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Info-Atari16 Digest Vol. 91 Issue 405
Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 24 Jul 91 Volume 91 : Issue 405
Today's Topics:
Accidently formatting
Address for Current Notes magazine
ANS: Multisynch and other monitors (Help!)
ANS: Sticking a 30/60MB drive in my SH204?
Current Notes
DigiStuff (latest versions of digital sample utilities) available
HELP!!! with lharc
Howard Chu, where are you?
Latest Gulam or better shell
Mega 2 ST forsale
Multisync Monitor question (2 msgs)
Powerdrone
Roms for spectre 128
Tape backup question
The demise of ST World
Use Unlzh 1.72 for Unlzhing! Works with all!
Wanted: Digitizer for ST
WANTED: Stereo-Tek Glasses
Word Perfect and fonts (3 msgs)
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Date: 24 Jul 91 17:11:19 GMT
From:
mcsun!news.funet.fi!fuug!sics.se!ifi.uio.no!nuug!ugle.unit.no!carlfred@uunet.uu
.net (Carl-Fredrik Soerensen)
Subject: Accidently formatting
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello Everyone !
A friend of mine have an Atari 1040STE.
He has accidently formatted a floppy with some days work (he had no
backup).
I wonder if there exists any opportunities to recover the data (as
Norton Utilities etc.)
Please e-mail me answers..
Thanks !
Carl-Fredrik Soerensen (carlfred@idt.unit.no)
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Date: 24 Jul 91 19:16:57 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!uvaarpa!murdoch!holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU!lch3e@purdue.edu
(Lauren C. Howard)
Subject: Address for Current Notes magazine
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Yikes!! The CORRECTED address for Current Notes magazine:
122 N. Johnson Rd, STERLING, Va. 22170
For you gamers, their reviews usually include lots of hints.
If you like the Atari world, this mag is for you. $27/yr (10 issues)
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Date: 24 JUL 91 15:49:54 CDT
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.bitnet@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: ANS: Multisynch and other monitors (Help!)
To: <INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
Rick Tatem asks,
>
>... Does anyone have any (reasonable) suggestions,
>recommendations, tips, leads, etc. on a good multisynch
>or other compatible monitor for a 1040STf?
>
>Are gray-scale multisynchs any good? What makes and models
>offer the most reasonable compromises between quality and
>price?
>
The overall best unit is the NEC 3D. It is very sharp in
all resolutions, can memorize your screen size and will end the
clutter of equipment on the desk. It will also end your wallet,
too. $600.00.
A great paper-white monochrome monitor is the NEC GS2A. I
find it better than the Atari monochrome monitor and it costs
about $50.00 more. For everybody BUT Atari STs, it is a
gray-scale multisync. Atari's video does not support
gray-scale. This monitor would be suitable only as replacement
for the Atari monochrome. Norm Weinress, of O.P.I., the company
that makes the D.E.K.A. keyboard adaptor for the ST is
developing a gray scale card. He can be found on GEnie and on
Delphi. Oh, the cost for the GS2A is about $225.00.
Larry Rymal <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET> |>Atari ST Users of East Texas<|
Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas
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Date: 24 JUL 91 15:41:51 CDT
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.bitnet@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: ANS: Sticking a 30/60MB drive in my SH204?
To: <INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
Dom Alvear asks,
>
>I would like to know if anybody has successfully upgraded the
>Atari SH204 to another size....
>
Highly recommended! I installed a SeaGate 296n in my old
SH204 three years ago and it works PERFECTLY. No fuss, no muss.
Be sure to clean the power connectors very well as the
SeaGate is quite fussy about resistance-free power.
Larry Rymal <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET> |>Atari ST Users of East Texas<|
Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 91 15:15:43 EDT
From: poehland%phvax.dnet@smithkline.com
Subject: Current Notes
To: "info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu"%INET.dnet@smithkline.com
In IA16 V19#404 24JUL1991 Lauren Howard of ACCCHU mentioned that Current
Notes is now the best Atari mag around, bar none. I quite agree. Here is the
correct address for CN:
Current Notes
122 N. Johnson Rd.
Sterling VA 22170
phone (703)450-4761
My opinion of this magazine, unlike Mr. Howard's, isn't exactly unbiased. I
devote an average of 25 hours/week of my personal time to CN, with no pay.
I'm the 8-bit Editor, but I also own a 1040STe.
Which just goes to show money isn't everything. Quality flows when you
have motivated people. STart/ANTIC, recently demised, never rose above med-
iocrity. CN has always had a hard core of followers who know TRUTH when they
read it (we spare no one), who keep coming back for more. As long as anyone
is interested in an atari computer, we will be there.
I don't give away 100hrs/month of my time for nothing.
- BEN POEHLAND
8-BIT EDITOR
CURRENT NOTES MAGAZINE
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Date: 24 Jul 91 15:54:19 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!boingo.m
ed.jhu.edu!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!dmb@arizona.edu (David M. Baggett)
Subject: DigiStuff (latest versions of digital sample utilities) available
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Well it's been over a year since I've updated the copies of Beep, Digitial
Keyclick, Digivec, Play, etc. at atari.archive, so I've made a new archive
which contains the latest versions of all these and more.
Here's an exerpt from the doc file that comes with it, FYI:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The accompanying self-extracting archive contains the following digitized
sound utilities:
Program Ver. Function
------- ---- --------
Beep v1.5 Replace system beep with digital sample
Digital Keyclick v1.7 Replace keyclick with digital samples
Digivec v1.5 Trigger digital samples on system errors
QD Play v1.7 Play sounds from desktop or AUTO folder
st2hippo v1.2 Convert ST format sounds to Hippo format
hippo2st v1.2 Covnert Hippo format sounds to ST format
sparc2st v1.0 Convert SparcStation .au files to ST format
The most notable improvment in the AUTO folder programs is support for
alternate D/A devices like the Hippo/Navarone and ST Replay digitizers.
QD Play now has a -r option to play sounds in reverse. All of the utilities
have been made much more robust since the first versions.
Note that all are FREE except for Digital Keyclick, which is
SHAREWARE. If you like any of the programs, please send in the $15
registration fee for Digital Keyclick. See the Digital Keyclick doc
file for info on what you'll get when you register. If you've already
registered, thanks a bunch!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This should be available from atari.archive.umich.edu in the next few
days. Look for it initially in atari/newitems/digistuf.arc, then later
in atari/sound/players/digistuf.arc.
Please let me know if there are any problems.
Dave Baggett
dmb@wam.umd.edu
PS> If anyone would like to loan me an STe, I'll be more than happy to
make these work with DMA sound! (A TT would be fine too.) :-/
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Date: 24 Jul 91 13:05:34 GMT
From:
deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!nodename.dec.com!oconnor@decwrl.dec.c
om (My name is Joe O'Connor)
Subject: HELP!!! with lharc
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
I'm not trying to start a falme war or anything but I need to know which lharc
will work with these 2 files:
cocktail.lzh
gods.lzh
I have lharc 0.51 it extracts the files and gives me one unamed file but no
real files. While running, it says each individual file exists but it does
appear to extract them. But when it is done I just get this one unnamed file.
Any ideas or someone who can tell me which version of lharc to use
would be most helpful and appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Joe
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Date: 24 Jul 91 21:00:24 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ac
s.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov!fsctc@arizona.
edu (Clarence T. Chang)
Subject: Howard Chu, where are you?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Howard, I know you moved to JPL. Are you still monitoring this SIG? I have
some questions regarding the ka9q package that you put together a while back.
Please contact me here via email. Thanks.
Clarence T. Chang
fsctc@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov
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Date: 24 Jul 91 19:00:50 GMT
From: ftpbox!mothost!motcid!zafiris@uunet.uu.net (John Zafiris)
Subject: Latest Gulam or better shell
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have an old (very old: alpha version from
I like it and the built in emacs but it has bugs particularly in its
memory management. Is there a more recent version or is there another
program that does a similar thing and includes emacs? I've heard of
something called okami (sp?); what is it like. I don't have access
to any of the archives (I've tried and tried) so is anybody willing to
mail me a copy of a newer gulam or something better?
Thanks in advance... ...John
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Date: 24 Jul 91 16:29:27 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spoo
l.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!ub.d.umn.edu!bgrave@arizona.edu (Brian Grave)
Subject: Mega 2 ST forsale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
For Sale... Atari Mega 2 ST system and software. Here's what I've got:
Mega 2 ST - 2 Meg RAM CPU with detached keyboard, internal 720K 3.5"
floppy and mouse.
SC 1224 - Color monitor
Master 3s - External 720K 3.5" disk drive and cables.
Supra 2400 - 2400 baud external modem with RS232 cable
Over 60+ disks of software and Public Domain (mostly games)
including:
Flash 1.6 Communications
Dungeon Master
Chaos Strikes Back With Maps (if you want them)
Sundog
and more...
Disk Case - Desktop disk holder with space for up to 90 disks
I'd like to sell the system as a whole (naturally) but I might consider
offers on individual items if there is enough interest. I'm asking $1150 +
shipping for the whole shibang.
E-mail bgrave@ub.d.umn.edu if interested.
--
Brian Grave bgrave@ub.d.umn.edu
"When I die I'm going to leave my body to science ... fiction."
- Steven Wright
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Date: 24 Jul 91 02:44:01 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!emory!gatech!pitt!unix.cis.pitt.edu!gvl
f3.gvl.unisys.com!tredysvr!cellar!revpk@arizona.edu (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano)
Subject: Multisync Monitor question
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I'm led to believe that, with a Multisync monitor, I'd be able to use
both monochrome and color resolutions on my ST.
My question is: Does it matter just what kind of Multisync monitor I
get? I've seen some 2Ds as low as two hundred dollars-- would it workl with
an Omniswitch?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Brian Siano, Delaware Valley Skeptics
Rev. Philosopher-King of The First Church of the Divine Otis Redding
revpk@Cellar.UUCP "Ecrasez l'enfame!" - Voltaire
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Date: 25 Jul 91 02:21:14 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@uunet.uu.net
(Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Multisync Monitor question
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <3Rik63w164w@cellar.UUCP>, revpk@cellar.UUCP (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano)
writes:
>
> I'm led to believe that, with a Multisync monitor, I'd be able to use
>both monochrome and color resolutions on my ST.
That is true, although the mono is a bit grainy on the two such units I have
seen. It has been posted that will a high grade Multisync this is not true,
but I have not seen this.
>
> My question is: Does it matter just what kind of Multisync monitor I
>get? I've seen some 2Ds as low as two hundred dollars-- would it workl with
>an Omniswitch?
>
Yes, it does matter. There are some specs that the monitor must meet. I
suggest that you call Toad Computers (1-800-544-6923) and ask them. They have
introduced a monitor-switchbox/multisync adaptor box themselves (in
this months issue of Current Notes) which costs $59 ($39 for monitor switching
only). They should know the specs you need.
I am in no way connected with Toad blah blah.
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear
FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down
Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ."
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu |
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Date: 24 Jul 91 15:08:31 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@uunet.uu.net
(Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Powerdrone
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just got my new Current Notes, and there is a liquidation ad from
Bare Bones Software (Never heard of them, by the way). The poster
looking for Powerdrone my be interested that it is offered for $19.95
in this ad.
The number is 1-800-638-1123
I am in no way connected with this company, CN, etc. Just FYI.
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear
FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down
Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ."
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu |
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 91 16:12:53 GMT
From: System Administrator
<root@computing-and-management-sciences.sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk>
Subject: Roms for spectre 128
To: info-atari16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
Hello Atari users.. anyone in the UK know of a source of the Mac Roms
for the emulator? I have asked around local with no joy.
otherwise anyone know of a suitable location stateside?
ok cheers Mick root@uk.ac.scp.cms
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Date: 25 Jul 91 01:40:57 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!tdrga@arizona.edu
(Todd Drga)
Subject: Tape backup question
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Has anyone put together their own tape backup system? If so, what type
of mech and controller did you use? What software?
On a related note, what mech does the ICD FaST tape backup system use?
I have a ICD Advantage Plus controller hooked to a Syquest 555 and a
Seagate ST296N. I am wondering what kind of tape backup I could add in
to the system. I also need to know what software (besides the ICD FaST
software) will support tape backup on the ST.
Thanks,
Todd Drga
--
= INTERNET-> tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga, UT Dept. of Drama) =
= =
= ' The dry grass will set fire to the damp grass ' =
= =
= African proverb brought to the Americas by slaves =
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Date: 24 Jul 91 11:30:38 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!keele!nott-cs!unicorn!cczcole@uunet.uu.net (Marlon Cole)
Subject: The demise of ST World
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <A0b8xluu@mwowm.mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk writes:
>In <1991Jul19.104543.3204@newcastle.ac.uk>, Dave Halliday writes:
>>
>> I'll reserve judgement on the new look ST User untill I have seen it.
>> If the editorial staff from ST World move over to ST User it could be
>> very good.
>
>Erm, the "New Look ST User" is the one which has been on the shelves for
>the last six months. It's marginally less crap than it used to be now that
>the old ST World crew write for it, but it's still pretty dire.
>
>Or is there a NEW new-look ST User?
>
The August copy says that the New new-look ST User will feature ST World
incorporated within its pages, so it will be another re-vamp.
Personally I object to the current new-look being written for 10 year olds
by (seemingly) 10 year olds - a picture of Bart Simpson on the front of a
recent edition says it all, I think.
Hopefully the writing style and coverage, will change for the better (and
elder!), but I guess not.
Still none of the ads. in it are mentioning Mega STEs for sale - anyone
in the UK got one yet, and if so, for how much?
Marlon Cole
Systems Programmer
Cripps Computing Centre
University of Nottingham.
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Date: 24 Jul 91 17:46:19 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Bryan_Jones_Woodwo
rth@arizona.edu
Subject: Use Unlzh 1.72 for Unlzhing! Works with all!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have heard ENOUGH! I don't see why everyone has problems with LZH and
LHarc.. All you need to do is use UNLZH 1.72 and all your files will be
unlzh'd easily and painlessly! It uses a nice GEM interface and I have
had *no* problems with it.
I use DC Utilities' DC Xtract 2.0 to LZH files. Before I upload them, I
"test" the archive for errors. Once in a while the file fails the CRC check,
but when it passes 95% of the time, I proceed to upload it.
If you do the above -- use UNLZH 1.72 to unlzh, then use a LZH'r which can
test LZHives -- you will have no problems whatsoever. However, there is no
way you can get around bad LZH files someone else may have uploaded. WE
just need to encourage everyone to test their LZH'd files; otherwise, use
ARC.
Here is how to get Unlzh 1.72 from Terminator:
(This is the description of the file):
>unlzh172.lzh 176 Unlharc version 1.72. I don't use this one. :).
YOU SHOULD :)
Request terminology:
send archivers/unlzh172.lzh
Enclosed in a message to: atari@atari.archive.umich.edu
sincerely, Bryan_Jones_Woodworth@cup.portal.com
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Date: 24 Jul 91 15:44:27 GMT
From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid)
Subject: Wanted: Digitizer for ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello,
I'm looking for a sound digitizer for the ST. I remember
a few years ago that there were a couple models which plug into the
cartridge port. I would like a mic jack as well as normal audio input
like from a CD player if that type of thing is available.
Please reply E-mail
Stephan
--
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu Stephan R. Cleaves Salamanders Are Cool...
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Date: 24 Jul 91 18:56:24 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hpmcaa!patrick@arizona.edu
(Patrick Hawke)
Subject: WANTED: Stereo-Tek Glasses
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Is there a Commercial Source available for the Stereo-Tek Glasses?
DO You have a pair you want to sell?
Contact Me:
___
/__/ ___
/atrick /
<_/ames/__/
/ /awke
patrick@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com
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Date: 24 Jul 91 13:41:24 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!roda
n.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@arizona.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Word Perfect and fonts
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I don't believe WP uses gdos fonts, so I was wondering if any
of the font manipulators out there will allow you to use
different fonts with WP for the ST? I'd even be interested if
a program allows you to replace the system font...as long as
WP doesn't simply override that and return to the original
system font when it loads.
Does anybody have any ideas?
Thanks,
Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
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Date: 24 Jul 91 16:04:52 GMT
From: bonnie.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!bright@uunet.uu.net (Bob Bright)
Subject: Word Perfect and fonts
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jul24.134124.20465@rodan.acs.syr.edu> ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
(Gerald Greenberg) writes:
>I don't believe WP uses gdos fonts, so I was wondering if any
>of the font manipulators out there will allow you to use
>different fonts with WP for the ST? I'd even be interested if
>a program allows you to replace the system font...as long as
>WP doesn't simply override that and return to the original
>system font when it loads.
>Does anybody have any ideas?
A couple of years ago I needed some special characters in a document I
was working on. I tried replacing the system font using font.ttp, and
also some accessory that does a similar trick (the name escapes me
right now), but in each case WP just reverted to using the normal
system font. I know that my new font was resident, because when I
called up the Alt/Ctl key mapping screen, the table of characters at
the bottom was displayed using the new font; but for some reason WP
would only display the normal system font on the document screen.
I called WPCorp to find out whether they had hard-coded the address of
the ROM character tables into the program, or whether the program uses
its own built-in display font (which just happens to be identical to
the system font). The ST Support person didn't want to tell me much
(it seems that WPCorp takes a dim view of people hacking on their
executables), but did finally hint that the program uses its own
fonts. So I went searching through the program with a binary editor,
thinking that I would find the character tables and modify them
directly. But I wasn't able to locate them. :-( Truth to be told, I
don't even know exactly what to look for.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd be forever grateful, as I'm sure
would Gerry and others who would like to see some different characters
in their WP documents.
BBB
--
Bob Bright <bright@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Dept. of Philosophy
University of Manitoba
Winnipeg, Man R3T 2N2 (204) 474-9105
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Date: 24 Jul 91 20:21:29 GMT
From: fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!gs32+@sei.cmu.edu
(Geoffrey Spear)
Subject: Word Perfect and fonts
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I don't think WP uses GDOS fonts, it just selects the fonts from those
the printer has available (I have a VERY OLD Okidata and I have no font
options...)
Geoffrey Spear
gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon Summer Pre-College
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