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Info-Atari16 Digest Tue, 28 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 51
Today's Topics:
Anti-flamewar proposal.
ATARIANS! WHERE ARE YOU?! (2 msgs)
blitter questions
Crack Art
D70 sound saver program at archive.cs.ruu.nl
D70 sound saver program uploaded.
Darn brevity (2 msgs)
Darn brevity (And all those stupid Amiga/Next msg's)
Deskjet 500
gnuemacs and ispell
How to hook a Microsoft bus mouse to the ST
pcditto software on a TT?
Questions about TOS versions
spectre problem w/ aztec shell
Spectre users unite!
Supra Interface PROBLEM: SOLVED
Various ST topics
VORTEX ATonce 386SX for MSTE's
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Date: 26 Jan 92 07:22:39 GMT
From: noao!ncar!hsdndev!wupost!usc!cheshire.oxy.edu!oxy!leavitt@arizona.edu
(Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Anti-flamewar proposal.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Why do I hate my PC?
It is a 286... it is functionally obslete. It is not a good game machine.
I've put too much money into it... for what I spent a year ago, I could
have an awesome machine of some other sort.
Why do I like my PC?
The standard machine. Everything available for it if I could afford it.
Parts are cheap. It is modular (I'm not afraid to open up the case and
fuck with things... it is easy). So, for instance, when my motherboard
dies... at it is in the process of doing... all I have to do it opne
up the machine, yank the thing out, and pop another in.
Peripherals are cheap.
Disk controllers cost $11... add 2 serial ports and a parallel, and
the price is $24. I *never* pay retail. There are tons of used parts
out there... the swaps are dominated by PC parts... I can buy a used
40 meg ide drive, add an $11 controller, and I'm set. I don't have
to pay $129 for a disk controller, like I've seen elsewhere. 20
meg used drives go for $30...
However, I costs $1000 to get a basic machine, vs. $500 for a
basic ST/Amiga (Macs, on the other hand).
Anyway, I'm working on getting an Amiga... if anyone will sell me
an ST for $175 (how much would it cost to hook it to my multi-sync?)
I might consider it as well.
Anyway, entertainment wise, I feel IBMs suck, which is why I'm
looking into the Amiga/Atari sectors...
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Date: 26 Jan 92 06:52:55 GMT
From: noao!ncar!hsdndev!wupost!usc!cheshire.oxy.edu!oxy!leavitt@arizona.edu
(Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Atarians! Where Are You?!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
"fragmented disks"? why not defragment them?
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Date: 27 Jan 92 07:28:13 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!news.dell.com!uudell!fquest!FredMail@arizo
na.edu (Mark Spacek)
Subject: ATARIANS! WHERE ARE YOU?!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
rjc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray) wrote:
> Yes, all new Amiga's come with AmigaDOS 2.0 and the ECS Agnus/Denise
>chips. (Incidently, the ECS allows you to have 2mb of video "chip" ram)
>The Denise is the video controller chip. The new denise offers
>programmable scan rates up to 70hz (probably more). The ECS, unlike
>the flicker fixers, outputs 640x480 at VGA frequencies, or 1280x200.
>There are new interlaced modes like 1280x400 and 640x960 which are nice
>for titling work. The new Denise also offers new types of external
>syncing (genlocking), including chroma keying (overlaying live video
>on top of graphics which is the reverse of genlock), bitplane keying,
>and genlocking to any color register.
What do you mean by 'new'? My best friend just bought a new Amiga 500 and it
didn't come with AmigaDos 2.0 and the ECS Agnus/Denise and he can't use the
productivity mode thats being discussed without spending quite a bit of money
to upgrade it...
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Date: 27 Jan 92 21:17:59 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ukma!wupost!csus.edu!nic.csu.net!csun.edu!kithrup!hoptoad!wet!ekrim
en@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen)
Subject: blitter questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <53264@cup.portal.com> Azog-Thoth@cup.portal.com (William Thomas
Daugustine) writes:
>
>Hiyas. Ive got a 520STe and am wondering if there is a program of
>some sort that I could run to see the difference between turning
>the blitter on and off. I chose blitter on from the desktop, and
>from any program I run thatll accept it, but I am just wondering
>just exactly what it does... (I dont see a difference between
>when I turn it off, try things, and turn it on again... btw: if
>it makes any difference, I am using a mono monitor)
Rats, you don't have a color monitor. Well, if you ever get a chance
to hook up the STE to a TV (color preferably :~) , get a copy of the
Bird demo. I'm pretty sure it's at atari.archive; it's very old too, but
does a good job at showing what the blitter can do. Run it with the
blitter on and run it with the blitter off. The demo shows a bird
flying across the screen with a seascape background.
On a monochrome monitor, if you have a copy of a paint program which will
show a block of the screen when you move it around to paste it, you can
use that (with blitter on and off) to see what affect the blitter has.
For most uses however, QuickST, TurboST, or NVDI are best. If you're
doing a lot of graphics and/or animation work, the blitter will be useful
to you.
--
||| Ed Krimen
||| ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen
/ | \ E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
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Date: 28 Jan 92 08:27:57 GMT
From: nevada.edu!jimi2!equinox!pyramid.cs.unr.edu!chan@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Crack Art
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
A few posts earlier, someone wrote about a great PD art program on atari.
archive.umich.edu...
I ftp'ed it (crackart.lzh approx. 250k) and unlzh'ed it!
Got it running...
All I can tell you is WOW! Every ST user must try it once! Seems to support
ST/TT users! Load Degas, Crack Art, Neo, Spectrum, IFF, ... (?!).
Tons of great features BUT the docs are in German (yet the prg itself is
English...) The crackart.txt is 120k long...
Anybody know of a English version? of the text file????
If the programmers read this please respond (apologies: don't have the info
in front of me (names, etc))...
(Better than Degas!!!)
Later...
__________ _______
/ ________() Kaho Chan(man) / /
/ / L_____ University of /* /
/ /_/_____() Nevada, Reno \ /
/_________ Internet: \ /
L________() chan@cs.unr.edu \/~
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Date: 28 Jan 92 15:57:10 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!alchemy!ate@uunet.uu.net (Ate Brink)
Subject: D70 sound saver program at archive.cs.ruu.nl
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just added the D70 sound saver program to our Atari archive.
The author Geert W.T. Jonkheer announced in an earlier message that the
program could be found on cs.ruu.nl. This address is wrong. The real address
is archive.cs.ruu.nl.
Our archive doesn't have a MIDI subdirectory, so you can find the program in
the sounds subdirectory.
________________________________________________________________________
We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University, are running an
anonymous FTP server on one of our systems. In addition to the FTP
service we're also running a mail server, for those of you without
direct Internet access.
--> How to get 'D70rxtx' via anonymous FTP:
Site: archive.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.5]
Login: "anonymous" or "ftp"
Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
File: ATARI-ST/sounds/d70rxtx.zoo
ATARI-ST/INDEX
Don't forget to set binary mode!
--> How to get 'D70rxtx' via e-mail from our mail-server:
NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
"fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
your own address for this.
** PLEASE USE VALID DOMAIN ADDRESSES. DO NOT USE ADDRESSES **
** WITH ! and @ MIXED !!!! BITNETTERS USE USER@HOST.BITNET **
Send the following message to
mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
or the old-fashioned path alternative
uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!mail-server
begin
path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE *YOUR* ADDRESS)
send ATARI-ST/sounds/d70rxtx.zoo
send ATARI-ST/INDEX
end
The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
first issue the request:
send HELP
A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is kept in the top-level
directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:
send ls-lR.Z
That's all for now. If you encounter problems using the FTP service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).
Ate Brink (ate@cs.ruu.nl)
Moderator of the Atari archive at the Utrecht University
--
Ate Brink, Dept. of Computer Science, Utrecht University
P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands
Telephone: +31-30-534408 Email: ate@cs.ruu.nl
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Date: 28 Jan 92 08:12:56 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ukma!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!fauern!unido!mcsun!sun4nl!ahds!g
eert@arizona.edu (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS)
Subject: D70 sound saver program uploaded.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
As mentioned earlier I have uploaded the D70 sound saver program
to both a.a.u.e. and cs.ruu.nl.
The program is called d70rxtx.zoo and must be found in the
midi directory of both servers.
Hope anyone who is interested enjoys the program.
Geert.
--
================================================================================
============ Geert W.T. Jonkheer. =============
========== Ahold N.V. The Netherlands geert@ccsds.ahold.nl ==========
===================================================================
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Date: 28 Jan 92 08:25:03 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!
kksys!orbit!pnet51!chucks@arizona.edu (Erik Funkenbusch)
Subject: Darn brevity
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory) writes:
>You have to be joking guy, don't even try to compare AMIGA DOS with ANY
>version of UNIX, especially the Mach version on the NeXT.
>
>Its not even in the same league.
>
>AMIGA DOS is incredibly primitive compared to Mach. Let me See the AMIGA
>3000-25 run the same OS on its architecture, as the Next 030, and I bet
>you wouldn't be such a proud owner of your 3000.
And thank god for that. I wouldn't WANT half the garbage that's in Unix in
AmigaDos. Unix is good for what it does (i.e. a multi-user environment that
goes to great pains to insure that another user cannot interfere with another
user.), however, i prefer speed and headache free operation.
By the way, Unix or Mach are not *that* much more "advanced" if that's what
you wish to call it. It's just more features (which may or may not be
wanted). by your reasoning then, Multics is a FAR more advanced OS than Unix
(simply because it has more features). There's more to an OS than how many
MAN pages it takes up.
.--------------------------------------------------------------------------.
| UUCP: {amdahl!tcnet, crash}!orbit!pnet51!chucks | "I know he's come back |
| ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!chucks@nosc.mil | from the dead, but do |
| INET: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org | you really think he's |
|-------------------------------------------------| moved back in?" |
| Amiga programmer at large, employment options | Lou Diamond Philips in |
| welcome, inquire within. | "The First Power". |
`--------------------------------------------------------------------------'
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Date: 28 Jan 92 13:30:12 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!sersun1!okes@uunet.uu.net (Oke S)
Subject: Darn brevity
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
[stuff about amigas and un*x deleted]
> What this has to do with the pathetic ST I don't know.
Nothing at all, so take it elsewhere.
Simon Oke.
--
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# # # # # # # # ## #
#### # # # # # # # ##
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Live long and prosper.
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Date: 28 Jan 92 16:25:10 GMT
From: bonnie.concordia.ca!IRO.UMontreal.CA!JSP.UMontreal.CA!u1398@uunet.uu.net
(Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Darn brevity (And all those stupid Amiga/Next msg's)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <6939@orbit.cts.com> chucks@pnet51.cts.com (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
>carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory) writes:
>>You have to be joking guy, don't even try to compare AMIGA DOS with ANY
>>version of UNIX, especially the Mach version on the NeXT.
>>
>>[NeXT Junk deleted]
>[Amiga Junk reply deleted]
Look, This is COMP.SYS.ATARI.ST. This thread should be carried on somewhere
else,
where people actually care. I am tired of reading through this newsgroup only
to waste my time reading things about the Amiga and Next. Nothing 2 do with
Atari.
@$#%@%@#$!@Stupid#$!@!%@!Amiga@#$!#%!@#stick@#$!#@%it!@#~%!#up@#$#!@your#!@#
--
Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen
der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht
fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in
das pockets, relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!!! ------------- :-) ------
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Date: 28 Jan 92 12:52:59 GMT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!marc@uunet.uu.net (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Deskjet 500
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Well, here we are only a day later, and I've received zillions, well, several
replies already to my query about buying a DJ500. I'll summarise below:
B U Y I T ! ! !
A thousand thanks to all those who took the trouble to email words of encourage-
ment. You don't all work for Hewlett-Packard, do you?? ;-)
Cheers,
[M][a][r][c] ===== Cray Research (UK) Ltd. =====
INTERNET: marc@hemlock.cray.com
"If all the girls in Essex were laid JANET: M.Bouron@uk.co.cray
end-to-end, no-one would be in the UUCP: ...!uknet!crayuk!M.Bouron
slightest bit surprised..." VOICE: +44 344 485971 x2208
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Date: 28 Jan 92 14:07:55 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.e
du!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!hofmann@arizona.edu
(james.r.hofmann)
Subject: gnuemacs and ispell
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I am using gnuemacs 18.57 and Bammi's ispell port (both are
excellent ports, many thanks to Scott and Jwahar). Howerver,
I am unable to invoke ispell from gnuemacs using the ispell.el
in the ispell package. That does not surprise me, as I would
expect to have to set an environment variable or a path in the .el
file. However, after playing around with it for awhile, I could not
get it to work. Does anyone on the net use ispell from gnuemacs (18.57)?
If so, would you let me know what I have to set up in order to do it?
On a related note, Edgar Roeder(sp?) posted a compile.el and then
a patch to it to create a compiles.el. My version of patch will not h
handle this file. Would some kind soul email me an updated compiles.el?
Thanks in advance!
Jim Hofmann
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, IL (USA)
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Date: 27 Jan 92 17:36:18 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ukma!darwin.sura.net!mlb.semi.harris.com!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu
!sigma!boyd@arizona.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: How to hook a Microsoft bus mouse to the ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Back by popular demand, here is the article which describes this:
----cut here---
Date: 21 Feb 89 03:02:45 GMT
From: tektronix!ozvax!tekcsc!jeff@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Beadles)
Subject: Here's how to hook a MicroSoft Mouse to a ST
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Well, here is how to connect a Microsoft Mouse to an Atari ST. (520/1040)
The Atari has a 9-pin D-type connector. The Microsoft Mouse has a rather
strange connector on the end. To prevent having to cut the mouse cable up,
I made this adaptor. If you still can't follow it, please let me know and
I'll try to redescribe it. This does work for me. I've been using it for
6 or so months now with no problems at all. It does take some soldering
skills, so if you're not so hot at soldering, find a friend to help.
As far as I know, this does not effect your Atari's warranty. However, I
have not asked Atari. :-)
Atari ST Microsoft Mouse ST expected signal
----- -- --------- ----- -- -------- ------
1 5 XB
2 3 XA
3 8 YA
4 9 YB
5 N/C N/C
6 2 Left button
7 N/C +5VDC (N/C)
8* 6 and also tie to pin 1 Ground
9 7 Right button
* = I am not sure why I have pins 6 & 1 tied together, but it does work.
The Microsoft mouse connector looks like this. This is the solder side,
with the leads pointing up.
---------------
| 1 |
| 2 3 4 5 |
| 6 7 8 9 10 |
| |
---------------
If you can not use the connector, the pins are numbered as follows. This
is the connector side from the Microsoft Mouse plug:
/------------\ This is a view at the front of the connector.
/ Blank "KEY" \ It is where the plug from the mouse would be.
/----------------\ The pin labeled 'n' is not connected.
| n 4 X 8 | The place labeled 'X' is filled, and does not
| 9 7 1 2 | have a pin.
| 5 6 |
\ /
\------------/
Have fun!
Jeff
--
Jeff Beadles
jeff@quark.WV.TEK.COM
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---cut here---
Hope that helps.
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Come to your senses professor
FSU Computer Science | Fernberg. You did not transcend
Technical Support Group | the time-space continuum. You
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | got drunk in a topless bar."
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
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Date: 28 Jan 92 13:08:36 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!glasgow!bru-cc!ee90grb@uunet.uu.net (Gareth R Blades)
Subject: pcditto software on a TT?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
koreth@panarthea.ebay.sun.com (koreth@panarthea.ebay.sun.com) writes:
: Has anyone tried the PCDitto software emulator on a TT? If so, does
: it work or no? If it does work, I wonder if the speed would be good
: enough to make it actually useful, unlike its speed on a regular ST.
:
: Let me know if you know....
:
: Thanks,
:
: --Bill
It is reported not to work in a few computer magazines that i have read.
Gareth Blades
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Date: 27 Jan 92 22:32:47 GMT
From: hpl-opus!hpcc05!hpcuhb!hpindda!goo@hplabs.hp.com (Michael Goo)
Subject: Questions about TOS versions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
>thaanuj@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (John Thaanum) writes...
>
>Do any of you know if Falcon runs under 2.06? I've had 1.4 installed for
>a while, and my copy of Falcon craps out at the "Insert Disk Two" prompt.
Hmmm...I have 1.4 (6 chip set / 520ST / 2 meg) and Falcon runs just fine.
I even have both the copy-protected and un-copy-protected versions.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Goo |
Hewlett-Packard | "I never try to cover my ass...
Information Networks Division | but I certainly support your right to do so!"
hpinddh.cup.hp.com |
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Date: 28 Jan 92 15:10:53 GMT
From: psinntp!newstand.syr.edu!rodan.acs.syr.edu!arpajian@uunet.uu.net (Dean
Arpajian)
Subject: spectre problem w/ aztec shell
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello, I seem to be having trouble using manx's Aztec shell v3.6a
under spectre (v3.0). Whenever I try to launch the shell spectre bombs
and returns "bus error"... this bomb is not recoverable (I can only restart
the finder).
I use this shell alot at work as a platform for the aztec C68k (MPW)
compiler. It works on all the machines at work (plusses,se's,II's) and I was
really suprised to find it crashing with spectre.
any help or insight would be appreciated. thanx.
-dean
--
Dean Arpajian (aka---> arpajian@rodan.acs.syr.edu)
std. disclaimer: if I expressed an opinion, remember this:
it's simply my opinion. period.
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Date: 28 Jan 92 07:37:57 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!stl!robobar!ibmpcug!demon!news@uunet.uu.net (Keith
Sommerville)
Subject: Spectre users unite!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I am interested too
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Date: 28 Jan 92 10:45:37 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ukma!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@ariz
ona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: Supra Interface PROBLEM: SOLVED
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan27.170611.2145@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
ba014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew C. Brinkhoff) writes:
>
> Thanks for the help, my problem has been solved.
>
> --
> o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o
> | Orwell was an optimist! | ba014@cleveland.freenet.edu | E Pluribus Unix |
> o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o
>
Please tell us what the problem was, so we can avoid the same problem..??
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
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Date: 28 Jan 92 14:28:53 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Rog
er.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: Various ST topics
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <999@news.duke.edu> bigham@acpub.duke.edu (Scott Bigham) writes:
> From the Holy Book of <1992Jan26.042018.4006@actrix.gen.nz>
> as spake by Alex.Valdez@actrix.gen.nz (Alex Valdez) :
> >In article <1992Jan25.195351.26589@watserv1.waterloo.edu>
ec333way@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Winter92 BEACON ec333 account) writes:
> >> Is TeX Usable on a 1 meg ST w/ hard drive?
> >I believe version 3.1 is not but 2.9 is.
>
> 3.1 is usable, just. I had room for FATSPEED and FOLDR080, and that was
> pushing it. Of course, my copy has initex and virtex in separate executables;
> newer versions merged them, and that might not fit.
>
> -sbigham
> --
> Scott Bigham | The opinions expressed above are
> bigham@hercules.acpub.duke.edu | (c) 1991 Hacker Ltd. and cannot be
> | copied or distributed without a
> | Darn Good Reason(tm).
Why not get TOS 1.4 then you would have lots more room, it uses these RAM
than TOS 1.2 , plus you don't nead Fatspeed and you can do away with
Folder Fix, and you would end up liking your machine more..:-)..
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 ***
*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, ***
*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe ***
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Date: 28 Jan 92 10:10:43 GMT
From:
mcsun!news.funet.fi!sunic!chalmers.se!etek.chalmers.se!etek.chalmers.se!fabian@
uunet.uu.net (Fabian)
Subject: VORTEX ATonce 386SX for MSTE's
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1992Jan26.005812.1935@nmt.edu>, ehobbs@nmt.edu (Eric Hobbs) writes:
|> In article <1992Jan25.114505.21983@ugle.unit.no> stigvi@Lise.Unit.NO (Stig
Vidar Hovland) writes:
|> >In article <1992Jan21.164140.143@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de>,
itschere@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Torsten Scherer) writes:
|> > >
|> > > Some facts :
|> > >
|> > > - 32 bit CPU 80C386SX-16MHz
|> >
|> >This must be wrong. Isn't the 80386SX a 16 bit processor as the same way the
68000 is.
|> >
|> >Stig Vidar Hovland - stigvi@lise.unit.no
|>
|>
|> Don't flame me if I'm wrong, but I believe a 386SX is a 32-bit
|> processor, but it has a 16-bit bus.
|>
|> Anyone know for sure?
|>
|> Eric A. Hobbs
|> ehobbs@JUPITER.nmt.edu
Yes, exactly the same as the 68000, 16-bits externally, 32-bits
internally.
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M Fabian, fabian@contrl.chalmers.se | Control Engineering
fabian@etek.chalmers.se | Laboratory, CTH
mf@contrl.chalmers.se | Sweden
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