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Today's Topics:
ARJ? (2 msgs)
Atari ST games for sale pt1 (2 msgs)
Cable from STM to composite monitor
C compiler for sale
Ghostscript
Is Fcopy PRO a demo or not
Lattice C
mono monitor scrolling
Novice Needs Printer Driver Help
raster to IMG
Rufus with Matrix M110 possible?
SIMMS from a Mac SE into an ST?
Super Charger 286?
TeX, which do I get? (Now that I know where)
Wall Street Journal article
Why is fscanf function of Mark Williams "C" so slow?
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Date: 16 Sep 91 09:28:54 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!alchemy!piet@uunet.uu.net (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: ARJ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Is ARJ (or UNARJ) available for TOS?
--
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
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Date: 16 Sep 91 14:49:14 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!gmdzi!focke@uunet.uu.net (Stefan Focke)
Subject: ARJ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) writes:
>Is ARJ (or UNARJ) available for TOS?
>--
>Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
Yes. But only UNARJ.
Stefan Focke
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Date: 16 Sep 91 15:19:27 GMT
From: news.larc.nasa.gov!air12.larc.nasa.gov!dmk@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Atari ST games for sale pt1
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
OK netters, this is the continuation of the big Atari ST stuff sale
of the decade! This stuff is what is left from last weeks sale, plus a
few new items that I found hiding in the closet.
As before here are the conditions:
I don't know if this stuff runs with TOS 1.0, 1.4, or 2.0, some of
it is pretty old so it might not work with newer OS. NO GUARANTIES!
Second, I pay all shipping charges, except COD. Please add $3.00
if you want it shipped COD.
Finally, I have a special half price offer. You pay full price on the
most expensive item, and half price on all other stuff for that order
(that's how I pay for the shipping). No, if you ordered last week and
want some of the new stuff I will NOT give you half price on everything.
You will be treated as a new order (sorry, but it makes my paperwork
MUCH easier that way).
Games (new lower price):
Skyfox Electronic Arts $8
I don't remember much about this one. Flight Sim I think.
Tass Times in Tone Town Activision $8
A bizarre adventure game in an alternate reality. This one was
tough enough that I needed a hit book and couldn't find one.
Time Bandit Michtron $12
A classic! Several games in one as you move to different worlds
on the timescape. I may have trouble locating docs for this too.
Mindshadow Activision $8
A graphic adventure game. I could never get into it.
Ogre Origin $12
A computerized version of the Steve Jackson board game where a
super tank goes up against and entire platoon of inferior tanks.
I enjoy playing this with another player, but the computer opponent
was too tough for me.
Blacklamp Rainbird $8
I may be missing some docs on this. I could never figure out what
it was about. Much like Mario Brothers I think.
Borrowed Time Activision $8
Another graphic adventure.
Double Dragon Melbourne House $8
OK, OK, so it doesn't have a lot of depth, it's still fun to sit
down and kick, punch, gouge, etc. your way across the screen once
and a while (admit it).
Sub Battle Epyx $8
Submarine warfare. I have Red Storm Rising and don't need this.
Tracker Rainbird $12
3-D warfare. Fly a ship down a maze of tunnels to get to the center.
I loved this game, but it stopped working when I went to TOS 1.4
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Date: 16 Sep 91 15:20:21 GMT
From: news.larc.nasa.gov!air12.larc.nasa.gov!dmk@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Atari ST games for sale pt1
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
(continued from Atari ST stuff for sale pt 1)
Applications (also new lower price):
Easy Draw Migraph $20
This is an old version, maybe you can upgrade.
n-Vision Audio Light $12
Drawing program?
Micro C-Shell David Beckemeyer $15
For those who like CLI's instead of the Point-and-Shoot interface.
Professional VIP $15
A spreadsheet program.
Hardware:
Keyboard Springs Free
These are a set of springs that go under the keyboard to stiffen
them up. I liked the mushy keyboard better. These will go with
the first order to request them (you must order something else).
*** Can you believe no one asked for these. Come on people ***
*** they are FREE ***
New Stuff:
Breach $15
This is an interesting game where you as Squad Leader take your
platoon of Space Marines into strange and unusual raids. When
your done with the packaged senerio's, you can build your own with
the included construction set.
Gauntlet I $10
This is the two player version of the arcade game. I have Gauntlet II
which allows four players, so I don't need this anymore.
Harrier Combat Simulator $20
This is yet another flight sim, but has a unique twist. The Harrier
can't go balistic like American fighters, but it has greater
maneuverability. You can't run from a fight, or at least I couldn't.
Marble Madness $15
Another arcade game. This one I really enjoyed, I had to agonize several
hours before deciding to sell it. I've been through all the mazes, except
the last one. I will sell this one on the condition that you tell me
if you get through the last maze.
Music Construction Set $10
This is an OK music maker, but I have a MIDI keyboard now, and besides
I like Music Studio 88 better.
Super Bike Challenge $15
This is neat. A two player plus computer game. I enjoyed this, but
no longer find time or players to play with.
Test Drive $15
Nice game, but Stunt Car Racer is more where I'm at.
Universal Military Simulator $20
This is more for those who are really into accurate military simulations.
If your into Avalon Hill board games, your bound to like this.
Wanderer $10
A true 3-D game. Put on your 3-D glasses and watch the images swim
around in front of you. I was fascinated by the intro, I never played
the game.
I have thrown some of the boxes out, but will try to find them if
requested. If the price is too high, wait a week, I'll lower it. But
don't wait too long, it may be gone!
Daniel M. Koppen / Internet: dmk@air12.larc.nasa.gov
NASA / LaRC \ 128.155.18.12
Hampton, VA. / Everything posted is my own personal opinion!
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Date: 16 Sep 91 03:59:43 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!m.cs.uiuc.edu!vela!wsu-cs!wsu-eng.eng.way
ne.edu!soderg@arizona.edu (Jason Sodergren)
Subject: Cable from STM to composite monitor
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Sep14.002257.9952@odin.corp.sgi.com> stever@flatcat.wpd.sgi.com
(Steve Whitney) writes:
>Actually, my monitor is an amber monitor that I used to use with an Atari 800.
>I'm looking for a way to connect it to a spare ST to make it useful for my
girlfriend. Anyone know where I can get a cable that pulls out the composite
output from an ST's monitor port? I realize that this will only work in color
resolutions and that I'
...
I did just this with an Apple greenscreen and it worked just fine, but I
didn't have the rf modulator in my 1040, so I just passed the R,G,B outputs
from the solder pads where the mod. would have mounted thru pots, the Hsync and
Vsync thru small diodes, tied it all together, and connected it to an
RCA connector on the back.
The modulator should produce an equivalent signal, tho, if you have one in your
computer. According to ST Internals, the composite signal is on pin 2 of the
monitor connector (looking at the back of the computer, second pin from right
on top row) and ground is on pin 13 (very bottom pin).
--
- jason sodergren, soderg@ss0.eng.wayne.edu |v:313-972-5932
soderg@trace.eng.wayne.edu |
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Date: 16 Sep 91 20:16:17 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!male!thepond!wright
@arizona.edu (Bruce Wright)
Subject: C compiler for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
>>In article <8294@male.EBay.Sun.COM> wright@thepond.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>> FOR SALE:
>> LASER-C $125.00
>> C development system
>> by Megamax Inc.
>>
>> Micro-C shell $ 15.00
>> by Beckmyer Development Tools
>Good luck with that C compiler. If I remember it is NOT ANSI compatible
>and it hasn't been updated in years.
It has been 3 years since I purchased this compiler, it was very useful
for my purpose... learning C. The package seemed quite superior to the
IBM compilers other students were using, but you are right It is a few
years out of date.
>oh well, I'm looking for a UNIX machine myself!!
This I can understand, I went to work for Sun Micro about 2 1/2 years
ago and have since given my 520ST to my son who is starting college.
I would still like to get rid of this compiler so it can get some use,
but I could be way too high, I haven't priced anything fo the Atari for
a long itme, so I guess it might be in order to say...
someone make me an offer... I'm easy.
Bruce Wright
Sr. Manufacturing Engineer
Corporate Logistics Technical Services
MIL21-314 (408) 922-5054
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Date: 14 Sep 91 21:51:25 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!msi.umn.edu!g
acvx2.gac.edu!cobber!cobber.cord.edu!rollie@arizona.edu (Craig Servin)
Subject: Ghostscript
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I've been useing Ghostscript 2.2 for a while with a deskjet printer
and have noticed that the output is shifted down by one half inch.
I don't know if this fix is appropriate, but it works for me.
edit the file gs_init.ps
find the section that looks like this
/initgraphics {some junk } odef
and make it look like this
/initgraphics { some junk 0 36 translate } odef
all this does is moves the origin up by 1/2 inch(36 points) and since
initgraphics is called after every showpage it works for multiple page
printouts.
--
Rollie@cobber.cord.edu
Concordia College Moorhead, MN
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Date: 16 Sep 91 12:22:16 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nic.funet.fi!lahtinen@uunet.uu.net (Kimmo
Lahtinen)
Subject: Is Fcopy PRO a demo or not
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
There is a demo of Fcopy Pro. It came with TOS-magazine
(they are also selling Fcopy Pro), but if I remember right
it handles only single sided disks. I have it so if you like to
see it it can be arranged.
By the way I have also the real thing and I think it is worth the money.
I think the formating is a little bit faster and the manual is very nice
(if you read German). And I think the author needs to get some money
as I really use Fcopy so much.
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Kimmo Lahtinen E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi or
Finnish Meteorological Institute kimmo@field.fi
Phone : +358 0 758 1322
Possessed by a Spirit G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396
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Date: 16 Sep 91 11:35:09 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!phigate!alp!johnj@uunet.uu.net (John Janssen)
Subject: Lattice C
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Several years ago when I still had my 520 ST, I did make some programs
using Lattice C compiler. At some time I got a letter from METACOMCO
(in UK) that I could update my version to get the latest version.
I did update, but for some reason never used it since.
Now I have to use a C compiler on my MEGA STE for a small program
and I noticed that my latest Lattice C compiler was version 3.04
(This was printed on screen by the compiler during compiling).
The version I have includes the MENU+, DEBUG, KRSC, ansi C,
making accessoiries, etc.
(Those things were the major update reasons).
However, I see mails on the net talking about version 5.xx.
So I have the following questions:
1. Why did I never got an update mail since?
(Yes I know Metacomco is out of business, but
lattice C seems to be 'taken' over by someone else)
2. What are the major differences of these newer versions?
3. Can I expect major problems by using this old(?) version
on my new MEGA STE?
Thanks
John
--
--
John Janssen Email: johnj@echo.philips.nl
The Netherlands
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Date: 16 Sep 91 20:58:15 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!p
acific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!rlcollins@arizona.edu (Ryan 'Gozar'
Collins)
Subject: mono monitor scrolling
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Sep12.115041.29347@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>,
tppease@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GARY PEASE) writes:
> I recently purchased a 50 meg hardrive and a monochrome monitor for my 1040
> st. The st was bought around 1987 and is the original machine, no TOS
> updates, memory upgrade etc. It has alway worked fine with my color
> monitor. Now that I've got the hard drive and the mono I have the
> following problem. Whenever I copy file from A to the hard drive the
> monitor freaks out and just scrolls and has snow. If I reboot the system
> the problem goes away. Also I ran another program and the desktop came back
> shifted and part it was backwards?( It hard to explain what it looked like)
> The guy I bought it from suggested that maybe I need a TOS update? Can
> anyone help me. How can I troubleshoot the problem?
> Thanks
> Gary
Sounds like the same problem I had with my friends hard drive, which
also has the ICD adapter. I had to solder a capacitor onto the ICD board
which fixed the problem right away. (I called ICD and the guy I talked
to told me everything I had to do, it was pretty painless)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ryan 'Gozar' Collins Question for MAC Users: rlcollins@miavx1.BITNET
|||| Power Without What IS the format of a rc1dsanu@miamiu.BITNET
/ || \ The Price!! MAC HFS floppy disk? R.COLLINS1 on GEnie
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Date: 16 Sep 91 15:38:46 GMT
From:
pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!ryn.mro4.dec.com!rgb.dec.com!rost@decwrl.dec.com
(My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Novice Needs Printer Driver Help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I don't know if this is a FAQ, but being a relative novice to the ST world, I
have a question about printer drivers.
I currently have one printer, an ancient Okidata Microline 82. It has graphics
ROMs installed, but there's two problems:
1. It's not Epson graphics compatible
2. The driver example given in the docs is for an Apple II!!!
It works fine printing staright ASCII but I can't use it for screen dumps or
graphics. Not to mention neither of my WP packages supports it.
I'd like to write a driver but have no idea how to go about it. I guess I need
some sort of template with comments to work from. Or if someone actually has
written a driver for this thing, I'd love to get a copy of it.
Second question, I'm planning on buying a Pansonic 1123 in the near future. As
this is a 24-pinner, I'll need a driver for this puppy too. Does anyone have a
source for this? If it helps, it is supposedly compatible with Epson LQ-850.
Third question, how do I get the drivers to run from the desktop to allow
screen dumps? I.e. how do I do the equivalent of "install printer"?
Brian Rost @rgb.dec.com
508-568-6115
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* my employer. *
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* If music is outlawed, only outlaws will be *
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Date: 16 Sep 91 10:16:08 GMT
From: mcsun!chsun!zellweger!wagg@uunet.uu.net (Georg Wagner)
Subject: raster to IMG
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Does anybody out there know how to convert a copy of the screen or part
of the screen created with raster copy format in the IMG-format.
Could You send me an algorithm our source in C or even better in M2.
Many thanks.
Georg
-------------------------------------------------------------------
G. Wagner
Zellweger AG
Uster, Switzerland
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Date: 16 Sep 91 13:14:16 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!psuvax1!psuvm!frmop11!dearn!dmswwu1c!onm07@ari
zona.edu
Subject: Rufus with Matrix M110 possible?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <A0bbqgs2@pfunk.hanse.de>, blackbox@pfunk.hanse.de (Michael
Kistenmacher) says:
>[...]
>or do you have AMCGDOS ? You should use AMCGDOS in Version 3.2 to run on
>your ST. A friend of mine uses Rufus without GDOS, because he uses DAVI
>as monitor driver, which doesn't allow GDOS to be installed.
I can't believe this. Did he try both ways to install it (in front of GDOS or
behind)? BTW: well writte software should be run on any place in the auto
folder...
>
>Bye......Michael
>
>--
>/------------------------------------\
>| Michael Kistenmacher / blackbox |
>| 2000 Hamburg 61 / Schippelsweg 64 |
>| West Germany / ++ 49 40 552 37 66 |
>\------------------------------------/
___________________________ cut here _____________________________________
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fast eMail: ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET, slow: jr@ms.maus.de (++49 251 77216)
____________________ correct me if I'm wrong _____________________________
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Date: 16 Sep 91 00:53:29 GMT
From: psinntp!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@nyu.arpa (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: SIMMS from a Mac SE into an ST?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I've got access to 1 meg worth of memory pulled from a MacSE
(I believe it is in the form of 256K simms). I was wondering
if it is possible to use this memory in a 520ST? If so, what
would I do to install it, and how much total memory would it
give me?
--Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
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Date: 16 Sep 91 13:49:36 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.c
tr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@arizona.edu
(Christopher M Mauritz)
Subject: Super Charger 286?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Sep14.182748.26712@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu
(Gregory Carter) writes:
>
>You get much better performance than an Classic System, lots more memory,
>in my case twice the speed, I own a MEGA STE. Far lower price too.
>
>I also think that given the type of systems we are comparing, Apple system
>software vs. Atari crud called TOS, the benefits go way beyond savings
>on the dollar.
>
>I don't even think I have to go into detail here, anybody with any common
>sense at all, or is on a budget, knows what I am talking about.
Well, you're comparing apples <grin> and oranges here. We were discussing
peecee emulation. However, in reference to Spectre I would agree with you.
This is one instance where the emulator is better than the real thing
in terms of cost/performance. BUT you still have lots of campatibility
problems. Just check out one of Dave Small's newsletters and look at
the compatibility list. A lot of things work and there are quite a few
things that don't work as well.
Regards,
Chris
--------------+----------------------------------------------------------
Chris Mauritz |Homebrewing: The only hobby perfectly tailored for
| anal retentive alcoholics. :-)
--------------| (ripped off from someone on the net...)
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Date: 16 Sep 91 13:57:22 GMT
From: netcomsv!yonder@decwrl.dec.com (Christopher Russell)
Subject: TeX, which do I get? (Now that I know where)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Well, I had no luck ftp'ing to the koeln site, but the 129.69.1.12
site works..and there is so much TeX stuff there I don't know what to
get... And the connection is pretty slow..
Here's what I got doing an ls of the TeX directory:
Lindner-TeX:
Lindner-TeX.packed-disks:
Ridderbusch-TeX:
bammi-TeX:
cs-tex:
driver:
passautex:
texutils:
Which of these versions should I use? The CS version looks pretty
good... Somebody meantioned the Lindner version in a message to me.
What is the passautex? There is TeXdraw stuff in both the texutils
and passautex directories....
Hey, looks like I might get TeX working after all, looks like now
all I got to do is pick a version and spend a week unpacking and
setting up files.... thanks.....
--
Christopher L. Russell (yonderboy) Phone: (408)378-9078 Campbell,CA
yonder@netcom.COM or clr40@amail.amdahl.com or chrisr@leland.stanford.edu
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Date: 16 Sep 91 17:04:34 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!
pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!midway!machine!chinet!saj@arizona.edu (Stephen
Jacobs)
Subject: Wall Street Journal article
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
There was a big article in today's Wall Street Journal about palmtops. It
seems that every player in the field was mentioned EXCEPT FOR Atari and Poqet,
who somehow seem to be the most obvious players. This is about the third time
WSJ has left Atari out of an article on palmtops (the first time they've
forgotten Poqet, though). It would be a nice test of Atari's corporate
fitness to zip WSJ enough canned information so that the next article on
palmtops will include Atari stuff.
Steve
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Date: 16 Sep 91 08:22:14 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu
!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!NewsServ!pfaller@arizona.edu (Matthias Pfaller
(Betr. Glavina))
Subject: Why is fscanf function of Mark Williams "C" so slow?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I had the same problem and it is not the fault of fscanf/scanf
but the fault of ftoa. get the ftoa from the bsd-clib for the vax.
the vax uses the same floating point format and the bsd ftoa is
about 10-20 times faster then mwc's.
Matthias (leo @ marco.de)
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