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Info-Atari16 Digest Fri, 16 Aug 91 Volume 91 : Issue 438
Today's Topics:
.gem to .img conversion question
.gem to .img conversion question (other ways)
> Using the ST with a Deskjet
Are there any PD resource
Atari CD-ROM?
Atari Show - how much?
Atari ST monochrome monitor
BinHex on platforms other than mac???
Can't reach "twitterpatter.eng.sun.com" et al.
Great *IDEA*...
Hard Disk Sentry (Was: Re: Clearing space on a hard disk
help with new laserjet...
mac-fonts for st
Official Bug Report for The Vault
ORIGAMI folding editor - what is it ?
Puting a pixel to screen
Snowball -- great little program.
SOLD: ComputerEyes & StereoTek glasses
Unix for TT ???
Using the ST with a Deskjet
Version
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Date: 13 Aug 91 05:48:36 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wupost!emory!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!grasp1!frmu
g!elrond@arizona.edu (Bertrand Petit)
Subject: .gem to .img conversion question
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Aug7.203717.6382@cs.yale.edu>, fischer-michael@CS.YALE.EDU
(Michael Fischer) writes:
>
> Does anyone know of a program to convert .gem files (produced by
> Easydraw) to .img files (which can be included in a TeX document
> using dviprint from the "showdvi" package)?
>
You can easiy do this with the Arabesque art package. Just load the
GEM file in the vector area then transfer it to the raster section with the
apropriate icon. Then go you can save the raster image in IMG format.
--
| Bertrand Petit | Signature is under construction |
| alias | |
| >Elrond le demi-Elfe< | Be sure to wear your helmet |
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Date: 13 Aug 91 05:51:49 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ukma!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.
de!math.fu-berlin.de!grasp1!frmug!elrond@arizona.edu (Bertrand Petit)
Subject: .gem to .img conversion question (other ways)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Aug7.215516.13773@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu
(Timothy Gallivan) writes:
>
> The nice thing about this method is that the graphic resolution is
> limited only by the printer (300dpi for a deskjet). Isn't an .img file
> limited to the ST screen resolution (80dpi)? Also, once you have the
> image in postscript form, you can scale it, rotate it, twist it, stretch
> it, etc., without loosing resolution or introducing graininess (is this
> a word?).
>
Not at all. You can create img files with any resolution. I use
a scanner with the Calamus DTP package and I import 300dpi IMG files in
Calamus without anytrouble.
--
| Bertrand Petit | Signature is under construction |
| alias | |
| >Elrond le demi-Elfe< | Be sure to wear your helmet |
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Date: 14 Aug 91 08:10:06 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!rzsun2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de!rospc1!hess@uunet.uu.net
(Hauke Hess)
Subject: > Using the ST with a Deskjet
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi,
in germany, anyone who has enough money for a 24pin printer and not enough
for a laser is called pretty silly, if he NOT buys a deskjet. There are drivers
for all programms I know, including GDOS, 1ST Word, Script, TeX (wonderfull
X-Jet, print out a page in 50secs and is able to print to a5 pages side by
side on a a4 sheet of paper), Hardcopy routines, utilities which switch the
fonts, margins and other modes of the Deskjet as ACC. You allways can take
the laserjet driver for a program as the deskjet driver (this enables calamus
and other programs to work with the DJ). For the Spectre, just get the
PD Deskjet driver from any macintosh archive. It`s slow (like any parallel
printer at the spectre and at the original mac, the "real" porinters use
apple talk like the deskwriter) but very beautifull. With the TypeAlign init
or ATM, you can forget about the laserwriter, with the right paper it`s just
as good.
So forget about other printers and get a deskjet. Don`t forget NOT to buy
any ink cartridges until your original one refuses to be refilled with
ordinary ink. For that use a injection needle to refill the cartridge through
the little air hole an top of the green "arrow" with ca. 10ml black ink
(Parker black is beautifull). I printed 1000 pages of TeX output without
a new cartridge and refilled the old one 5 times till today.
Note: I`m not working at HP, and I have not the slightest idea of an advantage
if YOU buy a deskjet.
Hauke
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Date: 12 Aug 91 16:47:00 GMT
From:
math.fu-berlin.de!fub!dobag.in-berlin.de!nicedel!artcom0!hb.maus.de!hh.maus.de!
Laurenz_Pruessner@uunet.uu.net (Laurenz Pruessner)
Subject: Are there any PD resource
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Ken Badertscher kbad @ atari.UUCP wrote:
>jan@janhh.hanse.de (Jan Willamowius) writes:
>
>|I've always used the Atari RCS 1.4 [...] I prefer it, inspite of some
>|shortcomings, over Atari's RCS 2.0.
>
>Hmmm, what are the differences? The current RCS version that I use is
>2.8. I'm curious why you would prefer an outdated (and buggy) version.
To me this message means that Atari is still supporting the DRI-RCS.
So does this mean that Atari is still maintaining the DRI-RCS-sources and
will perhaps someday manage to write an RCS that allows entering extended
object types? The current version shipped by Atari Germany is, despite
many bug reports, still buggy in this point.
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Date: 12 Aug 91 20:35:35 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!olivea!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic
!sics.se!ifi.uio.no!nuug!ugle.unit.no!lise.unit.no!stigvi@arizona.edu (Stig
Vidar Hovland)
Subject: Atari CD-ROM?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <2521@tharr.UUCP>, steveh@tharr.UUCP (Steve Hebditch) writes:
|> In article <3579@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:
|> >The new Luser hasn't changed much. It's still as gaudy and as game
orientated
|> >as ever. Maybe it is the best ST mag in the UK but it's still crap.
|> >
|> >When will ST User get their finger out?
|>
|> That isn't the new ST User. The completely revamped version will be
|> appearing next month with a definite promise from the editor of much
|> more of ST World type coverage merged in with games relegated to the
|> supplement.
|>
|> We shall wait and see...
|>
|> --
|> <steveh%tharr.uucp@ukc.ac.uk> <...ukc!axion!tharr!steveh>
|> <Free Usenet in the UK from Tharr: 0234 841503>
I have seen it. It is still a gamers magazine. Save your money or by some german
magazines instead.
Stig Vidar Hovland - stigvi@lise.unit.no
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Date: 14 Aug 91 15:31:07 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham Thomas)
Subject: Atari Show - how much?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
From article <9108130959.aa23637@castle.ed.ac.uk>, by
eang62@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk (Herbert Sauro):
>
> One other question, why does a TT cost almost as much as a decent Mac
> in the UK while in Germany its almost a 1000 pounds cheaper?
My guess is that Atari Germany expect to sell machines to real users.
Atari UK, on the other hand, expect to sell TTs only to a few developers
who can be considered more or less a captive market. It's not worth
Atari UK's while to shave their margins. They're not going to give the
TT decent marketing support anyway, so why bother.
Sorry to be so cynical. Yes, I do know that Atari UK show the TT as one
of the range of machines in their current ads in magazines like ST
Format and ST User. The picture shows a man in a business suit sitting
in front of a TT running Hyperchart. I would be surprised if the number
of ST Format/User readers who fit into that sort of category reaches
double figures.
Graham
--
Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK
Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: +44 273 685865
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Date: 13 Aug 91 22:26:08 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.p
itt.edu!rjast1@arizona.edu (Robert J Anisko)
Subject: Atari ST monochrome monitor
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
If anyone has an Atari ST monochrome monitor for sale (used), please
leave me email. Thanks...
Robert Anisko
rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
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Date: 13 Aug 91 05:44:05 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!emory!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!grasp1!frmug!el
rond@arizona.edu (Bertrand Petit)
Subject: BinHex on platforms other than mac???
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <8859@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu ( EVENSONG)
writes:
>
> Subject gives the idea. I was wondering if there are any programs
> floating around for undoing macintosh BinHex files on other than a mac?
> I have a 1040 STe (Atari) and would like to be able to un-binhex some
> sound files that I got off of news
I have a set of sources to cope with willy mac archives but i don't
have the time to port them to TOS.
--
| Bertrand Petit | Signature is under construction |
| alias | |
| >Elrond le demi-Elfe< | Be sure to wear your helmet |
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Date: 14 Aug 91 15:48:49 GMT
From: lll-winken!aunro!ersys!ggranger@uunet.uu.net (Greg Granger)
Subject: Can't reach "twitterpatter.eng.sun.com" et al.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I have been trying to request a file from one of the Atari file servers
in England (twitterpatter.eng.sun.com), but everytime I try I seem to get
a "service unavailable" message. Why is this? BTW, the file I have been
trying to request is "trakst2" (the newest version of the Esion XLI
tracker for the ST) from the "volume15" directory. If anybody can help
me in getting this file, please leave me E-mail.
One last thing, I am looking for a genealogy (sp!) (ie. family tree)
program for the ST (not STe/TT). If anybody knows of such a program,
please leave me E-mail.
Greg Granger
< InterNet: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca > "Gimme the strongest
< FoReMNet: Greg Granger @ 532 or Dark Knight @ 595 > thing you've got."
< Mail Adr: 5906-188 St. Edmonton, AB Canada T6M-2A9 >
< Phone : +1 403 481-0803 or +1 403 481-5110 > - Lt. Frank Drebin
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Date: 14 Aug 91 12:24:07 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!tuegate.tue.nl!rwa.urc.tue.nl!wmtwen@uunet.uu.net (Erlend
Nagel)
Subject: Great *IDEA*...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
And now for something completely different.
Put an end to the dominance of IBM and Apple.
Put an end to the irritating articles from frustrated Amiga users.
The solution to these problems we all experience might be invented by
me.
Atari and Commodore should become one big company that makes
interesting computers and software.
They both have a line of Motorola 680x0 based computers and they both
run a lot of the same software. It would be better if software did not
have to be ported to two computers. If e.g. an Atari ST and an Amiga
2000 both run Minix they can even exchange binaries. Also Atari and
Commodore have for some part a common history (the Tramiel boys etc.).
They started their line of homecomputers both with 8-bit 65xx machines.
And it would bring down costs for development of new computers and the
costs for the purchasing of new technology.
It seems to me that these should be enough reasons for implementation
of my idea.
Lets hear your flames...
P.S. sorry but i do not regularly post so no .signature...
Greetings from Erlend 'Error' Nagel
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Date: 14 Aug 91 15:38:42 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!roda
n.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@arizona.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Hard Disk Sentry (Was: Re: Clearing space on a hard disk
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <5749@syma.sussex.ac.uk> grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas)
writes:
>
>I still haven't seen a friendly, reliable defragmenter for the ST. I've
>used DLII a couple of times with no problems, but you have to make sure
>there are no lost or crosslinked clusters on the disk, and no
>zero-length files. Also, I wouldn't trust it with any partition greater
>Graham
Graham...I use Hard Disk Sentry from Beckemeyer Development
Tools. Nothing fancy, but it seems to work well. What I
really like about it is that it handles msdos-boot
partitions...something that saved my skin many times! (David
has even made a version for MSDOS5, which uses different boot
files from the previous versions.)
--Gerry
PS...Thanks to everyone who replied (both to me and the net)
about clearing my hard disk. Everything has been taken care
of.
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Date: 13 Aug 91 22:01:34 GMT
From: ogicse!milton!raven.alaska.edu!acad2.alaska.edu!asedm@uunet.uu.net
Subject: help with new laserjet...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just got a new HP Laserjet II, and I was wondering about a few
things: is there a TSR print-screen driver?
how about a font loader, or utils to convert GDOS <-> LJ fonts?
also, which TeX should I get?
thanks in advance!
Ed Miller (asedm@acad2.alaska.edu)
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Date: 14 Aug 91 12:41:19 GMT
From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!bernina!iis.ethz.ch!kiwi@uunet.uu.net (Rene Mueller)
Subject: mac-fonts for st
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
salue atari-hackers,
i search the original mac-font in gem- or signum-font format.
can you help with a ftp address or other informations ?
bye rene
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Date: 14 Aug 91 13:21:13 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!fisch
er-robert@arizona.edu (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Official Bug Report for The Vault
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
A couple of bugs in The Vault 3.01 have come to my attention:
* The Vault tends to crash on deeply nested directory trees. This is
a very serious bug, and will be fixed in the next release.
* When running on TOS 1.2, The Vault displays an alert box saying
"Illegal Function Number" upon startup. It is making an AES call
which wasn't added to TOS until TOS 1.4. This is not a serious bug,
and The Vault functions just fine in spite of the illegal function
call at the beginning.
Thank you to the people who have found these problems.
--- Bob
fischer-robert@cs.yale.edu
--
fischer-robert@cs.yale.edu (Bob Fischer)
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Date: 14 Aug 91 10:52:25 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!urmel!tabaqui!michaels@uunet.uu.net (Michael Schwingen)
Subject: ORIGAMI folding editor - what is it ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
The Origami folding editor (version 1.6) has just been posted to
comp.binaries.atari.st. As I got some requests about what the Origami
folding editor IS, I am posting summary of Michael Haard's posting in
comp.os.minix which explains the principles of folding editors and
ORIGAMI:
Most people probably do not know folding (outline) editors. A short
example should be able to explain the principle. Imagine that you just
started Origami with a folded program:
.. Notes
.. #includes
.. #defines
.. type definitions
.. variable declarations
.. main function
The structure is obvious, although you see no code! The program is well
documented, altough there are no comments! Each line with three heading
dots is a closed fold. A curious user probably wants to know what the
program does. He moves the cursor to the Notes fold, opens it and finds:
{{{ Notes
/*
example.c - a small example
This program does not really exist, it is just an example.
*/
}}}
.. #includes
.. #defines
.. type definitions
.. variable declarations
.. main function
Ok, let's close the fold, there is no use to look at it any longer.
The next step may be to open the main function fold:
.. Notes
.. #includes
.. #defines
.. type definitions
.. variable declarations
{{{ main function
main(argc,argv) int argc; char **argv;
{
... variable declarations
... parse command switches
... parse file arguments
... open file if any or use stdin
... process input
... close file if any
}
}}}
This example may serve as a first introduction. You may wonder what the
C compiler says about the ... lines. It says nothing, because they are
put in comments. Origami knows comments for a lot of things and the
beginning and the end can be user specified, too. The advantages are
obvious: Folding supports structured programming, because program structures
are editing structures. Comments are part of the program, not bothering
stuff. A fold can be also another file, which means that you only need one
file for managing a project, which contains file-folds for all directories
and files. This supports a modular structure with many files, but you do
not need typing their names to edit them.
Origami is no syntax-oriented editor, it's your choice to use folds more or
less. It is my favourite editor for documents, none of the $%&!@# DOS
textprocessors has such a nice editor! An example:
.. online manual page
.. user guide
.. changes to old version
.. copyright
If entering (not opening, see above example) the user guide:
.. title page
.. introduction
.. installation
.. using it
.. utility programs
.. all functions
.. acknowledges
Each chapter is in a fold, which may contain folds for subchapters etc.
There is nothing like scrolling a few dozen pages if you want to edit a
paragraph. Select a few folds and that's it. This helps to structure a
document to improve readability. Origami, MROFF and a few minor
utilities build a powerful text system, one of the first MINIX
application programs.
There are other features: Origami is able to edit TDS files without a
transputer! This is the reason why there is a MultiTool-like keybinding
for Sun workstations. Origami looks like Emacs and has some of its
features (Think of emacs as an adjective). All commands can be bound to
keys (including cursor keys etc) and there is a powerful and fast macro
language. There is incremental search, fill-paragraph and auto-save.
No buffers, but you will not miss them after using folds for a week.
Origami runs on MINIX PC, SunOs 4.1.1 (not 4.0!) and TOS.
You can get Origami from this european ftp-archive
Name: ftp.thp.uni-koeln.de [134.95.64.1]
Path: minix/commands/editors
File: origami.tar.Z, misslib.tar.Z
Name: ftp.uni-koeln.de [134.95.80.1]
Path: /thp/minix/commands/editors
File: origami.tar.Z, misslib.tar.Z
The files on the servers are 13-bit compressed tape archives. (I use
freeze to compress things for personal use, but I do not want to start a
flame war.) The posting is a uuencoded splitted copy of the files on the
server. Full documentation is included.
Feel free to contact me if there are any problems. Atari problems will
be forwarded to the guy who ported Origami.
If you send me mail, please send it to mhaardt@ftp.thp.uni-koeln.de
There are hundreds of reasons to do so ... but don't ask. If you make
patches, please *post* cdiffs.
Michael Haardt (mhaardt@ftp.thp.uni-koeln.de)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The binaries and diffs for the minix sources are available for anonymous
ftp at minnehaha.rhrk.uni-kl.de in /pub/atari/editor/origami. I will
try to upload them to atari.archive.
At the moment, this is the same as the version which has just been
posted - but as soon as there are bug fixes, the next version will show
up on that machine, first.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Schwingen, Ahornstrasse 36, W-5100 Aachen, Germany
michaels@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
PLEASE KEEP MAIL FROM OUTSIDE GERMANY SHORT-I HAVE TO PAY FOR INCOMING MAIL
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Date: 14 Aug 91 10:00:36 GMT
From: math.fu-berlin.de!opal!ki@uunet.uu.net (Karsten Isakovic)
Subject: Puting a pixel to screen
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Aug13.121840.16027@convex.com> rosenkra@convex.com (William
Rosenkranz) writes:
>is the screen memory mapped into high addresses (like $fxxxxx)?
>can't the driver translate this for the xbios? it sounds like any
>program calling Physbase won't run on big screen monitors.
Some of the drivers for big screen monitors do this, but they only map the
Logbase() call. I know at least 1 driver that does not map Physbase().
The most drivers map the Setscreen() call, because you normaly can't
change the physical screen-adress. An official test if Setscreen() works
is to call Physbase(),Logbase() and save the values. Then call Setscreen()
with your second screen... If Physbase() and Logbase() didn't change, it is
not possible to change the screen adress. You have to use vro_cpyfm to
toggle between differnt screens.
>the method i posted, however DOES work on "normal" STs. and i think it
>might work on at least some configuration of TT, tho i have no way of
>verifying this.
Your method works in ST-High modus on the TT, not in TT-High (because
BytesPerLine is different...).
>-bill
Greetings, Karsten
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Date: 14 Aug 91 05:12:24 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!usc!apple!netcomsv!bryanw@arizona.edu
(Bryan Woodworth)
Subject: Snowball -- great little program.
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I encourage you all to check out Snowball. It's a wonderful little program
that really is a whole lot of fun! Thanks for the this quality ware,
guys.
--
Bryan Woodworth Mail: bryanw@netcom.COM
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
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Date: 14 Aug 91 15:49:09 GMT
From: brunix!brownvm.brown.edu!mjv@uunet.uu.net (Marshall Vale)
Subject: SOLD: ComputerEyes & StereoTek glasses
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Thanks for everyone's enquiries but both of the items have been sold.
Marshall
*******************************************************************
-> Internet: mjv@brownvm.brown.edu
Failed _Brave New Words_ slogans #8:
"We've never heard of you either."
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Date: 13 Aug 91 08:50:26 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nic.funet.fi!lahtinen@uunet.uu.net (Kimmo
Lahtinen)
Subject: Unix for TT ???
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I noticed some time ago a question about the availability of TT Unix,
but did not see any answers. I have seen even a price for it, but
can you really buy it somewhere?
By the way am I correct that it is based on Mach kernel?
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Kimmo Lahtinen E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi or
Finnish Meteorological Institute kimmo@field.fi
Phone : +358 0 758 1322
Possessed by a Spirit G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396
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Date: 14 Aug 91 00:51:07 GMT
From: kodak!ispd-newsserver!psinntp!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@cs.rochester.edu
(Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Using the ST with a Deskjet
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
If I were to get a Deskjet, would I be able to find drivers
for ST programs like WordUp, 1stWord, WordPerfect?
How about Spectre? Is there a way to use the Deskjet with
Spectre in Mac mode? (does Epstart work? ...I guess that might
depend on whether the Deskjet emulates Epsons)
Finally, what about ATSpeed? Anybody know?
Thanks very much.
-Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
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Date: 14 Aug 91 07:27:13 GMT
From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud)
Subject: Version
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
OK, check the cookie jar for machine cookie...
How do I knw if it's a STE or a MEGA STE (with 16 MHz card) ?
My developer docs say nothing about the MEGA STE at all, nothing about new
cookies, nothing about speed-switching etc, and no update has arrived.
Lars-Erik / Registered Developer / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______
0sterud / w/ Atari Scandinavia / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ /
__________/ _______________________/ ______________________/ ____/ /
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