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Info-Atari16 Digest Fri, 18 Oct 91 Volume 91 : Issue 538
Today's Topics:
1040STf Power Supply Needed/ Junkers Wanted
Atari Minix and ICD
auto folder woes (2 msgs)
Battle Chess
comp.sys.atari.st.tech
comp.sys.atari.st.tech (AARRGGHH!)
gnuucp
Help with a printing problem. (3 msgs)
Mega STe
More TeX/LaTeX
Notator 3.1
START's cute uncompress program
Syquest drives
Twister (was Re: Crikey)
Uploading to BART.
WANTED: GIF --> SPC converter
whining HD
Z-Net
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Date: 17 Oct 91 17:18:51 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakar
i.primate.wisc.edu!zazen!news@arizona.edu (PAul STevens -- MACC)
Subject: 1040STf Power Supply Needed/ Junkers Wanted
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Oct17.132253.21175@actrix.gen.nz>, Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz
(Roger Sheppard) writes...
>In article <1991Oct16.141858.1@ulkyvx.ct.louisville.edu>
wscart01@ulkyvx.ct.louisville.edu writes:
>>
>> I need help on this one. I have a 1040STf that now has a non-functional
>> power supply. I was wondering if anyone knows of a place to buy a new one
>> or pick up a used one?
>> I've called our local 'Authorized' dealership and they don't have any and
>> don't really want to get any. So I am in trouble! Any help would be
>> useful. (Even the number for Atari service!)
>>
>> ---
>> Stuart Carter | If anyone has a junker 1040STf that can
>> University of Louisville | be used for parts, E-mail me and we can
>> Physics Dept. | try to work out a deal!
>
>Why not just repair it, they are very simple Switch Mode PSU's.
>
>
>--
>*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
>*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
>*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
>*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
I had a supply go out. Atari repair service would not talk about
selling an internal power supply. Absolute. Period. They would
only sell external supplies.
Arthur Brown Company sells internal power supplies for 520. Perhaps
it is the same.
PAul
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Date: 17 Oct 91 20:24:05 GMT
From: sae!malay@uunet.uu.net (Bob Malay)
Subject: Atari Minix and ICD
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Has anybody installed Minix on the Atari ST using a hard drive with an ICD
host adapter. After reading the installation instructions for Minix I've
become confused - Minix expects to see only 4 disk partitions - ICD allows
more than this - is this a problem?? Will having disk partitions after the
fourth one (/dev/hd4) cause strange things to happen. This is the setup I
want :
partition drive type
1 C Atari TOS
2 D Atari TOS
3 E Minix (root)
4 F Minix (usr)
5 G Spectre
6 H Spectre
Any problems with this setup??
Bob Malay
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Date: 17 Oct 91 08:13:45 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!esatst!wg!chris@uunet.uu.net (Milquetoast)
Subject: auto folder woes
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I've got an atari 1040ST. I've managed to put something in my auto folder on
the hard disk which hangs the machine. Is it possible to abort the auto folder
or boot with the hard disk off and still be able to access it once it's
switched on again?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Chris
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Rouch chris@wg.estec.nl
Serco Space Ltd. Tel: +31 1719 84672
ESTEC, The Netherlands. Fax: +31 1719 84192
Underfunded OAPs turn to a life of crime in the great cucumber roberies of 1989
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Date: 18 Oct 91 00:44:21 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!orion.oac.uci.edu!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.
uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu (Warwick Allison)
Subject: auto folder woes
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In <1991Oct17.081345.24836@wg.estec.nl> chris@wg.estec.nl (Milquetoast) writes:
>I've got an atari 1040ST. I've managed to put something in my auto folder on
>the hard disk which hangs the machine. Is it possible to abort the auto folder
>or boot with the hard disk off and still be able to access it once it's
>switched on again?
Yep. Put any old disk (except one with AHDI) in the flopply drive, turn on
HD, wait, turn of computer, hold ALT, run AHDI from floppy, install C drive,
delete mean AUTO program... reboot.
Warwick
--
_-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
/ * <-- Computer Science Department,
\_.-._/ University of Queensland,
v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
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Date: 17 Oct 91 09:31:22 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!raven.alaska.
edu!acad3.alaska.edu!fnjlh1@arizona.edu (HARRIS JAY L)
Subject: Battle Chess
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Any legitimate copies of Battle Chess for sale????
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Date: 17 Oct 91 18:46:08 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu!dhbutler@arizona.edu (David Butler)
Subject: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I've heard rumor that Dave Small may be considering doing a full-color mac
emulator for the TT (and SST/w color cards). He would be using the NuTek roms.
It has also been mentioned that if we want to see this product we might want to
let Dave know. I would encourage everyone who is interested (and even those who
aren't, just to help out), call him and let him know with a SHORT message. I'm
sure that he does not want to hounded. Also, if he decides not to make such a
product, I hope people won't turn angry on him like I've seen a tendency to do
in the Atari world: It is his company and he can do what he wants.
The phone numbers are:
voice: (303)-791-6098
fax: (303)-971-0253
Address:
Gadgets by Small
40 W. Littleton Blvd., #210-211
Littleton, Colorado 80120
- David Butler (The Grand Panjandrum) -
"What ever happened to free love anyway?"
-innagaddadaviddababy-
dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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Date: 17 Oct 91 18:55:10 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnu
s.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler@arizona.edu (David Butler)
Subject: comp.sys.atari.st.tech (AARRGGHH!)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Sorry about that, I just started using a new editor, that subject line should
read:
"GREAT APES INVADE NEW YORK IN HOT AIR BALOONS!"
or maybe "Tell Dave you want it real bad, right now"
anyway, sorry for that stupid subject line.
- David Butler (The Grand Panjandrum) -
"What ever happened to free love anyway?"
-innagaddadaviddababy-
dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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Date: 16 Oct 91 05:51:02 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!mcshh!malihh!pfunk.hanse.de!blackbox@uunet.uu.net (Michael
Kistenmacher)
Subject: gnuucp
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In <1991Oct13.112152.19832@frmug.fr.mugnet.org>, Mathias Herberts writes:
>Hi , I am presently looking for a compiled version of gnuucp on ATARI
>I have the source code in my possesion but not the C compiler neede to
>compile it .
I'm looking for that stuff too. When I looked through the sources, I
saw that the ST-bindings are written for MWC with MICRO-RTX. I got
the sources to go through GCC, but they failed when linking. I don't
know too much about C, so I went on to other projects.
It would be pretty nice, if anybody could port that stuff to go
through GCC with MinT, it's not as hard, because GCC compiles most
of the sources without any changes.
I still have to use the UUCICO by Jan Willamowius, which is written
under GFA and bombs if it's started under MinT.
Bye...Michael
--
/------------------------------------\
| Michael Kistenmacher / blackbox |
| 2000 Hamburg 61 / Schippelsweg 64 |
| West Germany / ++ 49 40 552 37 66 |
\------------------------------------/
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Date: 17 Oct 91 08:26:03 GMT
From:
stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!gacvx2.gac.edu!vax1.mankato.msus.edu!doucetdb@uunet.uu
.net
Subject: Help with a printing problem.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Oct16.210210.22245@polari.uucp>, rts@polari.uucp (Randy Seacat)
writes:
>
>
> about 20% of the right side of the image, text or graphics, is not there.
> The printer is filling up the paper, but it looks as if the image is
> offset. Well, a better description is that my screen is 80 colums but the
> paper image looks like its about 132, with everything above 80 missing.
> There is always a boarder on the right side. It just seems like the screen
> dump is not sizing the image to fit the paper. Anyone have any ideas?
Solution: Select "Control Panel" under Desk. Then, select "Install Printer".
Then, change the pixels/line from 1280 to 960. That should do it.
David Doucette
doucetdb@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
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Date: 17 Oct 91 13:40:45 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!yorkohm!minster!mjl-b@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Help with a printing problem.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Oct16.210210.22245@polari.uucp>
SoftEng!yorkohm!uknet!ukc!mcsun!uunet!ogicse!milton!sumax!polari!rts
rts@polari.uucp (Randy Seacat) writes:
>
>Hello folks, I need help with something.
>When I do a screen dump, or I use programs that do. My printer fires up
>and starts printing away just fine, except one thing.
>
>about 20% of the right side of the image, text or graphics, is not there.
>The printer is filling up the paper, but it looks as if the image is
>offset. Well, a better description is that my screen is 80 colums but the
>paper image looks like its about 132, with everything above 80 missing.
>There is always a boarder on the right side. It just seems like the screen
>dump is not sizing the image to fit the paper. Anyone have any ideas?
The ST assumes that you have an Atari printer connected by default. The
Atari dot matrix has a higher dots-per-inch graphics mode than the standard
Epson graphics mode (which everyone else emulates).
Use the control panel printer setup to set the printer width to the smaller
of the two alternative values (I can't remember what the two numbers are off
hand -- just pick the smaller one!)
>Thanks.
>| rts@polari.uucp Dont think about moving here! |
>| Seattle Online Public Unix Everyone else is thinking about it! |
>| Seattle Washington, USA The rest already have! |
Regards,
Mathew
(mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk)
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Date: 18 Oct 91 00:49:16 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!orion.oac.uci.edu!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.
uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu (Warwick Allison)
Subject: Help with a printing problem.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In <1991Oct17.022604.919@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> doucetdb@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
writes:
>Solution: Select "Control Panel" under Desk. Then, select "Install Printer".
>Then, change the pixels/line from 1280 to 960. That should do it.
Then save the desktop. Or better, use XControlPanel, with the printer CPX.
--
_-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
/ * <-- Computer Science Department,
\_.-._/ University of Queensland,
v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
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Date: 18 Oct 91 00:29:45 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!demon!news@uunet.uu.net (Iain Laskey)
Subject: Mega STe
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I would like to buy a Mega STe when they are released in the UK. Are there any-
known compatibility problems with them?
How fast are they in practice?
Thanks
Iain
/s
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Date: 18 Oct 91 03:55:40 GMT
From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!tamuts!n160ao@arizona.edu (Mark
Lehmann)
Subject: More TeX/LaTeX
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Thanks for the help setting up TeX and LaTeX. I now have TeX (and I think
LaTeX) working. I can view things with the screen previewers.
I have two project before releasing a "So, this is your first time installing
TeX on the Atari ST!" document.
1) Make the "dviprint" program use fonts for my Panasonic 24pin (EPSON
LQ-1500 clone).
2) Understand the font naming conventions. I understand that the "fonts"
directory should have directories named after a font, and should contain
font files with names like "100pk". Also, the "fonts" direcotry should
have files containing "fontname.tfm" in it.
I don't understand this convention yet. I also, need to need what
"flibs" does. I am trying to piece it together with the minimal
documentation of the "dviprint" and "showdvi" ".fnt" files, but I am
having a tough time deciefering it all.
By the way, I want to post the final document on "terminator" in Michigan.
Someone please send me the guidelines for submiting to "terminator."
Since 7 people have mailed me help messages, and 31 people have mailed me
requests to share the info, I will post useful information to
comp.sys.atari.st.
Mark Lehmann
n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu
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Date: 17 Oct 91 22:49:18 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!att!bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!seli
ck@arizona.edu (Steven Selick)
Subject: Notator 3.1
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just received a mailing from Alexander Publishing about a notator 3.1
update from 3.0 for $45 or something. What did they update in 3.1? Is it
worth $45 or whatever they want?
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Date: 17 Oct 91 22:12:24 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!gatech!unix.cis.pitt.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu
!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!newstop!eastapps!eastnews!gaud
reau@arizona.edu (Joe Gaudreau {Dances with PostScript})
Subject: START's cute uncompress program
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In the latter days of Start magazine's disk compression, they used
a self-extracting archive format (DC something).
Works quite well on vintage ST's but not on a Mega4/Ste. Anyone know
how to unsquish these files? It's really be nice if I could convert
the last of my Start disks into usable material...
Lastly, Volume 5, #'s 1-3 has an article about programming the blitter
that was quite lovely. Sorta elegant in it's way. Good stuff.
Grins,
Joe
-=-
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Date: 15 Oct 91 20:34:16 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!cpva!dshaw
@arizona.edu
Subject: Syquest drives
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Oct11.093027.27293yonder@netcom.COM>, yonder@netcom.COM
(Christopher Russell) writes:
.
>
> I am a fairly new SyQuest (44) user. I really love it, but recently
> it has started making some noise (kinda chattering). It comes and
> goes -- sometimes load sometimes softer. I've been thinking about
> using that nice 2 yr warranty. Has anybody had a similar problem?
> I would like to know if anyone has had a similar experience.
>
.
I've seen a very similar problem on a couple of different Syquest drives.
One is attached to my PC and occasionally starts clicking almost as if it
were randomly seeking around the disk. My Mac Syquest has never done
anything similar, but I did encounter one on another Mac just last week that
was clicking just the same way. I've never had a problem actually reading
or writing disks as a result of this, but it is annoying and very
disconcerting at first.
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Date: 17 Oct 91 12:47:19 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!ukc!yorkohm!minster!mjl-b@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Twister (was Re: Crikey)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <9110161209.AA14433@caticsuf.cati.CSUFresno.EDU>
jpickar@caticsuf.cati.csufresno.edu writes:
>In article <1991Oct15.124701.1@simvax.labmed.umn.edu>,
> davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu pens nobly:
>>In article <9110151010.AA19664@caticsuf.cati.CSUFresno.EDU>, i write:
>>>However: I'd like to challenge you, using only versions of TOS 1986 or
earlier,
>>>to write a Twister formatter WITHOUT resorting to using the DMA hardware
>>>directly. (Bit of a challenge, no?)
>
>>Although David Small had to address the floppy drive routines (through
>>intercepts of valid TOS calls, mind you) in order to FORMAT in Twister mode,
>>no such routines are necessary to READ a Twister-formatted disk. The fact
that
>>one could read a Twister-formatted disk on a stock 520/1040ST disk drive
>>implies 'good programming technique' on the part of Mr. SMall.
>
>Address the floppy drive routines?!!!!!!
>
>Oh really now. Last i checked the only way to send a format track command
>to the FDC was through the DMA system or through flopfmt(), and flopfmt()
>definitely does NOT support track skewing.
Well, look again. TOS 1.2 was the first to support sector skewing (you set
the interleave to -1 and make the "filler" longword point to a table of
sector numbers). It is true that TOS 1.0 didn't support it, but all the TOS
releases since _do_ support it.
>and isn't the DMA system
>something undocumented anyway? (I'm not about to shell out $350 for half
>of what i can get in _ST Internals_ for under $20, especially just for a
>fact to prove a point, when there's probably hundreds of registered
>developers on the net who'd be willing to answer, no?)
No, the DMA system _is_ documented. (It's there in my documentation).
First you say that the DMA system is undocumented, then you say that you
don't know what the documents say... Hmm.
>
>Also, it wasn't "good" programming technique, even by your definition...
>doesn't this take advantage of a certain bug/feature in the hardware?
>Namely, that the sector directly after the index pulse does not have to
>be numbered 1?
There is nothing in the spec. sheet of the WD1772 that says that the sector
after the index pulse must be sector one.
[a lot of stuff deleted]
>
>Blame Casio for their inept implementation of MIDI, not me. (by the way,
>i have no knowledge whatsoever of how complete, or how lacking, Casio's
>MIDI implementation is.)
How can you apportion blame if you admit to knowing nothing about it?
>]\/[arx ]\/[arvelous of TPPI
>(jpickar@caticsuf.cati.csufresno.edu)
Mathew
mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk
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Date: 17 Oct 91 16:55:59 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!samsung!umich!terminator!brode@arizon
a.edu (Jon Brode)
Subject: Uploading to BART.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <eD2X02w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Michel Forget) writes:
>Hello, again. I have written a terminal program that I would like to
>upload to the archive-server at atari.archive. Could anyone tell me how
>I would go about contacting Jeff Weiner, or the appropriate person in
>charge of things. Any information would be welcome.
Just a minor clarification on the subject line... There is no way to upload
to BART.
As you have surmised, Jeff handles the submissions. You can reach him at
weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.
Jon Brode -- jon@atari.archive.umich.edu brode@icpsr.umich.edu
His Loftiness, the Supreme Allied Commander of the Umich Atari Posse
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Date: 16 Oct 91 17:39:21 GMT
From: ucivax!orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!steveg@locus.ucla.edu
(Stephen Harold Goldstein)
Subject: WANTED: GIF --> SPC converter
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I'm looking for a *high-quality* GIF to Spectrum converter that runs in a
BATCH mode. (Feed it a list of files to convert, and let it fly).
It wouldn't hurt if portable source was included so I could run conversions
overnight on a Un*x machine.
DMJ GIF 2.0 produces the best conversions I've seen to date, but takes up to
1/2 an hour to perform the conversion on a stock ST, or 17 minutes with
AdSpeed running @ 16MHz, but that's still too slow to wait around for.
Can anyone provide me with a batch converter with comparable output quality?
Even if it's slower, the ability to convert overnight will provide me with
better 'throughput'.
--
---
Stephen Goldstein steveg@cseic.saic.com
My first Atari system? A 24K Atari 800, Rev. A ROMS, C(not G)TIA graphics
Disclaimer: That's not what I said.
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Date: 17 Oct 91 18:57:34 GMT
From: psinntp!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@uunet.uu.net (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: whining HD
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Does anybody have any suggestions for help with my CDC 40 meg
HD (in an ICD FAST) setup that has worked well for a couple of
years but has started to whine when it comes up to speed for
ST boot-up? You see, when I start it now, it starts fine, but
then when it clicks into the mode when it is ready for the ST,
it starts to whine. I can get it to work by powering up and
down a few times, but I'm wondering if there is some way to
fix this problem more permanently? Or am I going to have a
dead drive soon?
Thanks,
Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
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Date: 17 Oct 91 18:35:24 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.p
itt.edu!gvlf3.gvl.unisys.com!tredysvr!cellar!darling@arizona.edu (Thomas
Darling)
Subject: Z-Net
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Maybe I missed out on something here, but is there something wrong with the
Z-Net mailer these days?
I value this informative magazine, and I haven't recieved one in a looooong
time.
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