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In article <1991Jul11.143617.11854@crash.cts.com> chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com
(Chuck Schul) writes:
>in california there is a newsmagazine for all computers called microtimes
>they dropped atari coverage with no explanantion june 1991,another n
>magazoine dumping us!!!
>----
Well, I don't feel all that bad. I NEVER heard of 'em in the
first place, so losing a magazine that is THAT popular (sure ain't
Newsweek) doesn't seem like a life-threatening thing to me...
Robert Anisko
rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
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Date: 31 Jul 91 03:34:23 GMT
From: uupsi!mpoint!dave@rice.edu (Dave Lockwood)
Subject: BLACKOUTS
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
chuj@spot.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY) writes:
>I was wondering does blackouts have the same effect or any effect on the
>hardware as do surges?
The effect is generally no different than pulling the plug (which is a
no-no with digital equipment because you never know what it will do for
that split-second when it can't tell a 1 from a 0...disk drives are most
vulnerable here (not to hardware damage, but to data-damage).
HOWEVER, when the power comes back on, there is generally a surge, and yes,
your surge-protector will help. I generally turn off all the equipment
during a power-outage, and turn it back on only after the power has been
on steady for 10 minutes. I have a UPS*, so I rarely have to shut down,
and I can always do so gracefully.
>Of course I do have a surge protector, but it probably didn't help any
>in this situation. I might just be paranoid about this, but I'm just
>cautious about my cpus.
Yeah, it's paranoia, but it's healthy paranoia. :-) Some paranoids have
real enemies. Atari blamed the death of my first color monitor on "not
having a surge protector."
Cheers!
--
"There's a good creature. Let's talk | dave@msb.com (Dave Lockwood)
this over. I can get you diseases! | UUCP: ...!uupsi!mpoint!dave
You'd like that, wouldn't you?" | Sysop of Meetpoint Station BBS
- Dr. Catheter (Gremlins II) | cat flames | mail santa@north.pole
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Date: 29 Jul 91 13:10:40 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!sys-uea!mrh%uk.ac.uea.sys@uunet.uu.net (Mike Hinds)
Subject: Chaos Strikes Back
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Yes, I know everyones finished it, but I've not
had much time to play games, any way my questions.
I have found a scroll which appears to have some
coded information on it, can some one tell me how
to read this scroll. it starts GYNRAX well something
like that.
What does the Gem of Ages do ?
Are there four pairs of Boots of speed ? I've only
found the ones near the entrence to the Demond
Director.
PS is there anyway of getting the oracle to tell
me this sort of information ?
E-mail replies rather than postings please.
Thanks in Advance
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Date: 1 Aug 91 14:02:26 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@uunet.uu.net
(Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Custom floppy formatting
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <4858@beguine.UUCP>, Dan.Halevy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Dan Halevy) writes:
>
>Is there a program available that will allow a standard DSDD ST drive to
>read/analyse a custom format (let's say one of the many CP/M disk formats)
>and then either initialize other disks with the same format, or just read/write
>to this disk?
>
You would probably have good results by using a good commercial "backup"
program (probably one of the few legitimate uses for such a binary). You
could format a blank disk CP/M style, then copy it (using the "PROTECTED"
mode) with ProCopy or Acopy. This should yield a working disk.
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear
FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down
Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ."
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu |
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Date: 31 Jul 91 16:13:14 GMT
From: kira!news@uunet.uu.net (Robert B. Pegram)
Subject: Help!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
From article <1991Jul31.045324.18982@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, by
whitehe@cb.ecn.purdue.edu (Drew D Whitehead):
>
>
> Hello. I need some help. With my purchase of the Calamus Font Editor, I have
> discovered that I need more than 6 Accessories. Is there any programs out
> there that will allow you do add more than 6? If the people at ISD had made
> the thing a PROGRAM, it would be a lot easier.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Drew
Free (or shareware) Stuffer (by Double Click), available on
atari.archive.umich.edu, or from Steve Grimm (moderator of
comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st).
Commercial: Multidesk - 2.1 is last version I know of, is the best
solution I think. From Codehead software, Hollywood CA (really 8-).
You're welcome,
Bob Pegram
pegram@{griffin,kira,sadye,newton}.uvm.edu
or
!uvm-gen!pegram
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Date: 1 Aug 91 02:41:12 GMT
From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@uunet.uu.net (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: Help!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jul31.045324.18982@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
whitehe@cb.ecn.purdue.edu (Drew D Whitehead) writes:
>
>
> Hello. I need some help. With my purchase of the Calamus Font Editor, I have
> discovered that I need more than 6 Accessories. Is there any programs out
> there that will allow you do add more than 6? If the people at ISD had made
> the thing a PROGRAM, it would be a lot easier.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Drew
There is a Good reason why the Font Editor is a ACC, it so you can change
fonts even when Calamus is loaded..
Why do you need 6 ACC loaded all at once, Please explain ??
Do you use a Bootup utill like Desk Manager 33, this will let you select
the TSR's and ACC that you need at bootup for each application
that you wish to run, but note, only at bootup.
If you do need more that 6 ACC, then get Codeheads MultiDesk and
the Hotwire program, Hotwire can call MultiDesk as a application
and install all the ACC that you need for a given Application
with just a press of a key and at any time, not just at bootup
IE, Hotwire gives you Hot Keys that can install all the ACC's needed
for that Application and Install the program that you wish to run
and load the document as well, all from one key press.
Note: I don't work for Codehead..but I do think that they produce
some good accessary programs and utilities..
--
*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** 85 Donovan Rd * * At least I don't Flicker, not ***
*** Kapiti New Zealand.. * like a dying light globe. ! ***
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Date: 1 Aug 91 02:01:55 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.p
itt.edu!rjast1@arizona.edu (Robert J Anisko)
Subject: Help!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jul31.045324.18982@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
whitehe@cb.ecn.purdue.edu (Drew D Whitehead) writes:
>
>
>Hello. I need some help. With my purchase of the Calamus Font Editor, I have
>discovered that I need more than 6 Accessories. Is there any programs out
>there that will allow you do add more than 6? If the people at ISD had made
>the thing a PROGRAM, it would be a lot easier.
>
Well, I think you can do that via Multidesk. But I believe there is
a shareware DC program (rats, what's the name of it, Mike?) that lets
you have up to like 32 ACC's loaded in, and a commercial version
which lets you have an unlimited supply I believe. It's just what
you seem to need...
Robert Anisko
rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
BTW the shareware version works with MOST ACC's, I've only run into
1 or 2 trouble ACC's that want a regular place in the ACC area...
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Date: 1 Aug 91 14:07:28 GMT
From: sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler@purdue.edu
(David H Butler)
Subject: Help!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Try Chameleon, it only loads one at a time, but lets you dump and load from
desk any single DA you wish at any time, during any program etc... It takes up
one slot, and will automatically load whichever DA is called CONTROL.ACX. So if
you want your control panel to remain in memory all the time, then rename it to
something else. Or, if you never want your control panel but want some other DA
to default to that slot, then rename some other DA to CONTROL.ACX. I renamed
NOTEPAD and now when the system boots up I get my five best DA's in permanent
menus, plus NOTEPAD in the chameleon menu. So when I need another DA (I use
this for Fontedit all the time by the way), I hold down shit-alt, pull down
CHAMELEON (which unloads NOTEPAD), and then load whatever else I want. This
works 100% of the time and has never crashed with any DA I have ever tried.
This is far from true with the other DA-Extension type of programs I have used.
GOOD LUCK
David Butler (High Resolution DTP)
(dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
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Date: 1 Aug 91 15:06:37 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ox.com!emory!gate
ch!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@arizona.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Help!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jul31.045324.18982@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>,
whitehe@cb.ecn.purdue.edu (Drew D Whitehead) writes:
>
>
>Hello. I need some help. With my purchase of the Calamus Font Editor, I have
>discovered that I need more than 6 Accessories. Is there any programs out
>there that will allow you do add more than 6? If the people at ISD had made
>the thing a PROGRAM, it would be a lot easier.
>
>Thanks for your help
>
You want MultiDesk, by the Codeheads. Well worth the price!
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear
FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down
Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ."
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu |
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Date: 1 Aug 91 14:04:45 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@uunet.uu.net
(Mickey Boyd)
Subject: LZH Program
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Jul30.182300.19539@wpi.WPI.EDU>, juemar@wpi.WPI.EDU (Julian
Tyrone Bean) writes:
>Hi,
> What de-archiver do I need to restore .lzh files. I looked in some places,
but was unable to decide which one was needed.
>
>
The nicest (IMHO) is called UNLZH172.ARC. It only extracts files, but it
does it fast and is friendly (I only wish there was a "delete lzh after
extract" option. One really nice feature is that you can automatically
have it create a folder and extract into it. It can be installed as an
application, so a double click on an .lzh file is all that is needed.
--
---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear
FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down
Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ."
email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu |
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Date: 1 Aug 91 11:43:08 GMT
From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: Macintosh Emulators for the TT
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Just curious, have any of the Macintosh emulators (Specre GCR or
Aladin) been ported to the TT? If so, how does it run? If not, when
is it planned?
Thanks folks,
--
Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
Phone: (+33-)61-33-62-66 FAX-1: (+33-)61-33-64-55 FAX-2: (+33-)61-55-35-77
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST. Wishing it was a Mega STe! :-| Do I *really* want a TT? ;
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Date: 1 Aug 91 11:53:21 GMT
From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: Mega STe in UK.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
It seems that Atari France, also, is completely out of stock in Mega
STe's!
--
Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
Phone: (+33-)61-33-62-66 FAX-1: (+33-)61-33-64-55 FAX-2: (+33-)61-55-35-77
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST. Wishing it was a Mega STe! :-| Do I *really* want a TT? ;
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Date: 1 Aug 91 16:38:12 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com!att!att!cbnewsc!cbnewsc!da
ryl@arizona.edu (Daryl L. Monge)
Subject: power conditioning (was Re: BLACKOUTS)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
My paranoia got severe enough that I bought a Tripp power
>>conditioner<<. I am very pleased with the device so far. Here in
Naperville, Il. we are known for crummy power. There are several
versions of their power conditioners. The smallest and cheapest is a
600 watt model, then there is 1200 watt and 1800 watt models.
I went for the 1200 watt model because it will handle low and high
voltage. The 600 watt model will only handle one of them (I forgot
which.) This device not only protects the equipment from surge, etc.
but delivers clean 120V when the input voltage is anywhere from around
80V to 140V.
The cost is somewhere around $150. I believe it a very useful
investment for several thousand dollars worth of equipment.
--
Daryl Monge AT&T Bell Labs
UUCP: att!adept!daryl VOICE: 708-713-4696
PAPER: Rm 2A-448 P.O. Box 3050, Naperville, Il 60566
--
Daryl Monge AT&T Bell Labs
UUCP: att!adept!daryl VOICE: 708-713-4696
PAPER: Rm 2A-448 P.O. Box 3050, Naperville, Il 60566
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Date: 31 Jul 91 21:05:35 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@ariz
ona.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Spectre GCR
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <9107311348.AA02485@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David H Butler) writes:
>
>Also of note (and this is why I posted this when I answered it), I was recently
>playing around with a new formatter TLCformat (I think), when trying to find a
>faster DOS compatible format that would work with Access PC (by the way, none
>of them will, just the standard 9 sector, 80 track, non-twister, non-FAST disk
>format will work with Access PC). When I stuck the 720K FAST format disk
>(faster than Twister but can't use 10 sectors per track) in the drive in Mac
>mode, it read, and came up as A SPECTRE FORMAT DISK (only with 720K, not 800).
>This is pretty exciting. However, it also lost the file I had written to the
>disk in ST mode, and I have not tried it since. It looks like it may be
>possible to get a format that reads in ST and Mac mode without either
>Transverter or Access PC. Has anyone else experienced this?
>
>David Butler
Thanks for your post, David. The more people using Spectre
that use Access PC, the better....I'm hoping that Insignia
and/or Dave Small will somehow get AccessPC to access MSDOS
hard disks via Spectre. I still think it would be great to
use my syquest cartridge with mac and st partitions under
Spectre!
First of all, ye
First of all...yes, AccessPC works with non-gcr Spectre...and
yes, you need Spectre 3.0 software.
Second...I experienced a similar problem with floppies being
read as Spectre formatted disks. I've been using Verbatim ibm
pre-format disks. At first they have been OK, but with a
couple of them, after a while they showed up as Spectre
formatted disks...then they got all messed up and I had to
reformat them again. I think I tried a twister-formatted disk
at one point, although I'm not sure, and it showed up as a
Spectre-formatted disk. When I saw dos and twister disks
showing up differently, I tried to stick to dos-formatted
disks. But now that you mention it, I'll try to play with
other formats and see what happens.
Just so that something may come of it, I'll just mention how
nice it would be to have Access PC access msdos and st hard
disk partitions from Spectre (how do I send Dave Small email
on internet again?)
--Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
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Date: 1 Aug 91 13:56:01 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler@arizona
.edu (David H Butler)
Subject: Spectre GCR
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I would like to know how to contact Dave Small via internet also. If anyone
knows his address could you please post it?
David Butler (High Resolution DTP)
(dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
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Date: 31 Jul 91 23:14:35 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!ubvmsd.cc.buf
falo.edu!v077l5lx@arizona.edu (Guy N Di Piertro)
Subject: TT's and Multisync Monitors
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello,
I am interested in using a multisync monitor with the TT, but I
need to know the horizontal scan rate range that I will need to cover for
all resolutions except TT High. Also any specific information as to how
well specific monitors work with the TT would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Guy
V077L5LX@UBVMS.cc.Buffalo.edu
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Date: 1 Aug 91 11:30:38 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!cuphub!kar7481@arizo
na.edu (DAN KARBOWSKY, 102 LEE DR. ,BELLE VERNON, PA 15012 (412)929-4023)
Subject: US TURBO-C DISTRIBUTOR: (was;Who sells Turbo-C in the US)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <11050@m.maus.de>, Martin_Gaeckler@m.maus.de (Martin Gaeckler)
writes:
> Hello Jim,
>
> Turbo C for the Atari ST/TT is no longer supported by Borland. Borland gave
> up the Atari ST product.
> There will be a new version called >Pure C<. The Distributor is Application
> Systems in Heidelberg, Germany.
>
> Martin Gaeckler
Turbo-C has been licensed to Gribniff Software (i.e; NeoDesk, etc...)
in the U.S. I should know...It ran me $280.00 for the Professional pack
which includes the MAS-68k assembler and Turbo-DEBUGGER* .
I don't have the number, but I believe if you call 617-555-1212 you can get
the number--They're in Hadley, Massachusetts.
* The debugger is the most awesome interactive debugger I have ever seen on
an ST. It reminds me a great deal of a "windowing" VAX-VMS debugger
with "real-time" updating of information in windows.....Also, I've had
at least 12 windows open at the same time and I have TOS 1.2--So I don't
think they're using GEM either.
With TD, you can have the SOURCE, ASSEMBLY, VARIABLES, STACK, etc...
all visible so you can see what your program is doing AS it does it--you
have variable step rates...
--Dan Karbowsky / ".....I remember now....."
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Date: 30 Jul 91 21:46:48 GMT
From: math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!unido!horga!nathan!ue@uunet.uu.net (Udo Erdelhoff)
Subject: Which archiver ? (Was: use unl ...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In <91210.164925ZVM055@DMSWWU1C.BITNET>, U.Kuehn writes:
>Some days ago, I've got lha200 from minnehaha.rhrk.uni-kl.de; its an lharc
Hmm, seems you have some trouble in getting new software. I'm using the
LHa 2.00 for about a month, the current version is 2.01b. I'll post it
to comp.binaries.atari.st, if I manage to find that printout of "Welcome to
comp.sys.atari.st" here in this chaos named flat. ;-)
/s/
--
Udo Erdelhoff ue@nathan.ruhr.de Fido: Udo Erdelhoff on 2:245/52.1
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Date: 1 Aug 91 13:10:59 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!crackers!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!juemar@arizon
a.edu (Julian Tyrone Bean)
Subject: Which is the best mac emulator
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
Could someone please e-mail me some info on mac emulators, ie which
one(s) are the best and which one I should look at, prices if knows and
potential pitfalls.
Thank you
Julian
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Date: 1 Aug 91 14:44:50 GMT
From: noao!ncar!gatech!utkcs2!hydra2a.cs.utk.edu!gathings@arizona.edu (Golando
Gathings)
Subject: why do I only get 512k on a 1040
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
A friend of mine has an 1040 st that only show 512k out
of 1040k when he runs the ram test. Any ideas, other
than the possibility of having bad ram chips ?
Golando
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