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Info-Atari16 Digest Tue, 10 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 475
Today's Topics:
2.5 Meg ST for sale.
Atari 1040ST and SC1224 for sale.
Atari 1040STFM and misc items for sale
Atari ST stuff for sale pt3
flaky 520 for sale (use it for parts)
Gemini/Fonts
Hard Disk problems and FOLDRXXX.PRG
Help! Strange Hard drive problems.
help running oxyd
Help setting up Sozobon
I want to view PIC files!!
Kermit for the ST
Poolfix not needed for TOS 1.62 [was Re: Gulam problems]
SC1224 Color Monitor & Software for sale (2 msgs)
ST OBJECT/EXE FORMATS
Vault 3.0 gives me 2 bombs (2 msgs)
Wanted: various Abacus ST books.
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Date: 9 Sep 91 16:49:56 GMT
From: psinntp!uupsi!stiatl!iam@nyu.arpa (Ian Mercado)
Subject: 2.5 Meg ST for sale.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
FOR SALE:
Atari 1040 ST w/2.5 meg upgradable to 4
2 megs worth of 1Mbit 150ns chips
50 megs of reliable hard drive storage all in one SH204 case
1 QMI Deskcart cartridge w/ battery backed up clock (Brand new battery)
1 external DS floppy drive
1 SC1224 Color Monitor
1 SM124 Monochrome monitor
1 Astra monitor switching device
1 Atari joystick
250+ disks of STuff
$900 or best offer takes all.
I've got the docs on order on how to upgrade to 4 meg. It's possible that
by the time you read this, it will be a 4 meg machine.
Contact by e-mail, or (if desperate) at (404)841-5125.
-------- ---- ---- -- | Ian Mercado: iam@salestech.com |
-- - - ----- -- | emory!slammer!stiatl!iam |
-- -------- -- ----- | |
-------- -- -- -- ---- | "I'd rather be flying." |
--
-------- ---- ---- -- | Ian Mercado: iam@salestech.com |
-- - - ----- -- | emory!slammer!stiatl!iam |
-- -------- -- ----- | |
-------- -- -- -- ---- | "I'd rather be flying." |
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Date: 10 Sep 91 02:27:07 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-stat
e.edu!mckinley!rohde@arizona.edu (Joseph T. Rohde)
Subject: Atari 1040ST and SC1224 for sale.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello,
I am posting for a friend the following equipment:
1 Atari 1040 ST, 1Mb RAM, And Atari SC1224 color monitor.
$450 for the set. (and as a bonus, you get the original
Lord of the Rings game [map and all])
This of course include the mouse, joystick and mousepad.
All equipment in excellent condition.
Please respond via E-Mail to rohde@mckinley.eng.ohio-state.edu.
Thank you.
Joe Rohde
--
:-------------------- rohde@eng.ohio-state.edu ------------------:
: He's dead Jim, you get his tri-corder, I'll get his wallet :
:------------------------------------------------------------------:
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Date: 10 Sep 91 00:53:20 GMT
From: ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!news@rutgers.rutgers.edu (----* Ho Ling Cherd
*----)
Subject: Atari 1040STFM and misc items for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have the following for sale:
Atari 1040 STfm
- CPU /w keyboard
- 1 MG RAM
- built in 720K 3.5" floppy disk drive
- RF port - for hooking up to color TV or VCR
--- $300 or best offer
Atari Sc1224 (GoldStar) RGB Color Monitor
--- best offer with the 1040 Stfm
Back Pack - utilities in catridge --- best offer
Procopy ST (copying software) --- $5.00 obo
ST-Talk (communication) --- $7.00 obo
Haba Check Minder (checking account reminder) --- $7.00 obo
Print Master Plus (graphics utility ) --- $10.00 obo)
Gnictron Football (Football Game) --- $7.00 obo
Space Shuttle (Game) --- $7.00 obo
Defender of the Crown (Game) --- $10.00 obo
Tanglewood (Game) --- $3.00 not working with TOS 1.0 and 1.6
The Darkness Rises (Game) --- $10.00 obo
Fast (ST Dos and other utilties) --- $7.00 obo
Dungeon Master (Game) --- $5.00 no manual but with maps and hints
Falcon (Game) --- $15.00 obo
Epstart (Macintosh Epson printer driver for Spectre ) --- $30 obo
VIP professional (Spreadsheet - Lotus 123 clone) --- $25.00 no manual
and
2 atari joysticks --- free with the stfm
dusk cover for 1040STFM free with the STFM
Box of 10 DIsk with PD and Sharewares free with the STFM
or $480 (obo) for the whole package
Buyer pay shippings.
Please e-mail to lchd_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Thanks.
..
Ling Cherd
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Date: 9 Sep 91 16:58:53 GMT
From: news.larc.nasa.gov!air12.larc.nasa.gov!dmk@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Atari ST stuff for sale pt3
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
(continued from Atari ST stuff for sale pt3)
Manhattan Dealers Silmarils $10
Fight street crime. Kick, punch, and shove your way through. Even
the spectators are hostile. Much like Double Dragon.
Starglider II Rainbird $15
The ulitmate space flight game. Fly from planet to planet, over
the planet's surface, and inside the planet. Awsome. Caution-
may not work with TOS 1.4
GFL Championship Football Gamestar $10
Football from the quarterback's point of view. Not my cup of tea
but may be yours
Battle of Britain Lucasfilm $25
Fly a plane from WWII, either side.
King's Quest IV Sierra $25
Help Rosella rescue her father.
Applications:
Easy Draw Migraph $25
This is an old version, maybe you can upgrade.
n-Vision Audio Light $15
Drawing program?
PC Board Designer Abacus $25
Never used this but looks nice from the package.
Modula-2/ST TDI Software $20
Never used this either, probably an old version
Micro C-Shell David Beckemeyer $20
For those who like CLI's instead of the Point-and-Shoot interface.
Revolver Intersect Software $25
Turns your ST into several virtual ST's. You can have more than
one program active at once and switch between them.
Professional VIP $20
A spreadsheet program.
Misc:
New Technology Coloring Book Software Toolworks $10
An electronic coloring book. Mostly for kids.
Smoothtalker First Byte $10
A software speech synth. Don't expect miracles here.
Little Computer People Activision $20
Ever wondered about the little man in your computer that gets all
those calculations done. Give him a home of his own.
Hardware:
Video Key Practical Solutions $40
Use a standard TV for display. Unit has TV, Composite video, and
Sound outputs. Works best with low-res.
Keyboard Springs Free
These are a set of springs that go under the keyboard to stiffen
them up. I liked the mushy keyboard better. These will go with
the first order to request them (you must order something else).
I have thrown some of the boxes out, but will try to find them if
requested. If the price is too high, wait a week, I'll lower it. But
don't wait too long, it may be gone!
Daniel M. Koppen / Internet: dmk@air12.larc.nasa.gov
NASA / LaRC \ 128.155.18.12
Hampton, VA. / Everything posted is my own personal opinion!
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Date: 9 Sep 91 20:20:00 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu
!ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu!v115lue3@arizona.edu (apprentice of the obvious)
Subject: flaky 520 for sale (use it for parts)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I've got a [flaky] 520ST that I'll sell to whoever makes me a reasonable offer.
Flaky means that it works intermittently; sometimes when you boot you'll get
various numbers of bombs on the screen. Not being a hardware type I don't have
the time to get around to finding out what is wrong with it. If you'd like to
use it for parts, repair, or something along those lines...here are the specs:
520ST unexpanded - 6 TOS chip sockets
external single-sided drive
mouse (the plug on the end of the cord has been torn off)
come on...you know you'll have fun fixing it
.Philip
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Date: 7 Sep 91 21:09:48 GMT
From: opel!ss2!fredw!fred@uunet.uu.net (Fred Wells)
Subject: Gemini/Fonts
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <172870@unix.cis.pitt.edu> rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
(Robert J Anisko) writes:
>
> Got a problem maybe someone can help me with:
>
> I wish to add some other fonts to be used with Gemini (other than
> the SYSTEM and 2 Gemini fonts), but for whatever reason cannot figure
> out how to do so properly. Here's what I tried:
> - copy all the new fonts to the same directory as the Gemini fonts
> (C:\GEMSYS\FONTS\)
> - edit the ASSIGN.SYS file, adding the name of the fonts to each
> section (i.e. ST Low, etc)
> -and reboot
>
> But when I load up Gemini, it seems that only the original
> 3 fonts are there. Am I doing something blatantly wrong?
> BTW am using the AMCLIGHT file found with Gemini)...
I had the same problem. Basically, the problem was that Gemini apparently
can ONLY USE PROPORTIONALLY SPACED FONTS. I wanted to use a smaller font that
would allow me to legibly use 24 lines in the Console Window that didn't
extend off of the screen in medium res (wanted to use vi). Using a font
editor, it was apparent that all of the fonts I was trying to use weren't
proportional. Gemini wouldn't even recognize any font that wasn't. I
think that the docs stated that somewhere. I seem to remember reading that
afterwards. Anyway, I finally gave up and went back to using Gulam. Hope
this is helpful.
--
--------------------------------------------------
Fred Wells uunet!opel!ss2!fredw!fred
Atari ST System
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Date: 9 Sep 91 22:42:27 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!nstn.ns.ca!cs.dal.ca
!silvert@arizona.edu (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Hard Disk problems and FOLDRXXX.PRG
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
My thanks to all who suggested that FOLDRXXX.PRG was the solution to my
hard drive problems, and apologies to all whom I told that I already had
it installed. I goofed, and it seems to have solved the problem.
My confusion arose because I upgraded my 1-Meg 520 to TOS 1.4 and then
removed FOLDRXXX.PRG from my AUTO folder. Then I bought a Mega-2 over
the net with TOS 1.2 and moved my HD to it without remembering that I
needed to reinstall FOLDRXXX.PRG.
I am however still puzzled. I've had the Mega-2 for about 6 months with
no problems, and the 40-folder problem raised its head only after I
installed Flash 1.6. Someone wrote me that he also had problems after
installing Flash. Anyone have any ideas about this? Keep in mind that
the problems I reported arose almost immediately after rebooting,
whereas previously I could do all kinds of stuff without running into
difficulty. Does Flash greatly up the folder count?
--
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577
InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca
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Date: 9 Sep 91 15:31:39 GMT
From:
pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!engage.pko.dec.com!ynotme.enet.dec.com!wallace@dec
wrl.dec.com (Ray Wallace)
Subject: Help! Strange Hard drive problems.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Sep8.122833.28413@cs.dal.ca>, silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert)
writes...
>I've just started having wierd hard-drive problems and am hoping that
Sounds like you may have run into the "40 folder" limit. If you are running
ICD hard disk software then up the folder limit with the config program,
otherwise get (and use) a copy of FOLDRXXX.PRG.
---
Ray Wallace
(INTERNET,UUCP) wallace@oldtmr.enet.dec.com
(UUCP) ...!decwrl!oldtmr.enet!wallace
(INTERNET) wallace%oldtmr.enet@decwrl.dec.com
---
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Date: 9 Sep 91 22:52:40 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.
oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu (Warwick Allison)
Subject: help running oxyd
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
wolfgang@cs.sfu.ca (Wolfgang Jung) writes:
>cscon105@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>>
>>I downloaded and extracted oxyd from atari.archive.
>>
>>There doesn't seem to be any docs, and I can't seem to get it to run.
>>
>>Anybody else been successful??
>>
>Actually OXYD is something called DONGLEWARE which just means, that you have
>to buy the OXYD Book (price about 50 DM form Aplication Systems Heidelberg)
>You should be able to play the first 10 Levels after loading.
>Put everthing onto a Floppydisk the .prg file into an AUTO-Folder.
>Turn Off your ST & HD. Turn back on the ST and WAITWAIT WAIT till the
>music starts ringing your ears. The rest should be easy (OXYD says the rest)
From my experience,
1. It doesn't work from the auto folder
2. It says the rest - in German (though this is fair enough)
3. There are NO docs readable from outside an Atari system
4. It doesn't work at all (the first Landscape is set at
impossible difficulty: every wall kills you, there
is a flying object that kills, the floor falls out
from beneath your feet, and there are no exits.
Also, I think `DongleWare' is a bit beyond the realms of what I'd like to
see at atari.archive. After downloading 450K at 2400 baud I was, to be blunt,
pissed off. It may be that the levels data is corrupted and this would not
be the author's fault. In fact, as OXYD loaded up and I saw the name
Meinolf Schneider
appear, I thought, ``Great! This guy writes in Modula-2, this is bound to
be a cool program''. And it is - or at least would be if it was playable.
Warwick
PS. A version of STrabble with support for TT-Medium resolution will appear
soon. I was so glad to see that STrabble ran without a hitch on my friend's
new TT. The TT screen will be almost IDENTICAL to an artist's impression of
a photograph of an IdentiKit make-up of a side-long glance by a blind
octagenarian wearing sunglasses in the middle of the night at a board game
someone once mentioned while under hypnosis recalling a Scrabble tournament
they played in a previous life. If you get my drift.
Ciao!
--
_-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
/ * <-- Computer Science Department,
\_.-._/ University of Queensland,
v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
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Date: 9 Sep 91 19:11:22 GMT
From: ads.com!pdel@decwrl.dec.com (Peter Delevoryas)
Subject: Help setting up Sozobon
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just tried to get Sozobon set up and seem to have gotten myself in
a bit of a mess.
First off, when I un-zoo'd Sozobon1 and Sozobon2, I kept getting prompts
about what looked like duplicate makefiles, because the un-zooer asked
whether to yes/no/all to the file. I assume this is yes-overwrite, no-
leave, all-overwrite all the time.
That was the first glitch.
Then, after getting it all un-zoo'd, I tried compiling some of the
.c files, and I kept getting an error, 'couldn't find dstart.o',
yet there was a dstart.o in the same directory ( I put EVERYTHING
in the same directory). Do I need to make separate directories for
some of these files? The manual seemed to indicate everything could
be in the same directory.
Let me give you some background on myself: I know nothing about setting
up C compilers; I'm taking a beginning C course and just want to have
something to do simple (at least right now) excercises and such. The class
uses C on a Unix platform (as does my work, which is where I do my homework),
so I'm hoping that the source code will work on my ST with not too much
editing
Thanks, Peter D.
--
login name: L1-A
In real life: Peter Delevoryas
In any other life: a cheap imitation
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Date: 9 Sep 91 18:57:07 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!wlbr!lonex.rl.af.mil!longj@uunet.uu.net (Jeffrey K.
Long)
Subject: I want to view PIC files!!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have several pc-dos based graphics files with a .pic extension on them
and I can't find a viewer to see them on my ST :-(
I have just grabbed the PBM+ stuff from a.a. and that didn't appear to have
anything that will do it. I have also tried: viewgif, picswitch, deskpic2
and just about every other thing that evenly remotely sounded like it would
do the job!
Anyone know where I can find such a beast?? (i.e. a xxxx.pic > mono-st
display)?
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Capt Jeff Long Rome Laboratories, Griffiss AFB, NY
longj@lonex.rl.af.mil (preferred) Network Design Laboratory
jlong@cassiopeia.rl.af.mil (315)330-7751 or (DSN)587-7751
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Date: 9 Sep 91 19:19:05 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!gatech!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!know!daemon@arizon
a.edu
Subject: Kermit for the ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Until I got my TT, I had always used UNITERM and found its implementation of
KERMIT to be the best of any program I had ever used. But, since UNITERM does
not take advantage of my 19" TTM195 monitor, I use STalker for telecomm. Since
STalker does not include KERMIT, I use a PD desk accessory called GEM-KERMIT.
While there are a few minor glitches, such as using the FINISH command, GEM-KERM
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Date: 9 Sep 91 19:17:58 GMT
From: fernwood!portal!atari!apratt@uunet.uu.net (Allan Pratt)
Subject: Poolfix not needed for TOS 1.62 [was Re: Gulam problems]
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Roger W. Sheppard, Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>> That was the reason that I posted my Arcticle in the First place,
>> Atari will not state if TOS 1.62 needs Poolfix, I would like a clear
>> statement from Atari on this..
ken@isgtec.uucp (Ken Newman) writes:
>I asked Bob Brodie a similar question on Compuserve a while ago, coming
>at it from a different angle, and got a fairly clear reply. I asked what
>the differences were between TOS 1.60 and 1.62, and he stated that there
>were exactly two differences:
>
> 1) fix for the DESKTOP.INF/low-res boot problem (formerly fixed
> by STEFIX.PRG)
> 2) fix for the memory pool problem (formerly fixed by POOLFIX3.PRG)
This is correct.
============================================
Opinions expressed above do not necessarily -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp.
reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else. ...ames!atari!apratt
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Date: 9 Sep 91 19:15:32 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.ed
u!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!grigsby@arizona.edu (Spiral Death Trap)
Subject: SC1224 Color Monitor & Software for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
The Mega 2 has been sold but the following are still available:
SC1224 Atari Color Monitor, works fine, undamaged, no surprises.
$200/bo.
WordUp, Fontz!, Dungeon Master, Weird Dreams, Captain Blood, Tanglewood,
Turbo, and a few other games maybe. All include documentation. Best offer.
-- grigsby@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
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Date: 9 Sep 91 23:07:03 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ukma!gatech!emory!att!news.cs.indiana.edu!pwp%iuvax.cs.indiana.edu@
arizona.edu (Paul Purdom)
Subject: SC1224 Color Monitor & Software for sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I may be interested, but a reply to your message does not appear to go
through.
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Date: 9 Sep 91 22:00:23 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!manuel!csis!dave@uunet.uu.net (David Campbell)
Subject: ST OBJECT/EXE FORMATS
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Can somebody please forward to me some information (as detailed as possible)
about Atari ST object and executable file formats including information on:
- The header
- Relocs
- Symbol flags
I cannot find ANY books on the subject & nobody at the user group seems to
know either.
Thanks mate.
-- dave@csis.dit.csiro.au
--
dave campbell
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Date: 9 Sep 91 14:44:33 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!pyrltd!root44!praxis!cged!johnr@uunet.uu.net (John Richards)
Subject: Vault 3.0 gives me 2 bombs
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I found a problem with Vault 3.0 a couple of days ago. I was backing up a
partition on to a total of six floppies. I wandered off while each disk was
being formatted and written to do other things. When I left it on one occasion
I returned to find Vault had crashed with two bombs. It had finished writing
the floppy in the drive and was waiting for me to put a new one in.
I restarted the full backup from scratch. Again I left it for about five
minutes at one stage and it crashed again in the same way.
I tried again, but stayed close to the machine. This time I managed to
complete the backup.
It seems it crashed if I left it waiting for a new disk for a few minutes.
Has anyone else noticed this, or is something else going on here?
System details: Mega 4 ST running TOS1.4, blitter and ICD hard disk.
--
John Richards
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Date: 9 Sep 91 18:45:55 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yal
e.edu!cs.yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!fischer-michael@arizona.edu (Michael Fischer)
Subject: Vault 3.0 gives me 2 bombs
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Sep9.144433.24268@cged.co.uk> johnr@cged.co.uk (John Richards)
writes:
>I found a problem with Vault 3.0 a couple of days ago....
>
>It seems it crashed if I left it waiting for a new disk for a few minutes.
>Has anyone else noticed this, or is something else going on here?
This is the bug that we just tracked down and that Robert Fischer was
referring to in his recent posting. It is caused by an error in the
bell-ringing code. A new version that fixes this bug will be posted
shortly (after some testing). In the meantime, you can avoid the bug
by shutting off the bell. You do this by setting the bell repeat
interval to 0.
Sorry for the problem. It's quite annoying to have a crash in the
middle of a long backup. I know---it's hit me a couple of times, too.
Thanks to you and others for reporting the problem and giving us
enough information to find the cause.
--
==================================================
| Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> |
==================================================
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Date: 10 Sep 91 04:02:58 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!ukma!psuvax1!psuvm!jjl101@arizona.edu (J.J. Lehett)
Subject: Wanted: various Abacus ST books.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
If any has any of these they would be willing to part with, please let me
know! Thanks!
********************************************************************
* * John J. Lehett * JJL101@PSUVM *
* J.J. * Penn State * *
* * Center for Academic Computing * JJL101@PSUVM.PSU.EDU *
********************************************************************
* Games, Puzzles, Cryptos, Diplomacy, Synths, Midi, Atari ST's! *
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