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Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 5 Feb 92 Volume 92 : Issue 68
Today's Topics:
.SPS picture viewer?
///\_ "Head and Serve" Sozobon HELP! ///\_
1040ST w/ sequencing sw for sale
A couple of UNIXMODE and MiNT questions
Atari 1040 STfm forsale
Atari Advertises
C, gem and sound questions
FTP
GCR help
How to make a gnu cross-compiler??
HVDI?
Maple For sale
MIDI
National (U.S.) Magazine Advertises Atari! (see message for details)
pcditto software on a TT?
Several Question that need answered
STe and Mark Williams C
TOS 1.4 ROM problem
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Date: 5 Feb 92 08:57:21 GMT
From: email!eimoni.tuwien.ac.at!KDV_521@uunet.uu.net
Subject: .SPS picture viewer?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <60323@aurs01.UUCP>, whitcomb@aurs01.uucp (Jonathan Whitcomb) writes:
>I've come across some Spectrum files that use the extention *.SPS, and none
>of my picture viewers can handle them. I have no problem viewing *.SPC and
>*.SPU files, but not *.SPS.
>
>Does anyone know of a viewer that can display these?
I don't know any viewer, but I've come across a doc which describes this
Spectrum Smooshed format (among others). It's somewhere in one of the
popular ftp sites for the atari st called picfmt.lzh ...
Marinos Yannikos
kdv_521@eimoni.tuwien.ac.at
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Date: 5 Feb 92 04:23:25 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!an172@ames.arpa (Marc A.
Lombardo)
Subject: ///\_ "Head and Serve" Sozobon HELP! ///\_
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just recently downloaded the new "Head and Serve" version of the Sozobon C
compiler from the atari.archive ftp site. The installation program and
GEMENV program helped me a lot, and now I am able to compile C programs
without any trouble. Or, as it seemed...
You see, the problem is, the example files compiled perfectly, and the first
couple of programs I wrote by myself worked perfectly. I setup a .MAK file
to compile them, using the structure in the example .mak files. They still
compile perfectly.
I am following the C-manship tutorial to learn C, and I have come to the
fourth chapter. I tried to compile the program from the .c program on the
c-manship disk and it didn't work.
I am willing to send the .c program file and the .mak file I am using to
anyone who is familiar with the Sozobon C compiler and is willing to help me
out. If you have a recommendation or want to help, please send me email at
mlombar@caticsuf.csufresno.edu or an172@cleveland.freenet.edu. Here are the
errors I received:
(After double clicking my c4prg1.mak file, the screen looks like:)
cc.ttp \cmanship\chap4\c4prg1.c -o \cmanship\chap4\c4prg1.tos aesfast.
a vdifast.a dlibs.a (Now it accesses the hard drive for a while, and seems
to be working okay!)
ld: undefined symbol '_abs' from module .\c4prg1
ld: undefined symbol '_fpltof' from module .\c4prg1
ld: undefined symbol 'fpdiv' from module .\c4prg1
ld: undefined symbol 'fpmul' from module .\c4prg1
ld: undefined symbol '_fpftol' from module .\c4prg1
ld: Unknown symbol of bad symbol type '_abs'
cc: loader failed
make: Return code 1
I was hoping that using the command #include <math.h> or another command
might help, but it didn't. Also, I did edit out the command #define VOID
/**/ which was used later in the program (and I deleted all occurences of
VOID) I didn't see a use for it, since it was just a comment without any
text within it!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--
Marc A. Lombardo User Address: an172
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Compuserve: >INTERNET: an172@cleveland.freenet.edu
Internet/BitNET: an172@cleveland.freenet.edu Atari ST,MIDI,Music
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Date: 5 Feb 92 00:13:40 GMT
From: rosie!next.com!pbern@uunet.uu.net
Subject: 1040ST w/ sequencing sw for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
For sale:
Atari 1040ST
Steinbergs pro 24 III software
Editor/Librarians for : MT32, FB01, Matrix 1000, DX7
Laser-C
Personal Pascal
Games, Cad, etc
$600.00 + 50/50 shipping
email pbern@next.com
or call 415/780-4507
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Date: 4 Feb 92 01:59:39 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!att!oucsboss!oucsace!bwhi
te@arizona.edu (William E. White)
Subject: A couple of UNIXMODE and MiNT questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have a couple of questions about UNIXMODE (about which I know basically
next to nothing except what I read on terminator) ...
1. If I'm interpreting the documentation correctly, extended filenames are
stored in an actual file somewhere. Um, ... maybe I'm missing something
here, but ... wouldn't it be just as simple to use the unused bytes in the
directory (about 31 of them I think)? Or are they reserved?
2. Does MiNT (which I haven't played with either) grok this wonderful system?
How about the shells out there? I'd really like to be able to forget that
I'm not working on a Unix box. (Yes, John, I know -- I should buy a sparc!)
3. Exactly how slow IS MiNT? Are there any decent accelerator boards out
there if it is on the unspeedy side?
Again, thanks for your time.
--
| Bill White +1-614-594-3434 | bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (normal) |
| Standard login hours: | bwhite@view.cs.ohiou.edu (alternate) |
| 1-3,5-7PM EST M-F (oucsace) | more info via `finger bwhite@view...' |
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Date: 5 Feb 92 06:15:26 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!galileo.cc
.rochester.edu!news@arizona.edu
Subject: Atari 1040 STfm forsale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I would like to sell my 1040STFM to get some softwares for my STe.
The configuration is as follow:
Atari 1040STFM
TOS 1.0 in ROM
1 double sided double density floppy drive
1 Megabyte of RAM
RF modulator
and all other stuff that is standard for an ST
Price: $235 + shipping
Please e-mail me for any question.
Thanks
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Date: 31 Jan 92 21:37:05 GMT
From: walter!porthos!nvuxl!rrk@uunet.uu.net (24115-kutz)
Subject: Atari Advertises
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
No one else has mentioned this, so I will. I saw my first Atari
magazine advertisement for the ST in years: the most recent Discover
magazine shows an ST/MIDI setup, even mentions Atari ST (and other
companies whose equipment contribute to the music setup). The opposing
page is an ad for the Portfolio. Made my day.
Randy Kutz rrk@nvuxl.cc.bellcore.com
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Date: 5 Feb 92 02:18:02 GMT
From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!milton!tymbrimi@arizona.edu
(Ben Gilbert)
Subject: C, gem and sound questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb03.232511.15266@CS.ORST.EDU> wilsont@prism.cs.orst.edu
(Timothy E. Wilson) writes:
>I am just starting up with C programming on the ST.
>I borrowed the book "Applications guide: programming in C, for the ST" by
>compute! books.
>I'm trying to use Sozobon 1.33i with it. I'm trying to get a gem library
>up and going but no luck, nothing compiles.
>all gemdefs.h and obdefs.h have been changed to gemfast.h .
>
>but the cc compiler gives me crap on most of the lines, even though they are
>verbatim from the book.
>
>so basically, Does anyone have a C Gem library? does AA have one?
>
>secondly, Where could i find source code for playing back standard sounds?
>(maybe the source to keyclick.ttp?)
>
> thanks!
Sozobon DOES have a C library, it is in 'aesfast.a' and should be set up
in your /sozobon/libs directory. When you run cc.ttp, make sure to enter
your source file name followed by aesfast.a, so the command line might look
like this :
> cc program.c aesfast.a
And of course make sure you include <osbind.h> in the program, I think this
will fix the problems, as I have used the AES library fine with Sozobon.
Ben Gilbert (tymbrimi@u.washington.edu)
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Date: 4 Feb 92 23:20:25 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Shep
pard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: FTP
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb4.013939.29525@rhrk.uni-kl.de> weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
(Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT]) writes:
> Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes:
>
> >Can some one help me a FTP site, this is the cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]
> >is it fully operational.?
>
> >All that I can get up to is a date/time line and then it stops/hangs..!!
>
> I have been in there yesterday night.
> But nslookup here reports 134.96.7.254
> Better you check the number out...
>
> Regards
>
> Christoph Weber-Fahr
>
> --
> Christoph Weber-Fahr | E-Mail: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
> Universitaet Kaiserslautern, KIT/IVS | S-Mail: Postfach 3049
> Tel. 0631/205-3391 | D-6750 Kaiserslautern
> -------------------------- My personal opinion only ---------------------
Yes I have found those 2 site numbers to, and they both work, but I only get
to were the system shows the Time/Date then stop..
So how is it that cs.uni-sb.de can have 2 site numbers,,[134.96.7.254] and
[134.96.252.31]...???
I will try that site again..
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
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Date: 4 Feb 92 22:17:02 GMT
From: psinntp!newstand.syr.edu!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@uunet.uu.net (Gerald
Greenberg)
Subject: GCR help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb4.151901.9839@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
>I stumbled across a mystery. Yesterday I booted up the STe from an ICD w/clock
>equipped SCSI drive. The date was 3 FEB 1992, the time 10:03PM. I launched
>the Spectre program, popped into MAC-mode and created a file - I viewed the
>folder by name and noticed the date-time stamp was 4 FEB 1992 10:05PM - why
>is the MAC clock ahead by a full 24 hours???? Is there something that needs
>to be done to "sync" the Atari and the MAC clocks??
>
>Bob Malay
>
>
Much to my surprise, I have the same "problem". I am almost
positive that I used to have the correct date under Spectre
(but I admit that I haven't looked in quite a long time). I
was wondering if this situation might have anything to do with
the fact this is a leap year?
--Gerry
PS. I've got an ST, not an STe with an ICD clock-equipped
hard drive kit.
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Date: 4 Feb 92 03:00:23 GMT
From: noao!ncar!uchinews!linac!att!oucsboss!oucsace!bwhite@arizona.edu (William
E. White)
Subject: How to make a gnu cross-compiler??
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Yes it's me again. :-) I'm trying to get the most recent gnu C compiler
to compile on a Decstation (ghod knows what. I think a 3100), so that
it produces a nifty little output file that'll work for TOS.
However, there seem to be no docs, and the Makefile was ... ahem ... less
than useful.
So, for a poor ignorant fellow like myself, exactly *HOW* do I get the GNU
C compiler to compile so that it's a cross-compiler? For one thing, there
is a configuration shell script. What is it for, and how does one use it?
What else do I need to do? Where is the default path and such? Please
humor me, I've been working on a whitepages service in System V Unix for
the past fifteen months. :-)
As usual, email responses preferred. Thank you for your time.
--
| Bill White +1-614-594-3434 | bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (normal) |
| Standard login hours: | bwhite@view.cs.ohiou.edu (alternate) |
| 1-3,5-7PM EST M-F (oucsace) | more info via `finger bwhite@view...' |
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Date: 5 Feb 92 07:51:43 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.co
lumbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!unido!urmel!oli@arizona.
edu (Oliver Bonten)
Subject: HVDI?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker) writes:
>What is HVDI? Is it just a screen accelarator like quick/turbo st? Why does
>it have its own font? And, most importantly, is it freeware?
>Any information, and I'll gladly bear your children.
It's NVDI, and it is, unlike most screen accelerators, a completely new
VDI (including GDOS), so it's supposed to work with more software than
quick/turbo. In fact, I have no problems with it, except for some older
games, where I have to switch off most features of NVDI using the ACC/CPX
delivered. I have v2.02, however, and people say that up to 2.01 there
were a lot of problems with dirty hacks in some quite standard applications.
No, it's not freeware, the Price is % DM 99,- (from Bela Software) and I
don't know if it's available outside Germany. But it is really good.
Very recommended.
Oliver
--
Heute hack ich, morgen crack ich, uebermorgen hol ich mir dem SysOp sein Login.
Ach wie gut dass niemand weiss, dass ich oli@math.rwth-aachen.de heiss.
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Date: 5 Feb 92 06:03:11 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!leonpoon@ames.arpa (Leon Poon)
Subject: Maple For sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I am selling Maple 4.2 for the ST, and I am asking for $80 OBO.
If interested, please email me at leonpoon@wam.umd.edu.
--
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| Leon Poon | "A wise man changes his mind; |
| leonpoon@wam.umd.edu | a fool - never." |
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Date: 4 Feb 92 13:34:57 GMT
From: aurs01!whitcomb@mcnc.org (Jonathan Whitcomb)
Subject: MIDI
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb01.181610.4016@crash.cts.com> trag@pnet01.cts.com (Jim
Trageser) writes:
>I'm writing yet another Atari story for San Diego's ComputorEdge magazine, and
>am trying to get a feel for what the most popular software/hardware
>(keyboards, et al) set-ups are with Ataris. Also, any comments on why you use
>an Atari for your MIDI rather than a PC or Mac. (I'm not a MIDI user; more DTP
>and WP than anything else, so bear with me. . . .)
I chose the Atari ST because it had the best price/performance ratio in its
class for *any* application (in 1986) and especially MIDI. I still believe
this is true for MIDI. Of course, the built in MIDI ports made it attractive
as a user, but more importantly, it attracted many developers to the platform.
I currently use a Mega ST4 with an SM124 monitor (a must for MIDI). Considering
that the software for the ST is still state of the art, I have no reason to
switch to another platform. In fact, the new ST Book portable will probably
keep me firmly entrenched in the ST market.
I use Dr.T's software almost exclusively. The primary reasons are:
1) They have been in the business for years and have continuously upgraded
their software. Sequences I made years ago on my 1040 ST run fine on the
newest software.
2) The programs are modular. Dr.T's has developed a "Multi Program
Environment" (MPE), which allows many of their programs to run concurrently
and share data. Economically, it allows me to build my system a piece at
a time, when I can afford each new piece.
3) Support. The programmers are available on-line on GEnie, and provide
answers to questions and bug fixes in a very short time. The tech info line is
manned five days a week, and I receive upgrade notices and special deals on
closeout software in the mail regularly. Since it's a US based company (as
opposed to C-Lab or Steinberg/Jones), response time is amazingly fast. Bob
Melvin (designer of the Caged Artist patch editors and X-oR universal patch
editor/librarian/system exclusive data manager) is especially good in this
regard, and has been known to respond to change requests within a two or
three days.
4) The software is great. I use the KCS Omega sequencer, X-oR, T-Basic (an
interpreted BASIC programming language with hooks into all of KCS's sequence
data) and the Phantom (SMPTE sync interface and software). The interfaces are
intuitive and the graphics are very useful. Anyone who still thinks that
Dr.T's products just fill the screen with numbers hasn't seen them lately!
The programs are extremely stable, and I have no problem using them with all
of my regular ST system software installed. I recently bought Intelligent
Music's RealTime sequencer and M composition and performance tool.
My MIDI hardware setup is hardly state of the art, but it gets me by. I use
a Korg 707 (8 voice multitimbral FM synth) primarily as a dumb keyboard. It's
velocity sensitive and has aftertouch, and was quite cheap. The sounds aren't
great, but I consider them as a free bonus with the keyboard. My main sound
modules are the Korg P3 (piano) and Symphony (orchestra). Each are 16 voice
multitimbral, and provide me with a limited range of sampled instruments.
None of these instruments are new or expensive (I think that all three
combined cost less than $1000), but it is important to note that many of
the high priced MIDI instruments have built in sequencers and other features
which are redundant with my software. I also don't need lots of memory in
my synths, as I can store data on my ST using X-oR. In fact, all I look
for in a new synth are good sounds, lots of outputs and good MIDI support
of the internal functions, so I can usually save money buying the stripped
down, small memory rack-mount versions.
I also use an Alesis QuadraVerb GT, a Casio MG-510 guitar MIDI controller
and a DMC MX-8 programable MIDI switcher. I've written X-oR profiles for
the P3, Symphony and Quadraverb GT.
My next major music hardware purchase will be an 8-track reel-to-reel. I was
thinking of buying a Tascam TSR-8, but now that Fostex has worked up a MIDI
interface with the ST, I will probably end up with an R8. The press reports
from NAMM indicate that this interface will allow complete control of the
tape transport via the ST, so you can basically thread the tape and not
have to touch the machine for the rest of the session. The fact that
Fostex is now working with ST software companies (I believe this interface
is available from C-Lab, Steinberg/Jones and Dr.T's) is a great sign for
the survival of the ST as a major MIDI platform.
**********************************************************************
Jonathan Whitcomb UUCP: <whitcomb%aurgate@mcnc.org>
Alcatel Network Systems Delphi: JBWHIT
Raleigh, NC GEnie: J.WHITCOMB3
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Date: 4 Feb 92 22:45:57 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation!uokmax!kllove@arizona.edu
(Kenneth L Love)
Subject: National (U.S.) Magazine Advertises Atari! (see message for details)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
First off, I must apologize for the tabloidesque feeling to this article.
However, (to me at least) it's like one of those headlines (like 'Elvis
lives on Mars with alien mistress!') from the National Enquirer.
I was reading Discover magazine when, to my unbelieving eyes, I beheld that
most amazing of sights: a *TWO-PAGE* Atari ad!
'I heard this cry of strangled delight,' said one of his friends (who
wishes to remain anonymous). He continues, 'When I rushed into the room,
I found him passed out on the floor! After I woke him up, he was incoherent,
but just kept pointing to the latest issue of Discover and gurgling happilly.'
Yes, friends, this is what's happening all over the country as Atari
supporters are struck unawares by this seemingly benign ad! It has effected
so many people that some support groups have been started for those like the
poor soul described above. If you know someone similarly effected, please
call 1-800-555-HELP for the number of the closest group to your area.
Some of you may wish to know what is in this ad. Well, I must tell you it
is NOT for the faint of heart. Skip to the end of this article if you are
of that persuasion. Here goes: the first page has a picture of a large
screened computer (TT? Mega STe? Nobody in the know of these things has
been able to speak after viewing the ad!), a big board with a LOT of switches
on it (a super graphic-equalizer?), and this guy manipulating both of them
with ease. In a text description below it describes how easy it is to use
Atari computers to manipulate stuff (I haven't got the advert in front of
me at the moment or I'd be more descriptive. Come to think of it, maybe it's
better I'm not. There would be too many computer users accros the country
slumped over their keyboards....). Also, included are some of the company/
product names that produce MIDI software. The second page (I didn't pay much
attention to this one) was all about the Portfolio.
Well, I hope I didn't scare off too many people with this post. If you
feel the need to respond to this message please do it by e-mail. I'm looking
for more places that Atari's have been showing up. Side note: I saw T2 and
this Atari ad on the same day (Saturday, Feb. 1) and it was almost too much
to bear (not really, but it sounds good)!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth Love |
15725 NE 63rd | "Who is this /dev/null person anyways?
Choctaw, OK 73020 | And why does he like so many flames?"
kllove@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | -- Me
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Date: 4 Feb 92 22:39:14 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation!uokm
ax!occrsh!fang!att!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!hojo@arizona.edu (HC
Johnson)
Subject: pcditto software on a TT?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <A3382@UN.maus.de>, Martin_Koehling@un.maus.de (Martin Koehling)
writes:
> In article <H.RTW7W9wCwPA@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
> wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>
> >In <1992Jan27.043129.2193@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, William Magro writes:
> >> Has anyone tried the PCDitto software emulator on a TT? If so, does
Did you know that PC-Ditto I will output error messages and crash dumps
on the RS232 port. This is how its was debugged.
All you need is to get the terminal port set up under TOS
and hook a terminal (or another ST with a term emulator) to it.
What it prints is useful.
Howard Johnson
ATT BELL LABS
att!mtgzy!hcj
hcj@mtgzy.att.com
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Date: 4 Feb 92 19:53:55 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!pacific.mps.oh
io-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!rlcollins@arizona.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Subject: Several Question that need answered
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan31.134432.24370@newcastle.ac.uk>, D.M.Johnson@newcastle.ac.uk
(Dave Johnson) writes:
> I was doing some work on my machine last night and installed a desktop acc
> called snapshot, I am also running running xcontrol. When this program was
> installed the machine refused to change rez from low to med (or med to low). I
> got a random number of bommbs (most common was 7) and once I got an alert
> saying something like stack overflow (I think). Them machine is an STFM 520
> with TOS 1.4 and 2.5megs. Can only one explain the problem? (It stopped when I
> removed snapshot.)
Were you remember to "shutdown" xcontrol before changing rez? (I
figure you were.)
If I want to get screen shots, I use grabber2.acc, which I got from
Atari.archive. (I know it works with TOS 1.4, but I haven't tried it
with xcontrol loaded.)
Later.......
------======={{{{{{{{((((((Ryan 'Gozar' Collins))))))))}}}}}}}}=======--------
Atari Computers: "The Game is never over" rlcollins@miavx1.BITNET
Power Without The Price R.COLLINS1 on GEnie
------======={{{{{{{{(((((( My 1040STF Rocks!! ))))))))}}}}}}}}=======--------
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Date: 4 Feb 92 22:25:52 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation!
uokmax!occrsh!fang!att!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!hojo@arizona.edu (HC
Johnson)
Subject: STe and Mark Williams C
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Feb3.213409.26908@unlinfo.unl.edu>, witts@hoss.unl.edu (Rick
Wittstruck) writes:
> I'm considering the purchase of an Atari STE so that I can easily
> upgrade to 4 megs of ram, plus blitter stuff etc, but I am worried about
> my Mark Williams C package. I've heard that MWC will not work on TOS
> versions 1.04 and above. Is this true? Has anyone tried to use MWC from
> hard disk with an STE? It's crucial that I find out before making my
> purchase, so please give any information if you can!
> Any comments much appreciated!
>
I have MWC, and TOS 1.4; an ST, not STE.
The problem is the debugger, which has wired into it:
1. a list of TOS versions (1.4 is not there)
2. a strategy on accessing TOS based on version.
Since the strategy for 1.4 did not change since 1.2, which is there
I just hacked 1 byte to validate 1.4. Works.
To complete the story, the debugger works, but bombs when it exits.
It doesn't not bother me. It might you.
If you are used to the "UNIX" was of compiling, you will greatly enjoy
MWC.
Howard Johnson
ATT BELL LABS
att!mtgzy!hcj
hcj@mtgzy.att.com
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Date: 4 Feb 92 22:13:24 GMT
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Johnson)
Subject: TOS 1.4 ROM problem
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <807@mwuk.UUCP>, tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield) writes:
>
> Help!
>
> I have just bought a set of six TOS 1.4 ROMs amd tried to install them
> in my old 520STM (not STFM). They don't work :-(
>
> The ROMs were labelled H0 H1 H2 L0 L1 L2. The original ROMs were not.
> Looking at my circuit, it appeared that they should go in the following
> sockets:
>
> U2 = H0, U3 = H1, U4 = H2, U5 = L0, U6 = L1, U7 = L2
>
Your ROMS (EPROMS) sound like illegal copies. Atari numbers them U1-U6
and you place them in order as stencelled on the mother board.
Your set, seems labeled from a readout of the Atari Memory space.
There are 6! ways to scramble them. That makes 15 I think.
Write down all the premutations, and try each one.
Remember, you only get to plug one in upside done once. Then its cooked.
Also, if any pin folds under the chip, the whole computer will not work.
Good Luck!
Howard Johnson
ATT BELL LABS
att!mtgzy!hcj
hcj@mtgzy.att.com
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