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Info-Atari16 Digest Vol. 90 Issue 177

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INFO-ATARI16 Digest Fri, 9 Feb 90 Volume 90 : Issue 177

Today's Topics:
Abaq: Or should it be ATW.
FTP'ing files
GNU-Emacs 18.55, reported problems (and solutions)
GNU-Emacs 18.55, timeout problems
Hard Disk Defragger
Review of Sozobon C
TOS 1.4 UK Version
WORD4.ARC shareware program
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Date: 8 Feb 90 12:59:50 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!newcastle.ac.uk!turing!q1cbw@uunet.uu.net (D.C. Halliday)
Subject: Abaq: Or should it be ATW.
Message-ID: <1990Feb8.125950.21625@newcastle.ac.uk>

I have missed the discussion on Abaq whatever that is but if it is the
ATW (Atari transputer workstation) Then they do exist. We here in
Newcastle University (UK) have a few. These systems where perchased
either from ATARI UK or PERIHELION. These systems are being used for a
major research project into fault tolerent distributed computing
(ARJUNA).

Dave H.

(D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk)

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Date: 8 Feb 90 16:13:50 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!gould!zmacu06@uunet.uu.net (F S Taylor)
Subject: FTP'ing files
Message-ID: <ZMACU06.90Feb8161351@tsun10.doc.ic.ac.uk>

In article <9002070806.AA13282@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> S54394GR@ETSUACAD.BITNET
(Robert Gambs) writes:

> I am new to the FTP system and was wondering if someone could give me some
> help. All the files I have tried to download have gone bad. when I try to
> unARC them, they give me a 'bad header' error. Can someone with experience
> in this area help me?

Well, when a file is ARCed it turns it from whatever format it was in
into binary format (ie. requiring all 8 bits in a byte). ftp, by
default, transfers ASCII which is only 7 bit data and it will do
conversions on things like 'end of line' characters etc. To stop it
doing all this you need to type:

ftp> binary

at the ftp prompt. This allows any kind of data to get through without
change.

I hope this works for you.

> Thanks,

Thats ok,

> Robert Gambs
> (S54394GR at ETSUACAD)

Frank.

| Frank Taylor - HADES Group - DoC - Imperial College - London |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| JANET Mail : zmacu06@doc.ic.ac.uk |

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Date: 8 Feb 90 20:40:03 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!sbsvax!roeder@uunet.uu.net (Edgar Roeder)
Subject: GNU-Emacs 18.55, reported problems (and solutions)
Message-ID: <2688@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de>

Now that GNU-Emacs 18.55 has finally appeared on comp.binaries.atari.st, I
think it's time to summarize some of the problems people had with the
installation.

1. missing termcap file

Although mentioned in the README, the /etc/termcap-file was missing
in the distribution. Sorry about that. I have posted a sample time
some time ago here in comp.sys.atari.st.

2. "termcap file not found"

Emacs looks for the termcap file as "\etc\termcap" (this means in the
directory termcap on the same drive where emacs was started) or it
looks at the place specified in the environment var TERMCAP. But it
expects the filename in unix-syntax.
A value of "\emacs\misc\termcap" IS WRONG (uses \ instead of /).
A value of "E:/lib/emacs/termcap.em" IS WRONG (uses E: for a drive
instead of /dev/E as suggested in README).
A value of "/dev/E/emacs/stuff/termcap" IS OK.

3. "terminal cannot position cursor"

Then you have possibly edited the file or used ascii-file transfer.
The file contains ~M at the end of the lines. For emacs, ~M is just a
char like any other. So the backslash intended to mask the end-of-line
in continuation lines only masks the carriage-return. The next ~J
(end-of-line) will end the current entry.
If you see no way to remove the carriage-returns, you can at least
concatenate all lines of an entry (until you can edit them with emacs).

4. incorrect display, missing characters

There was a bug in the stdio-library used to compile emacs. Therefore
you cannot use ~J for the 'do'-capability (cursor-down). Please use
'do=\EB' instead.

5. temacs complains about missing files with dashes in their names

This is a problem of some zoo-versions. For example the zoo compiled
with Turbo-C (and posted in comp.binaries.atari.st) converts '-' in
filenames to '_'. You have to rename the files (or use another zoo).

6. temacs is unable to find any lisp file

Temacs will not look in the current directory for lisp files until it
is dumped. It searches them in "../lisp". So please move the files
into a directory named lisp.

7. dumpfix says that the two xemacs versions have the same basepage

As mentioned in dumping.txt, you should create the dumps at DIFFERENT
LOCATIONS IN RAM. You can achieve this by adding another accessory or
calling a second shell.

8. what are the correct answers to dumpfix' questions ?

I don't know. If you get a problem with the dumped emacs and are not
sure wether this can be related to "incorrect answers" to the questions
of dumpfix, you can always try to reproduce the problem with the
initialized, but not dumped temacs (call "temacs -l loadup.el"). If
the problem is not there, you can for example switch the two first
parameters to dumpfix and try again.

9. emacs gets a bus-error (address-error, ...) after the initial screen

See my previous posting about the timeout-problem. Don't apply the
binary patches posted here some weeks ago. The problem was not so
easy than i thought after a first look (:-().

10. how can i swap the meanings of Backspace/Delete ?

Please see the regular discussions in comp.emacs and gnu.emacs on
this topic. The documentation for global-set-key might also help you
(press Help f global-set-key Return).

I think this should be enough for today. If you have more questions (but please
not "can you mail me parts xx-yy?" :-)), you can always send mail.

- Edgar
--

Mail: Edgar R\"oder E-Mail: roeder@cs.uni-sb.de
Liesbet-Dill-Stra\ss e 3
D-6602 Dudweiler -o- -o-
W-Germany ~
Phone: 06897/74643 '---'

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Date: 8 Feb 90 18:14:14 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!sbsvax!roeder@uunet.uu.net (Edgar Roeder)
Subject: GNU-Emacs 18.55, timeout problems
Message-ID: <2683@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de>

Some weeks ago, before emacs came out on comp.binaries.atari.st, i posted a
binary patch for temacs. This patch seems to change the probability of the
bug, which should be fixed from 1:100 to 50:100 (:-(). More and more people
tell me that they have problems with this patch (system crashes after the
timeout for the startup-screen). The correct solution for this problem can't
be done with a simple binary patch (the program size will increase more than
a few bytes).
So please forget about this patch!

The original bug will probably never hit you anyway.

- Edgar
--

Mail: Edgar R\"oder E-Mail: roeder@cs.uni-sb.de
Liesbet-Dill-Stra\ss e 3
D-6602 Dudweiler -o- -o-
W-Germany ~
Phone: 06897/74643 '---'

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Date: 7 Feb 90 21:22:35 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!reading!rosemary!adp1@uunet.uu.net (Andrew Pollard)
Subject: Hard Disk Defragger
Message-ID: <2045@onion.reading.ac.uk>

Hello,
I would like to know if there is a Public Domain Hard Disk Defragger available
for the ST. If so, from where can it be obtained?
Reply by an article, or email me.....

Thanks, Andrew.

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adp1@uk.ac.reading.cs.rosemary
Andrew.Pollard@uk.ac.reading
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Date: 8 Feb 90 14:05:29 GMT
From:
mcsun!ukc!axion!masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk!beta.its.bt.co.uk!jvt@uunet.uu.net
(John Trickey)
Subject: Review of Sozobon C
Message-ID: <$D6V0=@masalla.fulcrum.bt.co.uk>

In article <521.25cd965f@ccvax.ucd.ie> Padraig writes:
>
> ....... Well this months issue of
>ST World ( the UK mag ) carries a review of both Sozobon and Mark Johnson C.

Well there's even more fame on its way. Another mag (ST Format) has just
started a series on C programming and is using the Sozobon implementation
as its reference. No guesses for the number of punters who will be raiding
their pd libraries for a copy.


--

John Trickey British Telecom IT Systems.
jvt@its.bt.co.uk ..!mcsun!ukc!axion!its
G4REV @ GB7SUT Voice: +44 21 333 3369

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 02:08:30 PST
From: "Matthias Heiden, Advanced System Process Development 09-Feb-1990 1107"
<HEIDEN@KBOMFG.enet.dec.com>
Subject: TOS 1.4 UK Version
Message-ID: <9002091008.AA17166@decwrl.dec.com>

In article <4336@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>, eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!
neil@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Neil Forsyth) writes:

> Well I now have TOS 1.4 ("Great! Perhaps he'll stop moaning now"),
> I actually had to send Atari UK the blank EPROMs to get it which I guess
> beats anyone elses sob story. Do you think if I send them some chips and
> solder they could make me a TT :-)

Which address did you send your EPROMs to ? Can only registered
developers use this service ? Matthias Heiden



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Date: 8 Feb 90 17:17:35 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham Thomas)
Subject: WORD4.ARC shareware program
Message-ID: <2143@syma.sussex.ac.uk>

In ZNET mag recently I saw that a shareware (or possibly PD) program
called WORD4 was available. This turns WordPerfect 5 (IBM) files into a
format which WordPerfect 4.1 (ST) can handle. We can make use of such a
program, so could someone please mail it to me? (Best send a short
message first asking if someone else has already sent it.) Within
reason, I'd be prepared to mail it on to others. Arc/Lharc/Zoo +
uuencode is fine.

Also, if anyone has got the new NeoDesk trashcan accessory, I'd like to
get that too. (Yes, I do have a legit. copy of NeoDesk 2.05)

Thanks,

Graham


--
Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK
JANET: grahamt@uk.ac.sussex.syma EARN/BITNET: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk
ARPA: grahamt%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
UUCP: grahamt@syma.uucp Phone: +44 273 686758

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