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Info-Atari16 Digest Vol. 91 Issue 343
Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 20 Jun 91 Volume 91 : Issue 343
Today's Topics:
8/16 MHz speed switch
Clock for ST; ST vs STE, and other questions (2 msgs)
Double click software (2 msgs)
gcc 1.40
Hi Metafont freaks...
inaccessability of GEM on boot
International Character sets (was Re: man w/ pipe)
LHarc/PFX - address request
lharc woes (AGAIN, was Is musedt.lzh corrupted?)
loadspx
MegaMax Asteroids
Midimaze II - Registration
One program, one week, for one year!
Re: GNU Make troubles: 2 bombs!
RTS/CTS (was Re: set-up for Practical Peripherals 9600 modem?)
Spectre/Atari formats
SUpra2400 modem and cable for sale
VIDTEX ( RLE )
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Date: 20 Jun 91 06:35:49 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: 8/16 MHz speed switch
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Just to clearify.... SPEED.PRG works ON all STs.... The speed change bit
for MEGA STE or ST with Hypercache takes only 10 or 20 bytes, so if you
want the ALT key-pad stuff you can still use it in your AUTO-folder !!
Lars-Erik / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ ________________________
Osterud / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / The norwegian ST
__________/ ______________________/ ____/ / Klubben, user association
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Date: 19 Jun 91 22:38:35 GMT
From: fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!Azog-Thoth@uunet.uu.net (William Thomas
Daugustine)
Subject: Clock for ST; ST vs STE, and other questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Well, Ive got a load of questions. I hope I can keep my attention centered
long enough to post them...
1. Is there a clock available for the ST? Ive a 520ST and I kinda find if
annoying that I have to reset the clock each time I want to use my
computer. Is there a device I can build or buy thatll battery back the
clock?
2. Whats the difference between various ST models. Such as the ST vs
STE. I know the E means Enhanced or something. I am wondering if its
possible to modify my 520STFM to be an STE? Also, in a coupla months,
I plan to upgrade my RAM, either 2mb or 4mb, and also want to know
whats the difference between an upgraded 520ST, to say a Mega-2 or
-4?
3. Anyone have TOS 1.4 they wanna sell? :-) Ive the 6 chip version 1.0,
and want to upgrade. Im sure that someone must have upgraded their
1.4 machine to a higher rev, and now has the 1.4 chipset just laying
around.
4. Finally. CPU accelarators? I see in a mag or two that one company
makes a 16MHz 68000 thats pretty simple to install. Is there any
other CPU replacements, like an 020 or an 030? (dont tell me get a
TT, I never buy computers new :-) I know that these must exist, but
am looking for opinions on the 'best' (cost effective and also
installation, and how good it is in speeding up the processor)
Thanx!
Billy D'Augustine
Azog-Thoth@cup.portal.com
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Date: 20 Jun 91 00:56:06 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.ed
u!rjast1@arizona.edu (Robert J Anisko)
Subject: Clock for ST; ST vs STE, and other questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <43478@cup.portal.com> Azog-Thoth@cup.portal.com (William Thomas
Daugustine) writes:
>
>Well, Ive got a load of questions. I hope I can keep my attention centered
>long enough to post them...
>
>1. Is there a clock available for the ST? Ive a 520ST and I kinda find if
>annoying that I have to reset the clock each time I want to use my
>computer. Is there a device I can build or buy thatll battery back the
>clock?
Easiest thing would be to find an old Magic Sac cartridge (the early
MAC emulator) minus the ROMS - I believe if you pop a battery in there, it has
a clock that will work fine for you. I personally use the clock built
into my Deskcart cartridge...
>2. Whats the difference between various ST models. Such as the ST vs
>STE. I know the E means Enhanced or something. I am wondering if its
>possible to modify my 520STFM to be an STE? Also, in a coupla months,
>I plan to upgrade my RAM, either 2mb or 4mb, and also want to know
>whats the difference between an upgraded 520ST, to say a Mega-2 or
>-4?
There are various differences between the ST and STe series, most notably
enhanced color (4096 colors, instead of 512 palette) and stereo sound.
Also a newer TOS (like DOS on the IBM), etc. An STe owner could better
compare... Oh, a biggie: ALOT easier to upgrade the ram of an STe -
just pop in some SIMMS (whereas with the ST you need a memory board
setup to upgrade)... As for Mega, I believe the main difference is
a couple extra expansion port(s)....
>3. Anyone have TOS 1.4 they wanna sell? :-) Ive the 6 chip version 1.0,
>and want to upgrade. Im sure that someone must have upgraded their
>1.4 machine to a higher rev, and now has the 1.4 chipset just laying
>around.
Nah, I like my 1.4s...
>4. Finally. CPU accelarators? I see in a mag or two that one company
>makes a 16MHz 68000 thats pretty simple to install. Is there any
>other CPU replacements, like an 020 or an 030? (dont tell me get a
>TT, I never buy computers new :-) I know that these must exist, but
>am looking for opinions on the 'best' (cost effective and also
>installation, and how good it is in speeding up the processor)
There are two 16mhz 68000 upgrades - by ICD (AdSpeed) and the Turbo16
by Jim Allen. A 20mhz version by Jim Allen is supposed to be coming
soon. Then there is the Gadgets by Small 68030 upgrade, which I believe
is at 32mhz (Dave?)...
>Thanx!
No problem...
Robert Anisko
rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
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Date: 19 Jun 91 12:46:30 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!simvax.labmed
.umn.edu!davidli@arizona.edu
Subject: Double click software
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <sgHs41w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Michel Forget) writes:
> dh@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk writes:
>...If they're listening now, though, I
> wonder if they will ever write a program that allows you to change paths
> on your hard drive from a "tree"? This would be a good program, since
> GEM is such a pain to use when you want to go several layers deep.
DC Desktop has the ability to place folders on the desktop, so I guess they've
already addressed your problem.
In a similar vein, I came across a program posted to GENIE last week called
LOGDRIVE -- it basically let's you set a folder on your hard drive as a logical
drive. I haven't used it yet (too many other things to do last week...), but
I can see about posting it to the atari.archive site if it isn't already there.
I don't remember if the program is shareware or no...
--
David Paschall-Zimbel davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
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Date: 19 Jun 91 15:25:08 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.w
isc.edu!aplcen!boingo.med.jhu.edu!haven.umd.edu!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!b
oyd@arizona.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Double click software
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <sent.Tue.Jun.18.18:18:33.GMT.1991.via.CS.TARDIS>,
dh@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk writes:
>I've just heard about DC softwares commitment to produce one program per
>week for this year to show their commitmet to the ST.
>
>As a journalist abuot to write an article on DC, I'd like to hear from
>someone at Double Click to tell me more about this. I reckon we must
>be nearly halfway through the year now, so have 26 programs been released?
>
Take a peek in the DC directory on atari.archive. I don't know about 26
this year, but there has been lots of really neat stuff released recently.
By the way, before I got Neodesk I used to use DCshowit (and loved it).
Unfortunetely you cannot use it from within Neodesk. Any chance of a
stand alone .ttp version for us Neodesk folks?
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear
FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down
Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ."
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu |
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Date: 19 Jun 91 20:53:33 GMT
From: cadence!cadence.com!bammi@uunet.uu.net (Jwahar R. Bammi)
Subject: gcc 1.40
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jun18.081500.851@cs.nott.ac.uk> dpg@cs.nott.ac.uk (Dave Gymer)
writes:
>
> After all the recent discussion about the forthcoming release of gcc 1.40
gcc-1.40 for the St is already our there. see update10.zoo on
atari.archive
> on the ST, I'd like to make an appeal to those who are actually doing the
> work: please, please, please make sure that it does NOT mangle filenames
huh, all you got to do is set the env variable UNIXMODE
appropriately. see UNIXMODE.doc in the lib sources. it will be
perfectly happy to use the other env variables (GNULIB etc) with
forward slashes in them.
--
--
bang: uunet!cadence!bammi jwahar r. bammi
domain: bammi@cadence.com
GEnie: J.Bammi
CIS: 71515,155
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1991 13:39 N
From: HANTKE%KVI.NL@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Hi Metafont freaks...
To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi Metafont-freaks,
I have been running METAFONT (mf.arc from the mail server in Utrecht) to make
the printer fonts for my NEC P6. Since a definition of a NEC mode did not work
(something `hard wired` in the preloaded mf ?), I had to cheat: I adapted the
mode_def `dover' to 360 dpi, and ran the packet for scaled and unscaled fonts.
While the output of unscaled fonts is o.k., for _scaled_ fonts I get the error
message by `mydvi': Wrong magnification!
The PKTYPE-output (see appendix) shows a resolution of 256 dpi (?). Scaled
PK-files sent in the NEC-P6-HIGH packet by S.Lindner are in 512 dpi resolution
and seem to work. Also the `Design size' is different.
- What does the `resolution' mean?
- Did I forget a crucial parameter for mf ?
- What's a preloaded version? Does this mean that plain.bas in somehow
included in mf.ttp?
- How do you make a preloaded version yourself (that (un)dump-business)?
All contributions are greatly appreciated,
Thomas.
(hantke@kvi.nl)
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Date: 19 Jun 91 23:09:49 GMT
From:
munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!brolga!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@uunet.uu.net
(Warwick Allison)
Subject: inaccessability of GEM on boot
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
>To install a program as the auto-exec GEM program in TOS 1.4
>and newer, you click on the program, then click "Install Application" and
>select "Auto" for the "Boot Status." Then Save Desktop to save this
>selection to disk.
This is quite silly when you think about it. Why would you Install an
application as Auto start and then NOT save the desktop. I am suprised
that this isn't done automatically (or at least by default). I am also
confused as to why the disk is accessed (considerably) when you install
a program file as auto-start.
Warwick.
--
_-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
/ * <-- Computer Science Department,
\_.-._/ University of Queensland,
v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
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Date: 19 Jun 91 14:51:48 GMT
From:
news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!lsuc!jimomura@uunet.uu.net
(Jim Omura)
Subject: International Character sets (was Re: man w/ pipe)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <2007@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>
>>| >Darnded right! Atari really screwed up. Why didn't they use the IBM
character
>>|
>>| The real question is why IBM doesn't have Bob in its character set.
>
>>Well, actually why doesn't *everyone* use ISO-Latin-1 ?
>
>I heard Atari was trying to capture the Arab market (so that's what all those
>squiggles are!)
Well, actually, the North American version has Hebrew letters.
We don't have Arabic.
--
Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880
lsuc!jimomura
Byte Information eXchange: jimomura
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 91 14:15:48 MEZ
From: Wolfgang Ley <BWWL%DCZTU1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: LHarc/PFX - address request
To: Atari ST users forum <Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
Hello!
A few weeks ago i received a mail about LHARC 1.13.21 by Thomas Quester.
I have discard the news, and now i don't know how to get the adress of
Thomas Quester. I would like to have Lharc 1.13.21 and the new PFX.
(I do not know if PFX is written by Thomas too....)
Thanks for any information, bye Wolfgang Ley.
from BITNET: BWWL@DCZTU1.BITNET
from Internet: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de
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Date: 19 Jun 91 15:01:09 GMT
From:
news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!lsuc!jimomura@uunet.uu.net
(Jim Omura)
Subject: lharc woes (AGAIN, was Is musedt.lzh corrupted?)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jun19.012653.8005@convex.com> rosenkra@convex.com (William
Rosencranz) writes:
>
>as an (outspoken?) opponent of lharc (until it gets it sh*t together),
>i read with interest a previous post about testing at least a dozen
>(!!!!!!!) versions of lharc on a particularly nasty file. since at least
>one of them (2, i think) worked, the file COULD be considered "good"
>(not by ME or any other sane, rational user, however).
>
>then i came across this gem:
>
>In article <1991Jun18.151348.795@ccu.umanitoba.ca> bright@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Bob
Bright) writes:
>>(To all the progenitors of lharc and .lzh files: I hope you die a
>>thousand miserable deaths, choking forever on the few megs of disk
>>space you've managed to save the world at the expense of countless
>>hours of frustration and wasted time and net bandwidth.)
>
>i LOVE this guy. he hits the point home! "a pox on you [lharc-ers] and
>all your ancesters" as ed norton would say :-).
>
>and NO, as much as i would REALLY like to, i will NOT eat my words (yet :-)
>
>so you STILL think i am nuts? (rhetorical: don't answer that... :-)
>
Well, I wouldn't exactly say that, but I agree that all the
incompatible versions are bad enough that I won't support LHARC
for the time being either. In retrospect, the law suit against
Phil Katz by the originator or "ARC" was right too. Katz was on
the same road to messing up the .arc file standard that these
guys are on with .lzh files. The only things I use by choice now
are ARC 6.02 and Zoo. At least I know with some certainty that
anyone on almost any computer in the world will be able to unpack
these and with a minimum of frustration due to "incompatible versions."
--
Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880
lsuc!jimomura
Byte Information eXchange: jimomura
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Date: 20 Jun 91 09:04:42 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorke
lwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!lsmichae@ar
izona.edu (Lars Michael)
Subject: loadspx
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu (L.J.Dickey) writes:
>In article binaries newsgroup, the file
> v15i005: loadspx -- Spectrum picture viewer
>I tried running the file "loadspx.prg" and succeded in getting nothing
>but a warm boot.
>There was no documentation, and no information about system requirements.
>Can anyone shed some light on this?
loadspx needs a file named madonna.spc (included in the sources of loadspx
in c.sources.a.s) and a color monitor (of course 8-) ). Both files *must*
be in the same dir.
You may rename any SPC or SPU into MADONNA.SPC and run loadspx to show it.
Hope this helps,
---
Lars
+----------------------------------------+----------------------------------+
| lsmichae@faui43.uni-erlangen.de | | | | |
| Lars Michael | | | | "Down with ATARI, |
| Graduate Student of Computer Science | / | \ Long live the ST !" |
| at University of Erlangen/Germany | / | \ |
+----------------------------------------+----------------------------------|
| "May the Schwartz be with you!" |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: 19 Jun 91 19:43:02 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu
!utgpu!watserv1!watcgl!electro.com!george@arizona.edu (George Reimer)
Subject: MegaMax Asteroids
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Over the last few years I have been able to enjoy
the Megamax version of asteroids on my ST.
There is a menu option which offers you the source
code for $25.
Has anyone sent away for this? Is it still available?
Is Megamax still in business? If not, does anyone know
where I can get a copy of the source?
thanks in advance
--
_______________________________________
|---|---|line--upon--line---|---|---|---| watmath!watcgl!electro!george
|---|--building the foundations-|---|---|---| george@electro.com
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 91 14:20:13 MEZ
From: Wolfgang Ley <BWWL%DCZTU1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Midimaze II - Registration
To: Atari ST users forum <Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
HI!
I am a great fan of MIDIMAZE II. The archive I received doesn't contain the
address of Markus Fritze (Sigma-Soft), but a Registration-File, saying
the Maze-editor will cost 50.- DM.
Does anybody know where to sent the 50.-DM ??
If so, can you tell me even the Kto-Nr. and the BLZ??
Thanks in advance, Wolfgang Ley
from BITNET: BWWL@DCZTU1.BITNET
from Internet: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de
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Date: 20 Jun 91 00:35:20 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh
.edu!uace0@arizona.edu (ATARI Computer Enthusiasts)
Subject: One program, one week, for one year!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
OK, let's settle this once and for all. Here is our commitment:
We at Double Click Software will write one (1) FREEWARE program per week for
one (1) year.
Officially, we announced our intentions to the known universe in February,
however, we were already doing this from October 1990. To date, we have well
over 26 programs released.
If you are on GEnie, you can do a search on the name DOUBLE-CLICK and find
out for sure that we did start back in October 1990. On Compuserve, just go
to Atarivendors area 13 and do a DIR on our library (13) and you will see
nearly four (4) pages of programs.
When we call it quits, is up to us (hee hee). Officially, we have it marked
down on our calendar already. However, no one knows whether we could stop
'cold turkey.' <grin>
So, yes, we are regularly releasing a program each week to:
GEnie
Compuserve
the Double Click Software BBS
and the InterNET (altho the moderator is _extremely_ slooooooow!!! at releasing)
I know that they haven't been released on the internet regularly (we just sent
all of them to him about 6 weeks ago, and have been sending him one a week since
then) from the moderator.
So... We will have nothing to do with 'nay-sayers,' because we are doing it,
and have been for almost nine months already. <nyah nyah> :-)
Any other questions? :-)
- mike vederman
--
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Voice: (713)977-6520 | DC DESKTOP | DC FORMATTER | DC UTILITIES | and others
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Date: 20 Jun 91 08:51:24 GMT
From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Subject: Re: GNU Make troubles: 2 bombs!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
++ >my 4080STFM.
++
++ You mean 4160.
You ain't seen my soldering :-)
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Date: 19 Jun 91 22:09:15 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu!csn!boulder!tramp.Colorado.EDU!millert@arizona.edu (MILLER TODD C)
Subject: RTS/CTS (was Re: set-up for Practical Peripherals 9600 modem?)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
That was probably me. TOS14FIX.PRG has a bug (actually a typo) where an RTS
instruction should have been an RTE instruction. There is was article
in ST Report a while back that told how to fix it. Or you can get tos14fx5.lzh
from atari.archive that has the bug fixed and adds xbra support. The fixed
version is by Karsten Isakovic.
- todd
--
Todd C. Miller | "But all the politiCIAns now
millert@tramp.Colorado.EDU | They have no excuse
al804@cleveland.Freenet.Edu | They just hide behind their power
University of Colorado @ Boulder | And keep us from the truth" - Roger McGuinn
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Date: 19 Jun 91 20:58:52 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!gvlf3.gvl.unisys.com!tred
ysvr!cellar!darling@arizona.edu (Darling)
Subject: Spectre/Atari formats
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I'm looking at a Spectre GCR system, which apparently reads Mac disks
straight away, and wondering: if I buy such a thing, is there an easy way to
transfer files from ST disks to Mac disks and vice versa? It seems that if
both formats can be accessed this should be no big deal. Is such a copy
utility included/available?
Anyone?
~
darling@cellar.UUCP \\\ Thomas Darling * record production * dance re-mixing
uunet!cellar!darling \\\ Fact HQ Studio * The Cellar BBS:215/336-9503 * FACT
v
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Date: 20 Jun 91 02:55:52 GMT
From: beguine!bbs.oit.unc.edu@mcnc.org (Duncan Lewis)
Subject: SUpra2400 modem and cable for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Brand new condition Supra2400 modem with serial cable
for sale in original boxes. 75.00+shipping.
all manuals and cables included.
-Dunc.
--
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Date: 20 Jun 91 00:41:22 GMT
From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid)
Subject: VIDTEX ( RLE )
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello out there,
VIDTEX graphics ( RLE ) used to be a big deal in the Atari world,
BBS's used to have them so you could view pictures while logged onto the
BBS. This is way cool and for those of us with Flash, dearly missed. What
I'm looking for is a UNIX program which might convert GIF's to RLE and then
send them to be viewed in Flash or any other VIDTEX viewer. Any Ideas?
Stephan
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