------------------------Systems Architect-------------------------------
----------------------------dxper@dtek.chalmers.se----------------------------
--------------------------------pao@proxxi.se---------------------------------
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Date: 5 Feb 92 15:43:31 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!iantw@uunet.uu.net (Ian Tweedie)
Subject: FREEZE DRIED TERMINAL?? where?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Does anyone know where I can get the shareware program FREEZE DRIED
TERMINAL program?
Ian.....
.sig in the making
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E-mail to Iat@dcs.ed.ac.uk (JANET) or Iantw@CASTLE.ED.AC.UK (INTERNET)
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Date: 5 Feb 92 11:08:55 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ira.uk
a.de!sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de!uklirb!weiss@arizona.edu (Gerhard Weiss AG v.
Puttkamer)
Subject: GCR help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb4.151901.9839@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
>I stumbled across a mystery. Yesterday I booted up the STe from an ICD w/clock
>equipped SCSI drive. The date was 3 FEB 1992, the time 10:03PM. I launched
>the Spectre program, popped into MAC-mode and created a file - I viewed the
>folder by name and noticed the date-time stamp was 4 FEB 1992 10:05PM - why
>is the MAC clock ahead by a full 24 hours???? Is there something that needs
>to be done to "sync" the Atari and the MAC clocks??
>
>Bob Malay
This is the same thing I recognized on my spectre. It seems that spectre
can not handle leap years. May be this is fixed in 3.1...
Gerhard Weiss
--
Dipl.-Inform. Gerhard Weiss * Universitaet Kaiserslautern * FB Informatik
AG Prof.Dr. v. Puttkamer * P.O.Box 3049 * W-6750 Kaiserslautern * Germany
Phone +49 631 2052656 * Fax +49 631 2052803 * E-mail weiss@informatik.uni-kl.de
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Date: 5 Feb 92 14:30:38 GMT
From: ncrcom!ncrlnk!ncrwat!pinot!herborth@uunet.uu.net (Chris Herborth)
Subject: GCR help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb4.151901.9839@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
}I stumbled across a mystery. Yesterday I booted up the STe from an ICD w/clock
}equipped SCSI drive. The date was 3 FEB 1992, the time 10:03PM. I launched
}the Spectre program, popped into MAC-mode and created a file - I viewed the
}folder by name and noticed the date-time stamp was 4 FEB 1992 10:05PM - why
}is the MAC clock ahead by a full 24 hours???? Is there something that needs
}to be done to "sync" the Atari and the MAC clocks??
}
}Bob Malay
This terrible problem :-) was discussed on GEnie a couple weeks ago... It's
because the Mac uses a different method of storing the time/date than the ST
does, and Dave Small's conversion code has a little hiccough in it... This
year is a Leap Year, and the Mac date will be one day ahead until March 1/92.
Watch for this again in four years if it slips his mind while he's working on
Spectre 3.1...
Summary: Don't worry about it.
--
----------======================= _ /\ ===========================----------
Chris Herborth \`o.0' herborth@pinot.Waterloo.NCR.COM
Information Products Co-Op =(___)=
NCR E&M Waterloo U Your cash: "Bob"'s favourite snack.
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Date: 5 Feb 92 10:21:53 GMT
From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: JRD's port of GNU Emacs
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
>>>>> On 24 Jan 92 20:57:45 GMT, steveg@cseic.saic.com (Stephen Harold
Goldstein) said:
Stephen> (Bonus Question): What is the name of the .el file (and where does it
Stephen> live) that I can put startup commands into? On my Unix box here it's
Stephen> ".emacs" but that obviously won't work on the ST.
Don't know about the latest release but with 18.55 it sufficed to
emacs.el in one's HOME directory.
Hope this helps.
--
Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
Phone: (+33-)61-33-62-66 FAX-1: (+33-)61-33-64-55 FAX-2: (+33-)61-55-35-77
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST. Wish it was a Mega STe? :-| Do I *really* want a TT/Next? ;%#
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Date: 5 Feb 92 03:48:42 GMT
From: noao!ncar!news.miami.edu!umiami!dlk0ms9s@arizona.edu
Subject: KEYBOARD/ATARI giveaway!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In the new issue of KEYBOARD Magazine there is a Keyboard/Atari contest.
They are giving away a TT recording system, 2 MEGA STE4 systems, and a 1040STE
system. They are all MIDI based systems. I can not remember exactly what
was in the packages, as I am waiting for the issue to get to my house.
This is a MAJOR package.
More later...
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Date: 5 Feb 92 19:45:29 GMT
From: george.arc.nasa.gov!glennd@icarus.riacs.edu (Glenn Deardorff)
Subject: MIDI
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
> I'm writing yet another Atari story for San Diego's ComputorEdge
> magazine, and am trying to get a feel for what the most popular
> software/hardware (keyboards, et al) set-ups are with Ataris. Also,
> any comments on why you use an Atari for your MIDI rather than a PC or
> Mac. (I'm not a MIDI user; more DTP and WP than anything else, so bear
> with me. . . .) As in the past, I will e-mail a copy of the story to
> everyone who respons (and yes, I know I still owe those who helped
> with the History of Atari a copy, which I'll get out in the next
> couple of days.)
Reasons I use an Atari:
When I was shopping for a computer a few years ago for music
applications, the Atari 1) definitely had the most bang for the buck
("Power Without the Price", eh?), and 2) had the widest selection of
MIDI software to choose from (the Mac was close in this regard). The
inclusion of built-in MIDI ports was not as much of a factor to me
(since you can buy a MIDI interface for the Mac for % $50), but is one
reason, no doubt, why it has great 3rd party MIDI support. After I
bought it, I found that new MIDI software that I wanted (e.g.
editor/librarians) usually came out for the ST before other platforms,
which made me especially glad I decided on it. And I believe the
quality of MIDI software (more on that later) is second to none.
Software:
I use Cubase 2.0 (OK, 2.01). Its "MIDI Manager" allows you to create
your own graphic faders (and dials and buttons, etc.) to control most
any System Exclusive parameter or other MIDI parameter adn record it as
part of the sequence; e.g. set up a bank of faders for volume, panning,
aftertouch (timbral changes), effects changes, etc., and I can then
control them with external controllers (like my J.L Cooper FaderMaster).
Its "Interactive Phrase Synthesizer" can be used to essentially make
programmable variations on a musical phrase (random or one of number of
other algorithms) that you can use to jam with or as a source for new
musical ideas. Two of these phrase synths can be active at once. A
"drum map" is there for easily configuring and programming drum parts
(can be used for any sound, actually). And you can easily record SysEx
from your synths onto a track as well. Its got great piano roll, event,
and standard notation editing. In short, its great graphical appeal and
ease-of-use make me one very happy customer. I haven't experienced any
of the problems others have mentioned (namely, slow and buggy). I'm not
trying to say its better for everyone than Dr. T's Omega, just that
played a bit with Omega and I'm very happy with Cubase (from
Steinberg/Jones).
I also use Dr. T's X-oR universal editor/librarian for configuring and
editing my MIDI system as if it were one big synth module. Its not
perfect (the envelope editing is missing displays of actual numeric
values, a problem on the Atari version which I've been assured will be
remedied), but I can't imagine life without it - its editing is very
useful, and the librarian is superb.
I also use Dr. T's VZ-Rider ed/lib for the Casio VZ10M, since the
editing template for the VZ in X-oR is incomplete. A great, complete
editor.
I have a couple of editor/librarians from Steinberg/Jones: for the M1
and the Wavestation. I can't imagine a better graphical user interface.
Especially for the newer Wavestation one - its got everything (including
little "VU meters" to let you know which patch in a performance is
currently sounding and how loudly). They're expensive, but top-notch
(and available only on the Atari, as is Cubase 2.0 currently).
And very importantly, I use the Revolver partition switcher to be able to
simultaneously switch between Cubase, X-oR and VZ-Rider. I'm very
impressed that I can use it with some non-GEM programs (like Cubase and
VZ-Rider), and that I can "roll in" pre-booted programs (I use it to
load in a state of X-oR that already has all my favorite banks loaded).
Unlike the M-ROS multitasking operating system that comes with the
Steinberg products, it has no problems with desk accessories, and can be
used with most other non-Steinberg non-GEM programs OK.
Hardware:
Korg Wavestation Ex, Prophet VS, Korg M1R, Casio VZ10M, Lexicon LXP-5,
Alesis Quadraverb+, JL Cooper FaderMaster, Roland M160 mixer,
Korg MIDI patch bay, and 1040ST
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Date: 5 Feb 92 11:26:48 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!glasgow!bru-cc!ee90grb@uunet.uu.net (Gareth R Blades)
Subject: pcditto software on a TT?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
koreth@panarthea.ebay.sun.com (koreth@panarthea.ebay.sun.com) writes:
:
: There no real reason why PC-ditto shouldn't work on a TT!
:
: If PC-ditto doesn't run on an TT (and it looks that way), the reason
: is propably sloppy (or too "clever") programming and "not following the
: rules"!
:
: Bye,
: Martin [Martin_Koehling @ un.maus.de]
The fact is that if you want a fast program you sometimes HAVE to use "clever"
programming.
You think PC-DITTO is too slow on a normal ST but it would be even slower.
You also forgot that the TT has a 68030 processor which is NOT entirely
compatible
with the 68000 in particular what operations need to be performed in supervisor
mode.
Tos versions below 1.4 are not compatible with a 68030 processor and they were
written
with a C interperator!
Gareth Blades
ee90grb@brunel.ac.uk
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Date: 5 Feb 92 14:18:00 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!gdt!aber!hrs@uunet.uu.net (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Subject: Postscript on Atari's in general
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <697134861.15151@minster.york.ac.uk> mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk (Mathew
Lodge) writes:
>In article <bart.696867466@dutncp8> bart@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl (Bart Schipper)
writes:
>
>It is this sort of arrogance that annoys me.
>
>Calamus' page description language may be superior to PostScript, but
>everyone else actually _uses_ PostScript.
>
>For this reason, we need proper PostScript on a disk. Telling us that
>Calamus direct output is better is no good.
>
>Mat
I'm afraid I can't agree with you here. I bet that when postscript first
came out people were saying *exactly* the same thing as you are here.
Are you saying that we must stick to postscript for the rest of time?
Herb
<--- Between the wilderness and the edge of the world. --->
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Date: 5 Feb 92 15:53:27 GMT
From: sae!sae.com!malay@uunet.uu.net (Bob Malay)
Subject: RF Modulator Help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
The Atari part #C070491 (163T), the RF modulator (most likely those found
in the STfm machines), has ten very long pins towards the back end of the
thing. I've identified the RED, GREEN, BLUE and ground lines by following
the circuit path to the MC1377 chip.
Does anybody have any Atari Technical reference manuals that describe this
part??? Somebody must have the ST schematics??
Bob Malay
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Date: 5 Feb 92 14:23:19 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!gdt!aber!hrs@uunet.uu.net (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Subject: STe and Mark Williams C
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I had MWC to begin with and when I upgraded to an STE the debugger no longer
would work. This wasn't so bad until Mark Williams stopped developing
their compiler so I dumped MCW and went for Lattice 5 which does have
active (it does doesn't it? Well where is the promised make, profiler,
debugger etc?) support and development.
Herb
<--- Between the wilderness and the edge of the world. --->
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Date: 6 Feb 92 05:32:06 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.a
u!comp.vuw.ac.nz!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!status!jonc@arizona.edu (Jon
Clarke)
Subject: VI editor for Atari ST needed
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Peter Loibl) writes:
> > I am looking for the UNIX-Editor 'vi' running on the Atari ST!
Try a program called VIX, it is the ST version of VI and does a very good
job indeed. I know it is on GEnie but I do not know of any FTP sites sorry.
_
Jon Clarke o( ) STaTus BBS, The Atari BBS in Auckland, NZ
jonc@status.gen.nz / /\ If that does not work try these address's
Z*NET PC Global Point kcbbs.gen.nz!status!jonc or on GEnie : J.CLARKE6
Auckland, New Zealand or we are also FIDO Node 3:772/105 FNET:Oneday
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Date: 5 Feb 92 15:19:00 GMT
From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v115lue3@rutgers.rutgers.edu
(apprentice of the obvious)
Subject: What are the latest versions of PageStream and Calamus?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
If you happen to know off hand what the latest versions of PageStream and
Calamus are, could you do me a favor and drop me a mail message? I need to
get a DP package, but I don't know the current prices/which is better/which
is a more economical purchase/etc. Any comments about Desktop Publisher?
All replies, and any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
.Philip
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Date: 5 Feb 92 16:50:49 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!csd.unb.ca!mta.ca!AKARPOWI
CZ@arizona.edu (Adam Karpowicz)
Subject: Zoomracks II
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
Does anyone know what happened to Zoomracks v.2? Are there any upgrades?
It was a quite powerful dbase program. I still use it, but it will not
work with my hard disk (ICD booter/drive from Toad) - crashes every time
when loaded or when saving.
Thanks
Adam Karpowicz
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