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Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 6 Jun 91 Volume 91 : Issue 317
Today's Topics:
Atari FTP
FSM-GDOS...When? How?
G++ for ST, where again?
GDOS in general
Gemini Standard Usages
Icon Editor for RSC.PRG from DR
Info-Atari16 Digest V91 #314
lharc (2 msgs)
LOGO
Looking for a Spectre GCR
More than 4 Meg ?? (2 msgs)
MultiGEM
Publishers (II)
Reading IBM and ST disks. (2 msgs)
site access info: how ?
Spectrum 512
Where to find those round connectors. (2 msgs)
WORDPERFECT AND ATARI(address wanted)
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 91 10:02 GMT
From: LB7@vaxb.york.ac.uk
Subject: Atari FTP
To: INFO-ATARI16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:INFO-ATARI16@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.edu>
I've not tried the site suggested by the person who wrote yesterday, but what
I do know is that rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de have G++ (not sure which version
thoough). This is also the best Atari FTP site I've seen, it has twice as much
stuff as terminator at least.
Lee.
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Date: 5 Jun 91 17:25:29 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham S Thomas)
Subject: FSM-GDOS...When? How?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
From article <1991May31.191105.13736@lonex.radc.af.mil>, by
longj@lonex.radc.af.mil (Jeffrey K. Long):
> I have been trying to get GDOS drivers for my HP Deskjet for "ever"
> it seems, and now have given up the search (No, I haven't ordered one from
> Migraph, please read rest of note) to await the arrival of FSM-GDOS.
>
> Questions:
> 1) When will it be relesed ?
On past performance: much later than you want, later than you expect,
and a bit later than you'd dared to guess when, taking into account past
performance, you were being most pessimistic.
>
> 2) Who will handle distribution (Atari Directly, or through dealers, mail
> order, ...)?
No doubt this will differ from country to country, and Atari UK will try
to handle it themselves, then spend a year trying to decide whether to
sell it or give it away (based on their treatment of the Epson emulator
for the SLM804 and the time it took them to release the presentation
graphics program Hyperchart. By the way, Atari UK still sells v1.0 of
the Epson emulator, whereas Atari USA gives away v1.31. I know which I
use, and I'm sorry I bought the UK product).
> 3) What will it cost, and will it include (as I have heard rumoured) drivers
> for most printers including the HP DeskJet (original version)?
See above. It would, of course, be sensible to include Deskjet drivers,
but if space is tight on the disk, then an SMM124 (Atari dot matrix
printer, if I've remembered the number correctly) driver might win out.
> 4) Can I get it now by buying Goldeaf's Wordflair II?
I don't know, but I bet a) they'd like to bundle it, and b) the Tramiels
won't let them even though the software engineers have had it ready for
a while.
> 5) Will this guy ever run out of questions? Why ask why? Why is the sky
blue....
On the last question, read 'The Cuckoo's Egg'. Some professor once
asked Cliff Stoll the same question in an astronomy exam and had him
sweating for hours over the answer.
Wouldn't it be nice if Atari were to prove me wrong on 1-4 above?
Graham
--
Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK
Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: .. 685865
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Date: 5 Jun 91 21:37:22 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!uni-koeln!aix370.rrz.uni-koeln.de!ro@uunet.uu.net (Rainer
Orth)
Subject: G++ for ST, where again?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <GJH.91Jun5115141@ghiggins.hpl.hp.com> gjh@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Graham
Higgins) writes:
> ++ A few weeks ago, somebody announced G++ 1.39 (and gcc 1.39) for
> ++ the ST. It was available from an FTP site in Germany (where else? :-),
> ++ I think. Anybody remember where it was??
> ++ Viele Thanks in advance
>
> Jan Timm posted:
>
> >> There is a port of g++ version 1.39 (and gcc 1.39 too) on ftp.thp.koeln.de,
> >> (134.95.64.1).
Christoph Strunk's port of gcc 1.39, g++ 1.39.0 and libg++ 1.39.0 is on
ftp.thp.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.64.1]
(If this doesn't work you can try ftp.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.80.1]:/thp/atari.)
Hope this helps.
Rainer
--
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Rainer Orth, Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne
Internet: ro@thp.Uni-Koeln.DE
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Date: 5 Jun 91 20:13:08 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.ed
u!cs.umn.edu!uc!shamash!timbuk!marc@arizona.edu (Marc Bouron)
Subject: GDOS in general
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Look in atari/programming/gdos.arc at atari.archive for a `GDOS Primer'.
[M][a][r][c]
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Date: 3 Jun 91 19:26:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka
.de!smurf!artcom0!hb.maus.de!ac2.maus.de!Lutz_Frank@arizona.edu (Lutz Frank)
Subject: Gemini Standard Usages
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi Jim,
JO>Also, I have no idea what they are intending to use the "CDPATH"
JO>for. I've never seen it on a Unix system or an OS-9 system and
JO>I don't know what program would look for it. Is that supposed to
JO>be a path for CD Rom applications?
the environment variable CDPATH is a Mupfel-feature, I think.
It is used to define where a "CD" (change dir) command - used in the
shell - should preferably look first.
Just a short look into the documentation ... (please excuse my
translation ;-))
cd [dir]
Changes to directory dir. Without arguments the value of
$HOME will be used. Dir may contain a drive specification
(eg. C:\BIN). If there is an CDPATH defined and a change
to dir is not possible, then Mupfel puts dir
at the end of each CDPATH-entry and tries to change
directory at this path.
example: cd TEST
path TEST not found
CDPATH defined as C:\FIRST, D:\SECOND
now Mupfel tries to make a
cd C:\FIRST\TEST
and cd D:\SECON\TEST
before issuing an 'dir not found' error
Kind regards
Lutz
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 11:25
From: "Grupp , Andreas"
<JG05%DKAUNI2.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Icon Editor for RSC.PRG from DR
To: Atari-ST Listserver <ATARST-L@UIUCVMD.BITNET>
Hello,
I have just bought TURBO C and wanted to create Icons or
Bit-Images for a resource-file with the included Digital-Research
Resource - Construction - Set - Program. As far as I can see
(there is no documentation for the PRG included) you can not
do these pictures with RCS.PRG !! The only possibilty is to open
such an empty object, and then load the image from disk out of
a file with the extension *.ICN !!!! Does anybody know of a program
that is able to create such files, or are there any other possibilitys.
Thanks a lot in advance for all answers.
Andreas Grupp
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 09:43:45 MEZ
From: Michael Burschik <UPP201%DBNRHRZ1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V91 #314
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
What on Earth *is* G++ ???
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Date: 4 Jun 91 08:18:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka
.de!smurf!artcom0!hb.maus.de!hh.maus.de!Thomas_Quester@arizona.edu (Thomas
Quester)
Subject: lharc
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Es>I just pulled a couple of versions of lharc off of the archive at umich,
Es>but I have been having a hard time getting it to work on all files. I
Es>keep either running into CRC errors, or I just get "no file" when I try
Es>to extract an archive that I have downloaded. I have run into this
Es>with files that have been created on the systems here at OU as well as
Es>from abroad.
It looks like LZH 1.13.xx with xx < 20.
Es>What is the best version of lharc, and where can I find it? And what may
Es>be causing these things to have such a hard time?
If you send me a disk and the stamps you'll receive the LZH 1.13.21 or
a newer version. The bugs you described are fixed at 1.13.20.
If you have problems getting german stamps, you may send me the money
for it.
Wer in der wirklichen Welt arbeiten kann und in der idealen leben, der hat das
(Net)
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Date: 4 Jun 91 08:18:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorke
lwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka.de!smurf!artcom0!hb.maus.de!hh.maus.de!Thomas_Quester@a
rizona.edu (Thomas Quester)
Subject: lharc
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
RJ> That's happening because there is an unfortunate "double-standard"
RJ>(forgive the pun) with LHARC - i.e. two standards exist. My best advice
RJ>is for you to get LHARC060 (Jon Webb & Bart Van Herk) and
RJ>LZH11319 (Haruyashu Yoshizaki) - if one doesn't work I can about 99%
RJ>guarantee you the other one will.
I have fixed that problem in LZH 1.13.20
P.S. does anyone know how to contact Haruyashu Yoshizaki?
Alle vier Jahre ist ein Maikaeferjahr und alle vier Jahre ein Schaltjahr.
(Net)
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Date: 5 Jun 91 16:50:00 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sun
ic!isgate!krafla!adamd@arizona.edu (Adam David)
Subject: LOGO
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes:
>Does any one know if its posible to get Ataries Logo to work with Tos 1.4/1.6
>I do get a out of Memory when I try to load a Logo Program/File,
It doesn't work either with TOS 1.2. This would seem to be why Atari removed it
from the ST language disk. It is possible to run LOGO.PRG and edit with it,
but it falls over itself soon after starting to run a LOGO program. I guess it
relies on internal GEM variables in TOS 1.0.
>Are there any patches to make this work ?
I am also interested in finding these.
--
Adam David
(adamd@rhi.hi.is)
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Date: 5 Jun 91 15:14:06 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!at
t!cbnewsm!cbnewsk!ronw@arizona.edu (ronald.g.wolenty)
Subject: Looking for a Spectre GCR
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Does anyone have a Spectre GCR you want to sell? I'd be interested in one
with or without ROMS.
Ron Wolenty
inuxy!wolenty
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Date: 5 Jun 91 22:26:30 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!vsnyder@arizona.edu (Van Snyder)
Subject: More than 4 Meg ??
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <3153@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:
>In article <1991Jun4.112631.10649@cs.nott.ac.uk> dpg@cs.nott.ac.uk
>(Dave Gymer) writes:
>> ... I believe, that the MMU in the STe can
>>only handle .25 and 1 meg SIPPS/SIMMS, and these are arranged in two banks,
>>which must contain the same amount (hence, memory configurations can only
>>be .5 meg, 1 meg, 2 meg, 2.5 meg, and 4 meg). I too have a four meg STe.
> ~~~~~~~
>
>Nope. TOS 1.6 has a screwed up memory sizer that assumes that if two banks of
>RAM exist then both banks are the same size. I don't know if this is a bug
>in the true sense or malicious crippling but it is sad.
>
>BTW, a bank is two SIMMs since memory access is on a word basis.
>
> 512K = 2 x 256K SIMMs
> 1Mb = 4 x 256K SIMMs
> 2Mb = 2 x 1Mb SIMMs
> 2.5Mb = 2 x 1Mb SIMMs + 2 x 256K SIMMs (Not with TOS 1.6)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I heard this works on TOS 1.6 if you put the 256k SIMMs as the first bank
and the 1M SIMMs as the second bank. But I could be wrong. If you're
having trouble, though, it's trivial to try it the other way.
> 4Mb = 4 x 1Mb SIMMs
--
vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder
vsnyder@jato.uucp
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Date: 5 Jun 91 21:54:09 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ccut!wnoc-tyo-news!
toumon!wucc!ytsuji@arizona.edu (Y.Tsuji)
Subject: More than 4 Meg ??
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
SLM804, the laser printer, barely runs on a MEGA2. 4 mb is simply not enough
if you have other program in memory.
Tsuji
P.S.
I think adding a fast disk (say 900 Kilo bytes/sec) is cost effective than
adding two or four megabytes of memory above 4 mb on my old Mega4.
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Date: 6 Jun 91 01:48:19 GMT
From:
bonnie.concordia.ca!clouso!clyde.concordia.ca!daily-planet.concordia.ca!antares
.concordia.ca.concordia.ca!seldin@uunet.uu.net ( JONATHAN SELDIN )
Subject: MultiGEM
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have just seen an ad in a catalog from E. Arthur Brown for
MultiGEM, which is said to be a multitasking system for the ST.
Does anybody know anything about it? In particular:
1. How good is it? Will it run, for example, dvist and unix
windows? Will it permit a background kermit transfer via unix
windows or uniterm?
2. How does it compare to MiNT?
3. Does it run on a TT? If not, is there a version for the TT?
Please send me e-mail, and I will summarize to the net. Thank you.
--
Jonathan P. Seldin
Department of Mathematics seldin@alcor.concordia.ca
Concordia University, Montreal seldin@vax2.concordia.ca
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Date: 5 Jun 91 17:10:38 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham S Thomas)
Subject: Publishers (II)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
From article <7839@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM>, by boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM (Robert
Luneski):
>
> Did you ever hear the one about how many Atari engineers it takes to screw in
> a light bulb?
I thought that registered developers were not allowed to reveal such
confidential and commercially sensitive information! :-)
Graham
--
Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK
Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: .. 685865
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Date: 6 Jun 91 01:21:46 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!topaz.ucq.edu.au!johnsonc@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Reading IBM and ST disks.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <cXo3322w164w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew@mantis.co.uk (Giving C News a
*HUG*) writes:
>
> The best solution is to get TOS 1.4 or later, or a copy of Neodesk, or a copy
> of DC Format. All three will format IBM-readable disks with no problem.
>
> There are also countless other PD utilities to make pre-1.4 ST disks
> PC-readable.
>
> Alternatively, just format the disks on the PC.
>
>
> mathew
>
>
Thanks to everyone who replied to my previous posting. So far I had been
formatting on the PC but it was getting tiresome when I had to keep running
out to the campus just to format another dozen or so disks. The information
is very useful.
Steve, thanks for the information on the bytes to be changed. I'll try it
as soon as possible.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Chris Johnson : "I have made this letter long as I
Final Year B.App.Sc (Computing) : lack the time to make it short."
"Just another student" : - Blaise Pascal
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Date: 6 Jun 91 06:00:06 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.ed
u!gvlf3.gvl.unisys.com!tredysvr!cellar!revpk@arizona.edu (Brian 'Rev P-K'
Siano)
Subject: Reading IBM and ST disks.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
johnsonc@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>
>
> I remember hearing that START magazine had published information on how
> to make disks formatted on the ST (?) so that they can be read on IBM
> compatibles as well as the ST. This was supposed to be done by altering
> three bytes somewhere on the disk. Do any of the readers know of this
> information? I tried looking back through what issues I have of START but
> couldn't find the info and am afraid that it is in an issue I have not
> bought.
>
> What sectors/bytes have to be changed?
>
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Chris Johnson : "I have made this letter long than usual
> Final Year B.App.Sc (Computing) : as I lack the time to make it short."
> "Just another student" : - Blaise Pascal
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Actually, a good number of BBSes should have a formatting tool that
allows the ST to format for MS-DOS machines. (The formatting is actually
identical-- a few boot sectors have to be placed on the disk.)
If you cabn get ahold of PC Ditto (the software version), the FORMAT
A: command works just as well.
======================================================================
Brian Siano, aka [ "Mr. A. Hitler, the old Nazi thing, says
[ Mickey's silly. Imagine that! Well, Mickey is
Rev. Philosopher-King [ going to save Mr. A. Hitler from drowning or
[ something some day. Just wait and see if he
revpk@cellar.UUCP [ doesn't. Then won't Mr. A. Hitler be ashamed!"
[ -- Walt Disney, 1933.
======================================================================
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 12:06 GMT
From: DCMA22%UJVAX.ULSTER.AC.UK@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject: site access info: how ?
To: INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello Netters,
I'm asking this for a freind.
How are archives like TERMINATOR.CC.UMICH.EDU accessed from home in the UK with
a modem? Is this done via networks if so which one? Is it through a LISTSERV if
so which one and how is contacted? If you know of how much it might cost, this
would also be welcome information.
Has anyone any experience of DRAFIX 1.
Is it still available?
If so what price, and who from?
Please reply directly or by this digest. (It takes me one full week to catch up
on the digest.)
Rhanks in advance
Graeme Craig UK DCMA22@UK.AC.ULSTER.UJVAX
World DCMA22@UJVAX.ULSTER.AC.UK
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Date: 6 Jun 91 10:07:36 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: Spectrum 512
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Anyone who know how I can make my Spectrum 512 work on my MEGA STE
It dooesn't work on standard STE's either...
Who distributes Spectrum 512 these days ?
The old adress and fax-number to Electric distribution doesn't work :-(
Lars-Erik / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ ________________________
Osterud / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / The norwegian ST
__________/ ______________________/ ____/ / Klubben, user association
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Date: 5 Jun 91 23:28:43 GMT
From: noao!ncar!gatech!utkcs2!duncan.cs.utk.edu!gathings@arizona.edu (Golando
Gathings)
Subject: Where to find those round connectors.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I was wondering if anyone knew of a wholesaler that sold the
round connectors that are used on the atari ST system. If here
are any Ideas, please reply,
Golando
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Date: 6 Jun 91 06:16:44 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!vsnyder@arizona.edu (Van Snyder)
Subject: Where to find those round connectors.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jun5.232843.13230@cs.utk.edu> gathings@duncan.cs.utk.edu
(Golando Gathings) writes:
>
>I was wondering if anyone knew of a wholesaler that sold the
>round connectors that are used on the atari ST system. If here
>are any Ideas, please reply,
>
>Golando
Try Best Electronics in San Jose, CA. They specialize in such kinds of
accessories for Atari 8-bit and ST computers. I don't have their
address or phone handy, but the appropriate information operator would
have it. Try 408/555-1212 or 415/555-1212.
--
vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder
vsnyder@jato.uucp
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 09:23:57 ADT
From: Alyre CHIASSON <CHIASSA%UDEM@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca>
Subject: WORDPERFECT AND ATARI(address wanted)
To: N <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
About a week ago someone posted to Atari Digest the name of
someone at Atari USA to write to about future support for
WORDPERFECT. I wrote it down but lost it. I'm in a letter
writing mood so I would appreciate it if someone could
e-mail me the name and address for the above individual.
The existance of WORDPERFECT for the ST would certainly
be an important factor for students or profs purchasing
an ST at our university-WORDPERFECT is the standard across
all departments and administration. It is certainly the
choice for me when submitting manuscripts to scientific
journals. No scientific journal will ever adopt WORDUP as
a standard for accepting manuscripts on disk. My wife
is also a translator for the government and their wordprocessor
is also WORDPERFECT. Some may feel it is futile but I
would like to write so I would appreciate the name. My wife
is going to write too.
Alyre Chiasson
CHIASSAL@UDEM
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