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Info-Atari16 Digest Sat, 13 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 207
Today's Topics:
1.2 GB drive deal
2 things
720 + 360 == 2* 360 ??
Atari for Auction: Update
ATARI SOFTWARE 4 SALE
Fearn & Music, Nec P20 driver, any sights?
GDOS/TT/TTM195 !!help!!
Graphics on the STE - v. generally speaking...
Help me! My SM124 (ST monochrome monitor) died like so many lately
Laser Screen Dump
LZH problem
M-Tools, where to ftp from?
Oxygen
PgC 7600 details
Re: Z*Net International
rufus
SF314 Drive 4 Sale
Where can I find educationial software for the Atari ST
Where to get FATSPEED ?
Why does GDOS slow down midi output?
Z*Net International (2 msgs)
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 11:52:39 CDT
From: Mike Dorman <MDORMAN1@UA1VM.ua.edu>
Subject: 1.2 GB drive deal
To: Atari List <Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
Although I'm not sure, I believe that the current (5.2.0) version of the ICD
utilities for hard disks could give you 1 autobooting partition from this
drive, if you wanted it. Of course, your logical sector size would be huge,
probably 8K or so, but you could do it. If you want to stick to several
smaller partitions, say, 64MB, you could get away with 1K virtual sectors.
In the end, yes, ICD can support this drive, quite handily. The one caveat to
that is that as soon as you start in with a large-partition (>32MB under 1.4),
you have immediately resigned yourself to using a *very* short list of
utilities...most don't know how to deal with virtual sectors, and probably
will never be updated to do so. ICDs Cleanup works, obviously, but I think
that's it, and that doesn't even do defragmentation, it merely finds (and marks
or corrects) errors. I think Hard Disk Sentry from, oh Hell, I can't remember
his name...the guys who do MT-C Shell, will work, but I'm not sure.
Hope this helps.
Mike.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 11:43:08 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!unidui!un
ido!rwthinf!cip-s08!wolfram@arizona.edu (Wolfram Roesler)
Subject: 2 things
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
koagouro@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Konstantinos Agouros) writes:
>First: Could somebody please tell me the ip# of atari.archive cause I can't get
>through by the name.
Are your sure it's available at your site?
>Second:
>I read once that there should be such thing like a csh for the ST. Could
anybody
>tell me, if that is true and if where to get it?
There are many shells working in the way the csh does. One of then is Gulam.
I dont know about an implementation of the original csh to the Atari, but
one of the other shells should do.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 12:21:29 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ccut!wnoc-tyo-news!toum
on!wucc!ytsuji@arizona.edu (Y.Tsuji)
Subject: 720 + 360 == 2* 360 ??
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
You must have forgotten to wire a line (#32 side one select).
For further questions, e-mail to ytsuji@jpnwas00.BITNET
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Date: 10 Apr 91 02:44:51 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!ucsd!hub.ucsb.edu!ucsbuxa!6600hien@arizona
.edu (Hien Le)
Subject: Atari for Auction: Update
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <409@platypus.uofs.edu> meo3@jaguar.ucs.uofs.edu (OGRINZ MICHAEL E)
writes:
[Text deleted]
My bid for a hard drive is $50.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 13:41:01 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!olivea!bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!delta@arizo
na.edu (peter tragakis)
Subject: ATARI SOFTWARE 4 SALE
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
For sale:
Wordperfect $70
Timeworks Publisher $60
or best offer.
$100/bo for all
call Peter at (617) 731-5088 or
e-mail this account.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 12:51:42 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!gatech!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!fuug!funic!santra!saha.hut.fi!s
37837k@arizona.edu (Jari Lehto)
Subject: Fearn & Music, Nec P20 driver, any sights?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Hi all netters, Germans especially!
First: All you from Germany, have anyone of you had any contact to
Fearn & Music lately, or have you heard anything about them?
I have been waiting 2 weeks to get a reply to my fax, and I have
already re-sent it too...
I am trying to make an order for Uni-Man and T-Script, if someone
knows any other source for them, please tell!
Second: Has anyone of you tried to make a contact to OMEGA Computer Systeme,
the maker of Delta Modul?
Any success? (other than a mailed brochure of Delta Modul)
Third: Afriend of mine wants to use Nec P20 with Spectre, so a Mac-driver
for it would be highly appreciated.
About this you can email also to hv@uwasa.fi
Fourth: If you have any experiences of using the combination Spectre &
UltraScript, for example in a form of short instructions, I would
highly appreciate that too!
Either there is a unknown command & flushing...
or it processes the file right thru, but nothing comes out from
the SLM 804. Test-files come out well, except the scrambled bottom
line...
Jartsu
*** Jari Lehto, jartsu@otax.hut.fi, s37837k@saha.hut.fi ***
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Date: 12 Apr 91 23:09:13 GMT
From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!samsung!know!login@arizona.edu
Subject: GDOS/TT/TTM195 !!help!!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Up to today, I have been using an Atari TT with a PTC1426 colour monitor.
Today, I switched to a TTM195 monochrome monitor and since I made the
switch I have been unable to use GDOS. I was using an assign.sys per Ron
Grant's instructions (with the PTC) and had no problems. So far, I have
been unable to write an assign.sys file that will not bomb my TT now that I
have the TTM monitor. Question, has anyone been able to use GDOS 1.1 with a
TT/TTM195 combination? If so, just what the heck is needed in the
assign.sys file? Can the assign.sys file be mailed to me or posted on the
net PLEASE.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 06:10:12 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!spool.mu.edu!n
ews.nd.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!ns!ns!logajan@arizona.edu
(John Logajan)
Subject: Graphics on the STE - v. generally speaking...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1039@stewart.UUCP> jerry@stewart.UUCP (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>VGA simply has 6 bits per primary color, for
>a total of (2~6)~3 = 262,144 colors, with 256 palette entries. No tricks,
>no horizontal-sync interrupts, none of that crazy stuff. On a monochrome
>monitor, you get 64 levels of gray.
Perhaps there is more than one way to VGA. I do know that there are
palette chips for sale that include a 256 entry table and three built
in DAC's (digital to analog converters). I forget if they had 5 or 6 bits
per color though. 5 per would fit in two bytes while 6 per would need three
bytes.
Oh, and the palette chips claim to be VGA compatible.
--
- John Logajan @ Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
- logajan@ns.network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853
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Date: 12 Apr 91 06:59:25 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!natinst!uudell!fquest!mspacek@arizona.edu (Mark
Spacek)
Subject: Help me! My SM124 (ST monochrome monitor) died like so many lately
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Well, I've seen a thread of messages about monochrome monitor
problems lately, but pretty much ignored it. After all, it could never
happen to me! Right, well it did happen to me. The other night it had
been on for a while... I was online with a BBS and all of a sudden I
thought the characters were starting to look funny, like they were
slanting just a bit and getting thinner. Well, just a moment or two
later the screen went dark and the green power light were dark also.
When I turned the system off I could still hear a humming from the
monitor, the power supply I suppose. I then cut it off to be safe.
I opened it up and checked the fuse. It was blown. I really didn't
expect it to be that simple, but thought it was worth a shot. I went to
Radio Shack and bought a couple new fuses of the same rating. I thought
I might have gotten lucky because it seemed to work fine after I replaced
the fuse and put it back together. But after a little more than 30
minutes elapsed, it happened again. This time I was looking at the right
side of the screen when it occured and the letter were definitely getting
VERY thin right before it happened. Once again, it was only a moment or
two after I noticed the character distortion until it went out. Anyway,
I'm hoping to get some help in diagnosing the problem since there isn't
much in the way of local dealer support. Oh, I thought both times that
the monitor felt hotter than it should have right after the fuse blew. I
would also welcome advice on what I could do if I can't fix it. Like
good places to send stuff like that to be repaired (if there is such a
place, not around here anyway), or what Atari Corp's exchange program
pricing is currently. If anyway has had a posted for help with a similar
sounding problem, I would sure love to hear what happened to them and
possibly a recap of the help they got. I guess mail it would be best to
mail anything to me, unless you think others would find the info
interesting or helpful. I know I should have been reading the posts that
have been on here lately and may well have already known the problem if I
had, but well, I didn't. So, any help will be greatly appreciated. I
really like my mono monitor and miss it greatly. I'm quite used to it
and want it back pretty bad. SOMEBODY HEP ME PLEASE!!! Heh...
Thanks in advance from a SM124 addict suffering from withdrawal symptoms.
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1991 19:02 PDT
From: MHD@PCR.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Laser Screen Dump
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Kelly Larson, kellyl@hpgrer.com.hp, requested a screen dump program for
an HP laser printer.
I have just uploaded, to atari.archive.umich.edu, a collection of
utilities for the HP DeskJet printer. The file is called hputils.arc.
Most of these utilities are also also work with the LaserJet printer and
the screen dump utilities are:
HPDUMP\HPCOLDMP.PRG for color monitor ?
HPMN2DMP.PRG landscape orientation
HPMONDMP.PRG portrait orientation
P_OR_SAV\HP_RSAVE.PRG for HP printers
HP_R_SET.PRG sets the program shown above
P_ORSAVE.TXT docs
P_R_SAVE.PRG for dot matrix printers
P_R_SSET.PRG sets the program shown above
This latter set of programs will also save the screen in Degas .PI%
format.
Martin Donald
Bitnet MHD@SLACPCR
DECnet PCR::MHD (44.37 = 45093)
Internet MHD@PCR.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
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Date: 12 Apr 91 17:45:26 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com
!tandem!netcom!rcb@arizona.edu (Roy Bixler)
Subject: LZH problem
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <1991Apr10.161750.4869@milton.u.washington.edu>
alexd@milton.u.washington.edu (Alex Danilchik) writes:
>Ocassionally i come across a file that un-lharcing
>with the arcsh35.prg yields "no file found"..
>un-lharcing in gulam yields the same error..
I've had this problem with the Unix lharc.
>
>Could somone diagnose the problem?
The problem was that, if am trying to un-lharc a file 'foo.lzh', but I
have another file called 'foo' also, 'lharc' will not find 'foo.lzh'
unless I specify it as exactly 'foo.lzh'. If I just say
lharc x foo
it will report a bad lharc file (once again, in the Unix version).
This bit me because I have a habit of calling my uuencoded files 'foo'
and when 'foo' is uudecoded, the scenario above appears.
>
>Thanks
>
>gunnar
>alexd@milton.u.washington.edu
--
Roy Bixler
rcb@netcom.com -or- (UUCP) uunet!apple!netcom!rcb
"Just when you think you know it all, it changes!"
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Date: 12 Apr 91 15:50:56 GMT
From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid)
Subject: M-Tools, where to ftp from?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <RALPH.91Apr11115422@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
writes:
>In article <3174@laura.UUCP> klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer
Klute) writes:
>|
>| Mtools can be ftp'ed from cerl.cecer.army.mil (129.229.1.101).
>
>But watch out! Their ftp is a bit flakey. Watch out for truncated
>files.
>--
I'd like to ftp this prg, but don't know how to find the time-zome for a
mil site, could someone tell me what it is so I don't get busted calling
during business hours.
Stephan
--
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu Stephan R. Cleaves
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Date: 12 Apr 91 13:48:03 GMT
From: noao!ncar!gatech!taco!eos.ncsu.edu!sagemma@arizona.edu (STEVEN ANTHONY
GEMMA)
Subject: Oxygen
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I just got Oxygen from atari.archive, but when I try to
run it, it doesn't work. I have a 520STfm upgraded to
1 Meg. I can't run the program out of an auto folder
since only drive B is double-sided. When I execute the
program it tells me it's reading in 650k worth of data
and then instantly says that I need a 1 Meg ST. Then it
brings me to a title screen and sits there. I've double-
checked my memory and it says that all 1024k are available.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
-Steve
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Date: 12 Apr 91 23:51:29 GMT
From: ucla-se!turing!plinio@locus.ucla.edu (Plinio Barbeito)
Subject: PgC 7600 details
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
In article <12430@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> kiki@uhunix1.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes:
>
>The following information is from the international edition of BYTE magazine's
>March '91 issue. Back issues are available by calling BYTE at (603) 924-9281.
>
[...some parts of excerpt deleted...]
>
>It does have its advantages: it is faster than MOS and scales down better to
>submicron sizes. Also, because it is current-switching rather than voltage-
>switching, it can drive low-impedance loads like CPU pins faster than MOS can,
>bringing benefits in better CPU-memory bandwidth. PgC skirts the power con-
>sumption problem by reducing a logic transition to 0.25 volt instead of the
>standard TTL 5 volt, which reduces the energy dissipation by a factor of 400.
Sounds good, but does this mean that standard RAM chips will be
incompatible with the bipolar version of the PgC? I hope this is not
true of the other version, at least.
>----------------------------[end of excerpt]-----------------------------------
>
>For $20, this thing sounds potent, especially in combination with the Taos OS.
Pretty amazing stuff. This thing uses tricks to get seemingly impossible
cycle times from normal RAM chips. The possibility that an inexpensive
system could be built from this fast part is then far more likely. Seeing
the details also lends the product a bit more credence.
>I think Atari might be in a better position to deliver and support a marketable
>product based on the PgC chips, because of their experience with the Inmos
>transputer and Helios OS, which culminated in the ATW computer.
I'm confident of Atari's ability to create excellent hardware, and
even software, but seeking them out for the strength of their marketing
of the ATW sounds funny somewhere :-). As far as predicting what they
will do, sometimes it's easier to disbelieve their representatives about
this than to believe them. For example, if Leonard says that Atari will
never use the '040, what would this imply to you:
1) that they will use SPARC, MIPS or PgC, etc. in their next machine
and port TOS/GEM to it.
2) they are simply going to discontinue the ST/TT line.
3) they are going to use the 040 anyway but don't want to tell you now
so you won't put off buying a TT.
Thanks for posting an interesting article that a lot of us would
not ordinarily have access to. We may never see an Atari product out
of this, but at least you have helped to establish the PgC as a credible
option ($20 for 160MIPS still sounds a bit off the far end, though).
plin
--
----- ---- --- -- ------ ---- --- -- - - - plinio@seas.ucla.edu
Is this the TV news? I thought I was watching a soap opera!
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Date: 12 Apr 91 22:16:38 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!news.c
s.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!thelake!steve@arizona.edu (Steve
Yelvington)
Subject: Re: Z*Net International
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
[In article <1991Apr13.000851.12481@kcbbs.gen.nz>,
Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes ... ]
> Do you the readers of this news group want to ZNET International posted
> to here. It is on average about 40k in length and would be posted weekly
> from this site. I will need a majority desision on this please. All
> votes to - Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz
Thanks for the offer, Jon, but please do NOT. This has been discussed at
length in the past. Let's not get into a lengthy discussion of it again --
it's just inappropriate for comp.sys.atari.st.
There is a mailing list for distributing the ZNET magazine to people who
want it. I think details are posted in the monthly Frequently Asked
Questions file. I assume you have read it.
I'm not against the magazine -- I happen to be on the zmagazine mailing
list myself -- but please, not in a Usenet newsgroup.
----
Steve Yelvington, Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota, USA / steve@thelake.mn.org
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Date: 12 Apr 91 11:37:29 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!unidui!un
ido!rwthinf!cip-s08!wolfram@arizona.edu (Wolfram Roesler)
Subject: rufus
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
chuck@mrcnext.uiuc.edu (charles bridgeland) writes:
>[with the] internal Xmodem or Ymodem, it does a disk access every kilobyte.
>Needless to say, this is not good. Is there a way around this, or are
>you pretty much expected to use the external Zmodem that is provided?
Using ZModem is highly recommended. My version of rz only accesses the disk
at the end of the file, meaning that it receives the file into memory and
then saves it after EOT.
I have never tried the internal X/YModem. The external ZModem is much better,
also because it starts automatically.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 23:39:07 GMT
From:
arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.colu
mbia.edu!emory!hubcap!stmwang@arizona.edu (Sam Wang)
Subject: SF314 Drive 4 Sale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Atari External Drive SF314 in exc condition - $100 + postage
DeskJet Font Cartridge TimesRoman 22706P - $ 50 + "
DeskJet Epson Cartridge - $ 35 + "
803/654-5456 (SC) Evenings
--
Sam Wang Visual Arts Clemson University stmwang@hubcap.clemson.edu
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Date: 12 Apr 91 16:52:47 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wuarchive!rex!uflorida!winnie!zach.fit.edu!rcs
91900@arizona.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham)
Subject: Where can I find educationial software for the Atari ST
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Does anybody know any sites where they have educationial software for the
ATARI ST ??
Thanks a lot for you help !!!
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Date: 11 Apr 91 10:31:23 GMT
From:
noao!ncar!gatech!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!ahds!dick@arizona.e
du (Dick Heijne CCS/TS)
Subject: Where to get FATSPEED ?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Lots of replies on a previous posting in this group, concerning problems
I have with my megafile 44 harddisk pointed out that I have to migrate
from TOS 1.2 to TOS 1.4, or use FATSPEED.PRG instead.
Since I prefer trying the latter option first, I would like to know where
I can get this program.
Someone mailed me it should be on some usenet-accessible board.
Can anyone mail me details about the full path (and type of info-server,
if appropriate) ?
Thanks a lot in advance everybody!
Dick.
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Date: 11 Apr 91 07:46:49 GMT
From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!ahds!geert@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
(Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS)
Subject: Why does GDOS slow down midi output?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
I recently installed a program that uses GDOS or
AMCGDOS. When I did this, some of my midi programs are slowing
down there output to my midi instruments.
I think that only midi programs, that are using
atari's midi out TOS call (as i remember it Midiws() ), are
slowing down there output.
Is this because there are some additional functions added by
GDOS/ AMCGDOS and the ST must search into a table to lookup
some routines, also the ones in the ROMS?
If this is the clue, why can't GDOS bypass the default routines
,which are normally in ROM, immediately and uses the GDOS
functions afterward? It seems to me that GDOS first looks
if there is a GDOS function called and then passes to the
default ROM functions if a not GDOS call is called.
Is there a GDOS version available, which hasn't this problem?
Any suggestions out there?
Thanks in advance.
Geert.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Geert W.T. Jonkheer
Albert Heyn B.V. Zaandam (NL). UUCP: ..!hp4nl!ahds!geert
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Date: 13 Apr 91 00:08:51 GMT
From:
noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive
!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!marcamd!mercury!kcbbs!kc@arizona.
edu (Jon Clarke)
Subject: Z*Net International
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Users wishing to contact Z*NET International on-line magazine please
feel free to drop mail to me and I will forward it to the right department.
Email to : Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz Z*Net International NZ
-----------------------------------
First request :
___________________________________
Do you the readers of this news group want to ZNET International posted
to here. It is on average about 40k in length and would be posted weekly
from this site. I will need a majority desision on this please. All
votes to - Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz
What is Z*NET INTERNATIONAL. The most up-to-date on-line magazne dealing
with Atari computers. You may have seen many of the articles on the
net over the last few years quoted from "ZNET or ZMag". Up till now
ZNET has not posted directly to net . rather it has been available on
ANON FTP and other bbs's and onine services world wide.
Thanks for your time.
- Jon_Clarke@kcbbs.gen.nz Z*Net International On-Line Magazine.
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Date: 12 Apr 91 21:55:51 GMT
From: argosy!henry@decwrl.dec.com (Henry Polard)
Subject: Z*Net International
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
YES! Please post Z*Net here.
Henry Polard | REAL net address: | Reality / Virtual 17-line .sig
(408) 736-3300 | henry@maspar.com | is an allusion. \ with spiffy graphics.
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