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Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 16 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 22

Today's Topics:
1040st CHEAP
4Mb upgrades...please help (2 msgs)
Atari 1040ST for sale
AUTO Folder Programs -- How do they replace system functions?
Can a SC1224 be used with IBM compat.?
Drakkhen
free memory (2 msgs)
HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter)
hooking up 810/1050 drive to ST
IBM software emulator
info
MIDIFILE player program
Monitor question
SST (68030) for the ST. 520ST?
Tos 2.06 (2 msgs)
Uniterm on larger screens?
Uniterm Tetronic Graphics emulation
Unzooing big files on one drive
Updated Mega 4 being parted out
What to do?

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Date: 16 Jan 92 18:33:46 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mp
s.ohio-state.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!mpl44572
@arizona.edu (Ender)
Subject: 1040st CHEAP
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I'm Still trying to sell my 1040st with 1 meg of RAM, color monitor, mouse.
(Everything standard) TOS 1.0. for $250 + shipping.

(Will barter a bit... )

Mark

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Date: 16 Jan 92 11:05:29 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac
.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: 4Mb upgrades...please help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <randallm.695303986@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> randallm@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Martin
Randall) writes:
>
> Can anyone out there recommend a good upgrade 4Mb upgrade for a
> 1040STF (TOS 1.0) ? Many thanks.
>
> Martin Randall
> ______________

Well the Evesham Micros has a nice looking SIMM one,
but it must be soldered in, there are NO ram upgrades
sold here in NZ, because 99.9% are of a plug in nature,
but they fall out and cause damage to the MMU sockets..

And Please get TOS 1.4, its far better, and less of a insult
in using a Atari...

Get some one to put SIMMS/SIPS in your machine, there are 2 files on how
to do it, they should be on A.A...
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***

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Date: 16 Jan 92 13:10:12 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!nstar!syscon!miked@a
rizona.edu (Mike DeMetz)
Subject: 4Mb upgrades...please help
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

randallm@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Martin Randall) writes:


> Can anyone out there recommend a good upgrade 4Mb upgrade for a
>1040STF (TOS 1.0) ? Many thanks.

ZRAM looks good as does BEST Electronics. I just put in one from
some place in Texas put it requires unsoldering/soldering.
(I think Best's does too).

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Date: 16 Jan 92 19:32:04 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rpi!bu2.bu.edu!bu.edu!bu-pub.bu.edu!alkis@ariz
ona.edu (Alkis Kornilios)
Subject: Atari 1040ST for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

Atari 1040ST with 1 MB memory, SC1224 Color High and Medium resolution Monitor
and 3.5" 800K disk drive. 60 floppy disks ( worth $120 ) with software plus
Circuit Maker ( bought for $90 ), True Basic language ( bought for $150).
The Atari 1040ST is also IBM PC and Mac compatible with appropriate hardware
or software. Asking for $600. Email me at alkis@bass.bu.edu. I can ship it
thru UPS and you can pay COD. Thanks in advance.

-Alkis

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Date: 15 Jan 92 11:31:54 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu
!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!unido!
mcsun!uknet!newcastle.ac.uk (Craig Graham)
Subject: AUTO Folder Programs -- How do they replace system functions?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I'm unable to help you about installing programs such as you describe from
pascal or C, but the way it's done from assembly language is to modify interupt
vectors in low ram.
There is no reason to write another bomb-out error handler as one already exists
in the PD. I think it was published on the STFORMAT cover disk, but sohuld be
available at atari.archive, and is called NOBOMB.PRG.
I'll post example code of how to install interupt vectors from assembly language
if you're still interested.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>CRAIG GRAHAM>>>>>>>>>>
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-POP WILL EAT ITSELF. This is the day, this is the hour, this is this....

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Date: 16 Jan 92 18:50:06 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!rcarter@uunet.uu.net (Ron Carter)
Subject: Can a SC1224 be used with IBM compat.?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

Well, I have always heard this question asked the other way around (ie
can you use a `regular' monitor with an ST) but...

I have a friend who is `required' to get a for-real IBM compat. but
wants to keep the color monitor from the ST (SC1224) to use with the
compat... Any hacks, predone cables, whatever that does this?

Send email and I will summarize for the group if there is interest.

Thanks, Ron.

--
Ron Carter | rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu rcarter GEnie 70707.3047 CIS
Director | Center for the Study of Creative Intelligence
Denver, CO | Knowledge is power. Knowledge to the people. Just say know.

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Date: 16 Jan 92 17:50:26 GMT
From: apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Rick_Michael_Cortese@ames.arpa
Subject: Drakkhen
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I don't know about hints, but what do you think about the game? I was
thinking about buying it. BTW: I think it just came out for the NES so if
there aren't hint books out for it now, there probably will be shortly.

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Date: 13 Jan 92 13:50:57 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!math.fu-berlin.d
e!uniol!unido!mcsun!uknet!newcastle.ac.uk!turing!n03ls@arizona.edu (Jane
Fothergill)
Subject: free memory
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

Does anyone know how much memory should be free on a 1040 without extended
memory, when booted up?? I'm not convinced that my machine is all it claims to
be, about 420 k

Jane Fothergill
(J.S>Fothergill@uk.ac.newcastle)

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Date: 16 Jan 92 13:54:50 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!darwin.sura.net!Siriu
s.dfn.de!mailgzrz!math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!unido!news.uni-bielefeld.de!techfak.u
ni-bielefeld.de!itschere@arizona. (Torsten Scherer)
Subject: free memory
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

J.S.Fothergill@newcastle.ac.uk (Jane Fothergill) writes:
|>
|> Does anyone know how much memory should be free on a 1040 without extended
|> memory, when booted up?? I'm not convinced that my machine is all it claims
to
|> be, about 420 k
|>

I'm not sure if the EXTENTED MEMORY has got anything to do with
an ATARI, but normally a 1040 ST should have at least 800KB of
free memory. That number is of cource decreased for each TSR
(Terminate ans Stay Resident) such as the AHDI and every *.ACC
you are using. If you've got all six accessories installed and
are using quite a lot drivers or other AUTO-folder programs, it
may of course happen that there are only 420K left. You should
remove unnessesary accessories and drivers to gain more free
memory, since it is not so easy to install more in an 1040.

Greetings
TeSche

itschere@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de

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Date: 16 Jan 92 11:55:38 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!fauern!un
ido!mcsun!uknet!cf-cm!news@arizona.edu (Andrew F Stratton)
Subject: HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

Can anyone help with :-

1. Are there versions of arc, zoo, lharc that run on SUN 4's or VAX?

2. Does anyone know where I can get the documentation for gdb?

3. Is there a program available that lets you use the ST as a
typewriter (v useful for filling forms)?

Thanks in advance,
Andy.Stratton.
--
Parallel Processing Support Officer
University of Wales College of Cardiff

email:stratton@uk.ac.cf.cm

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Date: 16 Jan 92 17:43:01 GMT
From: apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Rick_Michael_Cortese@ames.arpa
Subject: hooking up 810/1050 drive to ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

I think I have the pin-out for the Xformer cable somewhere, but it'd
take me a month or two to find it <grin>. If you don't need Xmodem transfer
there's a file on Atari Base (408) 745-2193 that shows how to hack a
joystick cable to RS232 (RS232JOY.ARC) it'll go to 19,200 BAUD, but the ST
can't capture that fast. For regular handshake type stuff, Xmodem, you
can only go to 300 BAUD, but it will do two way transfers.

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Date: 16 Jan 92 17:27:05 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!gumby!obryan@arizona.edu
(Mark O'Bryan)
Subject: IBM software emulator
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <060192.120924ZWQ017@DMSWWU1C.BITNET> Bjarne Pohlers
<zwq017@dmswwu1c.BITNET> writes:
> In article <1992Jan02.171151.14033@disk.uucp> unknown@disk.uucp (unknown)
writes:
> >
> >Why not just make a program that converts an IBM program to an ST runnable
> >one? I'm not really concerned with graphical programs, just basic IBM
> >compat. ones.. Wouldn't it be possible to load the program into memory
> >and spend a few minutes to convert it? Then you could have a somewhat
> >faster application, and it could be used without loading a special emu.
>
> It is nearly impossible to write such a program.

This can be done (and HAS been done) if the conversion program has some
input from the developers of the program being converted. It's been over
a year since I read about it, so I don't remember all the details (it
might possibly have been XDOS?), but a company came out with a conversion
program that could translate PC programs to run on 68000 workstation
platforms. They then collaborated with several major developers to pro-
vide "hint" files for their important applications.

> Imagine, you had as much memory as a computer
> (which you do) you would not be able to convert a program without
> thinking. These are also the reasons why there are not any perfectly
> working disassemblers.

Hmm? I can't compile a program without thinking either, but that
doesn't stop perfectly working (well, almost! ;-) compilers from
existing.

--
Mark T. O'Bryan Internet: obryan@gumby.cc.wmich.edu
Western Michigan University
Kalamazoo, MI 49008

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 15:47:24 SET
From: UPH436%DDOHRZ11.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject: info
To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

info

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Date: 16 Jan 92 12:57:15 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.df
n.de!fauern!unido!mcsun!sun4nl!phigate!alp!johnj@arizona.edu (John Janssen)
Subject: MIDIFILE player program
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

=================================================
I tried to crosspost, but it failed.
So sorry, if you see this posting more than once.
=================================================

Hi everybody,

I post this mail to the net, as I received some mails asking
about the status of the MIDIFILE play program which I am
programming.

Yes, I am still busy making this midi program.
Yes, version 1.0 will be public domain!
Yes, the program comes with a help function,
however a manual can be ordered (see below).
I think beta testing (using vesion 0.9) will start begin februari,
and that 1.0 will be sent via usenet later that month.

#DEFINE ATARI_ST ON
As the initial program is written for atari st, I will try to
get it distributed via comp.binaries.atari.st and then to be
placed on atari.archive.
#DEFINE ATARI_ST OFF

#DEFINE MS-DOS ON
After finishing it for atari st, I planned to port it to MS-DOS too.
For use with MPU-401 interface (dumb mode).
The program also comes with a description how to make your own
(minimum) midi interface which is sufficient for this program.
If someone sends me programming details about pc-midi interfaces,
I might include those as well.
I think, I will start porting in april.
#DEFINE MS-DOS OFF


For those who missed the initial posting in december, here is some
information again:

The program is very nice for people who wants to do something
with computers and midi, but do not know what software to buy.
It gives you some ideas of the possibilities.
However, it also handy for people who already have midiprograms
(like me) and wants to spread his songs to other people (E.g.
for rehearsings) not having those nice professional midiprograms
with their hardware protections (keys, dongles, etc).
Furthermore, it is just fun!
There are loads of midifiles around on BBS boards and on
public domain floppies, which can be used by this program.

#DEFINE ATARI_ST ON
The program uses gem (on atari) and is fully mouse driven.
It can be run in color (medium resolution) and monochrome (high res.).
It will probably work with the newer screen modes as well, but I
have no possibility to test it.
#DEFINE ATARI_ST OFF

The program can play the songs stored in midifile format 0 and 1 (*.MID).
When format 0 midifile is loaded, midi events using different
midi channels will be handled as being on different tracks.
The program can handle up to 99 tracks.
The program allows certain events to be filtered.
Tracks can be muted.
Each track can be assigned to a midi channel for fast converting.
Each track can initialise the sound by transmitting a program change event.
Each track can initialise volume setting of the connected midi device.
Each track can have its notes transposed.
Each track can have its notes converted via mapping (for drum tracks).
The program holds two mappings which can be modified, loaded and saved.
Each track can be analysed with an event editor showing all the midifile
events loaded (incl. all midifile specific stuff like meta events).
Tempo of the song can be initialised.
Tempo of the song can be relatively changed (still following all
tempo changes which might be in the midifile already).

Some planned features for future versions of the program are:

Files can be saved, having the midifile format converted.
Changes can be made to events in the event editor.
During midifile loading, events can be filtered for min. memory usage.
Auto start playing midifile(s) at start-up of the program.
..

As written above, the program includes a help function
which gives some information how to use the program.
However, I am writing a manual (in English, German and Dutch)
which goes in the details of the program and gives hints how
to use the program in a practical way. The manual comes with
appendixes, including the following:
- An introduction for novice midi users;
- A list and explination of midi events;
- An explination (in detail) of midifiles.

The program is free, but not the manual (but, as said before,
you do not necessarily need the manual to use the program).

Oh yeah, I forgot:
The name of the program will be: PLAYBACK.

More news will follow next month when distributed.

John
--
--

--
John Janssen Email: johnj@echo.philips.nl
The Netherlands

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Date: 16 Jan 92 13:12:52 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!nstar!syscon!miked@a
rizona.edu (Mike DeMetz)
Subject: Monitor question
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

dcd123@peach.ucsb.edu (Hanson) writes:

>Greetings. I am building an interface cable for the monitor port.
>Can I hook up the monochrome & ground? If so, do I need to raise the
>monochrome select pin with the 12v on the port as well? Any advice is
>welcome. I have a monochrome monitor and a color tv and would like to
>be able to see something. BTW it is a 1040STf

The mono dectect pin is taken to ground for mono and open for color.
In mono your montior must have 70Hz vertical. There is composite
availible on some STs (on all with modulator).

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Date: 16 Jan 92 16:24:40 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.
csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!clyde.concordia.ca!IRO.UMontreal.CA!JSP.UM
ontreal.CA!u1398@arizona.edu (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: SST (68030) for the ST. 520ST?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <ei9ieB2w164w@status.gen.nz> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>dillenbu@bert.eecs.uic.edu (John Dillenburg) writes:
>
>> Mega. IF you don't mind putting your ST in an AT case, then the SST
>> is electrically compatible with the old STs. AS of yesterday, the SSTs
>
> --> Hey do not knock it .. An ST in a clone case works well take it
> from me this message is written on such a machine!

If you put your ST motherboard in an another case, what about the keyboard?
Is there a way to remove the ST keyboard, add wire, and use it separately,
like the Mega's? Will the whole plastic board just sit there, ugly and all?

> _
> Jon Clarke o( ) STaTus BBS, The Atari BBS in Auckland, NZ
> jonc@status.gen.nz / /\ If that does not work try these address's
> Auckland,New Zealand kcbbs.gen.nz!status!jonc or on GEnie : J.CLARKE6

/\ what is that guy doing?
--
Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen
der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht
fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in
das pockets, relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!!! ------------- :-) ------

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Date: 16 Jan 92 14:25:36 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!nstar!syscon!miked@a
rizona.edu (Mike DeMetz)
Subject: Tos 2.06
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

lchd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ling Cherd Ho) writes:

>I have some questions and hope someone can help:
>I have a 1040Ste manufactured in '90 with Tos 1.6
>Can I replace the old Tos with the New Tos 2.06?
>Do I just replace the chips?
No requires adapter board.

>By the way how many chips are there and where are they located in
>the Ste?
>and finally where can I get the cheapest Tos 2.06? from Codehead?
Codehead sells the adapter with the ROMS

>Thanks

>....
> Ling Cherd

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Date: 16 Jan 92 16:32:12 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!atilghma@ar
izona.edu (Adam Tilghman)
Subject: Tos 2.06
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan16.142536.1089@syscon.rn.com> miked@syscon.rn.com (Mike
DeMetz) writes:
>lchd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ling Cherd Ho) writes:
>>I have a 1040Ste manufactured in '90 with Tos 1.6
>>Can I replace the old Tos with the New Tos 2.06?
>>Do I just replace the chips?
>No requires adapter board.

Actually, for _MOST_ STe's, it's just a plug-in replacement.
If you have TOS 1.60 installed, you might need to desolder the
old ROM chips - but if you have socketed chips, you only need to
replace the chips and clip two jumpers (the chips are located
beneath the floppy drive).

>
>>By the way how many chips are there and where are they located in
>>the Ste?
I called Codehead and ordered the ROMs on 1/6/92, and
supposedly they will ship on the 22nd... Since the are a "dealer
item" (codehead's words), you can buy them elsewhere.


--
==== Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@sdcc13.ucsd.edu - (619)558-2141 ====
== "Martha, fetch my rifle - thar's another UCSD ECE undergrad!" ==

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Date: 16 Jan 92 17:15:31 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!gumby!obryan@arizona.edu (Mark
O'Bryan)
Subject: Uniterm on larger screens?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1996@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> jeroen@phil.ruu.nl (Jeroen Scheerder) writes:
>
> Alas, I paid no attention back then, but would be interested in the patches
> now - I just installed PixelWonder and thus now display 768x480 pixels on my
> SM 124.

Jeroen, if you could say a bit more about PixelWonder, I am sure there are
several of us who would like to hear it. How does it compare to Auto-
Switch OverScan? And significant pro's or con's?

--
Mark T. O'Bryan Internet: obryan@gumby.cc.wmich.edu
Western Michigan University
Kalamazoo, MI 49008

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Date: 16 Jan 92 12:47:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!math.fu-b
erlin.de!fub!geminix.in-berlin.de!tertius.in-berlin.de!gaertner@arizona.edu
Subject: Uniterm Tetronic Graphics emulation
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan15.205408.25410@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
lchd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ling Cherd Ho) writes:
> Can anyone tell me what I can do with the Tektronic (sp?) Graphics
> terminal emulation in the Uniterm?
>
> Thanks
>
> ....
> Ling Cherd
> .

You can view (graphics) output which is designed for Tektronix terminals.

Ralf

%%%%%%%%%%%
Ralf Gaertner gaertner@rz-berlin.mpg.de
FHI Berlin

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Date: 16 Jan 92 05:07:45 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.ed
u!homer.cs.mcgill.ca!chuckies@arizona.edu (Charles Savoie)
Subject: Unzooing big files on one drive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan15.132654.6403@fwi.uva.nl> storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C.
Storm (I89)) writes:
>
>Can anybody tell me how to unzoo a acrhived program(500 K) if
>you have only one drive.
>
>Zoo.ttp and the file just fit on the disk.
>
>Is using the file in a ram-disk a solution then tell me please
>how to redirect the unpacked files to drive A. If the unpacked files are
written on the ram disk is runs out of memory .
>
>Thanks.
> Richard.


The ram-disk *is* a solution. Do this: copy zoo.ttp to your A: disk,
and make sure the rest of the disk has plenty of room. Copy the
zoo'd file to your ramdisk. Then use zoo.ttp with the following
parameters:

e D:\zoofile.zoo

where D is the letter of your ramdisk. Zoo will read from the ramdisk
and plop the uncompressed files to your A: drive. (This works with
arc and lharc also, btw...)

For a big file like 500K, though, you would need at least a meg
of RAM (I guess this might be obvious).

Charles.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Charles J. Savoie | THE word for the 90's: | chuckies@cs.mcgill.ca|
| | WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! | |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: 16 Jan 92 16:20:21 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!think.com!spdcc!dirtydog.ima.isc.com!isp
d-newsserver!laidbak!ericth@arizona.edu (Eric Thiele)
Subject: Updated Mega 4 being parted out
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

Posted for a friend...

Atari Mega 4 ST/mouse/pad $750
Megafile 30MB hard drive 250
SM124 HiRes Mono Monitor 100
SOLD! SF314 3.5" floppy 75
SLM804 Laser Printer 650
(includes Brand New Drum)

Software
Pagestream 1.8 $ 50
1st Word Plus 25
Turbo ST accelerator 15
Diamondback II 25
Cardfile 3 25
Universal Item Selector 25
Thunder spell checker 25
DEGAS paint program 10
Touch Up graphics program 25
Scan Art clip art program 25
Data Manager ST 25

and more...!

Package Price: $1500

Call Darryl Hedges (708) 369-3656

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Date: 16 Jan 92 10:56:15 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Rog
er.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: What to do?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu

In article <1992Jan15.140754.32779@link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk> ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr
Stephen R Usher) writes:
> In article <1992Jan14.131837.15495@syscon.rn.com> carl@syscon.rn.com (Carl
Kreider) writes:
> >I just gave my wife my old 520 so I need something new. What about the
> >TT? Is it fast (or slow like the Amiga 030)? Where is the best place
> >to get one? Where do you find hardware details (like the Abacus books
> >for the 520)? Should I take a current model or wait for the 1.44MB
> >floppy version? How much better than a multi-synch is the Atari color
> >monitor? Or should I get a Mega STE and a Small 030 board?
>

>
> The Atari "Multi-sync" monitor is expensive (at least here in the UK, about
> 450 pounds = about $850US). The only thing it has going for it is that it
> "knows" about the TT resolutions and so gets the aspect ratio correct for
> them (unless you switch it to VGA mode using the switch at the back :-)).


This far to dear for the Atari monitor, they are only $450us, this is why
they don't sell them here in NZ, all you get here is some VGA monitor
with very pore sreen aspect ratio..

This another thing that Atari suffed up, why did they not use the
VGA standard ,will they ever learn

The TT monitor would end up costing some $1500nz, for that here
you can bye the NEC 3D, and most VGA's go for some $500nz and the Super
ones for $800/900nz..


> --
> Addresses:-
> JANET:- ucacmsu@uk.ac.ucl or susher@uk.ac.csm
> Internet:- ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk or susher@csm.ac.uk


--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***

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