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Info-Atari16 Digest Vol. 91 Issue 291
Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 23 May 91 Volume 91 : Issue 291
Today's Topics:
AIM offer to STart subscribers
Atari.archive monthly posting
Calamus Printer I/O redirection
FixGDOS (Was: STree from comp.binaries.atari.st)
FTP Beginner's Guide
GemView and TOS 1.0 (1.2)
How to upload to atari.archive or comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st
Latest Atari hard disk formatter/partitioner?
MV16/BAT/soundtrackers...
TT memory
US Spectre 128
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Date: 23 May 91 04:39:11 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.ed
u!ceres.physics.uiowa.edu!news.iastate.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!midway!clout!chinet
!saj@arizona.edu (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: AIM offer to STart subscribers
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Not to minimize what's involved in putting out a magazine, AIM is not exactly
in the league STart was trying to play in. I'd personally put it at about the
level of professionalism Current Notes was at when it first hit national
distribution. Perhaps it will follow the same upward path. But anyway, the
press release that prompted this struck me as real real strange.
Steve
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Date: 23 May 91 11:05:50 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.e
du!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: Atari.archive monthly posting
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Welcome to atari.archive.umich.edu
This is the monthly posting from the umich atari posse. We hope
it will answer some of those nagging questions that always seem to pop up
from time to time. If you have any additional suggestions, please mail
them to me, at weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.
1: How do I use BART?
Now that BART is back on-line again, you can get bart help by mailing
atari@atari.archive.umich.edu and include the word 'help' in the body of
the message. This doesn't mean you have to send mail Jon or I.
2: How can I connect via FTP?
If you are interested in ftp, I recently wrote a beginner's guide. Please
mail me and I will send you a copy. I'll post it every once in a while too.
3: What if my machine doesn't support name service?
Two things to do here:1) Demand that your sys-admin install it soon,
and 2) use the internet address 141.211.164.8
4: I can't download because my hard drive doesn't work and my modem goes
out sometimes and .....HELP!!!
Sorry, outside of the archive I really can't help you....Your best bet is
to find someone at your site with a similar set-up, or post to c.s.a.st
for advice.
5: HEY! Your index is much better than it used to be!!!
HEY! I know! We've added text descriptions and a whole lot more! To top
that off, the index will now be updated instantaneously. No more waiting
for me to get off my butt and do it.... If you have noticed any errors,
or have any suggestions or descriptions of files
please mail them to me!!
6: When I try to FTP to the archive's host, I get a message saying that my
machine wasn't recognized and I wasn't allowed to log in. What's up?
We only accept ftp logins from recognized hosts. If you are not allowed
to log in, please try again. It is possible that the DNS took a bit too
long. If you are still denied access, ask your sys-admin to fix your
name servers.
7: Here's a question for you Jeff, how come I can't use 'ftp terminator.cc.etc'
any more to connect?
That's because you're not using atari.archive.umich.edu like we told you
to. In the near future, terminator.cc.umich.edu will change it's name.
Don't say we didn't warn you.......
There are a few files you'll really like to have:
archivers/arc602.arc : The latest version of arc
archivers/zoo.arc : The classic archive program
archivers/compress.zoo : Useful for removing .Z from sounds and binaries
archivers/unlzh11.arc : Unpacks .lzh files
archivers/sttar.arc : Removes those nasty .tar extenders
THEY ARE CONTAINED IN THE SELF EXTRACTING ARCHIVE starter.tos!!! PLEASE USE IT!
Thanks to everyone who has uploaded anything lately.....
Interesting things this month:
1. We will be posting the New0 fiel every week now. Hope you all love
this. This should eliminate the need to ftp overseas to check for new stuff.
2. I also put up a ls-lR.Z version of the index for anyone who wants it.
This will be updated periodically.
BART PROBLEMS:
Common Error for the month of May: BE SURE TO CHECK YOUR SPELLING!!!
PLEASE NOTE: FTP service is a privelege, not a right! Please make
a supreme effort to keep heavy FTP use in off-time hours (i.e. after
5 pm EST but before 8 am EST).
Any ideas, questions, comments, etc. to me,
weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu
--
Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{{sklyab,felix}.engin, atari.archive}.umich.edu
------------------------------
Date: 23 May 91 08:34:52 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!olivea!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru
!hagbard!sunic!ugle.unit.no!lise.unit.no!stigvi@arizona.edu (Stig Vidar
Hovland)
Subject: Calamus Printer I/O redirection
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991May22.020619.28195@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>,
s883334@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (James Alan Hall) writes:
|>
|> Are there any utilities (preferrably public domain or shareware) to
|> intercept Calamus' printer output and direct it into a file instead ?
|> Calamus supports the HP Laser, but I have to go elsewhere to use this
|> printer. I need to be able to save the output Calamus sends to the port
|> and later on send it straight through to the HP Laser on another computer.
Calamus 1.09 writes directly to the port instead of using OS calls, so I suppose
it will be very hard to redirect printer output to a file.
Stig Vidar Hovland - stigvi@lise.unit.no
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Date: 23 May 91 07:37:14 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!msi.umn.edu!math
.fu-berlin.de!unido!laura!exunido!haacke@arizona.edu (Ralf Haacke)
Subject: FixGDOS (Was: STree from comp.binaries.atari.st)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Some programs don't run with GDOS, because this programs call v_opnvwk() or
v_opnwk() with handle 0. Also programs compiled with OMIKRON-basic have this
problem: "Invalid handle".
FixGDOS fix this problem:
F I X - G D O S
===============================================================
>>>> PUBLIC - DOMAIN <<<<
This Program FIX_GDOS.PRG fix the problem with unvalid VDI handle's
by using GDOS, AMSGDOS or NVDI and a unclean programming.
No more:
"!!!!! Invalid GDOS Handle !!!!!"
This program can run from the AUTO-folder or from the DESKTOP.
It links itself into the TRAP#2 (AES/VDI) vector (XBRA, dfGD).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Dieter Fiebelkorn | With a rubber duck, :-) |
| fiebelko@petra.informatik.uni-dortmund.de | one's never alone. :~{ |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 23 May 91 11:09:10 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.
umich.edu!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: FTP Beginner's Guide
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
This is a basic guide to ftp. It is intended only to get you on your
way to ftp happiness. Please let me know if you have any comments,
questions, or suggestions.
weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu
Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1
Part 1: Logging in
To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our
machine. You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu'
command. You should then see something like this:
Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu.
220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199
1) ready.
Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername):
At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'. On some hosts, the word
'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet.
If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like
'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address).
We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to
ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers.
There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking.
Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name,
try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8 Then, march down to
your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service. Your life will
become much easier.
Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a
password. Use your mail address. For example, I would use
'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu'
Part 2: Basic Commands
Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about.
ls : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory.
ls -C : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically.
ls -F : Lists filenames, but adds a / to the end of directory names.
dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines
ls -l : A verbose listing of files. Includes permissions, filesize, etc.
cd : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area)
cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from.
This from redmond@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU:
For more than one argument to ls, use double quotes. Eg. ls "-FC *.lzh"
These are about all you need to get moving around the archive.
Part 3: Getting the Goddies
The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer
files. More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from
the archive to your account. You can do this using the following commands:
First, find the file you want to download.
Second, issue the command 'type binary'. This tells our machine that
you'll be transferring a binary file. This is really important. You'll
waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in
binary mode.
Third, issue this command 'get <filename.ext>'. This will instruct
the archive host to send <filename.ext> to your account.
The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command. This
tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would
like to go back to your command prompt.
Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever)
to your ST. Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem
protocals. They're very reliable. I'd be quite hesitant to try something
else. Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you. This means
that I really can't help you with this part. You could try asking, but
I'm going to promise anything.
Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette
Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of.
Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this:
1) Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours,
in our time zone. That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST. This roughly means
upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours. After
5pm, have a blast. Go nuts. We probably won't mind nearly as much.....
Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you
live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt. Or, Jon will sing Prince
songs to you. Whichever you'd like the least.
2) If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some
other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first. Don't
immediately fire off all of your questions to us. I don't mind answering
questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something
similar. But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like,
"Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on
my sparc station...."
3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have. I
know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to
download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and
upload things also.
If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc.
please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.
Thanks,
weiner
--
Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{{sklyab,felix}.engin, atari.archive}.umich.edu
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Date: 23 May 91 07:41:39 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!msi.umn.edu!m
ath.fu-berlin.de!unido!laura!news@arizona.edu (News account)
Subject: GemView and TOS 1.0 (1.2)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
From: haacke@exunido.uucp (Ralf Haacke)
Path: exunido!haacke
The newest version of GemView (1.0.4) now runs with TOS 1.0 and TOS 1.2.
SORRY FOR THIS BUG.
Next in atari.archive or send my a mail to get the program
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Dieter Fiebelkorn | With a rubber duck, :-) |
| fiebelko@petra.informatik.uni-dortmund.de | one's never alone. :~{ |
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Date: 23 May 91 11:07:32 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.
umich.edu!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: How to upload to atari.archive or comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Uploading to Atari.archive.umich.edu
and
Posting to comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st
By Jeff Weiner, Atari.archive Guardian
How to upload to atari.archive.umich.edu:
There are two main ways to upload to the archive: FTP or mail
1: FTP - This is the preferred method, as it doesn't clog my mailbox with
megs and megs of stuff, not to mention it's a bit easier for you too.
Logon to the archive as usual, then issue the following commands
cd
type binary
put filename.ext
mail weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu .... "Hey Jeff, I just uploaded this..."
This last step is very important. As we're now integrating the
index with text and the ls -lR listing, descriptions and an address to
send questions to are key.
Ed Krimen, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu, adds this:
For those that may not know, may I add that, for aesthetic effects,
if you enter "hash," before you "put filename.ext" or "get
filename.ext," the ftp program will display a # for every 1024 bytes
sent or received. Actually, when you 'put' a file, it will display
bunch of # at once. Moreover, if you enter "bell," it will sound your
system bell when a function has completed. Finally, you can send and
receive a list of files using the "mput" and "mget" commands,
respectively, with a list of the files after the command.
2: MAIL - This is a bit slower for you and for me, but is still very effective.
Simply uuencode the file, (please split it into parts
and mail the result to weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu. Please name
the parts in the subject line. This is really helpfull as the parts
usually don't arrive in the proper sequence. Also, please include a
message labeled file transmission, containing a short description of
the file, etc. Shar files are also acceptable, but I prefer the uuencoded.
And for those of you who would like to see your binaries and sources appear
in comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st, the following is taken from Steve
Grimm's Introduction to Binaries and Sources:
Subject: Submitting binaries for publication
Items intended for posting or queries and problem notes should be sent to
atari-binaries@panarthea.ebay.sun.com. If you are on a UUCP-only site, you
can send them to {backbone}!sun!ebay!panarthea!atari-binaries.
If you're in Europe, you can send binaries to the European submoderator,
Jan-Hinrich Fessel, at unido!atari-binaries (or, if you're a masochist,
atari-binaries@unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de.) He will test them and
forward them to me. Submitting to him saves net bandwidth, so it's
encouraged.
If you want verification of arrival, so say in a cover note, or at the
beginning of your submission, if it is small. I try to verify that a
program works, and if I can't get it to work, I may hold up posting it
for a couple of days. Please note that, except in rare cases, software
without documentation will not be published. The backlog from receipt
to posting varies from one to four weeks depending mostly on the set
of submissions currently in my queue.
If you are submitting both sources and binaries, PLEASE send the two
separately. If I have to separate your sources from your binaries by
hand, your submission will most likely sit on the back burner for a
while.
Also, as of volume 8, I will only accept binaries packed with an archiver
for which source code is widely available. For the time being, this pretty
much means arc, zoo, and lharc. If you want to use a nifty new archiver,
make the source code available to the public (posting to comp.sources.atari.st
is fine.) I reserve the right to repack binaries with another archiver if
the other archiver saves a significant amount of space, or has other
advantages.
If you're submitting a demo of a commercial program, or a shareware program,
please keep the amount of advertising to an absolute minimum. The net
gods become angry when people try to use the net as a free advertising
medium, and I'd like to keep comp.binaries.atari.st out of trouble. If
you want to solicit orders, do it in a README file or an About... dialog
box, not in a message that comes up every time the user does something.
In other words, treat the net like a PBS station (apologies to those
outside the US.) I will not accept programs which I feel are excessively
commercial. I'm aware that commercial demos and shareware are often very
useful (to the users on the net,) which is why I allow them at all.
Subject: Submitting source for publication
Items intended for posting or queries and problem notes should be sent to
atari-sources@panarthea.ebay.sun.com. If you are on a UUCP-only site, you
can send them to sun!ebay!panarthea!atari-sources. In Europe, send your
submissions to Jan-Hinrich Fessel, the European submoderator of the group,
at unido!atari-sources (or, if you're a masochist, atari-sources@unido.
informatik.uni-dortmund.de.)
If you want verification of arrival, so say in a cover note, or at the
beginning of your submission, if it is small. I try to verify that a
program works, and if I can't get it to work, I may hold up posting it
for a couple of days. Please note that, except in rare cases, source
without documentation will not be published. The backlog from receipt
to posting varies from one to four weeks depending mostly on the set
of submissions currently in my queue.
I prefer that you submit sources and binaries separately, as it's a
pain to separate them, and such submissions are invariably placed on
the back burner. Sources should be submitted in the same format as
binaries -- uuencoded arc, zoo, or lzh files. Please use Pierre Dumas'
"uue" program if possible, as it can correct some common transmission
errors. Split long submissions up into reasonable (less than 50K)
chunks. "uue" will do this for you, if you use "uue -700 file" to
encode.
Please inform me of any special system requirements, and what development
environment was used, so that I can properly test your submission and
label it when I post it.
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--
Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{{sklyab,felix}.engin, atari.archive}.umich.edu
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Date: 23 May 91 03:26:56 GMT
From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Latest Atari hard disk formatter/partitioner?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Get the DMA chip replaced, you could change to a better hard drive at
a later date, from what I have read the faulty DMA chips are very
unpredictable, some will work with a Atari drive, but otheres not.
The dealers here find that there are no good rules for testing for
these chips, if it is tested on say a Atari drive in a shop, it
could probably fail on a different Atari drive.
I would not like to be stuck with a machine that was a bit iffy
Note: the ICD booter will only work if you have a ICD host adapter in
your system.
--
Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand...
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Date: 23 May 91 05:52:23 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.e
du (Ed Krimen)
Subject: MV16/BAT/soundtrackers...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991May22.213027.11797@doc.ic.ac.uk> adm2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Alan David
Messer) writes:
>
> Well on the network a while back I put out a plea for information on
>soundtrackers for the ST.And I thought I would post my conclusions..
>
> So far I have the following soundtrackers,if you know of any more then
>please let me know...
>
> ESION I tracker - pretty good,comes in two forms,one for the ST
> and one for the STe,sound is very good compared
> too some,has some nice features.
>
> Digicomposer - Improved version of the previous,with STe
> support and Stereo support for St's with
> external cartrigdes.extra features very nice
> For me this is the best of the lot,but does
> have some bugs,like not treating drive B
> correctly and sound glitchs when changing params
> of output device.
>
>NOTE:- this are in the order of WORST to BEST in MY opinion and only my
opinion.
>
>but unfortunately none of them seem to support MIDI at all,and most die when
>my MIDI keyboard is powered up???? DO any support MIDI as an Input device??
>
Digicomposer seems to have the worst sound of any of the Noisetracker
players whereas Esion I has some of the best sound. Digicomposer on the
other hand has more graphic bells and whistles, which I like, than Esion.
Oh, lemme add than Digicomposer seems to have the worst sound on an STe,
at least mine. :~) I'm not sure about ST.
--
||| Ed Krimen [ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu or al661@cleveland.freenet.edu]
||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
/ | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261
ONE WEEK UNTIL GRADUATION!!
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Date: Thu, 23 May 91 11:24 MET
From: STU_JOCHEMS%HRO.nl@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: TT memory
To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
About TT memory:
I've inspected my 2 MB TT and I have no expansion board for
TT memory.
This board is only included in machines with 4 MB or more.
In these configurations you have at least 2 MB TT ram.
I don't know if you couldt purchase an expansion board, but
I think it is stupid if you can not.
The components used are as follows:
- ST ram uses DIP (DIL) IC's
- TT ram uses SIPP modules
Albert Jochems ....Email: STU_JOCHEMS@HRO.NL
(changed from: tc3_jochems@hro.nl)
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Date: Thu, 23 May 91 0:08:22 WET DST
From: "Ian McCall (Scorpion)" <csd015@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: US Spectre 128
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
There are no problems running a US Spectre 128 on a European ST. I
myself bought a second hand one from the US (Hi Drew! :-) ), and having
been running smoothly with it ever since.
Cheers,
Ian McCall (csd015@uk.ac.lancs.cent1)
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