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Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 28 Aug 91 Volume 91 : Issue 455
Today's Topics:
**** KALAMUS INFO ***********
accelerator boards
ARC.PRG source for UNIX
Atari 1040STFM FOR SALE
Bob Pegrem Please Send Address
Dungeon Master Maps
E-mail addresses-how to enter
Falcon Disks
GEMDOS and AES questions
GNUEmacs and modem
Gulam problems [was Re: long input lines under Gulam]
Humorous MIDI problem
I still love my ST
LDW Power, Any Users?
Need good termcap for Atari ST and Interlink term program
Official weird thing: wandering menu bar
Purdue Atari Users Group --- Callout
Railroad Tycoon (2 msgs)
SNG file format
TeX -- uhhg!
YG modem
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Date: 27 Aug 91 13:38:05 GMT
From: noao!ncar!news.miami.edu!umiami!mmilicevic@arizona.edu
Subject: **** KALAMUS INFO ***********
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi There,
Does anyone know about the program KALAMUS. Give me some info please.
Price, oppinions...
Thanks, MLADEN
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Date: 28 Aug 91 14:20:50 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!
bucsf.bu.edu!selick@arizona.edu (Steven Selick)
Subject: accelerator boards
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Does anybody know if the accelerator boards in the previous article
support the 1040 STE? Will they create any compatibility problems? Tos
1.06?
<selick@bucsf.bu.edu>
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Date: 28 Aug 91 10:33:11 GMT
From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!bernina!iis.ethz.ch!kiwi@uunet.uu.net (Rene Mueller)
Subject: ARC.PRG source for UNIX
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
salue ataris,
i have some interesting sources in arc format on my UNIX computer,
how can i extract files, without going on little atari-st ?
,
bye rene
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Date: 29 Aug 91 01:20:28 GMT
From: ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!news@rutgers.rutgers.edu (----* Ho Ling Cherd
*----)
Subject: Atari 1040STFM FOR SALE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have the following for sale:
Atari 1040 STfm
- CPU /w keyboard
- 1 MG RAM
- built in 720K 3.5" floppy disk drive
- Mouse
- RS232C port
- MIDI port
- catridge 128K ROM port
- DMA hard drive port
- 2nd disk drive port
- RF port - for hooking up to color TV or VCR
--- $300 or best offer
Atari Sc1224 (GoldStar) RGB Color Monitor
--- best offer with the 1040 Stfm
Back Pack - utilities in catridge --- best offer
Procopy ST (copying software) --- $5.00 obo
ST-Talk (communication) --- $7.00 obo
Haba Check Minder (checking account reminder) --- $7.00 obo
Print Master Plus (graphics utility ) --- $10.00 obo)
Gnictron Football (Football Game) --- $7.00 obo
Space Shuttle (Game) --- $7.00 obo
Defender of the Crown (Game) --- $10.00 obo
Tanglewood (Game) --- $3.00 not working with TOS 1.0 and 1.6
The Darkness Rises (Game) --- $10.00 obo
Fast (ST Dos and other utilties) --- $7.00 obo
Dungeon Master (Game) --- $5.00 no manual but with maps and hints
Falcon (Game) --- $15.00 obo
Epstart (Macintosh Epson printer driver for Spectre ) --- $30 obo
VIP professional (Spreadsheet - Lotus 123 clone) --- $25.00 no manual
and
2 atari joysticks --- $5.00 each
dusk cover for 1040STFM free with the STFM
Box of 10 DIsk with PD and Sharewares free with the STFM
or $480 (obo) for the whole package
Buyer pay shippings.
Please e-mail to lchd_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Thanks.
..
Ling Cherd
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Date: 28 Aug 91 15:11:00 GMT
From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tekgen!boblu@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Robert Luneski)
Subject: Bob Pegrem Please Send Address
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. Would Bob Pegrem please send me your
e-mail address. I accidently overwrote your letter with the response.
____ ____
/\/\/\ Bob Luneski Diamond Back II Support: boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM /\/\/\
\/\/\/ Oregon Research Associates Genie: B.LUNESKI1 \/\/\/
\/\/ 16200 S.W. Pacific Hwy., Suite 162 Phone: (503) 620-4919 \/\/
\/ Tigard, OR 97224 FAX: (503) 639-6182 \/
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Date: 28 Aug 91 20:49:43 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia
.edu!emory!att!cbnewse!moroni@arizona.edu (alfredo.c.issa)
Subject: Dungeon Master Maps
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi:
I am looking for good and complete maps for
the game "Dungeon Master" that came out a couple
of years ago for the ST.
Can anyone tell me where I can obtain a copy?
Thanks,
Al Issa
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, Illinois USA
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 91 10:05:12 ADT
From: Alyre CHIASSON <CHIASSA%UDEM@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca>
Subject: E-mail addresses-how to enter
To: N <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
Every once in a while I see a question in the digests that
I feel I could respond to but the return address header often
stretches across my screen and sometimes wraps down a line.
Do I have to enter all of this in the destination request
of my mailer(we use the HP mailer)? For certain lengths
it says the address is too long. How do other people handle this?
.
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Date: 23 Aug 91 17:04:49 GMT
From: nic.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid)
Subject: Falcon Disks
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hello fellow Falcon players,
I'm looking to buy some of those extra flight scenarios. Anyone have
any that they want to sell. If so please send me E-mail, I don't have a local
dealer ( one is about 2 hours away ).
Stephan
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Date: 28 Aug 91 10:34:23 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!alchemy!avgroeni@uunet.uu.net (Annius Groenink)
Subject: GEMDOS and AES questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I'm writing a desk accessory(*) text editor. It's going to look very
nice, but I still have some (minor) questions which I'd like to
solve. The program will probably be shareware, but anyone who can
give a satisfactory reply to one of the following questions will
get free use and full update service!
(*) it can run as an application, too.
1. It seems to me that all OTHER text editors load files about
twice as fast as my program. I use one straight Fread(). Do
other programs use a special load procedure (and what about
GEMDOS Pexec()? ) ?
2. Does the ATARI AES send ANY WM_NEWTOP messages? I never seem to
get one, while I'm in desperate need of them.
My desktop editor has a smooth (X-like) scroll bar, in
stead of the usual window attributes. So, the scroll bar and
the sizer box are really objects WITHIN the working area
of the window, and I have to take care MYSELF of hiding the
object trees of the slider and sizer when the window is not
active. I suppose, when someone else opens a window, or has
topped one, I should get a WM_NEWTOP message from SCRENMGR.
(My solution: use a timer event to do a wind_get(WF_TOP)
about four times a second.)
Thanks in advance for any hints,
--
________________________________________________________
Annius Groenink|undergraduate student
Laan van Borgele 24|maths/computer science at the
7415 DJ Deventer|University of Utrecht, Holland.
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Date: 27 Aug 91 00:40:11 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia
.edu!iraun1.ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!altger!doitcr!salyko!salyko.doit.sub.org@a
rizona.edu (Thomas Knauer)
Subject: GNUEmacs and modem
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
after asking this question on GEnie and CIS in vain, it's my last
try to get some help from you out there:
I recently installed GNUEmacs 18.55 on my Mega-2.
All is running fine, except the probems with the serial port.
My main goal is the installation of an IRC-Client to call my university
from home with my ATARI.
The problem is, that my modem (2400 Baud) won't get any signals from
Emacs, neither with the enclosed Terminal-emulator, nor the server-file,
nor the telnet-file and nore the IRC-client.
I am sure that there occurs a problem in the config-file, but I don't
have any ideas.
Perhaps there's somebody out there to fix my problem ??!!??
Any hint would be appreciated !
Thanks,
Thomas
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Date: 28 Aug 91 08:43:06 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!alchemy!piet@uunet.uu.net (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Gulam problems [was Re: long input lines under Gulam]
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
>>>>> healy@cod.NOSC.MIL (Mike Healy) (MH) writes:
MH> This may be a FAQ, but, how do I get gulam to use a real more instead
MH> of emacs, or what in my configuration file is causing gulam to use
MH> emacs for more?
alias more c:\bin\less.ttp :=)
--
Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University,
Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands.
Telephone: +31 30 531806 Uucp: uunet!mcsun!ruuinf!piet
Telefax: +31 30 513791 Internet: piet@cs.ruu.nl (*`Pete')
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Date: 28 Aug 91 18:59:54 GMT
From: ljtoth@athena.mit.edu (Louis J Toth)
Subject: Humorous MIDI problem
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Are there any Atari hardware gurus out there with insight into the following
problem?
I recently acquired an old Atari 1040ST, and attempted to use it to control a
MIDI keyboard (Roland alpha-Juno 2). When making the final midi connection (to
MIDI out on the keyboard) the computer's monitor (Atari monochrome) literally
blew up! Power was on at the time to the Atari, which continued to merrily
copy a disk throughout the incident, (yes, the manuals always warn you about
plugging things in with the power on, I know,) but power was off to the
keyboard. It really is beyond me what could have
caused the Atari to output a disastrous monitor signal, but not affect the
computer in any other noticeable way.
My copy of T-Basic, (newest version bought from Dr. T. himself two weeks ago)
will be for sale shortly, if the problem turns out to be something expensive.
Please e-mail me if you're interested.
- Louis
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Date: 28 Aug 91 19:10:30 GMT
From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!know!daemon@arizona.edu
Subject: I still love my ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Very often, someone on the net discusses upgrading his/her system and toys
with the idea of going to a Mac or a PC.
One local ST user, whose son is 14, wants to get his son a 'serious'
machine now that he has 'outgrown' the ST. He said he was going to go to a
PC because, as he stated, "its's a PC world out there".
First of all, kids in high school are going to use a micro for (i)
programming, (ii) wordprocessing, (iii) spread sheets and then MAYBE (iv)
database work, (v) drawing and CAD, (vi) DTP, and (vii) music. While the ST
does not have software as sophisticated as the PC or MAC, for the level
that high school students work, the ST can perform quite well for
programming (C, PASCAL, MODULA), wordprocessing (WordPlus, WordPerfect,
Signum,...) and spreadsheets (LDW). Database work can be done with dbMAN,
although it lacks the ease of use of dBASE. The ST also has some great
drawing and CAD packages and does extremely well at DTP and music
applications.
My opinion is that the user's kid will use his new '386 super VGA system to
(i) play games and (ii) run pirated software. PC users are the biggest
pirates going. They steal WINDOWS, Word, EXCEL, Harvard Graphics, NORTON,
etc from the work place and pass it around. Who do you know that has a PC
with 'hot' copies of 123, dBASE, EXCEL,.....
I support the ST because I can afford programs like Pagestream, Calamus,
Signum, WordPlus, LDW, Tiger, TigerCUB, EasyDraw, BeckerCAD. I have a Mega
2 with an SLM605 that blows away PCs connected to HP laserjets (even those
with PostScript cartridges) and I did it at a fraction of the cost and with
legitimate copies of software.
Sure, fast '386s and '486s are great in the business environment where all
the software can be purchased. However, for home use, the PC user typically
steals the software. I still love my ST because I don't feel like a crook!.
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 91 13:46 EDT
From: JOHNBARNES@ENH.NIST.GOV
Subject: LDW Power, Any Users?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Yes, Joe, I use LDW Power. It is far and away the best spread sheet for the
ST line. It is fast and has a reasonably good feel to it. It is Lotus
compatible, as well as being compatible with some older ST spreadsheets.
I am told that LDW has upgraded the product so that it will behave with
big screen drivers.
Feel free to query me further via Internet mail if you have any other
questions.
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Date: 28 Aug 91 14:17:33 GMT
From: mtu.edu!mjo@uunet.uu.net (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Need good termcap for Atari ST and Interlink term program
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Mike O'Connor | "I need a vacation."
NIC Database: MJO17 |
Internet: mjo@mtu.edu | -The Terminator
UUCP: ...!ttardis!mjo |
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Date: 28 Aug 91 19:25:31 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.n
wu.edu!ucsd!sdcc6!sdcc13!bboychuk@arizona.edu (The Majestic Llama)
Subject: Official weird thing: wandering menu bar
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <22924@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> I write:
>In a program I'm working on, after a re-compile, the menu bar
>decided that it wanted to stop appearing at the top of the screen
>and is now showing up about three text lines down and half a dozen
>spaces over from the left. I've tried everything I can think of,
>including re-compiling all the source files and sorting everything I
>can get at in the resource editor. Anybody ever have this happen
>before? Any solutions?
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>bboychuk@ucsd.edu "My GOD, did you see the power and majesty radiated b
> that llama?" "Well, of course I did, you fool..."
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I seem to have half-solved my problem. By forcing the X,Y of the
GEM object to 0,0, the menu bar now appears in the right place --
but I still have no idea why it's coming in from the .RSC file with
goofy coordinates... Apparently, the resource is screwed up and
I'm afraid that this is just a small part of a larger problem that's
going to jump out later and eat me. Anybody know how to correct
this?
(Warwick: I tried to reply to your E-mail, but it bounced.
Thanks for your suggestion about the screen memory being offset, but
everything else (plines, dialogs) all draw correctly. The problem
appears to be in the resource file...)
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bboychuk@ucsd.edu "My GOD, did you see the power and majesty radiated by
that llama?" "Well, of course I did, you fool..."
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Date: 28 Aug 91 20:11:23 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ec
n.purdue.edu!cb.ecn.purdue.edu!whitehe@arizona.edu (Drew D Whitehead)
Subject: Purdue Atari Users Group --- Callout
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Attention! The Purdue Atari Users Group Callout will be held Saturday August
31, 1991 in Stewart Center Room #320 at 1:00. Please attend if you are in this
local area and are interested in joining an Atari users group.
Drew Whitehead
President, PAUG
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Date: 28 Aug 91 16:21:20 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!aunro!apss!ersys!ggranger@arizona.edu
(Greg Granger)
Subject: Railroad Tycoon
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) writes:
> I've seen two references to Microprose's Railroad Tycoon being ported to the
> ST. Railroad Tycoon is a sensational simulation; can anyone confirm or refut
> whether this port is actually taking place?
> --
> ############################################################################
> # Bill Sheppard -- bills@microware.com -- {uunet,sun}!mcrware!mwca!bill
> # Microware Systems Corporation -- OS-9 / OS-9000 / CD-RTOS -- (408)980-0201
> ############# Opinions expressed are my own and usually wrong ##############
I have been reading in ST Action magazine (out of the UK) that Railroad
Tycoon is currently being ported to the ST. I can hardly wait!
Greg Granger
< InterNet: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca > "Gimme the strongest
< FoReMNet: Greg Granger @ 532 or Dark Knight @ 595 > thing you've got."
< Mail Adr: 5906-188 St. Edmonton, AB Canada T6M-2A9 >
< Phone : +1 403 481-0803 or +1 403 481-5110 > - Lt. Frank Drebin
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Date: 28 Aug 91 21:43:28 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!lynx!hydra.unm.edu!
seattle@arizona.edu (David G. Adams)
Subject: Railroad Tycoon
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <0XDe81w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Greg Granger) writes:
>bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) writes:
]
]> I've seen two references to Microprose's Railroad Tycoon being ported to the
]> ST. Railroad Tycoon is a sensational simulation; can anyone confirm or refut
]> whether this port is actually taking place?
]
]I have been reading in ST Action magazine (out of the UK) that Railroad
]Tycoon is currently being ported to the ST. I can hardly wait!
]
]Greg Granger
]
I've ordered the program from Sideline Software. They said it'd be coming
in this week from the UK.
Dave
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Date: 28 Aug 91 11:06:02 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!opal!gmdtub!prosun!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph Berg)
Subject: SNG file format
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi Folks,
is there anybody, who knows about the structure of *.sng Files as
used in midifiles.arc at atari.archive ???
Are there any conversion programs from these *.sng to the Steinberg 24
program?
Does anybody known, how to playback the *.sng files from atari archive?
Thanks in advance
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Ralph Berg
D-1000 Berlin West Germany during day 030/25499151
German National Research Center for Computer Science, FIRST
ralph@prosun.first.gmd.de
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Date: 29 Aug 91 00:18:17 GMT
From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!apple!netcomsv!yonder@arizona.edu
(Christopher Russell)
Subject: TeX -- uhhg!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Well, I spent several days upgrading my ST to 2.5M so I could run some
more software.. Especially would like to get TeX running. Well, after
several days, I've managed to create *.dvi files, but I haven't got
any of the dvi2* programs working. Basically because I am hoping that
I can get the fonts directory setup with 99e99 hours of work!! I have
got the dvifnts1.zoo and dvifnts2.zoo files from atari.archive, which
have the directories already setup. Unfortuantely, it doesn't seem to
want to build the directories correctly. In the readme file, it says
to do zoo -x// dvifnt?.zoo. Hmm.. -x isn't valid for zoo! And what
are those slashes all about? What version of zoo is this?
What dvi screen viewer is the best? It looks like maybe the 3.3
viewer is.. I don't quite understand what all the "server" stuff is
about though -- maybe somebody could fill in a neophyte TeX user.
I would be a very happy guy if somebody would send me a ls -lR of
there TeX setup! And explain to me how to build the fonts directories
from those zoo archives! ...thanks in advance...
--
Christopher L. Russell (yonderboy) Phone: (408)378-9078 Campbell,CA
yonder@netcom.COM or clr40@amail.amdahl.com or chrisr@leland.stanford.edu
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Date: 28 Aug 91 06:35:23 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!atha!aunro!ersys!mforget@arizona.edu
(Michel Forget)
Subject: YG modem
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes:
> Your Zmodem problem is probably easily fixed. Timeouts during uploads
> but not during downloads almost always indicate a disparity between
> what the modem thinks the flow control is set to and what the terminal
> program thinks the flow control is set to. Make sure your terminal
> program is not doing flow control of its own. Try setting flow control
> to OFF and see if your uploads work without hanging.
>
> I had the same problem with my 9600 baud modem; getting the parameters
> right fixed the problem. I highly recommend the ports of sz and rz for
> the ST. I believe they were done by Bammi, but please correct me if
> I'm wrong. In any case, I've found them to be more robust that xyz.ttp
> and easier for batch transfers. Works like a charm!
>
> Dave Baggett
> dmb@wam.umd.edu
I am using the newer ports of RZ and SZ by Roy Bixler. They have
functioned flawlessly right up until I got my new modem. My terminal
program is Interlink, or DTerm, and I have both set to use Flow control.
DTerm isn't too specific about flow control (either it is on or off) but
Interlink is set to RTS/CTS. I'll try your suggestion and see what
happens, but then what do I do when I am online? A buffer overflow
doesn't look pretty, and always changing the flow control might be a
pain. I could have the modem use Xon/Xoff, perhaps?
Thanks for the information.
<< ---------------------------------- >>
<< ersys!mforget@nro.cs.athabascau.ca >>
<< mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca >>
<< Michel Forget >>
<< "He's dead, Jim..." - Bones >>
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