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Info-Atari16 Digest Tue, 28 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 52

Today's Topics:
128K Mac ROMS for sale!
Adding a second Hard Drive with new LUN. Help.
Aladin
Amiga geeks, read this
Amiga SW/HW, Atari ST SW, modems, monitors, SCSI HDs for sale
Anti-flamewar proposal.
BFJ International Orders ($279 Supra v.32bis)
Darn brevity
Dead 520 ST
Deskjet 500 (2 msgs)
pcditto software on a TT?
Spectre users unite!
UNIXMODE
Various ST topics
Wanted: Hard disk for use with 1040ST

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Date: 28 Jan 92 22:55:56 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!have
n.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!umbc5.umbc.edu!chuck@arizona.edu (Chuck Rickard; ACS
(UGRAD))
Subject: 128K Mac ROMS for sale!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I have a few sets of 128K Mac ROMs that I am selling for $175
each set. It's just what you need for your new Spectre GCR!

If interested, please contact me at the address below.


Thanks!

--

Chuck Rickard
(chuck@umbc5.umbc.edu)

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Date: 28 Jan 92 23:50:02 GMT
From: infonode!ingr!b11!jmack@uunet.uu.net (Cery McCormick)
Subject: Adding a second Hard Drive with new LUN. Help.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I am having trouble adding a second hard drive to my 520ST. I
have a Berkely BMS host adapter with an Adaptec 5000 (4 MFM ports) SCSI
card. My first drive is logical unit 0 and has always booted/worked
fine. I added a second drive as LUN 1; the supra software lets me
format and partition it OK but I can't get it to be recognized as having
partitions F, G, and H when I boot up. (Icons are there, but the driver
doesn't recogize those drives; ie. DRVBITS doesn't have them in it.) My
first drive has C, D, and E. Any help on how to get my second SCSI 0,
LUN 1, drive to have partitions F, G, and H would be greatly
appreciated.

| J. Cary McCormick | Intergraph Corporation |
| | jmack@gunshop.b11.ingr.com (205) 730-6185 |

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Date: 28 Jan 92 22:48:42 GMT
From: mcsun!@uunet.uu.net (Stephan Muhs)
Subject: Aladin
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <92020.132931GUTEST6@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> GUTEST6@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be
(Kris Van Hees) writes:
>Hi!
>
>COuld anyone please tell me what version of Aladin is needed to execute
>Mac programs since system folder version 6. We have sent an MS Works
>version from a Mac running sys folder 6, and it fails to execute due to
>an incorrect system folder version. Any ideas hos to fix this?
>

As far as I know, you are out of luck. You need the newer 128 kByte MAC boot
ROMs to run system 6.0.x. To the best of my knowledge, Aladin never supported
the 128 kB ROMs. Thus, Aladin is pretty obsolete nowadays. You should consider
to dump the Aladin and get Gadget`s Spectre GCR.

Stephan



--
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Date: 29 Jan 92 03:43:48 GMT
From: bonnie.concordia.ca!IRO.UMontreal.CA!JSP.UMontreal.CA!u1398@uunet.uu.net
(Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Amiga geeks, read this
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan28.143618.14501@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu
(Carter Gregory) writes:
[irrelevant stuff deleted][sp]

>I think ATARI people just can't stand to hear there are many computers
~~~
>out there, far more capable, far less expensive, than the ones with the
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>ATARI label on thier desks...or floor.

Okay, enlighten us, which computers are out there that are less expensive
than Atari computers, and are far more capable.

Start off with the $349 Atari STE 512K. (Current price, Toad computers)
I find this fair, as most people have 8MHZ machines. An STE with blitter
chip, stereo 50Khz sound, Midi ports, SIMM, Instant boot, 640x400 mono.

Next, step up to Mega STE1 for $999. 16Mhz with cache, 68881 socket,
VME card slot, Built in HD ready, and all the previous model's features.

L'ets stop here temporarily. (Please, no remarks in the "AH! you know
the TT doesnt have a chance in such a discussion"
sense.) We can discuss
the TT line after, thats all. Or is the TT the only thing you can pick on?

>--Greg
--
Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen
der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht
fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in
das pockets, relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!!! ------------- :-) ------

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Date: 29 Jan 92 00:51:34 GMT
From: psinntp!ultb!ultb!clf3678@uunet.uu.net (C.L. Freemesser)
Subject: Amiga SW/HW, Atari ST SW, modems, monitors, SCSI HDs for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

This is a repost of an earlier post. More stuff added, some prices
lowered!
-----------
The various items listed here are for sale. If you are interested in
anything here, please contact me via:

GEnie: C.FREEMESSER
Internet: clf3678@rit.ultb.edu
clf3678@ritvax
Phone: (716)328-5505 after 6pm EST

Prices do not include shipping. Will make a deal on multiple purchase of
items, but prices are pretty low. Everything listed here is in PERFECT
working condition! I'll find out the EXACT UPS shipping charges for
anything you want to order. I've got more stuff than I need, and a
big tuition bill coming, so I need to sell this stuff soon!

------------

Amiga 500 computer system. About 4 months old. Includes the computer
with a 1MB Supra memory expansion (total memory 1MB). This was one of those
starter kits that came with the Amiga 520 RF/color composite adapter,
TextCraft Plus, Tetris, and Where In the World is Carmen Sandiego. Complete
with all manuals, disks, original packaging, cables, etc. I will throw in
a copy of "Amiga for Beginners" by Abacus Books, a few European mags, and
Gauntlet II. I'll also include the original reciept for everything so
you can take advantage of the remaining warranty period. Very little
use.

$325
------------

Golden Image 880k Amiga external drive. Very little use on my part.
Purchased used, but is in EXCELLENT condition. Also complete with
manuals and original packaging. Warranty card was never sent in,
so you can probably get FULL warranty on it.

$60
------------

DataFlyer Plus hard drive interface for Amiga 500. 1 1/2 months old (at
most). Sidecars onto the Amiga 500. Not just the board, but the complete
steel case as well. With original packaging, disk, and manual. The
manual, however, is missing 4 pages (fault of factory, not me). I'll
include the original receipt for it so you can take advantage of the
remaining warranty period.

$120
------------

Maxtor 7120SR hard drive. 125MB, 3.5 inch SCSI embedded drive. Data
transfer rate of 960K/s @ 21ms. Manufacture date of 9/28/91. This
drive has seen little use! I bought it in November to replace an ailing
drive on my BBS. Now that I've taken down my BBS, I'd like to sell the
drive. It's a low-profile (1 inch high) drive. Nice and quiet, and
FAST! Paid $380 for it. Note that you have about 9 months left on the
warranty! I will include a copy of the original sales slip so you can take
advantage of said warranty (if you need to).

$330
------------

Magnavox RGB Monitor 80. This monitor accepts both digital RGB and
color composite signals, and has a front switch so you can go between
them on the fly. Looks to be about a 13 inch screen. Has sound capability
(RCA jack input). In very good condition. I used this monitor in
composite mode on my Amiga until I got an analog RGB monitor for it. You
can hook up such things as an IBM computer (with CGA card), VCR, Nintendo,
Atari XL/XE and Commodore 64/128. Owner's manual is included so you can
make specialty cables for the RGB port.

$90
------------

BMI monochrome monitor. A little old, but works just fine. Green
phosphor display, no sound. Ideal for use on older computers like
the Apple II series (which did not require sound). RCA jack for video
input.

$25
------------

Zenith Data Systems 2400 baud modem. Only used a few hours. This is
a "standard" modem, with Hayes compatibility and a size that fits easily
under a telephone. Has the standard 8 LEDs on the front, with power
switch on back. Includes manual.

$65
------------

Microcom AX/2400C modem. This is a 2400 baud modem featuring MNP
levels 1-5. Microcom invented MNP, and now you can have a real Microcom
modem! It's been on my BBS for about 3 months, but since I don't run a
BBS anymore, I'd like to sell this modem. It's got lots of dip switches
to set just about everything. Both asynchronous and syncronous operation
with a front switch. There is also a "talk/data" button on the front,
along with 7 LEDs. Owner's manual and original packaging included. This
modem features both full Hayes compatibility and Microcom's own protocol.

$90
------------

Amiga Software (all include boxes and manuals):

Alternate Reality: The City......$10
Major Motion.....................$10
TransWrite (latest version)......$40
Wings............................$30
Battle of Britain (LucasFilm)....$15
FirePower........................$10

------------
Atari ST Software (all include boxes and manuals):

Joust....................................$5
Great Battles (Napoleonic/Civil War).....$10
King of Chicago (Cinemaware).............$10
BattleHawks: 1942........................$15
Sub Battle Simulator.....................$10
Hole-In-One Mini Golf (2nd disk bad).....$2


_______________________________________________________________________
|| Chris Freemesser, RIT Comp.Eng.Tech. I'd rather have a bottle ||
|| BITNET: clf3678@ritvax in front of me..... ||
|| Usenet: clf3678@rit.ultb.edu .....than have a frontal ||
|| GEnie: C.FREEMESSER L O B O T O M Y ! ! ! ||
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: 28 Jan 92 18:10:57 GMT
From:
cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@cs.roch
ester.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: Anti-flamewar proposal.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I have to agree with all the ST gripes so far. Here are a few suggestions.

1) Atari has to out the idea that buss architectures make a computer
more expensive where it belongs, in the garbage. The added expense to
hack something to expand a non-expandable" machine is at least triple.
Look at the difference between internal and externa PC harware, for
instance.

2) I do not mind TOS in ROM (Well, I guess I mind TOS no matter where it
is!) But it is a bit intimidating to upgrade to those out there who are
techno phobes, or expensive tohave a dealer do. So here are two
suggestions.
a) put the TOS chips under a removable cover on a removale card.
Then upgrading is just a matter of slipping in a card. A piece of
circuitboar of this lack of complexity would only add at most a few buck
to the cost, and make the whole project more pallatable for many. Also,
it would alow a user to ugrade TOS without voiding their warranty (Is
Atari the only company left with a lame ass "
The users are too stupid to
be allowed to open their computer" policy?).

b) make TOS modular, So that to upgrade only bits and pieces, a
disk with patches could be used as a boot disk as well as the ROM, and
then the OS could be ugraded on disk until the user buys the ROMS, sorta
the way the macOS is (sorta). Imagine how much easier somethig like
neodesk would be to program. Or replacement VDI driver, QuickST, etc..

3) Kill the Tramiels (sorry, I couldn't resist :) )

4) Make the cartidge port read/write, with a much bigger data bus. Have
a software switch for compatibility.

5) Just use a better Power Supply. This is just plain bad engineering,
especially when there is no bus, causing expansion hacks to have to draw
inordinate amounts of power, or have ungainly external supplies.

6) Get the damn 24-bit VDI ot the damn door. What time is it? 1992?

7) include the new PDS in the notebook on all ST/TTs


All this should have been done ages ago, so I doubt it will be done now,
but it is nice to dream


mark

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Date: 28 Jan 92 16:58:57 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!atilghma@ar
izona.edu (Adam Tilghman)
Subject: BFJ International Orders ($279 Supra v.32bis)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

(I'm posting this because I've received >>10 requests for such info :)

In E-mail you write:
> In your article you mentioned a company that sels
> Supra modems at a good price. Could you email me their
> phone(or better still thei fax) number without that 800-
> prefix. Is that a reliable company?

BFJ, who are selling the v.32bis SupraFaxModem for US$279,
are located near Atlanta, but besides that I don't know about their
track record. From talking with their sales rep., they seem like a
reputable company.
You can reach them at 1-800-932-4712 (US/Canada), (404)998-8251
(voice), or (404)992-0448 (Fax).


-- adam

> Kimmo Lahtinen E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi
> Finnish Meteorological Institute Phone : +358 0 758 1322
> Possessed by a Spirit G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396
--
==== Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@sdcc13.ucsd.edu - (619)558-2141 ====
== "
Martha, fetch my rifle - thar's another UCSD ECE undergrad!" ==

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Date: 28 Jan 92 21:09:46 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.
ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!carter@arizona.edu
(Carter Gregory)
Subject: Darn brevity
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan28.004245.12805@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
(Ray) writes:
>In article <1992Jan27.114847.15361@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu
(Carter Gregory) writes:
>>You have to be joking guy, don't even try to compare AMIGA DOS with ANY
>>version of UNIX, especially the Mach version on the NeXT.
>>
> Dream on, you don't know what you're talking about. If AmigaDOS (
>actually exec.library) had memory protection and virtual memory, it
>would virtually be unix. Exec, like Mach, is not Unix, they are merely

Yes AMIGA DOS would virtually be UNIX, but it DOESN'T have these options,
and they aren't available period unless you buy a UNIX BOX or Package from
CBM. Which was my original point.

..
>If they are not in the same league, how come I can compile most
>Unix source's without changing anything? How a number of Exec and

Depends WHAT KIND of UNIX applications your talking about. I have UNIX
libraries too on my ST, with LOWLY TOS. But I can't compile rn and have
it run under TOS.

The fact is, you can't make claims about AMIGA DOS when it comes to running
UNIX applications of some weight like X-Windows under AMIGA DOS. You can't.
You need a fundamentally different software architecture to take advantage
of UNIX. Thats why people buy UNIX to run UNIX applications.

This is the point I was making.

>Dos functions have the same name as Unix counter parts?
>Exec is even object oriented!
>
>
> Well it lacks memory protection and virtual memory, but besides that,
>Mach doesn't have that much on it. Exec has the fastest context switch time
>of any multitasking OS, and its the reason why we don't have virtual

ANY Multitasking OS? Oh really now. Thats just a bit presumptuous...
and besides that you left out a critical point...depending on what CPU you
run a particular core program on, it could be slower or faster.

There is NOW WAY you can support that claim given the incredibly huge
variety of computers and software combinations out there.

>...
> Get a clue. The 3000 has a very fast memory and bus design. The Zorro III
>bus can reach speeds of over 40mb/s at 25mhz, and the 3000 uses
>burst/nibble SCRAM ZIPs, 32bit access to memory, and a custom chip, RAMsey,
>to manage RAM access so it knows when to use the SCRAM features.
>The NeXT is slow because Display Postscript is slow. I should know because

I don't doubt the AMIGA has an efficient bus design, its come a long way since
the A2000 days.

But here your comparing hardware to software, your bus to Postscript. The
NuBUS backplane on the next is quite fast, very fast. And not only that,
it doesn't have the double memory architecture the ZORRO III bus has to
negotiate between slow and fast RAM. The NeXT simply blows information
were it wills accross the bus. I know the handshaking for cards and
protocol is much simpler on the NeXT machine.

I don't know the exact specs for the NeXT backplane, but I bet they are
truly awesome indeed.

>I have an AMI 486/33, Tseng ET4000, running ESIX SVr4 with
>Motif, OpenLook, OpenWindows, and NeWS (Display Postscript). When I run
>NeWS it takes about 5 seconds to move a window, about 8 to resize it,
>and the whole time the mouse pointer jumps around the screen because
>the server is running in 100% interpreted postscript. If it's slow on
>a 486/33 w/16mb memory, 256k cache, imagine how slow it is on a 256 byte
>cache, 68030/25 with 8mb of memory.
>
> What this has to do with the pathetic ST I don't know.

I didn't post it as a ST rebuke, you simply made points that I feel were
very misleading about AMIGA DOS and the NeXT system capabilities.

-Greg

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Date: 29 Jan 92 00:52:47 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.
ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbfsb!cbnewsg.cb.att.com!ncherry@arizona.edu (neil
j.cherry)
Subject: Dead 520 ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I killed my ST! ;-{ But I may be able to revive it if I can find a place that
sell replacement chips. It died when I upgraded from 2.5 meg to 4.0 Meg. Any
help would be greatly appreciated. Or if someone has a 520 motherboard for
sale cheap .....

NJC

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Date: 28 Jan 92 14:38:19 GMT
From: sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!digi!rgoseweh@ames.arpa (Roy
Gosewehr)
Subject: Deskjet 500
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I have an HP DeskJet 500 (upgraded from the original DeskJet) and I love
it! It is quiet, reasonably fast, and has beautiful output. The output
compares favorably to my HP LaserJet III at work. (You have to look
real, real close to see the difference.) I don't use Tex or Ghostscript
but do use GDOS (actually G+PLUS), primarily with Easy-Draw (GEM
Metafiles) and Word-Up.

Be aware of a couple of things: 1) The printout *is sensitive* to
the paper stock that you use. Some paper will give really crummy
printouts and on others you could swear you had a laser printer. 2)
With GDOS fonts, the driver is very important. For most of my GDOS
programs I use the Migraph driver with excellent results. However,
the Word-Up fonts print better with the original Neocept TurboJet driver.

I have never regretted buying this (or the original) printer. I have
recommended it to many friends and not one has been unhappy with it. Go
for it!

Roy C. Gosewehr

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Date: 28 Jan 92 22:28:25 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!
munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu
(Warwick Allison)
Subject: Deskjet 500
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron) writes:

>Well, here we are only a day later, and I've received zillions, well, several
>replies already to my query about buying a DJ500. I'll summarise below:

> B U Y I T ! ! !

I don't know much about the DJ500, but the Canon Bubble Jets are also NLQ
(Near LASER Quality) 360dpi and all that, totally silent, and the ink is
DRY as soon as the paper comes out of the printer.

But the BJ10ex does take 10 minutes to print a page of graphics (until I get
my hands on a faster driver).


Warwick
--
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Date: 28 Jan 92 09:43:48 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!ucacmsu@uunet.uu.net (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Subject: pcditto software on a TT?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan27.043129.2193@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wmagro@roma.physics.uiuc.edu
(William Magro) writes:
>Has anyone tried the PCDitto software emulator on a TT? If so, does
>it work or no? If it does work, I wonder if the speed would be good
>enough to make it actually useful, unlike its speed on a regular ST.
>
>Let me know if you know....
>
>Thanks,
>
>--Bill


I tried it and it failed :-)

Then again I didn't expect it to work, the TT is such a different beast to
the ST.

Steve
--
Addresses:-
JANET:- ucacmsu@uk.ac.ucl or susher@uk.ac.csm
Internet:- ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk or susher@csm.ac.uk

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Date: 28 Jan 92 20:25:55 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.e
du!carter@arizona.edu (Carter Gregory)
Subject: Spectre users unite!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan24.165315.5787@unx.sas.com> snoret@egon.unx.sas.com (Rick
Tatem) writes:
>Yes! I think there is. And if you include people like me (who don't yet
>own a spectre but who are diligently scraping together every loose nickel
>and dime they have to get one) you would find quite a bit of interest.
>
>And with a newsgroup for spectre users, it would just help increase it's
>own size by giving those folks who (somewhat like me) have been living
>under a rock ( or just nowhere near an Atari dealer ... oops, I guess
>that's just about everybody :) the chance to learn more about the
>product and its capabilities, making it more likely that they'll get
>one.
>
>Just MH2CW,
>
>Rick
>----
>Rick Tatem __-__ _
>snoret@unx.sas.com =========@ ============ *#__===___
>UNIX Support ___\\____ / /_ `'%%%%%%%%*#*--(0)---\
>SAS Institute, Inc. \______________{ @* @

I don't think the Spectre GCR warrants a complete seperate group...yet.

Right now, if your at all serious about the Spectre GCR your on the MAC
group in rn, not in comp.sys.atari.st.

However, if Mr. Small delivers on his promise of a well designed hardware
accelerator board for current ST owners, the capabilities of such a board might
warrant a comp.sys.atari.sst group.

I hope Mr. Small gets the MEGA STE version out quickly, I have my check
waiting...


--Greg

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Date: 28 Jan 92 18:01:36 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!heifetz!math.fu-berlin.de!pbinfo!f
eanor!thomas@arizona.edu (Thomas Franken)
Subject: UNIXMODE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

First of all thank you for the quick respond to my request on my problems
concerning UNIXMODE and MiNT.

Secondly I have some questions on the Minix file-system:
- Is it true that the filename-length is restricted to 14 chars?
- Is the contens of mfs0541.zoo from aa suitable to the effort
of creating a Minix-like file-system and
- if it is suitable, do I need any additional sources for this purpose?

The most interesting thing for me to hear certainly was the information that
someone is working on an AUTO folder program as a realization of the
UNIXMODE. I'd like to know more about that...

Finally, if I try to write an appropriate file-system on my own, would it be
sensible to use the file `tosfs.c' from the MINIX sources as an idea and
basement to extract and modify in order to supply an alternative, UNIXMODE-able
file system?

Thomas Franken
thomas@cadlab.uni-paderborn.de

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Date: 28 Jan 92 17:00:20 GMT
From: duke!news.duke.edu!acpub.duke.edu!bigham@mcnc.org (Scott Bigham)
Subject: Various ST topics
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

From the Holy Book of <1992Jan28.142853.25040@actrix.gen.nz>
as spake by Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) :
>In article <999@news.duke.edu> bigham@acpub.duke.edu (Scott Bigham) writes:
>> [TeX] 3.1 is usable, just. I had room for FATSPEED and FOLDR080, and that
was
>> pushing it. [...]

>Why not get TOS 1.4 [...]

I did, hence the "
had." I have a bit more room now. :)

-sbigham
--
Scott Bigham | The opinions expressed above are
bigham@hercules.acpub.duke.edu | (c) 1991 Hacker Ltd. and cannot be
| copied or distributed without a
| Darn Good Reason(tm).

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Date: 28 Jan 92 20:02:31 GMT
From: mcrware!davek@uunet.uu.net (Dave Kimble)
Subject: Wanted: Hard disk for use with 1040ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I would like to finish a project that I started on the Atari 1040ST. I have
a friend here at work that has an STe that I can use but he doesn't have a
spare hard disk.

I would love to go back to work on the project, but I can't afford the
$450 that retailers have been happy to charge me.

If you have an Atari drive that you've had sitting under-utilized and you
would like to turn into cash (or a good quality check), please repond via
E-mail. Thanks a megabyte.

Dave Kimble


Internet: davek@MICROWARE.COM
UUCP: uunet!mcrware!davek

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