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INFO-ATARI16 Digest Thu, 5 Apr 90 Volume 90 : Issue 412
Today's Topics:
Amiga/Atari help (4 msgs)
Does TOS 1.4 fix 1k sector reads?
ICON language
Looking for software to drive a tape drive...
Upgrading Mega 2 to Mega 4
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Date: 5 Apr 90 19:23:55 GMT
From: haven!uvaarpa!murdoch!astsun7.astro.Virginia.EDU!gl8f@louie.udel.edu
(Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Amiga/Atari help
Message-ID: <1990Apr5.192355.971@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
In article <27571@ut-emx.UUCP> lshaw@walt.cc.utexas.edu (logan shaw) writes:
>In article <1990Apr4.235543.24355@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> cs325ec@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(Gregory Lemperle-Kerr) writes:
>>
>> Just wondering why all these lame Amiga users are posting and not
>> many Atari users...
>
>Perhaps because this is comp.sys.amiga? Oh, and I'm glad to know that by
>virtue of the fact that I use an Amiga I am lame.
WARNING: The articles in this thread, so far, have been cross-posted
between both groups. We haven't had a stupid Amiga/Atari flame war in
nearly 2 years now... and here we go again.
PLEASE: DO NOT POST INTO A GROUP YOU DO NOT READ. Just because some
other idiot cross-posted and got some details wrong does not mean you
have to correct him in public. Send EMAIL. Do not continue the flame
war.
Thank you.
p.s. not trying to flame you personally, Logan, just trying to pass on
a general suggestion.
Greg Lindahl
gl8f@virginia.edu I gave my lunch for space-sickness research.
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Date: 5 Apr 90 19:52:28 GMT
From: mailrus!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs325ec@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Gregory
Lemperle-Kerr)
Subject: Amiga/Atari help
Message-ID: <1990Apr5.195228.8508@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Hey, sorry Amiga users... I think one of the problems here is that
some of us (stupid unix users), didn't realize that since the first
message is crossposted, using f to followup or whatever also cross
posts your response.
Let's quit, the guy just wanted to get a computer, e-mail him.
(I know, I started some of it...)
- Greg
P.S. Thanks for the 80+ messages in my mailbox, makes me feel wanted.
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Date: 5 Apr 90 19:11:57 GMT
From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!es1@rutgers.edu (Ethan
Solomita)
Subject: Amiga/Atari help
Message-ID: <1990Apr5.191157.7522@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
In article <40345@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>, jkain@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey
Kain) writes:
One other consideration you should have in choosing which
computer to buy: which one is selling? The Amiga is selling very well,
and sales are only increasing. Atari has had to continuously drop
their prices to make their machines sell. Yes, you'll get a cheaper
machine, but IMHO at least it won't be well supported a year from now.
Maybe the STacy and the TTs (whenever they come out) will change
things, but I doubt it.
-- Ethan
Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
"If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'"
-- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
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Date: 5 Apr 90 20:37:16 GMT
From: millert@boulder.colorado.edu (MILLER TODD C)
Subject: Amiga/Atari help
Message-ID: <19315@boulder.Colorado.EDU>
In article <1990Apr4.235543.24355@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> cs325ec@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(Gregory Lemperle-Kerr) writes:
>
>
> There is another hardware mod from Germany for the atari that allows
> the monochrome monitor to work in the colour resolutions using
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> grey scales.
>
> Insight: You had a Mac... you'll probably get an Amiga except...
> You ditched a Mac... you should get an Atari ST.
>
> -- Greg
Does anyone know any more about this? ie difficulty and where to get the docs
on it? Since there aren't any software emulators that are fast enough to be
usable, this could be the answer to my prayers.
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Todd Miller - millert@tramp.Colorado.EDU |
| Meet the new boss, just the same as old boss - The Who |
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Date: 5 Apr 90 14:45:53 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!quando!hintz@uunet.uu.net (Stefan Hintz)
Subject: Does TOS 1.4 fix 1k sector reads?
Message-ID: <1414@quando.UUCP>
In article <16000035@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> cs325ec@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>
> Does Rwabs work with 1K sectors in TOS 1.4? I tried to dump
> sectors from a hard disk partition with 1K sectors and found
> that Rwabs (TOS 1.0) only reads 512 bytes from the sector i.e.
> acts as if there were 512 byte sectors. However files stored
> on the partition work fine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- Greg
Yes it works with TOS 1.4 !
I use AHDI 3.01 with one MEGAFILE44 with one extra buildin 105MByte SCSI Hard-
Disk. My MEGAFILE-Cardridges are formatted with four Partitions 11-11-11-11.
(512 Bytes per Sector).
The 105MByte Disk is partitioned 27-26-26-26 (1024 Bytes per Sector).
Please use Getbpb() before Rwabs() !!!
--
Stefan Hintz, Dortmund, West Germany
hintz@quando.quantum.de
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Date: 5 Apr 90 09:07:50 GMT
From: ncrlnk!ncrwic!wsuiar!mwjester@uunet.uu.net (Max Jester)
Subject: ICON language
Message-ID: <113.261ac496@wsuiar.uucp>
In article <9004040701.AA08862@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, K331672@AEARN.BITNET
(Gerfried Klein) writes:
> Hello |
>
> I have just downloaded the language ICON from a server, but there
> seems to be no documentation about this language. I only know that it is
> a follow up from SNOBOL/4, but that's all.
> Is there somebody out in netland who can point me to some documentation ?
> I would be very happy to get a language description, examples, and so on.
>
> Thanks
> Gerfried
The only docs I know of are found in the book "The Icon Programming Language",
although there was an article in Computer Language in late 86 (by the same
authors - Sorry, I can't recall the spelling just now, but it's the same folks
who put together SNOBOL4....Greenwald? Groenwald? The book should be available
in any University library.
... 5 minutes later ...
Oh! I do have the authors' name here - Ralph E. and Madge T. Griswold; no
wonder I was screwing up the spelling. The book is published by Prentice-
Hall. A pretty good book, paperback so not too expensive - and the language
itself is pretty neat.
Hope this helps.
Max J.
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Date: 5 Apr 90 17:59:49 GMT
From: att!dptg!lzsc!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (HC Johnson)
Subject: Looking for software to drive a tape drive...
Message-ID: <1547@lzsc.ATT.COM>
In article <28526@cup.portal.com>, Xorg@cup.portal.com (Peter Ted Szymonik)
writes:
> That makes three of us! I contacted ICD about the possibility of
> buying their mech and software - and they said - no way, we have to buy
> the entire unit. I see a huge potential market for someone who does
> actually write software so that the ST could use any standard tape
> drive unit - after all, the ICD adaptor is pretty much 100% SCSI and
> their should be no reason why it couldn't handle a standard $250 tape
> drive mech with the right software.
I have written a streaming backup program that talks SCSI to the Adpatec
Streaming Tape interface. The hardware and the program work well for
me.
The next step is to integrated it with Atari's METADOS, if they ever
release it. This would allow access using Fopen, Fread, etc.
This software has been distributed to several people privately.
Send mail, and if the mailers permit I will make it available on a direct
mail basis.
Howard C. Johnson
ATT Bell Labs
att!lzsc!hcj
hcj@lzsc.att.com
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Date: 5 Apr 90 16:37:17 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!quando!hintz@uunet.uu.net (Stefan Hintz)
Subject: Upgrading Mega 2 to Mega 4
Message-ID: <1417@quando.UUCP>
In article <1990Apr4.212147.3676@athena.mit.edu> jdroh@athena.mit.edu (Jae D.
Roh) writes:
>In article <1090@olnl1.UUCP>, paulz@olnl1.UUCP (Paul v.d. Zwan) writes:
>> Has anyone ever tried upgrading a Mega 2 ( late 1987) to 4 MB. ?
>> --
>> # Paul van der Zwan # ?mcvax,uunet,hp4nl?!olnl1!paulz
>Hopefully, you mean 16 more RAM chips, right? Supposedly one can just solder
>16 dip sockets onto the motherboard then fill them up with 1mbit rams, and
>the ST will automatically recognize the additional memory. I have been
>meaning to try this for a while, but haven't gotten around to doing it yet.
>It should work, since the motherboards for the Mega2 and Mega4 are the same.
>If someone who knows more about this sees that I am mistaken in some of the
>above, feel free to correct anything.
>jdroh@athena.mit.edu
I have upgraded my MEGA 2ST to 4MB.
I think it is an good idea to put also a condensator near each RAM between
0 and 5V. The printed-circuit-board is prepared for this.
I also had to add three resistors (33 Ohm).
Those resistors are for the RAS and CAS pins of the second memory bank.
--
Stefan Hintz, Dortmund, West Germany
hintz@quando.quantum.de
--
To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated but not be able to say it.
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